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The Plague Is Back | Interview With Mayor Karen Bass · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
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  Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 2: We moved some things around. Thankfully, Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Keeney could join us a little earlier because Mayor
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  Speaker 3: Bass is going to be joining us at the bottom
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  Speaker 3: of the hour.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Doc, how you doing, buddy?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning. How you doing, Neil?
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  Speaker 2: Very, very good. Thanks for being flexible.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're a busy dude, you know, saving lives
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  Speaker 3: or doing whatever doctors do these days. But I thank
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  Speaker 3: you for taking the time to come on. There is
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  Speaker 3: so much medically going on in the news, of course,
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  Speaker 3: bubonic plague, all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What's on your mind, Doc?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, bubonic plague. It's interesting, right? Because, you know, black death.
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  Speaker 4: The plague is something that I think strikes fear in
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  Speaker 4: people's hearts when they hear it. So in this case,
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  Speaker 4: we got a 20-year-old lab worker, 28-year-old lab worker in Russia,
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  Speaker 4: so in Siberia. So this is pretty far removed from
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  Speaker 4: the United States. And she works in a lab where
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  Speaker 4: they deal with dangerous pathogens, including Yersinia pestis, which causes
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  Speaker 4: black plague or pneumonic plague. She had this illness where
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  Speaker 4: she got pneumonia and rapidly died. So that's what raised
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  Speaker 4: the red flag because that's the pattern for pneumonic plague
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  Speaker 4: is that it does create pneumonia and people get sick
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  Speaker 4: pretty quickly. If it's not recognized right away, then they
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  Speaker 4: can die without treatment. It's about 100% fatal without treatment.
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  Speaker 4: So that's a key part to know, because back in
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  Speaker 4: the Black Death days, we didn't have antibiotics. And so
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  Speaker 4: it was 100% fatal. But now we do. And so
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  Speaker 4: if we recognize it early and treat it early, then
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  Speaker 4: people survive. So that's why they've placed 200 contacts that
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  Speaker 4: she had under quarantine and observation. And I would imagine
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  Speaker 4: they're also treating them with prophylactic fluoroquinolones like clindamycin or
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  Speaker 4: something like that to prevent them from getting it. And
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  Speaker 4: we haven't even proven, by the way, that she has
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  Speaker 4: Yersinia pestis. That's the working theory, and they're testing for
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  Speaker 4: it right now.
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  Speaker 3: What brings things like this back to the table? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: things change names. Tuberculosis was the consumption back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: but they still exist. But something like the plague, the
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  Speaker 3: Black Plague, what– Isn't it kind of like a simmering–
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  Speaker 3: there's a simmering necessity of things that have to come
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  Speaker 3: together to produce that again?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 4: So what's different about the plague is it's not really
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  Speaker 4: a human disease, right? It's a rat and flea disease.
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  Speaker 4: And so to eliminate this from rats and fleas everywhere
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  Speaker 4: is just impossible. So that's why we actually have Yersinia
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  Speaker 4: pastoris or the plague in the United States, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in Arizona, New Mexico, parts of Colorado, some parts of California.
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  Speaker 4: The fleas carry that. And so a gentleman died from
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  Speaker 4: the plague a few months ago, I think it was,
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  Speaker 4: in Arizona. And that was because his cat got sick.
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  Speaker 4: Cats hunt rats. If the rat has the plague, the
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  Speaker 4: cat gets the plague. And then he was caring for
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  Speaker 4: an ill cat. And then he can get, if you're
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  Speaker 4: in close contact, you can get the plague from your cat.
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  Speaker 4: So that was their very rare cases. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when he went into hospital, they thought, OK, he either
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  Speaker 4: has septic or he has hantavirus, which is way more common.
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  Speaker 4: So they didn't really treat him for the plague. And
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  Speaker 4: a few days later, he died. And so, yeah, it
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  Speaker 4: exists in nature. It's really through rats and fleas. So
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  Speaker 4: it's it's still exists. And that's why we can't get
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  Speaker 4: rid of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just amazing to me the way it's transferred. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: you say rats, but you have to have the flea
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  Speaker 3: element as well. How do you get it from a cat?
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  Speaker 3: Is it flea transferred as well?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's three kinds of plague, right? There's bubonic plague.
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  Speaker 4: People have heard of that. And a bubo is a
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  Speaker 4: huge swollen lymph node, not just your normal like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I think my lymph node's a little swollen. We're talking massive.
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  Speaker 4: You can see it through the skin. So that's the
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  Speaker 4: classic form is bubonic plague. So you get a flea
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  Speaker 4: bite and then the bacteria travels to the lymph node
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  Speaker 4: and your lymph node cleans it out. That's not fatal.
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  Speaker 4: And they can be extremely painful. Usually, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: get treated at that point. Then the organism can get
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  Speaker 4: into the bloodstream. That's called septic plague. And that can
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  Speaker 4: cause overwhelming sepsis and shock. And that one's bad, much
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  Speaker 4: less common. And then finally, there's pneumonic plague. And that's
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  Speaker 4: when it actually infects the lung. So that can come
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  Speaker 4: through the blood if you have bubonic or septic plague.
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  Speaker 4: But you can also get it through droplets. And we
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  Speaker 4: hear droplets and we panic after COVID, right? Because diseases
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  Speaker 4: like measles and COVID, they're very efficient in aerosolized fluid to,
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  Speaker 4: to float in the air.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But, uh, but Yersinia pestis travels in big, heavy, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of droplets. So it doesn't travel as far. It's
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  Speaker 4: not as easy to get. It doesn't spread as easily
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  Speaker 4: as anywhere near as easily as COVID or measles. And, um,
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  Speaker 4: so it can travel person to person. Once it's in
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  Speaker 4: your lungs, you can cough it up. The other person
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  Speaker 4: inhales it, but, uh, less common.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Did not expect to hear the word buba today. So,
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  Speaker 3: I feel smarter. Sounds like the Baggins brother that nobody
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  Speaker 3: wants to hang out with.
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  Speaker 2: Little Lord of the Rings joke.
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  Speaker 4: Hairy toad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hairy toad. Buba Baggins. Don't let him cough on you.
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  Speaker 3: Doc, so scientists figure it out as they do these
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  Speaker 3: crazy things. They find this light-sensitive protein. It's originally found
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  Speaker 3: in algae. And they find some way to tie it
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  Speaker 3: into human cells.
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  Speaker 2: And, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: Light again for people that don't have sight.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this story is pretty cool because it has so
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  Speaker 4: many cool factors to it. We could talk about it
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  Speaker 4: for quite.
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  Speaker 5: A long time.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, so the Nobel Prize for Physiology and Medicine
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  Speaker 4: was just given to three doctors who essentially used genetics
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  Speaker 4: to introduce a light sensitive protein into electrical cells, right?
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  Speaker 4: And that was a cool development because now we can
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  Speaker 4: turn on and off neurologic cells with light and they
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  Speaker 4: could do studies where once they inject this into a
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  Speaker 4: single neuron or they can now track that neuron, turn
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  Speaker 4: it on and off, study the brain in ways that
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  Speaker 4: we could never study before and discover circuits in the
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  Speaker 4: brain that do different things from motivation, to movement, all
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  Speaker 4: kinds of disorders that we can now investigate. So super
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  Speaker 4: cool technology. But now ophthalmologists have used this. You can
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  Speaker 4: inject it into the eye. You can inject this gene
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  Speaker 4: therapy into the eye. And when you have a retinal
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  Speaker 4: disorder that has resulted in dead retinal cells, so things
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  Speaker 4: like dry macular degeneration, is a disorder that affects millions
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  Speaker 4: of people, and they lose sight because the retinal cells die,
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  Speaker 4: but the nerve cell underneath it is still alive. So
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  Speaker 4: what if you repurpose that nerve cell with using this
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  Speaker 4: technology so that light turns that nerve cell on and off?
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  Speaker 4: You essentially have the same thing you had before as
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  Speaker 4: far as vision, maybe not the same detail, maybe not
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  Speaker 4: the same as far as colors and all that type
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  Speaker 4: of thing. But you can now see and they've shown
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  Speaker 4: in one disease that it's irreversible. that they can now
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  Speaker 4: reverse it and improve vision in people who have a disease.
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  Speaker 4: So that was a phase one, basically a safety clinical trial.
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  Speaker 4: And that's enough evidence now to move this into a
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  Speaker 4: phase two clinical trial to see like dosing and what
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  Speaker 4: we need to do and how effective it actually is.
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  Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, learning these paths of learning how something breaks
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  Speaker 3: down and trying to reverse that in a way that is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, beneficial like that just blows me away. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the type of science that we should be getting
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  Speaker 3: excited about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so this was a strange one.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier this week, we talked about how young people, the
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  Speaker 3: newest generation, is turning away from vaping and certain things
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  Speaker 3: like that and going back to smoking. which freaked me
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  Speaker 3: out because as a father of a nine-year-old, I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: at least I can cross smoking off the list because
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty much faded away in California.
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  Speaker 2: And then it starts coming back.
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  Speaker 3: There is this trial going on right now about paying
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  Speaker 3: people to quit smoking with some surprising results.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us more about that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it doesn't take much, right, to get to
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  Speaker 4: motivate people to quit smoking. You know, they told us
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  Speaker 4: in med school, when family members ask somebody to quit smoking,
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  Speaker 4: it's very low success rate. If somebody with a white
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  Speaker 4: lab coat, like a doctor, walks in the room and explains,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is really going to impact your health.
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  Speaker 4: Would you like to see your grandchildren, you know, graduate
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  Speaker 4: from high school? Would you like to see your kids
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  Speaker 4: get married and have grandchildren? You know, there's reasons you
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  Speaker 4: may want to live longer and live a quality life. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, smoking cessation would be a good thing for you.
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  Speaker 4: People quit way more often when a doctor asks. But
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  Speaker 4: now add your wallet into this. And do people quit
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  Speaker 4: smoking when you pay them? It turns out the study
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  Speaker 4: showed for as little as $ 600, you tell somebody, hey,
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  Speaker 4: if you can remain smoke-free for a certain period of time,
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  Speaker 4: say six months or a year, and you have to
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  Speaker 4: be able to test in the blood whether there's any
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  Speaker 4: breakdown products of tobacco, people will quit smoking for $ 600.
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  Speaker 4: And the amount of money you'll save in health care
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  Speaker 4: is astronomical.
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  Speaker 3: Have you heard about the new trend of younger people
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  Speaker 3: taking up smoking again?
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  Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, I have, because it's not so much, it's
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  Speaker 6: not so much burning, you know, tobacco. It is a
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  Speaker 6: lot more, you know, the zins, the, the packets, uh,
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  Speaker 6: and it's, it's also been kind of, you know, like, uh,
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  Speaker 6: the maxing, the kind of thing that we're seeing, everybody
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  Speaker 6: wants to do brain maxing and, uh, and it's, it's
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  Speaker 6: considered a nootropic, right. It makes you smarter, that type
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  Speaker 6: of thing. Any There's some studies that show maybe a
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  Speaker 6: teeny tiny difference in attention span for someone who doesn't
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  Speaker 6: do it regularly and who uses it once. Your focus
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  Speaker 6: may improve for a little bit and only by a
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  Speaker 6: small margin, but it's so highly addictive. It's not such
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  Speaker 6: a great tradeoff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 3: It kind of scares me because the reality was in
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  Speaker 3: the early days, you had doctors in white lab coats
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  Speaker 3: in the ads saying, And then you had famous people
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  Speaker 3: all over the place, and we didn't know any better.
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  Speaker 2: And now we do.
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  Speaker 3: And the thought of bringing back and having to go
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  Speaker 3: over that battle again just seems like, I don't know, just.
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  Speaker 2: A complete reversal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. It went from smoking was cool, smoking
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  Speaker 4: was good, to then smoking was bad. That took forever
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  Speaker 4: to convince people. And now we're back to nicotine is good,
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  Speaker 4: and people are using it as a wellness drug. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: that to me is crazy.
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  Speaker 6: Nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Doc, always a pleasure to talk to you, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll hear from you again next week.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Take care.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Jim Keeney, ladies and gentlemen, we have a special guest
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  Speaker 3: right now. The mayor of Los Angeles herself, Mayor Karen Bass.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the morning show here on KFI.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 3: No, I really appreciate it. The last minute for you
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  Speaker 3: to take the time. Obviously, there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: to be thrilled about right now in Los Angeles, including
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers go blue. And then there's a battle, a
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  Speaker 3: battle for the direction of Los Angeles. We're all keeping
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  Speaker 3: our eyes and ears peeled as we inch closer to
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  Speaker 3: the election. I'm not going to say that I voted
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  Speaker 3: for you because I didn't. I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 3: that I've loved everything you've done, but I will tell
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  Speaker 3: you this. I am voting for you, and Los Angeles
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  Speaker 3: knows you.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: And I want everybody listening to KFI and the diverse
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  Speaker 3: audience that we have, and very vocal, as you know,
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  Speaker 3: that I want them to know as we get into
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  Speaker 3: this story about fascism, first of all, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: you've learned some things. What are some things that you
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  Speaker 3: learned from KFI? you're currently doing what you're doing and
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  Speaker 3: that you want to bring to your next reign, fingers crossed,
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  Speaker 3: of Los Angeles and all the nooks and crannies we
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  Speaker 3: have here.
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  Speaker 5: Well, absolutely. I appreciate that. And I will tell you
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  Speaker 5: that first and foremost, my job as mayor is to
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  Speaker 5: keep the city safe in every way. And so if
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  Speaker 5: there was anything that we learned, I think you saw
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  Speaker 5: the report that came out last week from the state
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  Speaker 5: in regards to the various fires, but obviously not. In
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  Speaker 5: our case, it's Palisades. And having, well, the department was
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  Speaker 5: not prepared, and neither were the departments in the region.
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  Speaker 5: So I changed the leadership and completely revamped how we
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  Speaker 5: approach fires, especially given the new situation we're dealing with,
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  Speaker 5: with so much different in terms of our weather, like
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  Speaker 5: the fact that, you know, first week of October, we've
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  Speaker 5: been in triple-digit weather, to be extra prepared and aggressively proactive.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely understanding the depth of the dysfunction of City Hall
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  Speaker 5: in regard to getting anything done, like hiring police officers,
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  Speaker 5: for example, or building, getting the housing built that the
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  Speaker 5: city needs. I've spent a lot of time changing the policies,
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  Speaker 5: cutting the red tape, and reorganizing the entire process. You
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  Speaker 5: shouldn't have to go to 12 different places to get
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  Speaker 5: something done. So consolidating and all that's needed to get
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  Speaker 5: us prepared in 645 days to welcome the world in
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  Speaker 5: the largest sporting event that will ever be held in U.S. history.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know the lay of the land. I
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  Speaker 3: think any, you know, let's face it. I mean, being
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  Speaker 3: in talk radio, when I have a bad day, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people know about it. When you have a
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  Speaker 3: bad day, not only do a lot of people know
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  Speaker 3: about it, you also, it affects millions of lives.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But I will tell you one thing. There is a
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  Speaker 3: group and there is a group of people that are
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  Speaker 3: trying to take the coasts right now. that have very
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  Speaker 3: far left. We don't need any more far right, far
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  Speaker 3: left ideology. There's a legitimate reason we don't live on
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  Speaker 3: the poles of the earth. When you get too far
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  Speaker 3: to the poles, they're uninhabitable. And I think we're going
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  Speaker 3: that way. And I think that's one of the reasons
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  Speaker 3: why we need you and the mistakes that you've made
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  Speaker 3: and learned from them to be here after this election.
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  Speaker 3: I think you've been unfairly been called a fascist by
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  Speaker 3: Nithya Raman, who cannot, cannot get into office after this election,
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  Speaker 3: and you have to beat her. How do you feel
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  Speaker 3: about getting that label thrown at you when you're everything but?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, to me, it meant a couple of things. One,
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  Speaker 5: it meant that I doubt that she even understands what
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  Speaker 5: the word means, its historical significance. It also meant that
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  Speaker 5: she's just clearly not ready for primetime. The way that
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  Speaker 5: she would say, well, we just need to summarily fire
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  Speaker 5: the fire chief, I mean, the police chief. We are,
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  Speaker 5: as I mentioned, 645 days away. from the biggest thing
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  Speaker 5: that has happened in the city in more than a generation.
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  Speaker 5: And it just shows that she's extremely naive and not
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  Speaker 5: ready to run the city, although I think that there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of evidence as to why she's not ready
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  Speaker 5: to run the city. This is one that she put
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  Speaker 5: on full display for all of us to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just is.
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  Speaker 3: When you talk about, you know, having a dictator, extreme nationalism, suppression,
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  Speaker 3: to me, that's what strangely enough, is throwing that word
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  Speaker 3: fascist on you and the leader of the LAPD, who
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  Speaker 3: I happen to like and trust. I think that is
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  Speaker 3: a Trump-style tactic, which I'm not a fan of personally.
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  Speaker 3: But knowing that we need you, how do you get
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  Speaker 3: that across to people listening now, Mayor Bass, that that maybe,
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  Speaker 3: like me, didn't vote for you, but are absolutely going
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  Speaker 3: to vote for you now, how do you make that
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  Speaker 3: clear to them?
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  Speaker 2: How do you get their ear?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think, first of all, really reiterating what's at
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  Speaker 5: stake right now in our city. And do we want
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  Speaker 5: to experiment with where we are? We have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of problems. But, you know, I mean, I'm from here.
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  Speaker 5: I know that we know how to address challenges here.
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  Speaker 5: and succeed? And do we want to take the risk
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  Speaker 5: right now of experimenting with somebody that has not demonstrated
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  Speaker 5: her effectiveness in her current job as council member, somebody
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  Speaker 5: who cannot even build alliances with the people who she
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  Speaker 5: sits with every day? Is this what people want to
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  Speaker 5: do right now? And I have found that when people
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  Speaker 5: listen to me and hear what that I'm clearly somebody
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  Speaker 5: that knows how to collaborate, somebody that knows how to
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  Speaker 5: get stuff done, I think people are less willing to
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  Speaker 5: take that gamble now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I personally am impressed that you have taken enough
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  Speaker 3: time to come into the station and talk with John Kobel,
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  Speaker 3: to come and talk with Gary and Shannon, Monks in
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  Speaker 3: the Merrill, and now me. That is– this is– talk
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  Speaker 3: about inhospitable. KFI is not always the most hospitable place
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  Speaker 3: for politicians to come in. You've done that, and you've
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  Speaker 3: answered the question.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I, for one, appreciate that. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: was quite mayor oil. I'm not going to say it.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was big of you about that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let me just tell you, too, that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one thing I was known for in Washington, D.C., was
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  Speaker 5: collaborating really well with people who I don't necessarily agree with.
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  Speaker 5: I had strong ties with my Republican counterparts. And it
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  Speaker 5: pays off for the city now. Because even though we
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  Speaker 5: have an acrimonious relationship from time to time with Washington,
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  Speaker 5: but I know a number of his cabinet secretaries. I
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  Speaker 5: can call up the administration and talk to them and
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  Speaker 5: fight with them during the day and talk to them
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  Speaker 5: at night. And, you know, that's the other thing is
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  Speaker 5: that it's very hard to get things done here if
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  Speaker 5: you do not have the cooperation or the relationships or
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  Speaker 5: the experiences. on the federal level and on the state level.
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  Speaker 5: And I've been able to change state law and federal
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  Speaker 5: law to assist the city. I wish I could do
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  Speaker 5: a whole lot more, but we have been able to
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  Speaker 5: get some key things done. And I know that she's unfamiliar,
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  Speaker 5: completely unfamiliar with both D.C. and Sacramento. We are the
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  Speaker 5: nation's second largest city, and I think a lot of times.
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  Speaker 3: We don't act like that with Well, like I said, Mayor,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate your time. I know you're busy this morning
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: because you are not just running a campaign. You're running
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  Speaker 3: the city simultaneously, and you won't have a first day
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: when you win the election. You will have another day
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  Speaker 3: of hopefully fighting for this city, and I can't stress
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  Speaker 3: it enough. We need you to win. This is not
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  Speaker 3: an option, and continue to get yourself out there to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: let people know that it is a Trojan horse and
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: a problem if Nithya Raman gets into that office.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and you know what? And I appreciate the opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to come on your show and to come on the
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  Speaker 5: station because I think that a lot of your listening
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  Speaker 5: audience needs to hear from me because I think over
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: the years I haven't been in touch with, you know,
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  Speaker 5: your listeners. And I want them to know who I am,
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  Speaker 5: what my record has been overall. You know, now that
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: we're living in the era of social media, it's very
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: hard to– to get your information, your viewpoint above the noise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if Nithya Raman wants to come in, I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: happy to interview her as well. She's welcome to come in.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that you did it already under the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: duress of, you know, John Kobelt and everybody else here,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: including me, shows that you're ready to take this by
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the handle and move forward into your next, no movement,
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  Speaker 3: stay where you are, And to your next years and
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: beyond here under a lot of things that we need
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  Speaker 3: to do. So thanks for your time. Mayor Karen Bass, again,
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  Speaker 3: do your research, you know, and take the time to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: find out why we need to have her back in office.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks again, Madam Mayor, for your time.
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  Speaker 5: All right. I appreciate it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Mayor Karen Bass, ladies and gentlemen, how bad do you
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  Speaker 3: think I got to really dislike Nithya Raman? to tell
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  Speaker 3: Mayor Bass that we need her. Truth of the matter is.
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  Speaker 2: We do.
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  Speaker 3: We are trying to save the coasts. And if we
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: go down the path of the DSA, Democratic socialists of
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the America, we are screwed. You're talking about a systematic
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: destruction of the way we do things. Drop the D.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: It's not democratic at all. They're not looking to hold
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  Speaker 3: the democratic system. You have Nithya Raman calling Mayor Bass
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: a fascist. along with the head of the LAPD. And
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: at the core of fascism is the rejection of democracy itself.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And we are looking at that. We are looking at
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: demonizing law enforcement. And Let's say you hate Trump. And again,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: not a fan, didn't vote for him. But at worst,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: he pushes the Constitution, pushes the rule of law to
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: see how far it stretches. But we're talking about a
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  Speaker 3: group coming through in a Trojan horse that is cloaked
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: in democracy and and that wants to destroy it at
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  Speaker 3: its core. And I'm not a real hyperbolic person. Handle is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: But the DSA is trying to softly inject themselves into
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  Speaker 3: the coasts. And I will tell you, the pendulum swinging
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: from Trump to the liberal pole of the DSA is
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: is trying to take hold of the coasts and work
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: their way to the center of America. It will be
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: destructive like nothing else, and the whole pizza promising, this
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: is how it's going to be and you're going to
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: get cheap housing and all this stuff, is preying on
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  Speaker 3: younger people who'd rather have the teat of America, and
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: in this case Los Angeles, in their mouth to be
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: fed by a mother government than have law and order
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: and structure that makes society society. That's all we need.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I've said it before and I'll say it again. Law enforcement, fire,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: fill those potholes. That's what we need. I work hard,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I make good decisions to the best of my ability,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: and I get paid for it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you do.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: So if it throws you off for me wedging my nose.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Squarely between the cheeks of our mayor, poor Kono had
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: to do a lot of wiping during that interview. That's
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: how desperate and how important I think it is to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: get Mayor Bass back in office. You play the hand
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: you're given. You don't wish for better cards. And if
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: you don't understand that, then you are in the cult
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: of the D or the R rather than being an
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: independent thinker and seeing what we need when we need it.
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