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The DiCecco Daily: Going Inside The Deep TE Class For The 2026 NFL Draft · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Everyone? Welcome in.
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  Speaker 2: This is Andrew Dchecko with another episode of to check
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  Speaker 2: O Daily. Hope everyone got a chance to check out
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  Speaker 2: the two part interview that I did with former Eagles
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  Speaker 2: tight end Chad Lewis. You can grab that in audio
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  Speaker 2: form on any major podcasting platform, or you can also
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: grab it on YouTube. Great stuff from Chad. He has
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  Speaker 2: a really compelling story. I'm not going to give it
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  Speaker 2: all away, but we covered pretty much everything from his
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  Speaker 2: start going to BYU as a walk.
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  Speaker 1: On all the way through his Eagles career.
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  Speaker 2: Some really fascinating stuff there, and I really enjoyed those conversations.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to really focus more on draft and free agency, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but I will mix in some of those interviews with
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  Speaker 2: some of the great stories of Eagles past.
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  Speaker 1: So keep an eye out for them.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to spend some time today because I
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  Speaker 2: wrote a really in depth story on Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 2: dot Com. Put a lot of time and effort into
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  Speaker 2: that to give you guys a comprehensive overview of the
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  Speaker 2: tight end room. Because the Eagles have, as I've mentioned
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  Speaker 2: many times, three players at that position that are going
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  Speaker 2: to be free agents in Dallas Goddard, Kylon Grantson and
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  Speaker 2: Grant Kyle Kata. And so there's a realistic possibility that
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  Speaker 2: this room is going to look completely different from the
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  Speaker 2: one that you saw last season, and really it has
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  Speaker 2: to because they were receiving centric, they lacked for a blocker,
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  Speaker 2: and I think you might see some more diversity in
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  Speaker 2: terms of skill set moving forward under Sean Mannion and
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  Speaker 2: run game coordinator Ryan Mahaffey. And so the NFL draft
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  Speaker 2: presents a multitude of players that all offer different types
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  Speaker 2: of skill sets, and I'm curious to see which way
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles go if they go to tight ends, if
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  Speaker 2: they go one in free agency and one in the draft.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel pretty confident that this is the year
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to come away with the tight end
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  Speaker 2: and they.
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  Speaker 1: Really have to to be able to fill out that room.
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  Speaker 2: And so we'll go through some of the players from
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  Speaker 2: the combine that I spoke to. I have their their
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  Speaker 2: testing measurables and you know, all of the you know,
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  Speaker 2: all of the quotes that I thought were really relevant
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  Speaker 2: to the conversation here, and so we'll start with Kenyon Sadik,
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  Speaker 2: the tight end from Oregon. He's at the head of
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  Speaker 2: the class. Here six foot three, two hundred and forty
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  Speaker 2: one pounds, ran a four to three nine, a forty
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  Speaker 2: three and a half inch vertical, eleven to two broad jump,
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  Speaker 2: and twenty six reps on the bench press. Look, he's
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  Speaker 2: twenty years old. He played in forty two games for
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  Speaker 2: the Ducks. He counted for eight hundred and ninety two
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  Speaker 2: yards eleven touchdowns on eighty catches during his career, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought that the twenty twenty four season served as
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  Speaker 2: the table setter, and then in twenty twenty five was
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  Speaker 2: the breakthrough where he had five hundred and sixty yards
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  Speaker 2: and eight touchdowns on fifty one catches, First team All
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten. So I mean, this is a player that
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  Speaker 2: I think kind of reminds me a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: Vernon Davis if you remember him from his time, really
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  Speaker 2: his heyday with the forty nine ers. A versatile player,
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  Speaker 2: strong and physical and really well rounded. And I think
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  Speaker 2: because teams have placed an emphasis on dynamic move tight
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  Speaker 2: ends to create mismatches. One of the quotes that Kenyon
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  Speaker 2: Sadig had I think gave a good perspective on the subject,
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  Speaker 2: and he spoke to the Spike in Demand.
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  Speaker 1: He said versatility is huge.
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  Speaker 2: Being able to create explosive past plays but also being
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  Speaker 2: able to run the ball. It creates a lot of
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  Speaker 2: mismatches on the defensive side, whether they're a nickel or
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  Speaker 2: base or whatever it is. So I think if you
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  Speaker 2: have a great tight end or a couple great tight ends,
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  Speaker 2: it really helps out your offense as a whole. When
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  Speaker 2: he talked about areas of opportunity, he mentioned the point
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  Speaker 2: of attack blocking or perimeter blocking are areas that he
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  Speaker 2: can quote unquote clean up on. But he also finished
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  Speaker 2: his career at Oregon with less than one thousand receiving
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  Speaker 2: yards and that was brought to the forefront by a
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  Speaker 2: questioner and his response to what he'd tell NFL teams
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  Speaker 2: that the topic was broached was presumably it will qualify
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  Speaker 2: as music to the year for most teams, and he says,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it just goes down to I'm willing to
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  Speaker 2: do whatever my team wants me to do.
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  Speaker 1: Production is one thing, but also being a great teammate as.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think I've done that, so one just
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  Speaker 2: displaying my capabilities mentally, but also the attributes I can
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  Speaker 2: bring to a team, not just snapcount, but on special
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  Speaker 2: teams as well, so all these attributes, if you look
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  Speaker 2: at snapcount, you're missing.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think I bring a lot of value
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  Speaker 1: to a team.
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  Speaker 2: He did not meet with the Eagles at the combine,
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  Speaker 2: at least when he spoke on Thursday, but some of
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  Speaker 2: the players that he mentioned at the next level that
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  Speaker 2: he views among the elite Trade McBride of the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 2: George Kittle the forty nine ers, and Kyle Pitts of
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  Speaker 2: the Falcons, who was just tagged as a few who excel.
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  Speaker 1: In both the run game and generating exposive play.
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  Speaker 2: So that's Kenyon sadik Eli Stowers, the tight end from Vanderbilt,
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  Speaker 2: is my second rated tight end in this class. Is
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  Speaker 2: measurables six foot four, two hundred and thirty nine pounds,
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  Speaker 2: combine testing numbers four or five, one forty yard dash,
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  Speaker 2: forty five and a half inch vertical, and an eleven
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  Speaker 2: to three broad jump. He was well traveled. His career
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  Speaker 2: began at Texas A and M, then he went to
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  Speaker 2: New Mexico. Then he became a household name at Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 2: But for those two years at Vanderbilt he was on
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  Speaker 2: my radar. I was really interested to see how he
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  Speaker 2: was going to fare this year. Had a good season
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  Speaker 2: All SEC First Team in twenty twenty four, he had
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  Speaker 2: forty nine catches for six thirty eight and five touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: and then last season he had seven sixty nine and
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  Speaker 2: four touchdowns on sixty two catches, and there was even
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  Speaker 2: a two game span where he had nineteen catches for
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  Speaker 2: two sixty eight and two touchdowns and games against Texas
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  Speaker 2: and Auburn. He said, my strengths are in my athleticism
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  Speaker 2: being a matchup problem because I have a rare ability
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  Speaker 2: in terms of athletics and size to be able to
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  Speaker 2: create some mismatches and then also being able to catch
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  Speaker 2: the ball. I've taken a lot of strides in my
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  Speaker 2: run blocking over the last two years. I think I've
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  Speaker 2: gotten a lot better, and I think I continue to
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  Speaker 2: get a lot better as well.
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  Speaker 1: He's a converted quarterback. He's only been playing.
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  Speaker 2: The position for three seasons, and I think he's always
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  Speaker 2: scratching the surface here. I think it's fair to classify
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  Speaker 2: him right now as more of a finesse player. His
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  Speaker 2: blocking does need some work, and he even said as much.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I would say my blocking when asked about
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  Speaker 2: what he needs to work on because that was the
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  Speaker 2: newest thing to me, newest technique, newest movement coming from quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: that was something you never did as a quarterback. I
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  Speaker 2: think I've gotten a lot better, but I want to
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  Speaker 2: continue to learn, watch film and hone my technique. For
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  Speaker 2: those wondering, Eli Stowers is twenty two years old, and
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  Speaker 2: some of the influences that he mentioned Travis Kelcey of
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs from route running forty nine ers, George Kittle
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  Speaker 2: in terms of mindset. He also gave an odd to
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  Speaker 2: an all time great in Chargers tight end, Antonio Gates.
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  Speaker 1: I like him a lot.
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  Speaker 2: He certainly helped himself with a standout performance at the
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  Speaker 2: NFL Scouting Combine. And then the third player on this list,
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  Speaker 2: Max Claire from Ohio State, one of two Ohio state
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  Speaker 2: tight ends I'm going to talk about here, six foot four,
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  Speaker 2: two forty six did not test at.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL Scouting Combine.
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  Speaker 2: He has a natural feel for route running and finding
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  Speaker 2: the saw spots in zone. I think he translates favorably
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  Speaker 2: as a security blanket for quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: He can play through contact.
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  Speaker 2: Reminds me a little bit of Zach Gertz, but gives
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  Speaker 2: you a little bit more in terms of blocking prowess. Also,
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  Speaker 2: twenty two years old, started his career at Purdue, transferred
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  Speaker 2: to Ohio State ahead of the twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 2: Had forty three catches for four forty eight and two touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: and then if you're looking at his career, three and
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine receiving yards and six touchdowns on one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and sixteen receptions. This is a high level athlete that
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  Speaker 2: I think helped himself in terms of the interview process.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see what he can do at Ohio State's pro day,
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  Speaker 2: but he did highlight his strengths at the position at Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 2: He said, get down the field efficiently, create a separation
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  Speaker 2: up top for the quarterback to have a spot to
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  Speaker 2: throw the ball, and then improve on creating movement at
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  Speaker 2: the point of attack against longer defenders. It's always a
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  Speaker 2: work in progress and something I've always developed throughout my
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  Speaker 2: college career and want to continue to develop. Claire mentioned
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  Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers George Kittle, Lion Sam Laporter, and
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals Trey McBride as players at the next level that
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  Speaker 2: he models his game after, and he also said that
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  Speaker 2: he had a formal interview with the Philadelphia Eagles. He
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  Speaker 2: also sort of gave a nod to Dallas Godder when
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  Speaker 2: he was asked, and he said, definitely, I look at
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  Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard. In terms of studying Dallas godd he said, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: I think he plays the game the right way. His
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  Speaker 2: route running and smoothness is something every tight end wants
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  Speaker 2: to be like. So I take bits and pieces from
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  Speaker 2: him as well. Oscar Dealt from Georgia six foot five,
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and forty five pounds, did not test at
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  Speaker 2: the scouting Combine. I should say that according to Zach Klein,
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  Speaker 2: a WSB Sports, the NFL will not allow Delp or
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  Speaker 2: would not allow Delp to participate in the on field
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  Speaker 2: testing portion of the combine because an X ray during
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  Speaker 2: the medical evaluation revealed a hairline fracture in his foot.
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  Speaker 2: He will have an opportunity, however, to test on March
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  Speaker 2: eighteenth at George's pro day.
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  Speaker 1: He always started.
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  Speaker 2: He started fourteen games last season for Georgia, but he
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  Speaker 2: was utilized sparsely as a receiver. Caught twenty passes for
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  Speaker 2: two sixty one in a touchdown, and then in fifty
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  Speaker 2: five games he caught seventy passes for eight fifty four
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  Speaker 2: and nine touchdowns. He's a lengthy receiver, he offers plus
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  Speaker 2: movement ability and spatial awareness, and he's a natural downfield separator.
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  Speaker 2: The reliability of his hands also shouldn't be overlooked. And
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  Speaker 2: at Georgia he garnered a reputation as a blocker, though
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  Speaker 2: he suggested it was a role he grew into over time.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I can be put anywhere. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I'm looked at as a blocking tight end. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: receiving tight end that learned how to block. I enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: I fell in love with blocking. I mean, who doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like overpowering another man against his will?
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  Speaker 1: Delp.
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  Speaker 2: He finds himself in a crowded house of talent at
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  Speaker 2: the position, but he was confident, and I think this
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  Speaker 2: answer in terms of what separates him from the pack
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  Speaker 2: really supports that. He said, I think just the way
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  Speaker 2: I handle my business in the run game and on
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  Speaker 2: the perimeter. I feel like football nowadays have become a perimeter.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of things they are run on the perimeter.
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  Speaker 2: In order to have a successful football team, you need
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  Speaker 2: to have a tight end who can own the sea
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  Speaker 2: gap and own the perimeter.
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  Speaker 1: Those are two things that I take a lot of
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  Speaker 1: pride in with my game.
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  Speaker 2: He also had a formal meeting with the Eagles Thursday
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  Speaker 2: at the NFL Scouting Combine. Joe Royer from Cincinnati six
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  Speaker 2: foot five, two forty seven did not test at the
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  Speaker 2: scouting combine. You're noticing a common theme here. He's twenty
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  Speaker 2: four years old, so a little older there. Began his
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  Speaker 2: college career at twenty twenty and at Ohio State, played
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  Speaker 2: in fourteen games before transferring to Cincinnati following the twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three season, and as a member of the Bearcats,
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  Speaker 2: Royer produced nine to thirty seven receiving yards and seven
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns on seventy nine catches over twenty four games, and
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  Speaker 2: at the podium in Indy, he outlined the strong points
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  Speaker 2: of his game. I come from a wide receiver background,
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  Speaker 2: so I feel like I play well out in space,
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  Speaker 2: running and catching the ball and out on the perimeter,
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  Speaker 2: so I feel like I'm more of a fluent h
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  Speaker 2: back tight end. But I did a lot of inline
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  Speaker 2: stuff this year as well. Good size, moves well in
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  Speaker 2: confined space. But he had most of his success on
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  Speaker 2: short to intermediate throws, which is really where I see
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  Speaker 2: him making his money at the next level. He moves
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  Speaker 2: well enough and has a really wide catch radius. He
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  Speaker 2: also has worn a number of hats, so I think
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  Speaker 2: that that really lends itself to him being able to
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  Speaker 2: find a role early in his career, and he also
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  Speaker 2: is a pretty sound blocker. Travis Kelce, being a former
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati player, has been a big influence on him. They
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  Speaker 2: have a relationship, but at this time, Royer is likely
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  Speaker 2: viewed as an early Day three prospect. Sam Rousch from
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  Speaker 2: Stanford is one of the more underrated players at this position.
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  Speaker 2: One of my favorite tight ends in this draft class.
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  Speaker 2: Six foot six two sixty seven four to seven had
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  Speaker 2: a thirty eight and a half inch vertical a ten
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  Speaker 2: to six broad jump in twenty five reps on the
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  Speaker 2: bench press. He arrived at Stanford in twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: He remained there all four seasons. He was mostly a blocker,
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  Speaker 2: but it was late in his He had a breakout
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  Speaker 2: campaign forty nine catches for over five hundred yards last
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  Speaker 2: year for the Stanford Cardinals and two hundred and one
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  Speaker 2: receiving yards and four touchdowns on one hundred and nineteen
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  Speaker 2: catches for his career. Roush is tough, extremely physical at
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  Speaker 2: the point of attack, talked about his violent mentality, moving
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  Speaker 2: a man against his will from point eight to point B.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a quote that they had in their
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  Speaker 2: locker room. And so I look at what he can bring.
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  Speaker 2: He has, the body type, he has, the mentality, and
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  Speaker 2: his physicality are things that I believe can help him
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  Speaker 2: translate to an effective blocker at the next level. And
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  Speaker 2: he's also come into his own a little bit as
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  Speaker 2: a receiver. And I think when you factor in all
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  Speaker 2: of those things, he's not a burner, but he is
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  Speaker 2: someone who can kind of reminds me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of an AJ Barner if you're looking at the Seattle
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks and how effective he was, he can be a
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  Speaker 2: red zone option. So one of my favorite tight ends
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  Speaker 2: in this class, probably getting a little bit overlooked here
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  Speaker 2: in the early stages.
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  Speaker 2: And then finally we have willkas Merik, the other Ohio
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  Speaker 2: state tight end six foot five and a half over
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty pounds, reminds me a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of Jack Stole. So he doesn't have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: production as a receiver, but just seeing him at the
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  Speaker 2: podium light up when talking about blocking and the violence
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  Speaker 2: and imposing your will on another player, I think really
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  Speaker 2: lends itself to him being a big time asset to
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  Speaker 2: an offense. When you look at all the different offenses
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL that.
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  Speaker 1: Are viewed among the elite.
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  Speaker 2: They all have a tight end there who can do
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  Speaker 2: some of the dirty work, someone who's willing to do that,
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  Speaker 2: and he certainly fits the bill for doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, he's not a productive receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Spent his first three years at Ohio and was sparsely
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  Speaker 2: utilized as a pass catcher. Caught about seventeen receptions I
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  Speaker 2: think over his two seasons at Ohio State, so he
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: didn't really factor all that much into their offensive equation.
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  Speaker 1: But if you were to watch the Buckeyes last.
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  Speaker 2: Season, you saw, whether it was in the run game
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  Speaker 2: or fring up teammates in the passing game, doing that grimy,
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  Speaker 2: gritty yeoman's job that few are willing to do was
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  Speaker 2: essential to their offensive overall functionality. So that's a player
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  Speaker 2: that I really like as a late day three option.
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  Speaker 2: He would be a good fit if the Eagles were
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  Speaker 2: to double dip at the tight end position. More on
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: all of this at a later time, but that's sort
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: of my tight end overview. I just gave you a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: bunch of different players to keep an eye on, and
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: we'll see where the Eagles go. They've expressed interest in
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: a number of these players. When you hear about the
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: meetings that they had, and that really shouldn't.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Be a surprise.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Now we'll see who's brought in on thirty visits and
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the pro day attendances from Eagles evaluators and so on
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: and so forth. But for now, that's going to do
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: it for this edition of the Czecho Deli. Andrew Deceeco
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: here signing off, and I'll catch you all on the
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: next one.