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- 0:05Hello, Sylvia.
- 0:06It's Memorial Day weekend and my gosh, there's so much food and tradition around the holidays and yes, celebration of our veterans over the years too.
- 0:19Well, you know, there's like three things that happen out of Memorial Day and why it kind of converges to be this like super holiday that we never really thought of except as the
- 0:29gateway to summer, right?
- 0:31But the sacrifice of our soldiers kicked this off after the Civil War.
- 0:35ah Then it soon became and over time became a holiday for observation of the passing of our loved ones, not necessarily just veterans.
- 0:46Okay.
- 0:48I think that our transition, because we've been a little banter in the beginning, a little bit sort of connection, and then we go into it.
- 0:56um But this time you just went right into it.
- 0:59So let's sort of back up a little bit and.
- 1:05If that's all right.
- 1:08Okay, because I just heard it's like, you know, it's like, it's like, started this and you're like, yeah, like, here's interesting, like, just boom.
- 1:14Let's Hey, Nancy, it's good to see you again, kind of like, or whatever.
- 1:17um Just to soften it up a little bit in the beginning.
- 1:23All right, let's one, two.
- 1:26Hello, Sylvia, happy Memorial Day weekend.
- 1:29Gosh, I love this weekend.
- 1:30It's the beginning of summer and yes, lots of food tradition, but it is the celebration of our veterans and at least memorial or memorializing our veterans, right?
- 1:41Sure, and it's a kickoff to our summer.
- 1:44Yes, such a great time, such a great time.
- 1:47School's out, time to hit the road, all kinds of reasons that we celebrate Memorial Day.
- 1:54Well, absolutely.
- 1:55And it's start of vacation time.
- 1:57But let's go back to the food traditions because there's so much that's going on during this time.
- 2:02And well, you've got a whole lot of research that you've done on Memorial Day foods that are really interesting, a lot of which I didn't know.
- 2:12Sure, sure.
- 2:13But I think we start with what it originally was.
- 2:17It was Decoration Day.
- 2:19And that was when you put flowers on the graves and you just ate a lot.
- 2:23I went to my grandmother's house and we would celebrate Decoration Day and we ate all the good stuff.
- 2:28I just never knew a whole lot about what the good stuff is that we ate, know.
- 2:33Biscuits and gravy, fried chicken, potato salad, coleslaw, all have a history with
- 2:41wartime celebrations of a sacrifice and all of those things.
- 2:46And then, you know, decorating the graves, marching up the hillside and visiting the ancestry grave sites.
- 2:53I mean, that was my tradition.
- 2:55I just never knew about all the food and what it meant.
- 2:59And when I was a kid, the parades were always big, of course, and Girl Scouts.
- 3:04I mean, you know I was a Girl Scout.
- 3:06So I was a goody two shoes, let's say.
- 3:08least, well, I made it look like I was a goody two shoes.
- 3:11But the Memorial Day parades were big in our community and we decorated the graves.
- 3:16So we'd all march down to the war memorial areas uh or statues and we placed the flowers on the graves during that time.
- 3:27and then I'll go back for hot dogs and hamburgers and everything else that happened at home.
- 3:34sure you have hot dogs, burgers, grilling out, barbecue with ties even back to the Revolutionary War.
- 3:40ah And you know, that was the only way to cook in the Revolutionary War was outside on an open fire, not on a blackstone.
- 3:48ah And corn on the cob, apple pie, as American as you can get.
- 3:54But there's a lot of foods.
- 3:56Uh-huh.
- 3:57There are foods that come up.
- 3:58ah You know, some of the some of the things that happen, for instance, if you
- 4:03if you bring wars forward, beginning with the Civil War, that was really the beginning.
- 4:09And that was when it was said to be Decoration Day.
- 4:12And it was in 1971 that was made Memorial Day.
- 4:16And by that time, it evolved into celebrating the lives of loved ones passed on in addition to wartime and just the whole idea of survival, resilience, renewal, all of those
- 4:29things.
- 4:30But some of the foods during the Civil War,
- 4:33Hard tack bread, as they called it, molar breaker, made of flour, water, and salt.
- 4:38But here was the deal.
- 4:39The foods in the Civil War, as you can imagine, and in World War I, World War II, had to be very portable.
- 4:46You had to be able to carry them for a long time.
- 4:49So something made of flour, water, and salt was simple, right?
- 4:53Johnny cakes.
- 4:54I loved the idea of Johnny cakes.
- 4:57Ho cakes.
- 4:58And you know why they were named ho cakes?
- 5:01ask me, I'm afraid.
- 5:03Okay, now two theories.
- 5:05It was all about a hoe that you hoe in the garden and the flat surface of the hoe.
- 5:13No, not the other hoe, but the flat surface was what they oftentimes cooked Johnny cakes on.
- 5:22Imagine that, that's all they had, right?
- 5:24So they would stick that in the fire.
- 5:26So that was how they became known as hoe cakes.
- 5:29But they're also known as
- 5:31journey cakes because they would go on long journeys with the soldiers, right?
- 5:36They didn't have the luxury of stopping along the way and cooking something new.
- 5:40uh And then you had, uh you know, the Johnny cakes were also a mispronunciation of Shawnee cakes because the Indian tribe Shawnees, yeah, so anyway, there you go, down a rabbit
- 5:54hole.
- 5:55I want to go take a quick snap back because my dad talked about the heart attack in World War II.
- 6:02And I guess they ate it when they were out in the field or on ships.
- 6:07He was in the Navy.
- 6:08But I do remember him talking about heart attacks.
- 6:11So that's kind of interesting.
- 6:12But I can't imagine that they would provide much nutrition.
- 6:15for our soldiers.
- 6:16Flour, water, and salt?
- 6:18Doesn't seem very good, does it?
- 6:19not sure they worried a lot about that.
- 6:21was the ease.
- 6:23mean, you know, the first celebration, the celebration at Arlington, the first celebration of this holiday was right after in 1868 in Arlington Cemetery, right after the Civil War,
- 6:371868.
- 6:38And they celebrated and they put flowers on 20,000 graves.
- 6:44And that's why Civil War is such a pivotal time
- 6:48in US history because so much happened there.
- 6:51But on a lighter note though, uh here's a quick recipe for a Johnny cake.
- 6:58right, plain cornmeal, cornmeal flour if you want it, baking powder, salt, and eggs as a binder.
- 7:09And Johnny cakes, again, were an easy thing to put together in the celebration of corn.
- 7:16because corn has figured so much into all of the things that we do with food, right?
- 7:22Right.
- 7:23So I've got a question for you.
- 7:26I have tried to make cornbread in the past over the years, and you get the little like boxes that you get in the store and it says, you know, cornbread, but it doesn't seem to
- 7:35be that the cornmeal is really that rich sort of granular coarse kind of cornmeal.
- 7:44It's got a lot of flour in it.
- 7:45Have you seen that down where you are in the South?
- 7:49It all depends.
- 7:51You know, a lot of people really put a lot of flour into it too, because it stretches out.
- 7:58And it's harder to cook cornmeal with just pure cornmeal because it is so granular.
- 8:04I prefer it, and that means your cornbread falls apart a lot easier.
- 8:08I think flour is more fine and more of a binder with the eggs and such.
- 8:14But you can do it either way, like...
- 8:16Johnny cakes are really thin things, know, they're like pancakes almost.
- 8:19didn't know that.
- 8:20Okay, sort of like a corn muffin top where you take the top off.
- 8:24Hmm.
- 8:24So I'm learning something about corn muffins and Johnny cakes.
- 8:28Oh, yummy fried, you know, in bacon grease.
- 8:33I don't know.
- 8:34I don't know if the soldiers had that luxury.
- 8:36I don't know if they had that luxury.
- 8:39But um so anyway, that was Civil War and World War One.
- 8:44We came forward right a little bit.
- 8:47And we ought to mention pork and beans.
- 8:50Right.
- 8:51not, we're not talking franken beans.
- 8:53We're talking pork and beans.
- 8:54It's very different.
- 8:56Yeah, yeah, pork and beans.
- 9:00I think you did a little bit of research on pork and beans, didn't you?
- 9:03They were also something that was pretty well known and beans were something you could take with you ah on, you know, in a war time.
- 9:12dry-brained beans were easy to take versus what we know in sort of the Campbell's or whatever it is, the specialty beans that you get in the can.
- 9:21So you didn't do that.
- 9:23can't imagine that they would.
- 9:24Well, first of all, they probably didn't can them.
- 9:26They jarred them.
- 9:27And I can't imagine taking those into the field, into the battlefield with a chef.
- 9:33But in any case, you have the dry beans, right?
- 9:35All you need is add water and let them soak for a while and cook them up.
- 9:39Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was simple.
- 9:41World War I, I like this, the whole idea of stews, where you could just put anything in a stew.
- 9:47And one of the most popular things was a bonzo, bonza, zoo, B-O-N-Z-A stew.
- 9:56It was a catchall stew.
- 9:57And I think as we look around, Nancy, stews were popular during times, particularly in times where you had to stretch food out.
- 10:06and you had to cook it in an open pot.
- 10:10know, bonza is an Australian slang term for excellent.
- 10:16It was an excellent stew.
- 10:18Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:20for excellence, but the Australians are on the other side of the world, so they do things a little upside down here from the States.
- 10:26Sorry if you're from Australia, I didn't mean that to be, you know, well, we'll just let it go there before I dig a deeper hole into the fire pit.
- 10:36suspect that stews in many different cultures are called many different things, but they all were kind of the same thing born of an era where you had to stretch meat particularly,
- 10:48like in Kentucky, a delicacy now at the racetrack is like at the Derby and stuff is burgoo, burgoo.
- 10:59And it is everything.
- 11:02Well, today it is, you know, today it's kind of one kind of meat.
- 11:06But at one time, the old saying went that if you had an open pot cooking burgoo under a tree and a snake fell out of a limb and fell into the burgoo, it would just make it even
- 11:18tastier.
- 11:19So there you go.
- 11:20That's...
- 11:22There you go.
- 11:23And then...
- 11:25Now, are you ready?
- 11:28Yeah.
- 11:30Now, would you like to go back a little bit to more traditional foods before we move on?
- 11:34Because let's talk a little bit about watermelon and things like that that summer brings on.
- 11:40Right?
- 11:42So watermelon, watermelon's kind of interesting, right?
- 11:45Did you know that watermelon, well, I think we all do that watermelon sparks the, or is sort of this, I showed the sweetness in the beginning of the summer season for us.
- 11:56And it was actually a tradition that you ate watermelon during the civil war times because it was a sweet treat that could be served to a large population or large breaded groups.
- 12:06So can you imagine, well, we did talk about this where people would go and watch the battlefields and picnic and see all the events that are going on.
- 12:16it's not, I don't know.
- 12:18This is pretty gruesome.
- 12:19This is what I when you think about all the people that would go and watch the slaughtering that were going on in the battlefields, I can't imagine that's entertainment.
- 12:28But you know, we do watch horror shows today on television.
- 12:31It's just, anyway, but back to watermelon.
- 12:35Do you know that we eat 800 million pounds of watermelon every Memorial Day weekend?
- 12:41Can you imagine the size of that watermelon?
- 12:43that's just me.
- 12:46What do the rest of the people eat?
- 12:50Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have never tasted burger.
- 12:56Not my thing, not my thing.
- 12:59But we also have unofficial Burger Day.
- 13:02That's a big deal.
- 13:03And hot dogs, all of those things and.
- 13:06Yeah.
- 13:07Well, wait a second.
- 13:08I've got another statistic.
- 13:10800 hot dogs are consumed per second on Memorial Day here in the States.
- 13:16I wonder if that includes the Nathan's hot dog eating contest, because most of them are probably consumed there.
- 13:21Woo.
- 13:21um And it's the birth of barbecue season.
- 13:25And that makes sense.
- 13:26Because it's summer grilling season.
- 13:28But, you know, what 75 % of Americans fire up their grills on the weekend, one of the biggest barbecue days and and it also goes back to the war times where you cooked
- 13:39outdoors.
- 13:40So I have a grill story.
- 13:42Can I share real quickly?
- 13:44Well, one Memorial Day weekend, we had some friends over and we hadn't opened our grill all winter long.
- 13:51Now in the winter time up north, there's snow and there's ice and it all gets piled up on the grill and you kind of leave it alone.
- 13:58there's that grill becomes a nice little house or place for critters to hide.
- 14:05So we opened up the grill, Bob's getting ready to throw some fire sticks in there and do whatever he needs to do.
- 14:10And in there was a nest of baby mice in our grill.
- 14:15And Bob's like, well, just light the fire.
- 14:17like, was like, no, don't light the fire.
- 14:20No, he didn't.
- 14:21He didn't put the mice on fire, but it was kind of an interesting discovery.
- 14:26And at least the fire, once we got them out, did sort of clean out that mess that they left.
- 14:32You don't expect to see a bunch of baby mice staring up at you when you're ready to open up your grill on Memorial Day weekend.
- 14:38you know, those little critters are pretty interesting.
- 14:40I've had a couple of them staring up at me one day in the dog food.
- 14:46Anyway, but that's another story.
- 14:47That's another story, not about Memorial Day, but it certainly was disgusting.
- 14:53So there you go.
- 14:57My story, that's right.
- 14:59They're hungry like everybody else, right?
- 15:01um Well, you've got potato salad.
- 15:05It was popularized in America by German immigrants.
- 15:09it's interesting, soldiers returning from both World Wars brought home a love of the various potato dishes and making potato salad.
- 15:18And you always hear about that, kind of a German influence.
- 15:22And so you do that, and coleslaw, and pies, specifically apple pie, of course.
- 15:29But we'll talk more about apple pies.
- 15:32on the 4th of July, because we have pie contests and all those things going on.
- 15:35Well, we haven't gotten there yet, right?
- 15:37We're still just cooking outdoors and getting ready to get out of town.
- 15:40But one of the places, yeah, I'll go ahead.
- 15:43a break.
- 15:44Let's take a break and we'll come back and we'll finish up with a whole lot more.
- 15:49Well, we'll call them Memorial Day food stories as well as little, well, as well as traditions that are important, not only to our heads, but our hearts, but our stomachs
- 15:58too.
- 15:59So hang tight, we'll be right back.
- 16:17Well, we've got a lot more to cover Sylvia, don't we, on this whole Memorial Day tradition and food and stories and well, it's all it's all delicious and yummy, I think.
- 16:27But there's also a reason for everything as well behind it, which is kind of interesting.
- 16:33Yeah, and of course, I kind of went down a rabbit hole with spam, because I've always, guess one of the reasons spam is interesting to me is that my father, who is a veteran of
- 16:45World War Two, and a veteran of an extremely horrific depression era, very poor, and he loved spam.
- 16:57And I remember those spam cans, I mean, you think about it, they kind of, you know, they
- 17:02They're making a comeback.
- 17:03I've seen ads about spam.
- 17:05But here's what happened for spam.
- 17:08During World War II, and the reason this is important is that people actually, Nancy, grill spam on Memorial Day.
- 17:17I don't, and I never did.
- 17:19But apparently, spam burgers, for those who kind of remember back, and maybe we'll start a trend here, right?
- 17:28because in World War II, this is all about the sacrifice that people did.
- 17:32So spam was a very common, the US Army spent, armed services spent like $150 million, and at that time, that was probably a huge amount of money on spam because it was very
- 17:45portable.
- 17:47It was made up of pork shoulder, which was considered by many to be a waste product, and ham blend, potato starch as a binder, salt, and sodium nitrate.
- 17:57Well, that sounds so nutritious, right?
- 18:00man.
- 18:00And so it kept going, it kept gaining in popularity and ah it was manufactured, it just made Hormel into an overnight success, right?
- 18:10In 1937, it was marketed as a convenience food and that was again, kind of the beginning of all of that.
- 18:18ah But this is, I love this, how it was named, because today's spam, most people know it as that unwanted message.
- 18:26that you have a spam folder, right?
- 18:30Uh-huh.
- 18:31So there was a contest that the Hormel's held, and it was a name contest.
- 18:37Name this particular product.
- 18:40they, win $100, which again, was a big deal back then, right?
- 18:47And so, you won $100, and somebody said the word spam, which was a meaningless word.
- 18:54And,
- 18:55the rest is history, right?
- 18:57But the soldiers grew tired of it.
- 19:03They said the soldiers grew tired of it.
- 19:05Yeah.
- 19:06It was ham that didn't pass the physical, meatballs without basic training, but became a symbol of American ingenuity and resilience.
- 19:16So there, more than you ever wanted to know about spam.
- 19:23And World War II.
- 19:25it's more like how much crud can you, oh I'll be polite, how much crud can you stick in a can and sell it under a name that people like?
- 19:33I don't know, but I'm still not a fan of Spam.
- 19:36can do with that.
- 19:37Or that ham that's like in the fake shape of a ham.
- 19:40It's kind of like a triangle thing.
- 19:42My mom used to do that and make it look like a fake ham, but it's okay.
- 19:49So you've got some other things as well besides spam.
- 19:52I mean, we're talking about really the traditions and some of the hardships that took place over the war times that impacted our families over the generations.
- 20:03And we don't see that as much today, although, well, with the price of eggs right now, maybe I guess some people are talking about hardships and well, a lot of people are
- 20:11talking about food, food related hardships.
- 20:13And that's, that's pretty sad, but there are also some interesting things that took place on how
- 20:19we took care of our soldiers related to food.
- 20:23And you've got one about kind of, well, it's just the opposite of Rosie the Riveter.
- 20:28It's women who worked in the fields.
- 20:30Tell me about that one, because I thought that was a fascinating story.
- 20:33Yeah, uh World War II not only was known for spam, but it was known for the Victory Gardens and that's significant.
- 20:41Memorial Day is usually at least up north and I'm sure in your neck of the woods as well, is when we really start these gardens going.
- 20:49Well, Victory Gardens sprung up all over.
- 20:52was a movement to supplement families during sacrifice and rationing.
- 20:58There was rationing during World War II.
- 21:00I didn't know that or I'd forgotten it or something.
- 21:03and you got stamps to spend on coffee and basic things and all of that.
- 21:12And the Women's Land Army of America was established in 1917 to train women as ag workers to take the jobs men had previously held.
- 21:22We're now off to war, right?
- 21:23So it started in World War I.
- 21:25And I love this.
- 21:27I love this.
- 21:27I want to be one of these.
- 21:30A farmerette, that's what they were known as.
- 21:33Farmerettes.
- 21:33That sounds like a review uh in a nightclub, right?
- 21:38The Farmerettes.
- 21:41Farmerettes.
- 21:42can just, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 21:44I can see the high kicking, you know, all of that.
- 21:47uh And even Barnard College, upscale college trained middle to upper class women to participate.
- 21:54Don't you love that though?
- 21:55The Farmerettes.
- 21:56I think digging in the dirt is good for all of us on many ways and just being able to see vegetables grow in your backyard or your garden is, you know, it's so rewarding.
- 22:06We've just put in some raised garden beds in our backyard.
- 22:10So we're getting ready to plant and see what that's going to do.
- 22:14Like here in zone nine, we're in zone nine, we're up north, we're in a totally different zone.
- 22:18So it's a little experimentation of hopefully what will work and what won't work.
- 22:23But we tried that at one point when we first got down here and planted cabbage.
- 22:29Well, the size of these cabbage, my god, it was like cabbage on steroids.
- 22:32So I guess if we plant cabbage, we'll be making Memorial Day coleslaw and see what happens.
- 22:38But next, you never know.
- 22:42What?
- 22:43cabbage sauerkraut.
- 22:45It was called Liberty Cabbage in World War I.
- 22:48So there you go.
- 22:49There's something to make, red cabbage sauerkraut.
- 22:52uh
- 22:54right?
- 22:54And a little red and green cabbage to make it even more interesting.
- 22:59You know, people don't know too that um if you don't have time for a garden and you don't have the kind of land you can do, you can do an herb garden inside.
- 23:08And people don't even think about that, you know, tiny little things.
- 23:13grow in plain water.
- 23:14So you can stick them in a little glass and see what happens and watch the sprouts or the roots grow at the bottom.
- 23:20It's a great way to uh actually educate kids on how things grow when you can see the roots growing in a glass of water, as opposed to just having them be invisible underneath the
- 23:30dirt or the earth.
- 23:32Yeah, yeah, we would grow our own uh mint, mint juleps, think mint juleps, at our restaurant.
- 23:41And the mint would grow and it was so wonderful.
- 23:43Just take a sprig of that mint and just sniff it.
- 23:47I mean, it was so wonderful and delicious.
- 23:51I mean, wonderful.
- 23:52types of mint, but it is very invasive.
- 23:54So if you're going to grow it in your backyard, you've never done it.
- 23:57I recommend you grow it in a pot so it doesn't take over your entire garden, but it is delicious.
- 24:04Regular mint to spearmint to peppermint.
- 24:06It's amazing the different flavors that you can get out of that one.
- 24:10That type of plant that is so good and so, so delicious, but it's finger, it's finger looking good as they say, right?
- 24:19Mm-hmm.
- 24:20Mm-hmm.
- 24:21Hey, hey, and we should also, without ending without this factoid, is beer.
- 24:28People love their beer, and they love it on Memorial Day.
- 24:33And 60 million cases of beer?
- 24:37Wow.
- 24:37uh Ranks is one of the biggest beer holidays, second only to Independence Day, which is the height of summer, right?
- 24:45Absolutely.
- 24:45There's nothing like a cold beer on a hot day, I have to tell you.
- 24:49And you know, there's this whole big, um this popularity that's happening in the beer industry, beyond the microbeer breweries, which a lot of the microbreweries have been
- 24:58bought up, or I'd say a lot of them, but some of more successful ones have been bought up by the big brands, which is kind of interesting.
- 25:05So your microbrewery that you loved years back actually might belong to, let's say, Anheuser-Busch or some other company that you wouldn't necessarily know about.
- 25:14But the microbreweries in the backyards are doing some really delicious and interesting things.
- 25:19And we have a lot of them down here in Florida.
- 25:22But the other thing that I find fascinating is the proliferation of non-alcoholic beers, which have gotten really good.
- 25:30So if you're not into necessarily drinking a beer or better yet, if you're partying at somebody else's house and you don't want to drink and drive, which I highly recommend you
- 25:41don't do, is
- 25:42Try out some of the non-alcoholic beers.
- 25:44They're really delicious.
- 25:46And you can still be part of the party and enjoy yourself.
- 25:49It always tastes good.
- 25:50Cold beer on a hot day.
- 25:52Just love it.
- 25:52And you know, and back to Memorial Day.
- 25:54Yeah, back to Memorial Day.
- 25:57You know, strangely enough, as a child, I was raised in Ohio.
- 26:01My parents were expats and we went to Ohio for opportunity.
- 26:05And it was the greatest holiday ever.
- 26:09That is even better than Christmas.
- 26:11I don't even remember much about my childhood, but I just remember Memorial Day.
- 26:17And surrounded by good food, good people.
- 26:21putting together flower arrangements, homemade stuff, you know, and uh I just remember crossing the Ohio River and going into Kentucky and anticipating what was then known as
- 26:33Decoration Day, but it could have been called Eating Day too, because my grandmother was a great cook.
- 26:40She had all the goodies there, know, homemade grape juice.
- 26:44I don't know where she got the grapes.
- 26:46I hear they grow wild.
- 26:48But that was it.
- 26:51Well, Memorial Day is a great day for so many people, but it's also a day of remembrance and a day of sorrow of our but it's also a day remembrance and day of sorrow and
- 27:03remembering our fallen heroes and even those that have passed on and didn't fall in wartime.
- 27:10If you are close to any kind of let's say uh if you were close to any of the veteran or if you're close to any of the veteran or memorial.
- 27:21I'm going say this again.
- 27:23If you are close to any of the veterans cemeteries, I highly recommend that you go take a walk and see what they do.
- 27:31It's absolutely spectacular.
- 27:33My mom and dad are both buried in Bushnell Memorial or Veterans Memorial Cemetery.
- 27:39And the amount of flags that are flying there is breathtaking on Memorial Day.
- 27:44So perhaps take a picnic and your lunch and maybe a red, white and blue dessert.
- 27:50and celebrate Memorial Day with friends, family, and a tribute and a hats off to our veterans.
- 27:56I think that's it, Vesylvia.
- 28:00I agree.
- 28:01It's a great holiday.
- 28:02Great time for both celebrating and also remembering.
- 28:07Remembering what's important that we remember.
- 28:11Remembrance it's important both to our heads to our hearts and yes to our stomachs and traditions Take care.
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