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UUJP Ep 96- Gen Gen. Flynn: The Iran Blackout is the Signal for Internal OverthrowFlynn 1-15-26 · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: Iran just went dark, and almost nobody here is talking
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Speaker 1: about it. I got with the former NSA General Michael Flynn,
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Speaker 1: to ask him exactly what a nationwide blackout in Iran
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Speaker 1: actually signals, and his answer should worry every American. Don't
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Speaker 1: click away, because what he says next explains what could
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Speaker 1: be coming faster than anybody expects. I know that you
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Speaker 1: know people inside places I'll never be in. I'm not
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Speaker 1: asking to give me anything classified, but is there something
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Speaker 1: going on in Iran that we are not seeing the
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Speaker 1: full picture of? Is this uprising really close to possibly
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Speaker 1: toppling this deocracy?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? So, first of all, this a little piece of
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Speaker 2: my background. People typically know me as you know I
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Speaker 2: you know it was formerly of Deia or whatever. But
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Speaker 2: one of the other assignments that I had was I
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Speaker 2: was a senior intelligence officer for what's called the United
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Speaker 2: States Central Command, which is responsible for all of the
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Speaker 2: Middle East and Central Asia, which includes Iran. So on
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Speaker 2: a daily basis, I was intimately involved in, you know,
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Speaker 2: in situation and think everything to do with Iran and
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Speaker 2: my time in Afghanistan and Iraq. Of course, you know
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Speaker 2: I was. I was intimately involved in Iranian operations. So
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of background here in this in
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Speaker 2: this arena, and I've never let my foot off the
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Speaker 2: gas pedal when it comes to staying in the informed right.
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Speaker 2: So I want people to first understand that the Iranian government,
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Speaker 2: the Iranian regime, the Islamic Republic of Iran under the
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Speaker 2: Komane regime, they plan for these types of demonstrations, so
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Speaker 2: they they plan for them, to deal with them, and
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Speaker 2: in some cases they are dealing with them on the ground,
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Speaker 2: so you can see that some of the security forces
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Speaker 2: are fighting back. The other thing that they do when
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Speaker 2: these types of demonstrations occur, because they've they've occurred a
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Speaker 2: lot over the years. There was one, you know, large
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Speaker 2: one during the Obama administration. I think it was I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna guess a little bit if I remember the dates,
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Speaker 2: but you know, back in the back in the mid
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Speaker 2: the mid tour of Obama's two terms, right right where
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Speaker 2: there was a large demonstration. And the other side of
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Speaker 2: what the regime does is is inside of capitals around
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Speaker 2: the world, they plan for uh for putting out information
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Speaker 2: or misinformation. So so there there they are a well
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Speaker 2: oiled machine, a well oiled regime to be able to
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Speaker 2: push back on whatever the messaging is that's coming through
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Speaker 2: other channels, right, that's that's coming through people that are
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Speaker 2: trying to get information out through the you know, the
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Speaker 2: freedom movement that's going on in Iran. Now, from Mike
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Speaker 2: Flynn's perspective, I want to see the people of Iran,
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Speaker 2: you know, I want to see them succeed, because it
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Speaker 2: is clear that there are videos and there are things
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Speaker 2: coming out of there that are showing an uprising. And
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Speaker 2: President Trump obviously has stepped in to this to say,
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Speaker 2: you know that the US is going to continue to
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Speaker 2: support these people. So that's a big deal. So it's
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Speaker 2: not so it's very real what is happening. But the
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Speaker 2: regime also prepares for you for this sort of eventuality,
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Speaker 2: and they prepare for for informing that they are able
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Speaker 2: to inform the rest of the world in a much
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Speaker 2: broader way than the people that are fighting inside of
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Speaker 2: Iran for their own freedom, because they're already they're already
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Speaker 2: in capitals, they're already around them. They're in the United Nations,
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Speaker 2: they're in the European Union, they're in these different organizational structures,
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Speaker 2: not necessarily formally, but they're inside of them. And they're
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Speaker 2: able to keep these people informed because you know, honestly,
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Speaker 2: the Middle East itself, like Cutter, the Saudis and some
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Speaker 2: of the other Shia and Sunni communities, they don't want
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Speaker 2: to see democracy break out in Iran. They don't They
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Speaker 2: don't want that they want because if it does, then
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Speaker 2: then what does that do to a place like Saudi Arabia?
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Speaker 2: What does that do to the people of Qatar? What
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Speaker 2: does that do of the people of of Kuwait and
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Speaker 2: some of these other countries who are under uh dictatorships,
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Speaker 2: monarchs or or you know, some type of Islamic rule. Right,
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Speaker 2: if if Iran turns into a free flowing democracy, that
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Speaker 2: it that it has a great potential to do. That
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Speaker 2: scares the hell out of all these other countries that
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Speaker 2: are there. So I I I do understand that that
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Speaker 2: that there is some that there are some influence operations
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Speaker 2: going on again, you know, into our own government to
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Speaker 2: be able to tell our own government, I know, you
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Speaker 2: don't want to really get involved here, and so we'll
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Speaker 2: see what happens. Because Trump Trump has weighed in the
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Speaker 2: The other thing that that people need to understand is that, uh,
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Speaker 2: the Iraqi government, okay, is pretty much run by the
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Speaker 2: Iranian regime.
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Speaker 1: Which is nuts to me. That's crazy because they fought
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Speaker 1: for eight years. But I get it, they took over
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Speaker 1: when there was a value.
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Speaker 2: They fought for eight years, but and then we got
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Speaker 2: we weighed in for twenty and instead of instead of
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Speaker 2: you know, having somebody, it's really run by by you know,
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Speaker 2: the the al Mahdi, which is the part of the
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Speaker 2: part of the regime over in Iraq. Right, the Shia
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Speaker 2: element is strong, very corrupt, you know, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: it is what it is. I mean, it's just it's undeniable.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not making something up. It's just is what
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Speaker 2: it is. But but the the other country that is
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Speaker 2: very closely tied to Iran is Cutter. So Cutter is
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Speaker 2: you know, just as a data point, Cutter spends the
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Speaker 2: most money of all nations, all of the nations on
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Speaker 2: the planet inside of our education system. They spend close
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Speaker 2: to I think it's six to eight billion dollars a
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Speaker 2: year annually into our universities and and you know, our
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Speaker 2: higher education system. Right, never mind the influence that they
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Speaker 2: have in inside the White House. So so Cutter is
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Speaker 2: a is a cut and frankly, you know, having operated.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that I was at sent Com. The Suncomb
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Speaker 2: Forward Headquarters is in Cutter, and so you know, the
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Speaker 2: the one of the commanders I forget which one, in
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Speaker 2: the last forty eight hours said hey, we've got to
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Speaker 2: get everybody out of there. Oh you know, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you're if you're I mean, Trump has said if
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Speaker 2: you're an American in Iran, which people are gonna go,
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Speaker 2: what why are there Americans in Iran? Because there are
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Speaker 2: for different reasons. It's a you know, a diasper kind
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Speaker 2: of thing. But the but the military families or whatever,
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Speaker 2: or anybody else that's in places like Cutter are now
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Speaker 2: going to have to probably leave the area. I was
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Speaker 2: told within the last two hours that in Israel they
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Speaker 2: are experiencing sirens right now and they're warning everybody within
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Speaker 2: the next twenty four hours that they could be under
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Speaker 2: another attack by Tehran and that the potential for Tel
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Speaker 2: Aviv International Airport to shut down probably probably you know, tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: because it's evening there now, that is very likely. Because
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Speaker 2: there's some friends of mine that are there that are
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Speaker 2: trying to get out. So I got it. I spoke
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Speaker 2: to them, and they're supposed to be there today, they're
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Speaker 2: supposed to be there first thing in the morning, and
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Speaker 2: they're being told that's unlikely. So so the situation in
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Speaker 2: the Middle East right now is so chaotic, and the
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Speaker 2: last thing that we need to be doing, that the
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Speaker 2: United States of America needs to be doing, is we
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Speaker 2: don't need to get involved in another Middle East quagmire.
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Speaker 2: I don't care, you know how. You know what it's
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Speaker 2: going to do to the relationships over there. We're in
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Speaker 2: We're in a bad, bad way. Now. Would I like
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Speaker 2: to see the Iranian regime collapse? Absolutely? You know, who
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Speaker 2: do I? You know, if it's going to happen, Is
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Speaker 2: it going to happen underneath the you know, are the
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Speaker 2: people of Iran brave enough courageous enough to continue to
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Speaker 2: fight on their own to to change the regime out right?
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Speaker 2: That's if it's going to happen in a country, That's
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Speaker 2: the way that I think it should happen. And no,
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Speaker 2: instead of I said, of the United States of America
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Speaker 2: stepping in and conducting a regime change, that never works.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't because there's always that they always harbor hatred
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Speaker 1: toward us because we jumped in and took over their country.
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Speaker 1: I think that I know the Shaw's sun is in
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Speaker 1: the wings and the people there allegedly are chanting his name.
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Speaker 1: But let me ask you something. It's Lieutenant colonel, General,
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant General, I didn't mean to demote you, Lieutenant General
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Speaker 1: Michael T. Flinn going to check him out, General Flynn
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Speaker 1: dot com. It's got a brand new TikTok. Hello, go
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Speaker 1: and check out his TikTok, which is going to be amazing.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gona blowup and go pass mind very quickly.
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Speaker 1: Let's compare and contrast to what you mentioned earlier. Under Obama,
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Speaker 1: there was the opposition leader in Iran won the election
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Speaker 1: and then they started killing people in the streets. They
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Speaker 1: didn't let him take over, and Obama instead of even
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Speaker 1: giving moral support, what he said was, We're not going
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Speaker 1: to meddle in the affairs of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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Speaker 1: Now you've got Trump that you and I both know
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Speaker 1: very well doesn't care what Iran thinks of him, and
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Speaker 1: he's going to say, we morally support you. I agree
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Speaker 1: with you, General, let's not go there and put bots
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Speaker 1: in the ground and militarily take over the country. But
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Speaker 1: is that moral support from this government here and after
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Speaker 1: what they just saw us do in Venezuela, is that
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Speaker 1: enough to the people on the streets of Iran And
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Speaker 1: are there enough factions in the military of Iran to say, yes,
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Speaker 1: we're going to kick these people out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So to kind of break those apart a little bit. First,
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Speaker 2: First of all, there is definitely a freedom movement globally
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Speaker 2: right now, and Venezuela is one of those places where
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to see something there that's going
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Speaker 2: to you know, if based on the plucking out of
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Speaker 2: a of a dictator, this is that what happened in
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Speaker 2: Venezuela and what the US did in Venezuela, and it
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Speaker 2: definitely has impacted on the people of Tehran or the
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Speaker 2: or the people of Iran. And I think that that's
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Speaker 2: clear because you know the connection between the timing of
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Speaker 2: when that happened in Venezuela and all of a sudden
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Speaker 2: we start to see people in the on going Okay,
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Speaker 2: now it's our time, because if they don't take this
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Speaker 2: opportunity with the President Trump in office, you know, you
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Speaker 2: could have a you could have another Obama who actually
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Speaker 2: was very pro the Islamic regime. I mean, he was
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Speaker 2: ready to let him build a nuclear weapon. He gave it,
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Speaker 2: gave him, you know, palets of cash, right, so uh,
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Speaker 2: and he was very pro the regime. So Trump is not.
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Speaker 2: And and Trump is also trying to say to the world, look,
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Speaker 2: you know, let people, let these let these people if
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Speaker 2: they want freedom, give them their freedom. We can't have
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Speaker 2: dictatorships ruling you know, the world, and and and and
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Speaker 2: moving us all towards this one world order, which is
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Speaker 2: essentially what the red you know when we talk about
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Speaker 2: a red green axis, right, or you know, the the
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Speaker 2: the adversarial relationships between the globalists and frankly the nationalists,
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Speaker 2: which is really what it's about. And you know, nationalism
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Speaker 2: is about the belief in your nation, you know, belief
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Speaker 2: and sovereignty, the belief in your rights, you know, the
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Speaker 2: belief in your own way of life, your culture, your government,
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Speaker 2: your society. Whereas the globalists they all want us eat
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Speaker 2: in bugs and living in fifteen minute cities and they're
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Speaker 2: going to control every single aspect of our lives. That's
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Speaker 2: what this is about. And that's sort of the big
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Speaker 2: broad picture. The situation in Iran. It is very unclear
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Speaker 2: if the Iranians are now responding with potentially, you know,
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Speaker 2: firing missiles or doing things. And I said this yesterday
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Speaker 2: pegs that the response by by any adversary these days,
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Speaker 2: but particularly by Iran is no longer just in the region,
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Speaker 2: even though they definitely have a way to impact the region.
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Speaker 2: The response by Iran will be right here in the
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Speaker 2: United States of America. And that's these Palestinian you know, protesters.
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Speaker 2: You know, you've got Hamas, that's in the United States
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Speaker 2: of America. You have elements of his Balla in the
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Speaker 2: States of America. You have elements of Isis in the
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Speaker 2: United States of America. You have you have about three
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand military age Chinese males in the United States.
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Speaker 2: We haven't heard much about, you know, of China and Iran.
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Speaker 2: Russia and Iran are linked closely together. They have longtime
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Speaker 2: relationships about I think it's the numbers. About forty percent
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Speaker 2: of the oil that was flowing out of the Persian
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Speaker 2: Gulf goes to China. About ninety percent of the oil
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Speaker 2: that came out of Venezuela was going to China. So
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Speaker 2: if that has stopped, and if there's disruptions of the
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Speaker 2: flow of oil to China out of the Persian Gulf.
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Speaker 2: That changes the equation dramatically overnight. And now you're going
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Speaker 2: to have the Chinese involved in a different way, because
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Speaker 2: the Chinese are not going to allow themselves to be choked,
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Speaker 2: you know, by not having access to the flow of oil,
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Speaker 2: the flow of energy markets that they have had the
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Speaker 2: benefit of, right, Venezuela and UH and Iran, Iran. Iran
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Speaker 2: has been working inside of Venezuela for decades, for decades
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Speaker 2: and in fact, and we know, there's been exchanges of drugs,
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Speaker 2: there's been exchanges of money, there's been exchanges of weapons,
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Speaker 2: and there's definitely been exchanges of people to be able
13:21
Speaker 2: to do certain things. Intelligence operations inside of our hemisphere,
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Speaker 2: you know, coming out of Venezuela, you know, up into
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Speaker 2: the isthmus of Central America and then up into the
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Speaker 2: United States. They work with the Cubans. I mean, all
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Speaker 2: of this stuff that I'm talking about is all connected.
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Speaker 2: What's happening in Iran, uh, you know, and what's happening
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Speaker 2: in Venezuela are I believe are connected. Now the the
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Speaker 2: Iranian people the best change. It's kind of like our
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Speaker 2: own history, right, the American people got sick and tired
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Speaker 2: of the way the British were treating us, and we
13:55
Speaker 2: threw them out. Right, we had a revolution, so the
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Speaker 2: and that that didn't take you know, too long. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, you can you can say it took a
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Speaker 2: couple of years, or it took maybe it took two
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Speaker 2: hundred years, but it took you know, we wanted the
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Speaker 2: yoke of tyranny off of our next. That's what the
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Speaker 2: people of Iran I think are doing. That's what they're saying.
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Speaker 2: They're saying, we want the yoke of tyranny off of
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Speaker 2: our next. There are enough people, older people in Iran
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Speaker 2: that remember a better life back in the days of
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Speaker 2: the Shah, even though the Shaw is not you know,
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Speaker 2: they weren't perfect. They had the sivak and some other things.
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Speaker 2: And so I mean, I could give you a lesson
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Speaker 2: on the overthrow of the Iranian regime back in the
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Speaker 2: early nineteen fifties by the CIA over a guy named
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Speaker 2: most of That which which brought the Shaw into powers.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we have a long relationship here pegs in
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Speaker 2: the United States of America, in this place where we
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Speaker 2: have screwed it up royally. And what we must not
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Speaker 2: do is we must not pretend like we don't have
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Speaker 2: we're not part of the problem, and we must not
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Speaker 2: act as though we can't be part of the solution.
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Speaker 2: But but that solution, PAGs has got to be very,
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Speaker 2: very thoughtful and very strategic because if all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden we start bombing you know, wherever the eye Atoll
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Speaker 2: is at, or we take him out, you know what's next? Right, Like,
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Speaker 2: what's next? The the easiest thing to do is to
15:23
Speaker 2: capture or kill somebody. We just saw that with Maduo.
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Speaker 2: I mean, as those are complex military operations and it
15:29
Speaker 2: was exquisitely done by our high end special operations forces.
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Speaker 2: But that's we expect that to drop a bomb on
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Speaker 2: somebody's head. You know, if you can find the leader
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Speaker 2: of a of a of a nation or you know,
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Speaker 2: is that what is that what we want to do? Do
15:43
Speaker 2: we want to start bombing you know, the leader of
15:46
Speaker 2: a nation because what happens is that means that President
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Speaker 2: Trump then becomes a target. That does that mean that
15:52
Speaker 2: Zelensky can become a target? Does that mean that Putin
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Speaker 2: or Stearns or Macrone or you know, do you start
15:58
Speaker 2: to go to that level if you take out the
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Speaker 2: leader of a nation? Right? I mean these are the
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Speaker 2: kinds of geopolitical things that have to be considered. So
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Speaker 2: if the people of Iran and they're not going to
16:12
Speaker 2: be able to listen to the pag show, they're just not.
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Speaker 2: I wish they could, yeah, you know, but maybe someday
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Speaker 2: they will. But but but if they and I know
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Speaker 2: that they're hearing certain voices, they are hearing certain voices
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Speaker 2: because there's there is information that is being infiltrated in
16:29
Speaker 2: we still have a quasi, uh Radio Free Europe or
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Speaker 2: Radio Free Asia, you know, Voice of America, there's still quasi.
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Speaker 1: If they if they can hear you, what would you
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Speaker 1: say to them? Because I know people who actually can
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Speaker 1: get messages back to Iran, what would you say to
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Speaker 1: the people of Iran right now?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Here, here's what I would tell people that that
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Speaker 2: when you feel like you have like you've given it
16:54
Speaker 2: everything you've got and man, it's just not working, go
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Speaker 2: a little bit further. Okay, go a little a little
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Speaker 2: bit further because the other side is feeling the pain too,
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Speaker 2: and you just don't know where they're at in terms
17:06
Speaker 2: of their balance, their ability to be able to stay
17:09
Speaker 2: in power. I mean, you know, let's let's think about uh,
17:13
Speaker 2: you know, you think about a George Washington moment, not
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Speaker 2: and not at not at at you know, crossing the Delaware.
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Speaker 2: But a week later, when he had fifty percent of
17:24
Speaker 2: his men that you know took that basically he said,
17:27
Speaker 2: I know, I can't pay you anymore. Any of you
17:30
Speaker 2: want to leave him? Like fifty percent of them left,
17:32
Speaker 2: and he had to fight that, he had to fight
17:33
Speaker 2: the Battle of Trenton. But but one of the things
17:36
Speaker 2: that Washington understood, and this is warfare. Now, Washington understood
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Speaker 2: that his adversaries were also weakened, and he knew that
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Speaker 2: if he just pushed them a little bit more that
17:47
Speaker 2: maybe they would break, and in fact that that they did.
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Speaker 2: And so my message to the Iranian people, to the
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Speaker 2: leaders of this movement is you've got to I know
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Speaker 2: it's tough. You're going to sacrifice, there's going to be
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Speaker 2: there's going to be loss of life, frankly, but if
18:03
Speaker 2: you're going to achieve victory, you're going to have to
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Speaker 2: push one more time, and then one more time, and
18:10
Speaker 2: then one more time because once, once it's said and done,
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Speaker 2: if you don't achieve victory, you're all going to be
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Speaker 2: hung and enjoy our our revolutionary fathers and founding fathers
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Speaker 2: knew that. And they and they and they took that,
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Speaker 2: you know, under under their own council, and they knew it.
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Speaker 2: So the people in Iran they already know this. They
18:31
Speaker 2: know this, and if and if this doesn't work, they're
18:34
Speaker 2: going to start coming after these people hard. And they
18:36
Speaker 2: will line them up in the street and you'll, you
18:38
Speaker 2: will you may or may not see some of these pictures,
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Speaker 2: but they'll hang them all by by street, you know,
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Speaker 2: by the street polls. Uh So, and they'll leave them
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Speaker 2: up for for people to visibly see for a long time.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a brutal, brutal regime, a brutal
18:51
Speaker 2: dictatorship and uh. And so what I would tell these
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Speaker 2: people is don't give up. Push a little bit harder,
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Speaker 2: and you're you know, understand that the other side also
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Speaker 2: has a breaking point. And the world is watching. The
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Speaker 2: world is watching, the free world is watching, and you know,
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Speaker 2: and I would tell you that for the for the
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Speaker 2: Muslim community, uh, and the Muslim communities that might watch
19:18
Speaker 2: this show overseas, you know, in Saudi or Yemen, or
19:22
Speaker 2: or Jordan or Iraq, uh, that that that have still
19:26
Speaker 2: in Egypt Morocco, Bosnia, many of these places that have
19:31
Speaker 2: big Muslim communities, I mean, Hell, even France and the UK.
19:35
Speaker 2: Now to understand that that this is what all people want.
19:40
Speaker 2: They want their freedom because the the the and I'll
19:43
Speaker 2: use that word again, the yoke of tyranny that that
19:47
Speaker 2: radical uh Islamist supremacists are will do to the human
19:53
Speaker 2: being is so egregious and so outrageous, and you will, like,
19:58
Speaker 2: you know, these women that are throwing off their veils,
20:01
Speaker 2: that is a symbol of sickness that they are done
20:04
Speaker 2: with and they don't want it anymore. And so they
20:07
Speaker 2: want their ability to be able to be human beings
20:10
Speaker 2: instead of being treated less than human, instead of being
20:14
Speaker 2: treated worse than the dogs over in those societies. And
20:17
Speaker 2: I don't say that loosely because that's exactly what they're
20:21
Speaker 2: treated as. They're treated almost as a piece of property.
20:24
Speaker 2: And if you you know, and if they're not of
20:28
Speaker 2: value anymore, they just get thrown out or killed or
20:32
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, there's so much at stake, and
20:37
Speaker 2: it's all connected, it's all connected. So the Iran, Ukraine, Greenland, right,
20:45
Speaker 2: the Straits, the Panama Canal, Venezuela, you know, I use
20:50
Speaker 2: this phrase that I believe personally that the United States
20:52
Speaker 2: of America that we are fishing in the wrong pond.
20:55
Speaker 2: The pond we should be fishing in is the Indo Pacific,
20:59
Speaker 2: you know, the Pacific. That's where we should be fishing.
21:01
Speaker 2: Because the Chinese. Nobody even talks about China anymore. We
21:04
Speaker 2: we hardly talk about China. China's you know, I just
21:07
Speaker 2: mentioned it because they're going to lose They're gonna lose
21:10
Speaker 2: energy supplies, and they're going to have a response to that.
21:13
Speaker 2: For every action in warfare, there was a reaction, and
21:17
Speaker 2: I want to go.
21:17
Speaker 1: I want to go there. If you don't mind, let's
21:19
Speaker 1: go to China in a second. It's General Michael Flynn.
21:21
Speaker 1: Go follow him everywhere, a huge file, a huge social presence.
21:24
Speaker 1: Certainly the former National Security Advisor. He's the guy, you know,
21:28
Speaker 1: he's an all American and we want him on our side.
21:30
Speaker 1: Thank god. He is Pardon of Innocence and inspiring story
21:33
Speaker 1: of faith and freedom. Is his book going? Get that
21:36
Speaker 1: you go, I'll check out a substack sub substack, dot jen.
21:39
Speaker 1: I think it's General Flynn both words dot com, go
21:42
Speaker 1: and check that out. So when we did the Venezuela operation.
21:47
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, just give me a yes or
21:49
Speaker 1: no on this one. Were you were you glad we
21:51
Speaker 1: did it? Were you behind that?
21:53
Speaker 2: I was glad we did it. So yes, I was
21:55
Speaker 2: glad that we did it.
21:56
Speaker 1: I don't want to expand upon that, because you're right.
21:58
Speaker 1: Iran was there, Rush was there, China was there. We
22:01
Speaker 1: took out the special forces from Cuba that was guarding
22:05
Speaker 1: the palace or wherever this guy this installation where Maduro was.
22:08
Speaker 1: So now that we've done that, why did.
22:10
Speaker 3: We do it?
22:10
Speaker 1: Because I think there are several reasons. One obviously, well,
22:14
Speaker 1: they stole a bunch of oil from the oil companies
22:15
Speaker 1: blah blah blah America first, But also I think it
22:18
Speaker 1: had a lot to do with what you just said, China. Now,
22:21
Speaker 1: where are they going to get their freaking oil? That's
22:23
Speaker 1: a great question. So that's very smart. But general, nobody's
22:26
Speaker 1: talking about this third thing. I'm gonna mention and you
22:28
Speaker 1: tell me I from nuts, maybe I am. I think
22:30
Speaker 1: it had to do with the twenty twenty election as well.
22:32
Speaker 3: Do you agree?
22:33
Speaker 2: Yeah? I absolutely had to do with the twenty twenty election.
22:36
Speaker 3: It is Can you explain why? Yeah?
22:39
Speaker 2: Because we now know. We now know that the engineering
22:43
Speaker 2: of the system, the machinery that we use here in
22:46
Speaker 2: the United States of America, that is in I think
22:50
Speaker 2: at least thirty countries. I've heard as many as seventy,
22:52
Speaker 2: but I've seen that the names of countries, I think
22:56
Speaker 2: thirty two countries that have the things like the various
23:00
Speaker 2: named you know, uh capabilities that we have all become
23:04
Speaker 2: familiar with that that that were was designed in uh
23:09
Speaker 2: and created in Venezuela and then used to overthrow or
23:13
Speaker 2: to put in uh you know, uh regimes in other
23:17
Speaker 2: countries around the world. And and and what was what
23:20
Speaker 2: happened was it was used against us. Now who used
23:23
Speaker 2: it now? So it emanates from Venezuela. There's no doubt
23:25
Speaker 2: about that. Uh. You know, there's there's engineers, and that
23:28
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of evidence. There's a ton of of
23:31
Speaker 2: of court evidence now that shows all that. So so
23:35
Speaker 2: I do believe that that was part of the calculation
23:38
Speaker 2: for sure. Uh And and you know, and Medua will
23:42
Speaker 2: offer a lot, but there was already a guy that
23:44
Speaker 2: was offered a lot. Carver Hall was one of the guys.
23:46
Speaker 2: He's in custody right now in a in a federal
23:50
Speaker 2: prison up in New York. Uh, he's one. He's one
23:52
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I think, uh, one of the
23:55
Speaker 2: pieces of intelligence for sure. Uh, certainly pieces of evidence
24:01
Speaker 2: that I think led to a final decision on Moduro.
24:06
Speaker 2: But the the problem is, so the difficulty is this
24:10
Speaker 2: is what we should be questioning. It's I'll question my government.
24:13
Speaker 2: I know, I'll question you know, President Trump on this.
24:16
Speaker 2: It's the what it's the what's next?
24:18
Speaker 3: Right vice president? Because she's a Maduro's regime. She's just
24:22
Speaker 3: anx the vice president.
24:23
Speaker 2: Her brother is to speaker like, he's kind of the
24:25
Speaker 2: you know, the runs runs their congress, you know, their
24:28
Speaker 2: former congress. I mean, they're talking about bringing in a
24:30
Speaker 2: guy to be the defense minister or her vice president.
24:33
Speaker 2: He's sitting in Madrid right now. Uh Micgalla Rodriguez Torres,
24:37
Speaker 2: I think is his name? Brutal brutal guy. I mean, so,
24:41
Speaker 2: so we're not going to have uh and and that's okay,
24:43
Speaker 2: I mean maybe that's what the plan was. Uh. You
24:46
Speaker 2: know they I've heard it called Maduro Light. Is that?
24:51
Speaker 2: What is that? What we're going to end up with
24:53
Speaker 2: is it is the situation stable, you know, is it secure.
24:57
Speaker 2: Do do the companies that need to get back in
25:00
Speaker 2: there for economic development. It's not just oil development and
25:04
Speaker 2: securing the oil fields. There's a lot more there. There's
25:06
Speaker 2: rare earth elements. There's a lot of opportunity in Venezuela
25:11
Speaker 2: to open up. But is that going to happen under
25:14
Speaker 2: this regime because it seems to me, at least from
25:17
Speaker 2: what I have seen, and I'm and I'm you know,
25:19
Speaker 2: looking at it, you know, from a through a different lenses,
25:23
Speaker 2: because I you know, I I have a sophisticated way
25:26
Speaker 2: of getting getting information, not from our government, folks. I
25:29
Speaker 2: want your audience to know that nobody in the government
25:31
Speaker 2: has given me input. This is this is my own
25:34
Speaker 2: network of people, you know, outside and frankly, it's even
25:37
Speaker 2: some people that are there because because security organizations these
25:41
Speaker 2: days are collecting on all kinds of stuff that are
25:44
Speaker 2: it's all unclassified stuff. But but I see enough of
25:47
Speaker 2: it and to know enough of it. And I'm kind
25:48
Speaker 2: of saying, Jesus, sounds like these people are given this
25:51
Speaker 2: Delsia Rodriguez kind of giving us the big mental finger. Yes,
25:53
Speaker 2: you know, so I'm not sure that we're there yet. Now,
25:57
Speaker 2: this business about China and oil and oil to China,
26:01
Speaker 2: but it's also access to the Panama Canal and access
26:06
Speaker 2: to the Caribbean because Cuba has part of this. There's
26:10
Speaker 2: some really critical straits, you know, the straits that are
26:14
Speaker 2: when you look at the basically the island chain, the
26:16
Speaker 2: Caribbean island chain that comes from essentially east coast of Florida,
26:20
Speaker 2: off East coast Florida down to the island of Grenada,
26:22
Speaker 2: which I think is the most southern tip down here,
26:26
Speaker 2: a place I've been to. You know, that's really those
26:30
Speaker 2: are really really strategic lines of communications. The Russians have
26:35
Speaker 2: been in and out of there with their own submarines
26:38
Speaker 2: and their own vessels over time. So if the United
26:42
Speaker 2: States of America dominates our hemisphere, our entire hemisphere, and
26:47
Speaker 2: Venezuela is part of it, it's not just a matter
26:49
Speaker 2: of how much they have, you know, underground in terms
26:52
Speaker 2: of oil, because people have said they're seventeen trillion dollars
26:55
Speaker 2: of you know, of oil in the ground. It's a
26:58
Speaker 2: rich country. Yeah, But if we make it about one
27:00
Speaker 2: big gas station, we've we've we've done the wrong thing.
27:04
Speaker 2: What we need to make it about is about the
27:05
Speaker 2: people of Venezuela. That's the same thing with it back
27:08
Speaker 2: to jumping back to a rant making about the people
27:10
Speaker 2: of a rant. If we're going to stay in Ukraine, Joe,
27:15
Speaker 2: if we're going to stay in Ukraine, cause we're not
27:17
Speaker 2: even talking about you know, you don't even hear about
27:19
Speaker 2: we're in Ukraine, right right, So nothing so, but we're
27:23
Speaker 2: continuing to we're continuing to provide money to that regime.
27:27
Speaker 2: And I'm having it. I'm checking it today. But I
27:31
Speaker 2: just because I saw this thing and I just couldn't
27:32
Speaker 2: believe it that Zelensky has purchased property in the United
27:37
Speaker 2: States of America. And I hope that that's bs. I
27:39
Speaker 2: hope it's just misinformation. But I throw that out there
27:44
Speaker 2: because it's being reported up in like Wyoming or somewhere,
27:48
Speaker 2: you know, I mean the corruption and I know this
27:50
Speaker 2: for a fact. Okay, what I know for a fact
27:53
Speaker 2: is we have a we have a civil case in
27:55
Speaker 2: civil court, federal civil court against UH Ukraine for forty
28:00
Speaker 2: two billion dollars right now.
28:01
Speaker 3: Wow.
28:01
Speaker 2: And and it's that that's that's that money is not well,
28:05
Speaker 2: you know, does not that's not my money, that's that's
28:08
Speaker 2: US taxpayer dollars. That flowed over to Ukraine and some
28:11
Speaker 2: of it has flowed back. I'm trying to help the
28:13
Speaker 2: US government recover that money, now, you know, Yeah, is
28:17
Speaker 2: there a percentage fee that we get if if if
28:19
Speaker 2: it succeeds. Sure, but that's it.
28:22
Speaker 3: You deserve it, of course.
28:23
Speaker 1: Well.
28:24
Speaker 2: Well, but but what we have is we have we
28:25
Speaker 2: have one bulletproof evidence of that amount of at least
28:30
Speaker 2: that amount of money, which we think is around five
28:32
Speaker 2: hundred billion that we've been given to Ukraine. But we
28:35
Speaker 2: have forty two billion of it that we have the
28:37
Speaker 2: evidentiary records of showing it went through US a I
28:41
Speaker 2: D flowed back through you know, goes to Ukraine and
28:44
Speaker 2: now then flows back into different organizations here in the
28:47
Speaker 2: United States of America for campaigns, right and and and
28:51
Speaker 2: you know so you know, so I'm reporting a crime
28:54
Speaker 2: on your show. But we've already reported this to the
28:57
Speaker 2: to the United States of America.
28:58
Speaker 1: Well two years ago General who said we can't find
29:02
Speaker 1: a hundred billion. You guys say, you spent one hundred
29:04
Speaker 1: and seventy six billion, we've only gotten seventy six or
29:07
Speaker 1: is another one hundred I mean he literally said that, right.
29:10
Speaker 2: And so, so you know, we're not talking about Ukraine
29:12
Speaker 2: right now. I mean we're not, it's crazy, but we're
29:15
Speaker 2: talking about Iran. We just talked about for ten days. Venezuela.
29:19
Speaker 2: I mean, you know Greenland, I mean what about you
29:23
Speaker 2: know Many never mind Minneapolis and and this this organization
29:28
Speaker 2: called I think Invisible that that was able to pull
29:31
Speaker 2: together a thousand different demonstrations around the country over this
29:35
Speaker 2: past week, you know, and they and I think it's
29:39
Speaker 2: TSA or DHS, found seven hundred million dollars in cash
29:44
Speaker 2: at the Minneapolis airport and suitcases getting ready to go
29:46
Speaker 2: to Somalia.
29:47
Speaker 1: I guess I had Amy Biggs on yesterday, who's a
29:50
Speaker 1: representative from Arizona that you probably know, and Biggs told
29:53
Speaker 1: me that they were sending a million dollars a day
29:55
Speaker 1: back in cash to Somalia a million a day general.
30:00
Speaker 1: That's over seven hundred million over two years. So I
30:03
Speaker 1: mean we're looking at that situation. You and I can
30:05
Speaker 1: talk about it for the next seven hours. Let me
30:07
Speaker 1: go back and just very quickly hit some points because
30:09
Speaker 1: I know that you'll know the answers. What should happen
30:12
Speaker 1: in Venezuela? Should the guy who won the election in
30:13
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four by the margin of seventy to thirty
30:17
Speaker 1: over Maduro. But then Maduro sentiment in exile and didn't
30:19
Speaker 1: let him take over. Should that guy become the president?
30:21
Speaker 1: Should they do elections tomorrow in Venezuela because this Dulci
30:25
Speaker 1: Rodriguez person should not be the person. So what should
30:28
Speaker 1: happen there for the people to really trust that there's
30:30
Speaker 1: real change in that country?
30:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good question. So and so very important is timing.
30:36
Speaker 2: So this is good timing. I don't know when this,
30:37
Speaker 2: you know, today today? Okay, well today, good tomorrow. In
30:43
Speaker 2: the White House in the Oval Office, President Donald J.
30:46
Speaker 2: Trump is meeting with a Maria Corina Machado. Okay, she
30:50
Speaker 2: actually was the duly elected president of Venezuela at one time.
30:55
Speaker 2: She just won the Nobel Peace Prize and try to
30:58
Speaker 2: give it to him right house, you know. And I'm
31:00
Speaker 2: sure that she's going to talk about a bunch of
31:02
Speaker 2: other things. But but my point is that she was
31:05
Speaker 2: duly elected. Maduro basically said, Aunt, you know, we're not
31:09
Speaker 2: going to recognize that. They they then elected this other gentleman.
31:13
Speaker 2: He became the president. Maduro says, Aunt, we're not going
31:16
Speaker 2: to do you know, we're not going to use take you.
31:19
Speaker 2: He throws that guy of scans and he had to
31:21
Speaker 2: go to he went to Spain. He's been hiding out
31:23
Speaker 2: in Spain. Maria Machado stayed in in the Venezuela and
31:29
Speaker 2: and stayed there and fought back kind of you know,
31:31
Speaker 2: from the jungles of Venezuela. They Maduro threatened the guy
31:36
Speaker 2: that you just mentioned, his threatened him, He threatened his son,
31:40
Speaker 2: uh and and basically has been holding his son. They
31:43
Speaker 2: held him captive for the last I don't know three years,
31:46
Speaker 2: and they threatened his life. So these are brutal people there,
31:49
Speaker 2: and delci Robriguez was all part of this. So so
31:53
Speaker 2: the the the to address your specific point. This is
31:56
Speaker 2: a very important meeting with Trump tomorrow with Machado because
32:00
Speaker 2: I think during that meeting they're going to have to
32:02
Speaker 2: talk about a more formal transition to a to a
32:06
Speaker 2: democratically elected representative of the people of Venezuela and not
32:10
Speaker 2: make this about you know, one big gas station and
32:13
Speaker 2: as long as it's stable, you know, relatively stable, which
32:18
Speaker 2: is not. I don't see it. It's I don't see it.
32:20
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, maybe I'm wrong, But I don't
32:22
Speaker 2: see it. I've heard that they just arrested about one
32:24
Speaker 2: thousand military in the last forty eight seventy two hours
32:29
Speaker 2: down here in Venezuela. I was told that yesterday. So
32:32
Speaker 2: that's not a good sign. So Trump is going to
32:35
Speaker 2: have to talk about this. But this is going to
32:37
Speaker 2: have to be up to the Venezuelan people. And I
32:42
Speaker 2: think that, you know, there's going to have to be
32:45
Speaker 2: some type of I don't know, you call it a
32:47
Speaker 2: council or a commission, some type of group of people
32:51
Speaker 2: that are going to have to come together to say,
32:53
Speaker 2: we are going to have a transit a transitory period
32:56
Speaker 2: of time leading up to elections, maybe this summer, you know,
33:00
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe six months. Yeah, and let the
33:04
Speaker 2: people of Venezuela decide. Because they can run, they can
33:08
Speaker 2: run elections. They know not how to run elections. You know,
33:10
Speaker 2: it's not it's not that unsophisticated of a nation. They
33:13
Speaker 2: can do this this time, though, these elections are going
33:17
Speaker 2: to have to be, you know, internationally observed. The United
33:20
Speaker 2: States clearly should play a role in observing them at
33:23
Speaker 2: least and making sure that they are done done legitimately. Now,
33:29
Speaker 2: you know, honestly in that in that reguard, I hate that.
33:31
Speaker 2: That's so I'm talking about one side of my mouth
33:33
Speaker 2: because the other side of my mouth is we've got
33:35
Speaker 2: to get our own damn elections fixed, exactly right, Yeah,
33:38
Speaker 2: and we've got to We've got a whole people accountable here.
33:40
Speaker 1: Well, we've got governor as you know, we've got governors
33:42
Speaker 1: in this in this country that will not turn over
33:44
Speaker 1: their election roles, their voter roles to the Department of Justice,
33:48
Speaker 1: and like, uh uh, the Department of Justice is suing them.
33:51
Speaker 1: We're finding hundreds of thousands of not millions, of dead
33:54
Speaker 1: people and people who are not eligible to vote, who
33:56
Speaker 1: are voting.
33:57
Speaker 3: That's why turn them over.
34:00
Speaker 2: That includes states like like Georgia. It's a it's a
34:03
Speaker 2: it's a red and it's it's crazy. So with everything
34:09
Speaker 2: that I this this landscape, this geo strategic, geopolitical landscape
34:14
Speaker 2: that I've laid out and we've talked about here the
34:16
Speaker 2: last half hour, the you know, the big the big
34:20
Speaker 2: issues are right here at home and the American people,
34:26
Speaker 2: you know, we we want to love our president. I know,
34:28
Speaker 2: and I'm a big fan. I'm you know, I'm I'm
34:31
Speaker 2: a fan you know, I mean a I want him
34:33
Speaker 2: to succeed so because if he doesn't work, screwed, this
34:37
Speaker 2: country is screwed. And and Trump is bold enough, uh,
34:41
Speaker 2: strong enough, you know, and and and got the right
34:44
Speaker 2: gut intuition, but he but he needs to direct his
34:49
Speaker 2: people to get ship done. Excuse my irish, but you know,
34:53
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about now accountability and election reform because
34:58
Speaker 2: if we don't have those two things, I I mean,
35:00
Speaker 2: how much longer can we wait for people to be
35:03
Speaker 2: indicted for Russia Gate or for jan twenty Jan six
35:09
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty elections are all a crap? Jack Smith?
35:13
Speaker 2: I mean, how much longer can we wait for these things?
35:16
Speaker 3: Right?
35:16
Speaker 2: The Clinton's blown off? You know, I don't know whether
35:19
Speaker 2: Hillary showed up today. You know, she probably didn't.
35:23
Speaker 1: And I'm bell didn't yesterday. And that's what Bannon and
35:26
Speaker 1: Navarro were sent to jail over over contending Congress. I'm
35:29
Speaker 1: glad you went there, and I don't want to take
35:31
Speaker 1: up too much of your time, but I'm glad you
35:32
Speaker 1: went there. Let's talk to domestically when it comes to
35:34
Speaker 1: what's going on in Minneapolis, when it comes to these
35:37
Speaker 1: paid protesters or these people who are completely indoctrinated being
35:41
Speaker 1: being bought and paid for by Act Blue or by
35:43
Speaker 1: Soros or by whoever is starting the trouble there? Can
35:47
Speaker 1: you send the military there? I know poss coomatatus, but
35:50
Speaker 1: possi commatatas just means you can't send the military and
35:53
Speaker 1: to go do traffic infractions. You can't send the military
35:55
Speaker 1: and to go do local ordinances. But you can certainly
35:58
Speaker 1: send them in there like they did during desegregation to
36:01
Speaker 1: protect thee Yeah.
36:04
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, there's been I think there's been sixty
36:08
Speaker 2: four or sixty five times when the military has been
36:11
Speaker 2: been placed into these roles. I mean one, I mean
36:14
Speaker 2: when I served in the military. You know, one of
36:16
Speaker 2: the one of the big ones was the was the
36:18
Speaker 2: uh I forget the guy's name, but it was the
36:19
Speaker 2: La Riots and the seventh Infitry Division, which was out
36:23
Speaker 2: in Fort Ord, California. Right.
36:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:25
Speaker 2: A friend of mine that was a company commander at
36:27
Speaker 2: the time, he was his whole battalion was deployed. They
36:29
Speaker 2: went down there. It was an active duty units to
36:32
Speaker 2: get down there to secures a secure basically the city
36:35
Speaker 2: of Los Angeles, and they did so, you know, so
36:38
Speaker 2: all this all the media was going to beat up Trump,
36:40
Speaker 2: and Trump used to just you know, screw them and
36:43
Speaker 2: not worry about whether he's going to be called the
36:45
Speaker 2: dictator or not. They're going to call them all kinds
36:47
Speaker 2: of names. The main thing that he has to do
36:49
Speaker 2: is preserve the constitution of the United States of America,
36:52
Speaker 2: and and there's so so there. So it's not unprecedented
36:55
Speaker 2: for for the military to be applied, you know, smartly
37:00
Speaker 2: and constitutionally in places around the country to different.
37:04
Speaker 1: Well I think you know this. The people of Minneapolis,
37:06
Speaker 1: and I'm on Live in Minneapolis. You're hearing us now.
37:09
Speaker 1: The people of Minneapolis don't want ICE to leave. The
37:13
Speaker 1: general public wants ICE there to get the bad guys
37:16
Speaker 1: off the streets. But then you've got people blocking roads
37:18
Speaker 1: and burning down or breaking the windows at the hotels
37:21
Speaker 1: and so on.
37:22
Speaker 3: Walls.
37:22
Speaker 1: Isn't going to stop them. The police chief has said
37:24
Speaker 1: he's on Somalia's side, which is weird. The mayor's an idiot.
37:27
Speaker 1: So can the president send some troops in and say
37:30
Speaker 1: stop it?
37:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that at a certain point in time,
37:34
Speaker 2: if it keeps going on and there's more and more
37:36
Speaker 2: destruction and the governor is not doing his job. The
37:39
Speaker 2: President of the United States of America has the duty
37:43
Speaker 2: and responsibility to preserve, which I use that word very precisely,
37:47
Speaker 2: the Constitution of the United States of America and to
37:49
Speaker 2: protect the safety and security of the American people. He
37:52
Speaker 2: has the responsibility there if there is a you know
37:57
Speaker 2: it kind of you know, if the situation dicked where
38:02
Speaker 2: we are starting to look like the summer of twenty
38:04
Speaker 2: twenty again, we can't go through this. We cannot go
38:08
Speaker 2: through another almost near insurrection of our country by elements
38:14
Speaker 2: that are subversives. You know, when you start to see
38:17
Speaker 2: some of these where are these people? You know, you
38:19
Speaker 2: start to ask these people, where are you from? They're
38:21
Speaker 2: not from Minneapolis. They're not from Minnesota. These are people
38:24
Speaker 2: that are sent in by these organizations that are undermining
38:29
Speaker 2: our way of life. You know, let's come to grips
38:33
Speaker 2: with that, folks, because I'm sorry, that's that's the reality
38:37
Speaker 2: that we're facing right now. We have a large body
38:40
Speaker 2: of people and frankly, you know what, Pegs and you
38:43
Speaker 2: to your audience, we're paying for the whole da damn thing.
38:46
Speaker 2: I mean, our taxpayer dollars are funding all of this. Stuff.
38:50
Speaker 2: The money that is that we are seeing coming out
38:54
Speaker 2: of there is taxpayer money, and we're funding a lot
38:58
Speaker 2: of these a lot of these UH demonstrations, protests you
39:02
Speaker 2: know that turn violent, and they turn violent, not because
39:05
Speaker 2: the cops are doing it, and the cops are trying
39:07
Speaker 2: to do their job. You know, the the law enforcement
39:10
Speaker 2: professionals out there, they're just trying to do their job,
39:12
Speaker 2: you know. You know it's like, hey, if a police
39:14
Speaker 2: officer tells you don't don't go there, or I need
39:17
Speaker 2: you to step out of your car, you know, step
39:20
Speaker 2: out of your damn car. You know, if you're not
39:22
Speaker 2: doing anything wrong, then then don't worry about it. But
39:25
Speaker 2: if you're doing something wrong, if you're not where you're
39:28
Speaker 2: supposed to be, if you're in a place that you're
39:31
Speaker 2: you know, you're being paid to be there. I mean,
39:33
Speaker 2: you know, you got to start looking at some of
39:35
Speaker 2: these organizations. Some of these organizations need to be shut down.
39:39
Speaker 2: And how are they shut down? You've got to cut
39:41
Speaker 2: their money off, you got to you got to potentially
39:43
Speaker 2: go after their leadership because if their leadership are people
39:46
Speaker 2: that are that are anti American and they're and they're
39:48
Speaker 2: doing things to to undermine the the again the constitution
39:52
Speaker 2: of the United States, then things have to happen. I'm sorry,
39:55
Speaker 2: I just at a certain point in time, we have
39:58
Speaker 2: to stop, you know, the playing of games with with
40:03
Speaker 2: with this external and some of it is external money,
40:06
Speaker 2: but a lot of it is our own taxpayer money.
40:08
Speaker 2: And you've heard these guys, You've heard these congressmen on
40:12
Speaker 2: that are a couple of good ones that are and
40:14
Speaker 2: and he's Biggs is one of them. You know, there's
40:16
Speaker 2: a couple of others. And give me because I don't
40:18
Speaker 2: know their names, but I know I know who they are,
40:19
Speaker 2: and people know who they are. You know that that
40:22
Speaker 2: are are standing up and saying we've got to stop
40:25
Speaker 2: voting these bills that that keep paying these people hundreds
40:29
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars in government grants to do what
40:34
Speaker 2: to take the money and go to go to send
40:36
Speaker 2: it to Somalia or send it into or send it
40:38
Speaker 2: into our own our own suicide here. I mean, you know,
40:43
Speaker 2: I think the last thing that I would say on
40:46
Speaker 2: all of this is that you know, if you know,
40:51
Speaker 2: we're going into tax season right people are starting to
40:54
Speaker 2: get ten ninety nine's from their employers and all this
40:56
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. And you know, we're going into the
40:58
Speaker 2: tax season here. I mean, we're being told that fifty
41:01
Speaker 2: percent of our of our taxpayer dollars are going to corruption.
41:06
Speaker 2: Why are we paying income taxes? So for the President
41:09
Speaker 2: of the United States, what do you ought to do?
41:10
Speaker 2: Is he ought to say, you know what, nobody's going
41:12
Speaker 2: to pay income taxes. We're going to get money. I'd
41:15
Speaker 2: love that, you know, no income taxes this year, you know.
41:18
Speaker 2: And honestly, instead of sending a check for two thousand
41:22
Speaker 2: or whatever the amount of money is, what he ought
41:24
Speaker 2: to do is he ought to send everybody a check
41:26
Speaker 2: for fifty thousand, because guess what they just found seven
41:30
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in suitcases. That that is our money.
41:34
Speaker 2: It's US taxpayer dollars in suitcases of Minneapolis Airport. So
41:38
Speaker 2: you divide that by every working every legal, working adult
41:42
Speaker 2: in this country. I don't know what that would mean,
41:44
Speaker 2: and wet one hundred and ninety million. Let's say, let's
41:46
Speaker 2: say two hundred million people invite it into seven hundred million.
41:49
Speaker 2: That's a big paycheck for everybody, right.
41:51
Speaker 1: It would be pretty good for sure. And I love
41:53
Speaker 1: the idea. There is a movement that where people are saying,
41:55
Speaker 1: don't pay your taxes. It's all going to fraud anyway.
41:58
Speaker 1: I don't know that we should do that unless there
42:00
Speaker 1: and he says we should do that, because.
42:01
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and say that, Joe. I'm mean,
42:04
Speaker 2: I mean, because if you do the I RST will.
42:06
Speaker 3: Come after you, coming, get you exactly right.
42:08
Speaker 2: Now, come and get you. I mean, I've paid my
42:10
Speaker 2: taxes all the time, me too, you know, and you
42:14
Speaker 2: do it exactly and you know that the system is corrupt.
42:18
Speaker 2: But now it's like it's so severe and we're done
42:21
Speaker 2: and it's in your face.
42:22
Speaker 1: And we know about it. Let me let me finish
42:24
Speaker 1: with this. Thanks for all the time today. The DOJ
42:28
Speaker 1: as it stands has been you know, talking the talk.
42:31
Speaker 1: They they're not walking the walk.
42:33
Speaker 3: General.
42:33
Speaker 1: I like PAMBONDI I like Cash Pateel, I like Dan
42:37
Speaker 1: Bongino who just left. I like these people. I think
42:40
Speaker 1: Harmey Harmeat Dylon might be the best person in the
42:42
Speaker 1: DJ right now. She's doing really good work in the
42:44
Speaker 1: Civil Rights Division. All that said, we know they're two
42:48
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five federal agents FBI agents undercover in
42:52
Speaker 1: that group. On January sixth, twenty twenty one, and Cashpateel,
42:56
Speaker 1: who I like, looked at the camera and said they
42:58
Speaker 1: were there for crowd control. General, they weren't marked FBI agents.
43:02
Speaker 1: How do you control the crowd of nobody knows who
43:04
Speaker 1: you are? What were they doing there? There were also
43:06
Speaker 1: twenty six undercover informants in that crowd. Nobody has faced
43:09
Speaker 1: the music at all when it comes in January sixth.
43:12
Speaker 1: Only this loser who allegedly set the pipe bombs call
43:15
Speaker 1: me isn't facing the music over what he did to you.
43:17
Speaker 1: McKay isn't facing the music over what he did to you.
43:20
Speaker 1: All these people are gonna are gonna walk scott free.
43:22
Speaker 1: You've got General Millie who, for God's sakes called the
43:24
Speaker 1: Chinese and said, if Trump does something, I'll tell you
43:28
Speaker 1: he's not facing the music. General, how do you feel
43:30
Speaker 1: about the DOJ so far in the job they're doing.
43:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I generally agree with you on
43:36
Speaker 2: our feelings, right, our feelings for these people who I know.
43:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we both were the same events that we
43:43
Speaker 3: were at. Yeah, we know.
43:43
Speaker 2: I still I will tell you that I still don't
43:45
Speaker 2: understand why Dan Bongino is leaving. I don't understand why
43:48
Speaker 2: he's leaving. I don't. I have not heard a good
43:50
Speaker 2: explanation for that. Dan Will he'll talk to that. But
43:53
Speaker 2: I don't understand why he's leaving. Maybe he had problems
43:56
Speaker 2: with with the DOJ headquarters. We'll find out out. But
44:02
Speaker 2: Tom Fitton the other day of Judicial Watch, they do
44:04
Speaker 2: great work. He just published an Alfoya Alfoya release the
44:07
Speaker 2: other day about how many people that the DOJ or
44:10
Speaker 2: that the FBI has actually gotten rid of, and I
44:13
Speaker 2: think the number was like one hundred and thirty five,
44:15
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so when you go into these
44:17
Speaker 2: large organizations and it's a you know, the FBI, you know,
44:21
Speaker 2: I think the FBI is probably might get I'm guessing
44:23
Speaker 2: a little bit forty thousand, maybe forty five thousand people.
44:26
Speaker 2: I mean, these are big organizations, and to reform them, uh,
44:31
Speaker 2: you know, requires that you have had experience running organizations
44:35
Speaker 2: like that, Okay, which I have run large organizations, and
44:39
Speaker 2: I know that reforming them requires it requires a massive,
44:43
Speaker 2: massive effort, and it requires a lot of pain. There's
44:46
Speaker 2: a lot of pain that's involved there, and there's a
44:47
Speaker 2: lot of gnashing of teeth, but you have to do it.
44:50
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I have not seen that in
44:52
Speaker 2: any of the government organizations that we have at all,
44:55
Speaker 2: not any of them, I mean, not the Department of War,
44:58
Speaker 2: the intelligence community, do you jay. Now. The other side
45:03
Speaker 2: is is that I don't know what the priorities are
45:06
Speaker 2: of the Department of Justice, and I would like to
45:09
Speaker 2: see that. And you can go to their website and
45:10
Speaker 2: look up you know, some of that, but it's like,
45:12
Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't seem clear to me what the
45:15
Speaker 2: Department Justice priorities are. I know what President Trump says,
45:18
Speaker 2: and because I watched what he says all the time
45:21
Speaker 2: and you know, and and what he puts out when
45:23
Speaker 2: he talks about and I can tell that Trump wants
45:26
Speaker 2: stuff done. He wants he wants action taken against uh
45:29
Speaker 2: those that that that have have uh have destroyed our
45:33
Speaker 2: election integrity. He wants action against those who are who
45:37
Speaker 2: undermined our institutions of government, you know, and and him
45:40
Speaker 2: as a duly elected president, I mean the Director of
45:43
Speaker 2: National Intelligence, Telsey Garbert, a great director. She's done wonderful work.
45:48
Speaker 2: She called Obama out for treason. Trump called Obama out.
45:53
Speaker 3: For treason and nothing else.
45:55
Speaker 2: That was last summer. So so you know, I mean,
45:59
Speaker 2: you know, and then and then you have all the
46:01
Speaker 2: other you know, noise and distractions of foreign policy that
46:04
Speaker 2: we've already talked about. But but the American people, what
46:07
Speaker 2: we really want is we want to we want our
46:09
Speaker 2: prices low. We want the government out of our our
46:13
Speaker 2: you know, out of our our way. We want to
46:16
Speaker 2: be able to live the life we want to live,
46:19
Speaker 2: and we frankly want people to be held accountable if
46:23
Speaker 2: they committed egregious crimes against our country general.
46:28
Speaker 1: Last last question connected to all that last question, and
46:31
Speaker 1: I know you got to go, and I appreciate all
46:33
Speaker 1: the time, come back again very soon. Why aren't they
46:36
Speaker 1: doing it? It sounds like a simple question. They've got
46:39
Speaker 1: all the evidence. You and I could prosecute them tomorrow,
46:41
Speaker 1: and we're not in the DJ. What's the hold up?
46:44
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think two things. Honestly, I think from my view,
46:48
Speaker 2: I think two things. The way that they've organized themselves.
46:51
Speaker 2: I don't think that they've properly tasked to organized the
46:54
Speaker 2: Department of Justice to be able to handle the load.
46:57
Speaker 2: And number two are the people inside. There are still
47:01
Speaker 2: many people inside the Department of Justice, and that includes
47:04
Speaker 2: some within the various law enforcement entities, particularly the FBI.
47:08
Speaker 2: That are people that are not working for them, they're
47:12
Speaker 2: working against them. And so uh, you know, Dan and
47:16
Speaker 2: Cash and Pam, they can say what they want. These
47:19
Speaker 2: are these are not just not Mike Flinn making this up.
47:21
Speaker 2: These are people talking about this. These are yes, I mean,
47:24
Speaker 2: these are these are I mean, look look at what
47:26
Speaker 2: we just learned from O'Keefe with the Secret Service and
47:31
Speaker 2: the Secret Service around around the uh, the Vice President
47:34
Speaker 2: United States. Well, if that's one guy, believe me, he's
47:37
Speaker 2: not all by himself over there having these conversations talking
47:40
Speaker 2: to himself in a mirror. These are guys, these all
47:43
Speaker 2: these guys. It needs to be cleaned out our government,
47:47
Speaker 2: our government, the government reform needs to be done, and
47:50
Speaker 2: it needs to be done, you know, yesterday and I
47:54
Speaker 2: don't see it. I don't see it. And I wish
47:56
Speaker 2: that I I wish that I could say differently, and
48:01
Speaker 2: I do want to see I mean, like I said,
48:05
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where we would be if
48:07
Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump didn't get elected. And I've voted for him,
48:10
Speaker 2: you know, three times. I work my tail off all
48:13
Speaker 2: three times, all three times, but I certainly you know
48:17
Speaker 2: two of those times twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four.
48:20
Speaker 2: You know, blood sweat and tears, subpoenas, grand juries that
48:25
Speaker 2: I've had to sit in front of, you know, potential indictments,
48:28
Speaker 2: you know, money going out of my rear end on
48:31
Speaker 2: paying for all this crap, and you know, and I
48:33
Speaker 2: continue to get called all this bullshit. But I'm just
48:36
Speaker 2: telling you PAGs that if we don't make this window
48:42
Speaker 2: right now between now in the midterms, this country, you know,
48:46
Speaker 2: this country could go in a really bad direction here
48:49
Speaker 2: very quickly. And I think that the law fair the
48:52
Speaker 2: pushback that we're seeing inside of our government and certainly
48:56
Speaker 2: by those out on the outside that are trying to
48:59
Speaker 2: upset at this president's presidency. They are using time to
49:04
Speaker 2: their advantage, and it seems to me that they're managing
49:07
Speaker 2: that time much better than we are.
49:09
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49:17
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49:21
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49:23
Speaker 1: Faith and Freedom. You know you've got your finger on
49:26
Speaker 1: the pulse. General, thank you so much for making the
49:27
Speaker 1: time today. You're right about everything you said, and I'll
49:30
Speaker 1: leave you with this that I know you agree with.
49:32
Speaker 1: If we don't focus on getting the right result in
49:35
Speaker 1: the midterms, they will impeach Trump every day starting next year,
49:40
Speaker 1: for two straight years. They will impeach him. He won't
49:42
Speaker 1: be convicted, they'll compeach him, and the entire agenda stops,
49:45
Speaker 1: and what he's doing in a positive fashion for all
49:47
Speaker 1: of us here and well beyond will stop as well.
49:50
Speaker 2: Right, it'll be a blood letting. I mean, I think
49:54
Speaker 2: it's the you know, God knows what the consequences are
49:57
Speaker 2: going to be, but they're letting us know right now.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I couldn't agree more. General, Thank you so much.
50:03
Speaker 1: Let's do it again very soon. Appreciate you.
50:05
Speaker 2: Thank you Sea.
50:06
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for Unshaking and Unafraid with Joe
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