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- 0:14Speaker 1: What Riding for Justice has done is reached out to
- 0:20Speaker 1: people that knew Jennifer Harris.
- 0:23Speaker 2: How often do you saddle up and ride?
- 0:26Speaker 1: Once a month.
- 0:27Speaker 2: You got a big crowd? Let's keep it safe. Something
- 0:34Speaker 2: has touched the people of Fannin County about this case. Absolutely.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Everybody in this county wants to see this case solved.
- 0:42Speaker 3: To let something like this go on this long is
- 0:44Speaker 3: uncalled for.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Jennifer Harris was.
- 0:47Speaker 4: Well loved here. That's a Jennifer Harris case, everything that's involved.
- 0:53Speaker 5: This is the whole investigation right here?
- 0:56Speaker 4: This is it.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Sheriff, I hope you don't mind me asking, but that
- 1:01Speaker 2: doesn't seem like a whole lot for 15 years.
- 1:04Speaker 4: Well, that's all we got to work with.
- 1:05Speaker 3: It doesn't get any easier.
- 1:08Speaker 6: There's not one day that I don't wake up and
- 1:12Speaker 6: think about my sister.
- 1:13Speaker 7: I wish I.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Could only have a handful of the friends she had.
- 1:18Speaker 1: She was.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Amazing.
- 1:23Speaker 6: She was the red-haired girl who was the goofball, adorable,
- 1:28Speaker 6: lovable Lucille Ball type.
- 1:32Speaker 3: She smothered me with love.
- 1:34Speaker 2: On Mother's Day, 2002, no different than any other day,
- 1:38Speaker 2: you take the walk.
- 1:39Speaker 8: Right.
- 1:40Speaker 3: I saw a Jeep, but I didn't think anything about it.
- 1:43Speaker 6: But then when it was here the second day, you're like,
- 1:44Speaker 6: why is that Jeep still here?
- 1:46Speaker 3: I get a phone call that her Jeep had been found.
- 1:49Speaker 3: What did she do leaving her Jeep on the side
- 1:51Speaker 3: of the road?
- 1:58Speaker 8: There was a fisherman who was fishing on the Red River.
- 2:01Speaker 8: He saw a body in the water.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I remember going to the Red River, to the bridge,
- 2:10Speaker 3: seeing the police officers, the sheriff.
- 2:13Speaker 9: There are more up here, y'all.
- 2:15Speaker 6: And I remember my dad being right there with him.
- 2:20Speaker 6: And I just, let me see her.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Let me see her. Let me see. Is it hers?
- 2:26Speaker 3: It can't be her.
- 2:27Speaker 10: It has to.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Why?
- 2:30Speaker 10: Is it her?
- 2:31Speaker 1: Is it her?
- 2:32Speaker 4: Whenever we move her, just move right into a bowl.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Is it really her?
- 2:40Speaker 8: The body is completely naked.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Not a stitch of clothing.
- 2:43Speaker 8: Not a sock.
- 2:44Speaker 6: The way she was disposed of like a piece of trash.
- 2:48Speaker 6: She didn't deserve that.
- 2:50Speaker 8: The medical examiner listed the cause of death as homicidal violence.
- 2:55Speaker 1: What is that?
- 2:56Speaker 4: Were they strangled? Were they shot? Those are the things
- 2:58Speaker 4: you need to know.
- 3:01Speaker 11: Jennifer's murder impacted my wife and her family. You can't
- 3:05Speaker 11: even put it in words.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Cemetery 01.
- 3:08Speaker 11: This is unlike anything that I've ever done as a filmmaker,
- 3:11Speaker 11: but I thought he said it the first time we
- 3:12Speaker 11: were with him. Finding the killer and actually being able
- 3:16Speaker 11: to prove where's the physical evidence, who the killer is.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Let's continue with the timeline.
- 3:21Speaker 11: This is much more than a passion project because this
- 3:24Speaker 11: is family. We're going to follow through and we're going
- 3:27Speaker 11: to get this done.
- 3:30Speaker 2: You want to know who killed Jennifer Harris? Absolutely.
- 3:34Speaker 3: I'm a Texas girl.
- 3:35Speaker 8: I believe in justice. Old school justice.
- 3:37Speaker 10: 48 Hours, Murder on Red River.
- 4:14Speaker 2: In the northeast corner of Texas, where the banks of
- 4:16Speaker 2: the Red River touch Oklahoma, you'll find Fannin County and
- 4:20Speaker 2: the town of Bonham, one of the oldest cities in
- 4:25Speaker 2: the Lone Star State. And it's where Mark Johnson, who
- 4:30Speaker 2: had just wrapped up 32 years in law enforcement, decided
- 4:34Speaker 2: to ditch retirement and run for sheriff in 2016.
- 4:38Speaker 12: I met Jerry Harris, the father of the young lady,
- 4:42Speaker 12: on the campaign trail.
- 4:44Speaker 2: And he made a promise from one father to another
- 4:47Speaker 2: to continue the investigation into the murder of Jerry's oldest daughter,
- 4:51Speaker 2: 28-year-old Jennifer Harris, a case unsolved for more than 15 years.
- 5:00Speaker 4: When I came here January 1, I demanded that case
- 5:05Speaker 4: be brought to me.
- 5:06Speaker 2: That was the first thing you did?
- 5:07Speaker 12: Yes, I wanted the Jennifer Harris case.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Jennifer's father, a Marine and Vietnam veteran, finally has hope.
- 5:16Speaker 7: I think he's serious about trying to solve this case.
- 5:19Speaker 8: This is my office.
- 5:20Speaker 2: And he's not the only one. For the last eight years,
- 5:25Speaker 2: Darrell Parker has been working with Jerry Harris to solve
- 5:28Speaker 2: his daughter's murder. First as a lieutenant in the Fannin
- 5:32Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Office, and now as a private investigator.
- 5:36Speaker 8: A Marine never meets a stranger if he meets another Marine.
- 5:40Speaker 2: He too was a Marine, and Parker has never charged
- 5:44Speaker 2: Jerry a dime.
- 5:45Speaker 8: I still have a lot of that Captain America justice
- 5:49Speaker 8: kind of thing going on. I want Jerry and his
- 5:51Speaker 8: family to find justice.
- 5:53Speaker 2: In high school, Jennifer Harris was popular and athletic.
- 5:58Speaker 7: Brilliant red-haired girl, bright brown eyes, played tennis, and was
- 6:03Speaker 7: a cheerleader.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Jennifer's younger sister, Alyssa.
- 6:08Speaker 3: She was a dreamer.
- 6:09Speaker 6: She was an idealist, and she knew that there was
- 6:13Speaker 6: a bigger world outside of Bonham, Texas.
- 6:16Speaker 8: Bonham is probably your prototypical small-town USA. Gossip is on
- 6:22Speaker 8: an epic scale.
- 6:24Speaker 2: When Jennifer Harris goes missing, How does that news play
- 6:29Speaker 2: in Bonham?
- 6:30Speaker 8: It was a bombshell because this girl was not too
- 6:33Speaker 8: far removed from high school. To understand that she had
- 6:37Speaker 8: been murdered, it disturbed a lot of people.
- 6:39Speaker 7: She was only 28 years old. She was just beginning
- 6:42Speaker 7: to come into her own right when she was murdered.
- 6:45Speaker 12: The day that I came in here and looked at
- 6:47Speaker 12: her cases, it opened in those boxes.
- 6:50Speaker 4: I wanted to sit down on the floor and cry.
- 6:53Speaker 2: That's because after more than 15 years, This is all
- 6:57Speaker 2: they have to work with.
- 7:00Speaker 5: And what do we have in each of these boxes?
- 7:04Speaker 12: This is all documentation that's in there. You know, when
- 7:07Speaker 12: she first came up missing, they're looking for newspaper articles,
- 7:12Speaker 12: business records. And this is just some case reports. You
- 7:16Speaker 12: can see that now this was wet. A lot of
- 7:18Speaker 12: this stuff got wet. They had some pods out back.
- 7:21Speaker 12: They stored a lot of evidence.
- 7:23Speaker 4: They leaked. A lot of stuff got wet.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Contaminated.
- 7:27Speaker 4: Yes. Some of them got destroyed.
- 7:29Speaker 8: The file was very light. Duplicates of the same paperwork
- 7:33Speaker 8: over and over and over again. It was a mess.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Although the original investigators have said they did their best,
- 7:40Speaker 2: Jennifer's laptop computer and clothing, a shirt, bra, and jeans
- 7:45Speaker 2: that might have been hers, were booked into evidence, but
- 7:49Speaker 2: somehow mysteriously disappeared.
- 7:52Speaker 4: It's just been mishandled.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Why would it be mishandled?
- 7:55Speaker 4: I honestly don't know.
- 7:57Speaker 12: The only thing I can gather out of it is
- 7:59Speaker 12: lack of experience, lack of training.
- 8:02Speaker 2: It was Mother's Day, 2002. Jennifer was visiting her friend,
- 8:06Speaker 2: Christy Farr, in the early evening. It gets to be
- 8:09Speaker 2: close to 8 o'clock, and Jennifer's like, I got to go?
- 8:13Speaker 1: Correct.
- 8:15Speaker 2: She never told Christy where she was going, but Jennifer
- 8:18Speaker 2: Harris never returned home that night. The next day, Jennifer's
- 8:23Speaker 2: Jeep was discovered. parked just down the road from a
- 8:26Speaker 2: local music spot. While she was still missing, authorities reached
- 8:31Speaker 2: out to the two men in her life.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I know I'm not guilty of anything.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Her former boyfriend and business partner, James Hamilton, and her ex-husband,
- 8:40Speaker 2: Rob Holman.
- 8:42Speaker 7: Well, how you doing?
- 8:43Speaker 3: Pretty good.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Both agreed to speak with investigators without a lawyer present.
- 8:47Speaker 2: They had not been arrested, but both men were read
- 8:50Speaker 2: their Miranda rights.
- 8:52Speaker 1: So you have the right to make a silence.
- 8:57Speaker 2: And both denied seeing Jennifer the night she disappeared. According
- 9:05Speaker 2: to his police interview, Jennifer's former boyfriend, James Hamilton, was
- 9:10Speaker 2: with a friend more than an hour away from Bonham
- 9:13Speaker 2: at this McDonald's around the time investigators believed Jennifer disappeared.
- 9:18Speaker 2: He even took and passed a lie detector test.
- 9:22Speaker 8: He had an alibi for that evening. Alibi checked out.
- 9:25Speaker 2: But ex-husband Rob Holman seemed concerned about his alibi.
- 9:31Speaker 7: I'm just worried and scared because I know that I
- 9:34Speaker 7: don't have anybody to say where I was at that night.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Rob told investigators he had gone out that night to
- 9:41Speaker 2: buy beer and visit friends. But when they weren't home,
- 9:45Speaker 2: he drove around alone for five hours on the roads
- 9:48Speaker 2: of rural Fanning County.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Sunday when you went riding around? Mm-hmm.
- 9:53Speaker 10: You saw it?
- 9:55Speaker 9: I didn't see it.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Or something. I saw a Jeep, but I didn't see,
- 9:58Speaker 1: I don't know whose it was.
- 10:00Speaker 2: But when the investigator pushes harder, it sounds like Rob
- 10:03Speaker 2: is admitting he did see her Jeep that night.
- 10:07Speaker 13: Where did you see her Jeep?
- 10:18Speaker 2: By now, Jennifer had been missing for 72 hours. The
- 10:22Speaker 2: search would continue for three more days.
- 10:26Speaker 7: I was getting about three or four hours sleep a night.
- 10:29Speaker 7: Spent the rest of my time searching, driving country roads,
- 10:34Speaker 7: looking for buzzards.
- 10:36Speaker 2: That's a hell of a thing for a father to
- 10:38Speaker 2: have to do.
- 10:39Speaker 4: That's what I did.
- 10:41Speaker 7: Until they found her. Things seemed to go in slow motion.
- 10:46Speaker 7: It was very surreal.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Finding Jennifer's body six days after her disappearance devastated her father, Jerry.
- 10:55Speaker 2: But it did little to clear up the mystery of
- 10:57Speaker 2: what had happened to her. She was so badly decomposed,
- 11:01Speaker 2: the medical examiner couldn't determine the cause of death. But
- 11:07Speaker 2: Jennifer's family believes they know the answer. Her sister, Alyssa,
- 11:12Speaker 2: and her filmmaker husband, Barry Wernick, are on a mission.
- 11:16Speaker 2: to prove who killed Jennifer and why. In the time
- 11:21Speaker 2: you've been looking into this, have you gone from, I
- 11:25Speaker 2: want the facts to shape my opinion, to now having
- 11:28Speaker 2: a sense of who killed Jennifer? Absolutely.
- 11:45Speaker 6: To think about how beautiful she was and her red
- 11:49Speaker 6: hair and just how.
- 11:55Speaker 3: And to think about how she was found.
- 12:01Speaker 6: That's what I just can't let go of until justice
- 12:05Speaker 6: is done.
- 12:05Speaker 8: There's a prom dress.
- 12:07Speaker 1: There's that prom dress.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Filmmaker Barry Wernick married Jennifer Harris' sister Alyssa eight years
- 12:13Speaker 2: after Jennifer's murder.
- 12:15Speaker 11: When Alyssa first told me about her sister's murder, the
- 12:19Speaker 11: first thing that came to my mind was, who did it?
- 12:21Speaker 1: Do you know who did it? All these things started
- 12:23Speaker 1: going through my mind.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Barry and Alyssa are determined to answer those questions by
- 12:29Speaker 2: making a docuseries.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Didn't transcribe that?
- 12:32Speaker 2: Barry, an experienced filmmaker, was a consultant on this broadcast.
- 12:37Speaker 11: I felt like I could use my filmmaking ability to
- 12:42Speaker 11: do our own investigating. because it didn't seem like anyone
- 12:45Speaker 11: was doing it.
- 12:46Speaker 2: He is working hand-in-hand with Daryl Parker and another private eye,
- 12:50Speaker 2: Jim Holloway, reexamining everything. We are in a place, this
- 12:57Speaker 2: is central to your theory of what happened.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Yes.
- 13:02Speaker 2: The reason why Daryl Parker is so sure this is
- 13:05Speaker 2: where Jennifer died is because of a clue that lies
- 13:09Speaker 2: on the river's floor, a short way down this dirt road.
- 13:14Speaker 8: She had some blue mud on the front of her,
- 13:16Speaker 8: according to fishermen. There were only two spots on the
- 13:19Speaker 8: river within several miles that that mud is on the bottom.
- 13:23Speaker 2: And this is one of them.
- 13:25Speaker 8: This is that blue marl mud that was on the body.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Not far from the riverbank, there used to be a cottage.
- 13:32Speaker 8: This is where the original, you know, caretaker cottage was.
- 13:36Speaker 8: And it just so happened to burn down the night
- 13:37Speaker 8: that Jennifer Harris disappeared. That is a piece of melted
- 13:42Speaker 8: glass from the original fire.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Parker suspects Jennifer left her friend Christy's house and met
- 13:47Speaker 2: her killer here. He believes the cottage was burned to
- 13:52Speaker 2: hide the evidence. No godly earth reason for that shack
- 13:56Speaker 2: to burn.
- 13:57Speaker 8: At the same night, Jennifer comes up missing.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Parker hoped to find clues here.
- 14:02Speaker 8: We came here with a crew and excavated the whole
- 14:04Speaker 8: thing 15 feet that way to another 10 feet that
- 14:09Speaker 8: way on either side of this foundation.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I see a well.
- 14:12Speaker 8: We drained the well. And then we dug down in
- 14:14Speaker 8: the muck, probably a foot or two, and we didn't
- 14:18Speaker 8: come up with anything.
- 14:19Speaker 2: But years of coming up empty hasn't deterred Daryl Parker
- 14:24Speaker 2: or Barry and Alyssa Wernick. And it hasn't shaken their
- 14:27Speaker 2: conviction of who killed Jennifer.
- 14:31Speaker 3: When I think about Jennifer, I think about Jennifer and Rob.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Rob and Jennifer were together for as long as anyone
- 14:37Speaker 2: can remember. She was a sixth grader when she began
- 14:41Speaker 2: dating Rob, a fifth grader. By high school, the teenagers
- 14:46Speaker 2: were practically inseparable, says Jennifer's cousin, Susan Bowen.
- 14:51Speaker 13: He was just part of our family from the time
- 14:55Speaker 13: we were growing up. Jennifer was just in love with him.
- 14:59Speaker 13: She just adored everything about him.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Jennifer had big dreams, bigger than could take flight in
- 15:05Speaker 2: small-town Bonham.
- 15:07Speaker 7: Jennifer had potential to explore greater horizons than just Fannin County, Texas.
- 15:14Speaker 2: She moved three hours away to go to college. A
- 15:17Speaker 2: few years later, Rob followed her there, and the couple
- 15:20Speaker 2: married in 1996.
- 15:21Speaker 5: It was gorgeous.
- 15:24Speaker 6: It was meticulously planned at a very beautiful mansion out
- 15:28Speaker 6: in the country.
- 15:35Speaker 2: One year after the wedding, Jennifer's mother died of cancer.
- 15:40Speaker 3: You could tell she had learned a lot.
- 15:42Speaker 6: In the few years that we lost our mother, she
- 15:46Speaker 6: became an adult that was very open-minded.
- 15:52Speaker 2: In 1999, the couple bought a house in suburban Dallas,
- 15:56Speaker 2: but there was friction brewing.
- 15:58Speaker 6: I think that my sister was growing and evolving and
- 16:01Speaker 6: moving forward in her life, and Rob was stuck.
- 16:06Speaker 3: And he just wasn't going to change.
- 16:08Speaker 2: According to Jennifer's family, Rob, who was working in landscaping,
- 16:12Speaker 2: preferred the slower pace of rural Bonham while she enjoyed
- 16:16Speaker 2: living near a big city. Jennifer embraced a holistic lifestyle
- 16:21Speaker 2: and enrolled in massage therapy school.
- 16:23Speaker 3: She transformed in front of my eyes.
- 16:26Speaker 6: She said that she had met someone who was like-minded
- 16:30Speaker 6: and who wanted to change. start a business that was
- 16:34Speaker 6: a massage and wellness center.
- 16:36Speaker 2: That someone was James Hamilton, someone she'd met in that
- 16:40Speaker 2: massage therapy school.
- 16:43Speaker 3: He was different, but.
- 16:44Speaker 5: In what way?
- 16:46Speaker 3: Well, he was new age and.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Touchy-feely? A little bit. Their relationship was complicated. James was
- 16:55Speaker 2: living with the mother of his child and had another
- 16:58Speaker 2: on the way. Jennifer was still married to Rob.
- 17:02Speaker 6: I told her that it was not a good idea.
- 17:04Speaker 2: And what did she say?
- 17:07Speaker 3: She didn't tell me a lot after that. She knew
- 17:10Speaker 3: where I stood.
- 17:11Speaker 7: I went up there to see what was going on
- 17:14Speaker 7: in their lives.
- 17:16Speaker 2: When Jennifer's father got there, he was shocked to see
- 17:19Speaker 2: holes in the wall. While no one knows for sure
- 17:22Speaker 2: how they got there, Jerry seemed certain Rob was responsible.
- 17:27Speaker 7: He took his fist and knocked five holes in the
- 17:30Speaker 7: living room wall about as big as a softball.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Jerry remembers the holes in the wall. Alyssa remembers something worse.
- 17:41Speaker 6: My sister called me one night and was shaking in
- 17:46Speaker 6: her voice.
- 17:47Speaker 2: She says Jennifer told her Rob came home drunk and
- 17:51Speaker 2: forced himself on her. Jennifer never reported the alleged attack,
- 17:55Speaker 2: But Rob would later tell police after her disappearance that
- 17:59Speaker 2: Jennifer was the violent one in the relationship. Rob moved
- 18:13Speaker 2: back to Bonham, and Jennifer's new love interest, James Hamilton,
- 18:17Speaker 2: moved in with her. They became partners in a massage
- 18:21Speaker 2: therapy business in suburban Dallas. but Jennifer's infatuation with James
- 18:27Speaker 2: quickly faded.
- 18:29Speaker 7: Well, James wanted to marry her, and she refused to
- 18:32Speaker 7: marry him, and he was very upset about that.
- 18:36Speaker 2: The private investigators say Jennifer's relationship with Hamilton was rocky.
- 18:41Speaker 7: Real fiery, just fussing and fighting at each other all
- 18:45Speaker 7: the time.
- 18:46Speaker 2: By the spring of 2002, your sister is leading one
- 18:50Speaker 2: complicated life emotionally.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Jennifer had divorced Rob, and her relationship with James was
- 18:57Speaker 2: on the skids. To add to the chaos, the massage
- 19:01Speaker 2: business had failed, and Jennifer was forced to file for bankruptcy.
- 19:06Speaker 6: I think that everything was catching up to her, and
- 19:09Speaker 6: she never really grieved my mom's death.
- 19:13Speaker 3: And I think she was exhausted.
- 19:15Speaker 13: She said, I'm not happy. I don't care about the
- 19:17Speaker 13: business anymore.
- 19:18Speaker 2: With no job or income, Jennifer confided in cousin Susan
- 19:23Speaker 2: that she'd been back in touch with her former husband,
- 19:26Speaker 2: Rob Holman, who now had a new girlfriend.
- 19:29Speaker 13: And she said, I still love him. And she said,
- 19:32Speaker 13: I want him back. And she said, I even told
- 19:34Speaker 13: him that.
- 19:35Speaker 2: In fact, Rob later admitted to police that even though
- 19:38Speaker 2: he had a girlfriend, he and Jennifer were still having sex.
- 19:45Speaker 5: So Jennifer was living a little bit of a spellbender life.
- 19:51Speaker 13: To a certain extent, but James didn't know it. He
- 19:54Speaker 13: knew nothing about it all.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Then one day, Susan saw Jennifer outside her apartment with
- 20:00Speaker 2: a moving truck.
- 20:01Speaker 13: I said, what are you doing? And she said, I'm
- 20:04Speaker 13: moving to Bonham. I thought, you're only going to Bonham
- 20:08Speaker 13: because Rob's in Bonham. Okay, and with that, I turned
- 20:12Speaker 13: around and left, and that was the last time I
- 20:14Speaker 13: ever saw her.
- 20:15Speaker 2: About six weeks later, Jennifer disappeared. On the very day
- 20:20Speaker 2: she went missing, she called Rob. Rob says she asked
- 20:24Speaker 2: to see him, but he refused. Rob agreed to take
- 20:36Speaker 2: a polygraph to back up his story, but for some reason,
- 20:39Speaker 2: It was never administered. Sheriff's investigators allowed him to go home.
- 20:44Speaker 2: They had a lot more digging to do, and it
- 20:47Speaker 2: centered around a secret Jennifer had shared with her best friend,
- 20:51Speaker 2: Jill Wagner, just weeks before she died.
- 20:54Speaker 13: You know, we started talking, and she was kind of like,
- 20:56Speaker 13: you're not going to believe, you know, the mess I'm in.
- 20:58Speaker 3: And she told me how, you know, that you're pretty
- 21:02Speaker 3: much a guest.
- 21:02Speaker 8: I was like, you're pregnant.
- 21:05Speaker 2: If Jennifer was pregnant, who was the father? Was it
- 21:09Speaker 2: Rob Holman or someone else? That question became even more
- 21:13Speaker 2: important after the medical examiner's autopsy revealed a stunning piece
- 21:19Speaker 2: of information.
- 21:20Speaker 4: Her uterus was gone.
- 21:40Speaker 2: When they examined Jennifer Harris's body, investigators were shocked.
- 21:45Speaker 8: There was a wound that affected some of the internal organs.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Her uterus was missing.
- 21:51Speaker 10: Her death was classified as a, quote, violent homicide.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Her uterus had somehow been removed.
- 21:57Speaker 8: The question was, what damaged her?
- 21:59Speaker 2: What would have the motive been?
- 22:01Speaker 8: That she was possibly pregnant, and that the person who
- 22:04Speaker 8: killed her was trying to destroy that evidence.
- 22:08Speaker 2: In Bonham... Where gossip is often taken for gospel, people
- 22:13Speaker 2: couldn't stop talking.
- 22:14Speaker 8: The public grabbed a hold of that information and they
- 22:16Speaker 8: started concocting their own theories as to who did it
- 22:19Speaker 8: and why.
- 22:20Speaker 2: But according to the case file, there was no scientific
- 22:23Speaker 2: evidence to prove Jennifer was actually pregnant at the time
- 22:28Speaker 2: of her death. Still, Jennifer's best friend Jill Wagner told
- 22:32Speaker 2: investigators she had talked to Jennifer about being pregnant. And
- 22:36Speaker 2: that's not all she said.
- 22:38Speaker 14: You know, she told me that it was Rob's, and
- 22:40Speaker 14: I was kind of shocked.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Rob Holman, Jennifer's ex-husband. He had revealed to detectives in
- 22:47Speaker 2: his police interview that he'd met Jennifer a month before
- 22:50Speaker 2: she disappeared near a drive-in movie theater.
- 22:54Speaker 8: She told me that she was pregnant.
- 22:57Speaker 6: I definitely think that she brought it up with Rob,
- 23:01Speaker 6: and in my mind, that's what led to her death.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Daryl Parker had long been familiar with the story of
- 23:09Speaker 2: Jennifer being pregnant. Eight years after her murder, Parker, then
- 23:14Speaker 2: a lieutenant for the sheriff's department, dropped by Rob Holman's house.
- 23:19Speaker 2: It was Sunday, Mother's Day, a calculated move by Parker.
- 23:24Speaker 8: So it was the anniversary of the crime. I had
- 23:26Speaker 8: picked out a number of photographs of her and Rob,
- 23:29Speaker 8: one of those being Jennifer swimming in a muddy body
- 23:32Speaker 8: of water. And when I gave him the stack of photographs,
- 23:36Speaker 8: The very first one he picked out was that one
- 23:39Speaker 8: with the muddy water. He stood there for about five
- 23:41Speaker 8: or six seconds staring at that photograph.
- 23:43Speaker 2: But that's the one that caught his attention.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Like that.
- 23:47Speaker 8: You know, I said, well, if you want to talk,
- 23:49Speaker 8: call me. And I gave him my card and I left.
- 23:51Speaker 2: A few hours later, to Parker's surprise, Holman called and
- 23:55Speaker 2: wanted to talk. But Parker had wanted to record the interview.
- 23:59Speaker 2: So he suggested they meet at the sheriff's office the
- 24:02Speaker 2: next day.
- 24:03Speaker 8: That's where I screwed up. I should have gone right
- 24:06Speaker 8: then and there. I think he was ready to talk
- 24:08Speaker 8: and say something, and I should have just done it.
- 24:18Speaker 2: This really has you still. Why so emotional, Daryl? You're
- 24:25Speaker 2: really blaming yourself here.
- 24:27Speaker 8: Well, the previous investigation had failed in so many ways.
- 24:33Speaker 8: But he was responding to me. He was responding to
- 24:35Speaker 8: the pressure I was putting on him. And I let
- 24:38Speaker 8: it slip away.
- 24:40Speaker 2: When Holman arrived for the interview with Parker, he had
- 24:44Speaker 2: a lawyer.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Did you have.
- 24:46Speaker 8: Anything to do with the death of Jennifer Harris?
- 24:48Speaker 2: No.
- 24:50Speaker 8: Jennifer's pregnancy. Did you believe she was pregnant?
- 24:57Speaker 5: No.
- 24:58Speaker 8: I didn't think she was. Did you think that she
- 25:01Speaker 8: believed she was pregnant?
- 25:02Speaker 14: No.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Remember, there was no evidence Jennifer was pregnant. And in fact,
- 25:08Speaker 2: forensic experts in Dallas would later conclude Jennifer's missing uterus
- 25:13Speaker 2: wasn't even cut out by the killer. Instead, her uterus
- 25:17Speaker 2: and other body parts were destroyed by turtles and fish
- 25:21Speaker 2: in the river. But the rumors persisted, and they had
- 25:26Speaker 2: plenty of company in Bonham. A year after Jennifer's murder,
- 25:31Speaker 2: this man found himself In the center of the storm.
- 25:35Speaker 9: They were saying that I had been arrested for this murder.
- 25:39Speaker 2: I mean, you hear this, and what's your reaction?
- 25:42Speaker 9: What are you talking about? Where did this come from?
- 25:44Speaker 9: That's crazy.
- 25:46Speaker 2: Crazy, because Miles Porter was also the district attorney at
- 25:50Speaker 2: the time, overseeing the case. For the record, did you
- 25:55Speaker 2: know Jennifer Harris?
- 25:56Speaker 14: No.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Had you ever met Jennifer Harris?
- 25:58Speaker 14: No.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Did you kill Jennifer Harris?
- 26:00Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Porter says locals cooked up the story because they had
- 26:05Speaker 2: a grudge against him over an unrelated case he tried.
- 26:09Speaker 5: Did this cost you your job?
- 26:11Speaker 9: Yeah, no doubt.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Miles Porter blames losing his re-election on the Jennifer Harris gossip.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Now in private practice, Porter still lives with the fallout
- 26:22Speaker 2: from the unfounded allegations.
- 26:24Speaker 9: I've had, on a number of occasions, random people throughout
- 26:28Speaker 9: the county say, I can't be fair in this case because...
- 26:32Speaker 9: You're with the lawyer, and I think you killed Jennifer Harris. Crazy.
- 26:36Speaker 5: 14, 15 years later?
- 26:38Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 26:39Speaker 9: Still happens.
- 26:40Speaker 8: In the court of public opinion, he was definitely a suspect.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Meanwhile, there's no shred of evidence that he was connected
- 26:47Speaker 2: at all. None. Darrell Parker thinks he knows who's responsible.
- 26:53Speaker 8: Not Miles Porter, not James Hamilton, not a random stranger.
- 26:57Speaker 8: In my view, the evidence points directly at Rob Holman.
- 27:02Speaker 2: Filmmaker Barry Wernick agrees.
- 27:05Speaker 11: We were going to let the facts take us where
- 27:07Speaker 11: the facts took us. And where it brought us was
- 27:11Speaker 11: to one person that it had to be.
- 27:14Speaker 2: But they haven't been able to physically connect Rob Holman
- 27:17Speaker 2: to Jennifer Harris the night of her disappearance. They're both
- 27:22Speaker 2: hoping this woman can.
- 27:24Speaker 1: We need that eyewitness.
- 27:25Speaker 2: And in your view, Rhonda Fitzwater is that eyewitness? Yes.
- 27:29Speaker 14: Yes.
- 27:44Speaker 2: On this rural road in Fannin County, Texas, Rhonda Fitzwater
- 27:48Speaker 2: could hold the key to Daryl Parker and Barry Wernick's
- 27:51Speaker 2: theory that Rob Holman met up with Jennifer Harris that night.
- 27:56Speaker 2: So what do you make of this idea that somehow
- 28:00Speaker 2: you saw Jennifer Harris and Rob Holman?
- 28:02Speaker 3: I've not ever heard that until you told me that.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Rhonda has always insisted that all she saw that night
- 28:08Speaker 2: was Jennifer's parked Jeep. Did you see anybody following the Jeep?
- 28:11Speaker 6: No.
- 28:12Speaker 2: It was already parked. Did you see Jennifer Harris?
- 28:16Speaker 3: No, not at all.
- 28:19Speaker 2: But for years, Parker and Wernick have believed there is
- 28:22Speaker 2: more to Rhonda Fitzwater's story. Only she says they are
- 28:26Speaker 2: sorely mistaken. After 15 years of investigation by people closely
- 28:31Speaker 2: connected to Bonham, maybe the best thing anyone can hope
- 28:35Speaker 2: for is a fresh set of eyes.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I'm flying out to Dallas, Texas. My job is really
- 28:41Speaker 1: to look at the facts of the case, study the case.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Could the questions about a murder in Bonham be answered
- 28:48Speaker 2: by someone 1,700 miles away in Boston? Meet Joe Mora,
- 28:55Speaker 2: a private investigator and CBS News consultant. Jennifer's been dead
- 29:00Speaker 2: 15 years by the time you look at it, the file.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah.
- 29:03Speaker 2: What'd you make of that collection of.
- 29:06Speaker 4: papers.
- 29:07Speaker 1: I thought the file was very weak, meaning that the
- 29:09Speaker 1: investigation that went into it was extremely weak.
- 29:14Speaker 2: 48 hours brought Moore to Texas to take a closer
- 29:17Speaker 2: look at the Jennifer Harris case.
- 29:19Speaker 1: You've got to speak to people, and that's what I've done.
- 29:24Speaker 1: So you got a little time for me?
- 29:26Speaker 4: I do. Come on back.
- 29:28Speaker 2: His first stop, Fannin County Sheriff Mark Johnson.
- 29:31Speaker 1: I can see your frustration where, you know, you're in
- 29:33Speaker 1: the job for one One year, you've got the public,
- 29:36Speaker 1: and sure, the family still wants to know what happened
- 29:39Speaker 1: to their daughter.
- 29:40Speaker 4: There's no physical evidence. That's the problem.
- 29:44Speaker 2: In fact, today the sheriff won't call either Rob Holman
- 29:48Speaker 2: or James Hamilton suspects, even though detectives did early in
- 29:52Speaker 2: the investigations. in these documents. How come you can't call
- 29:56Speaker 2: them suspects?
- 29:57Speaker 12: You have things that lead up to them, that draw
- 29:59Speaker 12: your interest to them, that make them a person of interest,
- 30:01Speaker 12: but you don't have that connection to make them a suspect,
- 30:05Speaker 12: where you can tie some physical evidence into them.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Filmmaker Barry Wernick took Maura to the location of the
- 30:11Speaker 2: cottage privatized Parker and Holloway had come to believe was
- 30:15Speaker 2: burned to hide the evidence of Jennifer's murder.
- 30:19Speaker 11: This is the shed that burned down that night.
- 30:21Speaker 14: Yeah.
- 30:22Speaker 1: The stuffed gem with a burning shed. There's all kinds
- 30:24Speaker 1: of theories about that. Now, you just murdered somebody, but
- 30:28Speaker 1: about 200 yards away from where you're disposing the body
- 30:31Speaker 1: in the river, let's light up this shed and fire,
- 30:33Speaker 1: attract people.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Makes no sense to you.
- 30:36Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It certainly can't tie to this case, but
- 30:38Speaker 1: people are trying to make it to tie in.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Wernick also brought him to the bank of the Red River,
- 30:45Speaker 2: where he believes his sister-in-law's body was dumped.
- 30:48Speaker 1: There's nothing on the records of this case or any
- 30:52Speaker 1: eyewitnesses that will tell you that this is where her
- 30:54Speaker 1: body was disposed.
- 30:55Speaker 10: Right.
- 30:56Speaker 1: So we're just here basically guessing.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Mora sat down with the private eyes who had been
- 31:03Speaker 2: working the case for nearly a decade.
- 31:06Speaker 7: To me, I think it boils down to who had
- 31:09Speaker 7: the most to lose by killing her or not killing her.
- 31:13Speaker 7: 18 years of child support?
- 31:15Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Maybe not.
- 31:17Speaker 4: She told me that she was pregnant.
- 31:20Speaker 8: Well, I don't think that we need to speculate about
- 31:22Speaker 8: Rob Holman's motive because he made it clear that she
- 31:26Speaker 8: was applying pressure to him.
- 31:27Speaker 2: And there could be no more intense pressure than I'm
- 31:32Speaker 2: about to have a baby and you're the father.
- 31:35Speaker 1: That's right. You have to consider it. However, he disbelieves her.
- 31:41Speaker 1: And he admits that in the interviews. Yeah, she said it,
- 31:43Speaker 1: but I don't believe it. I don't think she is pregnant.
- 31:45Speaker 8: Did you believe she was pregnant?
- 31:46Speaker 14: No.
- 31:47Speaker 4: I didn't think she was.
- 31:49Speaker 2: For his part, Morrow was surprised authorities seemed to quickly
- 31:52Speaker 2: disregard James Hamilton, the ex-boyfriend who wanted to marry Jennifer
- 31:57Speaker 2: before she left him when their business failed.
- 32:00Speaker 1: She covered all the finances for the business. She's the
- 32:03Speaker 1: one that put her name on the loans.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Jennifer's father, Jerry, made notes that two months after Jennifer's death,
- 32:10Speaker 2: Hamilton called him asking about her life insurance policy.
- 32:14Speaker 1: And in my experience, money... insurances, all that stuff is
- 32:19Speaker 1: a big deal. Money creates a lot of motive for
- 32:22Speaker 1: a lot of people.
- 32:24Speaker 2: What's more, he believes investigators bought Hamilton's alibi that he
- 32:29Speaker 2: was with a friend at that McDonald's more than 50
- 32:31Speaker 2: miles away. without thoroughly vetting it.
- 32:34Speaker 1: And I'm not so thrilled about the checking they did
- 32:37Speaker 1: on that alibi. The one thing is you go check
- 32:39Speaker 1: with the alibis, and the next thing you look at,
- 32:42Speaker 1: are these alibis lying to me? So you got to
- 32:44Speaker 1: go check that out. That was never done. Why?
- 32:47Speaker 2: To Joe Mora, the investigation was flawed from the outset
- 32:51Speaker 2: and had authorities approached it differently, they may have gotten
- 32:55Speaker 2: more from their interviews.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Here's what bothers me about this situation. It's a missing person.
- 33:01Speaker 1: They're calling people and talking to people about a missing person,
- 33:04Speaker 1: and the first thing they do is they read you
- 33:05Speaker 1: a Miranda warning. Now, that is unheard of.
- 33:11Speaker 2: You're saying that, sure, Rob said, I don't have an alibi,
- 33:14Speaker 2: and that might be incriminating.
- 33:15Speaker 1: That was after he already signed the Miranda warning. So
- 33:18Speaker 1: he's already nervous, and he's already saying, oh, I'm being charged. God,
- 33:21Speaker 1: I don't have an alibi. Of course he was nervous.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Most people would be.
- 33:25Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the men who've
- 33:27Speaker 2: been working this case for years see it very differently.
- 33:32Speaker 2: than the man with the fresh set of eyes.
- 33:34Speaker 8: Circumstantially, there is a lot of evidence in the case.
- 33:38Speaker 8: It is all circumstantial.
- 33:39Speaker 1: But Daryl, I think me and you are a little
- 33:41Speaker 1: confused in reference to circumstantial. I'm saying to you, and
- 33:45Speaker 1: I submit to you, that there's very little circumstantial.
- 33:47Speaker 4: Evidence, okay?
- 33:49Speaker 8: We'll have to agree to disagree.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Well, because I'm asking you to give me the facts
- 33:53Speaker 1: on what your circumstantial evidence is, and it's based on theory.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Theory ain't going to cut it.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Like Daryl Parker's theory about Rhonda Fitzwater knowing more.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Everybody's putting all the weight on this woman, and she
- 34:07Speaker 1: has nothing to offer to the case. Only that, yeah,
- 34:10Speaker 1: that Jeep was there. Well, we know the Jeep was there.
- 34:12Speaker 2: But what Joe Mora does find interesting in the case
- 34:15Speaker 2: file is one of the least examined parts of the story.
- 34:20Speaker 2: One year after Jennifer's murder, this woman, Deborah Lambert, who
- 34:25Speaker 2: had seen a news report about the unsolved case, told
- 34:29Speaker 2: detectives she saw something when she was driving across the
- 34:33Speaker 2: Red River Bridge on Mother's Day.
- 34:35Speaker 14: There was three guys out there and a girl. Two
- 34:39Speaker 14: guys had the girl by her elbows, and it was
- 34:43Speaker 14: like she was trying to get away from him, and
- 34:46Speaker 14: they were restraining her.
- 34:47Speaker 2: The girl she says she saw... had reddish-brown hair.
- 34:52Speaker 14: I made eye contact with her, and she was scared, terrified,
- 34:57Speaker 14: look on her face. My mom seen her, too, and
- 35:01Speaker 14: she said, that girl's supposed to get raped and killed.
- 35:04Speaker 2: But Lambert never called police back then. She said she
- 35:08Speaker 2: was too afraid to get involved. What's more, her story
- 35:13Speaker 2: didn't fit with the investigator's timeline. She put Jennifer near
- 35:17Speaker 2: the bridge at 5 o'clock p.m. But detectives believe Jennifer
- 35:22Speaker 2: left her friend Christy's house around 8 p.m. Deborah Lambert
- 35:26Speaker 2: saying what she saw, she saw at 5 o'clock, that's
- 35:30Speaker 2: not a deal-breaker for you?
- 35:32Speaker 1: Absolutely not. In the real world, people are not looking
- 35:35Speaker 1: at their watches and clocks all the time. She may
- 35:37Speaker 1: be wrong on her time and not wrong on what
- 35:40Speaker 1: she witnessed.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Could Deborah Lambert hold the answer to who killed Jennifer Harris?
- 36:00Speaker 2: A year and a half after Jennifer's murder, the Texas
- 36:03Speaker 2: Rangers launched their own investigation into the case. They re-interviewed
- 36:09Speaker 2: Deborah Lambert.
- 36:10Speaker 1: And the story was the same. She was very detailed. Redhead.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Three guys. Two were wearing jeans. One was wearing shorts.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Lambert was asked to look at a photo lineup to
- 36:21Speaker 2: see if she recognized any of the men the woman
- 36:24Speaker 2: was with. She did. She was very clear that one
- 36:28Speaker 2: of the men she saw was Rob Holman.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Maybe Mrs. Lambert is believable. Now the situation is, I
- 36:38Speaker 1: worry about how was that lineup done? How many photographs
- 36:41Speaker 1: do they show? In other words, do they have a
- 36:44Speaker 1: good old boy, Texan boy there with his baseball cap on?
- 36:49Speaker 1: And then they had three Mexican photos next to him. Okay?
- 36:53Speaker 1: Those are the things I worry about.
- 36:54Speaker 2: The way that the lineup was conducted, we don't know
- 36:58Speaker 2: anything about.
- 36:59Speaker 1: No, and that's crucial.
- 37:00Speaker 2: But Mora can't be confident because there are no details
- 37:04Speaker 2: in the case file about how the lineup was done. Still,
- 37:09Speaker 2: Mora considers Deborah Lambert a missed opportunity to potentially solve
- 37:14Speaker 2: Jennifer's murder.
- 37:15Speaker 1: There's an open lead there that I feel was enclosed. Therefore,
- 37:19Speaker 1: until that lead is closed, it's problematic to say, I'm
- 37:24Speaker 1: gonna disregard what this woman saw and I'm still gonna
- 37:26Speaker 1: focus on Rob and James.
- 37:29Speaker 2: Rob Holman, on the advice of his attorney back then,
- 37:33Speaker 2: declined to speak with the Texas Rangers. After working the
- 37:36Speaker 2: case for a year, they suspended their investigation. We wanted
- 37:41Speaker 2: to know why, but they wouldn't comment on an unsolved case.
- 37:45Speaker 2: The conclusion to their report No physical evidence, specific cause
- 37:50Speaker 2: of death, or credible witnesses link any particular person as
- 37:55Speaker 2: a suspect. No one can actually follow up with Deborah Lambert.
- 38:02Speaker 2: She and her mother have both passed away. But Alyssa
- 38:05Speaker 2: and Barry Wernick now cling to Lambert's story.
- 38:09Speaker 6: In my mind, I always just believed that she got
- 38:11Speaker 6: in the truck with Rob, and it was just the
- 38:14Speaker 6: two of them.
- 38:15Speaker 3: This changes everything. there are other people that know. There
- 38:18Speaker 3: are other people that could possibly speak up.
- 38:21Speaker 11: Now, knowing that there were two other people involved, oh, yeah,
- 38:26Speaker 11: there's renewed hope.
- 38:27Speaker 5: The problem here, I suppose, is that Deborah Lambert's dead.
- 38:32Speaker 11: She's dead, but her interview isn't.
- 38:34Speaker 1: She's alive.
- 38:35Speaker 11: You can see what she said.
- 38:40Speaker 2: Neither James Hamilton nor Rob Holman have ever been arrested
- 38:44Speaker 2: or charged with any crime related to Jennifer's murder. During
- 38:50Speaker 2: our reporting of this case, we made several attempts to
- 38:53Speaker 2: contact both men. James, if this is your number, I'm
- 38:57Speaker 2: calling to follow up on a letter I sent you recently.
- 39:00Speaker 2: We got no response.
- 39:03Speaker 11: This is Rob.
- 39:04Speaker 1: I can't take your call right now.
- 39:05Speaker 2: We sent you a letter a couple of weeks ago.
- 39:08Speaker 2: So on one of our trips to Texas, we went
- 39:10Speaker 2: to Rob Holman's home. How are you?
- 39:14Speaker 4: Mr. Holman?
- 39:15Speaker 2: Jim Axelrod with CBS News.
- 39:18Speaker 5: Will you talk to me if I turn that camera off?
- 39:21Speaker 2: Holman told us off camera he never saw Jennifer that night,
- 39:25Speaker 2: and he's been advised by his attorney not to talk
- 39:28Speaker 2: to anyone. His attorney provided this statement to 48 Hours.
- 39:32Speaker 2: Robert Holman has neither been arrested nor charged with any
- 39:36Speaker 2: criminal conduct as it relates to this investigation. This notwithstanding, Mr.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Holman has, from the inception of the investigation, been treated
- 39:45Speaker 2: by law enforcement as a suspect.
- 39:48Speaker 4: Mr.
- 39:48Speaker 2: Holman has maintained his innocence from the very beginning, and
- 39:52Speaker 2: his position has not wavered. With no resolution in sight,
- 40:02Speaker 2: filmmaker Barry Wernick has a new plan. Barry wants to
- 40:07Speaker 2: raise $ 50, 000 under the theory that reward money could shake
- 40:13Speaker 2: someone loose.
- 40:13Speaker 1: No shot. You can't put money out there in thinking
- 40:17Speaker 1: that that's going to create evidence for you.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Joe Mora said as much to the sheriff.
- 40:23Speaker 1: This isn't a cold case. This is a frozen case.
- 40:26Speaker 1: It's done.
- 40:27Speaker 4: It's over.
- 40:28Speaker 1: If you have a prosecutor whose worth is weight, he
- 40:32Speaker 1: would never bring this case to trial. He has absolutely
- 40:35Speaker 1: nothing on this case.
- 40:38Speaker 2: But Sheriff Mark Johnson is not giving up.
- 40:42Speaker 4: I want to solve the case. I want it solved,
- 40:44Speaker 4: and I want it done right.
- 40:46Speaker 2: Neither is private eye Darrell Parker.
- 40:49Speaker 8: When Mr. Harris came to the sheriff's office and he
- 40:51Speaker 8: got me involved, I told him that I would get results,
- 40:55Speaker 8: and I can't put it down. Until I'm sure that
- 41:00Speaker 8: either the person is held accountable or I can't do
- 41:03Speaker 8: anything more, I have.
- 41:05Speaker 2: To carry it. And if it takes another 15 years?
- 41:07Speaker 8: If it takes another 15 years.
- 41:10Speaker 1: The sadness is we all have kids, we all have
- 41:13Speaker 1: family members, and I have a daughter. It's devastating to
- 41:17Speaker 1: not know.
- 41:21Speaker 2: I don't know how she was killed.
- 41:22Speaker 3: I wish I did.
- 41:23Speaker 6: I want closure.
- 41:24Speaker 3: I'm going to do everything I can to bring justice
- 41:30Speaker 3: for Jennifer.
- 41:33Speaker 6: For my dad, he needs to see some justice done.
- 41:40Speaker 7: To have walked in my shoes for the last 15
- 41:42Speaker 7: and a half years hadn't been easy. We miss her
- 41:47Speaker 7: every day. We miss Jennifer not being here. I still
- 41:52Speaker 7: have high hopes that justice will prevail.
- 42:27Speaker 10: Thank you.