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Conversations from ISTE Live with Dr. Rachelle Dene Poth · Integrate This! Ed Tech Podcast

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  Hey, welcome to the interview at this EdTech
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  podcast. I'm David Berner, and I am joined by
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  Dr. Rochelle Denapeau, author, AI strategist,
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  speaker, attorney, and podcaster as well. And
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  so we're really happy to have you here. Thanks
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  for joining us. Yeah, I'm happy to be here with
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  you as well. So can you tell us a little bit
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  about the sessions that you've done first? Yeah,
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  I've had a busy schedule. Sunday I came in, I
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  did a five -hour pre -conference workshop. It
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  was Balancing Humanity and Innovation in STEAM
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  Learning. So a mixed group, which was awesome.
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  We had educators, paraprofessionals, people that
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  are in administrative roles. And so trying to
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  plan out for it was a little bit interesting
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  because to see what would be beneficial to them.
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  But I had modules. I had like AI. I did augmented
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  virtual reality. I had coding. I had drones.
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  And then the last hour was space. station exploration.
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  So I had some friends bring in the different
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  robots and drones and we had like stations set
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  up and I had 80s music playing in the background
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  and it was like it was just really a great experience
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  and so that was the first one to kick it off
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  and then on Monday I have to think back now.
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  Monday, I was part of an AI and EdTech super
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  share panel with a group and it was like rapid
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  pace. We've done it, I think, for the last three
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  ISTE conferences. I have my own session, a couple
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  booth sessions that I did and I like doing those
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  as well because it's fun to get out there in
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  Expo Hall and do some demos and meet some people
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  and see some friends. And then yesterday I did
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  a discovery stage. with Jamie Donnelly, all about
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  augmented virtual reality and AI, of course.
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  And then in the afternoon, I set up a panel discussion
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  at the learning stage. And I was the moderator,
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  but I was joined by Nancy Blair Black, Dr. Sheldon
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  Aikens, and Michael Hernandez. And so I made
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  up the questions. I put little icons on the screen
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  to signify who was answering it, but I didn't
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  really tell all of them what their symbol was.
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  So that was really well done, too. It was a great
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  conversation. And then today, I have a couple
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  booth presentations. And then my last session...
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  the day is AI and the Law from 1 .30 till 3 in
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  room 110B. It rhymes really well. So a pretty
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  packed schedule, but it's been great to see everybody.
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  And it's just like, I would say like learning
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  is everywhere. And it's such a... I would never
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  miss ISTE. The conference is great. Yeah. And
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  can we talk a little bit too about the... So
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  the session you have coming up, the AI and the
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  Law session, can you give us a little bit more
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  insight on that session? What people expect during
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  that? It's a session that, you know, I've been
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  doing AI sessions, just general AI sessions for
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  like eight years, but in the last three years,
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  I started to realize there's bigger issues that
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  are out there. So in that session, we talk about,
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  like, what are the concerns with AI in education,
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  you know, talking about bias, ethical considerations,
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  how to stay safe online. We look at some different
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  platforms that are, you know, in compliance,
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  and it helps people know what to look for when
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  they're vetting tools. I have some scenarios
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  about, like, what would you do if, that's built
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  in. So it's not just me talking. the whole time.
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  It's meant to be interactive and engaging, kind
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  of thought -provoking. I tell stories a lot about
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  things that people have done. So there's some
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  of like the don'ts, the do's and the don'ts that
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  come into it. But it's a 90 -minute session,
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  and I've done it as a seven -and -a -half -hour
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  workshop. I've also done it as...and that was
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  a virtual one. I've also done it as a six -hour,
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  but it's probably...I love doing all the sessions,
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  but it's probably become my most favorite session
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  to do just because of all of the scenarios and
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  everything that you can do within it. And it
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  gets people talking, really thinking about it
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  at a higher level. Yeah, and that's like an angle
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  that I don't see very often, like where it's
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  like specifically focused on the law and the
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  things that they should be aware of and ethical
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  concerns and all that type of thing. As far as
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  ISTE goes, how many years have you been coming
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  to ISTE? Which now has a new name. I know. It's
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  International Society for Transforming Education.
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  And the first time I went was in 2015. I became
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  a member in 2014 when I was getting my master's
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  degree. And I think that it was in Atlanta that
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  year potentially. And I had heard about it. And
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  I thought about going. But I didn't. But it was
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  in Philly. you know, across the state where I
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  live. So I went there, took the train out, and
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  it was just like, wow, when I walked in, when
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  you got to see and meet people that you had met
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  online and known on Twitter or LinkedIn or wherever,
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  and just so many opportunities for learning everywhere.
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  A little bit stressful at first because you're
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  trying to plan your schedule, but what I've been
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  telling people was like, don't worry about it,
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  you know, plan it out because if you're planning
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  to get to that session, you might run into friends
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  along the way and you're not actually going to
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  get there, but you're going to have conversations
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  and that's still learning. So I've come to every
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  single one except when they have them virtually,
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  so. Yeah, maybe 10 now, I think. Okay. But they
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  come around so quickly because some of the people
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  that work here, the other day I walked by and
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  I waved at somebody and went, I feel like I just
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  did that in San Antonio. I had so many deja vus
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  that day. It's like, where did the time go? Yeah,
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  as far as you mentioned, like people that you
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  meet while you're here, is there anybody that
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  you're like super happy to meet or have met that
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  you only knew online? Well, yeah, in the panel
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  yesterday, Dr. Sheldon Aikens, we had connected.
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  I had one of my podcasts before. Actually, I
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  had him... Probably six years ago, we did a talk.
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  I was doing these video series and I had him
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  as a guest on that and I kind of had forgotten
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  about that. But then I had him on the podcast
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  and had him join as a panel on the panel yesterday.
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  And we had not met in person, just interacted
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  on Facebook and had conversations over the years.
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  And so it was great to actually meet him in person.
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  So that's the first one that comes to mind. Okay.
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  This is a tough question. What do you wish somebody
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  told you before your first ISTE? Oh, the advice
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  that I give now. Don't worry so much about planning
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  the perfect schedule and everything. Look at
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  the program, think about things that you might
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  want to learn, mark some of those down, but also
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  make time for social events and don't be afraid
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  to go and sit down next to a buddy and get in
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  a conversation and you're going to be tired.
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  but don't go back and sleep. Keep going because
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  I always say, I'm gonna sleep in August, it's
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  okay. But just making sure that you get out there
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  and don't stress too much about like, I didn't
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  make this schedule or I didn't get to this session,
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  it's fine. You're still gonna walk away with
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  a lot. Yeah, you won't make everything, right?
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  I know. Although, you know what? I try. When
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  I put it on my schedule, I'm like, I'm going
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  to do it. I'm going to do it. But I get close,
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  but it's OK. Yeah, I'm notorious for starring
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  so many things, but not making so many. I know.
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  I get the calendar conflict. I'm like, I know.
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  I'm going to make a last minute game day decision
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  on that one. Yep, absolutely. So as far as what
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  you have going on right now, can you preview
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  for us a little bit of things that you have coming
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  up? So we're at SD Now, but afterwards, what
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  kind of things are you working on? Well, in July,
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  I have a few conferences I'll be going to. I'll
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  be going to Texas for a Tech Connect conference
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  that's at a school district. And then the week
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  after, I'll be going back to Lexington, Kentucky.
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  for their KEDC AI Summit, which is the second
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  year. Last year, I was honored to be the opening
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  keynote. I had some sessions and I moderated
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  a panel there as well. So I've just, I don't
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  know, I really like moderating panels now. I
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  think that and booth demos, it's kind of fun
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  to, I mean, there's a lot of planning that goes
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  into it, but so I have that. And then in August,
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  I'll be going to Hancock in Missouri, a school
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  district for a two -day event and doing a keynote
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  and some sessions there as well. So we'll see
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  what happens in the fall. There's some conferences
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  and things, but... always looking for more opportunities
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  to do something, or maybe do some writing, or
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  like I said, maybe sleep in August. No, okay.
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  You have to keep going, and you have to. You
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  have to keep it learning, so. Yeah, and you do
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  have some books, many books, as well. Do you
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  have anything new coming out, or are you...?
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  Yes. In the process, I am working on the second
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  edition of my How to Teach AI book. I had started
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  another book and then of course, you know, other
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  things come up along the way. I'm like, oh, that's
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  okay. But I have an idea for what might be a
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  kind of interesting book concept, but I'm not
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  going to say what it is about, but we'll see
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  how that goes. But other than that, constantly
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  like writing blogs, articles and things, newsletters,
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  you name it. So just trying to be consistent
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  with all of that. Okay, great. One last question
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  for you. Okay. Is there anybody that we haven't
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  had on the podcast that you think we should?
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  And I'm not entirely sure if you have or had
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  it hadn't had them on air, but I would say Ken
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  Shelton Okay. Yeah, Ken's been on Ken's been
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  on so okay. We beat you do it That's he's definitely
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  one of my go -to's Hmm. I have to think now because
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  we I was just with him two weeks ago in Alabama
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  and he was the keynote So hmm, that was like
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  my number one get well, I'm gonna one. I have
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  a lot of other ones how about Oh, this is hard,
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  because I didn't think it was on there. Jamie
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  Donnelly? No, I haven't. There you go. OK. And
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  you should ask her really tough questions because
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  of what she puts me through sometimes when we're
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  together. No, but she would be great. She's amazing
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  with augmented virtual reality. So go for Jamie
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  Donnelly. That would be great. Awesome. Well,
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  make sure you follow Rochelle on all the socials,
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  the website. Yeah, I'm very consistent with R
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  the D E N E nine one five because it's my first
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  Initial my middle name and my birthday because
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  it goes back to the AOL days when you create
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  an account So if you just put the WWW and then
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  comm after it or send me an email put the gmail
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  I just search that you'll find me. All right,
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  great Well, make sure you follow and then also
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  follow the integrate this podcast on all the
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  podcast platforms and YouTube as well Rochelle
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  Thanks. Yep. Appreciate it. Thank you