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Charles McDonald on Eagles in distress, Bijan Robinson's greatness & the Jets coaching problem | 10.08 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time presented by
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  Speaker 1: a hater. Thursdays with Charles McDonald. That's what we do.
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  Speaker 1: And check him out on the athletic live show. Let
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  Speaker 1: me talk about football and stuff. What's going on, man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good out here in sunny Los Angeles now.
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  Speaker 2: Last time I did this pod, I was definitely still
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  Speaker 2: a New Yorker, but I got that text from Ryan
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  Speaker 2: where he was like, you're on the West Coast, right?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yep. He was like, how does 9 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Pacific sound? I'm like, you know what? I'd be up anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good. Guess what just happened to you? That
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  Speaker 1: 9 just turned to 8 next time. Yeah. Look at
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  Speaker 1: you being a grown up. Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I know. But I was up hella early
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  Speaker 2: today because I still haven't like I've been here for
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  Speaker 2: like a month now, but I still haven't like fully,
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  Speaker 2: fully adjusted. I'm still like somewhat living on East Coast
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  Speaker 2: time doing NFL stuff. So I will say we like
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  Speaker 2: to hear. These 8 a.m. Not 8 a.m., but the
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  Speaker 2: game's ending at 8.30 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: There's something to that, but I tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: There's something to it, man.
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  Speaker 1: I think the most overrated thing about living in California
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  Speaker 1: is the 10 o'clock kickoffs on Sunday. Because if you
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  Speaker 1: have anything to do, you can't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That's tough. The 10 a.m. Luckily, this is
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  Speaker 2: my job. So I kind of have to come here regardless.
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  Speaker 2: But the 9 a.m. kicks on Saturday really get me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, if you got anything
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  Speaker 1: else that you got to do, when you supposed to
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  Speaker 1: do it? Right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not waking up at 7.30 on Saturday, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like 7.30 on Saturday. No, we getting ready for
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  Speaker 1: other things. You understand what I'm saying? But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're out there in L.A. doing you good.
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  Speaker 1: We got NFL action to talk about. Lane Johnson retired
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and we're not going to tell any
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  Speaker 1: jokes about that.
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  Speaker 2: No, sir. Nothing funny about that.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I do want to say this
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  Speaker 1: right fast, though. Those who follow me, Know my big thing.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't going to lose it all over a joke.
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  Speaker 1: I did a podcast the other day where I told
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  Speaker 1: a very, very funny series of jokes about OJ Simpson.
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  Speaker 1: One of them, perfectly permissible. The other one, little bit
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  Speaker 1: on the line. I got a phone call, and they
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  Speaker 1: were saying to me, or trying to break it to
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  Speaker 1: me softly, that they were going to cut those jokes
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  Speaker 1: out of the broadcast. I'm like, baby, you ain't got
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  Speaker 1: to explain nothing to me. You ain't even have to
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  Speaker 1: call me in the first place. If you think that
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't worth the risk, it's all good, because we're
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  Speaker 1: not going down over a joke. And I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: the first joke. The second one, I'll tell you later. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The first joke was simply this. We were talking about B.
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  Speaker 1: John Robinson, and we were trying to figure out who
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  Speaker 1: to comp with for B. John Robinson. And then I
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  Speaker 1: let Jesus Christ himself. Then I let it sit for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of beats. And then I stopped and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious. If he reminded you of O.J. Simpson,
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  Speaker 1: would you say it?
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  Speaker 2: OK, see, I don't think that that's a bad.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: It was OK.
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  Speaker 1: It was OK. But it was OK. Now, the other one.
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  Speaker 1: It just wasn't worth it is the point that I'm making, right?
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  Speaker 1: And that's where Stephen A got himself in trouble. It
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't worth it. He was trying to make the point, man,
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  Speaker 1: things so bad in Philadelphia that dot, dot, dot. And
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  Speaker 1: all people heard was mental health joke. They didn't. He
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  Speaker 1: tried to come back and be like, yo, y'all misconstrued
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  Speaker 1: what I was saying. That's not the point. That's not it.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the point. The first one's fine. When I
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  Speaker 2: used to do Football 301 with Nate, when we were
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  Speaker 2: doing the Harold Fannin draft, he was coming out of
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  Speaker 2: Bowling Green, got drafted by the Browns. I compared him
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  Speaker 2: to Aaron Hernandez, and I was like, look, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying he's a murderer, but have you seen this boy play?
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  Speaker 2: Stephen A got caught up. One of my friends who's
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  Speaker 2: a comic was watching that video, and he was like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: Stephen A was doing crowd work.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a ride we're talking about. There's nothing
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  Speaker 1: harder than comedy, right? Like I have made the decision
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  Speaker 1: before I got here that I'm going to tell a
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  Speaker 1: joke and that joke is going to land. I used
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  Speaker 1: to work with somebody who didn't understand no matter how
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  Speaker 1: many times you do this in the mirror, you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to find out if it worked until it's too late, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like you can't do that. And I saw where he
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  Speaker 1: was going. I saw what he was going for. And
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  Speaker 1: it was like... As you look around, and there's no
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  Speaker 1: worse feeling in this world from doing game theory, I
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  Speaker 1: realize this, right? Because, like, I think I'm funny, but
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  Speaker 1: it's fair to say I'm not quite a professional, right?
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  Speaker 1: Trying to get there. The biggest problem I'd have with
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  Speaker 1: being a professional, when you have your DMX moment, when
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  Speaker 1: a brother told a joke. And if people didn't laugh,
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  Speaker 1: it was the worst feeling in the world. Stephen A
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  Speaker 1: had that happening to him in real time. He's getting
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  Speaker 1: looks from everybody in front of him, but he's in
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  Speaker 1: too deep.
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  Speaker 2: He cannot stop.
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  Speaker 1: He has to keep going. And then they came and
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  Speaker 1: tried to give him a little, hey, we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to joke about that. And he was like, but I am.
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  Speaker 1: Hear me out.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone else is in such a bad spot, though, because
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  Speaker 2: you can't laugh. You also can't tell him to shut up. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't do what's probably best, which is this
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  Speaker 1: one right here. Just cover your face. Check your phone.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just be like, hey, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about something else. We're going to, you know, just right here. Hey, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's not talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Easy, easy, easy.
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  Speaker 1: Easy, big dog. Easy, easy, big dog. But anyway, we
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  Speaker 1: told jokes about somebody telling jokes that they should not
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  Speaker 1: have told, but we're not telling the joke. It's very delicate.
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  Speaker 1: It's a game. It's a line, but it ain't straight.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, right? That's what this is.
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  Speaker 1: All the same, Lane Johnson did stop playing football, which
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  Speaker 1: is not something that the Eagles had planned on on
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  Speaker 1: an offensive line that already is not as good as
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  Speaker 1: we have remembered it being, along with everything else that
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  Speaker 1: is going on. Me and Ryan talk all the time
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  Speaker 1: about how this team shouldn't be so entertaining and it
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't always, if it ain't one thing, it's another with them.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's another. And the Jalen Hurts talk feels
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  Speaker 1: like it's going to get louder. And it's, it's, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's who boy, they keep it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. They are better.
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  Speaker 1: They might be better for business than the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, they might be now. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that the entertaining point is interesting because they have reached
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  Speaker 2: a point where they're only entertaining like off the field, right?
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  Speaker 2: If you watch that Eagles-Rams game on Sunday, the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: had a touchdown drive of like less than 20 yards
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  Speaker 2: and a touchdown drive of like less than 40 yards.
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  Speaker 2: Other than that, it was punt, punt, punt, punt, punt,
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  Speaker 2: three and out, three and out. So like the drama
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  Speaker 2: has gotten to a point where it's, absolutely superseded the
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  Speaker 2: actual product on the field, which is never a good thing,
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  Speaker 2: you know? Because at least like when, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: had the A.J. Brown stuff where he was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: being A.J. Brown, for all good and all bad that
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  Speaker 2: that is, at least y'all were scoring points. Y'all were
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  Speaker 2: putting up touchdowns, and it was fun to watch. Like, I...
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  Speaker 2: If someday it's, like, a glimpse at what Lane Johnson-less
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  Speaker 2: offense looks like for the Eagles for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the season, that's, like, barely a watchable product. And, like,
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  Speaker 2: the Jalen Hurts noise, it's just gonna have to get louder,
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  Speaker 2: even though I kind of think he's just been this
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  Speaker 2: guy the whole time. And I don't... Like, see, I'm
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  Speaker 2: at the part with Jalen Hurts where I'm like... Okay, like,
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  Speaker 2: are we going to do this after every bad game
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  Speaker 2: he has? Because this is just kind of what he is.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the answer to the question is yes, because now
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  Speaker 1: is the time that they need a quarterback that is
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  Speaker 1: a value add. Or like you said.
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  Speaker 2: The other day, overcome. You know, can overcome the stuff
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  Speaker 2: around him.
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  Speaker 1: When they're really good, he can ride the wave. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: it appears that he might be drowning.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And this is where I was always kind of
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  Speaker 2: dubious of him. I was like, okay, obviously if you
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  Speaker 2: put a team around him, and I mean a really
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  Speaker 2: good team around him, you can get to two Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowls in four years and win one of them and
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  Speaker 2: almost win the other. And I still think that first
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl they played against Kansas City. It's one of the,
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the, it's probably the best game he's
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  Speaker 2: ever played in his career outside of like the, the
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  Speaker 2: fumble six. That was just a disaster. But ever since then,
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  Speaker 2: like he hit that peak and just kind of gotten
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  Speaker 2: down and down and down and down and down. And
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  Speaker 2: he's not really like the same rushy threat that he
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  Speaker 2: used to be. So you kind of watch these games
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  Speaker 2: and you're like, well, What do you do here, man? Like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not going to be like the rushing threat
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  Speaker 2: that we were, that could actually scare defenses, if you're
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  Speaker 2: not going to be this guy who's really going to
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  Speaker 2: throw in the run and be a big play threat,
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  Speaker 2: it just kind of becomes this nothing offense where, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not only do you have... what, 93 passing yards on Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: but he got sacked for 25 yards. So you had
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  Speaker 2: 68 total net passing yards for a whole game of football.
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  Speaker 2: Then he had last year, he had two separate games
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  Speaker 2: where he went a full half with zero passing yards.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just kind of what it is
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  Speaker 2: at this point. And I don't think that people have
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  Speaker 2: kind of caught up to, Oh no, like he's just
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  Speaker 2: a guy that you can win with if you have
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  Speaker 2: a really good team around him. But Like, to say
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  Speaker 2: that he's going to sit here and elevate the rest
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  Speaker 2: of this roster, I mean, he would have done that
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  Speaker 2: by now already. where it's not like we're new to
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  Speaker 2: Jalen hurts, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Let me throw some out here for you, um, about him.
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  Speaker 1: Cause he's 28 now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He's a sneaky, not that young guy anymore. You're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the rushing threat part. I am going to
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  Speaker 1: add up for you, um, rushing attempts and sacks between
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  Speaker 1: college and and the pros what do you think that number.
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  Speaker 2: Is who between college and the pros i mean it's
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  Speaker 2: it's probably like 1500 1600 it is 1609 whoa that's
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  Speaker 2: a good guess 1609 and that's before.
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  Speaker 1: We add in the postseason stuff okay um all i'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is that dude i took a that's miles.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's not he has not played like a
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  Speaker 1: Cam Newton career where that was basically the career arc
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  Speaker 1: of a running back just because of the nature of
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  Speaker 1: how they did it. And I imagine a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these carries are the booty play, you know, where they
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  Speaker 1: where he get up there and then he get up
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  Speaker 1: on somebody and somebody get up on his booty. And
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  Speaker 1: then they just be booty bumping all the way to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to get it in the hole, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: That certainly has been for a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of touchdowns I loved that moment that awkward moment
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  Speaker 1: of I couldn't tell if it was a delay like
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck am I supposed to say about that.
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  Speaker 2: No I think it was a little bit of a delay.
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  Speaker 1: On my end I was in the DMX zone I
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  Speaker 1: was looking up at you and I was like nah
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just let this sit let this make it
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  Speaker 1: make this a little worse.
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  Speaker 2: That was a delay on my end. The aging conversation
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  Speaker 2: is kind of funny sometimes. I think people don't realize
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  Speaker 2: how much time we have spent watching these guys play football.
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  Speaker 2: You brought it back to Jalen Hurts in college. That
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  Speaker 2: was like 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 1: This is the 11th year of us knowing who Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts is.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, like one of my buddies was texting
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  Speaker 2: me last week. He was like, yo, like what's up
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  Speaker 2: with Saquon Barkley? Like he's carried the ball 2000 times
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yo, it's like, it's crazy how people have completely
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  Speaker 1: forgotten how aging works that we have these outlier Tom Brady,
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  Speaker 1: LeBron James, like same thing with Aaron Rodgers at this point,
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is cooked. Why? Cause Aaron Rodgers is 43
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  Speaker 1: years old. What is he doing here? Unless you throw
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  Speaker 1: a knuckle ball, you're not supposed to still be throwing.
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  Speaker 2: No, Aaron's like he's not even having a good time anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, why are you here?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you here? Is barking at Mike McCarthy better
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  Speaker 2: than what you could have been doing?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at both of them. Like you guys
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  Speaker 1: both opted into this. Neither of you had to do this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it. But like sticking with the Eagles,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't see where– where this is supposed to
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  Speaker 2: get better this year. And it seems like they know
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to get better this year. Because anytime
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  Speaker 2: you see a GM that has job security that's able
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  Speaker 2: to plan for the future, they got two first-round picks
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  Speaker 2: next year. They got a second second-round pick now in 2028.
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  Speaker 2: after trading cam jurgens which look i know cam jurgens
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been good this year but that means someone worse
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  Speaker 2: than cam.
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  Speaker 1: Yo i was just thinking that your offensive line is
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  Speaker 1: not good and you traded an offensive lineman and howie
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  Speaker 1: roseman's thing was it's like we got four players for
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  Speaker 1: one but what about right.
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  Speaker 2: Now right now right yeah well right now i i
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  Speaker 2: think they're kind of i think at least howie is
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  Speaker 2: saying and look you can say oh you know we're
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  Speaker 2: we're in on this year our goals for this year
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  Speaker 2: haven't changed but bro look at this team Yes, they have.
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  Speaker 2: They obviously have.
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  Speaker 1: Well, tell me this. How is their defense this year?
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  Speaker 1: Because I feel like all we and we mean people
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  Speaker 1: on my like my my portion of this industry. We
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  Speaker 1: spend so much time talking about the offense. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a great handle on what this defense is. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't look like the defense that didn't rush Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: but it still looked like they had 15 people on
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  Speaker 1: the field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were getting better. I think maybe they just
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  Speaker 2: had some roughs earlier in the season where they weren't
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  Speaker 2: playing all that well, or at least not up to
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  Speaker 2: their standard. But I mean, last week against the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: that was the only reason why they were able to
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  Speaker 2: stay in that game and able to get some of
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  Speaker 2: those touchdown drives that were right next to the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: That is the only way they can score these touchdowns now.
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  Speaker 2: So I think the defense will probably be pretty good
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  Speaker 2: by the end of the season, which means you're You're playing, like,
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  Speaker 2: the worst brand of football. Good defense, bad offense. Like,
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  Speaker 2: every game is just going to be an absolute rock fight. And, like,
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  Speaker 2: to their credit, it took Matthew Stafford, like, what, like,
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  Speaker 2: 52 attempts to get to 24 points last week. And
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  Speaker 2: if you just got anything from the offense, they probably
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  Speaker 2: would have won that game. So I think the defense
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  Speaker 2: will probably get better. Definitely not as stalwart as they
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  Speaker 2: used to be. But, like... The Eagles, if you just
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  Speaker 2: look at their drive chart from that game, they had
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  Speaker 2: a field goal drive that was 12 plays, 29 yards.
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  Speaker 2: How is that possible? That's what I'm saying. I don't
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  Speaker 2: get it. All they're doing is punting and field goals,
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  Speaker 2: and if they can get the ball on the 20-yard line,
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  Speaker 2: maybe they can score a touchdown. But right now, I'm
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  Speaker 2: worried for Eagles fans because I don't know if they
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  Speaker 2: can handle something that's going to look this ugly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, have you seen the Sirianni? They're only going to London.
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  Speaker 1: They're tally-hoing this weekend, and they're not leaving until Friday
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  Speaker 1: to get there. And All I'm saying is this. The Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: they tally-ho every year. I would probably just do what
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  Speaker 1: they do. Now, I generally don't think do as the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars do is an appropriate team-building mantra. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, I feel like if they get in there early,
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  Speaker 1: you should probably get there early. And I'm looking at Sirianni,
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  Speaker 1: who is so easy to question. Just everything about him.
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  Speaker 1: He begs for your skepticism. If I was a man
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  Speaker 1: like that, you can't be making decisions for so much
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  Speaker 1: based on outside noise. But if I was him, this
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: is some noise that I don't necessarily need. Let's just
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: go a little bit earlier, right? He really don't care
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: what we think.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't at all. He got his big security
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: guard walking around him all the time. Like, that's not
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the weirdest thing in the world. Big Dom's the only
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: security guy in the NFL that I actively know who
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: they are, but I guess that's what Sirianni's program is
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: all about. The only thing, like, I used to be
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: kind of like a not... contrarian pro sirianni but just
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: like bro they've won so many games like he's got
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to be good at something and then you just watch
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: the you and then you actually watch like the actual
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: games and it's just it's just dysfunctional and now now
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: like he's he's kind of in the same boat as
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: jalen hurts although i think people have been out on
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: sirianni for a while which is wild to say like
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a team that has had this much success where you
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: got to two superbowls in four years you you had
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: you You force Patrick Mahomes to play the worst game
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: of his life, maybe, like, going back to college, too,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and no one's like, man, this head coach and quarterback, like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: they really got it. Like, this is something you can
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: build around for a long time. But the Sirianni stuff,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I just don't... I don't really know anymore, like, what
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: he does, because he doesn't call plays. He never... He
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: didn't even call plays with the Colts when he was, like, hired.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: So he was, like, hired as a non-play calling OC. Then,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: you know, they hired Sean Mannion this year, which is, like, why?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Why did he.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I know he was like, he was like their fourth
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: or fifth choice for the job, which says enough in
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: its own right. Cause if this team was like actually good,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: this team was actually in a good place. You would
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: think you would have people lining up to go take
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that job. Cause I mean, Kellen Moore got a head
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: coach job off of it. They had right. They had.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: players at some point but i think i think it's
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: just gotten to be so bad that howie is kind
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: of looking at like all right maybe we eat it
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: this year y'all might not have job security but i
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: got job security so we're gonna figure out what's going
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: on after this season's up.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Uh by the way you mentioned weird things i'm curious
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: your take on this because i found that i have
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: an outlier opinion on something that i thought i would
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: have people behind me on um An NFL owner on
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the sideline with a headset asking people questions during the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: game is weird to me. I've never seen anything like
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it before. I would hate it if I was trying
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to do my job and the boss is asking me
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: how this thing works. There has to be another way
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to learn the game. Now, it appears Steve Holder has
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: written about this. Other people have that people with the Colts,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: they say they're OK with it. They say it runs smooth. Okay,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: that's fine. But we have got to get out of
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: this world where there's something wrong with you for thinking
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: that this looks a bit meddlesome. If they can handle it,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: that's fine. I know. I'm trying to imagine if my
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: CEO was sitting next to Ryan, tapping him on the shoulder,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: asking him, all right, so what's that hand signal he
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just gave you? Oh, okay. But I just don't know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: If I look now, I, I, the, the, the funny
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: thing to me where, uh, and I, I don't really
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: have a, I don't, I don't, I, I, I look,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's strange too. Like I don't see any
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: other owners doing this. Um, you know, if this is
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: how she wants to learn about the game, she, I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: guess she's on to check. So yeah. That's fine. But
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I do think it's funny. And not to poo-poo on
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: anyone's reporting, but if I was Shane Steigen and somebody
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: asked me that I knew was going to go to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the public and give my response to this, yeah. I'm
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: cool with that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Of course. Of course.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I'm cool with that. I don't think that what he
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: says actually matters all that much. You can make your
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: own decision about like how you feel about, you know, uh, uh, uh,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I forget her name, Carly or say Gordon. Yeah. On the,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines. Um, I, but like, there's no other
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: owner doing it, you know, there's no, and that's why
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it's worth pointing out. Like, Hey, that's, that's, that's different.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: You know, it's different than we normally see.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Is this misogyny is a fair question. Um, Yes, I agree.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: To start off with that question, it's fair. I have
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: seen multiple people on the internet say, more people have
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: something to say about this than an owner getting caught
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: for prostitution.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And I'm like.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. First of all, what's your algorithm? Because
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: we had quite a time with that, number one. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: number two, I'm telling you right now, if they put
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: his ass on the sideline every week and had the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: camera on him, you would see prostitution jokes every week.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Every week.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Especially if he was picking up the prostitute every week.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: You would hear about it every week. Every week, this
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: thing that seems a little odd. I don't see anybody
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: really mad about it. Just as much like, I don't
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: think I'd like that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's different. And, like, also, like, I remember when... And,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: you know, she's not, like, quite the first owner, because
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I remember, like, Tom Brady had a headset on.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I guess he got a pass because he's Tom Brady.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: But even then, I was like, what?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: We asked questions about that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: We did ask questions about that. I was like, that's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: a little strange.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And he's in the booth.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: He's in the booth, right. He's in the booth. He's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: an owner of the team. He's not a coach. He's
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: not a player. Why is he on the headset? Like,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: what's he actually doing? So I do think in that sense, like,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it's fair to bring the same questions here. But people
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: got mad and they started throwing around, you know. Some
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: accusations at people.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm saying, it's perfectly, it's a fair question.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Their question about whether misogyny is fair. It's a legitimate
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: discussion to be had that doesn't really require casting judgment
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: on anyone. She just wants to learn. See, to me,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that's patronizing. Right? Like the, how else is she supposed
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: to learn the game? Charles, did you learn the game
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: by standing on an NFL sideline and asking questions at
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the same time?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: No, but you can ask questions at any other time.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is that we're all about a
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: thirst for knowledge here, right? That's kind of how this
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: show works. You just ain't got to do it while
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: they're at the job. You know what it feels like?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It feels like a ride-along. The new mayor doing a ride-along.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's going great. We love this.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: We love having the mayor. And new cops are in
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: there like, Look, man, we're going to have to go
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: fuck this dude up over here. Can you keep the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: mayor over there while we, you know, excuse me, Mr.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: or Madam Mayor. we got to go handle something. You
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to know about this.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Right. Like what you don't need to do is stick
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: it ahead in the blue tent. Hey, what you guys
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: doing in here?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: The thing is like, you're never going to get a
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: fully honest answer from, from anyone. Like she, she, she
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: signs their texts, bro. Why, why would I tell the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: truth about how I actually feel about that?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: It's fine. And, and like, honestly, the truth is it
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: probably doesn't impact any, uh, decision over the course of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: a game no like if she if she's learning like
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: what this stuff is and obviously she's not in a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: space to say hey shane like you need to do
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: this call this player or run this personnel but she's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: still there you know and that that is a different
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: work environment than the other coaches are.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: It's it doesn't appear to be desirable i think but
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: they say it's okay i don't think i would like
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it i think we're all safe there right teach tweets
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: around uh now changing gears we got seattle and uh
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: san francisco coming up this guy where are you right
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: now on the uh 49ers because i think they played
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: what i considered their first real game last week and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: they won um oh by the way sean payton finally
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: did you have week five on your card.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be around week four
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: or week five.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, week five. And for those who haven't heard, Sean Payton,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: let me get the sticks back. He has told Davis
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Webb to pass the sticks, and he will get back
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to calling the plays.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a little bit of a... well maybe
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a craving point of view on that i i and
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this is this could be completely wrong but i'm just
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: throwing out my theory here uh because it seemed like
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: davis webb was going to leave if he wasn't able
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: to call plays this year was this just sean just
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: like getting around i don't feel like hiring a new
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator yeah i'll let you get the keys for
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a few games oh you're trapped here and now no
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: one wants to hire you you know because i've gone
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and pulled the kid you're the new car michael new
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: pete carmichael right that's exactly what he needed his new
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: pete carmichael he had.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: All these offense guys who never called plays dan campbell
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: was on that same list there i.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Forgot about pete carmichael yeah that he's got his new
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: pete carmichael where you say go ahead and sit there
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: for about 10 15 years you're gonna make a whole
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: lot of money but like This is it for you.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And Pete seemed okay with that because I'm pretty sure
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Pete's still coaching.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's still in New Orleans, right?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I know he's the offensive coordinator for Buffalo now.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: With Joe Brady. Joe Brady's like, I need an offensive
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: coordinator who's okay with not calling plays.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Pete said that you got my routing info, right?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right. He's like, you know what? That
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: sounds like stress. That just sounds like a lot of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: stress that I don't need.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But with Seattle, I think it's worth noting Seattle, the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: game they lost. They lost it in large part because
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Stan Darnold was not playing particularly well in that game
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: against Washington. There is a ceiling on that guy, no
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: matter what anybody tries to tell me. There's there. But
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: they still feel like bosses. This is still the team
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl last year. How do you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: think this one goes? They got the game at home.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Man, this is tough. Because the 49ers, that offense is...
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It's insane right now. And, like, they also got, you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit more, like, a continued, like, proof that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: this works to a high level going against Denver last week,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: which their defense has had a tough... I would say
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: they have a tough test of offense to start the season.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, Jacksonville, the Rams, and then the 49ers for
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Denver to start the season.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think, like, any numbers you see necessarily reflect, like, oh, like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: this defense has really fallen off. Still a good unit. Like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: they still can give teams some headaches. And the fact
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that the 49ers were able to do this while not
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: being at full power is kind of really impressive. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I get worried about the injuries sometimes, but so far, like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: they still have most of their main guys that are
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to be here on the team. They've had some
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: injuries at wide receiver, but... He's still got Kittle, still
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: got Mike Evans out there. Debo Samuel looks like 80%
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: of what he used to be the last time he
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: was in here, which is obviously still a really useful player.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I think I'm just kind of at the point with
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan where it's like, I trust you to score
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: against just about every team, but then also Seattle did
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: absolutely hammer them when they played them last year. And
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just in the playoffs. It's also at the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: end of the season too. And I think there is
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: a lot to say about the Seattle front on defense
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: specifically where they're like, they're just going to beat the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: crap out of every one they play. And while like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: like the 49ers, like they got a good scheme and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: we got like some quality players up front. Obviously Trent
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Williams is great. It's not like the total cohesive unit
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: that you would need to actually just blow these guys
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: off the ball. So I, I think it could still
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: get buddy for the 49ers and where that scares me
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: is I, I'm not a believer in this 49ers defense.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: really like at all. I think Arizona kind of exposed
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: them on the flip side and, and Sam Donald, he
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: hasn't had a, he hasn't had like a perfect season,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: but that scheme is really good. And obviously Jason is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: really good. So I think that they have enough to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: score a whole bunch of points on the 49ers defense.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I still think Seattle is a better team overall, but
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Kyle man, Kyle's in his bag right now. Like I,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I get and see why they're four. No, but I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: still think Seattle might be a class above them just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: because they can play with level of physicality that, The
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: 49ers don't always do.
• 28:08
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• 31:02
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• 31:04
  Speaker 2: You didn't feel nothing on Monday? You didn't feel nothing?
• 31:05
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• 31:11
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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• 32:30
  Speaker 2: sticks out with me, like from a... Sunday night was
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: a play where he was dead to rights in the backfield.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: As soon as he gets the ball, he just jukes.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Then he's up the field and he jukes again and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: he jukes again. I'm like, how are you moving that
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: fast that many times in a phone booth? You look
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: up and he's 10 yards downfield. What I think was
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: cool about him is he just seems to be getting
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: better every single year. There's no... there hasn't been like,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: sometimes you'll see like this running backs, like they'll start
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: hot and they hit a bunch of carries and you're like,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Oh man, we had like a fun three years, but
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: this looks like it has like some real staying power for,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: for a long time. Like this was like, I didn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: blink when he got that contract extension. I was like, man, he's,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: it feels like he's underpaid. Like when I watch a play,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: it feels like he's not making enough money, man. I
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: like after that game on Monday, I felt high, like
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: actually high. Like I, I, I couldn't go to bed
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: until maybe like 1 o'clock in the morning. I was
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: just watching the highlights over and over and over again.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: And it's just special. Like, anytime you can go in there, like...
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: on that day, you know, the anniversary of Katrina, which
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: is obviously, you know, a horrible event.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Different days mean different things to different people.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: People, right. And also the anniversary has kind of become
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: its own anniversary because the 10-year anniversary featured a 45-32
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Falcons win. The 20-year anniversary featured a 45 to 24
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Falcons win. So maybe the 30-year will be 45 to
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: 16 Falcons if we're just going to keep dropping it
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: down by eight. It feels good. It feels good to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: know that you can make your worst rival feel horrendous
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: on a day that means a lot to them. So
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I was really beaming after that game. It felt really good.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: And I also think it's funny that you are also
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: in a large sect of former Falcons fans, which Grew
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: a lot after 28-3, rightfully so.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I was ahead of that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: You were ahead of that, for sure. But that don't
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: watch the Falcons anymore, but still hate the Saints. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it's funny that how many people are in that bucket.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I'm so mad that I forgot to tweet out the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: paper bag during that game. You know what I'm saying?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Though I do have a friend of mine. She a
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Saints fan. And one time I sent her the paper bag,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and she responded by sending me, The photo shoot that
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Jim Brown did for Playgirl magazine, which I thought was
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: not an apples to apples comparison. I didn't think that
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: that was the appropriate response, but I'll tell you this.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I ain't sent her that paper bag since. I mean,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I also just want to throw it out there that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: she just keeps those pictures on her phone, which I
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: don't think that she was doing just because Bobani might
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: antagonize me about the Saints. I didn't think that's what
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: it is. I will say two things about Bijan and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the Falcons. One, Bijan was in the same draft as
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Jameer Gibbs, and both of those picks were pilloried, I
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: would say, by much of the NFL community, primarily the dorks.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: because the idea was they have drafted these running backs
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: too high, and you were wrong on both of those dorks.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: This has worked out very well for both teams. You
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: happily extended both of these guys as soon as the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: opportunity presented itself.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked Bijon a lot in college. My Gibbs
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: thing was I was like, bro, is this guy going
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to carry the ball like 200, 300 times in a season?
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: The answer is yes.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I get their logic. I
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: don't want to pretend as though I don't understand where
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they was coming from. But anyway, Bijan to me was
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: like Todd Gurley. And I don't care about the arthritis
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: on Todd Gurley.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: That was a pick. Is Bijan better than Todd Gurley?
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think I'm a Georgia fan. I'm a
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Georgia fan. I'll say that right now.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I think Gurley is one of those guys that's being forgotten. Right.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Because like to me on the list of Georgia running backs, which,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: by the way, is an absurd list. That's easy to
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: forget is an absurd list. Yeah. To me, it's Herschel.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: It's Gurley. And then you get to, like, Garrison Hurst.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Then you get to everybody else, right? But, like.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb's up there, too.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: He's up there. I mean, Rodney Hampton's up there. Tim
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Worley's up there. There's a lot of them. Poor Musa
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Smith can't even get in the room.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: No Sean Marino had a nice little run, too.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. He's nowhere... Like, the guys that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: can't even get on this... The others receiving votes for
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Georgia is nuts. But the fact... Bijan, to me, is
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a similar type player than Gurley. And the fact that
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: we're even there, for me, is a, like, okay. But
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: my number two thing is... I think there was room
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: for a lot of skepticism about Stefanski leaving Cleveland because
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: of how poor they had been those last couple of years.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is if all it takes to
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: make this offense work is Michael Pennix, then maybe Stefanski
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: plus this combination of guys that we all thought may
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: have been overdrafted a little bit is going to be okay. Like,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: cause I'm not there with Pennix. I'm not, I don't
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: think he's bad, but I think he's a guy.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: No, right. I think Penix is... And it's funny because
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago I said, man, I don't give a
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: crap about this Michael Penix thing. If this comes to
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: a season where they go 2-15 and both wins are
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: against the Saints, I'll take that. I'll take that. Because
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: I thought, man, this offense just needs a competent quarterback.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And what happened the first two weeks was... I remember
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I was going back and I was watching the games.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like... because I saw people, you know, complain about
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the scheme when Cooper Rush was starting. I was like,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I'm watching the games like, man, this scheme is fine.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Like there's open guys like all over the place, but
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the quarterback play is so bad. Like you're not getting
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: to it. Like the one, there's one play that really
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: sticks out my mind from the, the Panthers game where
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: they lost 34 to three. And it's like clean pocket.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: There's no pressure. Kyle Pitts is wide open along the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: right sideline. And he had the skyscraper to go get
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the ball. He's six, six, bro. Like, why does he
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: have to go full extension when he's not covered and
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: there's no pressure? Like, that should be hit him right
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: in the chest and we're running. Like, it's really just, like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: that's how bad Cooper Rush was. And quite honestly, like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that's how bad the quarterback play in Cleveland was last year,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: where you're just trying... Like, the reason why I like
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the hires is because they were just... They were finding
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: any way they possibly could to move the ball. And
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: most of that was through screens with, like, Quinshawn Jenkins
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and the other running backs. But at some point, you
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: need somebody to hit a throw, somebody to drop back
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and make a throw downfield. And that's something that Michael
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Panks can do. Is it always going to land in
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the right spot? No. But on Monday, it did. So
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: we can work with that. And I think I don't
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: want people to get too far ahead of themselves with
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Pennix because this has only been two games. And the
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: large sample size, when you look at the whole totality
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: of his Falcons run, has been pretty bad. And he's
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: only played, I think, 14 or 15 games at this
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: point due to sitting behind Kirk Cousins and then getting
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: hurt last year. So there's still a long way to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: go with that. But I think it does show that
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you know, this guy, like, he wanted, coach of the
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: year awards. He's not, he's not clueless, you know, he
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: might not be the best coach ever, but he's not,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: he's not a Bozo. And I, okay. No, no, no, no.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: He was a Bozo when he made that John Watson
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: trade in Cleveland.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, I don't know if he did that,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but I got to be part of that. I'm not
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: sure if he did that. I will put it that way.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: But the problems Stefanski had is that much of what
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: we will call the Atlanta Falcons demographic had a gripe
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: against him.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Because that's all that was.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: And i want and i do wonder this is the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: fans he knew that atlanta was going to be his
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: next stop would he have tried a little harder push
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the door just to make his life a little bit
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: easier because they was going to lose regardless you know
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: what i'm saying.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: See no i remember i came on this show and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: i said i wasn't surprised that the fans he went
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to atlanta because there's only one other team that couldn't
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: ask him yo why'd you do what was up with
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: that deshaun watson that was crazy Because.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: The Falcons were in on it too.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: They tried so hard. They tried so hard to get
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. So I'm pleased. And I really think the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: part of the Falcons fan base... For like 10 years,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I've been calling these people... Dez Bryant Twitter you know
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: like where it's just you know if you've seen Dez
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Bryant's Twitter account you kind of get what he's about
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: and I think that a lot of our brothers and
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: sisters can fall like somewhere in that bucket right where
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you're just like I don't know if I I definitely
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: agree with you that there is racism but I'm not
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: sure I agree with you on what the racism actually
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: is you know yeah I need people.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: To stop doing that by the way because I find
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: myself having to give that answer far too much And
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I don't like how it makes me feel.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You feel, right? Like, bro, I saw a post that
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: said Kevin Stefanski was buck-breaking Shador Sanders. I'm like, bro,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: do you know what that means?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I was like, I don't like how... Do
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: you know what that means? I don't like how... Like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: for example, when I had the little baby face situation.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: They was getting mad at me because Ryan's face would
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: come up on the screen and they were like, he
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: talking to a white man about it. I'm like, God damn,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I signed the checks. Y'all ain't happy with that? Like, like, like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: what are we? I mean, I don't, I don't sign. Well,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I kind of do actually. Yeah. Like when it gets
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: down to the bottom of it, I'm like, damn, we got,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: we have a white man lower than me in the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: hierarchy and I can't even, I can't ask him a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: question to make the show run.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, that's right.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't like how that feels. I don't
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: like being put in that position.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And I don't like, I don't like like defending Kevin
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Savansky against like Shador Sanders.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Cause honestly, I don't care about Shador Sanders.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It's not that interesting.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't like how it feels.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: So that's why I keep getting stuck. I'm like, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: was trying to explain in, like, the nicest way possible.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I gave up after a while. I'm like, bro, like,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: this is someone that the Falcons should try to hire, like,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: if it comes to it. Just because the Raheem Morris stuff,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: it got so sloppy at a certain point. And, you know,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: while I've been telling my friends, like, you just needed
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: to get somebody competent under center is because, like, we've
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: seen Kevin Stefanski do this before with, like, Baker Mayfield.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, Baker Mayfield has... I think a lot of
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: people think Baker may feels a lot better than he is.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's certainly competent enough, like running offense that can
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: score points. If you got pieces around them, I think
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Pennix is probably in the same bucket. Will you hit
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: a wall with this? Yeah. I don't know how the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: playoffs are going to look if they could make it
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that far. I mean, there's, there's only two and two.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: So there's a ways to go, but the past two
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: weeks is the most fun I've had. watching the Falcons
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: play in a long, long time. And it also does
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: bring you back to, you know, a conversation that I
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: was having with my coworker, Daniel Popper here, where we
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: were talking about like, like what the dolphins should do with,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the draft pick next year. And I'm like,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: what do you mean? They're going to take a quarterback.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Like if they're going to have the first pick in draft,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: they're going to take a quarterback. And what I was saying,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, I watch a team with B. John
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Robinson and Drake London that can't score.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: You know, like, like they, they didn't even get to
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: the red zone until panics came back two games, zero
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: red zone plays, not even drives. Like they didn't even
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: get close. So like as, as fun as the, the,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you know, the Bijon stuff is, and he's fantastic. He
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: has some, some nice runs in both of those games.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Obviously all this stuff opened up when you had someone
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that could just throw the ball downfield. And I'm sure
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: like you're going to have games where panics can't hit anything,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: but when it looks like it did on Monday, it's
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: pretty fun. Cause at least he's got a bazooka, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: like it's, it's, it's fun to watch. I had a
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: blast on Monday and now Lamar, Lamar Jackson's out on Sunday.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I was about to say they get a home, they
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: get a home game. It's Snoop Hundley. The Falcons could
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: be three and two.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: They're going red top black pants two on Sunday.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy. I'm back. I'm back. They got you. They
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: got you. They got you. By the way, good chance
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that the Browns are going to wind up being four
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and one.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: They get to play against the Jets. Again, things that
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: don't make me feel very good. Talking about Eric Glenn.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I got nasty D over here. I got Eric Glenn who,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: oh man, this is not going well at all.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: No, no. And I think what has become sadly like
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: apparently clear for the Jets this year is Aaron Glenn
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: is kind of holding them back. Yeah, because they have enough.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Because honestly, I think the Jets, they're kind of... They're
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: kind of like the poster boy right now for... Yo,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that tanking shit sounds fun until you're doing it.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: You know? Until you're going out there every Sunday knowing, yo,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: we're about to lose, like, 45-6. And we're just going
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: to eat this on the chin. So, like, they went
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: in this offseason and they signed basically a bunch of adults. Like,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Minka Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith. Like, real credible NFL players. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: those guys, like, have been big improvements for them to
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the point that I can see, man, Aaron... I don't
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: think that this is– it's the game management stuff, which
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: is really, really bad. The timeouts, like, man, just count
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: to three, man.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Man, but that is so interesting. To me, that is game– like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: clock management is such an intuitive thing that clearly– so, like,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in this business, I don't remember if I've done this
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: comp here, but an amorphous sort of skill in this
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: business is reading a teleprompter. Some people just can't do it.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And what is it? It's reading. That's all it is,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: but it's reading and the thing is moving at the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: same time. So you kind of need to go over
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and down and there's lines and there's levels and all
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: this stuff. But at the end of the day, it's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: just reading. And I know very intelligent people who just
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: can't read a teleprompter. or can't read and update as
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a radio producer or things like that. And it's not
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: because they're not smart. It's just the thing that they
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: can't do. Andy Reid is awful with the clock, for example.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Still awful.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Still to this day. They got so good that we
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: stopped talking about it. But it's one of those things.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Some people are bad at it. And if you're going
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: to be bad at that, you better be Andy Reid
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and be good at everything else because you're bad at
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the things that we can see. I think there are
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of coaches that are good at the things
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that happen in practice, the things we can't see. Eric
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Glenn is awful at all the things that we can see,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: including press conferences. He's just really bad.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: At press conferences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a great situation.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: It's not a great situation. And, like, Andy, like, he's
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: still doing, even a couple weeks ago against the Colts, like,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: he could have ended that game before it went to overtime. And, no,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: they just sat on the timeouts. And I think that
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: that's one of the funniest things to me because you'll
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: hear a You hear people like, oh, you know, why
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: don't they just hire a game management coach? They do.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: They do. They just don't listen to that motherfucker.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: You know why? Because if it goes wrong and I
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: come to the podium, what I'm going to say?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yo, it was that guy.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: That's not my job. What you mean that's not your job?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: It's not my job. We outsourced that. We got some
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: dude in Mumbai on a computer. We sent that job
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: over to India. Yeah.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Bro, and they'll give you all the information you need.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: You know, they'll drill you on, hey, in this situation,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: you should use, like, the two-minute warning as, like, your
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: fourth time out, kind of. And then when it comes
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: down to the game, there's, like... What's that nerd got
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: to do with what we've got going on here?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Or the four down decisions too, yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That nerd doesn't have to answer for it. Like so
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: many of these decisions that people like acting like life
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: is bad, you do all kinds of stuff where you
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: don't have to answer any questions about it. Now, granted,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: should those questions dictate your behavior? Probably not. However, in
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: real life, I got to answer for this. Right. Like
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I'm the one that's got to stand behind it. Nah, man,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: not going to happen. I do want to ask you this.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Why we, before we get too far along in this
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Monday night, um, All you guys in the secondary, you're
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: going to have a long day, but it could be
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: your lucky day because on one side is Josh Allen
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and on the other side is Matthew Stafford. You will
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: have opportunities to put a little something on them incentives, right?
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: You also might get lit up for a few hundo
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in the course of this game. I am very intrigued
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: by this one because the Rams, I said before the year,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I said this about them. I
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: know I definitely said this about the Sixers, that they
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: had Eagles dream team potential. You remember the Eagles dream team? Yeah.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I remember the Eagles.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, there's potential for that.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: And the Rams are looking kind of like that, right?
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett hurt. Aaron Donald old and things going there.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: The offense ain't really humming like we thought. And then meanwhile,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo, it's amazing, boy. When Josh is humming, it's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: all good. Josh do Josh stuff. And then I go
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: pull up that pull up that turnover package. Yeah, yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Look on the desktop. Yeah, that's the folder right there.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: It's always ready.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this is kind of those other thing.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Another thing where we were talking about Jalen Hurts earlier.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: And it's like, man, whatever. Like I've watched so many
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: of these games replays like this. I don't really get myself.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like myself getting charged up about it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of the same way with Josh to Allen turnovers. Like,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: and especially with, with Josh, I'm like, what are we
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: going to do? We're going to bench him.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: We're here now.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: We're here now. We're locked in. Like he's one of
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league. He's going to make
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: it to the hall of fame and you're going to
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: have to eat like a handful of plays per game
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: where you're like, what the fuck were you thinking? Like,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: what was that?
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Again, Stafford's the same way. Right.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: And Stafford, like, low-key, like, I think you can see
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: this year, man, he's getting old. It's getting old. He's
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: missing some throws that he used to hit that used
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: to be kind of automatic for him. But with Josh,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: the Texans game week one, perfect example. The final two
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: plays of the game where you had Kamari Lassiter. Josh
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: threw a perfect pass to Houston Texans cornerback Kamari Lassiter.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: It hit him right in the hands, and he dropped it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And then what did he do the next play? the
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: post right up the middle split the safety right missile
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: right down the middle for a touchdown then let them
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: win the game uh and you're gonna you you will
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: you will live with that because you're gonna get more
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: of the highs for the most part um and i
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: think in this game like man i think the bills
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: are kind of in trouble because that secondary is not
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: in great shape right now not in great shape at
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: all so we're gonna see a lot of points but
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: also like Stafford at this point, if you can get
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: pressure on him, he's not moving. That's a spot where
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: he's not as spry as he used to be. He
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: has the healing chambers to come fix his back outside
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: of the Rams facility. But still, I think they're in
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: a spot where probably going to see a lot of
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: points in this one. Going to see a lot of turnovers.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: This is probably going to be a pretty fun game.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: going on Monday night. But the Josh Allen stuff, I'm
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: having fun with it as someone who doesn't root for
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: the Bills. If I root for the Bills, I'd be like, man,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you're so much better than some of the slop that
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: you put out. But what are you going to do?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Bench him?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: It's like me and Russell Westbrook. I never had to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: root for him. Therefore, he could be my favorite player.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, boy, I wish he wouldn't have done that. Oh, well,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: moving on. Giants. Who Giants played? Oh, Giants played the Commandos.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: How long are they going to keep winning games with Giants?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Is it just as long as they keep playing bombs?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about it. That's about it. I mean, the
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Cowboys won week one. That looks a little funny, I think, now.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's irrelevant. The quarterback they had is not playing.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, that's a great point. I forgot that Jackson
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: started playing that game. And then, like, the Titans game,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: that was crap. And last week against the Cardinals, I think.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: The defense played pretty well. I thought Jameis, while his
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: stat line kind of looked okay, still did not play
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: that well. I think it's kind of tough for them
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: when they're wasting as many yards. giving it to camp
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: waste as many plays as they give it to camp
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: scataboo like as they do like you got jamis you guys.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: They won't you but like but see that's where i'm
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: with the giants like like my giants fans friends like
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: you you guys like this like i know you're three
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: in one but like is that all that matters just
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: three in.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: One look is that it i i know enough about
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the giants history we all do and all i'm saying
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: is If they're going to get stuck playing Jameis, then
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: damn it, they're going to get a ball to Scatterboo.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? If they're going to have
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: to try Jameis out here, they're going to have to
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: get a ball to Scatterboo. They're afraid people are going
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: to stop buying season tickets.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Have you looked at his numbers this year, Cam Scatterboo?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I have not. No, go on. Take a look and
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: see what Mr. Battery Ram is up to right now
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: for the Giants. that's not that's not good at all
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: he's on pace for almost 300 carries in less.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Than a thousand yards you won't talk about somebody riding
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: that dei wave not that he doesn't deserve his job
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: but he is definitely there's a novelty effect there's no
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: question of the novelty situation there yeah if he could
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: just be a little bit better boy they make him
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: into john riggins.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: And going back to to the quarterback Jameis is the
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: one that gets to be the guy that gets to
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: start all these games for the Giants, you know? He's
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: placating it to a certain type of a palette, I think.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I can't tell how in on this he is. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: can't tell how in on the joke he is.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know how any... It doesn't seem like he's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: having fun right now. And he also looks like he
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: didn't lift a weight all summer while he was doing
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: World Cup coverage. But I digress.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of any of the Jameis.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: It is... Oh my God, it's so much. Here's the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: thing though. Do the Giants understand that Jameis is their
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: guy all year? Because he's still better than... J.J.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: McCarthy.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess they have to. I thought
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that that trade was just kind of more Harbaugh brothers
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: sharing stuff.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: They keep doing it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: They keep doing it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, can you do me a solid, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, yeah,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I need you. Okay.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said all this stuff about J.J. McCarthy before
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the draft, and if he's, like, out of the league, like,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: that would kind of bat on me, bro.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Well, what if Jim is like, look, man, you got
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to keep Willie. If you get to have Willie, then
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: you got to do this for me. For those who
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: don't know, Willie Taggart is Jack Harbaugh, the dad Harbaugh.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Willie Taggart's his favorite player as long as there's a
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh in the league. And I think that Jim recruited
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: him to Western Kentucky.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I think so, yeah.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: As long as a Harbaugh has a job, Willie Taggart
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: will also have a job. And I can imagine the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: two of them fighting over who got to have Willie.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, they love him with some Willie Taggart,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: some Greg Roman. Yes. They both had Mike McDonald because
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald was at the Ravens and Michigan.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: But hold on, think about this. After John Harbaugh leaves
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and goes to New York, who do the Ravens hire?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Jesse Mentor and who? A Jim Harbaugh guy.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yep. Jesse, who also used to coach for the Ravens. Yes! So, yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: another guy who coached for both Harbaugh's. That's why I
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: like mentor a lot, but I think the one thing
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: that happened to me, I was like, hmm. I was like, man,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: this is not all that different than what you were
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: doing before. But, I mean, they're on a different time,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I think, with that offense. Once they get Lamar back
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: and if they can get Zay Flowers to just consistently
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: stay in the lineup down the stretch, like... they're gonna
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: score a lot of points but you know the giants
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: man they're they're they're three and one and they could
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: be four and one and i guess that that's something
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: right i hope about but even when you look at
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: some of uh like they're they're they're projected like playoff
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: chances still not that high even though they're three and
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: one and leading the division i think people kind of
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: look at this like it's funny money as you probably should.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah last thing right fast um can the packers beat
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the bears with the bears playing tyson.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Bajan i don't think so And see, that is another
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: reason why I'm trying not to get too ahead of
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: myself on this Falcon stuff because the Packers look awful.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, like last week, Jalen Daniels, who, I mean,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I liked watching that Kansas.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Like he's a fun little guy.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: What'd I say?
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: No, no, you did say Jalen. I'm just making sure
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: that people know.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels, not to be confused with J.D.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Daniels.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Jalen Daniels, the backup quarterback, undrafted rookie for Tampa Bay.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: For an undrafted rookie, he looked like okay, which I
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: think is a really bad sign for the Packers, you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: because he was a guy who, Jalen, he was a
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: guy who's supposed to maybe come out like a few
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: years ago but didn't quite pan out and then he
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: ended up playing some extra years and like kind of
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: got together his last year at kansas but certainly not
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: a guy where you're like oh man like we're we're
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: barely scraping by against him in the nfl game in
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: his first start no no no that that's that's a
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: bad sign so i think like like what you saw
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: from uh case keaton and the eagles in that game,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I think we're probably going to see something pretty similar.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's on another level, and Tyson Bates is certainly
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: good enough to just throw it to wide-open guys if
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: that's what the Packers are going to allow, like they
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: did against the Falcons, you know?
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: The Packers just can't block.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: No, they can't. Yeah, that's the biggest thing. Their offensive
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: line is really, really... like in shockingly bad shape considering
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: the organization like they because they've always had you know
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: a handful of guys that you trust up there but
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: now that uh zach oh becco bewele i think is
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: his last name now he tours patella tendon uh uh
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: early in the season back has been bad everyone on
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the interior is bad and like the one thing that
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: was crazy about the the falcons game i remember is
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: it was week three and jordan love seemed like punch
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: drunk on the season And then I looked at how
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: many times he got hit and he was at almost
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: like 35, 40 quarterback hits through three games. I was like, shoot,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: he's getting lit up back there. And like quarterback hits,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: like those, those defenders have gotten a little bit scared
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: of just lighting up the quarterbacks. Like if you can
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: get enough pressure that you can have games where he's
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: getting hit 12 times against the Falcons and then like
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: 15 times against the Vikings in week one, I can
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: get being a little bit scared, man. That shit hurts.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, man. Charles McDonald. Check him out on the Athletic Live,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: my brother. I appreciate you.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you, bro.
• 59:11
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• 59:13
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