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Kyrsten Sinema’s Affair, America’s Sexless Marriages & Gen Z Moving Back Home | TMI Ep 443 · The TMI Show with Ted Rall and Manila Chan

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  Hello, good morning. Happy Monday, August 17th,
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  2026. I'm Manila Chan. That'd be Ted Raul. You're
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  tuned into the Ted Manila Information Show, TMI
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  I don't know where we're at today, but Robbie
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  will tell us, I'm sure. And Robbie, by the way,
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  are we doing a raid into your thing, your your
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  Putin bot gaming today? Not today, because I
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  really can't because we have the Q &A. So we're
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  streaming just doesn't really doesn't work. We
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  will pick some other small underperforming rumble
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  channel and go there. But but really the only
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  time that I will be able to raid into Putin bot
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  gaming will be on days where deprogram does not
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  have a Q &A. So tomorrow, it looks like tomorrow
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  and Thursdays, because I guess we'll be doing
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  three Q &A shows now. Ted, is that correct? Monday,
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  Wednesday, Friday? Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
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  That's right. And Robbie could sure use your
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  help when he does do the the Putin bot gaming
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  because he needs several more unique chatters.
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  So drop in, drop in a hate chat if you want.
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  It is the gayest metric of metrics. At this serious,
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  as much as I hate YouTube, a part of me is just
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  like, screw it. I just do YouTube full time.
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  That's how that's how annoying it is. This is
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  Sophie's choice, man. All right. It's horrible.
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  All right. With that, things to say, I don't
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  know. I don't know what Sophie's choice is. Explain
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  that to me. Oh, my God. It was from the 70s,
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  Ted. Is that what it is? A movie? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Might be early 80s. Yeah. But what is it? It's.
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  It's a movie with Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep
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  is a death camp survivor after World War II.
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  And basically she's highly traumatized and what
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  she did, and basically it turns out that when
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  she was in the death camp, a sadistic SS officer
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  gave her the option of either allowing her Her
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  daughter or her son to die and she chose and
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  it was like basically if you choose one The other
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  one will live if you choose if you'd refuse to
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  play They'll both die So she chose one Hence
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  that's the that's why people say that say Sophie's
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  choice when it's a shit -ass decision That's
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  a horrific, horrific choice. Well, in that case,
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  you can't because since Judaism is matriarchal,
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  the choice is obvious. You off the sun because
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  it's the female. Well, that's what she did. That
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  is what she did. It never occurred to me that
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  this might be a religious decision. I never thought
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  of that either. That's true. Well, that's how
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  Judaism works. It passes on the line. I know
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  that. So the men are disposable. No, I know that
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  I just it didn't it never dawned on me about
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  the movie. It just yeah, it was sort of like
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  I just thought it's cuz she liked him better
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  Like her better. Yeah, there's no choice at all.
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  This is because the line continues by the loins
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  of the female I guess that would make sense for
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  in terms of the movie All right. Well, there
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  you go. Happy It's funny. I never heard anyone
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  explaining that. Yeah. Well, it's one of Judaism
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  from someone that's never seen it It's one of
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  Judaism's dirty secrets I'm honestly no, I'll
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  be called in to make for that. That's not a secret.
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  Well, it's not something that's sort of talked
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  about because it's, it's not like that you have
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  a choice is either a you're born Jewish, but
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  if you are, that means that your mother has to
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  be a Jew or you can be opted in by going through
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  the ritual of renouncing Christ or anything else.
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  Ivanka Trump did. Well, you know, Ivanka isn't
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  her name anymore. I don't think you have to renounce.
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  To convert to Judaism, I've never heard that
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  you have to renounce Christ. It's not like -
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  Yeah, I don't know about that. You 100 % do.
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  Fact check me on this. I will. Don't worry. When
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  I'm reading the next story, total fact check.
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  Wait, wait, wait. I will do that. All right.
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  My experience having, I mean, literally considered
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  converting to marry a Jewish boy, and ultimately
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  I didn't, and ultimately the relationship didn't
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  work. Like the mom. Yes. No, Robbie's right.
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  You have to renounce. Yeah. Mm hmm. Jesus is
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  considered a heretic. Listen, Judaism teaches
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  that you must renounce your prior religious beliefs,
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  including faith in Jesus Christ as the Messiah
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  or savior to convert to mainstream rabbinic Judaism,
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  except Jesus as a defined as a divine figure
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  or Messiah is fundamentally incompatible with
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  traditional Jewish theology, which holds that
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  the Messiah has not yet arrived and that worship
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  belongs to God alone. Correct and since and so
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  I never got that far. So I just It just didn't
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  sit right with me that that he had asked me to
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  You know if you claim you fall in love with someone
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  the way they are or whatever and then you start
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  talking about marriage and kids and you were
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  never a practicing Jew to begin with Then you're
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  suddenly like well you're gonna have to laser
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  off all of your tattoos so you can be buried
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  at a Jewish cemetery with me. And I was like,
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  huh? And then yeah, you're gonna have to give
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  up. You're not a practicing Catholic anyway,
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  so why don't you just do my stuff and convert?
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  And I was like, but you aren't a practicing Jew.
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  like not even high holidays. So why does it,
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  why do I need to do any of these things? So it
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  didn't sit well with me. And so I decided not
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  to. And then we ultimately didn't work out. And
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  his mom had a big issue with that because I was
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  not a birth Jew. Well, no one's a birth Jew.
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  I mean, the genetic line doesn't exist anymore.
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  They're from Poland. They're Khazars. Let's just
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  do away with the myth. The Palestinians are Semitic.
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  They are the children of Abraham through Ishmael.
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  Well, that's probably true. But yeah, he was
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  definitely what I would call a white European
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  Jew. And Montana native, he says, someone should
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  tell the evangelicals, I have, and I was roundly
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  condemned as an anti -Semite at my church for
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  pointing out this fact that Ted just fact -checked
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  live on the internet. Yeah. And by the way, we
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  should point out the president's son -in -law,
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  Jared Kushner, meeting with Uncle Bebe today
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  about the deal. Gross. Yeah. And Ivanka's name,
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  because once you convert, once you go through,
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  you have to change your name. You have to put
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  away your gentile past. Didn't Madonna do that?
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  She's Esther or something? I don't know, but
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  I know that, but Ivanka, her name is JL. It's
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  just an interesting story. Uh, read the book
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  of judges. You want to hear about JL. She has
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  a very, she has a fondness of, uh, the 10 spikes
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  and people's heads. JL that's her jail. J A E
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  L that, that, that is her, that is her, her,
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  that is her Hebrew name, her Jewish name. Oh,
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  well, there you go. The trumps and the Kushner's
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  saving the middle East. All right. I call, in
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  case people don't know why I'm calling him Uncle
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  Bibi, is because the Kushner family and Netanyahu
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  are bosom buds and Bibi used to go crash at the
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  Kushner house when Jared was little and Jared
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  used to protest because he had to give up his
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  room to Uncle Bibi so Uncle Bibi could sleep.
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  Well you know Bibi always with the land grabs.
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  So he stole he stole Jared's bedroom whenever
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  he was in Jared's homeland was taken. Yeah So
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  he should know So there you go. He's brokering
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  peace right now as we speak meeting with uncle
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  BB. All right, let's get to the show lovely Well,
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  somebody's got to be quasi family Ted, all right,
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  um speaking of a family affairs. Oh Ted former
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  US Senator Kristin Sinema. You guys remember
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  her? She started out as a Democrat, right? From
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  Arizona, I think. Yeah, that's right. When she
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  switched into like, independent. I don't think
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  she went full Republican, but I think she went
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  independent during her time. Yeah, she's a weird
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  person. Yeah. Yeah, she dressed. I kind of like
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  her spunky fashion and her glasses. It's not
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  good though. It's definitely not a good one.
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  Look, Jamar and I were talking about her just
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  now and we decided that like in keeping with
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  the discussion you and I have had here about
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  me and Jamar, like we like her, you know, we
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  find her attractive because she's crazy. We know
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  she's crazy. Oh my God. She's not even like a
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  pretty lady. She's bisexual. I don't know. I
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  don't know. I think she's, she's, you know, like
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  different. in many ways. I think she's omnivorous.
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  I don't know. I don't know that much about her
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  sex life apart from this story. Well, so we all
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  know a lot about her sex life now. Now we do.
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  And it's going to be like official on paper because
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  not only the deposition, but anyway, I'll tell
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  you the story. So if you don't know, the former
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  U .S. Senator, Kristin Sinema from Arizona, has
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  offered a remarkably straightforward account
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  of an affair that she had with her married bodyguard.
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  So think of like Whitney Houston and the movie,
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  right? Why did she just lie, by the way? So I
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  don't know. And now their relationship could
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  cost her more than political embarrassment to
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  the tune of $75 ,000. cinema testified in a July
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  31. I hope it was good. Good. That dick was worth
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  it. Geez, man. July 31 deposition that her affair
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  with her former bodyguard Matthew Amell began
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  around Memorial Day of 2024. While the two were
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  staying at an Airbnb in Napa, California. Very
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  romantic, very romantic, Ted. According to the
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  deposition, Amell kissed her outside and then
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  they were whisked inside. And then the relationship
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  became sexual inside the Airbnb. It apparently
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  didn't end in wine country. Cinema acknowledged
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  additional encounters in New York City. Ted,
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  maybe you heard them. I don't know. I mean...
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  No, you can't hear anything with all the noise
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  that people yell in between the homeless people
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  screaming. The cursing. Yeah, the traffic, the
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  honking. They were here in Washington DC. So
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  much honking. I definitely heard noises. I definitely
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  heard noises. It must have been her. They were
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  in Aspen. They hooked up in Aspen. They hooked
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  up in Phoenix. As one does. Um, a lot of hooking
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  up in Phoenix. She also testified that she knew
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  that Amel was married and had three children.
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  Okay. So I guess he was her bodyguard for several
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  years. Um, but I, Ted, I don't, I don't remember
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  other, you know, more famous senators or, or
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  even any, any Congress members having personal
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  bodyguards. So. Well, that's an interesting.
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  I mean, you tell me that's you're the DC person
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  here. I mean, is that a is that a thing? No,
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  that's why I'm like, was she under at risk of?
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  Well, I don't know. I don't know what's going
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  on in her personal life. Maybe a lot of people
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  are trying to attack her. I don't know. But I
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  have chased congressmen and women around for
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  many years on Capitol Hill. And they're just
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  like any other schmoe walk in it once they come
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  out of the Capitol. Yeah, they're usually by
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  themselves. Yeah. Or with an aide or whatever.
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  They're walking to Dunkin Donuts like everybody
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  else, right? Like they're just not with anybody.
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  And yeah, if anybody, they have some like, you
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  know, 22 year old lackey that's like taking notes
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  and carrying their coffee. So that's it. So why
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  she has a bodyguard, I don't know. So that the
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  details of her admitting that she knows Amel
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  was married with three kids, that matters because
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  Mr. Amel's now ex wife, Heather, is suing Sinema
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  for $75 ,000 under North Carolina's very unusual
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  alienation of affection law. In layman's terms,
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  we call that the home wrecker law. It allows
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  someone to sue a third party accused of intentionally
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  interfering with somebody's marriage. Sinema
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  isn't denying the affair. Instead, her legal
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  argument is essentially based on geography. She
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  says North Carolina's law shouldn't apply because
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  the sexual relationships occurred elsewhere.
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  I shouldn't say the relationship. The sexual
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  encounters occurred outside of North Carolina.
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  So she's like, this is not applicable to me.
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  You can't be suing me because I never boned your
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  husband in North Carolina. So in other words,
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  she's arguing about not standing, right? Uh about
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  territoriality? No, no standing standing. It's
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  right. She's saying she she's arguing that the
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  state it's not that it's not the business of
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  the state of north carolina That's right. Like
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  what happens? That's right. That's right. She's
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  like I never set foot in north carolina, um,
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  the court filings also revealed personal messages,
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  however between Mr. Amell and kristen cinema
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  including one in which cinema told The bodyguard
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  that she missed him when asked whether she understood
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  why his wife might find such messages concerning
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  Cinema answered. Yes, this is in a court deposition
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  So she revealed so she revealed that she understood
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  that mrs Amell saw the message at home in North
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  Carolina Ted you see Well, no, she didn't acknowledge
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  that. I mean, all she's saying is like, if you're
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  saying, do you see how she might find this upsetting?
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  By the way, this is a reminder that in depositions,
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  you're not being interviewed by Vanity Fair.
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  And it's best to just say like, I would have
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  said, I have no idea how she feels about anything.
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  I don't know. Right, right, right. Exactly. That's
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  the correct answer. even saying anything. Yeah,
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  just shut the fuck up. Although having been deposed,
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  you have to be like a grizzled veteran like me
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  in order to know how to do that. The first time
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  you do it, you fuck up. Oh, well, well, yeah,
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  but she's been on Capitol Hill, you should know
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  better than to say more than you need. So you
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  just say I don't know. So here's the thing. When
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  she slipped and was honest about that saying
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  like, like, you can see why the wife would be
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  annoyed, right? senator and she's like yeah what
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  that gave away was that she now admits to knowing
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  that the wife saw the text messages so if the
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  wife sees the text messages where do you think
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  she's seeing it ted probably i don't read that
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  as an admission that she knew that like it's
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  like she was told by by opposing council that
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  the wife saw That's not the same thing as saying,
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  I knew that she saw it. According to AI, I think
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  I checked this on Gemini, that Heather has a
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  credible case against cinema because it's saying
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  it gives Heather around a 55 to 65 % chance of
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  surviving cinema is right now trying to get the
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  case dismissed, but Let's see Gemini thinks Heather
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  has a 65 % chance of moving this along and not
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  getting dismissed And it's saying on the merits
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  Heather looks fairly strong North Carolina requires
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  her to show a Genuine marital relationship existed,
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  which she could that cinema wrongfully interfered
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  with it she can show that, and that the interference
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  contributed to the loss of affection. Sinema
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  has now admitted the romantic sexual relationship
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  began roughly five months before the Amels separated,
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  and she knew that Matt was married. Sinema's
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  defense is geography, not innocence. Heather
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  says this... that has the evidence has muddied
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  the water considerably because she says Matthew
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  received romantic communications from cinema
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  while he was physically at the North Carolina
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  marital home including the now infamous towel
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  photograph. I guess she took a picture out of
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  the shower and sent it to Matt in October of
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  2024 and it also states I miss you and this is
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  all before their formal separation and Heather
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  argues the predictable injury occurred in North
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  Carolina where the family lives. So she's saying
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  this is why I have standing against the senator
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  is because the senator knew Matt was home and
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  she's texting anyway. And this is what's contributing
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  to the loss of affection. So I think there's
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  something there. I mean, obviously I'm no attorney,
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  but I think there's something there. I would
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  definitely let this case go on. Mostly because
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  as a nosy reporter, I would like to hear the
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  tawdry details. Of course. Of what? Like, how
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  kinky and weird this senator. I mean, you look
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  at her and you kind of know that there's, you
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  know, she's not your average middle -aged woman,
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  I'd say. Well, what would be interesting, more
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  so than the affair, would be how would this play
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  out against some of the new abortion laws, for
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  example? So North Carolina has effectively banned
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  abortion. So if this law applies for wrecking
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  someone's home, does that mean that you can be
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  prosecuted if you are a resident of North Carolina
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  and then go and have an abortion, say in California?
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  Then does it matter jurisdiction? Because if
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  one law is applicable, then so would the other
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  one be. Wait, I don't follow. So if you're a
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  couple that's in North Carolina and the woman
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  decides to run off to say California or New York
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  City to get an abortion. Well, that's part of
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  the argument, right? Because if this homeworker's
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  law applies, so you're violating North Carolina
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  law, but you're geographically not there as a
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  matter of jurisdiction. Even if you're a North
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  Carolina resident, but you traveled, let's say
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  to New York City, would you still? Well, that's
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  what's currently being, you know, we're trying
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  to figure out. When you come home, do you face
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  the penalty of North Carolina law? Correct. That
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  would be it. And then like, could they then issue
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  a warrant and then - Like if you didn't commit
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  that crime, if you didn't commit that crime,
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  even though you're technically a resident of
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  that state. So - So that's the pickle. That's
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  the argument that they're going to try to make.
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  Because if - If North Carolina wins, then that
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  means that there's an precedent that's set. Now,
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  I'm not a lawyer. I'm just pulling this out of
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  my hat. But logically, that's the chain. Does
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  the state in which you reside, does its law,
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  it's kind of like how the U .S. is able to tax
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  you for income tax, even if you're living in
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  another country. I've been there. I know. But
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  if the U .S. government is able to do this and
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  they don't have jurisdiction in another country,
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  it's like with Maduro. They went after him for
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  saying, for saying, well, you own automatic firearms,
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  your machine guns, a violation of America, of
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  America. Stupid. So that's, I mean, that's the
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  question. Where does it stop? Like, where do
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  you have sovereignty? Yeah. So like, Kristen
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  Sinema, I just, I don't really, I don't know
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  that I, I don't side with. homewrecker's necessarily,
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  but as a matter of legality, like I could see
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  where Kristin Sinema could weasel her way out
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  of this lawsuit. I could kind of see it because
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  you're right, Robbie, like what precedent would
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  this set for not only North Carolina, but also
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  states like Texas or whatever that have these
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  like, for example, abortion laws, which is a
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  hot topic, that if you travel outside of the
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  state and then you commit something that's not
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  a crime in California, but you return to your
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  home state and it's a crime there, are you then
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  still liable to those state, your local law?
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  Yeah. Or if the state issues a warrant for your
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  arrest and they send an extradition to the state
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  that you're currently in, are they then obligated
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  to send you back? Look, we talked about child
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  marriage. the show a few weeks ago that something
• 22:13
  ridiculous like 36 states in the Union still
• 22:16
  allow child marriage so if you were married in
• 22:20
  one of these child marriage states like California
• 22:23
  surprisingly and then you you as a 50 year old
• 22:27
  man married to your 16 year old bride You're
• 22:30
  married in California and you travel to a non
• 22:34
  Child bride state. I don't know what I don't
• 22:38
  know which one like I'll pick, I don't know,
• 22:41
  Tennessee. I don't know if that's true, but let's
• 22:43
  say you go from California to Tennessee. Does
• 22:45
  Tennessee then recognize your child bride marriage
• 22:47
  from California? So that's the question. Damn,
• 22:53
  I don't know. Well, the answer is generally no,
• 22:57
  right? Because remember when Massachusetts was
• 23:02
  the first state in the union to give gay marriages?
• 23:08
  Yeah, yeah. And Barney Frank was at the forefront
• 23:10
  of that. Right. And like the thing is, many,
• 23:13
  many states did not recognize those marriages.
• 23:17
  Oh. So it was only gay marriage only became federalized
• 23:23
  in 2011 when the US Supreme Court ruled in favor
• 23:29
  of one of those cases. So yeah, I would say the
• 23:34
  state law does not apply beyond the state's borders.
• 23:37
  I mean, so the question is, did she, so here's
• 23:43
  the question, right? Did the disruption of the
• 23:46
  marriage occur? Okay, I think Senator Sinema
• 23:53
  is in legal jeopardy and here's why. I don't
• 24:00
  think the case is about where the sex occurred.
• 24:02
  I think the key to the case is the text messages
• 24:06
  and the other communications that cross the state
• 24:08
  lines. Those communications, arguably, it's very
• 24:12
  unlikely that she never communicated with him
• 24:15
  while he was in North Carolina. All that the
• 24:17
  plaintiff would have to show is that he was in
• 24:21
  North Carolina when some of those text messages
• 24:24
  were received. At that point, the North Carolina
• 24:28
  law does apply to a communication. That's right.
• 24:31
  So the communication would be the issue here,
• 24:33
  not lapinus and the vagina going in because it's
• 24:36
  not it's not just sex that intervenes in a in
• 24:41
  someone's marriage right it could be in fact
• 24:42
  you could intervene with i mean i think theoretically
• 24:46
  you could file a lawsuit under this under this
• 24:49
  uh statute and never have sex at all right the
• 24:52
  person involved you can be carrying on an online
• 24:54
  relationship an emotional affair or you could
• 24:57
  be even you might even just be a friend who says
• 25:00
  like Now you should you should divorce your wife.
• 25:03
  She's terrible, right? You should just you could
• 25:05
  just be talking shit about her and the marriage
• 25:07
  that would be it's a quick it's basically the
• 25:11
  romantic and marital version of torches interference
• 25:14
  with contract torches interference with contract
• 25:17
  is where you get involved in someone's business
• 25:19
  relationship and you fuck up their deal and they
• 25:22
  no longer get the money they were getting before
• 25:24
  so there's the same thing you're fucking up their
• 25:26
  marriage how you do it is neither here nor there.
• 25:30
  It has to be vaginal interference. Certainly
• 25:34
  texting someone that you had sex with in the
• 25:38
  state would probably be deemed as qualifying.
• 25:41
  I think this is a very strange law, but I think
• 25:44
  as long as the law is viewed as constitutional.
• 25:48
  Well, also think about this. Your home is not
• 25:52
  only where you live, there's an extension to
• 25:55
  your home. Your car is considered an extension
• 25:57
  of your home. Your personal effects like your
• 26:00
  cell phone your know your iPad this considered
• 26:02
  an extension of your home so if he's in California
• 26:06
  and If he has an iPhone and an iPad the iPads
• 26:09
  at home She texts him the message pops up there
• 26:12
  there on the iPad there and in North Carolina
• 26:15
  There you go and the wife sees it so on August
• 26:19
  19th, there's gonna be an evidentiary hearing
• 26:23
  And it could provide more you know, salacious
• 26:29
  deposition material. So, yeah, I think Robbie
• 26:32
  brings up a really good point that this could
• 26:36
  accidentally set a lot of precedent because then
• 26:39
  other, you know, it becomes this new case where
• 26:42
  people are like, hey, like, spouse, you fucked
• 26:47
  around on me. The main rule is don't cheat with
• 26:51
  people from North Carolina. Well, I guess that's
• 26:58
  one one takeaway Ted Yeah, like, you know, keep
• 27:01
  your research trying keep away for stay away
• 27:04
  from those research triangle whores Well, I would
• 27:07
  just say don't don't be banging The people you
• 27:12
  work with or for no more no Durham Dames No,
• 27:17
  no, don't don't be so if anyone's married and
• 27:21
  you know that they're married. That's the thing
• 27:24
  She should not have owned up to no Chapel Hill
• 27:26
  sluts She should not have owned up to saying
• 27:29
  like she shouldn't have admitted like oh, I know
• 27:31
  Matt's married with three kids. She shouldn't
• 27:34
  have said that Well, that was definitely an admission,
• 27:37
  right? But I mean, obviously she looks she admitted
• 27:39
  she boned him, right? So I know I know she's
• 27:42
  like over here like just like talking to I guess
• 27:45
  they had the good she didn't want it. She didn't
• 27:47
  want to she didn't want to perjure herself. So
• 27:50
  Yeah, I guess. Well, there you are, so we'll
• 27:52
  find out more about her. It's so cringe. I mean,
• 27:55
  honestly, between you and me, how is this anybody's
• 27:57
  business? And as for the wife, it's like, okay,
• 28:02
  what are you doing? Why are you suing her? Your
• 28:05
  beef isn't with Kirsten Silva. Right. Your beef.
• 28:09
  is with your husband who cheated on you. Kristin
• 28:12
  Sinema never promised you anything and never
• 28:14
  stood in front of a congregation and promised
• 28:16
  to have and hold you. There's a little bit to
• 28:19
  do with her, too. Like, I mean, if you're a decent,
• 28:21
  if Kristin Sinema was a decent person, it's one
• 28:24
  thing if you make the mistake the one time, but
• 28:25
  then to keep banging your bodyguard that you
• 28:29
  know is married and has three children and is
• 28:31
  not planning on leaving his wife or nothing,
• 28:33
  like he's going home to his married life with
• 28:36
  three kids. You've never had sex with a married
• 28:38
  guy. No. Not once I find out they're married.
• 28:44
  I've been lied to a couple of times where I was
• 28:46
  like, hey, what's this? And that, you know, I
• 28:49
  was a young, young girl in my twenties and I
• 28:51
  learned, you know, after two times that I was
• 28:52
  like, dudes fucking lie, like dudes fucking lie.
• 28:56
  And I ran away quick. But I never knowingly engaged
• 29:01
  with a married man. But my point is like, but
• 29:04
  still, if you knowingly do it, I mean, I mean,
• 29:09
  it's okay. It's not like the best behavior. But
• 29:12
  should you really be able to be dragged in court?
• 29:14
  As a woman, as a woman, I think Heather's rage
• 29:19
  is misdirected. I mean, for all we know, she's
• 29:22
  also angry at Matt. Maybe she's mad at Matt too.
• 29:25
  She better be. But I mean, yeah, she should be.
• 29:28
  But I would say the anger should be less. less
• 29:33
  anger towards the senator and more towards her
• 29:35
  husband like I have been so the senator is I
• 29:39
  was the other woman I didn't know I didn't know
• 29:43
  I was the other woman right right but Kristen
• 29:45
  but the guy was cinema cinema knew I was of course
• 29:48
  the cinema knew and And this particular person
• 29:54
  wasn't married, but he had a child with this
• 29:57
  other woman that he never told me about. He only
• 29:59
  told me about his ex -wife and a couple kids.
• 30:02
  And then there was this other woman that he cheated
• 30:04
  with and had a baby with her at the same time
• 30:07
  that his wife had a baby. So he had two children
• 30:09
  from two separate women at the same age. I found
• 30:11
  this out all after the fact. And he was a dirty,
• 30:16
  horrible surgeon. Super drama. Yeah, and then
• 30:21
  I found out like he was talking to me about getting
• 30:24
  married I had no idea that this woman existed
• 30:26
  like none he I find out that he not isn't married
• 30:30
  is just that this other woman exists and this
• 30:32
  whole other kid this like You know child out
• 30:36
  of wedlock existed from the woman because he
• 30:40
  was apparently picking up the kid From the other
• 30:44
  from the woman He wasn't we didn't have plans
• 30:47
  or and he was just picking it was his turn to
• 30:48
  visit the you know have the kid and I guess He
• 30:54
  he was still dating her or maybe I don't know.
• 30:57
  I have no idea I didn't we were just dating so
• 31:00
  He I guess went in to use the bathroom or something
• 31:03
  and she hops in his car Presses the the GPS to
• 31:08
  see where he's been going a lot and it was to
• 31:10
  my house And then my number shows up and my name
• 31:15
  She calls me on his car Bluetooth, and then I
• 31:23
  hear him running like, what are you doing? And
• 31:25
  then she writes down my number into her phone,
• 31:28
  hangs up. Calls you. Calls me. I hear yelling
• 31:33
  in the background and she's like, I'm so and
• 31:36
  so. Do you know that he and I have blah, blah,
• 31:40
  blah. We have a kid together. I was like, who
• 31:42
  are you? I was like, what? I was at the gym on
• 31:46
  the treadmill. I'm like, you're like an episode
• 31:48
  of Real Housewives. Who the fuck is this? What
• 31:51
  is like? So in my case, shit like that happens.
• 31:54
  Men lie. And I didn't know. But Kristin Sinema
• 31:58
  knows. Anyway, as soon as I found that out, I
• 32:01
  told him to hit the fucking road. Never wanted
• 32:03
  to see him again. But but then the baby mama
• 32:07
  tried to have a friendship with me. Oops. And
• 32:13
  I'm like, Lady. We have nothing we have nothing
• 32:16
  to talk about. Right. Right. I have like I my
• 32:20
  heart goes out to you. I'm sorry that I got suckered
• 32:23
  into this. Like I don't want anything to do with
• 32:25
  you crazy people like God bless. Move on with
• 32:29
  your life. You can have them. You guys have a
• 32:31
  kid together. God bless. I wonder how this North
• 32:35
  Carolina law. would handle someone in your situation
• 32:39
  where you didn't know. Would it be enough for
• 32:42
  you to just to be able to demonstrate that you
• 32:44
  were unaware of his marital status? Well, in
• 32:48
  my case, he wasn't married to this other woman.
• 32:50
  She was the other woman that broke up his first
• 32:52
  marriage. But you get my point, right? But if
• 32:55
  he were married, someone like me, I had no clue.
• 32:58
  I mean, I just wonder if the North Carolina law
• 33:01
  certainly shouldn't apply there. um no but the
• 33:04
  message here is the message here is don't fuck
• 33:06
  around in north carolina or with north carolina
• 33:09
  fuck around and find out apparently in north
• 33:12
  carolina keep it keep it down in the palmetto
• 33:14
  state and south carolina move it up to virginia
• 33:17
  to the commonwealth yeah you are not immune that's
• 33:21
  all i gotta say i bet christin cinema did it
• 33:23
  she's she's spicy she doesn't look like she's
• 33:25
  so spicy but she's you know obviously no she's
• 33:28
  not crazy eyes she's got a hot puss man She's
• 33:31
  got crazy eyes, Ted. Yeah, yeah. She's probably
• 33:33
  she's probably amazing in bed. I bet she is.
• 33:37
  She's like a merit, not a marathoner. What are
• 33:40
  those like multiple event like a what is it called?
• 33:44
  What are those like? Not a merit. It's like you
• 33:46
  do all these different events to get like triathlon.
• 33:50
  Yeah, she's a triathlete. Oh, wow. She doesn't
• 33:52
  look like she's she looks like a potato. No,
• 33:56
  apparently that's like more muscle. She's like
• 33:59
  she's a thick. Yeah, she's got meat on her bones,
• 34:01
  but she's about so she's totally she's totally
• 34:03
  like pounding pounding away Yeah, yeah, so apparently
• 34:07
  she's like, you know, like showing that's why
• 34:10
  she was sending him pictures that's what she
• 34:11
  said in the In the deposition that she's like
• 34:14
  I was just showing him my physique after you
• 34:17
  know, like my triceps and I just happened to
• 34:19
  be in a towel Just happened to be People just
• 34:24
  happened to be in a towel. I mean, look, it could
• 34:26
  be worse. It could be Jeffrey Toobin. He could
• 34:28
  have used a towel. Anyway, all right, let's move
• 34:33
  on here. You know what she could do? I'll just
• 34:38
  say, let's not go away. What she could do is
• 34:40
  that she could say, this is nothing more than
• 34:42
  the blatant attack by the woke Reich and the
• 34:45
  anti -Israel forces in North Carolina, because
• 34:48
  she's such a staunch defender of Israel. She
• 34:51
  could straight up play that card. She has an
• 34:53
  A plus rating for AIPAC. Maybe she could maybe
• 34:55
  she could say there were Palestinians in her
• 34:57
  vagina and she needed that the bodyguard to fuck
• 35:00
  them to death like they were in Gaza. OK, here
• 35:05
  we go. So we'll kill. We'll continue along the
• 35:08
  same theme here. Marriage may promise love, companionship
• 35:11
  and a lifetime together. Sex, apparently, though,
• 35:15
  is increasingly optional. New data from the General
• 35:18
  Social Survey finds that. 32 .5 % of married
• 35:21
  adult American adults had no sex at all in the
• 35:25
  last year. On the other end, 4 .1 % said that
• 35:29
  they were having sex more than three times a
• 35:32
  week. Licensed marriage and family therapist
• 35:34
  and clinical sexologist Dr. Anna Elton says a
• 35:39
  sexless marriage is generally defined as having
• 35:41
  sex 10 times or fewer per year. She notes that
• 35:45
  intimacy can fade for plenty of familiar reasons,
• 35:48
  demanding jobs, children, stress, hormonal changes,
• 35:51
  and perhaps most dangerously, couples simply
• 35:54
  losing their connection. She has a prescription.
• 35:58
  Put down the phone and pay attention to the person
• 36:00
  you married. Elton recommends that couples spend
• 36:03
  a week deliberately noticing what's going right
• 36:05
  in their relationship, expressing gratitude and
• 36:08
  replacing conversations dominated by bills, errands,
• 36:11
  and scheduled with actual connection. A regular
• 36:14
  tech -free night can help as well. Then comes
• 36:17
  something long -term couples sometimes forget
• 36:19
  entirely. have a good time. Elton suggests introducing
• 36:24
  novelty through planned dates, even using an
• 36:27
  A to Z system. I don't know if this applies in
• 36:30
  Cyrillic to Russian couples. Art galleries or
• 36:34
  axe throwing for A. Axe throwing keeps her in
• 36:36
  danger. At each other? I was going to say X throwing
• 36:39
  could turn dangerous if you're not getting along
• 36:41
  well. Bowling or the beach for B. And yes, you
• 36:45
  can still flirt after even though you're still
• 36:47
  married. She recommends small physical gestures,
• 36:50
  including longer hugs and kisses to reinforce
• 36:53
  intimacy and connection. So yeah. Yeah. I mean,
• 37:01
  you know, duh. That's a lot of not of no sex.
• 37:05
  To me, the main story. Yeah, that's the thing,
• 37:08
  right? Like, we know that young people are suffering
• 37:10
  from a sex recession. They're not connecting.
• 37:14
  But like what's, you know, and of course, obviously,
• 37:17
  look, sexless marriages are endemic in the United
• 37:20
  States. Also in China, I was doing a ceremony
• 37:24
  yesterday, Mr. Li, because Paul knows about this
• 37:27
  too. Shanghai, they said almost 25 % of the city's
• 37:32
  population, which is massive because it's such
• 37:33
  a huge city, they're in what they call a dry
• 37:37
  marriage, where basically the married couple
• 37:39
  are roommates, but they never have sex. And the
• 37:41
  Chinese government is really starting to look
• 37:43
  at this because it's a major problem. Well, because
• 37:46
  they're not making babies. And, McCaden, thank
• 37:48
  you for the donation. And you're headed toward
• 37:50
  divorce. Sounds like North Carolina needs adultery
• 37:53
  insurance. True. New business model here. So
• 37:58
  yes, so let's get back to so sexless marriages.
• 38:01
  I mean, honestly, I'm glad that we have this
• 38:03
  topic. You really can't talk about it enough,
• 38:08
  given the fact that this this it is a huge problem.
• 38:12
  And it is like not talked about. And it's considered
• 38:16
  okay, like, like if you especially if you're
• 38:19
  a guy. If you complain that you're not getting
• 38:22
  any sex at home, first of all, you're going to
• 38:25
  be told, oh, you should take out the trash more
• 38:28
  often and help out with the chores. And you should
• 38:30
  obviously be contributing at home. But studies
• 38:34
  have shown that actually couples that have more
• 38:36
  traditional gender roles tend to have more sex
• 38:39
  and have better marriages anyway. So that's kind
• 38:42
  of like not really true that taking out the trash
• 38:44
  more is going to get you laid more. It's really
• 38:47
  kind of not true. And the other thing is, there's
• 38:51
  sort of a sense that, like, if it's usually the
• 38:55
  guy, if the guy complains, like, I'm not getting
• 38:57
  any action, then, like, socially, people are
• 39:01
  like, God, is that all you ever think about?
• 39:03
  What are you, a pig? And, I mean, it should,
• 39:06
  I mean, it's kind of like, okay, people can have
• 39:08
  problems and they can have hormonal issues and
• 39:10
  blah, blah, blah, blah. But whether it's the
• 39:12
  man or the woman, there should be a sense that
• 39:15
  something's wrong. if your marriage is sexless.
• 39:18
  And it's a problem to be fixed. Not that it's
• 39:21
  okay or normal. I think the normalization is
• 39:24
  really a problem. But this, I'm gonna, look,
• 39:29
  while obviously I'm not, you know, the virginal
• 39:31
  princess that I think some of you would hope
• 39:33
  I am, as evidenced by having a kid a couple of
• 39:37
  months ago at near 50. Oh, I assume that was
• 39:41
  the immaculate conception. Like, God. Like, you
• 39:45
  know, I always wanted to say like, you know,
• 39:46
  like Joseph, like, you know, imagine like Mary's
• 39:50
  conversation with Joseph. Hurry say it, Ted,
• 39:53
  Robbie's away. Yeah, exactly. So Joe, I got something
• 39:57
  to tell you. Well, I know we haven't been hitting
• 40:00
  it, but guess what? Good news is on the way in
• 40:04
  eight and a half months. We're having a baby.
• 40:06
  But wait a minute. So who's the dad? It was God.
• 40:13
  Really? It was God. Well, I mean, stranger things
• 40:18
  can happen. Not really, but not really. Stranger
• 40:22
  things really can't happen. But I will say this
• 40:26
  upon researching some of this topic last night.
• 40:32
  Obviously sex is is a big thing and and needed
• 40:35
  to continue It's literally it's literally the
• 40:39
  most important thing in your marriage, right?
• 40:41
  Like like if no that you are speaking from a
• 40:44
  point of view you only have sex Going for you
• 40:48
  and the sex is great, but everything else blows
• 40:50
  like you're yelling at each other You can't stand
• 40:53
  each other your marriage will limp on but if
• 40:56
  you have everything else going great and there's
• 40:58
  no sex No, I was doing research on this last
• 41:03
  night and I found a whole institute within the
• 41:06
  Yale Anthropology Department. There's whole anthropological
• 41:10
  research on this and I would love to interview
• 41:12
  somebody from Yale about this. But from what
• 41:14
  I read in the research is that this is very much,
• 41:17
  you have a very Western view on heteronormative
• 41:22
  sexual, the importance of heteronormative sex
• 41:24
  within any kind of relationship, married or not.
• 41:28
  And it's that it's primarily in Western culture
• 41:32
  that the emphasis is put on sex, that on collectivist
• 41:36
  cultures, like I always say, I'm - Did you just
• 41:39
  say emphasis? Yes. Emphasis. That's the point,
• 41:44
  emphasis. You're missing the joke, Ted. I'm putting
• 41:48
  the wrong emphasis in the wrong syllable, duh.
• 41:51
  Oh my God, I need more. My coffee's weak this
• 41:54
  morning. Jeez. I thought you would get that joke.
• 41:57
  Emphasis on the wrong syllable on purpose. But
• 42:02
  in Western cultures, it's a lot about, and this
• 42:05
  is all from the research I did. If you guys don't
• 42:07
  like this, you can contact the Yale people. This
• 42:10
  is like I was looking at Yale's study on anthropology
• 42:12
  and about sex and culture, was that in Western
• 42:17
  culture, it is very much a self and a me, me
• 42:21
  first culture. And in Eastern culture, like of
• 42:25
  which I grew up in, that it's a collectivist
• 42:28
  culture and it's less about, it's less about
• 42:31
  this individual idea of using sex as a form of
• 42:37
  self pleasure or as a hobby or as like something
• 42:41
  fun that you do. And in Western culture, this
• 42:47
  is, it's literally just, it's something you do
• 42:49
  for fun. Well, yeah. So in Eastern culture, it's
• 42:54
  not viewed that way. So it's not put on the top
• 42:57
  priority list Obviously, they're having plenty
• 42:59
  of sex. That's how they got 1 .3 billion people
• 43:02
  in China Sorry, I had to shout at somebody on
• 43:08
  the other side of the door Okay So yeah, this
• 43:12
  like in collectivist cultures, they view sex
• 43:15
  as I mean, it's of course, it's important within
• 43:17
  marriage And it's it's up there maybe in the
• 43:20
  top five top 10, but it's not one of the top
• 43:23
  one or even two in collectivist cultures, where
• 43:26
  it is in Western cultures, like you're pointing
• 43:29
  out. And when I started digging down into this
• 43:32
  a little bit more, there's no irony that in Westernized
• 43:39
  cultures, divorce rates are also significantly
• 43:42
  skyrocketing higher, much higher. Because they're
• 43:46
  not having enough sex. because of the importance
• 43:49
  that the way people view sex is almost like,
• 43:53
  you know, this trivial thing, it's just there
• 43:55
  for pleasure. And when people in Western cultures
• 43:58
  - Pleasure is not a trivial thing. When that
• 44:01
  becomes your only source of pleasure, I would
• 44:04
  say I agree more with the Eastern view of the
• 44:08
  role of sex. It's not the first, it's not the
• 44:11
  alpha, it's not the omega, it's important, but
• 44:14
  - When you're talking about marriage the dissolution
• 44:17
  of marriage is from the East, you know, it's
• 44:19
  not like the East is intensive sex Yeah, I know
• 44:23
  but that's my point is if the Kama Sutra came
• 44:26
  out of India two thousand whatever years ago
• 44:28
  and Even they're not saying I mean, this is a
• 44:32
  country that came up with arranged marriages
• 44:34
  and the Kama Sutra So how do you balance that
• 44:37
  the arranged marriages actually have a better
• 44:39
  chance of working out than the Western an American
• 44:42
  style marriage? because of the values of in their
• 44:45
  culture of how they view family and You know
• 44:48
  like stability and all things like maybe there's
• 44:51
  Indian ladies be be putting out and boning like
• 44:54
  crazy But maybe maybe the dudes I don't know
• 44:57
  but either way Asian cultures in general not
• 45:01
  only just the Indians I mean you guys can look
• 45:03
  this up yourself There's a it makes a lot of
• 45:05
  sense is that if your culture like our culture
• 45:09
  trivializes sex We over -sexualize everything.
• 45:12
  We sexualize little children, little girls. We
• 45:15
  put them in these pageants. Sex has become like
• 45:18
  this, I don't know, like this thing you put,
• 45:20
  you know, put on, take on and off. It's like
• 45:22
  the Jon Benet, Bramsey shit. Yeah, it's just
• 45:24
  like, sex is like this, this novelty item that
• 45:27
  you just, you can go pick up at Spencer's Gifts
• 45:30
  at the mall. Right. Whereas with your lava lamp.
• 45:33
  Yes. We should we should move on because we have
• 45:36
  two stories left. All right. But yeah, that's
• 45:38
  that's that's how you guys look up the divorce
• 45:40
  rates between the East and the West. And surprisingly,
• 45:43
  Ted, high divorce rates in Russia because they're
• 45:45
  kind of like they straddle between Eastern culture
• 45:48
  and Western culture. Huge higher divorce rates
• 45:52
  than in America. I wonder why. I don't know.
• 45:55
  We know why. Kind of shocking to me. Like all
• 45:58
  the the the Eastern European blocks, they have
• 46:01
  a much higher. However, the highest divorce rate
• 46:04
  I read last night was in Portugal, I think. But
• 46:09
  that's because they have the highest rate of
• 46:10
  shack and up before marriage. And then here's
• 46:13
  the thing, what they say is it basically it's
• 46:16
  because divorce, it's really easy in Russia.
• 46:20
  Apparently, it's all you do filing for divorce
• 46:22
  requires a minimal fee. There's very little red
• 46:26
  tape. If you don't minor children, you can dissolve
• 46:32
  your marriage quickly. There's no heavy alimony,
• 46:35
  only basic child support. So it's basically like
• 46:38
  the first time. So here, a lot of couples stay
• 46:41
  together here in the United States because, because
• 46:44
  getting married, divorced is, is hard. So maybe
• 46:47
  people work on their marriages a little, people,
• 46:49
  people might be working on their marriages a
• 46:51
  little harder. here in the US. Whereas the Ruskies
• 46:53
  are like, yeah, you don't have any kids. Fuck
• 46:56
  it. Easy come, easy go. See ya. Well, OK. I guess
• 47:01
  I didn't look up. I was like, huh, they're hiring
• 47:04
  us? It's a political answer. There you go. Well,
• 47:07
  if you know Russians, that makes a lot of sense
• 47:09
  with their personalities too. Easy come, easy
• 47:12
  go. See ya. All right. All right. So while Americans
• 47:21
  spent the 4th of July grilling burgers, setting
• 47:23
  off fireworks and arguing online about whether
• 47:26
  this country is collapsing, a few dozen Europeans
• 47:30
  in Poland decided to celebrate America's 250th
• 47:33
  birthday as well. But in a different way, by
• 47:37
  pretending to be broke people in Ohio in a trailer
• 47:41
  park. Yes, really. A Polish live action role
• 47:46
  playing group, a LARPing group. It's called LARPing.
• 47:49
  A Polish LARPing group created a 28 -hour game
• 47:54
  called Broken American Dream, where players from
• 47:58
  across Europe took on the roles of struggling
• 48:02
  Americans dealing with medical bills, lousy jobs,
• 48:05
  drugs, gun violence, eviction, broken marriages,
• 48:08
  and the ever -present hope that somehow tomorrow
• 48:11
  will be better. Basically, they recreated America
• 48:14
  from what they know of Netflix, the fictional
• 48:17
  community called pristine park featured red solo
• 48:22
  cups cowboy hats american flags cheap beer litter
• 48:26
  everywhere and even even pretend meth labs the
• 48:31
  meth was actually blue raspberry rock candy players
• 48:37
  had to hunt for jobs, scrape together rent, and
• 48:41
  navigate various disasters while remaining appropriately
• 48:44
  optimistic about their prospects. Nothing says
• 48:47
  American Dream quite like hoping your favorite
• 48:50
  chemotherapy doesn't bankrupt you. Your fake
• 48:52
  chemotherapy. Sorry. But favorite, you know.
• 48:56
  You have all kinds of cancers when you're American,
• 48:59
  Ted. That's just how it is. That's true. Healthcare
• 49:01
  was particularly fascinating to European participants.
• 49:05
  One Belgian player who had undergone cancer,
• 49:08
  undergone, oh no, I think the real person undergone...
• 49:10
  had undergone cancer treatment described paying
• 49:13
  virtually nothing out of pocket back home in
• 49:16
  Belgium. While others said one of the scariest
• 49:19
  elements of pretending to be American was imagining
• 49:23
  a medical emergency wiping out their savings.
• 49:26
  Gun culture also made the itinerary a German
• 49:29
  player portraying a gangster. Said even handling
• 49:33
  a prop weapon made him uncomfortable wondering
• 49:35
  how Americans live with the knowledge that someone
• 49:38
  nearby could be armed the entire production was
• 49:41
  inspired largely by American movies television
• 49:44
  social media and books including hillbilly elegy
• 49:48
  and Nomad land organizers say the point wasn't
• 49:52
  to mock Americans, but to explore the contradiction
• 49:56
  between America's legendary promise of upward
• 49:58
  mobility and the darker version of the country
• 50:01
  exported through our own culture, which may be
• 50:04
  the strangest part. Europe didn't invent this
• 50:07
  caricature of us. We sold it to them. So, this
• 50:12
  is what Europeans, non -English Europeans, non
• 50:17
  -English speaking, think of us, Ted, and in Ohio.
• 50:21
  I mean, you know more about that than me. Is
• 50:25
  this is this what this is what they think of
• 50:27
  us? Well, I mean, there's nothing that you read
• 50:30
  that sounded like they got it wrong. You know,
• 50:33
  I spent I spent a semester abroad when I was
• 50:36
  a kid when I was 12 in France. And and I remember
• 50:40
  I was, you know, I grew up in Ohio, as you just
• 50:42
  said. And I was struck by how like silly the
• 50:47
  character, the the views of my classmates, my
• 50:50
  French classmates were. And they were like, oh,
• 50:52
  do you do you have a horse? you know, and I was
• 50:56
  like, no, I live in the suburbs. And they were
• 50:58
  like, do you live in a skyscraper? And I was
• 51:02
  like, how could I have a horse and live in a
• 51:05
  skyscraper? Like, would I bring my horse onto
• 51:07
  the elevator? They're 12 year olds though. Yeah,
• 51:10
  I know. But the point is, they assume that Americans
• 51:12
  lived in New York City or like, or they saw,
• 51:16
  you know, at the time it was the 70s. There were
• 51:18
  still a lot of Westerns on TV and on film. Anyway,
• 51:22
  the point is, unlike that, this doesn't sound
• 51:25
  like the polls got a lot wrong, right? It sounds
• 51:28
  pretty accurate. This is all I mean. Look, meth
• 51:32
  and opioids are a huge problem in the U .S. All
• 51:35
  these things that you mentioned. The health care
• 51:38
  system is this disaster. You know, I mean, I
• 51:43
  guess I don't really understand why on earth.
• 51:46
  the polls would be interested in replicating
• 51:48
  or why would they want to LARP this? It's all
• 51:53
  so fucking depressing. Why LARP something as
• 51:57
  horrible and depressing as this? I mean, would
• 51:59
  we LARP like the Afghan Civil War? Like, you're
• 52:02
  in the Taliban, I'm in the Northern Alliance.
• 52:04
  I mean, look, Americans love Civil War reenactment
• 52:08
  and shit. I think all of that's weird. That's
• 52:09
  not the same thing. I know a guy. You don't think
• 52:12
  so? I think that's all kind of LARPing writ large.
• 52:15
  Yeah, but that's not depressing. Well, look at
• 52:17
  who they're willing to LARP. They're willing
• 52:19
  to LARP poor white people in America who are
• 52:22
  struggling. Meanwhile, if someone asked them
• 52:26
  to go LARP, say some Afghan goat herding the
• 52:31
  villager, I can't do that. That's racist and
• 52:33
  offensive. So, I mean, that's really the more
• 52:37
  interesting story here. So why is it okay to
• 52:39
  mock and laugh at poor struggling whites in Appalachia?
• 52:45
  By the way, it doesn't sound like they're necessarily
• 52:47
  making fun of. I mean, there was literally not
• 52:49
  a single line or reference even obliquely to
• 52:53
  jokes or humor or that it was satirical. Yeah,
• 52:55
  they were saying like how horrible that you Americans
• 52:58
  have to think about like being bankrupt because
• 53:01
  you broke your leg or something. You know, like
• 53:03
  the Civil War reenactment guys, they're not making
• 53:05
  fun of it. They're just like, they're redoing
• 53:08
  it, right? Yeah, no, I get it. But I mean, So
• 53:12
  both of these things can be true at one time.
• 53:14
  One, you have the German guy, which is precious.
• 53:17
  His ancestors, if they were able to, should come
• 53:21
  back and strangle him in his sleep. His ancestors
• 53:27
  were the warriors who conquered Europe. Charlemagne
• 53:30
  was German. Let's just call this thing what it
• 53:34
  is. Could you imagine the fear of knowing that
• 53:37
  your neighbor might be armed? Oh my. That's so
• 53:42
  terrifying. That's up there. That's up there.
• 53:45
  We're used to it, but it does it mean it is valid
• 53:48
  to think that like if you were not used to it,
• 53:51
  like let's say you moved from Poland to the United
• 53:53
  States, it's a little it's a little spooky to
• 53:56
  think that like your neighbor might have guns,
• 53:59
  you know, and your neighbor might be an asshole
• 54:01
  or stupid or both or whatever. I was a German.
• 54:04
  So you would think, you know, just two generations
• 54:08
  ago. They were all at war, yeah. Right, and there
• 54:13
  were guns blazing everywhere. But look at where
• 54:16
  their country is at now. They're an economic
• 54:20
  death spiral. factories closing, they're turning
• 54:25
  themselves into a rust belt, they're overrun
• 54:27
  with migrants, they, no one has guns, or I don't
• 54:31
  think so anyway, not like the US by any means,
• 54:34
  but I think they're largely - I think Germany's
• 54:36
  like France, it's like a lot of people have guns
• 54:38
  for hunting, like rifles. Hunting, but not, yeah,
• 54:41
  but largely - Hunting's definitely huge in Germany.
• 54:44
  Yeah, there's a lot of, out in the black forest,
• 54:46
  I'm sure, but - but handguns and things like
• 54:49
  that. Like when you're living, when you're a
• 54:51
  dude that can pay to go LARP, living in a trailer
• 54:54
  park, like I'm sure the dude has money, right?
• 54:58
  And he's probably some, you know, liberal coming
• 55:01
  from Berlin, you know, that's like, like, oh
• 55:04
  my God, this guy, maybe I'm sending him guns
• 55:08
  next door. He should stick to his gay pride parades.
• 55:12
  And, you know, and really at the end of the day,
• 55:15
  If the Europeans are really that concerned, what
• 55:18
  they could do is actually start funding your
• 55:21
  own militaries and stop relying on the taxpayer
• 55:23
  from Appalachia for defending them. Well, that's
• 55:27
  true. Supplementing their military or defending
• 55:30
  them here because that's what's happening. Neither
• 55:34
  without the United States attacking Germany.
• 55:37
  Nobody is. That's my point. That's right. But
• 55:39
  the but the German military is the entire European
• 55:43
  defense structure. exists as it is right now
• 55:46
  because of the American pacifier. They don't
• 55:49
  have to invest in their militaries because they
• 55:54
  have the American. Sounds like they haven't figured
• 55:55
  it out. They'll use our boys. Sounds smart to
• 56:00
  me. So it's Israeli Marvel, right? They'll use
• 56:01
  our guns instead. Exactly. It's Israeli Marvel,
• 56:05
  but it's not good for us. So if the question
• 56:07
  is, look at these Americans, look at how they're
• 56:10
  living, which by the way, I agree on a lot of
• 56:12
  it. No, my son, he's on his way to the doctor's
• 56:14
  office right now. He probably broke his foot
• 56:17
  yesterday. He got stepped on by a horse. Oh,
• 56:19
  shit. Stepped on by a horse? Yeah, at the rodeo.
• 56:22
  That's actually very easy to have happen, yeah.
• 56:25
  Oh my God. Horses be heavy. No, this is the last
• 56:29
  time. This is not exactly a good time to get
• 56:32
  a new medical bill, but yeah, here we are. If
• 56:35
  we were not subsidizing Europe's defense and
• 56:38
  Israel's defense, defending Taiwan, and trying
• 56:42
  to be the world's policeman running this global
• 56:44
  fucking empire that's a disaster, maybe we could
• 56:46
  invest on the poor trailer trash in Appalachia.
• 56:50
  Maybe we could start executing drug dealers.
• 56:52
  Maybe we could secure the border. Maybe we could
• 56:54
  have mass deportations. Maybe we could stop blowing
• 56:56
  up fishermen off Guatemala. These are all things
• 56:58
  we're able to do. But no, shut down, shut up
• 57:01
  and why enjoy your fucking medicine because you
• 57:04
  just let these rich Europeans like put it. I
• 57:09
  really feel like they're putting a mirror up
• 57:12
  to our culture. I really think that's what it
• 57:14
  is. And I don't think it's it's meant to be.
• 57:16
  I don't think they meant for it. They're trying
• 57:19
  to like I think they're trying to be edgy. They're
• 57:21
  trying. I think they're trying to figure us out,
• 57:23
  honestly. Yeah, these yeah, these are not native
• 57:26
  English speakers. This is what they know. from
• 57:30
  seeing stuff on Netflix. Americans are mysterious
• 57:33
  to much of the world. We have this huge influence
• 57:35
  on the world, militarily, culturally, socially,
• 57:38
  economically. Yeah. And they can't, and they
• 57:40
  want to kind of get into our heads. I don't know.
• 57:43
  I don't think it's unreasonable. And then you
• 57:44
  have, you have the vice president of the United
• 57:46
  States, the sitting vice president, becoming
• 57:48
  a bestselling, you know, author with Hillbilly
• 57:51
  Elegy, talking about his, you know, meth addicted
• 57:54
  mom and alcohol and all of this stuff. And so
• 57:57
  they're like, Oh, wow. The vice president is
• 58:00
  from that. Like, wow. Well, that's true. Can
• 58:03
  someone explain to me why the Sagler family,
• 58:05
  not one person from the Sagler's people who don't
• 58:07
  know, they're the ones who, uh, who brought Oxycontin
• 58:09
  and just really kicked off the opioid crisis
• 58:13
  here in this country. Why is it that not a single
• 58:16
  member of the Sagler family ever was held accountable?
• 58:19
  Why did no one go to prison? Why would they brought
• 58:22
  their way out? Why does that family They bought
• 58:25
  their way out. And that's the whole point. Meanwhile,
• 58:30
  the center of the country is being hollowed out.
• 58:33
  We're being destroyed by our own government.
• 58:36
  Meanwhile, these other countries are coming up.
• 58:39
  Oh, look at these. Look at these rednecks. Look
• 58:42
  at how they're suffering. Well, they're not wrong.
• 58:46
  Of course they're not wrong. But the question
• 58:48
  I have for the American people is why are we
• 58:50
  putting up with it? Well, the polls are not the
• 58:53
  problem, you know, and I don't mean POLL, right?
• 58:56
  Our government is the problem. Yeah, our government
• 59:00
  is the problem and we're failing to hold them
• 59:02
  accountable. Robbie, when's the last time there
• 59:05
  was a major political protest about anything
• 59:09
  in this country? I mean, there hasn't been one.
• 59:12
  The most, the biggest protests in the last 10
• 59:14
  years have been what? The one and a half women's
• 59:17
  marches? I don't know, four no -kings marches,
• 59:20
  none of which basically were anything other than
• 59:23
  Donald Trump is fat and orange. But they had
• 59:26
  nothing to say. They didn't call for any significant
• 59:29
  change. They weren't about anything, right? When's
• 59:33
  the last time there was a major protest movement
• 59:35
  about anything? I'm going to say 2011 on the
• 59:40
  right with the Tea Party who were complaining
• 59:42
  about, you know, taxed enough already. That's
• 59:46
  what T stood for. And on the left, Occupy Wall
• 59:50
  Street, which was about income disparity and
• 59:53
  the domination of the 1%. I mean, it's been 15
• 59:58
  years since we saw, and these were not huge protests,
• 1:00:03
  I would just say a significant protest. And you
• 1:00:06
  have to go back to... You have to go back really
• 1:00:09
  to the 1970s. There hasn't been in our lifetimes,
• 1:00:14
  a real protest movement in this country. Do you
• 1:00:16
  know, I mean, really, I think this just kind
• 1:00:20
  of shows is just how sick we are as a nature
• 1:00:26
  and just as a culture, as a people, as a nation.
• 1:00:32
  It kind of reminds me of the opium wars. I wasn't
• 1:00:35
  there, but I read a lot about them. It's the
• 1:00:38
  same thing. There's just a sense of hopelessness
• 1:00:39
  that nothing mattered. The Chinese peasantry
• 1:00:43
  just sat there on their blessed assurance, smoking
• 1:00:46
  their opium, as the entire nation just - As the
• 1:00:50
  Brits were laughing their asses off. That's what's
• 1:00:53
  going on here. Yeah, true. And in the meanwhile,
• 1:00:55
  the Chinese ruling class, the Manchus just sitting
• 1:00:57
  there, everything's fine. Everyone's okay until
• 1:01:00
  it wasn't. That's when the Boxer Rebellion happened.
• 1:01:03
  I mean, that's what's going to happen here. It's
• 1:01:05
  just going to be a matter of the Chinese have
• 1:01:07
  the advantage. And when it happens, it will have
• 1:01:09
  been long overdue. So the Chinese had the advantage
• 1:01:12
  of that 2000 years of shared history. We don't
• 1:01:14
  have that here. When this happens, this country
• 1:01:17
  is going to make what happened in Yugoslavia
• 1:01:20
  look like a joke. And that's my dread. Yeah,
• 1:01:23
  this is well, I mean, I don't see any way around
• 1:01:25
  it because we are choosing not to organize and
• 1:01:30
  and hold the powers that be accountable. One
• 1:01:33
  last quick story, and then we'll get out of here
• 1:01:35
  because this is all new. Yeah, I got to go get
• 1:01:38
  ready for Q &A. For generations, graduating from
• 1:01:42
  college was supposed to mark the beginning of
• 1:01:44
  adulthood. You got your diploma, then your first
• 1:01:46
  job, then your first apartment. However, for
• 1:01:49
  Gen Z, the next step is move back into your childhood
• 1:01:52
  bedroom. A new clever real estate survey found
• 1:01:56
  that 49 % of recent college grads moved back
• 1:02:00
  in with their parents after graduation, and nearly
• 1:02:03
  half who returned are still there. So among Gen
• 1:02:07
  Z living at home, 58 % say the rent is too damn
• 1:02:11
  high. That's why they're stuck at home with their
• 1:02:13
  parents. 52 % say they're more likely to move
• 1:02:16
  back in with their parents over the next five
• 1:02:18
  years than to buy a house of their own. I'm surprised
• 1:02:22
  it's only 52%. Among current college students
• 1:02:26
  surveyed, 33 % said they'd like to own a home
• 1:02:29
  after graduation, and I would like to sprout
• 1:02:31
  wings and fly. Among recent graduates, however,
• 1:02:35
  only 13 % actually got to do it. Meanwhile, 7
• 1:02:39
  % of students said they wanted to move back home,
• 1:02:42
  but 49 % actually did it. So employment's not
• 1:02:46
  really helping. 34 % of recent grads still don't
• 1:02:50
  have a full -time job. parental assistance continues
• 1:02:54
  well beyond housing. Another summary of the survey
• 1:02:57
  found 59 % of Gen Z will still receive financial
• 1:03:01
  help from their parents, while nearly a third
• 1:03:04
  said their parents pay all their bills. Geez.
• 1:03:07
  The kids you went to Columbia with, Ted, that's
• 1:03:11
  them. Not anymore. They're my age. No, I mean,
• 1:03:18
  it's those types of kids. They don't change.
• 1:03:20
  It's the same thing. it's all the rich kids,
• 1:03:22
  their parents will continue to pay their bills
• 1:03:24
  because that's the way it's always been. Well,
• 1:03:25
  that's true. But I will, there is one upside
• 1:03:28
  to this, Ted, and this is me speaking as an Asian
• 1:03:31
  American. Again, like I'm the first American
• 1:03:33
  born in my family. So I have a probably a more
• 1:03:37
  a closer connection to like my family's homeland.
• 1:03:43
  Right. Because I'm the first, I'm the very first
• 1:03:45
  American in my family. And I would say Growing
• 1:03:50
  up in a multi -generational household. I think
• 1:03:53
  I view it as better I often joke about about
• 1:04:00
  how with with white Americans like that when
• 1:04:04
  you get old and Unable to work and need a diaper.
• 1:04:08
  You just get shipped off to a nursing home. Whereas
• 1:04:10
  in Asian culture we Cherish our old people and
• 1:04:14
  we keep them at home with us because we owe them
• 1:04:16
  that as as a sense of duty and respect to them
• 1:04:20
  Right, and that's a cultural thing because I
• 1:04:22
  grew up in a multi -generational home Granted
• 1:04:26
  a lot of it was because we were poor immigrants,
• 1:04:28
  you know running away from from a communist war
• 1:04:31
  in Laos and and before that in China but I think
• 1:04:37
  there was a lot of upsides to that because I
• 1:04:40
  got to know my heritage better. I got to understand
• 1:04:43
  dual cultural. I had a dual cultural experience.
• 1:04:47
  I got to be close to my grandparents. I got to
• 1:04:50
  be at home. And granted, I moved away when I
• 1:04:52
  was 18. I had to come back home at least once
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  after college to reassess my life after the car
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  business. But I think it's a good thing to have
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  a multi -generational I don't I don't necessarily
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  think it's a bad thing. I think it could be good
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  for American culture, actually, because it was
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  only up until like the 20th century before that
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  white American culture. I mean, we're talking
• 1:05:16
  Little House on the Prairie, right? We're talking
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  like the the the prequel to Yellowstone. That
• 1:05:22
  is more reflective of of all cultures around
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  the world where you don't push off your kid as
• 1:05:28
  soon as they turn 18. that you're there together.
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  The struggle is together. And that's the whole
• 1:05:34
  point of family. And I don't think that's necessarily
• 1:05:36
  a bad thing. And maybe this is a return to how
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  the baseline of how things should be that that
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  you should be close. Like, why should I have
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  a kid and culture, American culture dictating
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  to my son that once he turns 18, he should be
• 1:05:52
  far flung across the country or maybe around
• 1:05:54
  the world from me? Like why should that be the
• 1:05:58
  norm? Shouldn't it be more normal that he's close
• 1:06:01
  to his family? Because literally up until until
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  like the mid 20th century It was normal across
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  all cultures to have even your adult children
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  at home I think it's a good thing. It builds
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  family values and you're in the struggle together.
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  I don't think it's a bad thing Be careful. You
• 1:06:20
  sound like a right ringer. I mean Ben Shapiro
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  call you a member of the woke, right? I don't
• 1:06:26
  even know what woke right means. Can you explain
• 1:06:29
  this, what that means? I don't get that. I don't
• 1:06:31
  know what that means either. It means that if
• 1:06:34
  you have views similar to me, similar to Tucker
• 1:06:37
  Carlson, basically if you're the populist right,
• 1:06:39
  if you believe that Israel has too much influence
• 1:06:41
  and stuff, then you're a Nazi. You should be
• 1:06:44
  shut down. You should be deplatformed. What about
• 1:06:47
  the family thing? Well, because what Ben Shapiro
• 1:06:50
  says is that you have no right. to be able to
• 1:06:53
  grow up and live in the town in which you were
• 1:06:56
  born. If you can't afford to do it, you have
• 1:06:57
  to go someplace else where you're able to. Basically,
• 1:06:59
  you have no roots. That's the argument. Oh, so
• 1:07:02
  he advocates the opposite of what I said. Yes.
• 1:07:05
  So he says, if you can't afford to be where you
• 1:07:07
  are, just because your family's been in that
• 1:07:09
  one town for eight generations. then you should
• 1:07:12
  get up and you should move. You should go someplace
• 1:07:14
  else. You should go sell your soul to some soulless
• 1:07:17
  corporation. Maybe you get yourself a $5 burrito.
• 1:07:21
  No, a $20 burrito. Well, he's saying that a Del
• 1:07:24
  Taco is only five, so you're fine. Okay. But
• 1:07:29
  he'll get the explosive diarrhea, cyclospora.
• 1:07:33
  But I mean, literally though, that's his argument.
• 1:07:34
  It's like you have no right to the land in which
• 1:07:36
  you live, unless you're Jewish, in which case
• 1:07:38
  then the whole fucking world has to support you
• 1:07:41
  as you take Aliyah back to your homeland. To
• 1:07:42
  return to the Holy Land? Right. But if you're
• 1:07:47
  just, if you're some, if you're some goy, enjoy
• 1:07:50
  your goy slop, get up, go someplace else, find
• 1:07:53
  a place to live. Like me looking at the bright
• 1:07:55
  side of Gen Z coming home to live with their
• 1:07:59
  Gen X and boomer parents. I I think there is
• 1:08:03
  an upside to this I think um, you know unless
• 1:08:05
  to test point it's love you Well unless you take
• 1:08:09
  the test point where it's just on top of each
• 1:08:11
  other and then you can't get married You can't
• 1:08:13
  have you have sex. You can't have kids then then
• 1:08:15
  the entire system collapses Well, it never seemed
• 1:08:19
  like a problem me being you know, ethnically
• 1:08:21
  Lao and Chinese never seemed to be a problem
• 1:08:24
  in China just saying There's a whole lot of us.
• 1:08:28
  But to Ted's point, the reason why the Japanese
• 1:08:31
  birth rate has imploded is because they literally
• 1:08:33
  have no place to go because they're in multi
• 1:08:35
  -generational homes. Both of these things should
• 1:08:38
  not be true at once. It's a binary choice. They're
• 1:08:40
  either true or it's not. The Japanese also work
• 1:08:43
  a thousand hours a week. They don't sleep, so
• 1:08:47
  they come home and they crash out or die at their
• 1:08:50
  dinner table. Or die at their desk, most likely.
• 1:08:54
  Like, and I don't know about Japanese culture,
• 1:08:57
  but like in Chinese and Lao culture, like family
• 1:08:59
  is a the family thing is a big deal. And it's
• 1:09:03
  cherished having having, you know, your your
• 1:09:07
  big extended family as close to you under the
• 1:09:10
  same roof, preferably, if not possible, then
• 1:09:12
  at least in the same town. And so you're saying
• 1:09:14
  Ben Shapiro would would shit on my my views.
• 1:09:18
  Oh, he does actively. And he on his show all
• 1:09:22
  the time, right? Yeah, you would be considered
• 1:09:25
  a member of the Wilk Reich. You, Manila, would
• 1:09:27
  be a Nazi because your views are outside the
• 1:09:33
  pale. You are a nativist, and you seem to think
• 1:09:37
  that your son has some kind of entitlement to
• 1:09:41
  the life that you currently have. He has no expectation
• 1:09:47
  to be able to use your life as a foundation to
• 1:09:50
  make his life better. No, that's not how this
• 1:09:52
  works. If you cannot afford to live where you
• 1:09:54
  live, to live where you grew up, then you must
• 1:09:58
  go someplace else. You must migrate. I migrated
• 1:10:03
  because I can't afford life in Los Angeles. As
• 1:10:06
  a struggling journalist at the time, I had to
• 1:10:08
  move way out here, take a job in DC, away from
• 1:10:12
  my family. Of course, after I got my life situated
• 1:10:16
  here and had better opportunities. Thanks to
• 1:10:19
  RT, you know, I got married, had bought a house
• 1:10:22
  and all of that, bought a couple of properties
• 1:10:24
  because of that. And I was able to move my mom
• 1:10:27
  and family here with me into a multi -generational
• 1:10:30
  home. Like, I think that's a good thing. So I
• 1:10:34
  did reverse Gen Z. But your son's not entitled
• 1:10:36
  to that. He's not entitled to the life that you've
• 1:10:39
  had. I think the articles shit on that idea.
• 1:10:44
  I think they are propagating the idea of what
• 1:10:48
  you just said that Ben Shapiro thinks. I think
• 1:10:50
  for us making fun of the Gen Zers that have to
• 1:10:54
  come home because they can't afford a home, you
• 1:10:57
  shouldn't make fun of them. I think there's an
• 1:11:00
  upside to this. It is a societal disaster reflecting
• 1:11:05
  a terrible economy, right? But it reminds me
• 1:11:07
  a little bit of The Waltons. The Waltons is a
• 1:11:10
  multi -generational household and it shows, the
• 1:11:14
  show really highlights all the advantages of
• 1:11:18
  having three or four generations living under
• 1:11:20
  the same roof, helping each other, sharing, imparting
• 1:11:23
  wisdom to one another. But the subtext was it
• 1:11:26
  takes place during the Great Depression of the
• 1:11:28
  1930s. And of course, this was after a time when
• 1:11:32
  people had already started to move away. And
• 1:11:35
  they were only the subtext is they're only there
• 1:11:37
  because they have to be due to economic necessity.
• 1:11:41
  And therefore they it ends up having some advantages.
• 1:11:46
  But it reflects a country that's in grave crisis.
• 1:11:49
  So the two things can be true at once. One is
• 1:11:52
  the economy, the US economy blows. And two, you
• 1:11:57
  know, multi generational living has a lot of
• 1:12:00
  advantages. Yeah, I think I agree with that,
• 1:12:03
  Ted. I think especially if you are married, right?
• 1:12:09
  If you're old enough to be married and whatever,
• 1:12:12
  I think because it's the norm in true, true Eastern
• 1:12:17
  Asian culture to be in a multi -generational
• 1:12:20
  household. I don't know about the Japanese, again.
• 1:12:22
  I can't talk about us mainlanders. You know your
• 1:12:28
  adult married kid is hooking up with their spouse
• 1:12:31
  like you just kind of Pretend it's not happening
• 1:12:34
  and you hope you wish them well and that's and
• 1:12:38
  that's not the American in me speaking That's
• 1:12:40
  I mean I grew up in that household like my brother
• 1:12:42
  came along. I'm seven years older than my brother
• 1:12:45
  My grandparents, you know couldn't have been
• 1:12:48
  like oh How did a second kid come along seven
• 1:12:51
  years later like? my daughter was not banging
• 1:12:55
  her. Again, the Mary and Joseph surprise? No,
• 1:12:58
  I don't think so. So, you know, my grandparents,
• 1:13:01
  like, they didn't care that my mom and dad were
• 1:13:05
  banging. That's what people do. You're married.
• 1:13:08
  You should bang. Well, I mean, that's the norm
• 1:13:10
  throughout all of history. And to your point,
• 1:13:13
  Manila, the trap that we're falling into, that
• 1:13:16
  the Chinese are falling into, that South Korea
• 1:13:18
  is currently in, Japan is in, is that we are
• 1:13:21
  sacrificing our futures for corporate profits
• 1:13:24
  and we're burning our, we are burning our families.
• 1:13:27
  We're burning the future for the here and the
• 1:13:30
  now chasing the power of the almighty dollar
• 1:13:32
  and no society, no civilization, no culture,
• 1:13:36
  no nation can sustain that. Yeah, I agree. The
• 1:13:39
  Walton's were able to make it work because they
• 1:13:41
  had a big house, they owned the land. they were
• 1:13:44
  landowners, the bourgeoisie would have put them
• 1:13:46
  to death for being those evil, those evil landowners.
• 1:13:50
  But that's why they're able to do it. They had
• 1:13:51
  homesteader. Yeah, they had the land, they had
• 1:13:54
  the home, they're able to do it. And they had
• 1:13:55
  generational wealth. Yeah, didn't they own a
• 1:13:57
  lumber yard in the show? Something? Yeah, I don't
• 1:14:00
  remember. But yeah, so like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:14:03
  say, look, for the Gen Z ears that might hear
• 1:14:06
  this or listening, like I, I think It shouldn't
• 1:14:12
  even be acknowledged as like, oh, it's brave
• 1:14:14
  of you to like, go ask your parents to move back
• 1:14:17
  in. No, I think it's a great thing. I think this
• 1:14:20
  is an opportunity for you as an adult to have
• 1:14:22
  a different kind of relationship with your parents
• 1:14:25
  because the dynamic isn't necessarily like, mom
• 1:14:28
  and dad, like, I don't want to, you know, you're
• 1:14:30
  not that kid anymore. You're a grown adult. You
• 1:14:33
  can have a new relationship form with your parents
• 1:14:36
  before they die. You can, you have like, I wouldn't
• 1:14:40
  be able to sit here and do this show right now
• 1:14:42
  if I hadn't moved my mom in to my house. I'm
• 1:14:47
  so grateful that I have a multi -generational
• 1:14:50
  home, the opportunity to have that. And so I
• 1:14:53
  think there could be a boon here for the culture.
• 1:14:56
  And it's not like my mom didn't think my daughter
• 1:14:59
  just appeared out of, like, ha! Oh, like Mary
• 1:15:02
  and Joseph. Like she knows, she knows what's
• 1:15:04
  happening upstairs. Like she ain't dumb. Then
• 1:15:07
  every member of the family must contribute in
• 1:15:10
  order to pay for a house without a hundred year
• 1:15:13
  mortgage in order to make that thing happen.
• 1:15:15
  Listen, if you're going to live with mom and
• 1:15:17
  dad, then that means if you need to have a bigger
• 1:15:20
  house to be able to grow your family, then that
• 1:15:22
  means you've got to help pay that mortgage. It
• 1:15:25
  cannot just be on the parents. Equal, it's equitable.
• 1:15:32
  People contribute what they can. And I think
• 1:15:35
  that's been. You know how things are around the
• 1:15:39
  world, even in America, only up until like the
• 1:15:43
  mid century, you know, 19 somethings like fifties
• 1:15:47
  and sixties that did going away become the norm.
• 1:15:51
  It really wasn't the norm before that. So it's
• 1:15:55
  because it's because of no. corporate jobs, the
• 1:15:58
  interstate. Because they convinced they convinced
• 1:16:02
  young Americans that that's what they should
• 1:16:05
  do. They sold it to us in magazines that you
• 1:16:08
  should abandon your parents, you should abandon
• 1:16:10
  your elderly parents and grandma and grandpa,
• 1:16:13
  papa or whatever, that you should come work over
• 1:16:16
  here on in Wall Street. That this is the starting
• 1:16:19
  out like coming to the city 100 years ago and
• 1:16:22
  work 150 years ago and work in a factory. Right.
• 1:16:26
  Right. Like this is like leave, leave what you
• 1:16:28
  know, leave your family, leave, leave your town
• 1:16:31
  because you're a loser otherwise. That's what
• 1:16:33
  they marketed and, and it's worked. But I think
• 1:16:36
  it's now. It's also fiercely capitalistic, right?
• 1:16:39
  Like look out for yourself. Don't share, which
• 1:16:41
  is what socialism is. Don't share. It's backfired.
• 1:16:45
  It's backfired now. And we've come full circle
• 1:16:48
  to where Gen Z, we're at the end of the alphabet
• 1:16:51
  here, Z, we're at Z. They, you know, they're
• 1:16:55
  going to, we're going to start all over. And
• 1:16:57
  I don't think that's necessarily about - Well,
• 1:16:58
  also another thing it shows, and we'll go away
• 1:17:00
  with this because we're starting to run over,
• 1:17:03
  is it's really one of the failures of feminism,
• 1:17:06
  being married to capitalism, whether it is, because
• 1:17:08
  women are the backbone of the family. If the
• 1:17:11
  woman is at a cubicle for eight to 12 hours a
• 1:17:15
  day, whether you're in Shanghai, Tokyo, Seoul,
• 1:17:18
  or Boston, what happens to the family without
• 1:17:22
  that glue? It doesn't exist. That's I'm saying
• 1:17:26
  that this is a social pathogen that's infected
• 1:17:29
  the entire world and Corporately human beings
• 1:17:33
  need to stand up and say no more of this family
• 1:17:35
  is more important than corporate profits Yeah,
• 1:17:39
  I agree. It's just a lot of a lot of America's
• 1:17:43
  Like social ills stem from what that the younger
• 1:17:49
  generation Sees on their phone with like, you
• 1:17:53
  know, they have FOMO. They see Instagram. They
• 1:17:56
  see whatever of everybody living their best life
• 1:17:58
  It's all bullshit. But still they have this image
• 1:18:02
  of like oh I should be 22 years old and be on
• 1:18:05
  my own private jet. That's just not the reality
• 1:18:09
  and it's it's all made to Take families away
• 1:18:15
  from one another and go be a slave at some XYZ
• 1:18:19
  corporation That's the goal is to destroy the
• 1:18:23
  family to destroy the family be a tax mule and
• 1:18:27
  buy expensive health care because and when you
• 1:18:29
  when you eventually die by yourself and have
• 1:18:31
  your cat eat you um just be a pay that that's
• 1:18:36
  what makes you a you know a modern civilian american
• 1:18:41
  pillar of the community ted you just it's my
• 1:18:44
  it's my privilege to know that my cat will eat
• 1:18:47
  me someday I live to serve. He's a fine cat.
• 1:18:51
  He's a fine, beautiful cat. Yeah, and he needs
• 1:18:56
  to eat my eyes in order to keep his coat lustrous.
• 1:19:00
  I don't know. Look, Gen Z, don't feel bad. I
• 1:19:05
  know the economy's shit. I know the boomers handed
• 1:19:08
  you a fucked up outlook and it's not what you
• 1:19:12
  expected. But I hope the Gen Z years because
• 1:19:15
  I mean really I'm old enough to be a mom of a
• 1:19:18
  Gen Z er I have friends who are parents me. I
• 1:19:21
  mean my age who have kids in their 20s that are
• 1:19:24
  Gen Z and I would say like like look at this
• 1:19:28
  as an opportunity to have a new relationship
• 1:19:30
  with your family and build a new America where
• 1:19:34
  You're not chasing the almighty dollar and that
• 1:19:38
  that maybe you remember that family is important
• 1:19:40
  Maybe start there And then, I don't know, see
• 1:19:44
  what happens. Like maybe your mental health will
• 1:19:47
  improve. How about that? Maybe. I think so. I'm
• 1:19:53
  a big fan of the multi -generational home. I
• 1:19:59
  hated the nuclear family. I hated the fact that
• 1:20:01
  my grandparents lived in France and Chicago and
• 1:20:04
  I lived in Ohio. I didn't like that, you know?
• 1:20:07
  That's that I can't even imagine so like I'm
• 1:20:10
  so so so grateful my kids will know You know,
• 1:20:15
  we'll have my mom and my stepdad my dad passed
• 1:20:17
  away many years ago but I love that that they
• 1:20:20
  can have a direct connection to the old country
• 1:20:22
  and our culture and it won't die, you know, um
• 1:20:27
  and Maybe i'll have that opportunity to like
• 1:20:29
  my kids are gen alpha. So maybe maybe I'll have
• 1:20:33
  that opportunity. I think it's a boon. I hope
• 1:20:36
  Gen Z finds the bright side to this. I don't
• 1:20:40
  think it's, yes, it's shitty, but maybe, you
• 1:20:44
  know, later in your generation, you guys will
• 1:20:47
  be in a better position, just not right now.
• 1:20:49
  So take this opportunity to get to know your
• 1:20:51
  parents as adults, like try to be adults. I will
• 1:20:55
  say this does seem like more of a permanent than
• 1:20:57
  a cyclical trend. Like with AI, nobody knows,
• 1:21:03
  but it does feel like, but it does feel like
• 1:21:05
  because of AI. Yeah, AI stealing all of Gen Z's
• 1:21:09
  like, you know, like entry level white collar
• 1:21:11
  jobs. So I don't think, again, I don't think
• 1:21:14
  it's a bad thing. All through history around
• 1:21:17
  the world, living with your family is the norm.
• 1:21:21
  True. So there you go. Anyway, happy Monday.
• 1:21:26
  Like take heart. Take heart. Be nice to your
• 1:21:30
  your folks and the folks, you know, have a heart
• 1:21:32
  -to -heart with them. So anyway Adios amigos,
• 1:21:37
  I guess from your new your new what am I what
• 1:21:39
  am I called Robbie? What are these? You're woke,
• 1:21:42
  right? Woke, right woke woke, right, right? Oh,
• 1:21:46
  right like the third, right? Oh, I thought it
• 1:21:49
  meant like right hand No. They call you a Nazi.
• 1:21:54
  What do you do with a Nazi, Milla? Listen, that's
• 1:21:57
  why Mark Levin and Laura Loomer and these other
• 1:22:00
  sadistic fuckers, that's why they say this. You
• 1:22:03
  don't talk to Nazis. You don't negotiate with
• 1:22:06
  them. You don't platform them. You hit them or
• 1:22:08
  you kill them. That's the point. Woke Reich.
• 1:22:12
  Oh. Oh, that's lame. That's lame. These idiots.
• 1:22:17
  Well, whatever. They can go die far and alone
• 1:22:19
  from their families. It was coined. It was coined
• 1:22:23
  by Benjamin Netanyahu when he was having a meeting
• 1:22:25
  with a bunch of influencers last year after Charlie
• 1:22:27
  Kirk's death. He's the one that said, woke, right.
• 1:22:30
  And it just, it just took what I thought. I thought
• 1:22:34
  they were saying woke, right. Like right. Right.
• 1:22:37
  R I C H right. You, you are a Nazi. R E I C H
• 1:22:41
  right. Yeah. Right. woke right oh This whole
• 1:22:46
  time. I always I when I heard them say it. I
• 1:22:48
  thought they were saying our IG HT like the part
• 1:22:53
  of the conservative right ah Calling everyone
• 1:22:57
  Nazis. Okay. Okay. I'll talk to Nazis. You killed
• 1:23:00
  them Ted. You're French. Where you do the Nazi?
• 1:23:03
  There you go lame. That's the point lame Ben
• 1:23:07
  Shapiro's and Larry Loomers, whatever Bye, everybody.
• 1:23:13
  Happy Monday.