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- 0:57Speaker 2: news today. We got a lot to do Byron Yours
- 0:59Speaker 2: is going to be here to talk about.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Ron got up to the minute updates.
- 1:02Speaker 2: I got breaking development on Trump's weaponization board, which is
- 1:05Speaker 2: apparently that fund may or may not be going away.
- 1:08Speaker 2: More details on that in a little bit, and then
- 1:11Speaker 2: we're going to get to the Democrats, Graham Plattner, his
- 1:13Speaker 2: crazy wife, Jill Biden.
- 1:15Speaker 3: All of this is going to come up on.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Today's show, but we'll start in Lebanon, where Israel is
- 1:20Speaker 2: trying to make a claim for more territory, encroaching in
- 1:25Speaker 2: on Lebanon while Hesbela has been distracted, I think largely
- 1:29Speaker 2: because of the Iranian War, where the Iranian regime.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Has been I think crippled.
- 1:34Speaker 2: They've been decapitated, is the way Scott Bessent phrased it
- 1:37Speaker 2: to me when I was with him on Friday. I'll
- 1:39Speaker 2: talk to you about that interaction a little bit coming
- 1:41Speaker 2: up as well. But Hesbela has tried to make rocket
- 1:45Speaker 2: attacks on Israel as well, So now they're going back
- 1:47Speaker 2: and forth. It is a rocket campaign going both directions.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And this is interesting because I think Israel it probably
- 1:54Speaker 2: benefits from Hesbela's attack in a way, because I think
- 1:57Speaker 2: a lot of people who are allied with President Trump think.
- 2:00Speaker 3: That what is Israel doing? They got to knock it off.
- 2:02Speaker 2: They've got to stop attacking Hesbela right now while we're
- 2:05Speaker 2: trying to force Peach with Iran. Hesblo of course is
- 2:08Speaker 2: an Iranian proxy, but now with Hesbelo retaliating, it definitely
- 2:12Speaker 2: seems to legitimate Israel going in hard against Lebanon and
- 2:16Speaker 2: trying to vanquish that ancient foe of Theirs, while Iran,
- 2:20Speaker 2: their primary backer, has got bigger fish to fry for themselves.
- 2:25Speaker 2: So that's going back and forth. That is not a
- 2:27Speaker 2: positive development when it comes to a piece if Iran
- 2:29Speaker 2: is going to maintain that a peaceful Lebanon is essential
- 2:33Speaker 2: to forging a piece deal. Meanwhile, the Lebanese government, led
- 2:37Speaker 2: by Joseph Aoun, who's generally sort of a cool customer
- 2:40Speaker 2: and all this, he is trying not to get involved
- 2:43Speaker 2: at all. He's trying to stay out of it, not mediating,
- 2:45Speaker 2: not brokering anything. And that's why these complicated. Territorial disputes
- 2:49Speaker 2: in the Middle East are always way more complicated than
- 2:52Speaker 2: we want. And thus we are where we're at now,
- 2:55Speaker 2: which is Trump saying that all shooting must stop between
- 2:59Speaker 2: Israel and Hezbela, and his claim that he's spoken to
- 3:02Speaker 2: leaders of both Israel and Hesbela.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Just in the last couple of hours.
- 3:06Speaker 2: He says he had a productive call with Prime Minister
- 3:09Speaker 2: bb Nennyaho of Israel. This is on true social I'm
- 3:12Speaker 2: reading now there will be no troops going to be route,
- 3:15Speaker 2: and any troops that are on their way have already
- 3:17Speaker 2: been turned back. Likewise, through highly placed representatives, I had
- 3:22Speaker 2: a very good call with Hesbela. So he didn't have
- 3:26Speaker 2: the call, but highly placed representatives spoke to the terrorist
- 3:30Speaker 2: regime Hesbela, and they agreed that all shooting will stop.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Israel will not attack them, and they will not attack Israel.
- 3:37Speaker 2: So what's interesting here You had to read between the lines,
- 3:40Speaker 2: is it Trump wants Israel to knock it off for
- 3:42Speaker 2: the time being. You know this because Trump is focused
- 3:45Speaker 2: on Iran, which is a much bigger piece of the
- 3:47Speaker 2: puzzle than what happens with Hesbela.
- 3:49Speaker 3: Then Yahoo sees this as a.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Golden opportunity to bomb some of the bad guys while
- 3:54Speaker 2: the world is looking in the other direction. And Trump
- 3:56Speaker 2: sees it as nen yah, who's got to calm down
- 3:58Speaker 2: if we're going to get to a piece.
- 4:00Speaker 3: So that's where we are.
- 4:01Speaker 2: But talks have essentially been suspended as of today. Iran
- 4:05Speaker 2: has said they've halted direct negotiations via mediators with the
- 4:09Speaker 2: United States, citing Israel's ongoing strikes and operations in Lebanon.
- 4:14Speaker 2: This is of course complicated for Trump, who it seems
- 4:16Speaker 2: like each and every day makes the world feel as
- 4:18Speaker 2: though we could be on the brink of peace. We
- 4:20Speaker 2: could see peace breaking out anytime soon. Iran state media
- 4:24Speaker 2: is reporting all this with warnings that breaches on one
- 4:27Speaker 2: front invalidate the truth the truce overall, meaning it's not
- 4:32Speaker 2: just the United States he's keeping an eye on, He's
- 4:35Speaker 2: also keeping an eye on Also, He's not just keeping
- 4:39Speaker 2: on the stat's keeping on Israel. And so this is
- 4:42Speaker 2: where these things get very complicated. And Iran has played
- 4:45Speaker 2: its biggest card, which is the strait of our moose blockade.
- 4:47Speaker 2: So if we can somehow get through this moment, I
- 4:50Speaker 2: do feel like Trump is going to have a clear
- 4:52Speaker 2: path to piece and messaging to the rest of the
- 4:54Speaker 2: world that he has achieved a historic victory in terms
- 4:57Speaker 2: of denuclear rising Iran, decapitating their navy, decapitating their air force,
- 5:01Speaker 2: decapitating their top two levels of leadership. I mentioned I
- 5:04Speaker 2: spent some time with the Secretary of the Treasury, Scott
- 5:07Speaker 2: Bessant on Friday.
- 5:08Speaker 3: We were going around my neck of the.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Woods in LA and he was talking a lot about
- 5:12Speaker 2: how economic security is national security, and he was really
- 5:17Speaker 2: touting the fact that Trump is these military victories over Iran,
- 5:22Speaker 2: even though we haven't gotten the nuclear dust yet. We
- 5:25Speaker 2: want to have more assurances that Aron will not be
- 5:27Speaker 2: doing any more nuclear development for the next twenty years
- 5:29Speaker 2: or more.
- 5:30Speaker 3: We want all that, But.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Already what they've done is they've made it so the
- 5:33Speaker 2: United States is a more dominant player economically in the region.
- 5:38Speaker 2: And I think that this is something that's worth taking in.
- 5:41Speaker 2: This came up a little bit in what I think
- 5:43Speaker 2: we're pretty historic remarks at the Reagan Institute where the
- 5:48Speaker 2: Secretary was speaking on Friday.
- 5:50Speaker 3: I think laying out what I.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Think is a new thesis that we all those of
- 5:56Speaker 2: us who subscribe to MAGA economics as I do. I
- 5:59Speaker 2: work on a newsletter every day called The Bright Part
- 6:02Speaker 2: Business Digest, where we go through Maganomics that national security
- 6:06Speaker 2: and foreign policy are directly intertwined, and in fact a
- 6:10Speaker 2: fundamental principle of the Treasury Secretary that they have to
- 6:13Speaker 2: make sure that we're short up on a national security
- 6:15Speaker 2: level because a lot of the war that's being waged
- 6:18Speaker 2: against Iran is economic. Cutting them off from economics is
- 6:22Speaker 2: one of our most powerful powerful points of leverage and
- 6:25Speaker 2: also keeps.
- 6:25Speaker 3: Us out of keeps our troops out of harm's way.
- 6:27Speaker 3: Let's play a little cut of this. Let's play cut
- 6:29Speaker 3: three guys.
- 6:30Speaker 4: America should never again put itself in a position where
- 6:34Speaker 4: its security depends on supply chains. It does not control factories,
- 6:40Speaker 4: It no longer maintains are skilled trades it failed to preserve.
- 6:45Speaker 4: That is why the presence agenda matters. Reasonable people can
- 6:49Speaker 4: debate the calibration of any particular instrument, but the central
- 6:53Speaker 4: strategic insight is undoubtedly sound. Trade policy, industrial capacity, and
- 6:59Speaker 4: national security are inseparable and to allow for independent grade.
- 7:06Speaker 2: In yeah, and he goes on, yeah, and he goes
- 7:08Speaker 2: on in the speech to lay out exactly how supply
- 7:11Speaker 2: chain vulnerabilities that we've created for ourselves are actually a
- 7:15Speaker 2: national security threat. The fact that we had our pharmaceutical
- 7:18Speaker 2: reserves depleted and we're dependent on China for all those
- 7:21Speaker 2: that's a grave strategic blunder. The fact that we're so
- 7:24Speaker 2: reliant on chips from overseas is a grave strategic blunder.
- 7:28Speaker 2: The fact that our economy is so tied into China
- 7:31Speaker 2: that we're in this spot where we have to sell
- 7:33Speaker 2: them so much of our technology that then of course
- 7:36Speaker 2: they're stealing a bunch of it. Now they're in our universities,
- 7:38Speaker 2: taking our know how, our intellectual property, bringing it back
- 7:41Speaker 2: to China. My good friend Peter Schwitzer, who is a
- 7:44Speaker 2: senior contributor for US to write our News, written his book,
- 7:47Speaker 2: wrote in his book The Invisible Coup, how China has
- 7:49Speaker 2: birth tourism, where there are people coming into the United
- 7:52Speaker 2: States from China specifically to try to infiltrate our society.
- 7:56Speaker 2: They don't best intentions. They're not just trying to make
- 7:59Speaker 2: a buck or more. They're there to try to get
- 8:01Speaker 2: state secrets from the United States, intellectual property, know how,
- 8:05Speaker 2: wisdom from the United States and bring it to the
- 8:07Speaker 2: CCP and China is a communist nation, which means that
- 8:11Speaker 2: the government is controlling all of it.
- 8:13Speaker 3: There is no private property. It does not exist in
- 8:16Speaker 3: the CCP.
- 8:17Speaker 2: It only exists at the extent that it is allowed
- 8:21Speaker 2: for by the Communist Party.
- 8:22Speaker 3: When they choose to do so. It's up to the paulp.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Buro in China whether or not you have any property
- 8:29Speaker 2: rights whatsoever. Any freedom whatsoever is a gift from them.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Doesn't come from.
- 8:34Speaker 3: God, as we believe it does in the United States.
- 8:37Speaker 2: So once you understand that, then why are we doing
- 8:39Speaker 2: so much commerce with them without assurances? That weird people
- 8:43Speaker 2: thinking through those realities.
- 8:45Speaker 3: And that's what Scott Beston's doing.
- 8:46Speaker 2: When you come back from the break, I'll play even
- 8:47Speaker 2: more how this ties in with Iran. But he was
- 8:50Speaker 2: touting our navy the most active it's been since World
- 8:53Speaker 2: War Two, he said. He was talking about precision blockades
- 8:56Speaker 2: of these ports. And then now Iran basically is down
- 8:59Speaker 2: to one client for their oil, which is China. So
- 9:02Speaker 2: they sell a lot to China, but that can only
- 9:04Speaker 2: sustain them for so long. Around their military is not
- 9:07Speaker 2: getting paid, half their truth not getting paid. They were
- 9:09Speaker 2: in a position where they had shut off the Internet.
- 9:12Speaker 2: All this shows you that even though this war has
- 9:14Speaker 2: been messy in many ways, we wish would be over
- 9:17Speaker 2: by now. We wish the gas prices would be coming down.
- 9:19Speaker 2: There's been so many victories and we're gonna tout them.
- 9:22Speaker 2: You're in the Hwitt Show. I'm Alex marlow In for Hughes.
- 9:24Speaker 2: See here for three hours, looking forward to the rest
- 9:26Speaker 2: of the show. We'll be right back with more shoe all.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Right, Alex marlow In for Youugh.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Today, Byron York is on with me, chief political correspondent
- 9:42Speaker 2: for The Washington examin our Fox News contributor. He also
- 9:45Speaker 2: hosts the Byron York Show podcast. Byron Great to have
- 9:48Speaker 2: you back. I want to talk to you about a
- 9:50Speaker 2: number of topics today, but I want to start with
- 9:52Speaker 2: getting your overall take on Iran. It feels like every
- 9:55Speaker 2: other day, it feels like we're about to get peace.
- 9:57Speaker 2: We're deep in a war.
- 9:59Speaker 3: What do you think of the sticking points right now?
- 10:01Speaker 2: And I heard the President I played a clip for
- 10:03Speaker 2: the audience just before the break, summing up where we're at,
- 10:06Speaker 2: and basically he thinks he's gotten them to commit to
- 10:08Speaker 2: no nukes.
- 10:08Speaker 5: Ever.
- 10:09Speaker 2: That seems like the biggest ask and they got to
- 10:11Speaker 2: open up the straight But other than that, do we
- 10:13Speaker 2: know what's being negotiated at the moment?
- 10:16Speaker 5: No, we don't, and that's I mean, that's the biggest problem.
- 10:18Speaker 5: And first of all, we never seem to know whether
- 10:20Speaker 5: the negotiations are even going on at all. So, you know,
- 10:26Speaker 5: in the last few hours or earlier today, we've had
- 10:28Speaker 5: a round say no, we're not doing it, and Trump's saying, well,
- 10:31Speaker 5: you know, it wouldn't be a bad idea to stop.
- 10:33Speaker 5: It was getting kind of boring, and then he's saying, no,
- 10:35Speaker 5: they're going on, and so it's you know, it's really
- 10:39Speaker 5: really unclear, and I think a lot of people may
- 10:41Speaker 5: have an attitude who kind of, you know, want to
- 10:43Speaker 5: keep calling me when you when you get something settled, right.
- 10:48Speaker 2: So part of it is the nature of Iran is
- 10:50Speaker 2: notoriously difficult to negotiate with their tough negotiators. They've had
- 10:54Speaker 2: their top leadership completely wiped out, de capitated, and they
- 10:57Speaker 2: also move very slowly. So this is something that is
- 11:00Speaker 2: just completely anathema to the way Donald Trump behaves. But overall,
- 11:04Speaker 2: we want to wrap this thing up. But do you
- 11:07Speaker 2: see any possibility of this happening in short order, when
- 11:09Speaker 2: Iran knows they're reading American media and they know the
- 11:12Speaker 2: longer this thing drags out, the more of a problem
- 11:15Speaker 2: that is for President Trump.
- 11:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see something really fast happening. I mean,
- 11:20Speaker 5: what we were hearing a while back was that there
- 11:24Speaker 5: would be this two step process in which Iran would
- 11:29Speaker 5: reopen the strait, the United States would dispense with its blockade,
- 11:34Speaker 5: and then they would move on and come to a
- 11:36Speaker 5: final agreement about the Iran excuse me, the nuclear material,
- 11:41Speaker 5: which would involve the physical removal of the enriched uranium.
- 11:47Speaker 5: Now the problem with that was they were claiming, as
- 11:52Speaker 5: you remember, it was no dust, no dollars policy. That is,
- 11:56Speaker 5: until Iran actually hands over this stuff they don't get in,
- 12:00Speaker 5: then sanctions relief in any relief from the United States.
- 12:05Speaker 5: Problem with that is if you do lift the blockade.
- 12:08Speaker 5: Remember the President has praised the blockade is the Americans
- 12:12Speaker 5: basically premier instrument in putting pressure on Iran. He said
- 12:18Speaker 5: it was costing around five hundred million dollars a day.
- 12:21Speaker 5: So if you lift the blockade, you're giving them five
- 12:23Speaker 5: hundred million dollars in relief per day. And I think
- 12:27Speaker 5: that enormously reduces the incentive for then for Iran to
- 12:32Speaker 5: then go on to a nuclear agreement. So, you know,
- 12:36Speaker 5: I still have not seen anything that makes me think
- 12:40Speaker 5: Iran is really serious about the kind of nuclear agreement
- 12:44Speaker 5: that Trump is demanding.
- 12:46Speaker 2: So what do you say to a sort of pro
- 12:48Speaker 2: Trump audience that would like to see this win happen?
- 12:52Speaker 2: But it knows times of the essence to make sure
- 12:54Speaker 2: that we're starting to claw back anyone who may have
- 12:57Speaker 2: left the coalition over this before the mid terms, because again,
- 13:00Speaker 2: we've got to beat the democraft. You've got to win
- 13:02Speaker 2: in the midterms. What's the proper messaging do you think
- 13:05Speaker 2: out of the White House right now?
- 13:09Speaker 5: Sorry, I don't know.
- 13:12Speaker 6: I gotta ask the.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Same question last week, and I think I said, I
- 13:14Speaker 3: don't know.
- 13:15Speaker 5: We're in the same Okay, well, good, we're in agreement here.
- 13:19Speaker 5: You know, the President has from the very first, beginning
- 13:22Speaker 5: on February twenty eighth, the President said this would be
- 13:25Speaker 5: really short, really short. It's going to be very brief,
- 13:28Speaker 5: instid he predicted, you know, a few weeks, and he's
- 13:32Speaker 5: since since his predictions ran out, he's been saying that
- 13:36Speaker 5: the talks are moving forward, and an agreement is imminent.
- 13:39Speaker 5: It's very soon. We're just working out the last stuff.
- 13:42Speaker 5: The President has seemed a little desperate to get a
- 13:46Speaker 5: settlement here, but I think the one thing to do
- 13:50Speaker 5: is to go to stick with the core goal here,
- 13:54Speaker 5: the core demand here, which is that Iran cannot have
- 13:57Speaker 5: a nuclear weapon. All this other stuff is kind of
- 14:00Speaker 5: secondary to Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. And also personally,
- 14:06Speaker 5: I think, and I've said this is before this started,
- 14:09Speaker 5: I don't think there's a forever solution to that problem.
- 14:12Speaker 5: I think that you set them back for ten years
- 14:15Speaker 5: and then you keep an eye on them. Yeah, and
- 14:17Speaker 5: then you set them back again later on if you
- 14:19Speaker 5: have to. But the point is Iran doesn't get a
- 14:23Speaker 5: nuclear weapon. But there is no forever solution. And I
- 14:26Speaker 5: don't think you should make the perfect the enemy the
- 14:28Speaker 5: good here. If you have set them back a long way,
- 14:33Speaker 5: then that's good, all right.
- 14:35Speaker 2: So he did say though I know he say he's
- 14:37Speaker 2: looking desperate, but he did tweet at one am or
- 14:39Speaker 2: truth bomb at one am. Just sit back and relax
- 14:41Speaker 2: and it will all work out in the end. So
- 14:44Speaker 2: certainly not true thing desperate, all right. I went to Gears,
- 14:47Speaker 2: I want to talk about grand platter tough weekend for
- 14:50Speaker 2: a Platner. For the sake of time, I won't summarize
- 14:52Speaker 2: all the stuff that happened. I'll do that a little
- 14:54Speaker 2: bit later in the show. But what is going on
- 14:57Speaker 2: in Maine?
- 14:59Speaker 5: Well, you know, there was there was a time he
- 15:02Speaker 5: was asked, you know, just to make sure there's there's like,
- 15:05Speaker 5: there's no skeletons in your closet that they're going to
- 15:07Speaker 5: be coming out later in the campaign, are there? And said,
- 15:09Speaker 5: oh no, absolutely not. Uh So now we we we
- 15:14Speaker 5: have these these sex text these sexts to some number
- 15:19Speaker 5: of women, described as several or multiple depending on what
- 15:23Speaker 5: UH news reports you're reading. One thing I find very interesting,
- 15:29Speaker 5: UH is that despite significant length reporting in the Wall
- 15:34Speaker 5: Street Journal and the New York Times, I think also
- 15:36Speaker 5: on NBC, UH some of whom I think have seen
- 15:41Speaker 5: these texts, we haven't seen any quotes from any of them.
- 15:44Speaker 5: What has even you know, what what is he saying
- 15:48Speaker 5: to these women? And if you remember, there have been
- 15:50Speaker 5: a number of cases in which people accused Donald Trump
- 15:54Speaker 5: of of you know, being bortish with women, and we
- 16:00Speaker 5: got quotes and we could kind of evaluate, you know
- 16:03Speaker 5: that was right, not good. But we haven't here, so
- 16:07Speaker 5: I think there's still a lot more to find out.
- 16:09Speaker 5: You know, I don't believe Platner has become the official
- 16:13Speaker 5: Democratic nominee, and I do think they're Republicans in Vaine
- 16:17Speaker 5: who wouldn't mind getting past that line. In other words,
- 16:21Speaker 5: when Democrats are officially stuck with Platner and then dumping
- 16:26Speaker 5: you know, the best oppo that they have on him,
- 16:30Speaker 5: But they've made some.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Of the excuses for his Nazi tattoo.
- 16:33Speaker 2: Byron, I haven't been around. I think I think you've
- 16:36Speaker 2: got a little long career than I have. But I've
- 16:37Speaker 2: been in this game for eighteen years. I didn't know
- 16:40Speaker 2: you could survive having a Nazi tattoo and go on
- 16:42Speaker 2: to serve in the Senate.
- 16:43Speaker 5: Well, it does seem to be. I got to say
- 16:46Speaker 5: I would have been surprised too. But I'm looking right
- 16:47Speaker 5: now at the willkro Politics average of polls last five poles.
- 16:57Speaker 5: They're all blue, and Platner is up and average points unbelievable.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Well, I'm more of when come back hanging with me
- 17:04Speaker 2: after the break, I'm going to ask you about the
- 17:05Speaker 2: weaponization fund. I'm going to ask you about the America
- 17:07Speaker 2: two fifty. We got a lot more to do in
- 17:09Speaker 2: a few more minutes with Byron York after.
- 17:10Speaker 3: This all right, Byron? You works with me?
- 17:19Speaker 2: From Washington Examiner, Fox News, et cetera. Byron, A couple
- 17:22Speaker 2: other quick ones. I want to get to you with
- 17:24Speaker 2: you before we run out of time here today. According
- 17:26Speaker 2: to Axios, I haven't verified it yet myself, but Mark
- 17:29Speaker 2: Capudo usually get some right, said that the Weaponization Fund
- 17:32Speaker 2: is dying. I think a lot of people were huge
- 17:35Speaker 2: victims of weaponization by our government, by our judicial system.
- 17:38Speaker 3: But I didn't love the way this was shaping up
- 17:40Speaker 3: to me. But what's your take.
- 17:41Speaker 5: Here, Well, I would agree with you with that. I
- 17:45Speaker 5: didn't like the way it looked. Now. It's true that
- 17:49Speaker 5: the US government has has settled many lawsuits and many
- 17:52Speaker 5: complaints over the years, and people didn't go crazy about it.
- 17:58Speaker 5: So I think perhaps people there was a bit too
- 18:01Speaker 5: much brua about it. On the other hand, I thought
- 18:05Speaker 5: it was as Trump conceived it, it was far too broad.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, and so do you have a
- 18:12Speaker 2: quick recommendation on what would be a better way to
- 18:14Speaker 2: pursue actual justice for some people who were targeted politically,
- 18:17Speaker 2: but this just case, Yeah, case by case.
- 18:21Speaker 5: I mean there are some people clearly there there are
- 18:25Speaker 5: a few J six defendants who I think Luca were
- 18:28Speaker 5: really mistreated by the justice system. Obviously, Trump himself got
- 18:32Speaker 5: all these indictments, and the reason he got started with
- 18:36Speaker 5: this was his lawsuit with the fact that the Biden
- 18:40Speaker 5: administration leaked his federal tax returns, which is a big
- 18:45Speaker 5: time crime. So I think a case by case basis
- 18:49Speaker 5: would be it.
- 18:51Speaker 3: All right.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Last one could be a bigger topic. But you quick
- 18:55Speaker 2: thought on the great American state fair concept, which is.
- 19:00Speaker 3: Shaping up.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I gotta say it's not shaping up. They didn't have
- 19:02Speaker 2: great bookings to begin with, and a lot of those
- 19:04Speaker 2: have backed out. I want I want to endless summer
- 19:07Speaker 2: of celebrating our country Byron, it's not happening as of now.
- 19:11Speaker 2: It feels like a misopportunity so far.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's been kind of embarrassing. I mean,
- 19:16Speaker 5: you think when Milli Vanilli pulls out, you think, oh
- 19:19Speaker 5: my god, what's going on? Lots of them, lots of
- 19:23Speaker 5: them have pulled out. So I actually wrote something about
- 19:26Speaker 5: this on on X over the weekend. We've got a
- 19:29Speaker 5: lot of response. Actually, and basically, I think the whole
- 19:34Speaker 5: idea of the Great American Fair, which basically consumes the
- 19:36Speaker 5: whole mall each state is represented. You see the economies
- 19:40Speaker 5: and the local cultures of each state. I think that's
- 19:42Speaker 5: a good idea. I think that they should forget the
- 19:46Speaker 5: whole celebrity thing. Republicans have always come out losers in
- 19:50Speaker 5: the celebrity battle, and it's been doubly so with Trump.
- 19:54Speaker 5: So just forget about trying to get stars. As far
- 19:57Speaker 5: as music is concerned, I think you feature US military
- 20:01Speaker 5: bands and orchestras. There are a whole bunch of them,
- 20:04Speaker 5: and they are very, very good. The one thing you
- 20:07Speaker 5: do turbo charge is the fireworks show on July fourth, uh.
- 20:13Speaker 5: And then you have a proud President Trump, not playing
- 20:16Speaker 5: an upfront role, but as the president now.
- 20:18Speaker 3: He shows up and he applies.
- 20:21Speaker 7: This.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is the approach and I like it. Byron,
- 20:25Speaker 2: And thanks for the great suggestions. Thanks for the time
- 20:27Speaker 2: on the Huit Show today. Appreciate you. My friend guys,
- 20:30Speaker 2: quickly the Prison Fellowship Angel Tree Camps.
- 20:32Speaker 3: He's been talking about this. This is cool stuff.
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- 21:06Speaker 2: That explanation from brim Plattner just keeps ringing in my
- 21:08Speaker 2: ear of how he represents a realistic form of masculinity,
- 21:12Speaker 2: the form of masculinity that has erotic fantasies about the
- 21:16Speaker 2: blue liquid in the porta potties. It's I gotta say,
- 21:19Speaker 2: though it's certainly quintessentially masculine. I couldn't have one of
- 21:22Speaker 2: these conversations with my spouse. I couldn't explain the Nazi tattoo,
- 21:26Speaker 2: couldn't explain the porta potty fetish. I couldn't explain the
- 21:28Speaker 2: sexting of other women. I couldn't explain the predator rap
- 21:31Speaker 2: kick where you've got some sort of a profile on there,
- 21:34Speaker 2: the even deleted. How could you just one of those
- 21:36Speaker 2: would be devastating, It would haunt me for infinity, and
- 21:39Speaker 2: this guy's would do this like every other weekend. It's
- 21:41Speaker 2: another thing with him. But he could be heading in
- 21:43Speaker 2: the Senate in Maine if the polls are to be believed.
- 21:46Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, maybe there's somebody wh doesn't believe
- 21:48Speaker 2: the poles and that's Jane at Mills.
- 21:49Speaker 3: Bradley. Jay's with me.
- 21:50Speaker 2: He's my political editor at Bryport News. Bradley, you tease
- 21:54Speaker 2: something pretty spicy before the break of what's going on.
- 22:00Speaker 7: Yeah, Janet Mills hasn't made a public statement, at least
- 22:02Speaker 7: from her campaign account, since she, I almost said, dropped
- 22:07Speaker 7: out of the race. She's now saying that that's not true.
- 22:09Speaker 7: She only suspended her campaign, but this was in April.
- 22:12Speaker 7: All of a sudden. Now her campaign account is active again.
- 22:15Speaker 7: She's saying that she only suspended her campaign. She told
- 22:19Speaker 7: voters that her name is still on the ballot. She
- 22:23Speaker 7: could she be preparing to unsuspend and restart that campaign.
- 22:27Speaker 7: I certainly hope. So.
- 22:28Speaker 3: There are a few.
- 22:29Speaker 7: Democrat activists who I'm sure would be encouraging her to
- 22:32Speaker 7: do so. But Graham Plattner sure it ain't going.
- 22:34Speaker 8: To roll over.
- 22:35Speaker 7: So we might be seeing an actual primary fight developing
- 22:40Speaker 7: just five weeks or so. After it looked like Platner
- 22:42Speaker 7: had shut it down.
- 22:44Speaker 2: Very interesting, Yeah, very interesting indeed. And so let me
- 22:48Speaker 2: ask you about some of the polling because real clear politics,
- 22:52Speaker 2: and they've got a real clear Polley. I guess they're
- 22:54Speaker 2: branding it now, which is they do the poll of polls.
- 22:57Speaker 2: I'm looking through this far when you're pouring this out
- 22:59Speaker 2: earlier on the show, and not all of these are fresh,
- 23:02Speaker 2: but it's the only one of these is remotely fresh
- 23:05Speaker 2: University New Hampshire. But Platner's showing unbelievable resilience here in
- 23:09Speaker 2: this race. And it is one of these things where
- 23:12Speaker 2: does character matter at all anymore in American politics?
- 23:14Speaker 3: Or do we actually see or.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Is it that these polls are just way off because
- 23:18Speaker 2: Platner is up eight percent according to these polling average
- 23:21Speaker 2: and Susan Collins, Yeah, man can.
- 23:25Speaker 7: Be a difficult state the poll and you always run
- 23:29Speaker 7: the risk anytime you're like the NRSC or some Washington
- 23:33Speaker 7: based group. It's so clear that a lot of this
- 23:36Speaker 7: opposition research is coming from either Republicans or establishment Democrats.
- 23:43Speaker 8: You run the risk of.
- 23:44Speaker 7: Maybe turning off some folks and maybe getting his base
- 23:47Speaker 7: even more energized behind him, But I mean, we're so
- 23:50Speaker 7: far out.
- 23:51Speaker 8: It's what the first of June.
- 23:53Speaker 7: Right now, I don't think it's going to hold. And
- 23:55Speaker 7: if you look at from everything we're hearing, we're only
- 23:58Speaker 7: going to continue to hear more and more stuff about
- 24:01Speaker 7: this guy. I mean every day, multiple times per day,
- 24:05Speaker 7: there's been more come out about this guy. So you
- 24:07Speaker 7: got to think that we're going to hear more, and
- 24:10Speaker 7: I just don't think that his polling is going to
- 24:13Speaker 7: hold even if Mills gets in. I certainly think that
- 24:18Speaker 7: Susan Collins is excited to run against him after what
- 24:22Speaker 7: we've seen. She's excited to run against him in November.
- 24:26Speaker 2: This is what's interesting to me because I was thinking
- 24:28Speaker 2: about the concept of polling itself, because I'm out here
- 24:31Speaker 2: in California where everyone's highly anticipating what's going to happen
- 24:35Speaker 2: orrow in the primary race for la mayor and for
- 24:37Speaker 2: the governor, because we got jungle primary systems. So we
- 24:40Speaker 2: could have a day where perhaps Spencer Pratter and Steve
- 24:44Speaker 2: Hilton the governor race, with running as Republicans, they could
- 24:47Speaker 2: perhaps overperform in the polls, and then we could really
- 24:51Speaker 2: feel like we're inspired heading in towards November, which would
- 24:53Speaker 2: be great for whatever. Down ticket races are still reasonable
- 24:56Speaker 2: out here in California. But the question is are Republicans
- 25:01Speaker 2: responding to polsters in California. I don't know the answer
- 25:04Speaker 2: to that. I do want your thought on that, Bradley,
- 25:06Speaker 2: And do we feel like what is the culture in
- 25:09Speaker 2: terms of participating and those sorts of things throughout the country.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Do we have a sense of how to handicap any
- 25:15Speaker 2: of these races right now?
- 25:18Speaker 7: Well, it's the same conversation that we had in twenty
- 25:21Speaker 7: sixteen after Trump won against what all of the polls
- 25:24Speaker 7: had showed. Look, there's no second place award in politics.
- 25:28Speaker 7: It's either the White House or the outhouse. As they say.
- 25:32Speaker 7: If you look at how Spencer Pratt's messaging has been
- 25:37Speaker 7: embraced or at the very least acknowledged in LA in
- 25:41Speaker 7: that Mayle race, that certainly is noteworthy.
- 25:45Speaker 8: I don't know whether he'll win or not.
- 25:47Speaker 7: He's got so much going up against him in LA. However,
- 25:51Speaker 7: the fact that his campaign has garnered so much attention,
- 25:54Speaker 7: I think the Republicans should be enthused about that heading
- 25:59Speaker 7: into November. I mean, look, Democrats, we know how Democrats are.
- 26:03Speaker 7: They care if you look at Mayor Bass, she talks
- 26:07Speaker 7: a lot about pronouns, but never about actual potholes or
- 26:10Speaker 7: anything that a mayor should be concerned with. I think
- 26:14Speaker 7: that most voters, whether you're Angelino's or wherever you are
- 26:18Speaker 7: in the country, most voters want the same thing. They
- 26:22Speaker 7: want a safe and secure community for their kids. They
- 26:25Speaker 7: want some financial stability. But that's not what the Democrats
- 26:30Speaker 7: are offering them. I mean, if you're Mayor Bass, what
- 26:32Speaker 7: does it matter if your house is DEI certified if
- 26:35Speaker 7: it's been burned to the ground. Yet, that's how out
- 26:37Speaker 7: of touch these are these Democrats are.
- 26:39Speaker 8: So it's very encouraging.
- 26:41Speaker 7: I think for November that so many Angelinos have been
- 26:45Speaker 7: acknowledging that, you know what, maybe this isn't working what
- 26:51Speaker 7: the Mayor Bass and Democrats are offering, and they're at
- 26:53Speaker 7: least willing to listen to what he's saying.
- 26:57Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting test case and I can't wait
- 27:00Speaker 2: to see how it turns out. But it's not about potholes.
- 27:02Speaker 2: The race is actually about bike lanes. Duayne, will you
- 27:04Speaker 2: play this cup for me? Cup fourteen?
- 27:06Speaker 3: Please? This is Niche Ramen.
- 27:09Speaker 6: I have two little kids. Yeah, they didn't see it
- 27:13Speaker 6: luckily this morning. But you know, I'm I feel badly
- 27:17Speaker 6: that that I'm even subjecting them to that at all.
- 27:21Speaker 6: But it has definitely this has gone far beyond, far
- 27:28Speaker 6: beyond what I expected the campaign to be about. I
- 27:31Speaker 6: again thought it would be about bike lanes and management
- 27:33Speaker 6: of the Department of Transportation.
- 27:37Speaker 2: The city nearly burned down. There's homeless encampments everywhere. The
- 27:41Speaker 2: city's flooded with drugs. It's completely unpleasant, it's filthy. There
- 27:45Speaker 2: are just there's earth movers idling off the side of
- 27:48Speaker 2: every other freeway. The airport is the worse in the country.
- 27:51Speaker 2: And yet this was supposed to be about bike lanes.
- 27:54Speaker 2: And this is a person who's already on the city
- 27:55Speaker 2: council as a communist Democrat. I just feel badly, if
- 27:59Speaker 2: you like, Republicans have got to be absolutely licking their chops.
- 28:02Speaker 2: I don't know if LA salvagable, but they've got to
- 28:04Speaker 2: be feeling way better than they deserve to feel heading
- 28:07Speaker 2: into November.
- 28:10Speaker 7: I mean, it's so obvious now that the Democrat Party
- 28:13Speaker 7: is increasingly the party of the elites.
- 28:15Speaker 8: I mean, how.
- 28:16Speaker 7: Touch can can this woman be with everything that's going
- 28:19Speaker 7: on in La. It's remarkable how California has squandered manifest
- 28:24Speaker 7: destiny in so many ways with all these liberal policies,
- 28:28Speaker 7: and yet she and elites.
- 28:30Speaker 8: Like her are disobliviates to hopefully voted number.
- 28:35Speaker 3: Proudly, Jay sa with you one more segment.
- 28:36Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you about the America two fifty
- 28:38Speaker 2: celebrations and other races you're tracking tomorrow for our election day.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Bright Bart News will be right back on the Huge
- 28:43Speaker 2: Show with Marlowe.
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- 30:17Speaker 5: Right.
- 30:17Speaker 2: Wynton Hall's our social media director at Brypartnews, and he's
- 30:21Speaker 2: also the New York Times bestselling author of the book
- 30:23Speaker 2: Code Read, The Left, The Right, China and the Race
- 30:26Speaker 2: to Control AI. Wynton and I have had a number
- 30:28Speaker 2: of conversations on my podcast and on the Alex Marlow Show.
- 30:31Speaker 2: But I want to introduce him to the Euqwitt audience
- 30:34Speaker 2: because I think that this is the guy on the
- 30:36Speaker 2: right who understands the nuances of the AI revolution and
- 30:40Speaker 2: where we all fit into this. Winton, we spent a
- 30:43Speaker 2: lot of time complaining about AI, and I'm certainly more
- 30:45Speaker 2: nervous about it than not. It feels like when we
- 30:48Speaker 2: had the advent of the Internet, seemed like it opened
- 30:50Speaker 2: up all sorts of possibilities, but apparently it opened up
- 30:53Speaker 2: a lot of us to social media addictions and widespread
- 30:56Speaker 2: depression and sort of a lack of meeting and a
- 30:58Speaker 2: lot of people's lives and increased godlessness. So it sort
- 31:01Speaker 2: of backfired in a lot of ways. I'm worried AI
- 31:03Speaker 2: could be the same thing. But there are some positive
- 31:06Speaker 2: stuff that's coming out of it, and I'm just going
- 31:08Speaker 2: to start with some of that is just a flat
- 31:09Speaker 2: out positive. These Spencer Pratt ads in Los Angeles are
- 31:13Speaker 2: an absolute delight.
- 31:14Speaker 3: We played one last hour.
- 31:15Speaker 2: I don't want to take the time to play more now,
- 31:18Speaker 2: but they're making these ads overnight that are just hilarious.
- 31:21Speaker 2: They look sharp, and it feels like there's really low
- 31:23Speaker 2: barrier of entry to do these things, and it just
- 31:27Speaker 2: does neutralize the playing field. That equalizes the playing field
- 31:31Speaker 2: for people who might not you know, have a tens
- 31:34Speaker 2: of million dollar war chats at their disposal to do
- 31:36Speaker 2: things like that.
- 31:40Speaker 8: No, that's exactly right.
- 31:42Speaker 9: You know, when you look at the democratization of creativity,
- 31:45Speaker 9: that's one of the upshots.
- 31:46Speaker 8: This is going to be a huge boon.
- 31:48Speaker 9: For the new new candidates and campaigns. And one of
- 31:53Speaker 9: the things that you see in this you're getting, you know,
- 31:55Speaker 9: really pretty strong production values. Some of these were actually
- 31:58Speaker 9: a little sharper than others, maybe not Spielberg level, but
- 32:03Speaker 9: it will be there soon. The worst version of AI
- 32:05Speaker 9: is the one you use today. So we're going to
- 32:07Speaker 9: see that and it's going to reduce those barriers to
- 32:10Speaker 9: entry in terms of campaigns they're war chests and how
- 32:13Speaker 9: much money they're gonna have to spend to get.
- 32:14Speaker 8: Their message out.
- 32:15Speaker 9: You couple that with a really smart influencer strategy on
- 32:18Speaker 9: social which Pratt has done, you can get your rocket
- 32:23Speaker 9: in flight very quickly.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so that's a good thing.
- 32:28Speaker 2: But does you think it translates to more entertainment value
- 32:31Speaker 2: in in or do we feel like we have any
- 32:33Speaker 2: evidence if this could shape a political campaign, because one
- 32:36Speaker 2: of the things that's interesting about the Pratt Race in
- 32:38Speaker 2: particular is that it's so online.
- 32:40Speaker 3: It's a he's not really doing local media. You know,
- 32:42Speaker 3: he's doing Bill Maher's podcast, he's doing Gutfeld.
- 32:44Speaker 2: I mean, this is a national campaign that we're seeing
- 32:48Speaker 2: and these ai ads and they're not airing on local TV.
- 32:51Speaker 2: I don't think they're mostly just getting viral online. And
- 32:55Speaker 2: the guy's an unbelievable marketer if you follow his story,
- 32:58Speaker 2: he basically came up with the idea for the Hill
- 33:00Speaker 2: when he was sitting in a classroom at USC thinking,
- 33:02Speaker 2: how can we come up with a way to create
- 33:06Speaker 2: some sort of a reality TV show around his friend
- 33:08Speaker 2: Brody Jenner, which is the Caitlyn Jennerson. That was the
- 33:12Speaker 2: whole concept. He was selling crystals for a long time.
- 33:16Speaker 2: He's a crystal salesman. That was his I think he
- 33:19Speaker 2: said the most lucrative thing he's done. Doesn't have a
- 33:21Speaker 2: major political background, but he's got this message discipline where
- 33:24Speaker 2: he tries to make the campaign about competence and not
- 33:27Speaker 2: about anything other than just the government should do something productive.
- 33:33Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think it's hyper visual storytelling, and obviously
- 33:36Speaker 9: with all of the dystopian mistakes that you've seen from
- 33:41Speaker 9: Bass and in California and more broadly, there's so many
- 33:44Speaker 9: opportunities to ways to visually storytell, and that's what he's done.
- 33:47Speaker 9: I think it's really a path breaking moment actually, because
- 33:51Speaker 9: what's going to happen is the technology is going to
- 33:53Speaker 9: continue to increase, and we sold that with multiple models
- 33:57Speaker 9: that have come out in the visual space. Costs to
- 34:00Speaker 9: get your message out there will go down, your opportunities
- 34:04Speaker 9: for virality are going to go up. I mean at Breitbart,
- 34:07Speaker 9: obviously we have tons of viral content, spend zero dollars
- 34:10Speaker 9: boosting that. It's all organic, and you know you're going
- 34:13Speaker 9: to see that with a lot of these upstart candidates.
- 34:15Speaker 9: I think it's really important there will be opportunities for
- 34:18Speaker 9: deep bates right right before elections that could give total
- 34:23Speaker 9: lives or bunk or misinformation that could protectively in a
- 34:27Speaker 9: type race, have an impact.
- 34:29Speaker 8: Before they can be debunked more broadly.
- 34:32Speaker 9: But in you know, the longer tail like you're seeing
- 34:34Speaker 9: right now, it's really why he's got you know, the
- 34:37Speaker 9: traction and momentum and the discussion. You've got to be
- 34:39Speaker 9: making that buzz. And you know Andrew Breitbart was the
- 34:42Speaker 9: one who said it. You know, politics is downstream from culture,
- 34:45Speaker 9: and you know, practicing it to the culture.
- 34:49Speaker 2: All right, So wend you know, I got to run
- 34:52Speaker 2: here in a little bit and take a break. But
- 34:53Speaker 2: what I want to set up for you, and I
- 34:54Speaker 2: want the audience to check this out when we come back.
- 34:56Speaker 2: I want to talk about a couple of really essential
- 34:59Speaker 2: things when it comes to AI and how AI is
- 35:01Speaker 2: going to be able to work for us. And I
- 35:04Speaker 2: want some recommendations for what people should be doing. Because
- 35:07Speaker 2: I sat on a panel. I moderated a panel featuring
- 35:09Speaker 2: the Treasury Secretary scottsm on Friday. All these small business owners,
- 35:14Speaker 2: the small business people with construction companies, people who are
- 35:18Speaker 2: you screen printing companies, people who have cleaners, dry cleaners,
- 35:22Speaker 2: they're all using AI. So AI is something that people
- 35:25Speaker 2: are going to need to make work for them. So
- 35:28Speaker 2: it is here is a tool.
- 35:30Speaker 3: You can use it and be respectful to the tool.
- 35:33Speaker 3: But people also see.
- 35:35Speaker 2: This as a major threat, as a major threat to
- 35:37Speaker 2: their businesses.
- 35:39Speaker 3: You'll give them the truth. Wynden Hall, author of Code Red,
- 35:42Speaker 3: whill we come back on the Quit Show.
- 35:53Speaker 2: All right, now it's Marlow and for Hugh, Wynton Hall,
- 35:56Speaker 2: my social media director at Brightbart News, is with me.
- 35:59Speaker 3: Don't forget to check.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Out the Alex Marlow Show wherever you whether it is
- 36:02Speaker 2: live in your radio dial, Salem News channel, or podcasts.
- 36:05Speaker 2: I'm available for you creating way too much content. Some
- 36:08Speaker 2: of the content I'm creating is at bright our News
- 36:11Speaker 2: for our premium members. We had one of our fight
- 36:13Speaker 2: Club roundtables. Fight Club is what we call our premium
- 36:16Speaker 2: subscription service, and we sat down we talked big time
- 36:20Speaker 2: about AI with Wynton Hall, who's got the New York
- 36:22Speaker 2: Times best selling book Code read Out, as well as
- 36:25Speaker 2: Peter Schweitzer and Frances Martel, our World editor and Whintin.
- 36:28Speaker 2: You did something at the end of the roundtable that
- 36:31Speaker 2: I think was really interesting. You sort of laid out
- 36:33Speaker 2: a five point plan for how to survive the AI
- 36:36Speaker 2: apocalypse for lack of a better expression, and you had
- 36:39Speaker 2: a pretty much committed to memory and at the tip
- 36:41Speaker 2: of your fingers, I want to do that here because
- 36:43Speaker 2: a lot of people in this audience, I think, don't
- 36:46Speaker 2: know what to make of this. Are we heading into
- 36:49Speaker 2: something that's going to be just a huge boon for humanity.
- 36:53Speaker 2: We're just going to get more productive, We're going to
- 36:55Speaker 2: get sharper, we're going to get smarter, We're going to
- 36:57Speaker 2: have more time to do the things we want to do.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Are we going to have so much money we don't
- 37:01Speaker 2: know what to do with it? Or is this going
- 37:02Speaker 2: to be one of those things like the Internet where
- 37:04Speaker 2: we just create all sorts of new addictions and terrible
- 37:07Speaker 2: ways to use our time and just lose lose chats
- 37:11Speaker 2: with our humanity?
- 37:12Speaker 3: What is it? And how do we avoid the latter scenario?
- 37:17Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I.
- 37:17Speaker 9: Think the first thing to understand is that ninety nine
- 37:20Speaker 9: percent of us use AI every day, even though sixty
- 37:23Speaker 9: four percent of people don't realize that we're using AI
- 37:26Speaker 9: because it's baked into the algorithms that power everything from
- 37:29Speaker 9: our weather apps to our streaming.
- 37:31Speaker 8: Services and so forth.
- 37:32Speaker 9: So if we're already using it, the question is how
- 37:35Speaker 9: can we seize the upside what I like to call
- 37:37Speaker 9: the roses of.
- 37:38Speaker 8: AI and avert the land mines? And there are many
- 37:41Speaker 8: of both, and so I'm.
- 37:43Speaker 9: Not on the side that says that it's all apocalyptic
- 37:46Speaker 9: doom by any stretch. But we would be absolutely foolish,
- 37:49Speaker 9: particularly conservative, if we thought that the most powerful information
- 37:53Speaker 9: weapon was going to be laid on the battlefield of
- 37:55Speaker 9: ideas and that the left wasn't going to politically weaponize that.
- 37:58Speaker 9: We know that big tech traditionally has not been a
- 38:01Speaker 9: friend of conservatives, with the demonetizing, the silencing, the scan
- 38:05Speaker 9: and band technology and the rest, and the fact that
- 38:08Speaker 9: political donations eighty five percent of Silicon Valley traditionally donations
- 38:12Speaker 9: flow to the left side of the political aisle. I
- 38:16Speaker 9: think the thing important is five things that you mentioned.
- 38:19Speaker 9: Number One, you can learn this. It's not too late,
- 38:23Speaker 9: and do not let anybody tell you that it's so
- 38:25Speaker 9: black box that you're not going to be able to
- 38:27Speaker 9: understand AI. I spent two years working on Code red,
- 38:31Speaker 9: really deep diving into this world to try to make
- 38:33Speaker 9: it simple without being simplistic, and really did an enormous
- 38:37Speaker 9: amount of research to try to give people the lexicon
- 38:40Speaker 9: so that they can understand the debate and be able
- 38:43Speaker 9: to make their own decisions, so they can get those
- 38:45Speaker 9: roses and avert the land mines. I think the second
- 38:47Speaker 9: thing is to understand that if you are an entrepreneur
- 38:51Speaker 9: or a small business owner. There is enormous upside potential
- 38:54Speaker 9: for AI because it's just like we were talking about
- 38:57Speaker 9: with the pract campaign. It's lowering the cost to of
- 39:00Speaker 9: entry for a lot of the kinds of investments you
- 39:03Speaker 9: otherwise wouldn't be able to make, and you can scale
- 39:05Speaker 9: very quickly and seize that upside. I think the third thing,
- 39:09Speaker 9: and this is really important because nothing that we care
- 39:12Speaker 9: about more than our kids, our grandkids, and our nation's children,
- 39:16Speaker 9: the world's children, and that is understanding that there are
- 39:19Speaker 9: a lot of benefits for things like AI tutors if
- 39:22Speaker 9: they are non etagogically sound and they are based on
- 39:26Speaker 9: the Socratic method, so they don't enable cheating and plagiarism.
- 39:30Speaker 8: But you also have to be very very aware that all.
- 39:33Speaker 9: Lms large language models in every peer of view journal
- 39:36Speaker 9: skew left, and so there could be very much an
- 39:38Speaker 9: indoctrination place. So we have to be able to use
- 39:42Speaker 9: that tool for the educational benefit without the detriment. I
- 39:47Speaker 9: think the fourth thing is to really understand where this
- 39:49Speaker 9: is going in terms of jobs and also national security.
- 39:53Speaker 9: We're hearing all these apocalyptic projections Dario ami Day saying
- 39:57Speaker 9: that in the next twelve months, Alex, not twelve years,
- 40:00Speaker 9: twelve months. You're looking at a wipe out of fifty
- 40:03Speaker 9: percent of white collar entry level jobs.
- 40:06Speaker 8: That's our kids, that's our grandkids. Those are the kids
- 40:08Speaker 8: that it's worth for college. It is very worrifying. And
- 40:11Speaker 8: this is a man.
- 40:12Speaker 2: And imagine their training for their for their next job.
- 40:15Speaker 2: Like that's the whole point. When you wipe out the
- 40:16Speaker 2: entry level jobs.
- 40:18Speaker 3: Maybe your stock.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Goes up a little bit if you are invested in
- 40:22Speaker 2: a company that's gonna have to.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Not pay as many workers.
- 40:25Speaker 2: But I mean, how is the next generation going to
- 40:29Speaker 2: get any job experience whatsoever?
- 40:32Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's three ways to respond
- 40:35Speaker 9: to these predictions.
- 40:35Speaker 8: It's not just Rio.
- 40:37Speaker 9: It's Mustafa Suliman at Microsoft AI saying twelve to eighteen
- 40:40Speaker 9: months being able to replace one hundred percent of white
- 40:43Speaker 9: collar tasks.
- 40:44Speaker 8: He's not saying all jobs, he's saying the tasks.
- 40:46Speaker 9: And so it'll be dependent upon how fast corporation shoul
- 40:49Speaker 9: difuse the technology. But even Elon Musk says that quote
- 40:53Speaker 9: AI is to quote supersonic tsunami in quote aimed at humanity.
- 40:58Speaker 9: There's three ways to respond to this. You could say
- 41:00Speaker 9: it's all marketing hype. This is a bunch of bladder.
- 41:03Speaker 9: These are guys that have to raise a ton of
- 41:05Speaker 9: capex capital expenditure and investment, and so they're just trying
- 41:09Speaker 9: to hype through technology. The second is to say no,
- 41:12Speaker 9: they're very sincere in wanting to make sure that the
- 41:15Speaker 9: world is ready. But there's a third thing, and I
- 41:18Speaker 9: think this is the thing for the conservative movement that
- 41:20Speaker 9: has to understand. It almost doesn't matter on that point
- 41:23Speaker 9: those first two whether you think it's hype or real,
- 41:26Speaker 9: because the left has been working for years on how
- 41:30Speaker 9: to politically weaponize artificial intelligence for a globalist agenda. And
- 41:36Speaker 9: I'd spend a lot of time going through in their
- 41:38Speaker 9: own words, exposing that in code read so that we
- 41:41Speaker 9: can really be prepared for this five D chess gain.
- 41:44Speaker 9: Fifth and final thing, I think you really want to
- 41:46Speaker 9: think about.
- 41:47Speaker 8: The existential questions. And you is always so great on
- 41:50Speaker 8: this and you are as well.
- 41:52Speaker 9: People of faith have to understand right now there are
- 41:56Speaker 9: churches that are experimenting with confessional booths replacing the priests
- 42:01Speaker 9: that you confess.
- 42:02Speaker 8: To with Ai.
- 42:03Speaker 9: There are churches right now being set up to worship
- 42:06Speaker 9: AI as a deity. And then The other thing is,
- 42:09Speaker 9: even at the more basic level, you're seeing sermons being
- 42:13Speaker 9: written by AI and I think, you know, we can
- 42:16Speaker 9: replace a lot of things, but our soul is sacred,
- 42:20Speaker 9: and so having that awareness of how this is going
- 42:23Speaker 9: to impact faith, I think is a really important piece
- 42:26Speaker 9: as well. But we can be prepared. We just have
- 42:30Speaker 9: to have the information, and we really don't have a
- 42:32Speaker 9: lot of time. This is breaking Moore's law. It's moving
- 42:35Speaker 9: faster than any technological expansion we've ever seen.
- 42:38Speaker 8: So we've got to get ready and not panic but lead.
- 42:43Speaker 2: So but Winton, the main question is is the AI
- 42:46Speaker 2: god that we're confessing to is he or she non binary?
- 42:50Speaker 2: Because that's what James Talerico we'll probably say, Man, Scary
- 42:53Speaker 2: Times is amazing summary, and that's why I recommend everyone
- 42:56Speaker 2: check out Code Read in any of my deeper interviews
- 42:58Speaker 2: with Wynton are fantastic. He's our social media director at
- 43:01Speaker 2: Breitbart News. But Code Read one of the books of
- 43:04Speaker 2: the year, I think because of the fact that he
- 43:06Speaker 2: gets into the not just the future, the present. This
- 43:09Speaker 2: is happening, and we got to win the AI arms
- 43:11Speaker 2: race against China, but we also got to win it
- 43:13Speaker 2: with ourselves and we've got to make sure that our
- 43:15Speaker 2: military gets the best technology from people who are interested
- 43:18Speaker 2: in America winning. And we've got to make sure that
- 43:20Speaker 2: our companies are adapting in a way that doesn't eliminate
- 43:22Speaker 2: entry level.
- 43:23Speaker 3: Jobs for people so complex. Thanks Ntin for the introduction.
- 43:27Speaker 3: I'm Alex. Marla will wrapp things up after we come