Latest / Something Extra / Designing Healthcare Around the Human Experience w/ Dr. Hossain Marandi
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- 0:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: Here at SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital, the original Glennon,
- 0:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: OG, as we lovingly call her, she has served this community
- 0:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: for seventy years.
- 0:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we wanted to make sure that we were true to that legacy as
- 0:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: we transition to a new
- 0:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: building and make sure that we continue that same mission for more than seventy
- 0:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: years in the future in the new building.
- 0:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: And then they came to the design, and that's where we, go back to
- 0:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: what I talked about earlier, the inclusivity and the listening.
- 0:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 0:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: I'm supposed to lead this, but there's so many people that are going to
- 0:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: be in that hospital day to day that needed to have that voice.
- 0:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: So starting with our physicians, nurses, environmental
- 0:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: staff, our cafeteria,
- 0:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: folks, patients, families, parents,
- 0:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: everyone was brought around the table and allowed to
- 0:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: bring in their insights, their views,
- 0:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: because they were gonna be using this hospital day in and day out.
- 1:06Lisa Nichols: It takes something a little more to lead with impact.
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- 1:45Lisa Nichols: Dr.
- 1:46Lisa Nichols: Hossein Marandi is a Iranian refugee who escaped the nineteen seventy
- 1:50Lisa Nichols: nine revolution on foot with his family and experienced and instilled a lifelong
- 1:54Lisa Nichols: devotion to Catholic health care ministries due to the radical generosity that
- 1:58Lisa Nichols: the church showed his family.
- 2:00Lisa Nichols: Now serving as the president of SSM Health Cardinal Glennon, he moved
- 2:04Lisa Nichols: his family to Saint Louis to help design a brand new family centered fourteen
- 2:08Lisa Nichols: story children's hospital from the ground up.
- 2:11Lisa Nichols: Well, Dr.
- 2:12Lisa Nichols: Marandi, I have been looking so forward to this conversation with you.
- 2:16Lisa Nichols: Thank you so much for making the time to be on the show today.
- 2:20Lisa Nichols: I cannot wait for our listeners to learn more about your story, learn
- 2:24Lisa Nichols: more about cardinal Glennon and the vision.
- 2:27Lisa Nichols: You guys have a lot of things happening there, don't you?
- 2:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: We do.
- 2:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: And thank you very much for the time.
- 2:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: Really excited to be able to talk about, my journey here,
- 2:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: to Cardinal Glennon and really spend time on talking about the great services,
- 2:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: and the devotion that we have to the community and to children's health care
- 2:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: here at Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital.
- 2:47Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 2:48Lisa Nichols: It really truly is remarkable.
- 2:51Lisa Nichols: I my dear friend, Susan Conrad, is on your board.
- 2:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 2:55Lisa Nichols: And she invited me recently to a presentation that you did,
- 3:00Lisa Nichols: and, I was just so blown away by everything.
- 3:03Lisa Nichols: I mean, I learned a lot that I didn't know, and I'm right here
- 3:06Lisa Nichols: in Saint Louis.
- 3:07Lisa Nichols: So I'm just excited for our listeners to, to learn from
- 3:11Lisa Nichols: you today.
- 3:12Lisa Nichols: But you truly have one of the most remarkable life stories
- 3:17Lisa Nichols: that I have encountered.
- 3:18Lisa Nichols: I mean, you really do.
- 3:19Lisa Nichols: Can you take us back?
- 3:21Lisa Nichols: I mean, because you grew up in Iran.
- 3:22Lisa Nichols: Can you take us back to growing up and some of your memories
- 3:26Lisa Nichols: and some of the things that happened there?
- 3:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: Sure.
- 3:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: Sure.
- 3:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: I'd start off by saying that Susan is a wonderful wonderful person, wonderful
- 3:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: human being.
- 3:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: We're really excited to have her, as part of our our board.
- 3:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: I usually don't like to talk a lot about myself because it's really the
- 3:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: the, the organization and and the the calling that I'd like
- 3:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: to talk about.
- 3:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: But, I'll take your listeners back a little
- 3:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: bit, to my past.
- 3:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: As I think through my journey to get here, I as as you mentioned,
- 4:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: I was originally born and raised in the Middle East in Iran.
- 4:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: I, was a very sick child myself growing up,
- 4:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: always in the hospital, always at a doctor's office.
- 4:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: And my first mentor or,
- 4:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: I would say was my pediatrician, who also happened to be my uncle
- 4:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: and my next door neighbor.
- 4:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: So it was perfect, opportunity for, that,
- 4:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: person to really shape my life, and who I became later on.
- 4:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: Knowing that I spent so much time being sick myself, I knew that
- 4:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: my calling was to grow up and help other children feel better.
- 4:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that was always the impetus of what I wanted to do.
- 4:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: Obviously, growing up in, poor in the Middle East,
- 4:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: not the biggest
- 4:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: opportunity to be able to to grow and to get into that
- 4:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: that field.
- 4:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: So as I continue to grow up there, in Iran, obviously
- 4:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: something big happened back in nineteen seventy nine, the the Islamic revolution
- 5:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: that completely changed everyone's life, including myself.
- 5:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: My family was ostracized for many reasons after that, that revolution.
- 5:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: And, my father knew that in order for myself and
- 5:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: my sister to have a future and, for us to be safe and to
- 5:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: be able to grow up, to be good members of society, we
- 5:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: needed to leave.
- 5:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: And, at that time, my family decided to pack up everything and
- 5:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: escape from Iran.
- 5:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: And it was literally escaping from Iran, having to pay,
- 5:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: smugglers to smuggle you across the border into other countries
- 5:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: and hope for the best.
- 5:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: So my family, did exactly that, just like many other families
- 5:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: of Persian descent during that time that left the country.
- 5:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: We, ended up in Afghanistan,
- 5:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: later on in Pakistan, and had the opportunity to,
- 5:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: go to Spain as refugees, after a while.
- 6:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: So my family, flew out to to Spain
- 6:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: and was placed in a, kind of a refugee camp with
- 6:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: many, many others who had come to to, Spain at that time.
- 6:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we were in Madrid, and that's when really you think
- 6:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: back about everything that's happened in your life, and sometimes you look at all
- 6:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: the, all the things and think that it was a negative, but everything had
- 6:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: a purpose.
- 6:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: And when you think back at that time, where we were,
- 6:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: situated there in Madrid,
- 6:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: the place was right next door to a Catholic church.
- 6:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: And, my younger sister, Mary,
- 6:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: we would go by the church to get clothes, food, just like
- 6:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: anybody that is in need, reaches out to the to the church, and
- 6:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: we did that.
- 6:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: Interestingly, the head, sister at that, church was also
- 6:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: sister Mary.
- 6:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: And sister Mary and my sister Mary got to be really good friends, and
- 6:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: they got to sit there and they would play with dolls, and I still
- 7:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: remember the two of them.
- 7:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: And when, sister Mary and, the Catholic church heard
- 7:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: the our plight of what what we had gone through and what we were
- 7:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: trying to do, which is to to be able to find a way to
- 7:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: come to the United States.
- 7:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: The Catholic church, there, sponsored my family, to
- 7:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: become refugees, and that, one,
- 7:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: moment of
- 7:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: grace and time really shaped the rest of my life.
- 7:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we were able to leave, Spain and come to the United States as
- 7:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: political refugees.
- 7:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: And that,
- 7:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: that moment in time allowed me to shape the rest of my career.
- 7:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: Obviously, having the opportunity to come to the United States and make something out
- 7:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: of myself, I always say I am the
- 7:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: poster child for the American dream.
- 7:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: What every, person across the world dreams of being
- 7:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: able to do and make something out of themselves by coming to the United
- 7:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: States.
- 8:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: So coming here,
- 8:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: that moment in time, again, it gave me the opportunity to
- 8:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: pursue my calling in life, which was to become a pediatrician and to help
- 8:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: children.
- 8:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: He gave me the opportunity to be able to give back to the Catholic
- 8:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: church.
- 8:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I have spent, almost every, minute of my
- 8:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: career since graduating
- 8:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: by giving back to the Catholic church.
- 8:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: I've only worked in Catholic organizations, throughout the be it from
- 8:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: Saint Joseph's to Saint Vincent's and now, Franchesus Sisters of Mary.
- 8:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: It has been a calling for me to be able to give back for
- 8:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: what the church did for me and my family.
- 8:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: So lots of things, along the way that have allowed
- 8:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: me to be who I am today.
- 8:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: Lots of people that went out of their way to help me, help my
- 8:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: family when we came here to the United States.
- 8:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: I remember starting, seventh grade here.
- 8:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: All I knew were yes, no, hello, goodbye, and my name is Hossein.
- 9:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's the extent of the English That's
- 9:04Lisa Nichols: the extent of the English language.
- 9:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, I still remember my, civics teacher,
- 9:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: she pulled me aside and said, I'm gonna teach you English.
- 9:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: And she would stay before school and after school every day, and she
- 9:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: taught me English, taught me how to write, taught me how to write cursive.
- 9:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I think of, missus Henderson who did that and so
- 9:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: many other missus Hendersons along the way that have helped me and
- 9:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: my family get to where we are today, and for me, especially to be
- 9:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: the person that I am today.
- 9:35Lisa Nichols: That is is such a remarkable story and so inspiring, Dr. Marandi
- 9:40Lisa Nichols: .
- 9:41Lisa Nichols: Just like you said, being the poster child, I mean, really, these things
- 9:45Lisa Nichols: that you went through could have taken you out.
- 9:49Lisa Nichols: But, the sister Mary and miss Henderson,
- 9:54Lisa Nichols: those angels along the way,
- 9:58Lisa Nichols: really, you know, shaped you and and gave you such a better
- 10:02Lisa Nichols: opportunity.
- 10:04Lisa Nichols: I just I love the story so much.
- 10:06Lisa Nichols: And to your point, you know, you are giving back.
- 10:10Lisa Nichols: You are giving back, and I love it that you found your purpose,
- 10:15Lisa Nichols: through that.
- 10:16Lisa Nichols: You know, even, like, being sick as a child, that is an awful
- 10:20Lisa Nichols: thing.
- 10:21Lisa Nichols: But,
- 10:23Lisa Nichols: you know, you saw the need for, good health care for
- 10:27Lisa Nichols: children, and and that's what really inspired you.
- 10:30Lisa Nichols: So, sometimes I think our hardships are the things that
- 10:34Lisa Nichols: cause us to grow the most and to figure out who we are.
- 10:38Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 10:38Lisa Nichols: So
- 10:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: A hundred percent.
- 10:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: I think when you think back to those times, you always think about
- 10:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: the the the negative aspect of things.
- 10:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: But a lot of times, if you step back and think back especially, to
- 10:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: those days, it wasn't a rejection.
- 10:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: It was always redirection.
- 10:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: It was always a way to be able to take that next step.
- 10:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: And for me, I knew that the calling was to help kids.
- 11:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: I knew that I wanted to to take care of kids that were in
- 11:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: my place.
- 11:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I knew that I had the gift to be able to do that,
- 11:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: and I've continued to look for ways, to to be able to give
- 11:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: back, to society as a whole and to kids.
- 11:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: Kids really do not have a voice, and we have to be their voice.
- 11:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I think that's been, one of the big things that I've been able
- 11:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: to do is to to really look at it from their perspective and their
- 11:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: eyes and make sure that we address some of the things that kids need
- 11:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: and be that that voice wherever, that can be heard.
- 11:35Lisa Nichols: That's beautiful.
- 11:36Lisa Nichols: That's beautiful.
- 11:36Lisa Nichols: Well, I just want to reiterate one thing.
- 11:39Lisa Nichols: I love you.
- 11:39Lisa Nichols: You just set a a nugget of goal there.
- 11:43Lisa Nichols: You said reframe it.
- 11:44Lisa Nichols: It's a mindset shift from rejection
- 11:47Lisa Nichols: to redirection.
- 11:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: Correct.
- 11:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: Correct.
- 11:50Lisa Nichols: I think that that is just something that we can all take away.
- 11:54Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
- 11:57Lisa Nichols: You know, medicine, it's demanding.
- 11:59Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 12:00Lisa Nichols: Leadership is demanding.
- 12:02Lisa Nichols: Why did you choose both of those?
- 12:04Lisa Nichols: Now I mean, you're a pediatrician, but, also, now you're leading as the
- 12:08Lisa Nichols: president of Cardinal Glennon Hospital.
- 12:12Lisa Nichols: What what was that shift for you when you thought, no.
- 12:15Lisa Nichols: I want to go into administration.
- 12:17Lisa Nichols: I want to go more into the management side.
- 12:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: So as I think back,
- 12:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: I knew that the calling was to be able to help kids, and I
- 12:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: knew that I wanted to be a pediatrician.
- 12:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: Never wanted to do anything else but that.
- 12:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: Obviously, I had the opportunity to come to the United States.
- 12:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: I got a chance to go and get my degree at University of
- 12:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: Tennessee at Memphis, followed that by, training down in,
- 12:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: South Florida, University of South Florida and Johns Hopkins All Children's.
- 12:47Lisa Nichols: That could
- 12:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: be the
- 12:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: the foundation to be able to help kids.
- 12:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: Practiced for for many years, and I loved what I did.
- 12:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: That was what I was built for.
- 12:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: I was built to help kids, yet I understood that
- 13:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: there were two things that were pulling me into a different direction.
- 13:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: Number one, I wanted to do more, more than just the
- 13:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: one on one in the office.
- 13:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: I knew that I wanted to make a more positive effect on children's lives
- 13:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: on a larger scale than just the one on one in the office.
- 13:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I realized that the only way I could do that was
- 13:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: in roles that I'm I sit in now to be able to have a
- 13:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: larger voice to help more children in a community that I would not have
- 13:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: had before.
- 13:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: Add to that was
- 13:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: I had a skill set that I realized that was very different from my
- 13:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: colleagues.
- 13:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: I actually enjoyed the administrative side of medicine.
- 13:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: I enjoyed the side and the financial, and I enjoyed doing those things.
- 13:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yet I knew that it took me many years to become a physician.
- 13:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: I knew that I was not gonna become an administrator and a hospital president
- 13:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: overnight either, and I had to go pay those dues and be able to
- 13:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: to get that education.
- 13:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: So very early on, when I finished my training while I was still working,
- 14:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: as a pediatrician, I went back and got my business degree, and started
- 14:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: doing almost a second job, during the days and nights
- 14:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: where I had the opportunity by working inside the hospital.
- 14:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: I actually begged the hospital president and this chief medical officer,
- 14:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: is there anything you have for me to do?
- 14:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I think after two years of begging, they finally got tired
- 14:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: of it and said, yes.
- 14:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: Here's some things for you to do.
- 14:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: Mhmm.
- 14:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: That was the step in to be able to learn.
- 14:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: I had to be able to learn just like I went to high school,
- 14:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: college, medical school, and residency.
- 14:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: I had to do that same travel through the administrative piece
- 14:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: of it.
- 14:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I knew that I wanted to become a hospital president to get that
- 14:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: opportunity, to be that voice for children on a larger scale.
- 14:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that's what I did, spend many years learning the craft, learning how
- 14:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: to be a true leader, understanding how administration and the business
- 15:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: side of medicine work, and combine that with the clinical background that I
- 15:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: had, it gave me an opportunity to be a bridge between not only
- 15:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: the clinicians and the administrators and be able to sit at both tables
- 15:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: and be able to bring them together, all understanding that there was a mission,
- 15:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: which is do good for kids.
- 15:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that's kind of become my goal in life going forward.
- 15:23Lisa Nichols: I love it.
- 15:23Lisa Nichols: I love it.
- 15:24Lisa Nichols: Well, I want to get into,
- 15:28Lisa Nichols: Cardinal Glennon because what really attracted you is
- 15:32Lisa Nichols: all the vision that cardinal Glennon has and for you to be in
- 15:36Lisa Nichols: on the ground floor of that.
- 15:37Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 15:38Lisa Nichols: I think you're the first physician to lead cardinal Glennon since
- 15:42Lisa Nichols: the founders.
- 15:44Lisa Nichols: The first physician.
- 15:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: I believe so.
- 15:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: I'm I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I believe so.
- 15:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yeah.
- 15:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's very rare.
- 15:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: I think when you look across the country, you know, thousands and thousands
- 15:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: of hospitals, I believe only five percent of them have a physician
- 16:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: as the leader of those.
- 16:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: It is rare because many of us, either don't have the the
- 16:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: interest or the true understanding of how to be that leader.
- 16:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: So it is rare.
- 16:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: And, again, I'm I'm proud that I can bring both the clinical
- 16:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: lens as well as the administrative lens to this.
- 16:18Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 16:19Lisa Nichols: I think those two perspectives together are really powerful.
- 16:23Lisa Nichols: I mean, you you understand
- 16:26Lisa Nichols: at the bedside of what it's like, right, to treat a patient.
- 16:30Lisa Nichols: So,
- 16:31Lisa Nichols: you know, I wanna I wanna get into a little bit more about, cardinal
- 16:36Lisa Nichols: Glennon.
- 16:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 16:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 16:37Lisa Nichols: And then we need to take a quick break.
- 16:39Lisa Nichols: But, you know, let me ask you about this.
- 16:42Lisa Nichols: You know, children, you know, children really don't care about titles.
- 16:47Lisa Nichols: They Oh, really?
- 16:48Lisa Nichols: They do not care about titles.
- 16:50Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 16:51Lisa Nichols: They care about trust.
- 16:52Lisa Nichols: And what has, like, treating
- 16:56Lisa Nichols: children really taught you about leadership, Dr.
- 17:00Lisa Nichols: Marandi?
- 17:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I would say when you one of the things that you hear
- 17:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: a lot,
- 17:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: through the mouth of babes
- 17:12Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 17:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: They will be very open to tell you how they feel.
- 17:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: You know where you stand with the child because there's no,
- 17:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: filter there.
- 17:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: I think one of the things that I realized in leadership that I wanted
- 17:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: to make sure that I brought, to the forefront was
- 17:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: that transparency.
- 17:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: Being able to to talk through why, what is the
- 17:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: problem, what am I seeing, what I'm trying to do with it, but also
- 17:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: open up that transparency for everyone else to be able to see it and
- 17:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: lend in their point of view into that.
- 17:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I think that's the biggest thing.
- 17:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: When I look at, dealing with children, it's being
- 17:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: about as open with them as you can be Yeah.
- 17:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: Because that's how they're gonna be.
- 17:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: They're they they have no filter to see it that way.
- 18:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I wanted to make sure that when I was in
- 18:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: residency and in in, practice, I remember trying to,
- 18:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: lean in to the administrative side, and I was told, stick to what
- 18:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: you know, medicine.
- 18:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: You don't understand business.
- 18:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: And that was always a bit hurtful.
- 18:20Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 18:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: But it was true because I didn't know it.
- 18:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: But if somebody had taken the time to help me understand it,
- 18:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: I think I'm a pretty smart person, and many people that we deal with
- 18:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: in this health care organizations are very smart people.
- 18:34Lisa Nichols: Very smart.
- 18:34Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 18:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: So why not
- 18:36Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 18:37Lisa Nichols: Be
- 18:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: able to share that?
- 18:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I always wanted to be inclusive as well as transparent
- 18:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: in the things that I do.
- 18:43Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 18:44Lisa Nichols: Oh, that's so good.
- 18:46Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
- 18:49Lisa Nichols: You know, how do you because you are you're dealing with families and and
- 18:53Lisa Nichols: that are going through very uncertain scary times.
- 18:56Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 18:57Lisa Nichols: Very scary times.
- 18:59Lisa Nichols: I mean, you know, how do you lead personally through
- 19:03Lisa Nichols: that uncertainty and and to give give those
- 19:08Lisa Nichols: families hope.
- 19:10Lisa Nichols: I mean, what do you do to
- 19:13Lisa Nichols: navigate that?
- 19:13Lisa Nichols: Because I know that's got to be so difficult.
- 19:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: It is difficult.
- 19:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: Leadership is not easy.
- 19:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: I know one of my mentors said it, and I'm sure it's been written
- 19:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: somewhere.
- 19:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: If you want to be a leader,
- 19:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: don't expect to be liked.
- 19:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: If you wanna be liked, go sell ice cream.
- 19:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yeah.
- 19:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's tough
- 19:34Lisa Nichols: That's good.
- 19:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: Tough position to be in.
- 19:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: I I would say I leaned back on the way I practiced.
- 19:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: I always wanted to make sure that number one, I gave by
- 19:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: the parents and the child enough ability to tell me their
- 19:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: view, taking that information, process it,
- 19:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: tell them what I think is happening, and here's what I'm expecting
- 19:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: to do for it, and this is what you should expect from it.
- 20:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I've taken that into the administrative point of view.
- 20:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: I always wanna listen to hear the other side.
- 20:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: I always want to understand the perspective of the other side, because it's very
- 20:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: easy as a leader to just say, well, just here's my way.
- 20:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: Mhmm.
- 20:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's not the way it really works.
- 20:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: To be able to understand the other side, makes a big difference, and I
- 20:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: think many people, like to be able to hear that.
- 20:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: Same thing when it comes to the to the parents.
- 20:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: I can go in as as a physician and as an administrator, and tell
- 20:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: them, here's how it is.
- 20:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's not really helping them.
- 20:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: If I want to be able to understand what they understand, what
- 20:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: do you think is going on?
- 20:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: What are the concerns that you have?
- 20:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: I still have the opportunity to sometimes work with, our learners.
- 20:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: I love to be somebody took the time to teach me, so I like
- 20:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: to be able to be involved.
- 20:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I I tell them, that might be the thousandth, ten
- 20:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: thousandth ear infection that I've seen.
- 21:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: To me, it's another ear infection, another ear infection that's easy to treat.
- 21:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: But to that first time mom, that's their child, and that's the first time
- 21:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: they had to deal with it.
- 21:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: You have to understand her perspective, rather than yours.
- 21:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: If you go on there, it's just another ear infection.
- 21:17Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 21:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's Very important.
- 21:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I think, really for families is to be able to understand where they
- 21:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: are, understand where they're coming from, understand the challenges that they have.
- 21:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's not easy having a child in the hospital.
- 21:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: No.
- 21:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: Many things that that that are challenging to our families.
- 21:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: Understanding that and weaving in how can we help that as well
- 21:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: as the medical aspect of it.
- 21:40Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 21:40Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
- 21:41Lisa Nichols: Well, what I hear you saying is that you ask a lot of questions
- 21:45Lisa Nichols: and you listen.
- 21:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yeah.
- 21:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yeah.
- 21:47Lisa Nichols: It's not just telling, right, what you think or what your perspective is.
- 21:53Lisa Nichols: Let me ask you one more question, then we're gonna take a quick break.
- 21:55Lisa Nichols: Sure.
- 21:57Lisa Nichols: What and I know that this is your heart, Dr. Marandi .
- 22:00Lisa Nichols: You're a servant leader.
- 22:02Lisa Nichols: What does a servant leader servant leadership look like in
- 22:06Lisa Nichols: a children's hospital?
- 22:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: I don't think it's
- 22:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: specifically to a children's hospital.
- 22:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: I think when you when you've been given the honor of leading
- 22:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: other, it's the concept that that is what you're
- 22:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: doing.
- 22:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: It is not about you anymore.
- 22:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's about everybody else.
- 22:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: Else.
- 22:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's the high emotional quotient and the low
- 22:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: what's in it for me attitude.
- 22:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's not about you anymore.
- 22:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's about the others, and it's about the mission.
- 22:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's about the vision.
- 22:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's about the other people that you're doing.
- 22:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: You're just a vessel to be able to make that happen.
- 22:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: So to me, it's always been understanding
- 22:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: the humility that it takes to be a leader.
- 22:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: Because if if you're making it about yourself, then you're in the wrong business.
- 22:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: Business.
- 22:59Lisa Nichols: You're in the wrong business.
- 23:00Lisa Nichols: That's right.
- 23:01Lisa Nichols: It's about servant.
- 23:02Lisa Nichols: Servant leadership, I think, is about serving
- 23:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 23:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 23:06Lisa Nichols: And stewardship
- 23:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: is what
- 23:08Lisa Nichols: I say.
- 23:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's always about someone else.
- 23:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: The the the, personal joy that I get is by seeing
- 23:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: the things that happen and the the services
- 23:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: that others receive and understanding that at night, I can look back and
- 23:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: say, I did something to help someone else.
- 23:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: And that's the reward that you get.
- 23:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's not what you got in return for them.
- 23:30Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
- 23:32Lisa Nichols: Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and then we'll be right back on
- 23:35Lisa Nichols: the Something Extra podcast with Dr.
- 23:36Lisa Nichols: Marandi.
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- 24:08Lisa Nichols: So welcome back, everyone, to the Something Extra podcast with Dr.
- 24:11Lisa Nichols: Marandi.
- 24:12Lisa Nichols: So, Dr.
- 24:13Lisa Nichols: Marandi, I know that you have intentionally worked with Catholic health care.
- 24:17Lisa Nichols: We've already talked about that.
- 24:18Lisa Nichols: You've been with some iconic,
- 24:21Lisa Nichols: systems over the years.
- 24:23Lisa Nichols: But tell me about your faith and how your faith has
- 24:27Lisa Nichols: evolved through the years.
- 24:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: You know, thinking back to, as I mentioned earlier about
- 24:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: the
- 24:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: history of me and my family leaving, Iran after
- 24:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: the revolution.
- 24:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: And partly, that was because of the authorization of,
- 24:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: views and thoughts.
- 24:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: I'm trying to force everyone to have one view and one thought.
- 24:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: And my parents had always been very open and very,
- 24:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: much of a teacher to me around
- 25:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: all faiths and understanding, and the the ability to be able to
- 25:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: to honor and be, respectful to all faiths.
- 25:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that kinda led me to continue to grow
- 25:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: spiritually as I have throughout the years, because the work that I do,
- 25:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: understanding very early on that it was no longer about me, that I
- 25:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: was a vessel to be able to provide that, and that only comes through
- 25:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: a higher higher power.
- 25:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's someone that that, commands you to drive you into
- 25:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: doing things.
- 25:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's looking back in all those times where I thought something bad was happening,
- 25:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: but I was actually being redirected.
- 25:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: That doesn't happen by just luck.
- 25:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: It is a, foretold story of someone that's trying to direct you
- 25:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: into.
- 25:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I look at everything, and even here being here at,
- 25:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: SSM Health, Chronic Glen and Children's Hospital for the past three years, there was
- 25:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: a reason why I ended up here.
- 25:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: That was the direction that I needed to go.
- 26:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's why I was placed here.
- 26:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I think back at everywhere that I've been throughout my life and every
- 26:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: moment in time, it's been because I have been directed into the next
- 26:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: because I have a purpose, and my purpose is to care for kids.
- 26:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: Mhmm.
- 26:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: So it just allows me to to be more grounded, allows me
- 26:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: to be more open, more, able to listen, able
- 26:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: to understand, and just be able to to do the work that I do
- 26:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: knowing that it's not, about me.
- 26:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's about a much larger,
- 26:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: aspect of this this world, and that only comes through faith.
- 26:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: And that's what you can always fall back on.
- 26:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: Whenever there's a there's a challenging day, you fall back on it.
- 26:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: Whenever there's a challenging thing that comes up, you fall back on it,
- 26:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: and it always, always, always works out.
- 26:50Lisa Nichols: Well, we share that because, I mean, it is the anchor for my soul.
- 26:54Lisa Nichols: I would be tossed to and fro if it weren't for my faith.
- 26:58Lisa Nichols: Something that you said, Dr. Marandi , that really resonate with me, you just
- 27:02Lisa Nichols: said I'm just a vessel.
- 27:03Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 27:03Lisa Nichols: We're a vessel.
- 27:04Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 27:05Lisa Nichols: And so but to be a vessel that can be used, we need to
- 27:08Lisa Nichols: be poured out.
- 27:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 27:11Lisa Nichols: And then so
- 27:13Lisa Nichols: the spirit, you know, could be poured in.
- 27:16Lisa Nichols: And I just it reminded me of mother Teresa.
- 27:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: Mhmm.
- 27:19Lisa Nichols: And one of my favorite quotes from her was I'm just a pencil,
- 27:23Lisa Nichols: and you know this quote.
- 27:25Lisa Nichols: I'm a pencil in the hand of God.
- 27:27Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 27:28Lisa Nichols: And, you know, I just I love that so much.
- 27:31Lisa Nichols: We're just vessels.
- 27:33Lisa Nichols: Well, I'm so excited.
- 27:34Lisa Nichols: I want you now to to talk about Cardinal Glennon.
- 27:38Lisa Nichols: I mean, this this is gonna be such a
- 27:42Lisa Nichols: beautiful hospital.
- 27:44Lisa Nichols: Five hundred thousand square foot hospital, fourteen stories,
- 27:49Lisa Nichols: probably one of the largest philanthropic health care initiatives in St.
- 27:53Lisa Nichols: Louis, I would say, for for as long as I can remember.
- 27:58Lisa Nichols: You know?
- 27:59Lisa Nichols: But tell me more.
- 28:00Lisa Nichols: You you helped design this.
- 28:02Lisa Nichols: You helped design this new family centered children's hospital.
- 28:06Lisa Nichols: What do you want families to fill
- 28:10Lisa Nichols: the moment that they walk through those doors, Dr. Marandi ?
- 28:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's a great question.
- 28:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: You know, I I think back when I was approached about this role, and
- 28:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: I talked about being directed.
- 28:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's exactly how I felt.
- 28:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: Coming here to Saint Louis and being able to be in this role really
- 28:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: went back to that faith that we talked about, and I
- 28:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: was directed to be here because of this project.
- 28:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I see it as, as a calling to be able to make sure
- 28:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: that we leave this organization and this community with the best
- 28:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: access to the world class pediatric care that it deserves.
- 28:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: So it started out with the children's hospital, and that's exactly what it is.
- 28:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: I was brought here to help, design it, build it, and make sure that
- 28:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: it opens on time.
- 28:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: And it is.
- 29:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: We are
- 29:01Lisa Nichols: You're on track.
- 29:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: On track, will be completed by July of twenty seventh next
- 29:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: year, and, we are expected to see first patient October twenty second
- 29:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: of twenty seventh, which is not very far from today.
- 29:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: So when you look at the new children's hospital,
- 29:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: we here at SSM Health Cardinal Glennon Children's Hospital, the original
- 29:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: Glennon, OG, as we lovingly call her,
- 29:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: she has served this community for seventy years.
- 29:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we wanted to make sure that we were true to that legacy as
- 29:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: we transition to a new building and make sure that we continue that same
- 29:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: mission for more than seven years in the future in the new building.
- 29:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: So when you look at just even the selection of the location of this
- 29:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: hospital, we moved just two blocks down the street, and we're
- 29:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: still here.
- 29:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: Because when we look at the population that we serve, this is where we
- 29:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: need to be.
- 29:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: We don't need to be out west.
- 29:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: We don't need to be farther away.
- 29:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: We need to be here because the patients and the families that need us
- 30:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: and have dependent on us for seven years are here.
- 30:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that's when the decision was made to stay here.
- 30:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: And then they came to the design, and that's where we, go back to
- 30:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: what I talked about earlier, the inclusivity and the listening.
- 30:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 30:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: I'm supposed to lead this, but there's so many people that are going to
- 30:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: be in that hospital day to day that needed to have that voice.
- 30:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: So starting with our physicians, nurses, environmental
- 30:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: staff, our cafeteria,
- 30:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: folks, patients, families, parents,
- 30:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: everyone was brought around the table, and allowed to
- 30:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: bring in their insights, their views,
- 30:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: because they were gonna be using this hospital day in and day out.
- 30:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we wanted to be able to hear from them.
- 30:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: How do we make this such a great experience?
- 30:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: Because we all you talked about how difficult it is to be admitted to
- 30:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: a hospital.
- 30:57Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 30:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: How do we make that experience better for not only the patients and
- 31:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: families, but also for our caregivers who spend the majority of their time
- 31:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: in a day here?
- 31:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that was the impetus of taking every little piece that they
- 31:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: brought, something as simple as the kids said, can we have
- 31:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: ice cream?
- 31:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: Well, sure.
- 31:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: Why not?
- 31:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: Let's have a, you know, a softer ice cream.
- 31:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's simple things all the way to what do our surgeons need in
- 31:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: the operating room to make sure that they have access to the highest
- 31:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: world class equipment so they can have the best outcomes Mhmm.
- 31:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: And everything else in between.
- 31:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: And that's kinda how we did things.
- 31:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: We really wanted to make sure that when a family comes in, they
- 31:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: truly see this as a as a place where it's more than just
- 31:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: medical care, but it's spiritual care.
- 31:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's wrapping our arms around the, looking at the design of the building
- 31:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: where we wanted the best views toward downtown to be our family
- 31:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: lounges.
- 31:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: Where the parents, because they said, you know, it's tough being here, can I
- 32:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: have a place where I can go for ten minutes, just for respite?
- 32:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: Let me check my email, check my text messages, and just
- 32:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: recharge.
- 32:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: Perfect.
- 32:10Dr. Hossain Marandi: Let's pick the best places in the hospital with the best views, and let's
- 32:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: do that.
- 32:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: Parents ask, can we go outside and have be able to eat our food
- 32:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: outside?
- 32:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we have an outdoor terrace, by our cafeteria where patients and
- 32:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: families, as well as our caregivers can go out there and be able to
- 32:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: to have that.
- 32:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: And so many more examples that I can use.
- 32:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: Another one is our, neonatal intensive care unit.
- 32:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: Our new hospital, we are going from sixty five beds in the current plan
- 32:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: to ninety, increasing as we see the future, as
- 32:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: we're pressing about what the need is going to be.
- 32:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's going to be high acuity intensive care for these kids that
- 32:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: truly need that level of care.
- 32:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we're expanding our ICUs.
- 32:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: Our neonatal intensive care unit is gonna be much larger.
- 32:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: When we talk to our parents, the average,
- 32:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: days that a parent spends in our ICU is about twenty
- 33:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: nine days.
- 33:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: Mhmm.
- 33:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: Our current ICU rooms are smaller, and none of them have windows.
- 33:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: So many of them said, can we have a window so we can at
- 33:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: least look outside and see what the weather is like when we're here for
- 33:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: a whole month?
- 33:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: Can we have more storage so we can bring our clothes because we
- 33:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: know we're gonna be here?
- 33:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we took that to heart.
- 33:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: All our Yes.
- 33:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: Rooms are much larger, much more,
- 33:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: cabinetry to be able to keep things.
- 33:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: And every one of our neonatal intensive care beds will
- 33:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: have windows.
- 33:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: It will be the only ICU neonatal intensive care unit in the state
- 33:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: of Missouri that has a window in every one of the rooms.
- 33:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: So again, it's an example of listening to our
- 33:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: patients, parents, caregivers, and operationalizing
- 33:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: that into the design of the new hospital.
- 33:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: So if I'm telling my parents what they're looking forward to is
- 34:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: we know it's a difficult time to have a child in the hospital, but
- 34:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: we will make it the best you can time it can be based on
- 34:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: what we can control.
- 34:10Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 34:11Lisa Nichols: What a treasure.
- 34:13Lisa Nichols: What a treasure for our region, Dr. Marandi , but I think it's going to be
- 34:17Lisa Nichols: a light on a hill for pediatric hospitals all
- 34:22Lisa Nichols: over the country.
- 34:23Lisa Nichols: So,
- 34:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: as as a
- 34:25Lisa Nichols: lot of you you
- 34:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: know, one of the things we always keep saying is that, it is truly
- 34:29Dr. Hossain Marandi: going to be a beacon of hope on Grand Avenue on the corner of
- 34:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: Grand and Showroom.
- 34:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: But, you know, it's not just the hospital.
- 34:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: So when I had the opportunity to to come here, and we'll talk a
- 34:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: little bit more about, you know, the topic of this, the
- 34:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: something extra and and some of the Yes.
- 34:45Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's I would say it's it's a vision that that connects to a
- 34:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: mission.
- 34:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: And we've already talked about what my calling has been.
- 34:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I've had the opportunity to work with our teams and look at what
- 34:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: does the future of pediatric care need to be for this this city,
- 35:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: this, this organization, and this community.
- 35:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: It was truly to create a destination center for care where it was
- 35:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: easy access for patients to be able to come and receive the high quality
- 35:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: care, but also ease of access.
- 35:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: So it's not just the hospital.
- 35:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: Now the connection of that is we just had an approval
- 35:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: for, the build of a perinatal center of excellence inside the
- 35:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: hospital.
- 35:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: And why do we do that?
- 35:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: I just talked about our neonatal intensive care unit with ninety beds.
- 35:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: Well, you know, every one of those premature babies was
- 35:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: delivered somewhere.
- 35:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: So why not wrap our arms around that mother also, and be able
- 35:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: to give her the opportunity to deliver inside the children's hospital, where
- 35:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: all the access to those care is within one place, and makes it much
- 35:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: easier.
- 35:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we did that.
- 35:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: Then we went a step further.
- 35:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: We said, okay.
- 35:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: We figured out the inpatient side.
- 35:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: What about all the patients?
- 35:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: We have over two hundred thousand visits every year in our outpatient
- 36:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: clinics.
- 36:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: What about those folks?
- 36:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: How do we help them?
- 36:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we just got another approval to build a ambulatory,
- 36:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: building, a pediatric outpatient pavilion, right next door to the hospital,
- 36:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: connected to the hospital.
- 36:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: So now you have a true campus where all that
- 36:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: care is in one location with easy parking, and the
- 36:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: patients and parents can come and get the care that they need knowing that
- 36:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: it's easy.
- 36:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 36:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: So Uh-oh.
- 36:30Lisa Nichols: So beautiful.
- 36:31Lisa Nichols: Well,
- 36:33Lisa Nichols: yeah, let me ask you this.
- 36:35Lisa Nichols: Okay.
- 36:36Lisa Nichols: So say we've got a listener
- 36:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: Mhmm.
- 36:38Lisa Nichols: And they they're really moved
- 36:42Lisa Nichols: by by this episode of the Something Extra podcast today, Dr. Marandi
- 36:46Lisa Nichols: .
- 36:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 36:47Lisa Nichols: What is one thing they can do?
- 36:49Lisa Nichols: And I know you guys invite people in to see, and you do tours
- 36:53Lisa Nichols: and things like that.
- 36:54Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 36:56Lisa Nichols: But, you know, how can they get involved?
- 36:58Lisa Nichols: How they can they learn more?
- 36:59Lisa Nichols: What what would you say to them?
- 37:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: So
- 37:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: as we talked about, it health care is difficult.
- 37:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: If you don't need to access it, you don't want to.
- 37:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: But there's so much great things that happen in a hospital, especially in a
- 37:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: children's hospital, that I think the community wants to be a part of.
- 37:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we have a lot of opportunities for, our our community
- 37:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: to be involved, be it from volunteering at the hospital and doing
- 37:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: different.
- 37:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: We have many different things that they can do, as a volunteer inside that
- 37:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: would allow us to be able to take care of those families and wrap
- 37:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: our arms around them, as I mentioned, more than just the the the clinical
- 37:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: aspect of it.
- 37:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: The other aspect of it is through financial support.
- 37:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: We talked about some of these projects.
- 37:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: All of those projects were mainly funded by
- 37:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: philanthropy.
- 37:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: The outpatient pavilion, the large portion of the hospital, and the build
- 37:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: that's there.
- 37:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: Many of the things that I have the opportunity to be able to do
- 38:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: for our kids, it's because people cared,
- 38:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: and people were devoted to that mission and gave financially, and it doesn't
- 38:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: matter if it's a dollar or more.
- 38:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: It all goes toward figuring out a way to care for kids.
- 38:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I would love for the community to really see the new Cardinal Glennon
- 38:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: Children's Hospital and all of our services that we provide as truly
- 38:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: a beacon of hope for them, knowing that hopefully they'll never have to use
- 38:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: our resources and services.
- 38:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: But in case they do, in case their grandchild needs it, in case
- 38:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: their next door neighbor needs it, they can always have the ease
- 38:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: of knowing we are here, and we'll take care of them.
- 38:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: And if they have the opportunity to get involved, we would love for them
- 38:43Dr. Hossain Marandi: to get involved.
- 38:45Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
- 38:46Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 38:47Lisa Nichols: And I'm thinking, like you said, doctor Rending, hopefully, they won't ever need it.
- 38:51Lisa Nichols: Sometimes we plant trees for people that we'll never meet.
- 38:54Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 38:54Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 38:55Lisa Nichols: But it these things do not happen
- 38:59Lisa Nichols: without the community
- 39:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: Correct.
- 39:00Lisa Nichols: Getting involved.
- 39:01Lisa Nichols: So, yeah, I would encourage you to if this has pricked your heart,
- 39:05Lisa Nichols: I would encourage you to really reach out.
- 39:08Lisa Nichols: I've got just a couple of quick lightning round questions for
- 39:12Lisa Nichols: you here.
- 39:13Lisa Nichols: Okay?
- 39:14Lisa Nichols: Your favorite comfort food besides tater tots.
- 39:17Lisa Nichols: And I know you love tater tots.
- 39:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: I do.
- 39:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: I do.
- 39:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: I love tater tots too.
- 39:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: So lately, I have to admit, donut holes have become my vice.
- 39:27Lisa Nichols: So Oh, donut holes.
- 39:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: Even for today, for my birthday, they they brought me donut holes.
- 39:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: So
- 39:34Lisa Nichols: yeah.
- 39:35Lisa Nichols: That's so awesome.
- 39:36Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 39:36Lisa Nichols: Happy birthday, by the way.
- 39:38Lisa Nichols: I know that you're gonna be celebrating this evening with Andrea, your wife, who
- 39:42Lisa Nichols: happens to be a pediatrician.
- 39:44Lisa Nichols: Correct.
- 39:45Lisa Nichols: And then Rocco and Enzo, your two sons.
- 39:48Lisa Nichols: Right?
- 39:48Lisa Nichols: So happy, happy birthday.
- 39:50Lisa Nichols: Do you have a favorite children's book?
- 39:55Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 39:57Dr. Hossain Marandi: The Giving Tree.
- 39:59Lisa Nichols: I love The Giving Tree.
- 40:01Dr. Hossain Marandi: I love it.
- 40:02Lisa Nichols: I see it right now.
- 40:03Lisa Nichols: It's a green book.
- 40:04Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 40:05Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 40:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's a great have never been able to finish that book reading it to
- 40:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: my voice because by the time it got toward the last two pages,
- 40:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: the tears would never allow me to finish it because the the emotions
- 40:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: that that, book, just instills in me
- 40:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: is it's it's wonderful.
- 40:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's a wonderfully written book, but it gives you a lot of perspective about
- 40:27Dr. Hossain Marandi: life in general.
- 40:29Lisa Nichols: I love that you mentioned that.
- 40:30Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 40:31Lisa Nichols: If you got littles Mhmm.
- 40:33Lisa Nichols: Or even if you don't, buy some copies and give to people that
- 40:37Lisa Nichols: do have littles.
- 40:38Lisa Nichols: It's wonderful.
- 40:39Lisa Nichols: Okay.
- 40:39Lisa Nichols: Now I have to ask you this too.
- 40:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: Sure.
- 40:42Lisa Nichols: Favorite movie?
- 40:43Lisa Nichols: And I know you guys are big fans
- 40:48Lisa Nichols: of you guys are big Star Wars fans.
- 40:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 40:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 40:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: We are.
- 40:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, me and the boys, we are just all we love Star
- 40:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: Wars.
- 40:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: So we've been, so excited about, The Mandalorian.
- 41:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's been the latest thing we watched.
- 41:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, it's, everything about Star Wars is, is
- 41:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: big in my house.
- 41:07Lisa Nichols: I love that.
- 41:08Lisa Nichols: I love that.
- 41:11Lisa Nichols: Well and I also know another thing about you I read.
- 41:14Lisa Nichols: You love hospital cafeteria food.
- 41:16Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 41:17Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 41:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, it's it's interesting you mentioned that.
- 41:20Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, I've grown up in hospitals.
- 41:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's as I said early on in life when I was there, but then
- 41:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: knowing that I wanted to become a a a physician later on.
- 41:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: When I came to the US, when I went to college,
- 41:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: you know, obviously, not having money to be able to to,
- 41:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: make ends meet and to eat, I would volunteer.
- 41:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: You talked about volunteering, what people can do.
- 41:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: I would I remember I would volunteer at the local hospital and
- 41:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: go in and do whatever they needed me to do.
- 41:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: And with that, I got a voucher to be able to eat.
- 41:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: So I did that as often as we I could.
- 41:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: And then later on, medical school, residency, I have become
- 41:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: a
- 41:59Lisa Nichols: A connoisseur.
- 42:00Dr. Hossain Marandi: A cafeteria officer at all.
- 42:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, yes, I love
- 42:03Lisa Nichols: You're a connoisseur Yeah.
- 42:05Lisa Nichols: Of, you know, I mean, my father-in-law worked
- 42:09Lisa Nichols: in a hospital.
- 42:11Lisa Nichols: My the whole time, my husband and I, we dated all through Kyle, high
- 42:14Lisa Nichols: school and college.
- 42:15Lisa Nichols: And so I visited a lot.
- 42:19Lisa Nichols: And the cafeteria food was great.
- 42:21Lisa Nichols: I love I love that.
- 42:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: Our our food here at, Cardinal Glennon is wonderful.
- 42:26Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 42:26Lisa Nichols: It's awesome.
- 42:27Lisa Nichols: So I'm gonna ask you this, and then we're gonna talk about something extra.
- 42:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: Sure.
- 42:31Lisa Nichols: Is there a daily habit, Dr. Marandi
- 42:34Lisa Nichols: , that you never skip?
- 42:36Lisa Nichols: No compromise on?
- 42:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: Reading.
- 42:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: I read something.
- 42:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: At least something, that, every day.
- 42:52Dr. Hossain Marandi: I think, you know, we talk about as physicians, we're lifelong learners,
- 42:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: and a lot of it has to be around, medicine.
- 42:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: But, transitioning to the administrative side of things, understanding
- 43:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: that there is so much more more to this world and to be a
- 43:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: leader than just the clinical aspect of things.
- 43:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: I've become, an avid reader of something every day.
- 43:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: And it it doesn't have to be necessarily a book.
- 43:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: It can be just about anything.
- 43:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: It could be a little blurb, of, let's say,
- 43:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: from a book.
- 43:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: It could be a title in a in a magazine.
- 43:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: It could be just about anything.
- 43:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: But to me, to be able to continuously learn and to make yourself
- 43:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: better is, something that you just cannot stop doing every day.
- 43:38Lisa Nichols: That's so good.
- 43:40Lisa Nichols: I cannot remember who coined this, Dr. Marandi
- 43:43Lisa Nichols: , but I remember,
- 43:46Lisa Nichols: I can't remember.
- 43:47Lisa Nichols: I think his last name was Jones.
- 43:50Lisa Nichols: But he said you'll be the person same person you are five years
- 43:54Lisa Nichols: from now except for the books you read and the
- 43:58Lisa Nichols: people you meet.
- 43:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: Yes.
- 44:00Lisa Nichols: And I believe that that those are how I feel like I've grown
- 44:04Lisa Nichols: Mhmm.
- 44:05Lisa Nichols: Both professionally and personally always.
- 44:07Lisa Nichols: So, yeah, I kinda like books too.
- 44:10Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 44:12Lisa Nichols: Well, let me ask you this.
- 44:13Lisa Nichols: This is called something extra.
- 44:15Lisa Nichols: I have to ask you, what do you believe is this something extra that
- 44:18Lisa Nichols: every leader needs?
- 44:22Dr. Hossain Marandi: So having the opportunity to to know I was gonna be asked this question,
- 44:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: I had to to discern a lot about that and think through
- 44:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: a journey that I've had, and really the the leader
- 44:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: who I am today.
- 44:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: I
- 44:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: I would say that I think there's something extra that every leader
- 44:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: needs is the ability to create belief.
- 44:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: What do I mean by that?
- 44:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: So, I wanna tell you the just a few a quick few minutes and
- 44:54Dr. Hossain Marandi: tell you about the story that was the the the, I would say, the
- 44:58Dr. Hossain Marandi: turning point for me that allowed me to better understand how to be a
- 45:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: good leader.
- 45:03Dr. Hossain Marandi: And this was early two, twenty twenty when we were
- 45:07Dr. Hossain Marandi: all hold up in our own houses because of COVID.
- 45:11Dr. Hossain Marandi: So at that time, my boys were six and four, and we just didn't
- 45:14Dr. Hossain Marandi: have anything else to do, but we decided to get into puzzles.
- 45:18Dr. Hossain Marandi: And we started to work with puzzles.
- 45:21Dr. Hossain Marandi: And that's when I truly had an epiphany, and I'll walk you through it.
- 45:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: You go to buy a puzzle, and you buy it because of the picture
- 45:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: on the box.
- 45:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's the vision.
- 45:31Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's the end goal that you wanna get into.
- 45:33Dr. Hossain Marandi: So you buy the box, you open the box, and now what do you
- 45:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: have?
- 45:36Dr. Hossain Marandi: You have all these pieces.
- 45:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: What's the first thing that we do?
- 45:40Dr. Hossain Marandi: We find those special pieces that are the corner pieces.
- 45:44Lisa Nichols: Yes.
- 45:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: When when I think of my team, those are the special people in my
- 45:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: team
- 45:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: that allow to frame the future.
- 45:53Dr. Hossain Marandi: They're there to create the guardrails.
- 45:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: They're there to be able to to hone everything in.
- 45:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: They're the special ones that are different.
- 46:02Dr. Hossain Marandi: You build the framework of what it is that you want to build for
- 46:05Dr. Hossain Marandi: the future.
- 46:06Dr. Hossain Marandi: Then you look at all the other pieces that are in there.
- 46:09Dr. Hossain Marandi: Every one of them is a different color, different shape, different aspect.
- 46:13Dr. Hossain Marandi: Those are all of our team members.
- 46:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: Every one of them is a unique individual, yet every one of them is
- 46:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: absolutely necessary to make that future come true.
- 46:23Dr. Hossain Marandi: And one by one, you put them in the right place that they belong
- 46:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: because they fit into the right place.
- 46:28Dr. Hossain Marandi: And when you get finished, you have the final vision that you wanted
- 46:32Dr. Hossain Marandi: to have.
- 46:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: The vision is what every leader should be able to bring.
- 46:37Dr. Hossain Marandi: The belief of everyone, every one of those pieces that they belong,
- 46:41Dr. Hossain Marandi: they have a special place, and that they need to be there.
- 46:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: Because imagine going through and building the full puzzle, and you're missing
- 46:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: one piece.
- 46:49Lisa Nichols: Right.
- 46:50Dr. Hossain Marandi: The frustration.
- 46:51Dr. Hossain Marandi: So everyone in that team is important.
- 46:56Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that's when I start to think about it's there's something extra for me
- 46:59Dr. Hossain Marandi: for a leader is to the ability to to create that
- 47:04Dr. Hossain Marandi: belief in a future state that people wanna be part of,
- 47:08Dr. Hossain Marandi: that they see it as a future they wanna be in,
- 47:12Dr. Hossain Marandi: they understand how they fit in there, they've had they say.
- 47:15Dr. Hossain Marandi: Again, I'm going back to making sure they're inclusive and you listen to them,
- 47:19Dr. Hossain Marandi: and then respecting each one of them to trusting them that they're gonna
- 47:24Dr. Hossain Marandi: fit into the model the way it should be.
- 47:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: And then when you're done, you have that beautiful picture and vision.
- 47:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: So that's that's when I really start to think about what every leader
- 47:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: should bring.
- 47:35Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's not about me, it's not about me doing the vision,
- 47:39Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's leadership is helping those others
- 47:44Dr. Hossain Marandi: understand what that future is, a future that's worth pursuing, and that they belong
- 47:48Dr. Hossain Marandi: as a part of.
- 47:49Dr. Hossain Marandi: That's what I would say the special piece is.
- 47:53Lisa Nichols: That is one of the most beautiful
- 47:56Lisa Nichols: pictures
- 47:58Lisa Nichols: that somebody has drawn for me of the something extra.
- 48:02Lisa Nichols: Yeah.
- 48:03Lisa Nichols: That is just beautiful.
- 48:04Lisa Nichols: Thank you so much for that, And thank you so much for making
- 48:08Lisa Nichols: the time to be with me today.
- 48:10Lisa Nichols: I cannot wait to share this with our listeners, Dr.
- 48:13Lisa Nichols: Marandi, and, just keep doing what you're doing.
- 48:16Lisa Nichols: You're making a humongous difference, as your whole team is.
- 48:20Lisa Nichols: And so thank you for that.
- 48:22Lisa Nichols: I'm grateful that you're in Saint Louis.
- 48:24Lisa Nichols: You're a treasure
- 48:25Dr. Hossain Marandi: Thank you.
- 48:25Lisa Nichols: For our region.
- 48:26Dr. Hossain Marandi: I really appreciate the time, and it's it is, Saint Louis is a wonderful
- 48:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: city.
- 48:30Dr. Hossain Marandi: It's a wonderful community, and I'm glad that, once we get finished
- 48:34Dr. Hossain Marandi: with all the the vision that we've created, that we will leave a legacy
- 48:38Dr. Hossain Marandi: here that many, many people will be able to use for many decades.
- 48:42Dr. Hossain Marandi: And I would feel fulfilled that we did something as a servant leader
- 48:46Dr. Hossain Marandi: for others.
- 48:47Dr. Hossain Marandi: So thank you for your time.
- 48:49Lisa Nichols: Very good.
- 48:50Lisa Nichols: Thank you.
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