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Inside The Data: Historic Data Points In Latest Eagles Blowout Win · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome back to Inside the Data on Inside the Birds.
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Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher and of course we got our data
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Speaker 1: analyst and expert Sam Finkel, and Sam I probably should
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Speaker 1: have taken given you a break this week and not
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Speaker 1: made you have to go deep dive into one of
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Speaker 1: the craziest blowouts you ever see, a game in which
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Speaker 1: the Raiders managed just seventy five yards that in itself
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Speaker 1: might be worthy of an Inside the Data just how
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Speaker 1: a team can only get seventy five yards of offense,
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Speaker 1: but obviously a little bit of a wake up for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles offense, a dominant performance by the Eagles defense,
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Speaker 1: and the Raiders are now two and twelve. So what
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Speaker 1: did you seek? Is there anything that you sought to
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Speaker 1: find when you were doing this edition of Inside the Data.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there were a couple of things. First off,
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to look at this game kind of
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Speaker 2: as a get right game for the Eagles, that they
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Speaker 2: needed it, they took advantage of it, and it feels
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Speaker 2: pretty good the outcome. So I just wanted to see
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Speaker 2: what the statistics kind of said about it. So looked
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Speaker 2: back into that formation statistics we did cool looked into
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Speaker 2: some of the other stuff and then looked at some
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Speaker 2: individual statistics. This one is definitely interesting. You know, you
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Speaker 2: don't want to overreact based on one game, but you
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Speaker 2: hope that they can carry this momentum for the rest
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Speaker 2: of the season and to the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this show is sort of like the Eagles offense,
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Speaker 1: I think, in that you've introduced a few new concepts
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Speaker 1: each week to give readers or viewers and listen to
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Speaker 1: something different, and then you're keeping it. You're expanding on it.
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Speaker 1: So like the win percentage at a certain juncture in
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Speaker 1: a game, go through that because it was never very
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Speaker 1: high for the Raiders, as you can imagine. Formation concepts
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Speaker 1: that you brought in in the last show will continue
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Speaker 1: to look at that as well. But let's start off
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Speaker 1: like we always do. And this is gonna be fun,
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Speaker 1: right the basic in advanced data, if you're just looking
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Speaker 1: for some really cool things on the Eagles, is gonna
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Speaker 1: be quite fun because they dominated this game in a
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Speaker 1: way that you're gonna see a lot more green than
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Speaker 1: red or even white. Here. I tell you what, Sam,
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Speaker 1: There's one thing I always say, there's one thing that
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Speaker 1: jumps out to me. There is something in this that
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Speaker 1: jumps out to me as a positive where I don't
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Speaker 1: really care who the opponent was. Can you guess what
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if I had, I mean, is it
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Speaker 2: the time of possession?
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Speaker 1: No, there was something that I think the Eagles have
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Speaker 1: been doing poorly at that they did much better that
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Speaker 1: may go under the radar. In fact, Well, I can
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Speaker 1: give you a but the clue would deadbeat given away.
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Speaker 1: So I was giving I'll give you one more guess again.
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Speaker 1: Does the opponent in this case doesn't really matter to me.
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Speaker 1: It's more about what the team itself does.
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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean yards per pass would make sense. I
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Speaker 2: mean they're at ten point seven, which is much higher
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Speaker 2: than normal.
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Speaker 1: But I don'ts that's opponent to me, that's opponent specific.
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Speaker 1: But the penalties that have been killing the EU. They
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Speaker 1: have been in the seven to eight for sixty seventy yards. Now,
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Speaker 1: some of that is opponents specific, but I thought, just
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Speaker 1: we talked about this, the false starts, the mental you know,
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Speaker 1: the issues, the alignment issues, but only three penalties for
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Speaker 1: thirty five yards, I thought was a good step for
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Speaker 1: this team.
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Speaker 2: Well, and you know, it really translated because we're going
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Speaker 2: to talk about these third down statistics, and I think
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Speaker 2: it really impacted them specifically, because I mean, listen, penalties
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Speaker 2: do put teams off drives. It really does affect them.
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Speaker 2: So I think that there is definitely a correlation between
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Speaker 2: that penalty statistic you just talked about and the third
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Speaker 2: down statistics, which, by the way, I'm excited to talk
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Speaker 2: about the third down statistics today.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I was gonna ask you if this was an
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Speaker 1: episode where we just don't brush over into seconds though
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Speaker 1: their improvement was staggering, Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, that
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Speaker 1: was good. Obviously, no turnovers, huge because that had been
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Speaker 1: an issue during their three game losing streak coming off
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Speaker 1: the five turnover game against the Chargers. And yeah, I
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Speaker 1: do think yards for past, even though it's the Raiders,
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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily the number that's so high, which it
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Speaker 1: is at almost eleven. But look at the difference between
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Speaker 1: the two teams.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a staggering difference. I don't think you're
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Speaker 2: gonna find a more higher delta among really any other
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Speaker 2: teams this year.
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Speaker 1: One yard for past, God, that is embarrassing. Alright, third
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Speaker 1: down stats, So already you're excited about third down for
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Speaker 1: the first time in about maybe the twelve weeks.
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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, it's green.
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Speaker 1: I put it there.
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Speaker 2: It's put Yeah, it was ridiculously impressive. We haven't seen
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Speaker 2: that in a long time for the Eagles, so it's
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Speaker 2: worth discussing for a little bit. I mean they were
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Speaker 2: ten for thirteen around seventy seven percent. Uh, and then
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Speaker 2: the Raiders are what the Eagles look like. They're three
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Speaker 2: for twelve twenty five percent. I mean it really impressive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, another wide delta on that one of you know,
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Speaker 1: more than fifty percent points. I think when I look
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Speaker 1: at it, though, Sam and see that they're for the season,
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Speaker 1: they're thirty four percent and against the Raiders they're seventy
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Speaker 1: seven percent, it's such a wide variety that it does
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Speaker 1: have the outlier fuel to it. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: we'll get a better idea of this offense as far
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Speaker 1: as is it more efficient on third down? Is a
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Speaker 1: better situationally in the next week and two weeks really
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Speaker 1: with the Bills in there.
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Speaker 2: Too, well, listen, I mean, like you said, the penalties, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean that those are drive killers when you don't
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Speaker 2: have those mental mistakes. We don't have penalties, you know,
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Speaker 2: you don't have false starts or you know, holding it.
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Speaker 2: It really allows the offense to do its thing, and
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Speaker 2: I do think some of the play calling was a
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Speaker 2: little bit better. I think some of the sequencing was better.
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Speaker 2: But I think that not having as many penalties I
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Speaker 2: think really impacted the ability of the offense to convert
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it didn't change a whole lot. One game is
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Speaker 1: never going to right change a whole lot for the
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Speaker 1: seasonal third down statistics. But I do believe most of
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Speaker 1: these third downs against the Raiders were of the third
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Speaker 1: and short, were third and mid variety, not nearly as
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Speaker 1: many third and longs as we still see as is
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Speaker 1: where the Eagles kind of live this year. With ninety
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Speaker 1: four third and long attempts compared to I still think
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Speaker 1: that's more than the total of short and mid combine. Right, Yeah, So.
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Speaker 2: To do ten of the thirteen were third and short
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Speaker 2: and third and mid.
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Speaker 1: Imagine that that's quite a bit. So that's a lot,
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Speaker 1: right of the thirteen. And yet they're still in third
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Speaker 1: and long more than short and mid combined this year,
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Speaker 1: so they've got some work to do in that area.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And for the ones that were third and long,
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Speaker 2: the Eagles three, they were three for three on third
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Speaker 2: and Long's right, and the Raiders had six third and
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Speaker 2: longs and went zero for six long.
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Speaker 1: This game has delta written all over it.
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Speaker 2: My friend, it really is an anomaly. But it's fun
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Speaker 2: and it's good and hopefully that trend can continue.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, for those who are listening, they
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Speaker 1: can't see the pie charts that we're showing now. I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to change dramatically from one game. But again,
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Speaker 1: it's a step in the right direction.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree.
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Speaker 1: Eagles opponents being in third and long at forty four percent,
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Speaker 1: I wonder if that's getting closer after the Raiders game
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Speaker 1: to last year where it was forty seven. I think
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Speaker 1: forty four is a little bit of a jump up
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Speaker 1: from what it was the week before. It is certainly
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Speaker 1: a jump up for sure. Yeah, that'll do it. When
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Speaker 1: you're Poland has six or seven of those. So oh man,
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Speaker 1: every gen Zer listening to this show just went six
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Speaker 1: to seven.
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Speaker 2: You had to throw that in there.
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Speaker 1: I did. I have two daughters, all right, I like this.
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Speaker 1: You introduced this concept last show, I believe for the
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Speaker 1: first time, and that is the peak win percentage, just
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Speaker 1: sort of a chart for those who are only listening
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Speaker 1: that shows each team's percentage of winning at various junctures
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Speaker 1: throughout the game, all throughout the game, and the Raiders
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Speaker 1: just never went.
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Speaker 2: Over what is it thirteen percent?
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Speaker 1: Never over thirty? Does that include when they got the bus, Sam.
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Speaker 2: It's probably doesn't because you know, it's probably closer to
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Speaker 2: fifty fifty. It's probably never like exactly fifty fifty, but
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Speaker 2: it's probably closer. But yeah, according to this data, they
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Speaker 2: never exceeded thirteen percent throughout the game.
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Speaker 1: No, you have a nice fun fact. And this was
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Speaker 1: you know how I have talked about how the Eagles
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Speaker 1: have played so many of those what we call writers
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Speaker 1: call them control alt delete games where you have your
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Speaker 1: story written and then the last five minutes everything changes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they still might win, but not the way
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Speaker 1: they were. You know, you're up at twenty one, or
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Speaker 1: you're and you win twenty eight twenty one, or then
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Speaker 1: you're down and then you come back to win. That
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Speaker 1: Egles kind of games this year, This one was pretty straightforward.
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Speaker 1: And what's your fun fact?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was the second shortest game in
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Speaker 2: NFL history at two hours and minutes.
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Speaker 1: I knew it was short, but I didn't even think
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Speaker 1: to research where it was in historical perspective like that
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Speaker 1: the second shortest game? Does that include? Is that Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl era or is this like in the history the
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Speaker 1: long history of the NFL AFL all that.
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Speaker 2: I believe it is just Super Bowl history.
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Speaker 1: That's still amazing. By the way, I said, I think
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, right, so we're talking like fifty six years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it could have been shorter. There were like
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Speaker 2: a couple of TV timeouts that yeah, impact do you.
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Speaker 1: Happen to have the shortest game? Since you did? You
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Speaker 1: got this as the second shortest.
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Speaker 2: Let's see the shortest game in NFL history.
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing it has to be something like prior to
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Speaker 1: the advent of every of Monday night football, Thursday night football,
10:22
Speaker 1: Sunday night, you know. TV sports.
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Speaker 2: They called this one the shortest. But the one that
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Speaker 2: I see is two hours, twenty nine minutes, which was
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six San Diego Chargers versus Indianapolis Colts twenty six.
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Speaker 1: Nineteen nineteen ninety six. What year did the Chargers go
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? Do you remember they went to
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with the Humphreys as their quarter You
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Speaker 1: might not even born I was. I think they played
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers in the Super Bowl. It was
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Speaker 1: kind of a year that nobody thought the Chargers.
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Speaker 2: Were going to be Charge were in the Super Bowl
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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety five.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I was close, Sam, I was very yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: They had a running back named Natron Means and he
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Speaker 1: was this big, strong and Chris Berman at Sports Center
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Speaker 1: would go, Natron Means business because he was just like
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Speaker 1: people would fall off of him. He was a power
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Speaker 1: running back. And I think that I think that Sayo
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Speaker 1: was in ISRAELI yours with that with that defense. So oh,
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Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison I think was on that team. So good team.
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Speaker 2: The CBS Sports article also size the shortest game of
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Speaker 2: the Century still correct, Still correct.
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Speaker 1: Okay, they're good century millennium same right, yeah, yeah, but
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Speaker 1: I do remember the Chargers got they got their ass
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Speaker 1: kicked by the forty nine Ers and the super I
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Speaker 1: think that was the Joe Montana forty nine Ers, So yeah, sure,
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Speaker 1: so fun fact. But yeah, they could run the ball
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Speaker 1: and play defense, so that would make sense why that
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Speaker 1: came against the Colts, the Colts who might have been
11:53
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far as the Weeds
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Speaker 1: of this game might have been the year they were
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Speaker 1: quarterbacked by Jim Harbaugh. How about that.
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Speaker 2: That's a fun fact right there.
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Speaker 1: All right now, I am gonna look it up. I
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Speaker 1: think NIX six ninety six Colts. All right, let's go
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Speaker 1: check it out. Who was the quarterback? Oh, Marshall Fulk
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Speaker 1: was on that team before he got traded sid A
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Speaker 1: Rams how about that?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
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Speaker 1: Remember Marshall fall So two really good running backs there.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was the case started fourteen games a year,
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Speaker 1: seven and seven.
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Speaker 2: Good pull.
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Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks. That just means I'm getting old. All right.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Eagles offense advanced data.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: You know what's gonna jump out to me right well,
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Speaker 2: you know it jumped out to me because I bolded it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, So so two things really jumped out,
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Speaker 1: and both of them have different colors than green. So
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Speaker 1: let's go to yours first. Why did you bowld the
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Speaker 1: net time before pressure?
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Speaker 2: It is the first time I've seen it positive and
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Speaker 2: this positive like this positive, which just means that Hurts
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Speaker 2: got the ball out before he was pressured.
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Speaker 1: Right now, for the season, for those you can't see,
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Speaker 1: they were at a minus point two two, which I'll
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Speaker 1: explain that average.
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Speaker 2: It just means that herts was consistently holding the ball,
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Speaker 2: holding onto the ball longer than like he was getting
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Speaker 2: pressured as he was throwing. What this means is the
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Speaker 2: ball was getting out before the pressure was getting there
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Speaker 2: on average.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's quite a flip to go from minus
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Speaker 1: point two to a plus point three. You know, that's
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Speaker 1: a pretty significant difference.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it explains some of the efficiency
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Speaker 2: or just the bad of the you know Raiders. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it could be both, probably.
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Speaker 1: So I was a little surprised. I've said all week
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Speaker 1: that to me, it was a little bothersome that they
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Speaker 1: could do everything as well as they did except really
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Speaker 1: rediscover a dominant run game. They ran for one to
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Speaker 1: eighty six, which is their second most of the year,
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Speaker 1: but their average per carry was under four some of that,
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Speaker 1: you know, they had a towush push dance short yard.
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Speaker 1: So let's even say it was four point one, that
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Speaker 1: would be sort of disappointing in the grand scheme against
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Speaker 1: the Raiders defense that was unable to stop anybody else.
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Speaker 1: But your EPA per rush here data really illustrates that, YEP,
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Speaker 1: still bad but worse than their season average. Bait that
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have I didn't think it was that bad, but
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Speaker 1: it clearly it was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're just not efficient running the ball,
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Speaker 3: and it's too It's too bad, Sam, because they did
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Speaker 3: a couple of things that I liked, including thirteen personnel
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Speaker 3: with cam alat two out there gap scheme runs.
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Speaker 1: We saw Dickerson pulling, we saw some trapping. We saw
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Speaker 1: a lot to a lot two coming across the line
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage like either you can call it a wham
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Speaker 1: block or a trap block, depending on how where his
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Speaker 1: positioning was. So I thought that did some interesting hat
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Speaker 1: on hat concepts, you know, which ordinarily there are a
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Speaker 1: zone running team and I you know, I guess I
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Speaker 1: would have guessed that their EPA per rush would have
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Speaker 1: been a little bit higher than there see average, not lower.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have too. But listen, I mean these
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Speaker 2: concepts they're working on, they may work in the future,
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Speaker 2: but they like and the payoff doesn't have to be
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Speaker 2: this game, is what I'm saying. It did not reflect
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Speaker 2: that in the stat sheet. But like the eye test,
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Speaker 2: which we've talked about the difference between you know, statistics
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Speaker 2: and the eye test and how the eye test is
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Speaker 2: very important and they should compliment each other, not really
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Speaker 2: supplement each other. But I think the eye test is
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Speaker 2: telling that these concepts could work and should work in
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Speaker 2: the future. And the statistics honestly are probably lagging behind.
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Speaker 2: But I think if they continue to work and be
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Speaker 2: efficient at it, this the stix will fix themselves.
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Speaker 1: Oh. I mean the eagles have to hope that because
15:48
Speaker 1: they've been waiting for a lot of years for that
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Speaker 1: EPA per Russia is still weird to me because it's
19:40
Speaker 1: worse than their season average, yet they had a better
19:43
Speaker 1: run success rate by about nine percent. Now some of
19:47
Speaker 1: that was probably Jalen Hurts running.
19:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:49
Speaker 1: In fact, I would imagine that that really inflates the numbers. Yeah,
19:53
Speaker 1: because they're run stuffed rate, which is more about your
19:56
Speaker 1: running back than anything, is below their season averag. Absolutely, yeah,
20:02
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Just only a little bit below is what
20:04
Speaker 1: I meant to say. So they were still getting stuffed
20:07
Speaker 1: at a decent amount, but their success was higher because
20:11
Speaker 1: of the Hurts runs. Sure, all right for mation, let's.
20:16
Speaker 2: Go with that. So I changed this a little bit,
20:19
Speaker 2: played around it. I used my success metrics that we
20:23
Speaker 2: used at Penn State when I was there, because I
20:26
Speaker 2: liked those and I think they're good. If you remember,
20:29
Speaker 2: if you watch the show. You listen to this show
20:31
Speaker 2: in the past, it's in the bottom right. You can
20:34
Speaker 2: see it. First down you pick up forty percent or more.
20:38
Speaker 2: So it's just, you know, a four yard gain or
20:39
Speaker 2: more that's efficient. Second down you pick up half of it,
20:43
Speaker 2: third down you pick it all up, and fourth down
20:45
Speaker 2: you pick it all up. So I looked at all
20:47
Speaker 2: the plays under that context based on the formation, and
20:50
Speaker 2: that's how we determined what is efficient. And I split
20:53
Speaker 2: it up between runs and passes. And that being said,
20:57
Speaker 2: you look at their efficient runs. They were sixty six
21:00
Speaker 2: percent efficient on their runs, and that's still generated a
21:04
Speaker 2: negative zero point zero seven EPA rush. You look at
21:09
Speaker 2: the passes and they were efficient on sixty eight point
21:12
Speaker 2: two percent of the passes, and yet that created a
21:15
Speaker 2: zero point eight seven EPA per pass. Because what the
21:20
Speaker 2: difference is is, you know, EPA looks at like how
21:24
Speaker 2: do you get yourselves in a position to score, like
21:26
Speaker 2: do you improve that? Versus this just looks at efficiency,
21:29
Speaker 2: and that's just are you keeping the drive in, are
21:32
Speaker 2: you keeping the drive going? Can you maintain it? Are
21:35
Speaker 2: you on schedule? That's really the big difference, and that's
21:38
Speaker 2: why the efficiency statistics are much closer because they were
21:42
Speaker 2: efficient on both whatever they decided to do, But did
21:46
Speaker 2: they put themselves in a better position to score more
21:49
Speaker 2: likely than not by the pass and and implicitly by
21:52
Speaker 2: the system Like the way it's done generally, EPA per
21:55
Speaker 2: pass it puts you in a better position just naturally
22:00
Speaker 2: because you gain more yards by passing. Typically. Yeah, that's
22:04
Speaker 2: why naturally you'll see most of the time EPA per
22:07
Speaker 2: pass be higher than EPA per run. Just at the outset,
22:10
Speaker 2: I wanted to explain the different sure concept.
22:12
Speaker 1: Sure and by the way, for those who who can't
22:15
Speaker 1: see and those were watching the pie chart at single back,
22:19
Speaker 1: which is basically under center back behind the quarterback, sort
22:23
Speaker 1: of traditional nineties football. Eagles have forty four percent, their
22:27
Speaker 1: highest percentage of the year twenty nine snaps of under
22:32
Speaker 1: center with this again, and it continues to really help
22:35
Speaker 1: them more in the pass game, ironically than the run game,
22:37
Speaker 1: with a sixty two zero point one percent total success
22:41
Speaker 1: and one pass success six for six, So under center
22:45
Speaker 1: continues to be a spark for the Eagles offense. Maybe
22:47
Speaker 1: not the way they intended it, because I think they
22:49
Speaker 1: thought it would help their run game, but it has
22:51
Speaker 1: actually helped their pass game because of the great play
22:54
Speaker 1: action that they get on What do we have here
22:58
Speaker 1: on Jalen Hurts?
23:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean listen, we're back on positive CPOE completion
23:03
Speaker 2: percentage of expectation, Hurts making the tough throws and his
23:07
Speaker 2: receivers making the tough catches. Hurts was twelve for fifteen
23:11
Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy five yards, three touchdowns and
23:14
Speaker 2: zero interceptions. All completed throws are on the left and
23:19
Speaker 2: three obviously in the middle of the field. It's very
23:22
Speaker 2: interesting the cluster that you see that it's it's pretty
23:27
Speaker 2: much middle left, Yes, one in completion to the right.
23:31
Speaker 1: I thought the touchdown that he threw to AJ Brown
23:35
Speaker 1: was caught, but is that, Oh that is the touch Okay, yeah,
23:37
Speaker 1: it's right there at the numbers. Yeah, I thought when
23:39
Speaker 1: he caught it it was actually between But I mean
23:41
Speaker 1: it looks like this chart shows as he's striding he
23:45
Speaker 1: gets in between the numbers. So two, that's in between
23:47
Speaker 1: the numbers.
23:48
Speaker 2: Throw you know you can call it that and that.
23:50
Speaker 2: I mean it is between the numbers for sure, like
23:53
Speaker 2: it certainly is. You can see it on there.
23:55
Speaker 1: This does look more like his old charts though of
23:57
Speaker 1: completely on one.
23:58
Speaker 2: Side of the Yeah, it's very very one side center right.
24:02
Speaker 1: But I mean when it's there, you take it for
24:04
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys were wide open.
24:06
Speaker 2: I don't think that's sustainable. Though. You need to spread
24:08
Speaker 2: the ball out a little bit more.
24:09
Speaker 1: Agree, I do. I mean, it's not it's showing it
24:12
Speaker 1: as incomplete. But well, I guess I don't know the
24:14
Speaker 1: penalty on the first drive AJ Brown that was down
24:17
Speaker 1: the right sideline. Either way, there you go, twelve fifteen
24:22
Speaker 1: one seventy. Forgot.
24:23
Speaker 2: Hurts also became the first QB in the Super Bowl
24:25
Speaker 2: era to throw three plus touchdowns with three or fewer
24:28
Speaker 2: incompletions innocingly.
24:31
Speaker 1: Wow. The accolades continue. And I think that the CPOE
24:35
Speaker 1: there at just two point nine, which you thought might
24:37
Speaker 1: have been way higher given the kind of game that
24:40
Speaker 1: he had, just shows you that they were just there
24:43
Speaker 1: were not difficult windows for him to have to thread
24:45
Speaker 1: that touchdown. AJ Brown might have been the only one.
24:48
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. It shouldn't be. They shouldn't always
24:50
Speaker 2: be difficult.
24:51
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree. I think it's a good thing.
24:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's indicative of the scheme actually taking advantage of
24:58
Speaker 2: creating guy's space and opening.
25:01
Speaker 1: That's what you want.
25:03
Speaker 2: Barkley's oh go ahead, Well I was gonna say with Barkley,
25:06
Speaker 2: it's the exact opposite. All the success was to the
25:09
Speaker 2: right as opposed to the left. So it's a little
25:12
Speaker 2: bit interesting. It's like we punched to the left with throw,
25:15
Speaker 2: we counterpunched with runs to the right.
25:17
Speaker 1: Now the one The one thing's interesting though, is that
25:19
Speaker 1: we've we have felt, at least Adam and I that
25:22
Speaker 1: running outside might be a better tact for now, with
25:25
Speaker 1: the injuries and the beat in the wear down of
25:28
Speaker 1: the Eagles interior line, it looks like they really did.
25:30
Speaker 1: And part of that was what I was talking about
25:32
Speaker 1: with having a lot to come across the line of screamers.
25:35
Speaker 1: They did try to work, pulling tight ends and linemen
25:39
Speaker 1: to get outside a little bit more in gap scheme.
25:41
Speaker 1: So this is evidence of that.
25:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and that's the only reason I put
25:46
Speaker 2: it up now. I could have easily said Goddard was
25:49
Speaker 2: the star of the stat sheet, but I'm still not
25:52
Speaker 2: convinced on this offense summers. I'm reserving it for I
25:56
Speaker 2: think any other good offensive performance.
25:58
Speaker 1: I think we all are all right. It's no star
26:02
Speaker 1: of the statute for offense or defense. What can I mean,
26:06
Speaker 1: Let's look at all the Green h versus the Raiders
26:09
Speaker 1: compared to even their their season average, it's all very good.
26:14
Speaker 1: Trying to think if there's a zero stack box. That's
26:16
Speaker 1: interesting because the Raiders will play multiple tight ends Meyer
26:21
Speaker 1: and Crosby, and they will. They try. They're not good
26:25
Speaker 1: at that. They try to run with their you know,
26:27
Speaker 1: top pick ashing genty but you will, excuse me, shut
26:30
Speaker 1: them down and didn't devote a whole lot of resources
26:32
Speaker 1: to it.
26:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean both Meyer and Meyers and Bauers
26:36
Speaker 2: did not do well, you know, So yep, it's interesting.
26:41
Speaker 1: Would you say at twelve point nine, a thirteen percent
26:43
Speaker 1: sack rate is one of the highest you'll you'll see?
26:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about that was going to be my
26:48
Speaker 2: next thing, especially on a six point five percent blitz rate.
26:52
Speaker 1: Right, that's incredible, right there, a thirteen percent sack rate,
26:57
Speaker 1: a twenty three percent pressure rate on just a six
27:01
Speaker 1: and a half percent. I think they threw one blitz
27:02
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken.
27:04
Speaker 2: I mean it would make sense.
27:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you get a number that low, and
27:09
Speaker 1: that would make our star of the statue. You love
27:12
Speaker 1: this guy as your stars.
27:13
Speaker 2: I love Vic Fangio. I'm sure all Philadelphia fans at
27:18
Speaker 2: least they should love Vic. If you don't love Vic Fangio,
27:22
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can be a fan of
27:23
Speaker 2: this team. I mean, he is heart and soul of
27:25
Speaker 2: this team. The defense is pretty much the heart of
27:28
Speaker 2: the heart and soul of the team.
27:29
Speaker 1: So I like that you picked a picture of him
27:31
Speaker 1: for those who can't see, it's like his mug shot
27:33
Speaker 1: with the Eagles hired on and he's smiling, and it's like,
27:36
Speaker 1: you never see victim with this kind of smile, but
27:38
Speaker 1: you know that they're taking the team photo and he
27:40
Speaker 1: has to smile. So I just it makes me wonder
27:43
Speaker 1: how off how many times they had to ask him to,
27:46
Speaker 1: like widen that smile a.
27:47
Speaker 2: Little bit for this, But they probably talked Phillies with him.
27:50
Speaker 1: And that's a good point. That's a good point. So
27:54
Speaker 1: you have set your stat here on the seventy five
27:56
Speaker 1: total yards.
27:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fewest by the Eagles in a single
28:01
Speaker 2: game of the Super Bowl era, and it's the fewest
28:04
Speaker 2: yards allowed this season. The average one yard per drop back,
28:07
Speaker 2: which we already talked about.
28:09
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing. I mean, I feel the Raiders. You just
28:11
Speaker 1: have to be embarrassed by that. Yeah, it's one yard
28:15
Speaker 1: per drop back. I mean, you practice three days a week,
28:18
Speaker 1: but you're there from you know, Tuesday to Saturday. Are
28:21
Speaker 1: you putting a lot of time and energy and resources.
28:24
Speaker 2: To do that.
28:25
Speaker 1: That's tough.
28:26
Speaker 2: It is tough. And one of the things that was interesting.
28:30
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it when we get the spray chart.
28:32
Speaker 2: But I was talking to my dad while we were
28:33
Speaker 2: watching the game, and I was just like, Kenny Pickett
28:36
Speaker 2: will not throw the ball more than eight yards. That
28:38
Speaker 2: was the euristic I told him. I said, you just
28:40
Speaker 2: won't see it, and if he does, it won't be completed.
28:43
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what the spray chart will show. And honestly,
28:46
Speaker 2: he didn't really have time to throw it more than that,
28:48
Speaker 2: but I just from his time here, just that's what
28:51
Speaker 2: I was expecting.
28:53
Speaker 1: Sure, Continuing with this first down sixcess, I like this,
28:57
Speaker 1: this is a good stat that we probably are going
29:00
Speaker 1: through for the first time or not as much. But
29:02
Speaker 1: Raiders first down success was thirteen point three percent, so
29:06
Speaker 1: they were behind the sticks all game.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the fourth lowest by any defense this season.
29:12
Speaker 2: And yeah, I also want to just mention one statistic
29:15
Speaker 2: that we didn't go right before this shutout was the
29:20
Speaker 2: Eagles first shutout since Washington Week seventeen, twenty eighteen.
29:25
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen. Trying to think of remember that game? Okay, Yeah,
29:29
Speaker 1: I wonder which which of the eleven quarterbacks the command
29:32
Speaker 1: the Washington was playing over that span was the guy
29:37
Speaker 1: that was the year after the Super Bowl, So Kirk
29:40
Speaker 1: Cousins maybe, I.
29:42
Speaker 2: Mean that makes sense unless he was hurt at that point, which.
29:45
Speaker 1: Very very well, which has always been the case. When
29:48
Speaker 1: the Eagles played Washington, Yeah, they only.
29:51
Speaker 2: Allowed one explosive play the entire game. And this statistic
29:56
Speaker 2: is probably my favorite of the entire show. The Eagles
29:59
Speaker 2: did not record any mistackles, huge first by any defense
30:04
Speaker 2: this season.
30:05
Speaker 1: Now, this is weird because watching the tape doors there
30:07
Speaker 1: was one play where they threw it to Bowers on
30:09
Speaker 1: the side and he kind of got out from I
30:12
Speaker 1: think at Dori Jackson diving at his ankle. I wonder
30:15
Speaker 1: exactly how they track miss tackles because I thought that
30:18
Speaker 1: and listen, this is really nitpicky, but since it's we're
30:21
Speaker 1: talking about this specific stat I think there was one
30:24
Speaker 1: or two plays where a guy was at another guy's
30:27
Speaker 1: ankle or a leg and just couldn't come up with
30:29
Speaker 1: it and the guy got a the Raider got a
30:31
Speaker 1: yard or two more. But that's I mean, it's fine.
30:33
Speaker 1: I'm just I just wonder exactly who tracks it and
30:37
Speaker 1: what their their criteria is.
30:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish we had a little more information on
30:41
Speaker 2: that that would make it a little bit better.
30:43
Speaker 1: For sure, BG the og if you watched the game,
30:48
Speaker 1: it felt like he was playing every down because he
30:52
Speaker 1: had to. He had two sacks and a tackle for
30:55
Speaker 1: a loss, and he was lined up on the inside,
30:57
Speaker 1: and he kept like saying his name. And yet how
31:01
Speaker 1: many snaps did he play?
31:02
Speaker 2: So seven?
31:03
Speaker 1: Seven?
31:04
Speaker 2: That's it.
31:05
Speaker 1: Talk about making your presence known, on making the most
31:08
Speaker 1: of your limited opportunities.
31:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, they were seven impactful snaps, right sure.
31:15
Speaker 2: The first snap that he played, eight yard sack, second
31:19
Speaker 2: snap incomplete pass, third snap seven yard sack by him,
31:23
Speaker 2: fourth snap incomplete past, fifth snap, same thing, sixth nap
31:27
Speaker 2: interception by Bond, seventh snap ten yard sacked by Smith.
31:31
Speaker 1: And he had pressures on those that interception in sack.
31:33
Speaker 1: I mean he was he had. I don't even know
31:36
Speaker 1: what else to say anymore about Brandon Graham. He's just
31:38
Speaker 1: a legend for a reason.
31:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you you probably talked about him shifting to
31:43
Speaker 2: the inside, which I think was really interesting and it
31:45
Speaker 2: worked pretty well, especially in Carter's absence. But I did
31:49
Speaker 2: note six out of the seven he was playing interior
31:52
Speaker 2: defensive line.
31:53
Speaker 1: You just did the six to seventh thing.
31:54
Speaker 2: Now, Oh, you made somebody, but I Didn'tally, I should
32:00
Speaker 2: dissipated that though.
32:04
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett's pass chart looks like something that doesn't look
32:09
Speaker 1: like a pass chart. There's no lines, No, it's only
32:14
Speaker 1: a little few pepperings of the field. I mean everything
32:16
Speaker 1: is at the line of scrimmage behind nothing more than
32:19
Speaker 1: ten Like you said, one explosive play so and not
32:22
Speaker 1: even I don't know this is this is like pee
32:25
Speaker 1: wee pophorn or football pass charge here.
32:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it shows that he really didn't go past
32:31
Speaker 2: that you know, eight to ten yard mark at all,
32:35
Speaker 2: and when he did it was interception in completion, incompletion, incompletion, one.
32:40
Speaker 1: Completion minus eight point eight cpo e. Yikes. Oh boy.
32:45
Speaker 2: Not the best, no former Eagle, you know, but hey,
32:51
Speaker 2: we'll take it.
32:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, So some some of this up for me, Sam,
32:55
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Raiders, but Adam and I have
32:57
Speaker 1: said the pod the Raiders have of a three point
33:01
Speaker 1: loss to the Broncos, a seven point loss to the Broncos,
33:04
Speaker 1: a one point loss to the Jags, they get off
33:06
Speaker 1: the bus to play. I mean, I think that the
33:08
Speaker 1: Eagles got right in a sense. But at the same time,
33:12
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously some better competition ahead.
33:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but this was needed. This has been
33:19
Speaker 2: one of the most grueling schedules I think the Eagles
33:21
Speaker 2: have faced in a long time, and it's not just
33:24
Speaker 2: because of the competition. I mean, they haven't had back
33:26
Speaker 2: to back home games. They this is their fourth game
33:31
Speaker 2: or maybe fifth game where they have short rest like
33:34
Speaker 2: they have strong they have. The schedule hasn't been beneficial
33:38
Speaker 2: to them because of the competition, one which the Eagles
33:41
Speaker 2: can't control. I mean that's determined by the league in
33:44
Speaker 2: advance for the most part. Some of it has to
33:47
Speaker 2: do with how they performed last year, some of the
33:49
Speaker 2: additional games, but I mean it was a tough schedule
33:53
Speaker 2: by virtue of because they were won the Super Bowl
33:56
Speaker 2: and they were a Super Bowl team. It's a tough
33:58
Speaker 2: schedule that naturally it was a tough schedule just beaus
34:01
Speaker 2: of the divisions they were playing, but the schedule makers
34:04
Speaker 2: didn't make it easy on them. So I think it's
34:08
Speaker 2: acceptable how they performed. But I think this was a
34:11
Speaker 2: much needed game to carry some momentum. You know, see
34:15
Speaker 2: the concepts that worked well and I think it got right.
34:18
Speaker 2: Game is exactly what it was, and I agree.
34:22
Speaker 1: I mean, we could have it be having a totally
34:23
Speaker 1: different discussion at this time next week or We're talking
34:27
Speaker 1: about the build and going into this Buffalo game with
34:29
Speaker 1: momentum and maybe finally this Eagles team really starting to
34:33
Speaker 1: figure things out.
34:34
Speaker 2: But that is a.
34:35
Speaker 1: Discussion for next week. This was all about the Eagles
34:38
Speaker 1: blasting the Las Vegas Raiders. Sam, great job going inside
34:43
Speaker 1: the data as you always do each week. That's going
34:46
Speaker 1: to do it for the show for Sam Finkel. I'm
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