Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Glenn Dobson: Drug Detection Agency CEO on New Zealand's response to organised crime
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Casey Costello's Organized Crime Task Force that April reported it
- 0:03Speaker 1: is out and it's quite a doozy. Actually, some interesting
- 0:05Speaker 1: stuff in here. They say one of the biggest lies
- 0:07Speaker 1: in the world is that crime doesn't pay. It actually does.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Cops currently restraining seventy five million dollars a year in assets.
- 0:15Speaker 1: They want to do more. So some of the recommendations
- 0:18Speaker 1: from them. They say, ideally you would ban cash all
- 0:22Speaker 1: together in New Zealand because obviously that's the currency of
- 0:26Speaker 1: your criminal right. But they say you can't do that,
- 0:28Speaker 1: so you've got to restrict its use. Certain industries they say,
- 0:32Speaker 1: like construction, hospitality, agriculture. Certain industries they say should be
- 0:36Speaker 1: banned from paying wages in cash. You would have to
- 0:39Speaker 1: use electronic means. They want the cops to be able
- 0:42Speaker 1: to monitor bank accounts in real time. A whole bunch
- 0:46Speaker 1: of stuff in here. Joining me to discuss Glen Dobbs
- 0:48Speaker 1: and the Drug Detection Agency CEO Glenn good morning, Yeah,
- 0:52Speaker 1: good morning, right, what did you make of that?
- 0:54Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it was interesting reading. I think the main
- 0:57Speaker 2: part of the report reinforce it favorable in terms of
- 1:01Speaker 2: business improve the market, and that's the same for transnational
- 1:04Speaker 2: organized crime groups. You know, we're moving a lot of
- 1:06Speaker 2: drugs New Zealands at the moment, and they go, I
- 1:08Speaker 2: guess is to make unfavorable are taking cash and bring
- 1:10Speaker 2: around other regulations around that.
- 1:12Speaker 1: The problem they've always got is that crime moves fast,
- 1:17Speaker 1: and enforcement agencies can only move at the speed of law,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and that often takes too long.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and that's a challenge not only domestically
- 1:26Speaker 2: in New Zealand, but obviously we're talking about transnational organized crime.
- 1:30Speaker 2: The agencies obviously have to play within the rules of
- 1:33Speaker 2: the regulations allow them to play with And I think
- 1:36Speaker 2: what this report is doing is saying, hey, look, we
- 1:39Speaker 2: need to move faster, we need to move with times.
- 1:41Speaker 2: We're dealing with financial markets and that moves quickly, and
- 1:44Speaker 2: we need to give our authority the best chance to
- 1:47Speaker 2: target the profits of the transnational organized crime groups to
- 1:51Speaker 2: stop these drugs coming into our country.
- 1:53Speaker 1: That graph, how scary was it? Looking at that graph
- 1:56Speaker 1: that shows the price of methanphetamine and which has come down,
- 2:00Speaker 1: but the use the consumption of it that there's just
- 2:03Speaker 1: a line going to the sky.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Yeah, look that it is really scary for the country.
- 2:08Speaker 2: And you know, we've seen racing is on the waist
- 2:11Speaker 2: wood a stack show that meth is going through the
- 2:12Speaker 2: roof as well. The Drug detex Changing. We had a
- 2:15Speaker 2: conference just last week. We had some US experts over
- 2:19Speaker 2: speaking about the global movements of drugs and so on,
- 2:22Speaker 2: and one of our experts on meth if you opened
- 2:25Speaker 2: the conference with saying very clearly, at all it is
- 2:28Speaker 2: all about the money. It's the one thing it's all about.
- 2:30Speaker 2: And whether they're moving drugs or where they're moving human trafficking,
- 2:33Speaker 2: whether they're doing other sort of illicit trades, it's all
- 2:36Speaker 2: about the money. So I really support this report trying
- 2:39Speaker 2: to cut their ability to use the profits.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting stuff. Appreciate your time this morning, Glenn. Glenn Dobson,
- 2:44Speaker 1: the Drug detect Detectant Agency CEO, just gone nine minutes
- 2:48Speaker 1: away from six. Yeah. One of the other things that
- 2:51Speaker 1: it mentions is the crypto ATMs. We've got about two
- 2:55Speaker 1: hundred crypto ATMs and you get then they say we
- 2:58Speaker 1: shouldn't they should all be banned for.
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