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Castle Black - House of the Dragon - S3 Ep 2 - Queens Landing REVIEW AND RECAP · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: things fandom. And today we are here to review and
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  Speaker 1: recap episode two, Season three House of Dragons titled queens Landing. Then,
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  Speaker 1: first off, just from the title alone that yes, I
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  Speaker 1: love that. I love that.
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  Speaker 3: We've always wanted to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Has it always been called Kingslanding? Has it ever been
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  Speaker 1: called queens Landing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: It's like so that's the whole thing with the history
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  Speaker 2: of Westros, right, because it became King's Landing whenever the
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  Speaker 2: original egg on the Conqueror came through and that's where
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  Speaker 2: he landed, that's where he got made his like stand
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. So before I got it like that, the
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  Speaker 2: seven kingdoms like it's closest to like Landisport or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and like that's kind of the closest next big place.
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  Speaker 2: So they had their own modes of like trade and
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  Speaker 2: trade land landings, and like King's Landing might have been
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  Speaker 2: a place where they might have traded a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but it wasn't as popular as like Landisport or further
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  Speaker 2: down where the high towers and like what is Marjorie
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  Speaker 2: Tyrols and stuff? Are yeah, so yeah, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: they all had to bend that knee.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: Listen Ben the knee. Uh to say the least that
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  Speaker 1: happened this episode. I before we started, I was just like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: where do we start because there's so much. Well, first,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like this episode was deeply grief stricken just
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  Speaker 1: throughout the episode, one for obvious reasons and the others
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  Speaker 1: for like, uh, you know, you made a mistake type reason.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean just the obvious, the fact that that
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  Speaker 1: whole Shenanigan's happened the last episode that I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: it is his fault as well. Shout outs to Reina
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  Speaker 1: for hastening the death, but Jace being taken out, I
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  Speaker 1: say she hastened that death because whether or not, again,
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  Speaker 1: I understand in the books he was gonna go out anyway,
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  Speaker 1: but again it was fifty to fifty hours gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: Raina just made that one hundred percent and quicker. So
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  Speaker 1: I still got smoked for Raina. I don't care. But
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  Speaker 1: as mentioned, pure deeply deeply grief stricken across the board
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  Speaker 1: on this episode. And of course we start with Raina.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, ran Nearer rather finding out that her son
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  Speaker 1: has passed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's interesting because it's like every
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  Speaker 2: season we get in this niverse, they're doing something that
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  Speaker 2: we may not have seen before. And I guess it's
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  Speaker 2: like also true to HBO itself, Like HBO tends to
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  Speaker 2: put out content that you we may not have seen before,
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  Speaker 2: Like you don't like oh Luvius showed us on television, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Like HBO is known for doing that, right in this case,
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  Speaker 2: it's like the first time we've ever seen a Targarian
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  Speaker 2: funeral this way, Like have we ever seen them pass
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  Speaker 2: a body across like multiple foots and then just like
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  Speaker 2: bringing like that's the first time I've ever seen them
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  Speaker 2: like treat a body that way, treat like instead of
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  Speaker 2: just like the next scene us being like seeing the
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  Speaker 2: like I know that like in seasons of Game Our
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  Speaker 2: Thrones you would see the bodies in the septs and
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  Speaker 2: like people coming to visit them and like an awake
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  Speaker 2: for intercepts for like earlier seasons of this show, whenever
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  Speaker 2: one of a whenever they bashed in Eggon's kids or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: the one that they caught or whatever, that was a
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  Speaker 2: whole rigamarole.
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  Speaker 3: But it wasn't the same kind of thing that happened here.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like it seems like because possibly because he
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  Speaker 2: was a dragon writer, that the dragon masters were the
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  Speaker 2: one to like bear his body, be his like bears
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm not sure, but it was interesting that
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  Speaker 2: like the whole idea of grief being practiced here was
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  Speaker 2: something that was shown not just initially with his mother,
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  Speaker 2: who's like his closest kin, but with the people who
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  Speaker 2: were like part of the Tigerian dynasty with the dragons
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  Speaker 2: and taking care of the dragons and like training this
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  Speaker 2: boy to be able to ride his dragon, and like they're
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  Speaker 2: the first ones to like bear him where he needs
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  Speaker 2: to go. Yeah, and that and we're not even in
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  Speaker 2: the official funeral yet, right, Like that's just just bringing
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  Speaker 2: him back to his mother, so Rainier could bear witness,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, right, And then Beyla also because I
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  Speaker 2: would imagine she may have a hand in this, like
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  Speaker 2: you know, to to well want obviously go fish him
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  Speaker 2: out the water, but to make sure that she chose
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  Speaker 2: and tells the truth about what happened and what was
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  Speaker 2: so hard to watch about this, like yes, and and
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  Speaker 2: and shout out to DJ Benhami and who's like you know,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's terrible and the show, right, I was like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Agree with everybody's herible. It's also and he would agree
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  Speaker 1: as well. It's also hard to see a mother like
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  Speaker 1: grieve like that, and especially it's like her reaction was real,
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  Speaker 1: the way she was just like, how could you write
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  Speaker 1: like and she's she's basically lamenting the things that she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to say to his face. But now he's gone,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like she's so angry with him because and
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  Speaker 1: it's mostly because she's she's angry with him for several reasons. Right,
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  Speaker 1: She's angry with him about the way he essentially weaponized
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  Speaker 1: patriarchy to do to her what many many men down
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  Speaker 1: the line have always done to her, right and fantilize her,
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  Speaker 1: lock her up literally, you know, or emotionally or physically spiritually,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, tell her where she can and cannot
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  Speaker 1: do where she can and kindnot go like Jace perpetuated that.
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  Speaker 1: But also as her child to like openly defy her,
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing, and not justify her life like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm your parent, you gonna do what you say to
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  Speaker 1: fight her in a way that because she wanted to
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  Speaker 1: keep him safe at the end of the day, she
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  Speaker 1: that's still her child, right, she still want to give
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  Speaker 1: him safe. She's and and it's so many layers, right,
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  Speaker 1: and she's the queen, and it's just like and that
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  Speaker 1: goes back to the being the fied part, like how
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  Speaker 1: you gonna tell them the lock of the queen and
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  Speaker 1: then the her the king's her queen's guard whatever you
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  Speaker 1: call him. For him to comply with Jason, like that
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  Speaker 1: was even wild as well. So you know, I found
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  Speaker 1: that approach of how she was grieving Jase of it
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  Speaker 1: was anger, sorrow, like even a little bit of like confusion,
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  Speaker 1: like how could you, how could you in a way
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  Speaker 1: betray her?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: And she used that word a lot too. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: all of y'all betrayed me left and right. Like I
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  Speaker 1: told y'all know, I told y'all east, y'all went west.
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  Speaker 1: I told y'all north, y'all went south. Like nobody's listening.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's listening to the queen, nobody's listening to the woman,
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  Speaker 1: and to everybody's essentially their dreat from it. So I
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  Speaker 1: just found a lot layers and how she was approaching
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  Speaker 1: the situation and the complexity, the complexity of grief, the
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  Speaker 1: complexity of her emotions and her feelings and how she's
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  Speaker 1: trying to get through all of this and it's tearing
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  Speaker 1: her up. It tears her up, you see that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's also I'm very telling because
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  Speaker 3: like and the after a show component, she the actor
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  Speaker 3: mentions that she is.
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  Speaker 2: In like the denial stage of grief or whatever, like
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  Speaker 2: initially like the anger and denial component of it.
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  Speaker 3: And you can see that like being that being her
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  Speaker 3: initial reaction.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that it also like you're saying that
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  Speaker 2: she still had the anger that she was coming at
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  Speaker 2: it with like she I think it really was poignant
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  Speaker 2: that she was still trying to like keep the moment
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  Speaker 2: in her mind where he still might be alive, yep,
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  Speaker 2: real to her for as long as she could play
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  Speaker 2: out my son is still alive for two more seconds
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  Speaker 2: the more if he's just if I can just keep
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  Speaker 2: moving like he's still here, then I don't have to
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  Speaker 2: Like I can see everything around me telling me that
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  Speaker 2: this that.
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  Speaker 3: He's not here anymore.
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  Speaker 2: But I just need this in I need to feel
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  Speaker 2: like he's still alive for for just two more minutes.
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  Speaker 2: I wish that so much more of the universe here,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean, and this is real for true life
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  Speaker 2: right too. But like they, she just doesn't have the
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  Speaker 2: sufficient support system in order for her to be able
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  Speaker 2: to be a real person going through some shit and
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  Speaker 2: also pick up the mantle and be a queen and
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  Speaker 2: people respect her. They weren't even respecting her before she
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  Speaker 2: was grieving from his death, So what is the what
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  Speaker 2: is it going to be like after? And so when
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  Speaker 2: we later on in episode see how she's moving when
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  Speaker 2: she's in Queenslanding, and she seems a little off.
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  Speaker 1: She's super off.
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  Speaker 2: Super emotional, but she seems like she hesitant, She's like
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  Speaker 2: she just she lacks the compulsion. She never lacked the
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  Speaker 2: compulsion to get things done, but the doing of it,
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  Speaker 2: like this whole time, everyone second guessing her has led
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  Speaker 2: to her not being used to.
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  Speaker 3: The action and confidence of just doing the thing.
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  Speaker 2: And so like the grief compounding that, like that is
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  Speaker 2: just it makes for people to like look at her
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  Speaker 2: in judgment rather than like support and like actual assistance.
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  Speaker 2: And so we'll get into I guess at some point,
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  Speaker 2: like the daemon of it all. But yeah, that's yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that was what stood out to me the most
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  Speaker 2: about her grief in particular after all this happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, well said and and like I said,
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  Speaker 1: just just deepening the complexity of what she's going through.
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  Speaker 1: And that's so true, like her just not getting a
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  Speaker 1: chance to execute. Then you finally get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: literally execute, and you can't do it right for multiple reasons.
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  Speaker 1: But you you you're kind of feeling weak to do
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. So and that's interesting, like again, like
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  Speaker 1: you mentioning just everybody around her, like and and the
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  Speaker 1: failures of everybody around her, right, like especially when the
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  Speaker 1: guard that you know helped jslock her up was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh take my head, and she's like, what good is
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  Speaker 1: that supposed to do? That's like and I love that
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  Speaker 1: because that's how I'd be feeling. I'd be like, don't
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  Speaker 1: come to me after the fact, Like when I needed
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  Speaker 1: you to do what I needed you to do, I
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  Speaker 1: needed you to do it then like now it's too late.
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  Speaker 1: Now the deed has been done. Now there's no bringing
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  Speaker 1: back my son. No, there's nothing you can do to
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  Speaker 1: aswage anything at this point. So I did like that
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  Speaker 1: that she said it to everybody. She was just like,
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  Speaker 1: all your heads is due, but it ain't gonna pay
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  Speaker 1: the price.
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  Speaker 2: It ain't enough Okay, okay, that's a word. All heads
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  Speaker 2: are due, but not enough pay Kendrick, it hain't enough
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  Speaker 2: kick like for me, when Homeboy popped up and he
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  Speaker 2: was like when he first shut up on the screen.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Sean Evans, what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 1: Like Evan, no, he do? The keys are Dulu like
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  Speaker 1: a little older Sean Evans. You're right, you're right eating
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  Speaker 1: them hot wings.
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  Speaker 3: You right.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that, you know, since you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: him and again this he don't even know what has
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  Speaker 1: happened yet. So this is happening. And then meanwhile in
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  Speaker 1: the riverlands, Damon and and you know the record label
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  Speaker 1: is freestyling ciphers in the marsh because they so damn
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  Speaker 1: happy that, you know they are, especially with the Northmen, right,
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  Speaker 1: the one of the what they call the wolves, with
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  Speaker 1: the old the white Wolves or whatever, the old.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So he out there chilling, having a you know, cookout,
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  Speaker 1: having a great time, you know, they singing. I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was laughing at the little rhymes that they was
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  Speaker 1: coming up with. I was like, all right, y'all cute.
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  Speaker 1: I know, y'all enjoy yourselves and it was nice to
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  Speaker 1: see like a victory for them because I just I
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  Speaker 1: feel like and even though it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: tainted victory, it's still, you know, you gotta count as
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  Speaker 1: a win. I mean, even when Baylor was like the
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  Speaker 1: battles won, I was just like, damn is it? Because
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  Speaker 1: I mean high Tide was that every ship was pretty
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  Speaker 1: much blown up. Every you know, you got bodies flying
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  Speaker 1: in the wind and in the sea, like it's just
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  Speaker 1: you got all this stuff going on, which is full
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  Speaker 1: of grief and full of sadness and full over the thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then Damon and them is, you know, partying like
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  Speaker 1: it's nineteen ninety nine. So I just I it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of funny. But of course he just
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  Speaker 1: didn't know, right, And then once that news was delivered,
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  Speaker 1: he was just like the way Damon be reacting about things,
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  Speaker 1: like he's he's crazy number one, but he's very measured.
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  Speaker 1: He's very measured. He's just like, Okay, this is probably
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  Speaker 1: the worst thing that could have happened now, but we
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  Speaker 1: gotta move, we gotta make it happen. So I do
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  Speaker 1: like that, you know, he locked in immediately was like
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  Speaker 1: all right, y'all, we gotta make moves. We gotta bring her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we gotta go towards kings Lanny and be
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  Speaker 1: her fish. So I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's.
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  Speaker 2: The thing about Damon that everyone like, that's the one thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is saving grace throughout everyone's perspective of him. And
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  Speaker 2: this is true to the books and too, like the
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  Speaker 2: TV show where it's like everyone knows Damon is not
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  Speaker 2: someone you want in power, Like you don't want him
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  Speaker 2: to run anything. He does not move in a way
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  Speaker 2: that is conducive for everyone to get what they need.
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  Speaker 2: He just don't care. He's about himself and in a
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  Speaker 2: way that is not.
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  Speaker 3: Actually useful to people, because.
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  Speaker 2: There's people who are about themselves and is actually useful.
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  Speaker 2: He's not that person. But the exception is when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to any kind of battle, any kind of weaponry,
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  Speaker 2: any kind of anything that's like tactical and like aggression,
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  Speaker 2: Damon's your man. Yeah, don't even worry about it. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that him showing up, I think that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that like to Raynier's push for the
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  Speaker 2: throne to need Damon, because if you remember back in
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  Speaker 2: previous seasons, whenever they were first getting the party together,
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  Speaker 2: people are like, well, what's Damon doing, Like it's who's
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  Speaker 2: he's who's he would and because they know how Damon
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  Speaker 2: moves and so and Damon knew that too, and because
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  Speaker 2: but also Damon knew that he needed Raynier and that's
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  Speaker 2: why he roomed her, organized it so that he and
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  Speaker 2: she would be together, because he was like, there's no
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  Speaker 2: way I can get the throne without her, and there's
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  Speaker 2: no way she can get thrown without me.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's how this all set that came to being.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just like we're seeing all the things that
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  Speaker 2: staff the deck play out right now. Yeah, as much
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  Speaker 2: as you know, against our better judgment, we're rooting for
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  Speaker 2: the A lot of us is rooting for black mat everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But like there's so much treachery there right Like again,
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  Speaker 2: I know they've normalized it, but that's how uncle that's
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  Speaker 2: still her uncle and use the correct term groom amongst
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  Speaker 2: other things.
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  Speaker 1: Like all of that is disgusting at.
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  Speaker 3: The end of the day, very vile. Like the way
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  Speaker 3: that the whole family's incestuous is like so like and
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a they try. I think that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like Dexter, Like Dexter is a murderer,
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  Speaker 2: but he is like killing other bad folks. So then
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  Speaker 2: you kind of like for a quote, good reasons, right,
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  Speaker 2: and then like first off, for a game with them.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, well, noble, noble people for people
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  Speaker 3: are corrupt.
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  Speaker 2: Ultimately, anything that's having to do with monarchy is also corrupt.
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  Speaker 2: So does it really matter that they're also doing these nasty,
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  Speaker 2: vile things Like there, that's who they are, So we're
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  Speaker 2: just you're rooting for people who are Like my main
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  Speaker 2: thing is like, don't ever try to equivocate that level
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  Speaker 2: of like just messed up stuff, crust like corroded, like
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  Speaker 2: sho never be done stuff with like any ordinary thing
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  Speaker 2: that someone does wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Like those are not the same. Hmm okay, well you
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  Speaker 1: know when we talk about keeping it all in the family.
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  Speaker 1: I did really enjoy seeing the blacks come together this episode.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing the blacks and one scene together, I was like.
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  Speaker 1: Look at that, every black person in one scene lifted
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  Speaker 1: my spirits. I'm rooting for everybody black and they all
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: related and that right again, kind of weird and how
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it happened, but hey, here we are. I love the
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: scene uh, basically the Valarians and the Targarians together, right.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So with the scene where you see the sea snake, Beyla,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Alan and Adam and they're all family like, and I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: guess that's the first time that has ever happened. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: too well one having Alan and Adam out there trying
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to find their father, right like the father they wouldn't
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: claim them for all this time, but you know now
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that he needs them, you know, they they like this
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: kind of newfound energy for him. I don't know if
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that's because you know, like like you know, they talked
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: about it how like you know, like Alan had a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: great point when he was talking to Bayla about just
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: her understanding and memories of Corliss, right, and how she
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: he was saying, like, you know, we aren't me and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: me and Adam and Allen aren't just like memories that
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Corliss was should have just like try to dissipate and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and put in the backgrounder like we're real people who
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: were your bastards that you sired, that you never claimed
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and you know, now we out here together when you
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: really need me, and it's just like and I'm fighting
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: for you, right and I'm still a bastard. So you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I like that he had that conversation because at first
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, damn, that's your pappy, like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: when they was fighting and he was like father when
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: his father fell in the ward, I'm like, oh, that's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: your that's your pappy. Now, okay, we were good. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: didn't know where that came from or what that was
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: just in a moment or what.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's something that's interesting is that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: what like Bayla was talking about was the marriage that
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: he had with her grandmother and Rainie, and like because
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Rainy he Correloss the Valerians, the house Valarian came from
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the same place that Targerians came from hous. Valerian just
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: kind of moved to West Roast and integrated with West
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: ROAs a little bit earlier than the Targarians did.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And so that's why they became like shipwrights. This whole thing,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: whatever is happening.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: So that's why Adam has the blood of the dragon
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: in him, because that's what the Valerians also were dragon
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: writers once upon a time or whatever. They're kind of there.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: There is a level inter relation with the Targarians because
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they were already families that existed and are married with
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: each other before the canon. West Ros got it, but
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: they were already dragon writers in their own rights.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: They didn't have to be a Targarian to get on
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: a dragon. So that's why Adam it has like the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: ability to do it. And so it's interesting.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: That a dragon blood. Right, they're all dragon blood, dragon blood.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It's interesting that Corlis who didn't have a dragon again,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: his the Valarians had been around restaurants, talk enough, they
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: did not maintain dragons. How he made the point to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: social clime to marry Raynee and then once married into
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the Targarian family. Of course he gets like all these
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: like gets to get more investment in all his just
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and all kinds of stuff. That's why his his treasury
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: was so big, right, So the whole inheritance thing, him
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: initially being like, oh, it's going to go to Jace.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Jas being out not He's like, I was going to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: go to you, but it's.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Like to to Alan, but it has no value because
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: it's up in smoke. And I wish, like that's a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that's a nice sentiment to share. I wish I had
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: more for you when you had more for me.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: You wasn't trying to give it to me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: You're trying to give it to your grandson son, even
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: though the grandma who was going to the one you
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: were putting on face for whatever around anymore, you were gonna.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Give it to your grandson. But now that it's no
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: longer here, now you're ready to give it to me.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So I'm interested.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Like that's just like the fact that he's like, it's
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: sad that he's grateful for it. It's sad that he's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: saying that the name is means just as much to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: him as the value of an actual inheritance, because that's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: it's kind of in a way what his that dynamic
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: has created and hit them like the feeling that like it's.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Like, just get the bare minimum. It's enough, and it's like, yeah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you're entitled it so much more.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You really aren't have so much. And we also know
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in this world, this Game of Thrones world, how shit is.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Like someone had posted this clip a couple of weeks
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: ago where it was Alaria Sand where she was like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I have ten thousand brothers and sisters right like you
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: have these these kings who sire a million children all
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: over the place, and they all have the last name
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of the lands, you know, I mean John Snow is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: one of the most famous ones, right, like just Adam
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: of the whole, Allan of the whole, Right, those are
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: their bastard last names, right, So it's yes, he they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: are obviously old so much more and also that legitimacy
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of being called and taking on the name of the child.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Because what you just said, like Corlis was like why
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I got it else to give you? I can give
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you my name, and that mattered more to Alan, like
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you could tell they always wanted to They they've known
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: who they were, but to be legitimized like that, it's different.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Even just saying that you say it back to me
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and just making me feel like, oh man, there's so
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: many thoughts Togo.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And then it's like Alan Valerian is basically what he's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be called and basically and then he just mean Alan,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: what about Adam?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: He's talking to both of them, but like if the
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the but they can only have one, like air Air,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: so the primary Air is going to be Alan Peter, right,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: he's the oldest, and he's also the one who actually
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: like has been Corlos as like second hand or whatever.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: This whole time.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he knows, but he also like secondhand, like
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: when it comes to like firsthand actually to like actually
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: take care of like the shipyard and like he knows
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: what's going on, how to run the ships, who's crew
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: in the ships. Like he's on top of all of that.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So it's like I knowing what happens with this. It's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: a good it's a good thing this happens or whatever.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But it's messed up that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: His lack of relationship with his kids has cultivated a
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: feeling within them that they just want to be chose.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Like that's very sad.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Mm no, no, you ever is? I mean, look, he
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: can also teach them how to whip that thing the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: way he whipped it through the like a caddy that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: that man said, give me the wheel. He could teach
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: him a little bit of something. No, but you're right,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: it is. It is sad and again just it's just
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: more grief, right, Like it's just another level of grief
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and grieving like the the family you never had and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the people you never got to me and you know
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: again the people like if he was legitimized or treated
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: properly from the very beginning, like what he could have
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: been a part of since the very beginning because when
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: he has that conversation, Alan has that conversation with Bayla,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's night and day, right. She talks about, Oh, my
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: grandfather this and and and you know, we would do
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: this with him and do that with him. She has
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: all these beautiful memories and Adam was just like, oh,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I got shit.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Like I wish I had some of that. I don't
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: know if that's like And I also feel like that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: And I mentioned that to last episode about like how
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: he was like as soon as he saw his grand
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: babies were in peril, he was like, I'm gonna lead
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the danger away from the grand babies, which is like
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you would that's what you would think of grandfarens would do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: That's what you do.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: That's your blood.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, Alan, Alan, I don don't have that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: They don't have like, oh, like this man, he's been
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: looking out for me. I can always count on him,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like I can go do me and I know whatever
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: he's doing, he's making sure I'm.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Okay no matter what I'm doing.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: He just they don't don't have that, ye, And I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: mean maybe that'll happen now like that we're talking about
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the past and we'll see what happens in the future.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: But I also think that it's interesting because there's so
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: many when you talk about like what he could, what
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: they could build, those relationships that are what's going to
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: happen next when all the things are over, whenever the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: ship's got to get rebuilt, Which relationships is still going
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to be standing, Which families and houses will still be around.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Who are they going to be like getting cultivating in
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the wood from who are they going to actually be
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: having those negotiations with?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And Corls has been able.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: To do that over time, but and he's been has
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: he has to have been able to make the decision
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to back ray near us cause knowing that whoever he
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: trades with would be cool with him or whatever, they
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: still be trading. So we'll see what happens if Alan
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: is going to be able to take up the mantle
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: there and those relationships and actually get the house back
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: in good standing with their a lot of their backing gone.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: M Well, let's talk about the other Bassards on the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: other side, on the Targarian side, the dragon seeds, if
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you will. I mean, we already spoke about Alan and Adam.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: But what's their names? Oh? Or excuse me, there on
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the black side too, Yeah, Olf, Hugh, let's just talk
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: about their their rolling all this as well, and the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: fact that well, first they didn't listen to orders, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Damon came down to them, like, what are y'all niggas
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: doing here? I love that they didn't they they returned
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to Dragonstone right at that point, like like Adadam flew
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: off with sea smoke, you know, shout out to Laner
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: having fun over there in the in the lands, flew
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: off through smoke to go find his father, go help, right,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and now you know, Hugh and off they was weirded
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: out by the magical island they was on. And then
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: where Alice Rivers just kind of fucking materialized just to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: be like, you know what, it's been two days, vagar
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: ain't ain't show up. We're gonna just go back home.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: I doem was there.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: With them, That's mine. That's the whole thing is that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: item was there with them. That was the only one
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: that was like we were told to do X, I'm
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: here to do X.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: They're like, ah, I got spooked. And it was the
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: main one got spooked. Was all y'all.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Scared about y'all got dragons all tree of y'all.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: And so for me all being like so bold when
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: he was scared and being like we out, like I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: don't give a fuck, Like, well, that's no honor, right
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: because and that's why I hated the fact that he
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: got like a really big dragon.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I was just like, god, damn, like I've never really
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: fully trusted him, still don't, but.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: He don't trust himself, and that's the problem.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So he him being big and bold to be like
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: let's go, we out like executive decision, We're out of here.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: And then whenever they get in front of Daemon, he's
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: like yeah, like he tried for two one quick second
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: he was like yeah, we decided, and then Dan.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Was like, who's we this side?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You have no purpose of thinking. We told you what
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to do, just and and and again. Just we go
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: back to It's this thing that that has been happening
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: online too, where they're like, Damon without a dragon is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: still Damon, Like okay, get rid of the dragon, get
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: rid of everything else. Damon could be it be hand
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to hand, you going down when it comes to Damon,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And it's just like I like that Damon, don't play.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: He's like, but I didn't tell you that, or Ray
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Nearer your queen, and again it goes back to it's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: just so interesting to play on patriarchy and the play
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: on who gets to think and who gets to make
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: decisions and all that stuff and nobility. Yes, it's just like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: remember yourself, You're still a bastard. You may have the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: dragon blood, you may be here, but you're here by
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: by because of me, right, And the fact that this
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: whole fucking war is all family infighting at the end
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: of the day. So it's just it's just a lot
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: of like people not fucking listening and doing what the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: fuck they want to do, and then you have pretty
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: much enforcers who are just like, bro, what the fuck
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: did I tell you? You know, I.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Feel like like that Damon's showing up there, like like
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I just feel like this is the arc of Damon
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that I was like, Okay, like we needed to see this,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: We need to see how he because like it all
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: seems jovial and fun whenever we're winning battles, but what
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: is it like whenever you actually need to like freaking
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: organize and coordinate among like you gotta what is it you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Have to herd cats? What is it like when you
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: actually have to heard the cats?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And so like we've seen him do that like on
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the field, but when it comes like to the politic
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: or whatever part of it, it's kind of like, can
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: damon do that? And it's like, as long as the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: politic is get your butt in place for this formation,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: he's never he's not gonna.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Play like he's not a politician. He don't have the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: patient nor the personality for that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: To do any of that. But again, that's not what's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: needed right now and this moment. What is needed is
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: we need to make this play. This play this play.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: This is how we're going to do it. This is
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the strategy, and get yourself in place to do it.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Did I tell you not to do this? I didn't,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: So where are you? Like, that's what's needed? So I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: think that's that. That's the energy that he gave them.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the energy he gave Rainnierra. But he
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: did it and at least a bit more.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Measured to what she needed in a moment like right
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: he's never going to be supportive in the way that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: she actually needs like a moment like let's think through like,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: what do you want to do next? Let's give you
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: a moment to actually breathe, Like, you can't do that
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: right now because you're queen. But let's let's plan to
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: when can you do that. He's not there, but he
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: is on some we got to use some stuff done
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: on which you the whole time. Let's go.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, I just liked how he really
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: locked in this episode and really like made it a
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: point not to at least probably like undermine her. Yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: like k then again, just complete difference from what happened
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: last episode, and he.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Wasn't even there to like I think to be to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: be fair, like not to give Damon too much because
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: he give him a little bit too much and he's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: gonna do some crazy next episode. But I think after
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: he messed up with the whole situation where he had
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: them kill the wrong kid in King's Landing and was
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: reprimanded for that, I think that his exile stuff outsides
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to Hair and Hall was enough distance for him to
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: come to terms with the fact that like, nah, I
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: need to stay where in my lane, I need to
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: not do too much over there, And I think that
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: was enough for him to recognize too that his actions
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: mess up his cause because he under whenever it does
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: undermine right near us, So he's more conscious of the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: fact of like whenever he's doing it. So he may
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: not have been around to know all the circumstances around
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: how she was undermined for used to get in the field,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: but he does know he didn't learn from the last
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: time you messed up.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm not going to do that. I'm gonna try
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to like work with what she where she is, and
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: we're gonna figure this out together. I can't just come
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: in here and bogart the whole thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Like that's no, I get you. Before we move on
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to the greens, I just gotta talk about Raina.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Before we get okay, before the greens. But okay, yeah,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: we do need to get agree.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But before we move on to the greens, we gotta
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we gotta keep on this side of the family. Oh listen, y'all. Like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people agree with me, A
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: lot of people disagree with me when I was blaming
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: rain up for everything I still do, but I also
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: blame Jays heavily as well. And to be clear, the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: kids was wilding. All the kids was wilding, like y'all
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: may bee, you know, they love Jace. Y'all may be
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: trained and in this life, but y'all not, y'all not
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: as seasons as y'all think. And Raina, what the hell
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: was you thinking? Because you wasn't thinking and for her
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: to know just how fucked up things are to the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: point where she tries to go back to the veil,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like she pulls up on what's her name, Jen, Jane,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce your name, Jane Aaron
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Jen over there, help me, help me, please, nigga help me,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And Jane understandably is like, bitch, why are you here?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: You caused so much strife, Like it's so funny though
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: how fast word travels to in West Groos, which again
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: it just from.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: She's enough, But like, I don't think she knows how
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: what happened in the gullet, that that was the You
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, she doesn't know.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: She didn't I swear she said Jace or she said
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: something about Jace dying.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, what I'm saying is she didn't know that. Nobody
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: knows that the Dragon writer.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's what I know. I know that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: But the fact that she knew that Jay's passed or
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you know whatever, and then here comes homegirl running with
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a dragon. You can kind of kind of put two
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: or two together with how exactly what happened? I mean
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: literally freaking Raina like like snitched on herself. She dries
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: snitch on herself, just like, oh I need I need,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I need what it's called asilum, basically I need asylum.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: And understandably, Jayme's like, hell no, not my castle, not
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in myhood.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: She said, You're supposed to be on a boats pintost
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: with the boys.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Remember remember Raina was supposed to take them dragon A's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and them babies and get the hell out and hold
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: down the bloodline. That was her job.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Does what she was trusted to do, that what you
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: was trusted to do.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And I know she felt like, oh, well I want
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to be fighting. Oh I want the machine gun too,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And no, you have a very important task, whether you
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: realize it or not. And again that's why I went
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: back when I was yelling about her last week, when
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I was talking about the frontal lobe not being fully developed,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: like y'all don't be thinking about future, y'all gonna be
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: thinking about like you only see what's right in front
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of you, like, well, why would you relegate me to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: this a babysitter. You are making sure that our bloodline remains,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that we can continue on if the worst happens. And
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: not only that that these eggs CONCUTU and we know
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: what happens up happening with the eggs, you know, within
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a game with j on story. But still like it was,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: it was just she's young, but she's not that young too,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: So I was just like, I get it that foresight
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: is not there. I get it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing too, I think, and I don't
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: know if it's again, I just because it's the story
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: to me is just so.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: And I know it's not supposed to be Raina that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: all of this has happened to. It's supposed to be
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be Nettles, right like this, but Nettles
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: is not doesn't fuck up anyways, Sorry as far as
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I hers, and and and to be clear because for
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: those like who are listening, are like, who's Nettles from
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the books?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: The best one I keep talking about.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Right, that's the one that Portion was talking about in
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the books. Raina was never there. It was actually this
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: character called Nettles, and Nettles gets cheap stiller and actually helps,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like actually help now the whole j S. Things still
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: happens in a different way, but it still happens. But
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that's not the point. The point is it's a positive
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you know, infusion of sheep steala not you know, you know,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: a wider stiller like it's crazy, but continue.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah for me, those stories whatever, I think.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: For me, I just somethime I recognize. And I'm not even.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Because I don't think that the only time that like
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: penalizing someone for their actions is whenever they actually like
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: boldly did something that they are not punishing themselves from
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: actively as well, they're just like no remorse, I just
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: wouldn't err.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: So you think doesn't that she has remorse that she
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be blamed.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying she shouldn't be blamed.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that like lumping me as a person, I'm
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: not gonna lump more stuff on you when I can
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: already see.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: That you're in this like spiral of like like nothing
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: like you you don't even got it girl, Like you
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: don't have it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: So for me and then like where I'm like when
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: you're saying when we talk about the whole situation of
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: like how she how she got here in the first place, how.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: She was like sometimes some people.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Sometimes people see you and you don't like what they
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: refly back to you. Okay, sometimes people see you and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: they say, look, you don't have a dragon. That is,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: your dragon has an egg, hasn't hatched you have, you
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: don't have a dragon. And because you are not a
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: dragon writer like these other other kids are, that's why
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: we're keeping them around. But you are old enough to
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: have agency and be able to speak up for some
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: whenever stuff goes awry. We need you to be that
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: person to speak up for these two little kids who
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: cannot do that. We trust that you know.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: The targaring ways. You're brought up as a Targaran, you
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: know all the stuff.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: We need you to lock in and make sure these
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: kids travel. Okay, we need you to take on that
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: as your responsibility.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: She not sure we're in war.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: People can't always take the moment and speak to someone
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: in a way that they're going to better pick that up.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, if someone had come at
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: her that way, she might have been in a different place.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Because I think what's happened is that she kept hearing
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: you're not a dragon writer, so you don't belong here,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: when what she actually was being said is for the
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: immediacy of war, we need people who can war. You
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: can't war. We need you to go do the things
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that we can't do when we're all on war. Please
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: go take care of the peacetime things before we can
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: get to peace time. She did not see that as
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a responsibility that she could take on. It was actually,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like you were saying, like a legacy kind of thing,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: because like legacy is hard to make present, right, but
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: if you can, And she had been presented to her like,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: we need you to be that person who speaks up
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: for the people who are voices.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: That gives her a cause. She was looking for a
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: cause this whole time. The cause that she's.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Been presented was war, and the reason why she couldn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: be part of that cause is because she didn't have
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: a dragon. She's thinking, I'm gonna put X and Y
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: together and become part of this cause, when actually she
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: like so it's like kind of like a mix between.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: She didn't like the way she was being shown.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Back to herself, like what her actual abilities were, and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: she tried to change the story on what her actual
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: abilities were, but it all came.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: To blow up in her face.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Portia, and I have no notes on
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: everything you said. At the same time, Raina, you are
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: not bigger than a program. You are not bigger than
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a par And Jane said the same thing. She said,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: why the fuck are you in my home? Why would
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you bring the Hyan dragon here? You know what you
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: was a part of? And rain N'era the minute and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: she and and by the time Jane no, she know Rayniera. No,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: she said, Ranera is coming for you. And Rainia don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: know who the dragon Rid was yet, so we don't
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: know what she's gonna do, but we know she ain't
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be happy, she says. And anyone that helps you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Raniera is coming from get out of my house.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, understandably.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: What would I help you? Right now? You gonna help
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: me up? And then here come Rena again. You not thinking,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this is why I be getting so upset.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: You're not thinking, well, I promised you a dragon, Jamee.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy Jane didn't take the bait. Jane looked
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: at her and said, betch what a dragon I supposed
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to do when you got Raniera coming at men a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: dragon A why one at that? Jane said, hell no,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: she said, she said, I can't do shit about a dragon,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: right if the dragon decided that want to live here
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: and got shit to do with me, but your ass
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: gotta go. And that's why I said. I just kept
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: pointing at the screen like this is what I was
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: saying last week, Like you are right, mister p absolutely
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: right about everything you said from a very intellectual, emotional
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: therapeutic level. At the same time, we ain't got time
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: But Jane, in a way, Jane is also like think
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: consider Jane's perspective of also Raniera is in her debt already,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: She's her framing was also the queen owes me, and
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: you're coming up here asking for more from me. I'm
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: already I've already in debt to someone who's actually powerful.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to mess with someone who actually is
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: going to be in Like it would be more expedient
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: for me politically for me to just give you to her.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Why would I do that?
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So like there's layers of that, but also like as
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: an adult talking to a kid. Jane really went about
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that crazy and like that's the way that she, like Raina,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: has been treated this whole time, and it just it
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: just compounds.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Like we've talked about.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: How Otto who was not a good parent, Alison's not
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: a good parent, but Sterius was not a good parent.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: By these niggas ain't good parents.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Like none, no, no, none of these people just because
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: they got the means and resources makes them a person
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: that's actually someone who should be any kind of level
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: of guardianship over young and impressionable minds because they it's
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: all messed up.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: And like so Rainiera is a creature of her environment,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: from her immediate family into all of the interactions she's
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: had with adults this whole time.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: It's Raina the whole thing, Reina.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, okay, I just had to say that point.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: We gotta get to the greens.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because Allison and her decisions, because like here's the thing, Alis.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Said, I so bad. I really I did legitimately feel
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: bad for her this episode. And I know I always
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: got smoke for Alice in every episode. And yes, she
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff is of her own making.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Everyone goes through this, but she actually was trying to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: keep her word against all odds, against everybody wanted to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: do their own thing. She will keep her word to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: ring near her I'm talking about. Yeah, she actually did
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the work.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Why do you feel bad for her.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Because of what the men, not all men, but always
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: a man try to do to her? What several men?
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, And that's okay.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And that's why I made the point that I said
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: earlier today, earlier about we tend to see different new
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: things in each like season.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Of Gamer Thrones or HBO whatever. Yeah, but not when
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it comes to sexual violence. And I'm tired.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I'm tired girl.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: And I've mentioned this before and I'm gonna mention it
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: again because that's my whole thing here. This does not
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: happen in the books. This is not so it is
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: just gratuitous. So carry in the books it would still
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: be gratuitous. You don't have to do this stuff. So
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: what like, what was the reason?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So you're saying the situation with Master Master Faster Wild
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that didn't happen in the books. No, at least it
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: was an odd What was the reason?
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Right? What was the reason?
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Asked Sarah has who wrote wrote this episode or Claire Kilner,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: who directed the episode.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: What was the.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Reason we know that the men in this world have
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: been lusting over children and following them their until their
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: whole lives to have this make that blatantly clear in
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: his discussion with her and then force himself on her
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: like and then she is at the mercy of his
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: word versus hers.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Right, and faminess the master.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Or on.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: He's on some bullshit, but not that bullshit, Thank goodness
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: That Like, not only was that scene so like what
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I said about feeling bad for her, but it's just
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like it also just made me angry because I'm just like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: why does this have to be this way? And to
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: your very point, and it's very indicative of real life, right,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: It's just like my word versus hers and the fact
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that yeah, like you said, or while be on that bullshit,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: but this time was actually seeing what he saw what occurs.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: But it's just like, so unless you see it for
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: your own eyes, if you did it, you would have
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: potentially just believed the mass of the laws. Right, the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: sergeant or whatever the fuck he is in that world,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't even.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Fully denying it. That's what made it worse.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Season really fully don he was just saying, she's a trader.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I can do what every thought I want to do.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Right, And that's what and that's the that's the other problem,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, I found out some function about her,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to do this to her, like I'm
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: gonna rape her. Like that doesn't give you license to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: do that. And we could argue about what happens in
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: this particular world the story world is fandom whatever, but
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: it's just it was just so extra and egregious and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I just it had no rhyme or reason. And I'm
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: not saying it ever has rhyme or reason. I'm saying,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: like why in this particular case, just to show how
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: vile Jasper is, like who has.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Never been relevant this whole time?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: So like that, why like why are we doing this?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: And again not all men, but always a man. I
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: just it really, it really it bothered me to no level.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: And then I really again, I'm really glad you mentioned that,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: just that whole interaction, like cause for a second it
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: looked like they was looking Alison like, oh, yeah, this
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: is on you, like you're the Jezebel and you're the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you're the Tarpie that has you know, come
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: in and caused all of this even though she was
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: running around.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: But that's the whole thing too. It's like the he
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: was in this is this is how schemey and like
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: trifling and you know, you know now that I'm like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I have the
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: answer for wives is happening. It's still not a good answer,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: but I can see this being your answer.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: We end the episode with the og man in her
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: life who shaped and shifted who she is in this
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: present moment. I don't high Tower and what happened for
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: her to get in the situation with Jasper was that
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: she knew who she could trust to be around her
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: as she's making her moves, and she used she could
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: not trust the King's guard who is assigned to her.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Was his name is Rick to something regard whatever he like?
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: He is large, isn't it large margin?
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, because I get similar to the name for the
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: city watch guy, and that's why my brain is yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: that's the other that he's just like large.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Something too, So it's like that mixed them up.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: But anyways, he saw her going up the stairs and
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: he was like, hey, I haven't seen you all day?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Where you've been And she was like, I've been doing stuff.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: He was like, well, you know that's trans supposed to
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: be out of my like protection. I should be I
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: should be with you. She was like, actually, I do
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: need your protection. Go check on a small council room
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: aboutstead of a meeting. I need you to secure that area.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And he's like and she's like, no, no, no, go
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: secure the area. So the first thing that Jasper says
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: to her is that homeboy told me that when she's
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: been up to and now I'm here, so you can't
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: tell me that the freaking Kingsguard captain did not know
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: that she that Jasper had designs on Alison.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: He knew how closely this man isn't following what Alison's
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: been up to because he knew.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: The first person to go talk to about it was Jasper,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: So why would he do the master He didn't talk
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: to anybody else in the small council. He went straight
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to Jasper, So why would he do that because he's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: not he's not fucking with Alison because he doesn't think
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: that a woman she were doing all this stuff, she's.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Doing well because of Alison. They opened up the city
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: for her. Everybody laid down, everybody bent the knee, well
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: most people, right, But it's.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Not it's not like Allison, but this is against soft power.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: It's not like Alison actively went into everybody, y'all need
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: to lay down your arms.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Well she did only but only the Maine mainly.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't tell the people in King's Landing. She
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: didn't like, she didn't tell we want to castle what
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: to do or whatever. She just went to the people
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: who like the would you have the weapons, you have the.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Square, the people who marry you.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: But that's all you need to talk about. Like the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: NPC's gonna do what they need to do, right and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and and also like I call them NPCs, But again,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: it reminds me of something else that that been on
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the often says like the fact that like you got
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: this big war happening, and then you just got the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: common folk just caught up in between all this bullshit
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: and you as you saw, you got like you saw
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: it all over right, and especially in Kingsland, and when
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: them dragons when old and them started flying over heavy
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: right near and it's just sheer terror because it's just like,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: oh my god, they bought their bullshit here the target
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: areas bought their bullshit to my home right like, and
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: they have nowhere to go, like people some people running
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: back in their home. I said, you did because your
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: ship going up in flames. People trying to run out
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and leave the city ain't nowhere to like where you're
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: gonna end up. Like it's like, as an NPC, why
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: do I have to go through this? Like why do
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I Why can't I have peace too? You know, it's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: it's just and and I'm you know, I'm wearing the shirt.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: But like when we watch you know, I called the
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Duncan Eggs show, you got to see everything from their perspective.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So I did appreciate, you know, like you said, the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: city opening up for rnering them, but also how it
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: affects and mentally affects these people who was in the street,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: because I know there was kids looking up like I'm
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: gonna die today, right, Like it's just it's it's.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: A lot, but traumatic, it's a lot.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: But even when people were trying not to balance that
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: made it happen. Just like she was able and unfortunately
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: she had to deal with aiming too. We talk about
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: sexual violence, but she got aiming out up out of there,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and you know, Amy was doing his weird shit with
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: her last last time. But she got aiming up out
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: of there to go to Harron Hall. She you know,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: was talking all the commanders and all this other stuff.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: She she thankfully got got away from Jasper and she
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: had there was like pretty much no opposition. It's like
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: everything she said to Rniera that she was gonna do,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: she did, right. She said, I don't want blood spilled.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that the gates is open and
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: that people and with the exception of like that was
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: few guards that but again.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: She didn't tell them what to do.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: She ain't tell them what to do, right. But but
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: with the exception of a few the few guards like
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: which Damon dispatched very easily, you didn't have to worry
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: about it. You got fucking Eggon and Larish it, you know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: fucking west bumblefuck trying to run away and they by
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the way, and they got free because and then what
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: was that about? There was just some some bandits on
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the road or I don't think I was about.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I think that I think that's why I think that's
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: exactly why Laris pushed Homeboy to capture them rather than
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: kill them, because he knew that, like there's enough defeated
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: lands happening, like like between the two armies that like
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: at some point they were gonna run into the like
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: the Green Army, and they would.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it might have been like just vener a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: lord list that they got him up with, Okay, somehow
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: got away, Okay, Okay, there is no king. There is
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: no king on the throne. You have Helena, who is
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: what queen regent, and she's gonna listen to her mother.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: So she did everything she says she would.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: But it's so funny how like Alison was like, don't
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: even worry about it.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go talk to the commander. You just not
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: like you're the queen. You're gonna say, make this command.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: He's like, She's like, from you're queen, Helena, commands this.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And Helena was like, uh, yeah, I command what she
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: just said.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Right Now here comes the hard part about keeping promises, ah,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and whether you know things are super intentional or you're
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: kind of pushed into it. Remember we said earlier just
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: about ring Neerer wasn't really in the right mind to
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: execute at that point, right, like, and we talked. And
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: when I say execute, I don't literally need the act
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of unliving someone. I literally I also mean just get
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: things done in the name of you capturing the throne. Right,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: So you went to the throne room. You scared it
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: hell seeing that thrown again. Like, I don't know if
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: she'sn't even been there since the time she fled when
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: she was younger. I don't know, Well, besides her sneaking
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: around Western Roast with Alison, not West Roast, but Kingslandon
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: with Alison. Then you know she's yelling at yeah, her
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: yelling about needing Agon because she has to kill him,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and she was prepared for him like she would I
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: guess she claimed she was prepared to because it was
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: a son for a son, because that was the deal
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: with Allison, right, and then she would have sent the throne.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: You thought it was gonna be one way, but it
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: was the other way. Now, what was you gonna say?
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Two things? Real quick?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: One got to note that the first thing that Agon
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: does whenever he's freed from the carriage is to murder
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: someone very in his character. To be fair, the guy
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: was like, I gotta keep you inside, and he was
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: just like nah, and.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Just like wait berserk and then that Helena.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: The first thing she said to Alison was like, didn't
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: we didn't you have this the choice to let ring
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: have r Nearer take the throne in her first place?
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Aren't we only here because you said you heard our
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: father say that he want egg On on the throne.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: And then whenever Allison was like, oh yeah, like you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: who knows what I heard? Like because Helena she when
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: she's ready to talk her stuff.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: She doesn't and she does it so easily. So breez
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: with Helena, don't give a fuck.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: She just I.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Thought, I thought, aren't you the lady who's who made
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: all this happen? Aren't you the one who told everyone
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: that the Lincen session was supposed to not include?
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I just and how are we here? Listen?
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: But we're here now, right?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: But that's why alisaid, I'm like, even your cause she
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: didn't even have an answer for that.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: So again we told the thing about all of this,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: it's all about timing, too, write very poor timing the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: way things happen, so like, for example, as all this
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: is happening, like when nearing them arrive and they're they're
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: walking through the castle, they going to the throne. You know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: they're doing anything, Damon doing anything. At the same time, Alison,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Helena and the boy Helena's or the Helena's shot her daughter. Okay, helena'schild,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: They're trying to escape, and I'm like, they an't go
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and get out. It was just a mess. And I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: was like it was too.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: If Allison had been if she'd been a little bit quicker,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: she'd actually like be quicking the net, she'd actually spoken.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: To the city Watch or whatever day ahead.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: And right and had them like.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Like she tossed the city Watch, and then she had
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: her baggage ready to go, like as soon as she
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: got to the gates, she's like, Okay, now we're gonna
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: we're gonna ride off.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Don't don't look over here, had her carry on ready
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: to go. You know, right now is demanding Egon. Agon's
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: clearly not there. And for Damon, it's just the timing
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: of it all. For Damon to find out about the
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: gift that you know, Laris left him and like, here's my.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Thing, because I know this in my notes, I said,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: like mother, like son like so Jace went into the
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Battle of the Gullet knowing that it was possibly a trap.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Raynier went to King's Landing against the advice of her counsel,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: and they were saying that it was a trap, and
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: she's like, whatever.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Why is now?
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Why's Damon going in? So, sir Laris, who you know
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: is full of it, you go, you follow a man
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: who says he has a gift for you into a
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: dark chamber like literally the screen was completely dark for
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: a good minute, and the man just follows him in
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: there because he's Damon, Like are you serious?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Damon, Damon is the boogieyman. So Damon is Damn
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the yaga.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: He's like, ain't nothing batter than me. Let's let's go
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: see this, go check this out. Like I just anyways,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: for that I knew it was Otto.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Like as soon as I know it was a cell,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, it's Auto because who else is
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: that going to be?
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: That is a gift? You know what I mean? Like
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: that's outto.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. That was Damon's idea to said,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: well you don't got AGM, but this is the next
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: best thing, right with AUTA.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Who's So back to Helena's question that I just brought up,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: how did we get here, who what is the reason?
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Who did it? It was Auto?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Why didn't Alison have an answer for Helena because she
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: was following Auto?
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: The person who needed to answer for all this is Auto.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Damon's not wrong with that, said very reluctantly. It's not nosed,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: you know, veneroln public Ranera ends up beheading Otto and
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like I said, right on time because the command the
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: King's watch whoever end up finding Allison and Lenna and
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: bring them to the throne room. And that's the first
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: thing Allison sees. Do you blame or are you? Are
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: you even concerned about what happens next? About what Allison's
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: response is going to be?
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: To that?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: She said there will be no and couldn't remember it.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: We could talk about, well, I had no choice. I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: had to do this. I mean literally, Raynerra was all
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: not faced, and Damon was like, you have to do this.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Everybody's watching, like you gotta do queendom and.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: This is how you become key.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: This is how you become queen, right, this is how
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: you do this. And you know she was shaky about it,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: but she made it happen. She's sitting up there and.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Hit him first.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: He yells right, and he was like, I don't want
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: to be hacked that. I said, well, she's gonna be
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: hacking boy because she ain't ready.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: He gave her the broad sword like that was actually
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: like Damon gave her the right weaponry for that, because like,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: was she.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: Going to do on her sword? Yes, with his though
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: it's like butter like, I like, it's not it was.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: It was a good choice.
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I think, like you were saying earlier, there's a lot
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: of reasons why she was bubbling when it came to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: taken out auto because as corrupt and decrepit as that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: man had been to her this whole time, he was
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a father figure to her once upon a time.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: He was her father's best friend. She did, like have
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: a life. She did just have a moment.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Where she dealt with the like mortality of her own son,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and when given the option of beheading the people who
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: had betrayed.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Her, was like, what does it serve?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: So like she is seeing the futality of like just
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: like getting rid of people's.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Lives in a moment. But she really needed to.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Put that away, and she did enough to do it,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: but not enough to not like be messy and like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: walk in his blood, take bloody footstuss.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Crying on.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: And that's the whole thing.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I think her being very adamant about taking out Eggon
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't just because because like if you notice when she's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: when she first goes to the throne room and Damn
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: is like, it's your throne, She's like, it's not until
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I get egg on. The whole there's a whole adage
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: that is about the iron throne that it cuts whoever
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: it's unsuited for it, like you cannot sit the throne,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: well if you don't actually do what's necessary to sit
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: the throne.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: So she knows that if she doesn't sits in that throne,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be uncomfortable.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: It's gonna there's like a couple different he said, the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: mad King, especially like Dunaris's father, he would always have
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: cuts on his body because he was not suited for
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: that throne. Like, so there's like a whole thing that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: goes on about that. So she knows this and she's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: conscious of it.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: She's trying to do.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Whatever she's gotta do to be worthy to sit on
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: that throne. And so she gets up there and she's
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: crying and it's like you kind of she kind of did,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: it's necessary to be on the throne, but kind of not,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and it's not it's not great.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just looking at Alison's face when she
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: saw her father's body, and it's just like, I mean,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: y'all have this coming. But it's also like damn like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: because when you're looking at her, like my fault son.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I know. We said no bloodshed, but and there was nothing.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Just all I said.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Allison said she didn't want any bloodshed. She said, I'd
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: rather she said, this is why I'm delivering the city.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: She said, I want to deliver the city to you,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: no bloodshed. She just wanted everybody to get free. Now
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that didn't necessarily I don't know if she even realized
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: maybe she knew that her father was in the prison
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the whole time.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she realized.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: She didn't know that because she said under the impression
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: that he was with her her okay, with her son
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: actually because that's because.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I will say this, the moment they found out, regardless
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: of they were that they were told or not, the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: moment they found out, a lot of a lot of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: otto was down there. He was gonna die. Yeah, so
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you know it. Probably it was gonna happen one way
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: or another. But it's just you just see again another
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: feeling or fail, some betrayal in the Allison's face. She
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: was just like we said.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: But here's my thing. In the after show, the actress
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: says that Allison knows that she and her daughter have
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: to get out of King's Landing because even if even
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: if she's done of her end of the bargain, there
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: has to be an example made, and she's not the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: example exact.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: So here's my thing. One, she didn't even know her
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: father was around two.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: This like her face can very well be oh crap,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I even know he was around here?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: How did I have to two? It's also a little
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: bit of relief, like I'm not gonna get my head chopped.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: He died for me. That's not me. That's not me.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: You don't think she's gonna be angry?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: What is again?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Am I saying she got a right to be? I'm
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: just saying, do you think she's gonna be angry?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know that her anger is going to be
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: anywhere near where it would be if someone.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Had taken out Helena.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Like the love she has for Auto is not the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: same kind of love she has for Like clearly Helena
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: is the person she loves the most in the world
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I mean Otto groomed her to get up there in
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the first place. As as the Queen.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Tay, they feel like she has a lot of resentment
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: towards that.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I think, again, I don't know that she.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like she probably.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Like if I wear in her shoes, it would be
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: more of a relief that someone that is a central figure,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: more central figure than she is to all of the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: charad that led to this moment is the one who's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: taken out, And so she might live another day because
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: the other particket.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: So she might just be like welp them to breaks,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Like she might try to play it up to try
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: to see what she get from it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: But like at the end of the day, she's.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Done enough stuff herself that is better for her to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: point the finger to someone who's already dead than to
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: like let that be her issue.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Got it?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Okay? All right? Did we talk about everything this episode
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: or did we hit all the points, all the people,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: all the plans and we didn't.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Talking about your favorite amens and him?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Oh amen, his late ass. Yeah, I didn't talk about
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: him because I'm like you all behind, sir. So the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: fact that he fell for it and went off to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Harron Hall, and I forgot the name of the the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: guy who owns Harron Hall, the woman the strong right,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: he pulled up as strong and Strong was like, well
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: a shit going on here?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: First of all, Haroon Hall is so ghetto, so so
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: so so, but also like.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: He was early, he was part of the like debarchery earlier. Yeah, right,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: so he was just like you're here now, but they.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Ain't ship here for you, like okay, and Aimin is dead,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Like Amon really want to be Damon so bad. He
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: really want to be Damon so bad. And when I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: had said earlier about like Damon don't got a dragon,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Damon is still baba yaga. Right, Amen got a dragon,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: you got some hands, but you ain't the same you were.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: You and him, it's not the same. So Amen pulling
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: up that's why like strong was like, well, my boy,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: you know you can just no one's here to fight
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: you just take it right, And Amen is just dead
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: set on. I gotta be a conqueror. I gotta be
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: doing something. He slays him and the sons for whatever reason.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: But one of the sons got got a stab in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: on him, right, and I was trying to figure out
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: was it just a really good stab or was it
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: like poisoned or what?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: And they're really a poison house, Well they can't know.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Parenhall can't be okay, treacherous, but they're not really.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: A poison Okay. It was just a good It was
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: just a good yeah, okay. And also why I was
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: talking about poison because then Alice Rivers appears. Remember we
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: also heard earlier Alice have that conversation with Damon where
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: before Damon was about to go help Herniera, she was
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: just like, well I want hairing Hall. Nobody cares about
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: hair in Hale. I should be the one. And he
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: had again a very patriarchical conversation about well, you're a
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: woman who ain't got ship, so why should you get
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: the castle?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, but let's be real here, as long as we here,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I hate the patriarchy. I will never I will never
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: argue on the stance of patriarchy.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: However, he wasn't wrong all the way.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: When have you ever in your life hurt someone be
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: rewarded for being in the shadows.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: What did you do? Why are you getting? Why would
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: you get a like why would you get a whole man?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Like a whole bit? Like why? Why? Who has ever
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: done that?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: And Damon has a similar situation a conversation with but
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: in a little differently, but with Ranera's yeah, but sorry,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: what is she not bedmaids advice?
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: She well, she.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, that's what's with Damon. But when we
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: talk about people in the Shadows being rewarded, like, but
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: that's the thing.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Is that, like because little Finger, everybody's behind her, it
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. My thing is like the series and the Shadows.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: But she's like she knows that she's asking for. Whatever
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: she's asking for is like within the like is the
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: realm whenever she's adding to the peace versus Alice River's doing?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: What is she? So?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I feel like she she's she she's shooting for the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: she's aiming for the stars, landing on the moon. She trying,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: that's my thing. I'm like, she's I'm like, that's what
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I wrote my note. I'm like, Damon knows that she
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: is playing some kind of game here.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: That's why he smiles at this because he's like, we
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: both know that you're asking me this for a reason,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: because I feel like that's the whole thing about witches
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: and fairy tales, right, Like they tend to like ask
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: for something that is like way out of here. Very
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: rarely do they ask for something within reasonable like confines.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Like I need to eat your kids, just like hold on,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: hold on with let's back this up. In them fairy tales,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: they often get what they want, do they?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Though? Like with Rapunzel, she got repuzzle.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: For a minute, but then what I get it for
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: a minute and then I think it's bad?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: We care, but like and those are we can also
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: talk about the patriarchy of fairy tales and how they
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: set up women who are single and like, you know,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: doing their own lives to be like the scary the
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: like villains of the story and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: That's the whole aside, But it could apply to Alice
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Rivers because like, who is she?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: What are her motives? What is she? Who is she
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: moving forward? What is she doing?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Claim she wants to airn Hall and.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: What is the reason why would you ask for that?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: What there has to be or she some well, yeah,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: it's obviously a reason for some type of but because
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: of the conversation she had with Damon, which left the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: bad taste of her uh Damon, yes, which left the
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: bad taste in her mouth. Now you have aim in
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: situation with him collapsing in front of her. Is she
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: about to help aim In now?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Because we have been amenis mentioned this before.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Amon and Damon's stories are going to be parallels to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: each other because that's how the whole story is set up.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, did I hit everybody? Did we hit
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: everybody in there?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: I was gonna just say that.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: It's just noticeable that he's walked in there without his
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: eyepatch on, Like he puts.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: On his eye for talk him out, but not for battle.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Like He's like, I wasn't add about because Damon is
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: the boogey Man, but he wants to look like the Boogeyman.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: No, you you don't have the range.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. No.
• 1:10:40
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