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- 0:15This is Robert Marsh and you're listening to
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- 0:36this your weekend cultural recommendation. With
- 0:40me always is my producer, Lucinda Deckertland.
- 0:43Hola! And today we have Tracy Taylor of The Library
- 0:47Poet. Welcome. Hi, thank you for having me. Yes,
- 0:51yes. So Tracy, you are a former librarian. Does
- 0:57that mean you've always been a voracious reader?
- 1:01Voracious. Voracious. Voracious? I don't know.
- 1:07I don't know. She's not a dinosaur. I mean, maybe.
- 1:11Let's start from that. Does that mean you've
- 1:13always been a voracious reader, thus influencing
- 1:16your career choice? I would say yes, but there's
- 1:19a little bit more to the story there. Tell us,
- 1:22tell us. So, born and raised in Cape May, New
- 1:24Jersey, so not too far from Philly. Yes. Yeah.
- 1:27As a kid, I would carry like stacks of books
- 1:32down the stairs, like very small, before I could
- 1:34even read. And I think this was very influenced
- 1:37by... librarians in my life and I would open
- 1:41these picture books that had words of them and
- 1:43just like pretend like I knew what I was reading.
- 1:45I was a very imaginative kid and sort of I think
- 1:49my love for reading intertwines with my love
- 1:52for writing. A lot of kids you know they do like
- 1:55lemonade stands and I was creating newspapers
- 1:58which I mean It would be more so zines, but I
- 2:01just didn't have the word for that back then,
- 2:03right? So as a kid, I would create different
- 2:06sections of a newspaper and go around to my neighbors
- 2:08and thankfully they were very kind. Here's 25
- 2:13cents, but I had a comic section and everything
- 2:15like that. So I think my love for reading and
- 2:18writing started very, very young. There's a story
- 2:21beyond that that kind of led to my... profession
- 2:26as a librarian, but it wasn't always what I wanted
- 2:29to do. What I wanted to always do was be a writer
- 2:31for sure, and then some influences down the road
- 2:34kind of projected me into that. Let's talk about
- 2:38those influences in a second. Interjection though.
- 2:41Did you come of age around the time of the Pizza
- 2:45Hut personal pan pizza? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:48Yeah. No, we're in 1990. So yeah. Were you just
- 2:53eating pizza all the time? Pizzas actually, you
- 2:55know, maybe that's a connection I never made.
- 2:57Pizza is my favorite food. So there is maybe,
- 2:59you know, one in the same could be. I definitely
- 3:02was up. I was in pizza and I would go to the
- 3:04Pizza Hut in Wildwood a lot to claim my fries.
- 3:07So for sure. Can you please share with the audience?
- 3:10who may or may not know about the Pizza Hut connection?
- 3:15Yeah, now to be fair I don't remember a lot about
- 3:18it because I was in Italy during the 90s during
- 3:21my peak pizza eating years, but tell me if I'm
- 3:25wrong Pizza Hut had a program during the 90s
- 3:28where if you read a certain amount of books during
- 3:31the summer or during a period of time they would
- 3:36give you a personal pan pizza. Yeah, there was
- 3:39like a card or something, unless I'm misremembering.
- 3:42Robert fact check. It was called Pizza Hut Bookit.
- 3:46Yeah. Program. Founded in 1984 by Pizza Hut,
- 3:51Bookit is a reading incentive program designed
- 3:54to inspire children to develop lifelong reading
- 3:58habits and discover their joy of reading. Wow
- 4:03children who met their reading goals can earn
- 4:05a free one topping personal pan pizza each program
- 4:10month Pizza Hut responsible for the Millennials
- 4:14being literate 100 % Fun easy and rewarding.
- 4:18There's even an app now, so you better sign up
- 4:21your voice Well, my youngest is two so get started
- 4:26early Tracy. Let's get back to you Before we
- 4:31went on our Pizza Hut tangent, we were about
- 4:35to go down an educational background path. Could
- 4:39you share that with us? Absolutely, yeah. So
- 4:42that part of the journey is absolutely what influenced
- 4:44me to go into being a librarian. So my undergrad
- 4:47is from Millersville University, which is in
- 4:50Lancaster, Pennsylvania. And I was an English
- 4:52literature major, print media studies minor.
- 4:55And right after I graduated from Millersville,
- 4:58I moved to Philly. As one sometimes does with
- 5:01an English literature degree, I was working as
- 5:03a server in various different restaurants. Still
- 5:06trying to figure it out. Wasn't really sure what
- 5:08I was doing or not with life. I knew I wanted
- 5:10to be a writer, but I wasn't sure what the next
- 5:12step was. And somewhere along that journey, I
- 5:17ended up applying for a job to be an assistant
- 5:21lacrosse coach, which I have some background
- 5:23in as a coach at a Quaker school in Germantown
- 5:26and the athletic director there. was a really
- 5:30big pivotal point into getting me involved in
- 5:33the school there and various different roles.
- 5:36You know, I was substituting in P .E. I was doing
- 5:38a lot of things and by happenstance was asked
- 5:41to like... chaperone a field trip and a woman
- 5:44sat next to me and we got talking and she was
- 5:48the librarian at the time and asked me if I would
- 5:51also like to help out there within the library
- 5:54and I was working there for a little bit and
- 5:58I loved it absolutely fell in love and she had
- 6:02retired and current director of the library there
- 6:06now had taken over and And there was a moment
- 6:10where I was working within there and she was
- 6:13in the library and we sat down and she kind of
- 6:16asked me like, what do you think your next steps
- 6:19are? And I was still trying to figure it out.
- 6:22I thought I was actually going to go to grad
- 6:24school for social work. And she was like, you
- 6:27know what I really feel like I could see you
- 6:30as a middle school librarian and I was like I
- 6:32didn't even see that as a possibility and I remembered
- 6:35I recalled back to like my childhood of how important
- 6:38reading was to me and I have had so many different
- 6:40roles and jobs in life and The fact that she
- 6:44saw that in me meant so much, and she's a really
- 6:47dear friend now and a huge mentor back then.
- 6:51So with that, I ended up applying to grad school
- 6:54for my master's in librarianship. I got into
- 6:59Clarion University, it's now called Penn West
- 7:01Clarion, which is an online program. And I had
- 7:04a couple of friends from undergrad that had gone
- 7:06there through that program as well. So I knew
- 7:09that I was going to be able to still work and
- 7:11attend school. Another part of the story is I
- 7:15ended up actually applying for a full -time librarian
- 7:18job at another Quaker school, which is what.
- 7:22took me out of Philly for a little bit. It was
- 7:25a school in DC and I ended up getting the job.
- 7:29So I was a middle school librarian assistant
- 7:32while I was getting my master's in librarianship.
- 7:36All because this one person, friend, woman saw
- 7:40something in me that I wasn't even aware I was
- 7:43there yet. We graduate from grad school. Where
- 7:47do we go from there? So, yeah, right. So I actually
- 7:50graduated during the pandemic. And it was an
- 7:53online program anyway, but there would have been
- 7:55an opportunity to walk, which I was hoping to
- 7:57do, but it was 2020. May 2020, so like the height
- 8:02of everything. Schools were shut down. I was
- 8:05working from home, like it was as a librarian.
- 8:08Imagine how you do that as a middle school librarian
- 8:10assistant, but we made it work. And so I graduated
- 8:14and I was at Sidwell for another year. And then...
- 8:20I was kind of presented with this like dream
- 8:24opportunity of working as a crisis counselor
- 8:28supporting LGBTQ plus young people in crisis
- 8:31and this felt like This opportunity was there
- 8:35and I was like, not only do I get to like pursue
- 8:38this dream as a librarian, but now I get to shift
- 8:41into something that also I've always wanted to
- 8:44do in my life. So that kind of speaks to the
- 8:48social work. Yeah, exactly. So it felt like I
- 8:50was like, wow, like how lucky am I that I get
- 8:53to like live a life and do. multiple different
- 8:56things that I've always wanted to do and I was
- 8:58really excited about it. So I've been doing that
- 9:01for the past few years since I made that shift
- 9:04and I feel like with the Library Poet I get to
- 9:09still have a connection in some ways to a job
- 9:11that I also deeply care about as a librarian.
- 9:14Oh, I love that, I love that. Speaking of the
- 9:18Library Poet project, could you tell our audience
- 9:21a little bit about that? What it is. I write
- 9:24my poetry out on these library cards, the date
- 9:28due cards, checkout cards, whatever you want
- 9:31to call them. And the way it's evolved now is
- 9:34I go around the city and I don't usually have
- 9:39like a spot in mind when I do this. I'm usually
- 9:41just walking around. I'll have like a particular
- 9:44one or two cards that I'm thinking maybe something
- 9:48will call to me. And I sort of see like a spot
- 9:51in the city that reflects the poem in some way
- 9:54or just feels connected to me and I'll take a
- 9:57photo of me holding the poem with the card and
- 10:02the backdrop of Philly is kind of like, you know,
- 10:05the canvas all together. what the library poet
- 10:08is what inspired you or like what made you think
- 10:12of using the book checkout cards because that's
- 10:15so clever yeah and can you buy those on amazon
- 10:17or yeah how are you getting these so right no
- 10:21no definitely not definitely not amazon i'm not
- 10:24using them anymore are they Some libraries do
- 10:27for sure. Librarians use different vendors and
- 10:30stuff like that. There's like the library store
- 10:32that has them online. I had them recycled from
- 10:36a library that was discarding them. And a friend
- 10:38of mine actually that I worked with back in DC
- 10:41had her own stack of a different color. And when
- 10:45we realized that about each other, we like exchanged
- 10:48our cards. So like when we lived near each other,
- 10:51we would We used to write notes to each other
- 10:53on them. So when I moved, thankfully, I held
- 10:56onto them. I didn't get rid of them. And I sort
- 10:58of remembered that I had them in a desk, which
- 11:01is part of where the story of the Library Poet
- 11:05evolves. Oh, that's incredible. So speaking of
- 11:08that, what inspired the project? Yeah, so it
- 11:13was actually... We had a lot of snowy days this
- 11:16year, but it was the blizzard particularly at
- 11:19the end of January that I was at home in my apartment
- 11:22and had a lot of creative energy. And sometimes
- 11:25what I usually do anyway is just write out poems
- 11:28when I'm feeling like the urge to do that. And
- 11:32there was. a lot of things happening at that
- 11:35time that have been happening, that are still
- 11:38happening very violently in the country, in the
- 11:41world. And I usually show up in different ways,
- 11:45but this time I wanted to try to... get that
- 11:47out creatively. So I had written a few different
- 11:50poems. I was marinating on so many different
- 11:52things about like, where do I want to go next
- 11:55creatively in my life? It sounds so philosophical,
- 11:58but like, I was like, oh, you know, I think I
- 12:00still have those library cards in my desk. And
- 12:02I was like, what if I took a verse from one of
- 12:05these poems, put it out on this library card?
- 12:08What would that look like? So the layers of the
- 12:11library poet kind of came together bit by bit
- 12:14and all at once. But I wrote the poem on the
- 12:18library card and it didn't start with me taking
- 12:22the photos in the city. I was like trying to
- 12:24artistically take them around my apartment and
- 12:26then inspired. We were snowed in. Right. No,
- 12:29exactly. I was inspired by the snow too and the
- 12:32one of the first ones I ever I put out there.
- 12:35But I, you know, I was trying to think of different
- 12:37things. I didn't even know if I was going to
- 12:39just post it on my personal one. And then I really
- 12:42just thought. I was thinking about the artists
- 12:45that influenced me and the writers that influenced
- 12:47me and I was like what if I used an alias of
- 12:51some sort and started a whole different account
- 12:54and that's kind of the birth of The Library Poet.
- 12:58So yes, you started this project during the blizzard
- 13:00of this year and since then you've published
- 13:02over 60 pieces to Instagram, many of which are
- 13:06tied to your identity as a queer and gay person,
- 13:09some political. Power to the people, melt the
- 13:11ice! frequently about relationships. Be relatable.
- 13:17Very relatable. Can you expand on, you know,
- 13:21how this has then been able to give you a platform
- 13:26and a voice while we're kind of going through
- 13:30this time frame? Absolutely. I definitely want
- 13:34to credit, again, the people that have influenced
- 13:37me to even like start this, the artists around
- 13:39Philly. We are so surrounded by street artists,
- 13:44artist muralists everywhere and I wouldn't be
- 13:47doing what I am as a creative and existing as
- 13:50I am as a person without those influences in
- 13:53the city. So I will say that I think they really
- 13:58gave me the courage to be vulnerable and in putting
- 14:01my voice out there. I don't recall who said this,
- 14:04but it's like you want to be able to create what
- 14:07makes you happy, because that's what's going
- 14:10to keep you going. And you're just going to hope
- 14:12that someone along the way really resonates with
- 14:16it. And I feel like that's how I've always tried
- 14:18to be as a writer, as a creative person. It's
- 14:23a way for me to feel better, to get these words
- 14:26out and to help people feel less alone. Hope
- 14:30it does that. I mean, you know, it at least makes
- 14:32me feel that way. So to be able to combine so
- 14:36many different causes that I care about my own
- 14:39identities and the city that I absolutely love.
- 14:43And I'm so happy that I live here again. because
- 14:46before I was even doing this, I was always taking
- 14:48photos of the city, like at every angle, whatever,
- 14:51the skyline is my absolute favorite. So to be
- 14:54able to be putting all these elements into one
- 14:58is truly like, I'm doing what I've always wanted
- 15:02to do. I just didn't know that it was possible.
- 15:05And even with your day job now, that's a lot
- 15:10to carry. So having some type of creative outlet
- 15:14or something else to kind of lean on, to kind
- 15:17of break out from what is most likely a sometimes
- 15:23very difficult day while taking on trauma around
- 15:28you, it's a beautiful expression of art that
- 15:31you get to share with everyone. Thank you, yeah.
- 15:34Tracy, where can our audience find you? So you
- 15:37can find me on Instagram at The Library Poet.
- 15:42Excellent, excellent. Thank you. Everyone, check
- 15:46out Tracy's work and we'll be right back with
- 15:48some rapid fire questions. And we're back with
- 15:58rapid fire questions. What is your favorite beverage
- 16:02at the moment? I really only drink water. I'll
- 16:05give you, wait, no, here we go. Staying hydrated.
- 16:08A piccoltini from Tattooed Moms. Ooh! A piccoltini
- 16:11from Tattooed Moms. Yes! I've never been there.
- 16:15It's so close to my house. It's going back. You're
- 16:18my favorite spot. It's speaking of... We were
- 16:20in Cape May from Trail Day weekend, and the friends
- 16:23have an indoor pizza maker, and we made a pickle
- 16:28pizza. Oh, that sounds so interesting. It was
- 16:31so good. It was so good. With an Alfredo sauce
- 16:36on it. Oh my gosh. Oh, I want to go back. This
- 16:40is their rapid fire section. All right, fine,
- 16:50fine, fine. Back to the questions. Best bookstore
- 16:54in the city? Oh, so I'm going to cheat. I have
- 16:57three answers. Giovanni's Room, a thousand percent,
- 17:01and The Wooden Shoe on South Street. And then
- 17:05the third one I would say is Book Trader, but
- 17:09there's a specific spot in Book Trader. It's
- 17:11a bookstore out in Old City. And if you go upstairs
- 17:16in this one corner, they have a I always thought
- 17:20I was gonna gatekeep this, but I guess not. They
- 17:22have this one little corner that is filled with
- 17:25vintage queer books from like the 80s and 90s.
- 17:28There's like fiction, nonfiction, and it's one
- 17:31of my favorite spots to get lost in for like
- 17:34hours. I love that. I love that. Are you gonna
- 17:37start reading, Robert? We are gonna go back to,
- 17:41I did listen to all of the racial read, heated
- 17:44travel read, series books, the audio. Sorry guys.
- 17:50No, audio book counts. Audio book counts. Thank
- 17:52you. Thank you. As a librarian, I have to say
- 17:54that any way you're reading that matters, even
- 17:57if it's listening. For accessibility too. Accessibility.
- 18:00I love it. Thank you very much. Then I am an
- 18:03avid reader after that series. Woo! Oh my gosh.
- 18:07Season two coming out soon. Can't wait. Favorite
- 18:10genre of book? Oh, realistic fiction. Or I do
- 18:14love non -fiction, I will say. I love a good
- 18:16memoir. Ooh. I really do. Okay. Favorite memoir?
- 18:21I love Mariah Carey's or I will say Robin's book
- 18:27about Whitney Houston, which I forget what it's
- 18:30called. A song for you maybe is what? The singer
- 18:32Robin did a book. No, sorry. Robin Crawford.
- 18:35I believe her name is Robin Crawford. It was
- 18:37like Whitney Houston's best friend. Love it.
- 18:41Thank you. Swedish 90s teen sensation. 2000s
- 18:49club. I didn't know Robin was into that. Icon
- 18:51Robin is BFF. What's BFF with Whitney? I also
- 18:56have three answers to that. Tina Fey as well.
- 18:59Oh, Bossy Fance. Yeah, yeah, Bossy Fance. I read
- 19:01that in two hours sitting down on my couch. I
- 19:05consumed that book so quickly. Big Tina Fey fan.
- 19:08Upper Darby girl. Oh, and she vacations in Kate
- 19:10May. Yes. She's a Kate May girl. Kate May and
- 19:13Mollwood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See you soon, Tina.
- 19:18Favorite place to score a cheesesteak? I love
- 19:21Cosme's Daily. I have to say, I definitely am
- 19:25a Cosme's Daily person. Thousand percent. Book
- 19:28you find yourself revisiting over and over again.
- 19:31Letters Never Sent by Sandra Moran, which is
- 19:34actually, I got that at Giovanni's room back
- 19:37in 2014 or 13 before they closed and then reopened.
- 19:42That was one of my favorite books. I randomly
- 19:45picked it up. It was a new release back then
- 19:47and I read it almost every year. Lovely, lovely.
- 19:51And finally, favorite Philadelphia neighborhood.
- 19:54Bella Vista, hands down. There's Isaiah's mosaics
- 19:58are everywhere. Oh yes, yes. For that reason.
- 20:01Absolutely. Okay, bonus question. What are you
- 20:04most excited for for this Pride? Oh, being back
- 20:08here with friends. Honestly, I have lived in
- 20:10DC for eight years and I haven't been to a Philly
- 20:13Pride since I last lived here in 2017. So to
- 20:17be surrounded by my chosen family in Philly,
- 20:20in the gayborhood, I'm really excited about that.
- 20:22Love it! Love that! Everyone, check out the Library
- 20:27Poet and thank you so much for sharing your time.
- 20:30Thank you both so much Thanks for tuning in to
- 20:56Philly has art your weekly cultural update Until
- 20:59next time, keep creating, keep connecting, and
- 21:02remember, Philly has heart and art.