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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian read
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  podcast. Today's guests.
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  Has quite the resume. Here's a podcaster, a musician,
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  a bartender, a gamer, a hairdresser, a traveler around
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  the world. He does many different Monica's.
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  His name is Ainsley BM, or Ainsley Blakely May welcome to
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  the show. How is it going my friend?
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  Pretty good. You made me sound like, I'm good
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  at all those things. They said, it's only just tried
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  loads of stuff and failed. All the time.
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  Keeps moving on. I mean, I like to fall somewhere
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  in the middle there. First of all, that's just life,
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  you know, you got to keep trying and secondly, I'm sure you're
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  being very modest my friend that sometimes some people like that.
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  That's something I've discovered about myself as well as that.
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  Like, I'm one of those people that doesn't like to just do one
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  thing and I've noticed that when I start listing these things to
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  people things I do things. I'm interested in people, most
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  people get, get a bit shocked. They're like, oh okay.
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  And you're like, well, yeah, you know, like you like that and
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  they're like, no I just do this one thing or you know, I am this
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  and it's a lot of people's careers to find them and I don't
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  personally get I understand but I don't personally get that.
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  I just I think there's some of us are just one tracked with one
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  particular thing some of us like many things you know.
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  It's always a childhood question.
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  You get this like so would you want to be when you grow up?
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  And it's like why do I have to choose now?
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  And I gotta you have ages to choose and then you get to like
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  1929. Okay so what do you really want
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  to do? And I never still didn't know
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  that and then I got offered a job as a hairdresser and I was
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  like to try it out and say yeah why not.
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  So like I just let whatever around me decide for me.
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  I maybe that's just like pushing it further back into I have to
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  decide what action do you want to do when I grow up?
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  If they even exist. Yeah, no, I completely agree
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  with you. I mean, I'm 27, Jesus turning 28
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  this year and I'm in the same boat that I do.
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  A lot of things that I I know. I have a better idea of what I
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  want to do now, but I still can't just pick one thing.
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  I feel like, okay, well, I've always been a musician.
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  So I want to do that. I love music, I love to write
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  music but I also love acting I discovered that two years ago.
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  That's something I like doing. I love doing this podcast, I
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  love creating stuff for YouTube like it's like there's all these
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  things that keep coming in and you're kind of like yeah,
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  welcome come, Welcome to my life and then you're like oh shit.
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  Well I can't focus all my attention on like all of these
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  things all the time but then your attention shifts like a lot
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  of people that I look up to who do this as well, they tend to
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  kind of go in waves like to give an example.
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  The YouTuber KSI as an example, right?
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  I've noticed that he kind of goes in shifts so like, you
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  know, he'll be focused on not on YouTube for a while and then
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  he'll kind of be sort of balancing that with music for a
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  little bit. And then maybe there be a bit
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  more of a leaning towards music for a while and then maybe back
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  to YouTube and then it's the boxing thing.
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  Like it's it's juggling but it's like juggling your focus almost
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  you know like okay I'll put a certain amount of time into this
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  and then I'll pull out and go back to this again and I think
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  that's just what it's like for us.
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  Ty, I don't know what the word would be, but people that juggle
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  a lot of things, chocolate. And yeah, but like no, like an
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  official technical word for like someone who likes has been
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  professions. I don't know, I don't know what
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  I'm saying, man, come on, it's early.
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  Yeah, I mean, it's hard for me to say like because Most people
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  just tend to find one thing. I still don't know what I want
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  to study, for example. Yeah.
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  And once, like my girlfriend's getting fucking sick of me
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  because it's like, one for like, three months.
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  So, talked extensively about one thing could be like in-depth,
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  like, I've already taken a fucking course and she's like,
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  just go to university and take the, take the study.
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  And then by the time I get to that point, I'm like I clicked
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  on I'm in something else now and it's getting to a point where I
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  trying so hard not to sound. So pretentious about things,
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  like I do, all these things is that it doesn't mean I'm good at
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  it. It's just, I I pick it up.
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  I got obsessed with it for such a long time that I know what I'm
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  talking about. And then I just move on to the
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  next thing without actually following through with like the
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  official paperwork that you need to know the stuff I think that's
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  fair as well. Like again I completely agree
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  with you. I think that like whenever you
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  do something in life like you should give it your rule at what
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  otherwise why bother doing it and yeah like you said like a
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  lot of the time you you spend a certain degree of time on
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  something. Maybe You get to the top of it,
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  maybe you just do it for a long time and then you move on.
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  But yeah, like I think if anything it's about getting the
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  most out of life as in it, you know what I mean?
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  Like, for instance, when I was abroad in Estonia and I made the
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  decision to come back to the UK, there were different decisions.
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  Why? So different reasons why I made
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  that decision? But the main thing that I
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  thought in my head was, well, I've kind of got everything that
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  I can get from this experience. You know, I've seen pretty much
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  all of the country of, you know, got the work experience that I
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  need. I've really immersed myself in
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  the culture. I've got lots of amazing
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  experiences, blah, blah, blah. I just felt like, okay now it's
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  time to move on but I could have stayed there maybe for another
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  year or something but like, you know, I mean I feel like you got
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  to kind of listen to yourself. Listen to what your heart is
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  saying, look if it's saying move on, then you move on and there's
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  some people that don't get that. They look at that and they go.
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  Oh but you had a good thing going.
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  A more like, why would you spend so much time and effort on this
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  thing? And then, you know, not see it
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  through, or whatever. You got to listen to yourself,
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  you can't listen to what everyone else is saying,
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  literally, what you just described sound like my mother,
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  it's like oh shit. Five to six years of like
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  learning music. Going to close school which he
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  paid for and then just not doing it.
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  Three years of hairdressing. Apprenticeship washing fucking
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  teacups and sweeping hair for 3 years.
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  Finally, getting a chance to doing it.
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  Just not doing it. My mom just like I could see the
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  disappointment. Every time I tell her I'm not
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  doing a thing, like she's always asking me like you still do
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  music. I'm like, not really allow me to
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  like, podcasting and hosting and stuff and she's okay and just
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  changes the conversation real quick.
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  So like I do put the time and effort into studying learning
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  something, but it doesn't mean I have to follow through.
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  Okay. Apologies for this signing a bit
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  patronizing. I'm not trying to be, I'm just
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  trying to talk from the perspective because I remember
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  what it was like being your age versus now it's amazing.
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  Like the amount of Of stuff that happens in your 20s.
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  Like I'm obviously approaching 30 now and I remember that
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  because you're like, what 20 21 right?
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  Is that right? You got that, right?
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  You know, 2600. Sorry that's a bit like.
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  Oh, okay. So you got like, Christian.
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  You tell me what this year is done for you in quarantine, what
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  do you know more than I do? I feel like all right Muppet.
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  No, never mind. Forget it.
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  Shit. That's, you know, I know where
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  you get it from me. I know he hears Nation from.
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  You've been on my old school, like Instagram, Facebook and
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  shit. I haven't been on that since I
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  was like, 23. Do you know?
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  Was I got it? No offense.
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  I got you confused with another guest and because like the last
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  thing I read because basically, you know how it is, when you're
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  doing podcasts research, you get lots of people contacting, you
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  going through all these messages.
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  And the last thing that stuck with me is 21, I just had that
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  number in my head and I for some reason attributed that to you
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  and then what I was going on to say was you know, like are
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  around that age, you don't really know what you're doing.
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  NG and you're constantly shifting from thing to thing
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  because that, that was what I was at 21.
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  But like I would say and I'm sure you can obviously being the
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  same age as me. Can we can talk about that a
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  little bit. That's fine.
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  We can talk about, I think at the end of the day, it's the
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  sort of thing that like, as you get older, you get a better
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  understanding. But like, I don't know.
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  I'm more of a Believer. If that thing of you know
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  everyone has their own kind of time time frame.
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  You know. So like maybe some people
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  blossom in their 30s 40s 20s whatever like and I think that's
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  the key in all of this maybe you know it's like even if you
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  haven't figured out what you want to do right now and maybe
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  you're you know times going on you're getting older and older
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  and you getting stressed. Like, I don't think there is any
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  real need to be because I mean if you look at like certain
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  famous people that have become really successful like like for
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  instance do Ricky Gervais comes to mind for some reason to me
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  because I don't think he actually got famous until his
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  early to mid-thirties if I believe greatly.
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  So he'd spent like a great portion of his life, you know,
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  working in offices, various other jobs before he sort of
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  gave it stammers into, right? Yeah.
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  Leslie. Yeah, but before you gave her a
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  proper stab at the entertainment industry and then obviously it
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  went from there, but You know, there's a lot of people that I
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  imagine over the years probably told him like, are, you know,
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  you should probably just stick to this and, you know, like
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  maybe you shouldn't do that because it's not working out and
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  you know, I mean like these things take time like I look at
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  what I'm doing right now and I think like realistically it's
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  not going to change overnight, it could but it's probably not
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  going to. It's just the nature of things
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  and also like I don't know. I don't think I personally fit
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  that like Ended content, create a type for instance on YouTube
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  that most people are looking for.
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  You know, I mean this is a bit more Niche and I think if you're
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  a niche Creator it's a bit more difficult to kind of to move
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  forward. And that actually leads me on to
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  my first question for you because you've got a bit of a
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  niche kind of show that you're doing.
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  Obviously I was a guest on that show hasn't actually been
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  released yet. The thing that I really like
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  about it. Okay.
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  So basically it's called the price tag pod.
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  It's essentially like a game show and it's a game show
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  podcast. Basically, and I thought this
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  was brilliant. I thought it was a real
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  throwback to those kind of like 80s 90s that game shows you'd
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  see on TVs or the time. And the one thing that stuck out
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  for me straight away was because we did the podcast just audio
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  base so I didn't even see you but your voice.
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  Really kind of fit the bill, it really sounded like like those
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  voices that you'd hear on those shows, you know like there's a
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  way to do it and I think you've kind of figured that one out and
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  I just wanted to kind of I guess.
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  Well before I asked the question, I guess my point is
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  that, you know, that's a very Niche thing.
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  And I definitely think it has an audience and it will grow, but
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  it's like much more difficult to grow with that nice kind of
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  thing. But, yeah, man, what inspired?
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  Are you to start this particular podcast and who have been your
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  favorite guest on it so far? It is funny.
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  You talked about my voice being ideal because, like, I've been
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  obsessed with, like, American stand-up comedy for the past
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  three or four years, and afford to do a Cheesy game show.
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  He needs to sound American, and I lived with a Californian for a
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  long time. When I was like, I can't fake
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  that. So, I just have to go ahead with
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  this and a lot of, because I've been speaking to a lot Americans
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  thinking, this will be fun with those guys.
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  And they're all saying, I have the voice for a game show
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  podcast and I think that's crazy.
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  I didn't think that I did say, I thought I just see what I can do
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  and make it work, and it does. But it was actually a guy called
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  Sammy Jimenez, who has a podcast called Sammy Saga.
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  I was introduced to over. It must be about a year ago.
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  Now, he has like an improv Style game show where you and someone
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  else go on and you're basically he does a game.
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  My favorite game does is called slide ride and it basically he
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  he puts together a Google Presentation and you as the
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  guests, don't know what it is, but you have to present it as if
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  you made it. So you, it will be like my My
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  hygiene routine will be the title of the thing and you have
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  to sell it to an audience and then the next slide would be.
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  I don't know. A chicken wing stuffed in some
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  guy's butt hole. And you have to try to explain
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  why that's a hygiene thing. The next slide would be like
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  Ronald McDonald. I don't know.
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  Slapping his mother, or something weird like this.
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  And you have to try really hard to come up with an improv like
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  setting and your you have to sound more convincing than your
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  other guest says like this. Basically, my first games are
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  podcast ever came across and it was like wild like seriously
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  wild and I was This is a really cool Market moving on Market,
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  but this is a really cool idea, like em em, em show.
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  And then I thought, I really do a podcast with another friend of
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  mine, Sylvester and me. And him were just putting back
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  ideas like some sort of game show.
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  And he said, I really like that. Would you do this for this
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  amount of money? And I was like, yeah, that would
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  be good but how we're going to format it.
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  And then I spent like two weeks trying to come up with a
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  situation where I can work and it doesn't really work because
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  you completely blew the system and I ended up paying you a lot
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  more money than I ever anticipated.
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  Dated paying anyone in this podcast.
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  So it really, it doesn't really like fit that, well, but I just,
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  I just have fun and the guests have fun and it's good exposure
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  for them. And for, you know, I think it's
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  a good marketing strategy for up-and-coming podcasters to be
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  on it. I hope you like hot ones and who
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  have been your favorite guests so far.
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  It's really tough. I mean you can see on your face.
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  It's you. When we say you right.
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  No, you're late. I'm genuinely curious because I
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  know that you haven't released a lot of episodes, like you're
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  sort of your recording a lot. If I remember correctly, you did
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  it like season-by-season. So for instance, like our
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  episode is going to appear a lot later in the year because of the
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  structure of how you've done it and the fact that it's like
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  based on scores and stuff like that, but I was just curious
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  like, you know, who have been your favorite people to work
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  with because I will sell it for my podcast.
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  It's a lot of the time. It's kind of I enjoy every
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  single episode but there are ones that like particularly
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  stand out. Maybe there's particular
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  chemistry there, I don't know, maybe the conversation was
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  really good, whatever, like, who stands out for you in the ones
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  that you've done so far. I'm just going to quickly
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  explain how the podcast works in the way that we do, four or two
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  episodes. It's a year that's all we're
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  doing now. So every week there's going to
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  be opposites so which means from the beginning of August all the
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  way up the beginning of April until the end of the year.
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  And then we're going to do that every year depending on how.
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  Well this goes, this is going to be every Friday.
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  There will be a new episode alternating between me and
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  another host, which is why it's taking so long to structure.
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  My favorite guests actually has been on this podcast, mr.
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  Gerron dueling. Yeah.
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  Yeah, shouts. Jaron Dylan.
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  He is really funny and really smart.
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  Yeah, that that was something that kind of blew me away
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  actually when he was on my episode and there's certain
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  people I've had on my podcast where it's kind of taught me
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  like it's not I ever underestimate people but like
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  sometimes you know when I'm pressed for like stuff to talk
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  about because a person's either not got a lot of information
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  about themselves or I don't know what you You know what I mean,
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  right? And I thought okay we'll just
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  talk about his comedy and maybe that be that right, but what he
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  gave some really great advice and you know just a very kind of
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  smart intelligent guy and yeah like just really good vibes.
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  That guy. I mean, I have to send out a
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  form, you didn't fill this out but in in the appointment, a
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  pie, basically as a form of people fill out, so I see their
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  age straight up and I thought he was like, maybe 23.
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  Mmm, I was like, oh, this is, this will be fun, like, probably
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  a lot of like, amateur comedy and shit like that.
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  And he came on you decide. This is a wealth of knowledge
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  and like understanding of things and I kind of fell.
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  I fell back in love with improv comedy because his improv style
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  is fantastic. Yeah, and Like the something
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  about the philosophy of that, the whole, the whole concept of
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  improv is based around the concept of Juneau.
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  Yes. And if you don't any improve.
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  So it's basically you get given a situation, you have to agree
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  to it and then you build on it, which is kind of how I
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  structure, like what I do all the time.
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  It's like, oh, I have this podcast equipment, let's
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  podcast. Oh, my friends of start, playing
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  D, let's see how that works. In this setting.
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  That I understand how that worked out.
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  Pretty fun. How about I tried to hire voice
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  actors. I what am I becoming voice?
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  I myself maybe I should start doing this.
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  Maybe I should go to animation and it's just kind of like
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  Snowball Effect, which is really much more like yes.
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  And which just like hanging around with more improved guys,
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  through the podcast. It's just been like really
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  helpful and like life-affirming. This is like yes keep going keep
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  going and just, you know, every kind of like re.
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  So what made me fall in love with that style of comedy and I
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  get them. I got that.
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  So What are your kind of overall goals and aspirations for this
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  show? That what are you trying to
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  achieve with this podcast or show?
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  I don't know. I don't want to label it as
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  because I don't, I feel like if you call it a podcast, it's not
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  really doing it justice because it's not a podcast, it's a show.
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  It just happens to appear in a podcast format but yeah, I will,
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  what were you trying to achieve with it the, the way that I'm
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  pushing it towards people is a bit like Sean Evans, hot ones,
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  he's that's kind of my goal because you click on On say
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  you're searching. I don't know.
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  The Undertaker who is now doing all sorts of podcasts and shows
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  and you're like, okay I want to see something with this guy.
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  Oh, he eats super hot wings, that sounds hilarious as watch
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  that anymore, just that you realize you're never and is a
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  really good host and a really good interviewer.
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  And then you're like, oh shit, Kevin Hart, did something.
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  I like Kevin hartless to that. I don't know that guy and they
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  just kind of steamrolled through the whole of the season.
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  And you get to know a lot of people, you get to know a little
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  more about him because he also dig standard reading thorough
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  interview, that's kind of the asset.
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  I want to go through is just say, sounds like, I really love
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  Christian or even his podcast always featured on this one.
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  This should be fun. And then they hear what
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  information do they know about you?
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  I'll do you like coffee super hot for example, like oh, that's
• 19:31
  an interesting fact. And then they're like, oh, let's
• 19:34
  see what other people are doing stuff.
• 19:36
  The description sounds fun, and realistically, it's more.
• 19:40
  I wanted to be more about everyone that's guest thing,
• 19:43
  more than the actual show itself.
• 19:44
  But of course if the show great success and that's fantastic
• 19:46
  too. I don't know.
• 19:49
  As I should have, it's funny, it's funny.
• 19:50
  You say that because when I appeared on your show I mean I
• 19:55
  don't want to give too much away because it we had a good time.
• 20:00
  But what I will say is that your style came off like you like you
• 20:07
  were trying to be sarcastic or like part of my language like
• 20:11
  fuck with me. So I was like okay if he's
• 20:14
  trying to do that with me I'm just going to fuck with him.
• 20:16
  I'm gonna be mr. Bad.
• 20:18
  I am gonna play bad guy and I think it made for like a much to
• 20:24
  me. So this is about to me, it felt
• 20:29
  like too timid dogs meeting and they're just a little bit like
• 20:33
  okay, I should pounce first because this guy is going to
• 20:34
  pounce and get me, you know, it in quite readable bucks, me and
• 20:40
  then people saw like these too timid dogs fighting has come
• 20:43
  like fuck. This isn't attainment like that,
• 20:44
  that's literally how it ended up.
• 20:46
  But that's that's the thing is funny that you said Said.
• 20:49
  Oh yeah. Like my show is a great way to
• 20:52
  like interview people get to know.
• 20:53
  Funny facts about people or people are going to learn about
• 20:55
  me as oh wow this guy's a dick. But what's wrong with this guy?
• 21:00
  Yeah and they were just shot man, they won't know that.
• 21:03
  I was just taking the piss but in a way I kind of like that,
• 21:07
  it's kind of funny. I don't know.
• 21:09
  Makes me laugh. That's that's the guy that I got
• 21:10
  to know the dickhead. Yeah.
• 21:13
  Yeah. I'm not actually a ticket, but I
• 21:17
  also find that when there is no video involved, people are
• 21:20
  little more true themselves, you know?
• 21:23
  Maybe. Because it is still has that and
• 21:26
  I'm an entity behind it. Maybe, I don't know.
• 21:30
  I mean I take every appearance I do.
• 21:35
  Well, I make it, I think of it as equally as important as these
• 21:39
  podcast interviews because I mean with the with the
• 21:42
  appearances, I guess what I'm trying to do is go, hey, like
• 21:46
  I'm entertaining, come check me out like that's kind of his kind
• 21:49
  of an advertisement. Essentially it's an has a free
• 21:51
  advertisement on someone's show, but at the same time, you've got
• 21:55
  to make good content and I've noticed a lot of people in our
• 22:00
  community. Don't necessarily make enough of
• 22:03
  an effort. I'm not saying everyone A lot of
• 22:06
  excellent podcasts out there that are fantastic, but there's
• 22:09
  a lot of people kind of just, you know, just just trying to
• 22:14
  get shit content out and they're not really thinking about how
• 22:17
  can I make this a good show? How can I make this
• 22:19
  entertaining? You know what I mean?
• 22:21
  And that's what you've really got to think.
• 22:23
  Think about because someone is listening to your show for maybe
• 22:27
  half an hour, 45 minutes an hour two hours, maybe, you know,
• 22:31
  whatever the case may be, so you need to make it as engaging as
• 22:35
  Painting as possible. If you're not doing that, like
• 22:38
  why the hell should someone listen to you?
• 22:40
  I mean, generally in like, I'm surprised that a lot more people
• 22:44
  don't think about this and, you know, especially especially when
• 22:50
  they're in this industry and they're trying to make
• 22:53
  themselves interesting and the sort of person that people would
• 22:58
  want to tune into every single week.
• 23:00
  You know? I mean, like you've got to be,
• 23:02
  you've got to be consistent and you've got a Actually provide
• 23:07
  something of value and I don't know, like, I'm I think there's
• 23:12
  a lot of people in our industry. They could, they could do a lot
• 23:14
  better with this. I mean, it's heavily saturated
• 23:17
  and that makes it very difficult to find genuinely good stuff.
• 23:22
  And it's funny like, There's a lot of people in our industry.
• 23:27
  I've noticed that are pretty annoying when it comes to sorry.
• 23:31
  I know this is a little bit of a tangent but I just, I don't
• 23:34
  know. It bothers me, sometimes these
• 23:36
  things like people be like, hey hey, come check out my podcast,
• 23:40
  come check out this thing. I'm doing its great blah blah
• 23:42
  blah and then I listened to it and it's just like one or two
• 23:46
  people just talking irreverent, bullshit with no structure, no
• 23:51
  format nothing. And it's like Right?
• 23:54
  And that's the thing went right down the Kool-Aid man.
• 23:57
  Yeah I mean look time time is a valuable thing.
• 24:01
  It's very, we don't get it back Jin and I mean, and nothing
• 24:05
  infuriates people more than when you waste their time.
• 24:08
  I mean, and like bring it back to you.
• 24:10
  Like, that's one of the things I like about your podcast is that
• 24:13
  you've got a very clear format and it's something that people
• 24:17
  can kind of Get on board with, you know, like every episode
• 24:22
  might be different. As far as that the guest is
• 24:24
  concerned and maybe the vibe and stuff but the structure will
• 24:26
  always be the same. So it'd be like our cool.
• 24:28
  Here comes like this. Bit are cool.
• 24:30
  Here Comes, you don't know me. And it's something that people
• 24:31
  can like follow and that's the same thing.
• 24:34
  I try to achieve with my podcast, you know what I mean?
• 24:36
  Like yeah, there's going to be discussion, there's going to be
• 24:38
  tangent but you know, I'm going to interview my guest as much as
• 24:41
  I can. And find out stuff.
• 24:45
  And speaking of which, what have you learned so far about
• 24:50
  podcasting and what have been the main challenges in terms of
• 24:54
  the overall process? So if you just saying, there's a
• 25:01
  lot of people out there that are watering down the Kool-Aid.
• 25:03
  On the my kind of said that but you know, I'm just gonna shit on
• 25:06
  myself because right at the beginning.
• 25:09
  So I started a podcast nearly three years ago with my best
• 25:12
  friend. Okay.
• 25:13
  And it was literally once a month, 15 minutes.
• 25:18
  Oh my god. Well because it was my first
• 25:24
  It's learning how to like edit audio and I really thought the
• 25:26
  way to edit audio is to make sure that all the waves are just
• 25:29
  exactly the same up and down. So I went through every
• 25:32
  millisecond to get it exactly the same.
• 25:34
  So the first like three or four episodes, which took me by the
• 25:36
  way a month, maybe three weeks to edit these things, like two
• 25:40
  or three weeks to edit down 50 minutes because I wanted to get
• 25:42
  that perfect you know. So that was why I started my
• 25:45
  editing style and we listen to it.
• 25:46
  Now it's just like, what is this?
• 25:49
  This is a robotic and gross and just horribly. non-compressed
• 25:52
  and nonsensical, so Start off like that.
• 25:59
  And it was just shit and I had no idea and I'm not social media
• 26:02
  guy. So we weren't selling it at all.
• 26:04
  And then we started having some guests on my old Nike.
• 26:07
  My editing got much better and now that I'm doing like, they
• 26:10
  don't want to do my Dungeons and Dragons podcast and now I'm
• 26:13
  doing this one. So now this is like, okay, this
• 26:16
  was all my practice stuff and now I have what is essentially
• 26:20
  Two Old Dogs so that if I should put them down or like Rebrand
• 26:23
  them, you know, like should I should I stop these, like, old
• 26:26
  shity podcast that I have I can better code.
• 26:32
  Move it has hit. So bartending is out the window.
• 26:34
  So we can talk about that anymore and it's like, they also
• 26:37
  have a lot of copyright infringement, in one of them,
• 26:39
  which I can't go through and change.
• 26:40
  So it's like now I have a lot of shit going on.
• 26:43
  It's like what do I do? Okay.
• 26:45
  And that's kind of what led me up to this one.
• 26:47
  He mentioned a lot there, so because I've got three different
• 26:51
  podcasts here. This did that you do.
• 26:55
  So is the one that you used to do called the reject and serve
• 26:58
  podcast. Is that correct?
• 26:59
  Still two. Still doing it.
• 27:00
  Are you still doing it? Okay.
• 27:01
  So what so so actually you've done for podcasts then it's just
• 27:06
  one that you used to do that, you don't do anymore but you've
• 27:09
  got three active podcast so that's No, I didn't know I was I
• 27:14
  know it's only been three. I think What you have written
• 27:17
  down. I'm a little bit confused
• 27:19
  because you said that there was a podcast that you started and
• 27:22
  it was awful in the beginning and then you stopped doing it.
• 27:24
  The one that you would just talking about where you did it
• 27:27
  for me. I was still doing it, no 15
• 27:29
  minutes every month is the runtime.
• 27:32
  So which one is that? That's rejecting serve, right?
• 27:35
  Okay. That's my Beginnings up until
• 27:37
  now. Excellent.
• 27:39
  Okay. Okay.
• 27:40
  Well, let's do this. But if it's getting tougher and
• 27:42
  tougher because covid, sitting and like, we are bartenders, I
• 27:46
  see. So, the podcast was
• 27:49
  predominantly about bartending. Is that correct?
• 27:51
  It was basically to grumpy bartenders that was saying.
• 27:55
  You'll never guess what fuck with came to my bar on the
• 27:57
  weekend. That, that was the concept,
• 27:59
  okay? Okay.
• 28:00
  That sounds like a great concept for a podcast.
• 28:04
  Actually, it's fun. The fun fact.
• 28:07
  I actually Really used to be a bartender at one point for about
• 28:11
  a year year and a half. Yeah, you do have to deal with a
• 28:17
  lot of shit and that's an interesting job, I think,
• 28:20
  because it's, you know, one thing that I found very
• 28:23
  interesting as well because I worked at a hotel for about
• 28:26
  close to two years and I started being a bartender about six
• 28:30
  months in, you know, where they just Crush train you everywhere,
• 28:32
  right? And then they realized, I was,
• 28:36
  okay, and then, okay, and they just basically mostly gave me
• 28:39
  bar shift, which I was really happy with, but I noticed
• 28:42
  there's a distinct difference in the level of Of respect the
• 28:46
  customer gives you if you're a waiter versus.
• 28:49
  If you're a bartender like somehow, if you're a bartender,
• 28:53
  it's like oh okay one now. Now I should respect this person
• 28:56
  because you know they have knowledge whereas if you're a
• 28:59
  waiter it's like I'll give me the fucking drinks motherfucker.
• 29:01
  Like it's like a very, very different Dynamic.
• 29:07
  The second someone says down at a table with a knife fork and a
• 29:10
  napkin they think they're fucking god pretty much.
• 29:12
  It's the level thing they sit down and somehow Go up and
• 29:16
  Status they demand waiting. See I don't get this as well,
• 29:23
  maybe this is maybe this is an upbringing thing because you
• 29:27
  know I mean I can't I came from a middle-class sorry
• 29:31
  working-class background but people assume that I'm middle
• 29:34
  class for some reason I went to a good school but I don't know
• 29:40
  it was still a public school you know?
• 29:41
  I mean I know nothing special but anyway the reason that
• 29:47
  that's relevant is obviously with these kind of jobs, I feel
• 29:53
  like that maybe there's a bit of a class divide thing going on
• 29:57
  maybe I don't know but like I remember when I started in my
• 30:01
  Supermarket job that's when the crap started you know with with
• 30:04
  customers and then when I transitioned into basically I
• 30:08
  quit that job started to go University at like 21 and
• 30:12
  started working in hotels and bartending us And I noticed a
• 30:16
  it's much more brutal. Anyone that works in hospitality
• 30:19
  and Catering, I feel for you. I've been there, it's ten times
• 30:24
  worse than the supermarket, but Supermarket retailing bit by
• 30:27
  comparison. Retail workers, have it easy?
• 30:29
  I'm sorry, but it's true because like you said, the level of
• 30:33
  respect drops so much when people realize that you're
• 30:37
  serving them. And the thing that I didn't get,
• 30:40
  I mean, I understood like thinking that you're better than
• 30:43
  everyone. I understand that complex X, but
• 30:46
  I couldn't understand that. So many people, I like that.
• 30:50
  I'd say, 80 and 90% of the people I dealt with were like
• 30:53
  that, like, and like the ones that would actually talk and,
• 30:58
  and, and kind of give you that impression, well at the obvious
• 31:02
  ones, but a lot of them wouldn't say anything.
• 31:04
  But you just knew it was there, by the way, their body language
• 31:07
  and everything, my very dismissive and I never got that
• 31:11
  because, you know, prior to me, working in those Industries.
• 31:15
  He's, you know, I always treated customer service staff with
• 31:19
  respect, you know, like I do because it's another human being
• 31:22
  like you know I mean like I don't understand where this kind
• 31:26
  of mentality of. Oh they're a customer service
• 31:28
  worker. Therefore I can treat them like
• 31:30
  shit. What?
• 31:31
  I don't get that. Where does that come from?
• 31:33
  Like It must maybe it's just a bad upbringing thing.
• 31:38
  Maybe it has nothing to do with class.
• 31:39
  I don't know. I just I don't get that.
• 31:45
  I think Sweden have a little bit of a flip on that because the as
• 31:49
  of I can't remember how far back this goes basically.
• 31:52
  The only way you can get alcohol in Sweden is to a specific
• 31:55
  government runs, a shop called system blog system will all get
• 31:59
  which is like, that's the only place you can get any alcohol,
• 32:01
  both 3.5 or you have to go all you go to a restaurant.
• 32:05
  There's no like Food Van, slyke three food Vans or give you
• 32:08
  beer, anything like that. You have to go to one of these
• 32:10
  two places. Okay.
• 32:14
  And you're also not allowed to be drunk in public, which is
• 32:16
  actually a law in UK but not fucking does anything about it.
• 32:19
  So basically as a bartender you are also also have to take a
• 32:23
  course about what intoxication looks like and if someone is
• 32:27
  intoxicated you have the rights to remove him from the premises
• 32:29
  no matter what they say. So people come in trying really
• 32:33
  hard, not to look so drunk and you can just look conspicuous.
• 32:38
  Some people say like, for example, my brother is the most
• 32:41
  Ginger person you'll ever meet. so, we went Some laser tag for
• 32:49
  like two hours and it was like super hot sweaty.
• 32:51
  So we had like red-faced, you know, like a tomato.
• 32:54
  Yeah. And he's not a drinker, he's
• 32:56
  never drank anything and we left there to go to a bar and they
• 32:58
  said, you can't come in here because that guy's drunk and me
• 33:01
  and everyone would just lag laughing.
• 33:03
  So we're not drunk. We've been playing like laser
• 33:05
  tag and shit and they're like, yeah.
• 33:07
  But he's like puffy and read in his eyes.
• 33:09
  I was like, that's just how he looks.
• 33:10
  Sweet. So people are actually a little
• 33:15
  bit more respectful for the Industry, because week.
• 33:22
  In the does not serve them, and then they have to go somewhere
• 33:24
  else which they don't want to do, which is pretty interesting,
• 33:26
  but makes a pretty fun Dynamic for a bartending podcast because
• 33:29
  it's quite an issue and move it forward.
• 33:33
  Like you mentioned that you're living in Sweden.
• 33:36
  You're a British man. So that obviously there's a
• 33:38
  story behind why you moved there.
• 33:41
  So, tell us why did you choose to move there?
• 33:43
  And what do you like and dislike about living in Sweden?
• 33:46
  How does it compare to the UK? Go nuts.
• 33:51
  Did you know that? I'm technically cool.
• 33:56
  What exotic exotic? Living abroad.
• 34:00
  Is like, I think I'm gonna the first time.
• 34:02
  Yeah. People think that I'm exotic
• 34:04
  cause like I'm not from here and then like, oh we love Monty
• 34:06
  Python. We love for Q towers and I'm
• 34:08
  like, oh, you know, fuck she tells was filmed like up the
• 34:10
  road from my house. Like, I really did you meet
• 34:11
  Nick, not in fucking M, done in the 80s or whatever?
• 34:15
  No, it's really interesting. The spin of being not from here.
• 34:18
  So yeah, it's like why I moved here?
• 34:22
  I don't know. It's like, I've been here for
• 34:24
  five years and I question I get all the time. so, now my, I'm
• 34:26
  just Like super adult response, but I'll try to make it sound
• 34:33
  fun, I guess it's just that Cornwall, like there's nothing
• 34:35
  to really do. Be my age the locals, think your
• 34:38
  student because you're in your 20s and you don't look like
• 34:40
  someone who works in a coal miner, whatever Cornish people
• 34:43
  do. So I wasn't I wasn't a student.
• 34:46
  So I wasn't welcomed in the student groups but I wasn't, I
• 34:49
  didn't look like a local so I didn't fit in with a local
• 34:51
  people which led to my basically my classmates.
• 34:55
  And then when you turn out 21, then you start working in
• 34:57
  hairdressing and you realize that most People, you spend your
• 35:00
  time with? There's old ladies and perm rods
• 35:05
  and she'll like that. So I became very secluded.
• 35:09
  So, an aside, like, what do I actually want to do and saved up
• 35:11
  losing money from? But from a hairdressing, I had
• 35:14
  like three thousand in the bank, and as I would just buy a
• 35:15
  one-way ticket to Sweden. See if I can find someone who
• 35:17
  let me stay with them and then just like start from there.
• 35:20
  Wow. So sleeping on some dudes sofa
• 35:23
  for like three months who ended up being a little Psychopathic
• 35:26
  like abusive and ship through frying pan at me once.
• 35:31
  Okay pause you got it. Tell me more about this.
• 35:34
  What the fuck is this? What's the story with this guy,
• 35:39
  like Yeah, this was messy. That's caused a lot of mental.
• 35:44
  Health issues, funny. I'm sorry to hear that.
• 35:47
  It's like, not us, it's fine. Don't fucking why not?
• 35:50
  I mean, before I left, I was, I was a musician and I was not
• 35:55
  earning much money. I think if anyone's listening to
• 35:58
  this podcast, we need listen to the one that me and Christian
• 36:00
  did on my show first. I called you here that I talked
• 36:03
  about being tours. Fuck for a while and it just
• 36:05
  eating pancakes. And I did that for like two
• 36:08
  weeks just like Flour and water in syrup.
• 36:14
  And I was just so mad attrition in my greedy week is and then I
• 36:17
  moved to Sweden. I met this guy because he's
• 36:19
  advertising on some sort of musician's musician page on
• 36:23
  Facebook. So I met him through that, he
• 36:25
  had a production company and I thought this is a good way of
• 36:27
  like getting into the industry. So I started working his
• 36:29
  production company sitting behind a desk.
• 36:31
  Oh shit, you're looking for him as well.
• 36:33
  Okay, this is a bad Dynamic, okay.
• 36:35
  This was literally Stockholm syndrome in Stockholm, like a
• 36:40
  The dream get over. Yeah.
• 36:46
  So I was working for him and the thing is because he wasn't
• 36:50
  paying me. So like I had to work all the
• 36:52
  time. 24/7 on cool. I was sleeping on his sofa old.
• 36:55
  He was technically your payment was living with him for feeling
• 37:00
  with him and eating so he provided food and stuff but like
• 37:05
  Jesus so he basically just like treated you like a slave then
• 37:09
  yeah. I didn't know any better and I
• 37:11
  mean I had at that point. No II didn't like confrontation.
• 37:15
  I still don't really. I was just say Mozart 21, like
• 37:22
  just young and just easy to mold.
• 37:24
  So he kind of shaped me into this kind of bundle of anxiety.
• 37:28
  And like, and then after like, two months, I snapped and decide
• 37:31
  went for a long walk and came back and I was like, in tears
• 37:33
  and shape. This kind of like, I need to go
• 37:34
  back home, I don't feel right. Is this isn't good for me.
• 37:37
  I don't feel healthy. I even told him I was like a
• 37:40
  little bit scared of him and he said, this is what happens after
• 37:44
  two months of like, you leaving your home.
• 37:46
  This is normally when you start to miss home but don't worry,
• 37:49
  I'll make sure It's okay by the blah.
• 37:52
  She's essentially gas laying your this point and then I don't
• 37:57
  know if she can. Yeah.
• 38:00
  And then he started sending me out like to some gigs and stuff
• 38:03
  because I'm very approachable in English.
• 38:05
  I'm friendly, I'm social and he's more of a CEO type of guy.
• 38:09
  He says he doesn't understand common people, he said you're
• 38:13
  much better with those kind of people.
• 38:14
  So I went out and was basically the face of the company told
• 38:17
  people. I needed to be back home by
• 38:19
  10:00 sharp. I need to ask me why and I kind
• 38:22
  of taught him a little bit about my life and everyone was saying
• 38:24
  to me like this is this is a horrible situation.
• 38:27
  You've got to get out of there. Yeah I'm like where do I go?
• 38:29
  I mean I got nowhere to go people promised me so bizarre
• 38:31
  stuff which no never actually came through.
• 38:33
  So once once this kind of happen, I just grab my shit.
• 38:36
  Left sleeping on park benches for about 23 weeks.
• 38:39
  This is around May, so this was fine.
• 38:41
  Like it was pretty nice weather and stuff, but yeah, I just like
• 38:44
  living on my suitcase with three weeks found an apartment and
• 38:47
  invested invested all my savings.
• 38:50
  He's into like a couple months, rent to this place.
• 38:54
  Then I found a job which were paying me, nothing.
• 38:58
  In fact, they weren't paying it off the first one because they
• 39:00
  were trailing me. So, then, I basically had the
• 39:02
  same situation again, like being used for slave labor, and then I
• 39:05
  had to basically grow spine and say to my boss, like if you
• 39:07
  don't pay me now, I have to leave the country because I
• 39:09
  don't have any more backup. I've gone through three thousand
• 39:12
  pounds worth of income on renting this place.
• 39:15
  So then he started paying me, just enough to survive almost
• 39:19
  this. Now, Oh no, but is this was over
• 39:21
  the course of one year and it shaped me take me to become like
• 39:25
  I have to start stepping up for myself.
• 39:27
  And then I met my girlfriend and I told her kind of the story and
• 39:30
  she was like, I wish I just met you right at the beginning to
• 39:33
  get through all this stuff. And I like, yeah, like, when she
• 39:35
  met me, I had like holes in my clothes.
• 39:36
  My shoes, like running out and stuff.
• 39:38
  I had a piece of string for about I was skinny.
• 39:42
  They're going to shit hell of a hell of a place.
• 39:44
  And obviously all the mental issues was your had no idea I
• 39:47
  had until they started by resurfacing later on.
• 39:50
  To some therapy sessions and shit.
• 39:53
  And I basically told me by a to grow a backbone and ship but
• 39:58
  yeah, I don't know, but I kind of lost track this kind of where
• 40:00
  I was and then it's been like two years since then.
• 40:03
  And I mean, I'm better now. But the dynamic of our
• 40:06
  relationship is very good, but at the same time, because I'm so
• 40:09
  used to being a submissive person and she my girlfriend can
• 40:12
  be, I don't use the word controlling, she's not, but
• 40:17
  like, I'm so used to having someone in my life.
• 40:19
  That basically tells me what to do.
• 40:20
  So I'm always over Lisa. It's if and allow people to kind
• 40:24
  of take control. So I'm still working on that
• 40:26
  like in my relationship, but she's like, so she's so
• 40:30
  supportive of me in just like, saying, like we can, you know,
• 40:33
  you can tell me if I'm pushing you too hard, or if you having
• 40:35
  panic attacks and stuff like this, let me know.
• 40:37
  So I don't know where we going to miss now.
• 40:39
  Oh, thanks to share him, and I'm very glad that you got out of
• 40:43
  that scenario. Fortunately, I do know how you
• 40:49
  feel. I've had situations in the past
• 40:52
  where I've dealt with People like this.
• 40:54
  And yeah, there is a point where you do need to kind of life will
• 41:00
  force you and I think that's what happened in your life.
• 41:02
  It happened in my life as well. Life will push you to a point
• 41:06
  where you have to do something about it because you can't let
• 41:09
  people walk all over you. And here's the trouble.
• 41:12
  Like, there's a difference between being nice and
• 41:15
  respectful and life and then letting people walk all over you
• 41:19
  because a lot of people out there when they see a nice
• 41:23
  person they'll try and manipulate they'll try and take
• 41:26
  advantage of that person and If you and this is really important
• 41:32
  for anyone listening who might be going through something like
• 41:34
  this, I want you to listen up if you're in a scenario.
• 41:39
  Where people are taking advantage of you or at least you
• 41:43
  feel that way or they're trying to manipulate your gas like you
• 41:47
  or whatever. The case may be, you need to
• 41:49
  stand up for yourself. No one is going to come and save
• 41:53
  you. Okay.
• 41:54
  It's not like the movies, right? You need to help yourself.
• 41:59
  You need to get yourself out of that situation.
• 42:03
  You're not a bad person. For saying no.
• 42:08
  You can say no and turn people down.
• 42:13
  And that's perfectly. Okay?
• 42:15
  And that doesn't make you selfish.
• 42:17
  No matter what that manipulative person might try and tell you
• 42:20
  that's bullshit. If it feels wrong, trust your
• 42:25
  own intuition. Trust your judgment.
• 42:26
  That's what's the most important thing ever like.
• 42:31
  I always look at myself how I feel right now and then how I
• 42:34
  felt years ago and I recognize that there's a very clear
• 42:37
  difference between the two like shockingly.
• 42:41
  So, And I'm grateful very grateful that I've got to this
• 42:47
  point where I've realized that I've realized a lot of people
• 42:50
  have not so it's very important to constantly like spread this
• 42:54
  message I think and try and wake people up, you know, because
• 42:58
  it's so easy to be manipulated. And like you said some of those
• 43:03
  things that that guy was saying to you it that form of
• 43:07
  manipulation comes in so many different ways.
• 43:10
  And yeah, it can happen in relationships too.
• 43:13
  It's, it's really fucked up. So it's really important that
• 43:16
  you take care of yourself and you kind of are aware to it and
• 43:20
  it awake and trusted your judgment.
• 43:23
  I think that's the biggest part about all of this.
• 43:25
  I don't want to go off on some big long tangent, but I just
• 43:29
  really want to reiterate that. It's important that you trust
• 43:32
  yourself and trust your own feelings.
• 43:36
  So, the interesting thing now, where the place I'm at is I have
• 43:40
  had, this was quite a while ago now and I'm still having, like,
• 43:43
  dream / nightmares about it. Okay.
• 43:45
  Most most of my dreams like this, again, I'm not aggressive.
• 43:48
  Anyway, so I'm not like dreaming.
• 43:50
  I'm beating him up front in a lot of the cases.
• 43:51
  I'm actually forgiving him and I'm saying, like, I'm sorry for
• 43:54
  the way things ended. And I don't know what I would
• 43:56
  do, if I met him on the street, would I just have to walk past
• 43:58
  him? But I bring down, like, I don't
• 44:00
  know the aftermath as to what would happen.
• 44:03
  I don't even have his living in Sweden anymore.
• 44:04
  Actually, but Whenever I speak to my girlfriend about and I'm
• 44:08
  just like I want to speak to him and say that I forget him she's
• 44:12
  like no, just move on. Don't don't even try my.
• 44:15
  All right. Well, what happened is, if I see
• 44:17
  him she went I think you'll know when that if that ever happens
• 44:19
  what to do. But the thing is like, I don't
• 44:22
  know like where to go from here. Like I guess I just have to stop
• 44:24
  thinking about what happens if I see him because there's many
• 44:26
  people on the planet, I don't need him, you know, like I think
• 44:31
  you're onto something. I think it's an important thing.
• 44:33
  I think for you what that may be rare presents is like a
• 44:38
  Acceptance in your mind. It's more like it's not anything
• 44:42
  to do with him. It's more kind of have.
• 44:45
  I really truly moved on from this and moved on to the next
• 44:48
  chapter. Or is this still lingering?
• 44:50
  It's like a, it's like a what if that can kind of drive you
• 44:54
  crazy? Because, you know, you need to
• 44:56
  know. Sometimes, you know, I've had
• 44:58
  people in the past where I've gone back and forth on them.
• 45:02
  Like do I really want this person in my life?
• 45:05
  Do I not like For example, I'll give you a very recent example
• 45:09
  of where I feel like I made the right judgment call but it took
• 45:12
  me a long time to do it. I'm just going to plug my
• 45:15
  charger in real quick go for a key.
• 45:18
  My is this a quick story anyway so I can keep.
• 45:23
  Yeah so I had this person who's older than me.
• 45:29
  I think she's like in her 50s or 60s or something seem like a
• 45:33
  very intelligent lady, all the way from Australia and she
• 45:39
  randomly started following me on Twitter and then started
• 45:42
  following me elsewhere and I was like okay great.
• 45:46
  And the thing here's the thing she was very blunt and would
• 45:55
  make jokes at my expense and stuff like that and I'm fine.
• 45:58
  I can take a joke. I can take, you know, people,
• 46:01
  you know, I don't know what the word is Banter.
• 46:04
  Yeah. But here's the thing, like, I
• 46:09
  would label it under in, she was, you know, eccentric.
• 46:12
  Oh, she's just a bit eccentric. Like that's how I would
• 46:15
  rationalize it in my mind for a little bit.
• 46:17
  I would just laugh. Laugh it off, but like up silly,
• 46:21
  you know, silly silly but every now and again, I would feel like
• 46:24
  she'd gone a bit too far with it and There was a point where I'd
• 46:30
  reply back and be like, now, you know, I disagree with that,
• 46:33
  blah, blah, blah. Then there was a point more
• 46:36
  recently where I would just ignore her.
• 46:39
  And then I was like, this is bad.
• 46:40
  This isn't normal that I'm ignoring this person, and then
• 46:43
  it's like this. I need to maybe do something
• 46:47
  about this. But as like, I mean, this is
• 46:49
  just some random person on the internet and then the final
• 46:53
  straw came, like a week ago or a couple of days ago.
• 46:57
  Whatever, I tweeted something out and I often tweets things
• 47:00
  out about the things that I love, you know, whatever.
• 47:03
  I like to be part of the online, like, for instance, wrestling,
• 47:05
  right? This was about wrestling.
• 47:07
  I'm a big wrestling fan. I like to tweet about certain
• 47:10
  things and the Royal Rumble had just happened.
• 47:14
  So I started doing like a little thread thing and basically she
• 47:17
  commented on that and was just taking the piss was just like
• 47:22
  oh, how can you watch that? Blah, blah, blah.
• 47:25
  And you know, it's nothing that I haven't heard before.
• 47:27
  For, but she just, I don't know, maybe she caught me on a bad
• 47:30
  day, but I was just, like, really pissed off about it.
• 47:33
  I was like, you know what, like it's fine.
• 47:36
  She just kept going on and on and I was like, you know what,
• 47:40
  you don't know what you're missing out on.
• 47:41
  And there's like millions and millions of fans worldwide and
• 47:45
  she just kept on with this whole, you know, just laughing
• 47:48
  at my expense. This is trash and I said, you
• 47:50
  know what, the and this is before I blocked her.
• 47:52
  I said there is nothing like more low than trying to Make
• 47:57
  someone else feel bad about their interests and life.
• 48:00
  Like, you're just like the worst type of person, and I just
• 48:03
  blocked her. And I blocked her everywhere
• 48:05
  else. And then, I found another
• 48:07
  message on one of the Instagram because I have like several
• 48:11
  Instagram profiles, right? And she'd messaged me on there
• 48:15
  because I had blocked her on the other one, right?
• 48:17
  I'd forgotten that if she had me on this other one so I saw her
• 48:20
  final message before I blocked her on that platform.
• 48:23
  And this is the thing, this is how I know I made the right
• 48:25
  decision. Because she was like, oh my God.
• 48:29
  Yeah you know what? Because I said you know what I
• 48:33
  said about wrestling or, you know, you can't handle it.
• 48:37
  All bloody children, whatever Lowell and I was like, this is
• 48:40
  exactly why you should remove these types of people from your
• 48:44
  life and block them out and get away from them.
• 48:46
  Because if they're that stupid and emotionally immature, that
• 48:51
  they can't understand why they've upset you and why what
• 48:54
  they've said is wrong and not, Possible then they should just
• 48:58
  go fuck themselves and that's the thing.
• 49:00
  Like I'm not soft in my response.
• 49:03
  I was I was very I put up with her for a long time.
• 49:06
  I was very respectful. I just made this point that you
• 49:10
  know what, that's not acceptable.
• 49:11
  And when I saw that her response was not an apology.
• 49:14
  I was like go fuck yourself. Then I don't want you in my life
• 49:18
  being negative and that's the key here is that I don't want
• 49:21
  that kind of negativity in my life and I don't think anyone
• 49:24
  should have to put up with that negativity in their life, you
• 49:26
  know? Eventually you do need to say
• 49:28
  no. And that's exactly what you did
• 49:30
  in your in your life. And I respect that.
• 49:34
  It's a lot harder to do face-to-face.
• 49:37
  Then it is you know online that's easy.
• 49:39
  It's just a couple of clicks but in real life it's it's a much
• 49:42
  bigger thing. And so yeah, big respect for
• 49:45
  that. I've just had a massive abstract
• 49:51
  Realization actually, after you give me the story she's like it
• 49:53
  just hit me really weirdly one of one of the jobs I applied for
• 49:57
  I have to apply for jobs because of the system here.
• 50:00
  If you don't apply, you don't get your funding.
• 50:01
  But Allah, even though I they asked me to take a personality
• 50:06
  test which are full be hilarious.
• 50:08
  So they asked me all these crazy questions and stuff and then I
• 50:10
  had this little diagram of like, who I am as a person and it said
• 50:14
  that I lacked empathy for others, which made me laugh so
• 50:19
  much Because now thinking about what you just said to me and
• 50:25
  talk about how I was before, I know how different of the test,
• 50:28
  I would have been if I took that one of 22, mmm, and I realized
• 50:31
  actually just from speaking with you.
• 50:33
  Now the maybe my empathy to begin with because I lived my
• 50:36
  life around the guy, I live my life around my employer, it was
• 50:41
  out of fear, not o out genuine concern for their well-being or
• 50:45
  for their abilities or anything. It was just pure fear.
• 50:48
  No. So I never actually nourished
• 50:50
  The sense of empathy for others. It was always driven by fear
• 50:54
  anger, I just realize this now on the podcast like shit, what
• 50:59
  do I you know after like re-examine my connections with
• 51:01
  everyone. So I've had that in the past you
• 51:03
  know I'm not gonna blame I'm not gonna name names but like I've
• 51:06
  had relationships where that's the case.
• 51:08
  And You know, I don't hold it against people, I just kind of
• 51:13
  move on with my life and accept that, you know, no one's perfect
• 51:17
  and mistakes are made on both sides and such.
• 51:19
  But I will say that there's a lot of things that I've
• 51:22
  realized. Now we're not my fault and were
• 51:24
  the fault of the other person. But the things that I needed to
• 51:29
  work on was exactly what you just mentioned.
• 51:31
  This thing of like realizing that, you know, it doesn't make
• 51:38
  you weak, you know, if you get upset by things you dislike
• 51:42
  things, you know. I think true weakness is his
• 51:46
  inability to be able to truly feel your emotions, you know,
• 51:52
  because a lot of people equate weakness with an inability to
• 51:55
  manage emotions like oh this person cries too much or all
• 52:00
  this person gets hysterical would like it is important to be
• 52:04
  able to know. When to put a lid on that now
• 52:07
  and again, but at the same time like it's your genuine human
• 52:12
  emotion, it's how you feel. And if you're suppressing that,
• 52:15
  I mean that's not good for you, you know, you need to get it
• 52:18
  out. And that's the key to empathy is
• 52:21
  the other person needs to allow you to be like that.
• 52:27
  And just be there for you. Almost like soak it up a little
• 52:30
  bit, you know? And you need to kind of be there
• 52:32
  for each other in that capacity, you know, you don't know.
• 52:35
  A lot of people mistake empathy for for sympathy the think that,
• 52:39
  you know, you need someone to turn around and tell you what to
• 52:42
  do and give you advice, and you don't want that, you want
• 52:44
  someone to sit there and maybe you cry on their shoulder, your
• 52:47
  hug them, you complain for an hour, whatever like you just
• 52:50
  need to get it out so that you feel better.
• 52:53
  Again it's the same reason that when we cry we feel better
• 52:56
  afterwards don't we? You know, or they're very least
• 52:58
  we feel like there's a bit of relief because we feel like
• 53:02
  we've got something out of our system, you know?
• 53:05
  It's a And I've said this on the podcast several times before but
• 53:08
  yeah it's important to get these things out and fully address our
• 53:11
  emotions and and so not let other people kind of control us
• 53:16
  or make us feel like we can't be ourselves, you know?
• 53:20
  I think that there's this issue of letting other people almost
• 53:24
  like punish you for the way you are.
• 53:27
  And, you know, I remember years ago, I, I tried to like change
• 53:32
  myself and other people like, I felt bad.
• 53:34
  I felt like I Was a problem. And that, you know, I was weak
• 53:38
  and this, and that, and the other.
• 53:39
  I know there's nothing wrong with me at all.
• 53:41
  I'm not perfect, but I am perfect as much as if I'm being
• 53:46
  myself. Then that's what's right.
• 53:49
  You know, if I'm being myself and not letting other people try
• 53:53
  and change me then that is perfect.
• 53:56
  It had been in my opinion, I think so in reference to your
• 54:00
  Twitter interaction I think this is where my supposed lack of
• 54:05
  empathy would come into play. I think a lot of it is due to
• 54:07
  the fact I'm I'm not on social media.
• 54:10
  My theory is if you're Acting with someone who you've never
• 54:14
  interacted with before. Hmm, ask yourself if it's the
• 54:17
  interactions giving you any sorts of joy.
• 54:19
  We were gaining anything from it.
• 54:20
  Because why should you invest emotional, like your emotional
• 54:23
  capacity on somebody who you've never met before sake?
• 54:26
  Don't allow that first like they haven't earned your sympathy
• 54:28
  yet. And I think that's probably why
• 54:30
  my lack of empathy is, is kind of embedded.
• 54:32
  But, like, onto. I'm so sick of being so,
• 54:34
  emotionally involved in in strangers.
• 54:36
  Why would you, why would you bother?
• 54:39
  This is why I don't do charity. I think it's a good.
• 54:43
  I think it's a good thing. I would challenge the charity
• 54:47
  thing though, because I do volunteering and I must say that
• 54:50
  there is a lot to be gained from it for both, the people you're
• 54:55
  helping and for yourself, like it's a good thing to do for your
• 54:58
  own soul. I think, but I completely agree
• 55:02
  with you on the online thing and just in general yet like any
• 55:05
  relationship, any kind of friendship, if they're not
• 55:08
  giving you something, then don't bother.
• 55:10
  You know that like look We don't do anything in life for free,
• 55:14
  you know, that's if you have a friendship, it's based on the
• 55:18
  concept that they give you something, and you give them
• 55:20
  something and I know pit. A lot people don't like that.
• 55:23
  They're like, oh, that sounds so horrible and selfish.
• 55:25
  No, it's just reality. You know, the Friendship has put
• 55:28
  a list. It's just like, you know, you're
• 55:32
  there for them. They're there for you, you know,
• 55:34
  you feel that you can talk to each other about things give
• 55:37
  love whatever like it's, that's a former currency in a way, you
• 55:41
  know, and if you're not getting that if you Not getting
• 55:42
  anything. And it's just take, take, take
• 55:45
  and not give give give then why the fuck are you doing it?
• 55:48
  You know, it's like, there's just no point and I think
• 55:52
  that's, that's the thing. A lot of people put up with too
• 55:55
  much crap in life. They just swallow this shit and
• 55:58
  just continue. And there's a point where you
• 56:01
  need to draw the line with that and just say, you know what, I'm
• 56:03
  not going to put up with this crap anymore.
• 56:05
  That's kind of how I felt, but that Twitter really rich
• 56:08
  interaction. I was like, fuck this person.
• 56:10
  I don't want them in my life anymore.
• 56:12
  Like whatever, if they can't, if they I mean, let me put it this
• 56:15
  way. If you've been on this planet
• 56:17
  for 50, 60 years and you don't understand that your behavior is
• 56:22
  rude, obnoxious childish and just low, then I can't help you.
• 56:30
  You know, it's not my job to educate you and if you don't
• 56:33
  understand from my initial response, that's your problem
• 56:36
  but get the fuck out of my life, you know, that's the way that's
• 56:39
  the way it is. Yeah.
• 56:41
  I mean I have to To try to make myself and I'll sound so bad.
• 56:44
  But like I'm charitable where it matters.
• 56:45
  Like for example, we are downsizing and moving up to the
• 56:49
  country because it's absolutely, yeah.
• 56:51
  But it's like, we have a lot of stuff that's Funk, totally
• 56:55
  functionable, dysfunctional, functionable, function
• 56:58
  functional. So, we have given them to a
• 57:03
  place as we're in Stockholm, which is helping immigrants.
• 57:06
  It's a big immigrant Community with one person or reception.
• 57:09
  You just give them a things. I would give frying, pans knives
• 57:11
  spoons for lovely. Some headphones, some shoes,
• 57:14
  like course they can have that stuff like I don't I don't need
• 57:17
  this stuff. I even have an old suit and I'm
• 57:19
  thinking like what? I don't know what an immigrant
• 57:20
  would do with a suit, but like why not?
• 57:22
  They probably have a job interview or something coming
• 57:24
  up, why not? So I'm charitable where it
• 57:27
  matters but if if someone comes out of the blue, like Slither
• 57:31
  starts walking towards me now, I went in floods of Tears.
• 57:33
  I'm like okay, I'll listen to you for a while but like I don't
• 57:37
  know, I'm a little bit more. I think it's been so long time
• 57:40
  coming for me to actually care about my own happiness.
• 57:42
  I've been focusing on other people.
• 57:43
  So now I think I'm just. Do you know what?
• 57:46
  Hey, Gail Ian logic where it's like circuit nor circumstance
• 57:51
  was called the dialectic method where it's like a situation
• 57:55
  happens, then a counter situation and then the part in
• 57:58
  the middle and fuck I'm completely fucking this up.
• 58:01
  It's like first of all like the situation was a like I didn't
• 58:05
  care at all about myself and now I'm in the process of carrying a
• 58:08
  little bit too much about myself that I'm lacking empathy.
• 58:10
  So I'm hoping in a couple years it will start to just Mellow out
• 58:13
  a little bit and I'll be a bit more concerned and appreciative
• 58:15
  of others. But as it stands right now, I'm
• 58:16
  pretty self involved in with thinking.
• 58:20
  I know it's not healthy, but at least I can approach it.
• 58:22
  I don't, I disagree. I think it is healthy because I
• 58:26
  used to be what's funnily enough.
• 58:29
  I used to have your mindset that you have now as far as like
• 58:33
  thinking, oh, that's, you can't be like that.
• 58:35
  That's selfish. That's this, that no, no, that's
• 58:38
  stupid. Like we have to look after.
• 58:42
  After ourselves first and foremost, like our own happiness
• 58:45
  is key. Like and it's selfish not to not
• 58:49
  to prioritize that because if you're unhappy, you're going to
• 58:53
  make everyone else around you on happy.
• 58:55
  If you're happy, you're going to make everyone else around you
• 58:58
  happy. It's as simple as that.
• 59:00
  If you're not working on your own happiness, others around you
• 59:03
  will suffer. So there's nothing wrong with
• 59:07
  prioritizing, your own happiness.
• 59:09
  It's very, very important. And, you know, a lot of us in
• 59:15
  life are lonely and don't have others around us to kind of be
• 59:21
  there for us when times get hard.
• 59:23
  And, you know, it's up to us to just sort ourselves out sort our
• 59:26
  own responsibilities out, you know, no one's going to do it
• 59:29
  for us. That might my dad's once said to
• 59:31
  me is bit of advice but he said like, you know, you are your own
• 59:34
  best friend and I I think that's key, you know, you know yourself
• 59:40
  better than anyone else, you know, how to make.
• 59:41
  Of happy, you know, how to make yourself sad and as it pertains
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  to helping others like just randomly, I mean that I think it
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  comes down to time. And like, for instance, the
• 59:51
  state, your scenario of someone on the street crying, you know,
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  we see shit happen on the streets all the time, you know,
• 59:58
  sometimes we get involved. Sometimes we don't it doesn't
• 1:00:01
  make you a bad person if you choose not to get involved.
• 1:00:03
  Like it depends on the scenario, you know, if you see someone
• 1:00:07
  getting attacked, you know, call the police.
• 1:00:09
  So if you can stop it, stop it. But Know what I mean?
• 1:00:12
  Like if it's something like someone crying ideally, you'd
• 1:00:15
  like to help them, but like, there are millions of us on this
• 1:00:19
  planet, you know, I mean, there's many other people that
• 1:00:21
  can help you don't have to be there all the time.
• 1:00:23
  And I think that's key. You don't have to be fixing
• 1:00:26
  other people's problems. It's up to people to fix their
• 1:00:29
  own problems. I think the crucial thing is to
• 1:00:34
  be there for the ones you love. I think that's the first most
• 1:00:37
  important thing and then everyone else.
• 1:00:39
  If you can, you can, if you've got the time, I make it happen.
• 1:00:42
  If not, you're not a bad person, you know, to me, that's the true
• 1:00:47
  reality of the situation, but not enough.
• 1:00:49
  People say that people are too busy saying.
• 1:00:51
  Oh, you shouldn't be selfish and be there.
• 1:00:53
  Shouldn't be that. But it takes a lot of energy to
• 1:00:57
  be there for other people, and that means you're putting your
• 1:00:59
  own interests and feelings aside.
• 1:01:01
  And I'm not necessarily, I don't always think that that's the
• 1:01:06
  right thing to do, sometimes, yes, other times.
• 1:01:09
  No, I think it really depends on the situation.
• 1:01:11
  Ation. Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Like bringing bring this back into the podcasting Universe.
• 1:01:17
  I remember speaking with you, on price tag part about about the
• 1:01:22
  cheerfulness of the podcast under now price, tag pod.
• 1:01:25
  And the thing is, the first podcast I ever did, was rejected
• 1:01:28
  service. Like, it's very much too angry
• 1:01:30
  aggressive, like Angry bartenders, I just want a bitch
• 1:01:33
  and it's like, that's fun entertaining.
• 1:01:34
  Everyone loves like, the thing that I find comedy is, is
• 1:01:37
  basically like an captured energy.
• 1:01:39
  It can be can be joyous, energy can be like, aggression a lot of
• 1:01:42
  Comedians. I love Bill Burr, and most of
• 1:01:44
  the things I just full-on monologue.
• 1:01:45
  Rants, just entertaining to see, like a guy, get frustrated with
• 1:01:49
  things. And there's nothing funnier than
• 1:01:51
  someone's screaming on the phone to business about their fucking
• 1:01:55
  up for, whatever. It's always funny but the thing
• 1:01:57
  is, I just felt for so long that we've done this kind of negative
• 1:02:00
  energy, we've been putting it into the universe.
• 1:02:02
  And I think, now, with price tag pot, I finally have the ability
• 1:02:04
  to bring him some sort of Joy, some more like cheesiness, and
• 1:02:08
  this is kind of what we need. Now is something a bit more
• 1:02:11
  uplifting light-hearted. It's nothing serious, some
• 1:02:14
  funniness, some silliness and like, that's kind of what I want
• 1:02:17
  to be putting out now. Okay, this is important.
• 1:02:21
  Let's talk about that third podcast, that the dungeon
• 1:02:24
  dragons one. So it's quite an interesting
• 1:02:26
  concept. It's like a role play style
• 1:02:29
  story thing. Yeah tell us more about this
• 1:02:34
  because it's quite an interesting concept that don't
• 1:02:36
  know if I've seen this before. Now, this is what I would Define
• 1:02:41
  to be my chaotic neutral concept because it it's absurd.
• 1:02:47
  It's really absurd. I don't really know what I'm
• 1:02:49
  doing with it right now. I don't even know if I should be
• 1:02:51
  promoting it so much because first of all, what we do is we
• 1:02:55
  get around the table. We played a good player,
• 1:02:56
  Dungeons and Dragons game, both me.
• 1:02:59
  And my in fact it's actually me and the guy from the first
• 1:03:02
  podcast me Marco with the guy from hopefully will be part of
• 1:03:06
  price tag pod. So it's basically my collect
• 1:03:09
  collective people. And it's set within like a
• 1:03:12
  bartending World realm of such. So we go we go do like a one
• 1:03:17
  shot campaign and then I take the rule recording.
• 1:03:20
  I edit it, add like backing track.
• 1:03:23
  I've added sound effects as if it was to be like actual film.
• 1:03:27
  So I have like knifes wipes and footsteps people pouring hot
• 1:03:31
  coffee or whatever, like I did it to the fullest extent.
• 1:03:34
  So takes all my time. I've been doing that for like,
• 1:03:38
  well, over a year now, and it's only until now, I've looked into
• 1:03:40
  Legal consequences of taking people's music and putting it on
• 1:03:42
  your podcast. Yeah.
• 1:03:44
  Yeah. And not just that I've taken
• 1:03:46
  like sound effects, I shouldn't have done and like it's
• 1:03:52
  basically a massive, massive copyright infringement.
• 1:03:55
  So, like now I have this like, it's really, really enjoyable.
• 1:03:59
  I love it, it's hilarious. We have so much fun and I know
• 1:04:02
  that it would do very well but like I can't put it out.
• 1:04:04
  I don't know what to do with it right now, so it's on YouTube as
• 1:04:07
  it stands. And YouTube are pretty good that
• 1:04:09
  they'll flag. Be right when they see it and
• 1:04:11
  the minute every single one episode has been flagged, but
• 1:04:13
  it's not saying that I need to do any extra steps.
• 1:04:16
  It's nice that you have to take it down just so we have noticed
• 1:04:18
  that. Yeah, the issue is more when
• 1:04:19
  they they block it completely in certain places, but if it's just
• 1:04:23
  a copyright claim, at least you can have it online.
• 1:04:26
  That's the main thing. It's a real gamble because I
• 1:04:29
  read that what the majority most of these came claims never go
• 1:04:33
  through because it's the internet and it's kind of fair
• 1:04:36
  game up there and the thing is, I looked into fair use in the
• 1:04:40
  That and it doesn't fall into fair use, I spoke to some
• 1:04:43
  lawyers on read it because it's right, it's amazing.
• 1:04:44
  And they said, this is pure straight up, copyright
• 1:04:46
  infringement. I looked at the repercussions of
• 1:04:48
  that and so if someone who claims their music, but the most
• 1:04:53
  common thing is they will write to you and they'll say like you
• 1:04:56
  have my work cease and desist and then that's when you should
• 1:04:59
  stop. But they can also say, cease and
• 1:05:02
  desist, but I also need a magic costs and they can charge you up
• 1:05:05
  two hundred fifty thousand dollars.
• 1:05:06
  Oh, I like that. There's a potential potential
• 1:05:09
  that I Could be fined heavily maybe I don't know.
• 1:05:13
  So wow I don't know what to do with it right now because I
• 1:05:16
  spent so much time working on it.
• 1:05:19
  We're going to do one shot and with this summer.
• 1:05:23
  So then after that, I don't know what we're going to do, all I
• 1:05:27
  can do, is I keep it as my personal property and if people
• 1:05:29
  are interested, I can share it to them.
• 1:05:31
  Mmm, but then that's still not a still not lawful, so I don't
• 1:05:36
  know where to go from there. So, that's a lot of wasted time.
• 1:05:42
  I'd say you should still go for it.
• 1:05:45
  It'll probably take a lot of work moving forward, but, you
• 1:05:47
  know, I think all good things require a lot of good work done
• 1:05:51
  it. I mean, I have to do a lot of
• 1:05:52
  behind the scenes with this podcast, you know.
• 1:05:54
  It takes a long, long time, but it's worth it.
• 1:05:57
  I think, overall, you know, and this idea sounds pretty good.
• 1:06:02
  It sounds fairly unique. You know, I'm not sure I've
• 1:06:05
  really come across this before. So I think so long as you win,
• 1:06:08
  Yeah, why not keep going for it, you know, got something there.
• 1:06:13
  So and for me because we're leaving we're as I said, we're
• 1:06:17
  leaving Stockholm for the Countryside by the end of the
• 1:06:20
  year. Hmm, am I going to see all my
• 1:06:22
  friends again? Maybe, maybe not, maybe they're
• 1:06:24
  going to come on train once every other month.
• 1:06:27
  Maybe going to be podcasting through Zoom from now on.
• 1:06:29
  But the thing is, your your group and your friends aren't
• 1:06:31
  always again, dude, I move from call multi here.
• 1:06:34
  So I'm very used to just cutting ties with people and moving on,
• 1:06:37
  which is why my empathy comes in.
• 1:06:38
  He's here. So I'm gonna do the exact same
• 1:06:40
  thing. Probably if people want to hang
• 1:06:41
  out with me then I would love them too.
• 1:06:42
  But the thing is these are my two best friends right now.
• 1:06:45
  And maybe in 20 years, we don't talk, but I still have this DND
• 1:06:48
  session recorded and I'd be like, oh, I want to sit down
• 1:06:51
  with a good bourbon and just listen to the gun, the Times
• 1:06:53
  Gone past, you know? Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  It's a digital footprint, which is what I've been putting out
• 1:06:57
  for the past two years. That's why I love podcasting
• 1:06:59
  because you can go back and be like shit.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah, I remember speaking with Christian Reeve, 20 years ago,
• 1:07:03
  that was fun, although he's doing now and now is this fun.
• 1:07:06
  That's really cool man. I dig that.
• 1:07:08
  Maybe maybe your Superstar and I have my podcast with you
• 1:07:11
  somewhere. I mean, who knows?
• 1:07:14
  Who knows? Yeah, I just want to bring it
• 1:07:17
  back to Sweden for a second. What do you like and dislike
• 1:07:22
  about Sweden? I think I might ask you this
• 1:07:24
  before but we went off in a bit of a tangent but yeah I just
• 1:07:28
  love to know what you really think of it.
• 1:07:30
  Like your likes dislikes, being a British man.
• 1:07:33
  Do you think you'll ever come back to UK?
• 1:07:35
  Or is it just always going to be in Sweden now like Talk to us
• 1:07:39
  about Sweden. Yeah, I don't see the purpose of
• 1:07:42
  going back. There's nobody much there for me
• 1:07:44
  to go back to like, yeah, I have my family, which, of course,
• 1:07:47
  I'll go back whenever something tragic happens and probably
• 1:07:52
  probably going to like regret it in the future but like I have to
• 1:07:54
  live for me, so I don't know for me.
• 1:07:57
  It just feels like I left there to kind of grow a little bit and
• 1:08:01
  I have and I'm not really ready to feel that I'm done growing.
• 1:08:05
  Maybe if I went wherever to move back, it probably.
• 1:08:08
  Like Brighton or to like somewhere else.
• 1:08:10
  It's not corn off somewhere. That's kind of more
• 1:08:12
  Metropolitan, I guess, mmm, but sweet as it stands.
• 1:08:16
  It's so especially the countryside.
• 1:08:17
  It's so cheap to like buy land and property and thanks to like
• 1:08:22
  The past few years it's actually very so it can be quite easy to
• 1:08:26
  earn enough money. I mean I before this covid here
• 1:08:29
  I was on vacation maybe three or four times a year because it
• 1:08:32
  pay. Well my living costs are very
• 1:08:35
  low and I don't like I'm vegan. So I don't need an expensive
• 1:08:38
  meats and cheeses or anything like that.
• 1:08:40
  Like I keep my vices pretty pretty short.
• 1:08:42
  So like we managed to save a good amount of money that we can
• 1:08:45
  just go to the countryside and spend, I think like, it's barely
• 1:08:49
  barely 200,000 on a property. Like At that I can't imagine
• 1:08:54
  anyone UK that's prices that load so I don't know.
• 1:08:56
  I like it here is going to be calm as can be quiet I get to do
• 1:09:00
  some like agricultural work because I'm also studying
• 1:09:03
  mycology in my own free time. So like the study is a mushrooms
• 1:09:07
  and ecosystems and like permaculture.
• 1:09:10
  I'd like a real love for that right now.
• 1:09:12
  So it's like it'll be nice to have some land.
• 1:09:14
  I can actually like do one use and how many recording studio
• 1:09:17
  and I don't know if there's more space, that's less expensive.
• 1:09:20
  So it's like maybe I'll buy a drum kit.
• 1:09:22
  Maybe I will like maybe have another hobby.
• 1:09:25
  But like I want to be the old man with like ten sheds.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah. Like full of random shit that I
• 1:09:30
  just like to do. Probably, didn't even answer
• 1:09:33
  your question. I like Sweden, it's easier to
• 1:09:37
  live. That's awesome, man.
• 1:09:39
  You mentioned covid in the so what's been the response to
• 1:09:44
  covid in Sweden? Well, it's been much, more
• 1:09:46
  relaxing. You read in the newspapers like
• 1:09:49
  I'm subscribed to the guardian and I always read that Sweden
• 1:09:52
  has Light touch, which has been chaotic, and we've killed so
• 1:09:55
  many people. And lots of old people have died
• 1:09:57
  and this kind of dramatic miss about it and it's like no one.
• 1:10:02
  It doesn't matter what government on the world.
• 1:10:04
  No one's doing well with this thing.
• 1:10:05
  It's like we can't. So yeah, we had a light touch.
• 1:10:08
  I kept my job much longer than anyone else that I know have up
• 1:10:12
  until like Tobar maybe. Whoa.
• 1:10:15
  And like we had covid before UK, we added the day before the UK.
• 1:10:19
  It just spread rapidly very fast in the Okay, people are more
• 1:10:23
  spread out here in the country and so I would say economically
• 1:10:26
  would probably better off than other countries health-wise.
• 1:10:30
  Yes, there's a problem right now.
• 1:10:31
  Now the second way was hitting us, pretty hard, but to be
• 1:10:34
  honest, my life is pretty secluded from it.
• 1:10:36
  I don't read the numbers of figures.
• 1:10:38
  I don't really my house. Like I go and get like
• 1:10:40
  groceries, maybe once a week shopping.
• 1:10:42
  Sorry, groceries. As the American word, isn't it?
• 1:10:47
  Jesus so exotic. So, what?
• 1:10:56
  Okay, this this is an interesting one.
• 1:10:58
  I've started asking my guest recently.
• 1:11:02
  What's the biggest life lesson you've learned so far?
• 1:11:07
  I don't know. I'm trying to think of a phrase.
• 1:11:08
  It isn't as cheesy as like find your own happiness.
• 1:11:13
  Mmm, I just way too cheesy for me.
• 1:11:15
  So I'm going to take that back. But in your purse in your life
• 1:11:21
  personally was the biggest thing that just stands out there.
• 1:11:23
  Like okay that's that's what I've learned.
• 1:11:25
  That's if nothing else this. Yes and yes and I think that's
• 1:11:31
  it. It's two words.
• 1:11:32
  Yes and agree with the situation and build upon it.
• 1:11:36
  Okay I think that's probably the best way.
• 1:11:40
  Maybe don't agree with their balloon from the situation
• 1:11:42
  you're in and try to build. Yes.
• 1:11:45
  And like accepting the situation.
• 1:11:46
  Not trying to resist it and trying to build a plan.
• 1:11:49
  Built like work on it, essentially swim with the tide.
• 1:11:53
  Mmm. Well let me take care of you.
• 1:11:55
  Something like Yeah, no I agree with that.
• 1:11:59
  I do. Awesome man.
• 1:12:01
  Thank you. As we draw things to a close
• 1:12:04
  today on my biggest, I'll go for it.
• 1:12:08
  What? Yeah, one of my biggest pet
• 1:12:10
  hates whenever I'm watching. Like, design programs is those
• 1:12:13
  cheesy like, dream, live laugh, love signs, or like, even the
• 1:12:21
  horrible tacky 10, like posters to say, like, I love cooking
• 1:12:27
  with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the
• 1:12:29
  food like ah, how original so fucking funny.
• 1:12:32
  Like shit like that really annoys me and people using like
• 1:12:35
  certain phrases. I also hate Like, for example,
• 1:12:39
  if I'm like, I'll shit my socks are full of snow everyone in the
• 1:12:43
  vicinity of like oh welcome to Sweden, like, fuck you.
• 1:12:46
  It's not an original thought. It's just like, I don't know,
• 1:12:50
  I'm renting here but let's just say I find I don't like sayings
• 1:12:53
  and cheesy like Dream Live Laugh, Love bullshit.
• 1:12:57
  The, you see, so I can't really I can't confine my, my beliefs
• 1:13:02
  into a phrase other than yes. And I guess.
• 1:13:04
  Yeah, cool. Thanks for sharing, man.
• 1:13:06
  Appreciate it. And as we draw, Things to a
• 1:13:08
  close today. Do you have any sort of final
• 1:13:11
  thoughts or maybe some upcoming projects that you'd like to
• 1:13:14
  share with our listeners just price tag pod?
• 1:13:16
  Really? I think that's going to be my,
• 1:13:18
  my Flagship project. I don't know if you call it like
• 1:13:20
  the one that I will be putting most of my time into.
• 1:13:24
  I don't really know as to what the Indie thing is going to come
• 1:13:26
  towards the reject and serve. I don't know how we're going to
• 1:13:29
  Brand it. We're a little little confused
• 1:13:31
  right now with things, especially with me relocating.
• 1:13:34
  So pretty much follow price tag pod.
• 1:13:36
  That's going to remain exactly the same.
• 1:13:38
  From this on this point moment, I guess.
• 1:13:41
  Awesome. Yeah so I said to my listeners
• 1:13:44
  yeah, make sure you go check out the price tag pods.
• 1:13:46
  You can find that. Where can we find that?
• 1:13:48
  Actually this googly I think do you can you put a link on this
• 1:13:52
  video or something I can do that?
• 1:13:53
  That's no problem at all. Yeah make sure you go check that
• 1:13:57
  out and yeah it's want to say a massive.
• 1:13:59
  Thank you for agreeing to be on the show man.
• 1:14:01
  It's been an absolute pleasure. Cool.
• 1:14:03
  If you want to hangout chat shit again I'm happy to come on
• 1:14:05
  whenever you always fill those hours.
• 1:14:09
  You're always welcome. Yeah.
• 1:14:10
  And like I mentioned in the Preamble, I am due to appear.
• 1:14:15
  We've already done the episode on the price tag podcast.
• 1:14:17
  I believe you said that that's drop in sometime in the summer
• 1:14:20
  of this year. Is that correct?
• 1:14:22
  Let me check the schedule. I have this weird feeling.
• 1:14:25
  That is August. Yeah, that sounds about right
• 1:14:28
  because week because listen is this guy break the price up so
• 1:14:33
  high. That I also need to keep it.
• 1:14:35
  I need to keep it so that he can't be the first guy.
• 1:14:38
  On the down because otherwise he's going to be on top of the
• 1:14:40
  leaderboard for, like most of the Season strong.
• 1:14:43
  So that's like, I've had to like push you back really far in
• 1:14:46
  there like pecking order because yeah, it was a really good
• 1:14:49
  episode on my favorites greatest.
• 1:14:51
  It was really, it was really good.
• 1:14:54
  August. 6th is your episode awesome.
• 1:14:57
  Awesome. So August 6th I'll be appearing
• 1:14:59
  on the price tag podcast. I'll obviously linked that to my
• 1:15:01
  listeners when that happens either 21st, episode fantastic.
• 1:15:07
  Yeah well thank you very For appearing on the podcast Ainsley
• 1:15:10
  and I wish you the best of luck with all of your endeavors.
• 1:15:13
  I know you're going to succeed and yeah, it's been a pleasure
• 1:15:16
  having you on the show. I want to say to all my
• 1:15:18
  listeners of the Christian read podcast.
• 1:15:21
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• 1:15:30
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• 1:15:33
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• 1:15:35
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• 1:16:01
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• 1:16:04
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