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NHL Offseason Roundtable: Are the Florida Panthers gearing up to three-peat? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Ladies and gentlemen, we call this segment sounded out say
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roll here. Jay Quellen.
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Who's Jay Quellen? That no Jay Quellen here.
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Do you mean Jacqueline? Let's sound it out.
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What you call me? Sound, it's out out.
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Welcome back everybody, to another episode of Sounded Out.
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Monix. Monix, Errol's got it.
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The NHL Draft took place on Friday last week.
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We got some names from the draft.
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Are you ready to sound it out? All right, Peter Andre Nov.
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Andre Nov Andre Nov. Hold on.
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Andre Yanov. Andre Yanov.
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Peter Andre Yanov. What do you think?
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I mean, I would say it's Andre Yanov, but we'll allow it.
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We'll allow it. It's.
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It's Peter. It's Pieter, you know, but
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we'll, it's Peter. You're not wrong.
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That's how it would be spelled for Peter.
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One for one, Errol on the NHL draft.
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Didn't expect you this hot out of the gate.
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Let's keep the music rolling. Our next name coming on up for
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you, Errol. Can't wait.
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Here it is. Sounded out Francisco de Leche.
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What is this? What?
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What is this? First off, is Francesco all?
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Right. Well, Francesco?
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Francesco. What is it?
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What is it? What's his last name?
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Speedy, I don't know how to pronounce the last name I know
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the first name he knows. You know how to pronounce it.
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Go ahead, Speedy. I gave this one to you guys
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yesterday so. It doesn't help.
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Me so I get a half a point because you guys don't know how
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to spell it. I mean you guys.
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Certainly not Dolce de leche the type of like.
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De Leche, I mean, come on, how do you you guys don't even know
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how to sound it out and you're going to get you got to give me
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half a point for that. You have to you guys don't know
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it. So that's a half a point.
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That's 1 1/2. For me, hold on, but we'll find
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it out real quick for you. Look at this ladies and
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gentlemen, we play sounded out and these guys make fun of me on
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how I pronounce these hockey names.
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These guys don't even know how to pronounce pronounce their
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names either. So how am IA loser on this game?
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I should be a winner every single.
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Week, I think it's Delotge, so not not going to get that one,
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but one for 2 is for batting 500 pretty good.
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We got one more Tommy, get the music going.
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Here it is. One more chance Errol to sound
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it out. Oh my God, this one I saw all
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over the Internet. OK, Ilyas Mago Med.
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Sultanov. Say it all together.
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Ilyas Mago Med. Sultanov, Come on, Mag Omed
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Sultanov all. Right.
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I don't know. I'm going to give you that one.
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How do you pronounce it? I'm going to give.
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It to you 2 out of three. It's definitely Ilias.
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All right. Ilias Magomed Sultanov.
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All right, that's not bad. I got.
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I'm not sure if that's how it's pronounced all right, but I
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don't see how it could be pronounced something else.
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It's just the longest last name I've ever seen They so it's the
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second one was Francesco del del L che Del leche or Del L che?
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Yep, Del L Che. That's a tough one.
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Well, hold on one second. I wasn't that far off was.
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I you were, you got the first name completely wrong.
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All right, but I wasn't I You made fun of what I said at the
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end. It sounded like you said dulce
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de leche. Whatever.
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It's it's still not fault from what I was saying.
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Hey, listen, I, I, I'm thinking of food because I can't have it
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right now. So I might as well enjoy
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thinking about it. Anyways, please don't don't
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complain to me about any of that.
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Well, I, I could eat the stuff, but I'm trying to be a little
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bit more careful. I, I am not drinking any sugar
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drinks. I'm going to stay away from it
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for the next couple of months. But besides that, I should be
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allowed to eat whatever I want if I'm not drinking the sugar
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drinks because that's what that's my killer.
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Anybody that knows anything about sugar drinks, if there is
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any like crushed soda crush, crushed grape or any of that
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stuff around me, I am swallowing that bottle down.
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I like lemonade too. Love my lemonade.
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So I have to stay away from all of that for the.
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Next diet dude, just diet. You got to go diet let.
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Me diet or what? I'm not drinking that.
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Diet, diet, I'll just drink this tea.
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Diet lemonade. I'll just drink it.
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I don't want diet lemonade. I don't want diet freaking iced
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tea. I'll just drink.
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Welcome to to being part of the anti sugar world.
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Well, I'm just, I'm not going to stay away from sugar.
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I'm just going to stay away from sugar drinks.
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That's what I'm going to stay away from.
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You should try to stay away from unnatural sugar.
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That's the general thing they say.
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Like fruit and stuff like that's not terrible.
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Refine, refine. Well, I'm going to.
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I want to have some cake. Why can't I have some cake?
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I'm not going to stay away from that completely.
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So I deserve a little bit of sweet.
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Just get the ones that have the sugar free or the no sugar
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added. So I have to stay away from
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sugar completely. Come on, get out of here.
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I'm not that. Bad Errol, If you just say like,
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oh, I'm not going to, I'm not going to eat the soda, but I'm
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going to eat cake, that doesn't change the fact that you need.
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Say I was going to eat cake every day, but if I want to have
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cake once a week, I could have cake once a week.
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Why not? I'm just saying you could you
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the way that I when I found out I was type 1 diabetic and
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obviously you don't have that, but I just found a bunch of
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desserts that were similar to desserts I would want to have.
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And then after you don't, you don't have sugar for a few
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weeks, you don't really like miss it like that and you just
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want to have a dessert so you can have like a very low sugar
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brownie and ice cream and things like that.
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And you and it's not that bad. It really isn't, but it's a big
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change. It is.
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Man, I like I said, it's 4th of July on Friday, I am going to
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have, I'm not going to drink any sugar drinks, but I am going to
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have some cake and I'm going to have the opportunity to enjoy my
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4th of July and then I'll go back to, you know, being being
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this garbage. Anyways, all right, ladies and
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gentlemen, we got to get into some NHL conversation.
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We're going to get Ashley Sarge on the show next week.
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He was with the Islanders today. He was that their development
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camps he got a chance to see some of the young players at the
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Islanders drafted in this past draft.
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A+ plus we will get into that just a few moments.
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The Maple Leafs sign winger Matthew 9 to a six year, $46.5
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million extension and center John Tavares, which we were
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speaking about a couple of days ago, four years $17.52 million
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extension. The Canucks gave forward Brock
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Besser A7 year $50.75 million extension and goalie Thatcher
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Demco a three-year $25.5 million extent.
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Actually like that by the way, by the Canucks.
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That deal was definitely a deal that really stood out to me in
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his free agency market. The Islanders gave Alexander
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Romanoff an 8 year, 50 million extension, not a bad one.
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We will get into that in just a few moments.
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The Oilers gave defenseman Evan Bouchard A4 year $42.5 million
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extension, the fourth highest paid defenseman in the NHL.
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Not a good move as as far as I'm concerned, even though he had a
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very good playoff and he had a very good season.
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The Panthers kept all three. Sam Bennett who was the the
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playoff MVP, Brad Marshawn and Aaron Eckblatt.
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I think this all of these deals were fantastic.
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This is the slam dunk for the Florida Panthers.
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Eight years 64,000,000. Marshawn got a six year 31.5
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million and Eckblatt, who is one of the more underrated players
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in the league, got an 8 year, 48.8 billion dollar contract.
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So let's go with the extensions first, then we'll go with the
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trades. I think the Canucks slam dunk
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bringing back Brock Besser. I think he's very underrated.
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He's an underrated player. He's one of the more underrated
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two way players in the NHL. He's seven years, $50.75
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million. You want to keep your own
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players. You developed him and I think
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he's a guy that a lot of teams want to.
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I remember when he was becoming available, the Islanders were
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very interested in trying to make a trade to bring him to the
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Islanders. They had no chance of getting
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Brock. Brock is a a sensational player,
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big, strong, capable of playing two-dimensional hockey and
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Thatcher is one of the more underrated goalies in the NHL.
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Young talented in the contract that he got three years 2425
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$5,000,000 extension fantastic so that that those to me though
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them and the Florida Panthers, but I want to know your opinion
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first. Yeah, I like it from the Canucks
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standpoint, if they needed to lock in the goalies when he
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comes to two, yeah, a three-year deal is probably because of his
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injury risk factor because he's been like that his whole career.
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He came up kind of as the same as the two New York guys kind of
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the same time. And I think that level of a
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goaltender Vancouver has not had for a while since when they had
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Luongo and they had trouble going for it.
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Besser obviously was disgruntled with the whole JT Miller
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situation, so they had to make sure they sealed one of them.
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They traded Miller, they they end up keeping him, but with the
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lease end of it, John Tavares essentially gets a pay cut,
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which is a good thing for them because they needed to be able
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to shed some money. If they traded Marner, we'll get
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into that later, but they end up getting some money to help other
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areas. Matthew Nyes is a good young
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winger, fast type guy and they've been lacking a lot of
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the wing production for a while. So I think that's a good move.
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Bouchard is interesting because you're right, ten and a half
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million is definitely a little bit for a undersized defenseman,
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but he is very skilled, one of the best offensive defenseman.
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He still skates well. He's not just over just not
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overly physical, but besides that does everything else really
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well. And like you said, Florida, I'm
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shocked they were able to keep all three.
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I thought Ekblad. Was I'm not gone.
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I'm not the Florida Panthers or a smart organization.
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They've been one of the smarter organizations over the last
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couple of years and landing Bennett, Marshawn and Ekblad.
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I mean, could you argue that this team is the Stanley Cup
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contender that is probably going to be favorites again to win the
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Stanley Cup next year? I don't think you can argue that
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this team, we haven't seen a back-to-back to back champion
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for since the I think it was the the the Islanders, right?
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Or the Edmonton Oilers. No, it was.
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The Oilers were three in a row. Islanders were. 4 So it was the
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80's the last time late 80s early 90's the last time we.
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Seen goalies were standing up, yes.
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That's when it was grand fuel. We barely had helmets.
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At that time and Billy Smith, those were the two goalies, one
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for the Islanders and the other one.
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And and that's for you young guys that when we were talking
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about goalies, Billy Smith and then obviously Grand Fjour, both
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guys, Hall of Famers, sensational goalies, both of
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them. Before they had that, that after
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they had helmets, they had the Michael Myers.
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Mask I I I can't argue that the Florida Panthers are going.
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To be John Davidson. Yes, Florida's going to be the
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favorites and they have a couple of young guys that they're going
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to be probably calling up playing fourth or third lines
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because they're loaded on their top two.
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I mean, there's I don't think there's a team that has more
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depth than the Florida Panthers do.
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And I you can ask the Edmonton Oilers where they have the two
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best players in all of hockey dry Sidal and McDavid.
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They did all they can do and they still couldn't beat the
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Florida Panthers. So I would say, I would say the
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Panthers won Canucks to I'm going to go, I'm going to go
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with the Islanders bringing out Romanoff.
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Alexander Romanoff is still young.
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Four years, 50 million for a guy that had a great season last
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year and you're bringing all these young guys.
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Yeah, he's, he's 262526 years old.
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He's still very young. And he and he, remember, what
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was it 3-4 years ago? He was drafted by Montreal
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Canadiens, I mean. He was good on that, that random
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cup run team, like kind of. The five years, five years ago
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when he was drafted by but, but nevertheless, he's he's still
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fairly young. He had a great season, he stayed
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healthy and what now you're bringing in all these younger
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guys. What the Islanders need to do is
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they need a trade, either Mayfield, Poolock or Pellic.
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That's where they have to go. They're going to have to move
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one or maybe two of them because I want to see these young guys
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get brought up a lot sooner than later and I expect them to do
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that now that Darsh is there. I.
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Think they're going to trade one in the offseason.
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They'll probably trade 1 during the season I have a feeling.
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I think 2 out of the three. I don't like what the Oilers are
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doing. The Oilers just got beat by a
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team that just signed their guys.
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Marshan averaging. I mean, look, Marshan's 37.
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He's not playing till he's 43. That's done for cap purposes.
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He's not playing six years on that deal.
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I'd be very shocked if he played till he's 43.
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But they're not paying. Bennett's making 8A year,
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Ekblad's making six point whatever, 6.1 a year.
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Bouchard's going to be making over 10 a year, I believe
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Mcdavid's making 12. And so is Dry Sidle that doesn't
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win against the team that has depth of a bunch of $8 million
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players that can run you off the ice.
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They're trying to. Just saw that happen.
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They're. Trying to go for the Penguins
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formula because it's the way they built with that type of I
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guess system. Obviously, Crosby, Mulkin,
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McDavid, Dry. The same kind of lie.
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I will say this about the the New York Rangers.
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I think it was a slam dunk trading out of that picking and
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taking the Pittsburgh Penguins first round draft pick next year
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because Pittsburgh, you don't know what they're going to be
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next year. Sidney Crosby could be traded
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some part of the season. So could Malkin.
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This is an older team. Latang is another guy overpaid
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at his position. He's a great defenseman.
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Hall of Famer. All three of them are Hall of
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Famers. Yeah, Pittsburgh could be an
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absolute bust this year, and the Rangers could get a lottery pick
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because of. It I think they didn't reveal
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the teams obviously, but I think there was a source that said
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Sidney Crosby actually gave the Penguins three teams he would be
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traded. He would like to be traded so
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it. Won't be the Islanders, that's
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for sure, no. I doubt it.
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Let's talk about some of those trades we got.
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We had a whole bunch of trades in here.
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The biggest one we already you mentioned at the top was Mitch
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Marner. So Mitch Marner goes to Las
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Vegas and gets immediately gets an 8 year deal, $96,000,000 to
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play in Vegas. Let's start right there.
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I love it. Mitch Marner going over to Vegas
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with the talent that they have over there from you're talking
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about, we talked about the Florida Panthers, the second
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team that has as much depth or second most depth.
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Now adding niche Marner is the Vegas Knights.
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I mean, you can't even argue with that.
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And now you have Reichel and you have Marner.
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Could you imagine them play on the same line?
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Scary, scary. And and Mitch Marner with the
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speed and Reichel who who he could do everything.
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I mean, he's defense, offense I and and they're loaded from top
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to bottom. They have two good quality goal
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tenders, not great goal tenders, but quality goal tending.
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I and their defense is, is phenomenal.
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So yeah, I, I love Mitch Marta going over there to Vegas.
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Shocked that Vegas was the favorites to getting getting him
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before he even became available. Yeah, I was hearing that he was
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the favorite. They were the favorites for a
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while. I was also hearing the Kings
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were trying to make a swing for it.
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There were a couple other Western Conference teams that
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probably had a little bit of. Less he wanted to go to the
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heat. He wanted, he wanted to
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definitely go out there and Vegas I probably since George
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Mcphee's been there and since they became an expansive team,
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they've been one of the those teams not afraid to make those
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types of trades. The Islander Guy McPhee.
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Yes, George McPhee also was with Washington for a while, a guy
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that like to make swings over there for those big veteran
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guys. And they obviously they know
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fish another one of those teams that manipulates the cap very
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well to make that kind of thing work.
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And now a lot of those other deals look like bargains in
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addition to obviously the gems that they hit on in the
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expansion draft. And now Marner can become that
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type of really dynamic second scorer well with Eichel.
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And they'd be just as good, better than Eichel statistically
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during a year or two. And again, you got all those
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wing depth to go along with it too.
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I I would put them as my W favorite right now honestly.
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I got to talk about the Rangers. Rangers traded, finally traded
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Key. Andre Miller went to the
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Hurricanes and and the Hurricanes gave him an 8 year,
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$60 million deal right away. I could have sworn this was the
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same guy Speedy that couldn't play dead in the cowboy movie
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The entirety of last season. And every time they put him out
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there, they had him haplessly cover better players than the
18:48
other team. And it never went well except
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for like two or three guys that he was just able to get the long
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stick on because let's face it, that was the Miller's best
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thing. He has the long reach with the
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left hand, with the stick, everything else with that guy.
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I'm happy to see him go. I can't believe he got that much
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money and the Rangers got a first and a second for this guy.
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I think they're doing it basically, you always judge,
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especially in baseball trades. You also, but also hockey
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younger players too. You're judging based on the
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talent that he does have. And I think Carolina knows that
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the defensive system that they have has still rebirthed other
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guys that were worse. So that's the logic they're
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going to go on. Kiandre Miller still has a lot
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more overall talent and athleticism than Tony D'Angelo
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and guys like that that they've tried to make it work in their
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system. So maybe that's what they're
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banking on right now. Again, Don Waddell is a very
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inconsistent like overall GM. I'm not crazy about him, but I
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think they're still banking on the upside where they he could
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say, all right, this is a bargain if it does work out.
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DeAndre Miller is 2223 years old.
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He's a young guy now. He didn't play well in Madison
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Square Garden. He didn't play well with the New
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York Rangers. He was a high draft pick.
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I think he was a top ten pick when the. 25.
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Yeah, he was. That was the year the every
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first round pick. So he he was he was a high draft
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pick for the New York Rangers. Everybody expected.
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I remember when he played for the Badgers, we had Granado on
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the show. I was actually our hockey show
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and Tony Granado told me that this guy is going to be a star.
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It didn't work in Madison's great Garnet, but Carolina, they
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are very good defensive team. They have two of the best
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defensemen in all of hockey and our key Andre Miller gets to go
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over there and learn from two of the very best in the NHL.
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And I think a guy like keep always mess up Rob Brindamore,
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who's a very good defensive mind, offensive player that
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preaches defense. I think he's going to get
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Keandre Miller to play a little bit better hockey.
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I I don't know if he's worth 8 years, 60 million, I would say
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no, but he's a big body who can hit.
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If he learns a lick of NHL hockey, this guy could turn from
20:49
a bust into a star. That's how good Keandre Miller
20:52
was supposed to be and everything thing that Tony
20:54
Granado told us about him is he's a no brain superstar in
20:58
this league. But he hasn't become that.
21:00
And and that's because he played in Madison Square Ground in the
21:03
Rangers. Very hard place to play.
21:04
I was always in on him up until probably the 2023.
21:07
Player Mikey C loves him. Mikey C still loves him.
21:11
Says that you watch, he goes to Caroline.
21:13
He's going to be an old. I could see that just with the
21:15
way that defensive system. He loves over there.
21:17
He loves him. He tells me, oh, you don't know
21:19
how good Keandre Miller is. I think dude, Keandre Miller
21:22
sucks and the only reason why I think he might accomplish what
21:26
you're saying is accomplished because he's going to go to a
21:28
team with two of the best defensive defence mean in all of
21:32
hockey on one roster. So that would be the only way.
21:36
And he's going to learn from the best.
21:38
And Rob Brindle, Moore is a good coach, so we'll see.
21:41
So the just a quick a smaller trade.
21:44
John Gibson goes from the Ducks to the Red Wings for their
21:46
backup. Little goalie trade right there.
21:50
Just quickly. Gibson definitely an upgrade.
21:53
How much of an upgrade? Speedy.
21:54
Enough where I think Detroit, they had flashes of good goalie
21:58
play last year. Their offense was down at
22:00
certain points. That was the reason they
22:01
struggled in the first half of the season.
22:03
They rallied back to again almost be a playoff team.
22:05
They were in that cluster with the Rangers and the Islanders
22:08
and the Canadians at the time. Their goalies choked at the end
22:12
of the. Season, yeah, but they've always
22:13
gone through this cycle. They they've tried to make it
22:15
work. They gave the big money to the
22:17
Jelkovic who had that Goodyear with Carolina, but he fell off.
22:20
And this is the best chance that they have, though Gibson
22:22
actually played really well when the Anaheim core got old.
22:25
If he played better at that time, they might have won a Cup.
22:27
It just again, he's still a steady guy, though.
22:29
I like it. For Detroit.
22:29
I like it for Detroit. And Stevie Eiserman knows what
22:32
he's doing. Even though I can't stand the
22:33
man. I met him a couple of times.
22:35
He's a nasty piece. So you know what?
22:37
I, I he he knows how to to build the team.
22:39
He's won titles over there in Tampa.
22:42
He built that Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay Lightning team.
22:45
I don't think he gets enough credit that he should deserve.
22:48
I think he's going to help this Detroit team be a contender once
22:52
again. They have a lot of speed over
22:53
there, a lot of youth over there, have a very good form
22:56
system and John Gibson is a very underrate goaltender.
23:00
I would say you can I actually put him in the top ten.
23:03
I would put him 10 or 11 in on all of hockey.
23:07
I think he's a steal. I think he's going to, he's
23:09
going to help the Red Wings. Noah Dobson, I thought was
23:13
supposed to be the future for the Islanders on the defense, on
23:15
the blue line. They gave the money to the other
23:18
guy that we just mentioned and they decided to trade him for
23:21
the 16th and 17th picks, the 2025 draft in Montreal, who
23:26
signed him to an 8 year, $76 million deal on the spot.
23:31
Errol, this, this came out of nowhere for me.
23:34
What? What's going on with this?
23:35
Deal. I'll tell you why the Islanders
23:37
did it and it's pretty obvious they were going with Schaefer no
23:40
matter what. And I I do owe somebody a dinner
23:44
because I did not think the Islanders were going to go that
23:47
route, but they did. They brought in.
23:49
Now, if it was anybody else besides Josh, I think they go
23:52
with Misa. Misa is going to be a star in
23:54
this league just as much as Schaefer is.
23:56
But as soon as we heard it was a no brainer, they're going
23:59
Schaefer, I knew Noah Dobson was on his way out.
24:02
Noah Dobson is a great offensive defenseman.
24:05
He is not a good defensive defenseman.
24:07
Is he a top offensive defenseman, elite, Absolutely.
24:10
He's going home. He's going to Montreal.
24:13
Montreal giving up a 16 and a 17 for Noah Dobson.
24:16
I think that's a reach. I think the Islanders slam dunk
24:19
this trade. They were trying to move up for
24:21
James Hagen. There were stories coming out
24:23
they were trying to trade with Philadelphia.
24:25
Philadelphia had no interest in trading with them.
24:27
Higgins goes to Boston. But what a consolation prize
24:31
bringing in the guys that they brought in.
24:32
They brought one of the most underrated defenseman in this
24:35
draft class. Canadian kid who how do you
24:38
pronounce this? HSN agents in who?
24:40
They think he hits like a rock and and a guy could score.
24:44
He could do so many different things.
24:45
You put him with Shaffer in the future, that's your first
24:48
pairing for the future. 2 very good young defencemen.
24:51
And then this other kid who fell, he was some people thought
24:55
was a top ten pick offensively. His brother plays for the San
24:58
Jose Sharks. He's a great player.
25:01
They're saying that this kids better than his brother.
25:03
So I, I mean, if this guy turns into a 3540 goal scorer, it's a
25:09
slam dunk for the Islanders. This class for the New York
25:12
Islanders, people are saying could change the franchise.
25:17
They they didn't reach, they weren't surge, they were playing
25:21
surgery with any of this. They picked the best guys
25:24
available and they slam dunked on every single one of them.
25:28
Every single one of the guys they picked in this year's class
25:30
will be a part of that roster in the next three years.
25:33
Yeah, they were talking about going back to HSN.
25:35
They were talking about how obviously Shaffer was the number
25:37
one defenseman, the one Buffalo drafted at #9 was thought it to
25:40
be second and by him to be third and think it was a top ten
25:43
possible value in that draft. And then they get Echlin, like
25:46
you're saying, a kind of a different type of player than
25:49
his brother. They're both kind of smaller on
25:51
the smaller side, but still definitely room to grow in.
25:53
Speed, great hands, sees the ice very, very well and they say
25:57
stamina wise this guy could play a minute and 32nd shifts and not
26:02
be tired. When you have a player like
26:03
that, that's what you need defensively, you need that
26:06
offensively. That is why I think the
26:08
Islanders that first round was it was sensational for the New
26:12
York. Island.
26:13
Yeah, they were saying his brother too, like he doesn't
26:15
have, I don't think the the raw speed, but he's a better creator
26:18
with the puck and with his hands than his brother is.
26:20
And again, it's still a lot of time to grow in his body and
26:23
Tampa Bay his. Brother was there and said he's
26:25
a better player than me. I mean, his brother comes out,
26:30
he's a couple years older than him and it comes out and says
26:32
his 18 year old brother is better than him already.
26:36
That says a lot. I mean the again, he was a top
26:39
ten pick. He fell out to 16.
26:42
The Islanders were not reaching on that one guys.
26:45
That was a great pick for the Islanders so.
26:48
All right, let's finish this off.
26:49
Talk about some free agent signings and new places.
26:53
A couple of quick ones. Some veterans, Corey Perry and
26:56
Cody CC find their way to Los Angeles to play for the Kings.
26:59
The Red Wings take Van Reems Dyke and Patrick Kane, other
27:02
great so that again, smart moves with some veteran talent.
27:06
Michael Grandlin, 3 year, $21 million deal to go to the Ducks,
27:10
who I don't expect to be good, but he's a good player and he
27:13
got paid probably a little bit more than he was worth, but got
27:16
paid. So the Ducks got him.
27:17
And then there's the two big names.
27:19
How does? Corey Perry still have a job in
27:21
the NHL. He was awesome in the playoffs.
27:24
How does this guy still have a job in the NHL?
27:26
Fish, fish, place your future's bets.
27:28
Now, do you forget what Corey Perry did?
27:30
I mean, come on guys, don't, don't be lost on this.
27:34
Scores goals, like what's his face for the Cowboys?
27:37
Used to get to the quarterback. Didn't matter if he was doing
27:40
stuff going on a bed of guns. Doing other things too.
27:43
Fish place your your prop bets it out.
27:45
Corey Perry's been 4 out of 5 Stanley Cup losing teams.
27:48
You Kings win the Western Conference and lose at the
27:50
Stanley Cup all. Right.
27:53
Let's talk about the two defense.
27:54
I'm going to get out of this Provirov to the blue jacket
27:59
seven years, just under 60 million and the Rangers decide
28:03
no to to key Andre Miller yes to Vlad Gavrakov stepped up big
28:09
last year, I believe for the Kings dowdy out kind of took
28:13
over the mantle and now he got paid for his effort.
28:16
Seven years, 40. 9 I don't hate the move by the Rangers.
28:20
I really don't, but Pravarov is to me what the Blue Jackets got
28:26
from him. Yvonne Pravarov is the better of
28:28
the defenseman, all right, and seven years, 59.5 million is a
28:32
good deal for a top line defenseman.
28:36
I again, I'm not doing this because I don't like the
28:39
Rangers. I'm just doing it for what I
28:40
know. The Rangers bring in free agent
28:43
defencemen. They never pan out well, they
28:46
never do. Go back and look at all the free
28:48
agent defencemen they bring in. It doesn't work.
28:51
So I wouldn't be surprised if they fall flat on their face
28:54
with this. That's just my.
28:55
Opinion. Well, it's interesting because I
28:56
think the stylistic types of defencemen that they brought in
29:00
in the past where they're going for more of the speed and
29:02
offense have. I think Gavikov is a little more
29:04
of the defensive type. He's great shot blocker, which I
29:06
think the Rangers have definitely for a while.
29:08
I think that's where I think the Rangers did well with value.
29:11
I just worry about the the length when it comes to how
29:13
injury prone he's been. He's 29 years old and with
29:15
Columbus he was definitely very injury prone.
29:17
It's funny because I wanted the Rangers to trade for him a
29:19
couple years ago when he was with Columbus still before the
29:22
Kings got him. But I I do think he's a great
29:25
player for what they need. Great player.
29:27
Because I think it's a good, it's a good counter for that
29:28
first pair with Fox, who's wants to be more of that.
29:31
I'll tell you this, this could seal the deal for Chris Drury if
29:35
this doesn't work. Well, yeah, I'm not.
29:37
I'm still not justifying that, OK?
29:39
Chris Drury's going to be still thought of as anywhere close to
29:41
a good GM by any means. I'm going to tell you this Chris
29:44
crowd of going to Anaheim is a slam dunk.
29:45
Yeah, I love the jerseys. Anybody see their New Jersey?
29:48
The orange ones, yeah, fantastic.
29:50
I want to get a pair. I'll buy the jersey just because
29:53
I love the way it looks. As far as Proverov goes,
29:55
Proverov is an interesting one because he's a very physical
29:58
defenseman as well. He he's another guy that I think
30:01
skating wise has started to regress a little, but he's still
30:03
young enough where I think they can still make the seven-year
30:05
deal work. They probably had to.
30:07
He's a good. Player, He's a good player.
30:08
I always liked him in Philly. I think again, he's trying to
30:11
find that role with a new team could be hard.
30:13
But again, Columbus, they're right on the cusp.
30:15
Last year they were very close with a very good young team.
30:17
Now they get a veteran guy to go along with a pretty young
30:19
defensive core overall, and then obviously one of the best
30:22
defenseman in the NHL. And Zach Renski kind of
30:24
revitalized year last year after all the injuries he's had.
30:28
Look, Errol, I think you just mentioned earlier that the
30:31
Rangers decided to give away the pick this year so they'd have
30:36
the pick next year. Think about what what Drury has
30:38
to play with now. He's got 2 firsts and he's got 2
30:40
seconds going into the draft. Even if like that pick doesn't
30:44
turn into a top lottery pick, he's got 2 firsts and two
30:46
seconds. Let me ask you a question for
30:47
the trade deadline. Let me ask you a question.
30:49
In all the drafts that Chris Trey has been there for, tell me
30:53
one that really has stood out to be.
30:55
Very no. He's going to trade the picks.
30:57
He amasses them to trade them on guys that we lose after one
31:00
year, and then he has to do it all.
31:01
Over. I will say he he he's smart
31:04
because next year's class is an absolute slam dunk.
31:07
That's what they say for all offensive players.
31:09
And the number one pick, we all know who he's going to be.
31:12
He's the next Conor Mcdavin in the league.
31:14
Everybody is going to want to be in that lottery to get a chance
31:17
to land that kid. You saw the Islanders win from
31:20
maybe a 12th or 3rd, 13th spot to the number one spot.
31:24
They got that Shaffer who everybody thinks is going to be
31:26
a star in the league. This guy is a home run, slam
31:30
dunk, Grand Slam kind of guy. Everybody's going to want to be
31:33
in that move, in that spot where they get a chance to get him.
31:36
I know the Islanders aren't going to be good this year.
31:38
They'll be right there maybe. And they have two first round
31:41
draft picks this year, including Colorado's as well.
31:44
So it's going to be interesting. And the Rangers.
31:46
Rangers have 3. Yeah, maybe more than they could
31:48
trade for with two and like like you're saying, fish and getting.
31:51
Extra Gavin McKenna is the kids name.
31:54
Dude, dude, McKenna, I've heard so many stories about this kid.
31:58
He might even be better than Connor McDavid coming out going
32:01
into the draft. That's how good this kid is.
32:04
So it's sick. Go watch this.
32:07
Video and listen to these stats from McKenna.
32:10
Between regular season, playoffs and Memorial Cup, McKenna put up
32:13
173 points in 76 games, 129 in the regular season.
32:20
Is third amongst you under 18 players in the WHL.
32:25
In the last 35 years, he had points in 54 consecutive games.
32:31
He's ridiculous. He's going to be.
32:34
Insane. He like he's going to be better
32:36
than Bedard and when Bedard came he's been a bust and if I was?
32:40
In a bad second year. If I was Chicago right now, if
32:43
Bedard fails in Chicago this coming year at the trade
32:47
deadline, get as much as you can for Bedard.
32:49
Send him somewhere where he can develop because they're not
32:51
developing him right. This guy has got an unbelievable
32:54
shot and he really last year, what do you have?
32:56
23 goals, 25 goals. This guy's a sniper.
32:59
He had a low point total overall.
33:00
Horrible. I mean, he has been.
33:02
He's just like Alexis Lafenier. He was the number one.
33:05
Picker better than Lafenier? Oh, he's better, but I really?
33:08
Is he really? I don't know.
33:09
He's. Not the all, he's not the all
33:10
around player. He's got Lafenier.
33:12
Spots. Though too.
33:13
Not in Chicago, not in Chicago. That's all I'm going.
33:17
To say all right guys, that's hockey for now.
33:18
I'm sure we'll have more news going forwards.
33:21
That was the offseason rounds I. I feel bad for Bedard because
33:25
he's put in a really bad situation in Chicago and
33:28
ownership. Any executives over there are
33:31
betting on him to be the Patrick Kane or Jonathan Dames.
33:34
He's not that type of guy. I, I, I don't think he's a
33:38
leader. He's a quiet guy.
33:39
Anybody that's checked out the documentaries about him over the
33:42
last couple of years, you can see that he's not a big man.
33:46
He is a decent skater. He's not a great skater.
33:48
Unbelievable shot. But in hockey, you need speed.
33:52
Hockey is different now than it ever has been.
33:55
If you don't have the speed to keep up with some of these fast
33:58
guys, it's like the Connor Mcdavid's, the Barzell's of the
34:00
world and some of these younger guys that are just so fast.
34:03
You're not going to be able to be that elite player that
34:05
everybody thought you were going to be.
34:06
But Dart could fix that. John Tavares did.
34:08
He fixed it up and he he became a better skater.
34:11
I just don't know in Chicago if it's going to work and he's
34:15
still very young. Anyways.
34:16
Ladies and gentlemen, our deuce of the day, The deuce of the
34:20
day. You log not a log.
34:22
I don't have a log but. No.
34:31
Ladies and gentlemen, our deuce of the day.
34:33
We were speaking about it yesterday.
34:35
Thank you, Nathan, for reaching out to me and telling me.
34:37
Guess who's coming out of retirement?
34:40
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, Darren Waller has come out of
34:44
retirement and was traded. Yes, the New York Giants traded
34:49
him for a conditional pick to wear, ladies and gentlemen, the
34:53
Miami Dolphins. So what is that spell?
34:57
LOSER, Loser. Loser.
35:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have no idea why Miami even
35:07
traded a pick. I don't even know what is the
35:09
conditional pick is. It could be 1/4, a fifth.
35:11
It doesn't really matter. Darren Waller has been out of
35:13
league for a year. He wasn't the same player when
35:15
he went to the Giants. The Giants couldn't keep him on
35:18
the field for two years, more than 12 games.
35:20
The guy is a waste. He.
35:22
The story is great. This guy was an elite tight end
35:25
for maybe two years. And then after that, he's
35:27
completely disappeared. And now he wants to come back.
35:30
Why? Because he had to pay his wife
35:31
some money after they had a divorce.
35:34
She, she's one of the best athletes we've seen in women's
35:37
women's sports and she's not crying about it.
35:40
But Darren Waller, his rapid career is completely over.
35:43
So what is he going to do? He's going to come back to the
35:46
NFL and try to make a statement with a comeback.
35:48
But boy oh boy if anybody checked out his rapping it is
35:51
one of the worst I I daytime. Hoops, Hoops said It was really
35:55
good. He's horrible.
35:57
He is horrible. Dame.
35:59
I, if you want to hear an athlete rap, Dame's actually
36:02
good. He's actually a pretty good
36:03
rapper. He's been on with Jada Kiss,
36:05
he's been on with a bunch of rappers.
36:06
This guy, Darren Waller, he has been absolutely putrid.
36:11
It's horrible. His career was one and done, but
36:14
and I, I believe his comeback is going to be 1 and done.
36:17
I don't think he's going to last the whole season because the guy
36:19
can't stay healthy. So my deuce of the day goes to
36:22
the terrible Miami Dolphins as they bring back the one and only
36:27
Waller. And maybe it's not such a deuce
36:29
to the Giants because they got something back for a guy that
36:32
they didn't think was going to come back.
36:33
So a. Six round pick the throw.
36:36
We're doing a clap. Start throwing a tight end.
36:38
That's our deuce. I hope everybody enjoyed it.
36:41
We will be back on Monday next week.
36:43
We will be doing Monday and Thursday next week.
36:46
After next week, we will be moving to Wednesdays.
36:50
So it'll be Monday and Wednesdays for all the fans out
36:53
there tuning in and that will stay like that moving forward
36:57
into the NFL season. So stay tuned for that.
37:00
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37:17
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37:20
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