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- 0:04SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to another episode of Small Ball with Kenny Beacham.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited to be here to talk all things hoops.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: I think today is a good place to be to talk about some disappointing players across basketball, man.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: I know we did this about a month into the season, but a lot of things have changed.
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: Some of the people that made my all-disappointed team a month into the season have turned it up.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Before we even get into that, can I please just give you the brief, the very, very brief intro to this?
- 0:32SPEAKER_00: Because what happened last time I did all disappointing teams, it was taken out of context.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Which is like the internet taking things out of context?
- 0:39SPEAKER_00: It couldn't be.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: These are players.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: I have 10 today, and then I let the audience, you guys at home, select another five.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: So we have like an all-NBA team, but it's all disappointed team.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: These players are disappointing to me.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: These are not the 10 most disappointing players of the entire season.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: That's not like I would have John Moran and I would have some of these other dudes.
- 0:58SPEAKER_00: So I think last time I did this, it was definitely taken out of context of like, how can this player be here when this player is playing so much worse than him?
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: That's not the way I really, really do things around here.
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: A lot of the players on this list, if not all the players on this list, I had some level of expectations for it.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: That's how you get disappointed.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: My personal expectation and how they performed throughout.
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: Actually, it's so crazy that I got one true all-star on this team.
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: Kenny, he's an all-star, but he's disappointed too.
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: Things like that can happen.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: All right?
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: Things like that can happen.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: And also, just because they made the whole disappointed list, don't mean you got to tweet me a month later saying, look, Kenny, he's doing better.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: Good.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: They're disappointed to this point.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: That don't mean that they're gonna be trash the rest of the season.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: That don't mean that their career's over because we got young guys on here too.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: It just blows my mind how it goes.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: And listen, we as a company are somewhat to blame for that as well because part of our job is to clip things up and put them up on social media.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: But this intro won't make it to social media.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: It'll just be Kenny said so-and-so is disappointed without the context.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: And I guess I gotta live with the results.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: All right, but before we get into all of that, a weird thing happened in the NBA the other day.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: Um, Russell Westbrook came to the podium and called out all the pieces of Sacramento Kings media, which is like, you know, Brody has done something like this on a couple different of his stops.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: He did it in OKC.
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: This is this is something that he does occasionally.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: But the reason I'm bringing this up at the top of the show is because we just did an episode of Numbers on the Board where we gave one thing we learned about all Western conference teams.
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: And we did it in order of standings.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: And as you know, the Sacramento Kings are in the middle of the worst season in franchise history, so they were the last team that we talked about.
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna be honest with you.
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: If you watched that episode, you know I didn't have anything that I learned about the Sacramento Kings.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: You want to know why.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: Because everything that has happened this season is, you know, par for the course.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: I made a joke a couple weeks ago on Twitter that didn't go over well for Sacramento Kings fans.
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: And I understand when somebody takes a shot at your team, whether they're the worst team in the league, the best team in the league, you're gonna get defensive.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: You're gonna stand up for your guys.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: I respect that.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: The joke that I made was I was starting to watch some of these other guys.
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: I was starting to watch Darren Peterson, Cam Boozer, AJ DeBontes of the world, the Caleb Wilsons of the world.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: And my joke was, man, one of these guys is gonna end up in Sacramento.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: You know?
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: And it had nothing to do with the fan base, it has nothing even to do with the players that are currently on the roster.
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: It's had everything to do with the ownership group and the management group.
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: And Russell Westbrook went out there and he called out the media for whatever reason.
- 3:27SPEAKER_00: I don't read Sacramento King's blog posts.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't know what's going on between the George Reporter and Russell Westbrook.
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: I don't know what he said or who was right and who was wrong.
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: But what I do know is that Russell Westbrook is a guy that usually doesn't talk too much unless these key buzzwords or buzz things happen.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: Like you start to call him out of his name, obviously.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: You start to question his integrity as a person and things like that.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of the times if you talk about the basketball stuff, Russell Westbrook, he cares, but he doesn't care enough to call you out.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: So I don't know exactly what happened there, but it it kind of encompasses like all of the wrong things that are happening in Sacramento, not the media, not Russell Westbrook, but like how how did that how did that video go on for as long as it did?
- 4:09SPEAKER_00: As somebody that has been in that scrum before, uh just just a few times, by the way, just a few times.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: It's not like I'm there on a nightly basis.
- 4:15SPEAKER_00: The PR team is pretty, pretty on edge when it comes to these things.
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: There are certain questions that they may get asked, but the PR team would step in and say, no, no, no, we can't do that.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: There's certain times where the PR team just comes up and say, okay, Russell Westbrook is done for the day because they feel like things are about to get heated and this is not good PR.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: They let Brody go for like seven minutes, calling out everybody in the room.
- 4:38SPEAKER_00: And it was just, it was awkward for Russell Westbrook.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: It was awkward for the people in that room because though Brody called them out, he didn't call them out for specifics.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: Then I don't read the blog posts that the Kings are doing.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: So I would have loved for Brody to be like, hey, you right there, you wrote this, and I don't like that.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: But when they asked him, what specifically are you talking about, he's just like, I be reading the stuff.
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, damn, bro, this is your time to really go.
- 5:00SPEAKER_00: And then when the people were called out, they didn't stand on their ground.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: So it was just nobody looked good in the situation.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that is the toughest part about it all, you know?
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, Darren Peterson, who just had another amazing game, might end up in Sacramento or Cam Booz or AJ DeBons or Caleb Wilson.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: At this point, the lawyers taking go as five.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: So who's the fifth guy?
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: Is it Kingston Fleming?
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: I don't even know who the fifth guy is.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: One of those guys is gonna end up in Sacramento next season.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: And though a lot of those guys that I just mentioned have have the opportunity and the potential to turn things around, I just look at the way the team is ran and I just don't have a lot of hope, right?
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: Darren Peterson could be the best prospect since Victor Wembenyama, since Cooper Flag just last season.
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: But do we feel like the management group is gonna make the right decisions around him if they get that talent?
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: You know, that that is the thing we talk about all the time when it comes to tanking.
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: The thing that that matters the most is having the fans have some level of hope at the end of the day.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure Kings fans are hopeful because this is a terrible season and they're guaranteed a top five pick, right?
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: Or top top five pick.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: But then I think that that hope will eventually die down because you recognize that, yeah, we got this young 18, 19-year-old in the door, but the man is making the decisions, has been making decisions for the last 15 years, and it feels like he's made one great decision this entire time.
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, Kings fans.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm rooting for you, not for the organization.
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: Because damn it, I think the Vivek should be selling.
- 6:24SPEAKER_00: I think that everybody in there should be fire, but I'm rooting for the fan base more than anything because that fan base cares.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: And they still are packing out the house, even though it's like, I don't know, DeMar DeRose and long mid-range jumpers.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: It's late in the season.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Like, you know what I mean?
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: There's some crazy stuff going on.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: So shout out to the Kings.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Uh the Russell Westbrook, they was a little bit weird.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: Can we get into these disappointing teams?
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Like I mentioned, I have 10 players myself.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: This is not, I didn't actually break it into a first team, second team, so there's no real ranking here.
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: It's just that these 10 guys have been disappointed.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: And I'll start off with one that I ended last episode with last week.
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: Um, DeAndre Aiden.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: I don't know how we can get to disappointing teams, and I'll mention the name DeAndre Aiden.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: And because we talked about it at the end of last episode, I won't go too far into the disappointing reasons.
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: But DeAndre Aiden was gifted a blessing in the curse.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: A blessing in the way that Clink Capella looked at it is you you have two of the best pick and roll ball handlers of all time on your team right now, and you still are losing minutes and you're still not looking great.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: But also a curse because there's there's no bigger pressure in the NBA than playing for the Los Angeles Lakers, specifically the Los Angeles Lakers when you got Braun, specifically the Los Angeles Lakers when you got Luka Donich.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: And I think that he wouldn't be disappointing.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: Oh, he still would be disappointed.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: But the fact that he started the season off by saying, I don't care about the actual stats, my offensive stats, I want to impact the game and win, and then we get 60 games into the season, 65 games to the season, and that is gone completely awry.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I just be wishing the play, like, don't set yourself up.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: You remember D'Angelo Russell a couple couple years ago that was like, yeah, I'm coming into the season, I'm trying to be like Derek White.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: Why would you why would you put the expectations on yourself like that?
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: You could have just been, you you could have just came in and thinking, even if you think that you want to be um uh Derek White, don't say it publicly.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: Just do it and then let us adjust.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: Let us be the person to be like, damn, DeAndre Russell low, he is kind of playing like Derrick White.
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: But when you put those lofty expectations on yourself and you don't pull through, then now it just looks worse.
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: DeAndre Aiden, believe it or not, is still one of the best finishers in all of basketball.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: How are we shooting 70% from the field and you still are disappointing, my guy?
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: It's not an easy role, but it definitely is not a tough role either.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: And when you go even further back to to think about, you know, one of the first questions he was asked when he was drafted is what is your goal as an NBA player?
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: His his goal was to make it to the second contract.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: And he got that second contract, it was a big ass contract, and sister.
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: Oh goodness.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: A lot of the conversations about is this the end?
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: I saw him on a graphic that some Lakers fan put together about all of the players that got their last stint in LA and then went out of the league.
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: I don't think DeAndre Aiden is there yet because I I still think he provides some level of value.
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: He's just, he just thinks he's more valuable than what he is.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: And I think that is the problem.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: You know, a guy that can shoot 70% from the field is a valuable guy.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: A guy that can close possessions for the most part when he's rebounding is a guy that at least has an NBA roster spot.
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: Now, is he done as a starter in the league?
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: Unless he's going to a really bad team, which maybe is the way he continues to stay in the league.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: But it's been just a disappointing year.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, Luka Doncic has made, and this is not a shot, these guys, Derek Lively going into the season according to ESPN, or at the end of their finals run a few years back, he was the 40th ranked basketball player in the league because of according to ESPN.
- 9:45SPEAKER_00: Because of Luka Doncic.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: Daniel Gaffer, resurgence in Dallas because of Luka Doncic.
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: And you are supposed to have your resurgence, and you did the opposite.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: That's super, super disappointing.
- 10:03SPEAKER_00: Let's get into some of these other guys on the all disappointment list.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: I'm going to start off after DeAndre Aiden again in no specific order.
- 10:11SPEAKER_00: Karis Levert, man, this was an interesting offseason for the Detroit Pistons, Shooter, Malik Beasley.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: You know, they just had Tim Hardaway Jr.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: They had really valuable guys that helped them go on their run last season that were no longer on the roster.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: And then they tried to replace them with guys like Duncan Robs.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: He'd be like, okay, Duncan Robson, they can pull off some Malik Beasley type of things.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: And Dennis Shooter was gone.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Eventually Dennis Jenkins jumped up.
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: And I guess Dennis Jenkins for the last month has not been very good.
- 10:38SPEAKER_00: But like, okay, now we got some extra ball handling here because of this guy.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: And then we got Karis LeVert, who's definitely not Tim Hardaway Jr.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: when it comes to their play styles, but like he can mimic some of the Tim, you know, one thing about Karis Avert, by the way, is that every team by the end of his tenure with that team, every team he's been with has wanted him off the team.
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: And we're already there for Detroit 60 games into the season.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: But the one thing that I'd valued a lot about Karis LeVert, and even the numbers back this up as well, that Kerris Avert had been a really good off-the-bench guy to maintain.
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: One of the things I really admire, especially from a off-the-bench ball handler slash secondary creator, is that when my star player or my starter goes to the bench, can you just maintain the lead that we've we have?
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Can you make sure that if if Kay Cunningham is out after his first stint, we're down by four, then when he checks back in, they're not down by 14.
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: And throughout the course of Karras's career, that has been the case.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: He had been a guy that came off the bench, and even if his overall counting stats weren't that amazing, he was a guy that was pretty steady and held the second unit down.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: This is the first year of his career that that's just not the case, where the team is wildly worse when he is on the court.
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: Other times it's like net neutral, which is like great for a bench player, honestly.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: Now is this not the case.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: And then you watch some of these games like 0 for 7 from the field in a couple turnovers.
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: Yikes.
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: That's just super disappointing because he had, again, big shoes to feel when you consider the three guys that they lost this offseason.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: And Duncan Robson's been fine.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: Um, trying to replace, I'm putting that in quotation marks for the audio listeners, replace the Malik Beasley production.
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: And Karis just has not lived up to it whatsoever.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: And when you think about the tough parts of the Detroit Pistons team when it comes to creation and secondary creation, Karis LeVert has an opportunity to be one of those guys that can alleviate some of that pressure from Cade, and it just not has happened this season.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: So disappointed list.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: Next guy is Paolo Bencaro.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: Now, I will say before we start talking about the disappointment that is Paulo Bencaro's season, he has been playing a lot better as of recent, which is which is dope.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: I also believe that the conversation around Paolo has gone to left field, right?
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: Palo is still a very good ball player.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: When you start to account for contract and playstyle, then yeah, we can have a conversation about what his ceiling is as an NBA player, but it is still a tough conversation to have because he is, what, 23, 24 years old.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: So I think he's been disappointed in this season.
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: But I will be, I think you're asinine.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: I think you're a crazy individual if you think that Paolo Benquero, this version of Paolo, is the version that we're gonna get for the rest of his career.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: Is it possible?
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: But I just that's not something I'll be willing to bet my money on.
- 13:06SPEAKER_00: This guy's a talented guy.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: And yes, I think he still takes too many tough mid-range jump shots.
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: But if you look at the numbers, it's down like 7% compared to last season.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: And 7% may not seem like a lot.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: But when you're talking about 17% of his uh shots come from long two versus 10%, that's going in the right direction, ain't it?
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: You talk about him getting to the basket.
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: One thing you can always value is that Palomancaro's one of the top foul draws in basketball.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: You consider his physique and his size, that is where I want him to be as a ball player completely.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: So I do believe there's some things that make me feel like there could be an eventual shift to his season.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: Also, the team has been in and out.
- 13:42SPEAKER_00: There's so many players between Suggs and Franz and Moby just being back.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: There's so many different question marks on a night-to-night basis with this roster that I do believe that Paolo Benquero has been overtaxed.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: If you want to tell me that you don't believe Paulo Benquero is a guy that can't be the number one option on the good on a really good team, I'm not even gonna call you crazy for that.
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: But there are some people that have, again, taking it just a little bit, a little bit too far.
- 14:03SPEAKER_00: And it's hard for me.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: And now listen, Paulo is the guy that is missing the shots.
- 14:07SPEAKER_00: I understand that, I recognize that.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: But I do believe there's like a there's a culture thing that needs to be done.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Jamal Mosley.
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: But when I watch this team play offensively, there's a lot to be desired.
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: There's there's a lack of creativity on the offensive side of the ball for this team on a night-to-night basis.
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: And I think that's how we get to the point where it is dwelled down to Paolo Bencaro do something to save us three possessions out of five.
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: And those are tougher shots.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: And I think that there is a, I don't know who that guy would be, but I feel like there's enough on this roster where just somebody that will be a little bit more creative offensively could get Paulo Benquero to the point where he isn't a true shooting towards the bottom of the league guy, the least efficient mid-range jump shooter since so and so, like all of these things that have that he's been this season.
- 14:55SPEAKER_00: And I just I just watch Paolo in the in the in the side.
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: Let me go look at these stats real quick because I actually did not put it into my notes.
- 15:02SPEAKER_00: But Paolo, when you think about him being the size that he is, and and I've seen listed 6'10, I've seen 6'9, I've seen 6'11, I don't know, depending on what sites you're gonna be using.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Him as a roll man this season, only 4% of his possessions this year is him as a roll man.
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: And when you think about this, like I just feel like he should be used in the pick and roll more.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: Um, 18% of his possessions are coming as the ball handler in the picket roll, and only 4%, 4.7 to be exact, uh percent of his possessions are coming as a roll man.
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, there's there's gotta be more there.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: There's gotta be more.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: He's been using the post up about 10% of the time, and he's very good in the post, and that's just not him shooting out of the post, that's creating out of the post.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: So there's gotta be more to just isolation, which is what a lot of Palo Bencaro's um turning into.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: And I still am a believer in Palo.
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: I just think that so far this season, it has been disappointing.
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: But if you told me next year that Jamal Mosley is gone and Franz Vaughn is completely healthy, and you look at what Jalen, uh Jalen Sucks, is able to do as an impact player, even if his jump shot's not around, and um Anthony Black's resurgence this season.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: I think, and I'm sorry, Desmond Bain has been on a tear for the last 30 games and nobody cares.
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: There is stuff here to make you feel like, okay, bad season, maybe season from hell, next year it should be better.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: And maybe it won't.
- 16:16SPEAKER_00: But I'm still optimistic and hopeful for Palo Bencaro in this team.
- 16:19SPEAKER_00: I do think that they probably have to make a decision with Jalen Suggs um soonish, or maybe Palo A France, because Anthony Black, I think you're just not gonna deal him anytime soon, and he's gonna be up for a contract.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that money's gonna look like, but it's already a hella expensive team.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: So they may have to make some structural things come up, but Paolo Bencaro, disappointed.
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: Next name.
- 16:39SPEAKER_00: Again, this is by my my own personal expectation.
- 16:43SPEAKER_00: Jakapurtle.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: Jaka Purdle, man.
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: It's unfortunate because maybe he shouldn't be here because of the injuries because he has been really, really injured the season.
- 16:51SPEAKER_00: He's only played 28 games and, you know, he's finally, finally back into the star lineup.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: But he just signed an extension that was three years,$84 million.
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: And that puts him at this season 30 of$27 million,$29 million, and$27 million at the age of 34.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: And I think my disappointment has to come from the fact that his contract is one of the worst in the league.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: And because of his back issues, he just hasn't been productive as a defensive guy.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: I think over the last couple seasons, you I watched the Toronto Raptors, even in their bad years, and be like, oh, when Yaakapurdo is on the court, he is an impactful player.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: The little push shot, him playing out of the post in the high post, and you know, him being used semi as a hub in occasions, and you just don't get that enough this season.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: And this is, I don't have the numbers to prove about the defensive impact, but again, watching, watching him, I just feel like sometimes they're better off running that super small ass lineup where a CMB as a guy.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: And I think a lot of that has to do with his back, right?
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of that has to do with all the injuries he's endured this season and the expectations that I had from him because he signed this contract, maybe more, maybe is more than what he has been doing.
- 17:52SPEAKER_00: But this year has just been really bad.
- 17:55SPEAKER_00: And though 16% of the the cap for the Toronto Raptors isn't that much, it kind of is at the same time.
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: Because when he signed that contract, I remember tweeting, like, oh, oh, okay, like sure, I guess, because he had already been dealing with some back things before the season even started.
- 18:12SPEAKER_00: And they gave him this big ass extension.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I understand why the Raptors do what they do.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: They're one of the markets that they have to use, you know, free agency and extensions as their way to um get better or trades in extensions, the way to get better because free agency is just gonna be tough for them.
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: So when you have a guy, Jacob Purdo, who's had a couple different stints with his team and is a fan favorite, hell, give him, give him his money, give him his cash.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: But now we're looking back on like, man, if they didn't give him that cash, then they'd probably be in a better spot.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: So, Jacob, you know, again, he's not on the same level as Paulo McCarrow, but just one of those guys.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: Um, lastly, before we get to our next break, and this is this is maybe the last guy on the list, but I did want to talk about it just for a quick second.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: Maybe he is the youngest guy on my list.
- 18:53SPEAKER_00: Uh, Rob Dillam.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: Rob made the month one um all disappointment team, and here he is making almost end of the season one.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: I'm happy that in Chicago he's getting at least a little bit more burned.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: It changes sometimes.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: It's 20 minutes, sometimes it's four minutes.
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: I guess it depends on who's in the lineup.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: And the other night um against the Suns, he had a really good first half, 11 points, yada yada yada.
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: But you still watch him and he fights as a defender.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: He tries to crash the class at six foot even or whatever.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: But it's just tough for me to recognize how he would have a true role on a team eventually.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: And I'm not giving up hope.
- 19:26SPEAKER_00: Hell, I've invested in Rob Dillam because he plays for my team.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: I got a Rob Dillam kaboom card that I paid a ridiculous amount of money for, so I'm hoping that I'm wrong here.
- 19:35SPEAKER_00: But he can't shoot and he can't finish.
- 19:39SPEAKER_00: He's not really a great passer.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: And I just don't, I just don't know a six for guy that can have those things and be a successful NBA player.
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: You know?
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: His jump shot looks like it hurts.
- 19:53SPEAKER_00: As is in like, because he's so he's jumping like seven feet off the ground just to get the shot up on the rim.
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: And some of the turnovers that he has are like Looney Tunes, comical, cartoony turnovers.
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: So, Rob, I'm sorry, I'm praying that we get better and you have a 30-point game here, and boom, just like that, we flip it on, and you're NBA.
- 20:12SPEAKER_00: It's been rough.
- 20:13SPEAKER_00: When we come back, we'll get back into our all disappointment team.
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- 20:49SPEAKER_00: Today's slate of games is pretty interesting.
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: We, you know, it's a smaller slate on a Monday again, but we do got some ones that could potentially be bangers.
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: We got some that I'm gonna watch the highlights of, like uh Grizzlies versus Nets.
- 21:01SPEAKER_00: I don't know who's suiting up in that game, but guess what?
- 21:03SPEAKER_00: I'm watching the highlights of that one, ladies and gentlemen.
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: But we do got like Nuggets versus Thunder, and you know, the Nuggets definitely definitely need a win like this to get the morale back up.
- 21:12SPEAKER_00: The Thunder just won a grinded out game against the Golden State Warriors.
- 21:16SPEAKER_00: So um that's gonna be the game.
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: That win is on Peacock tonight, so be sure to tune in at 7:30 Eastern time.
- 21:22SPEAKER_00: But the first game of the day is the 76ers versus the Cleveland Cavaliers, should be a super fun game.
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: Um, from this game, I did end up taking Tyrese Maxie total points more um in this one.
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: It's been a it's been a really interesting season for Tyrese Maxie where like the overall counting stats can look great on any given night.
- 21:41SPEAKER_00: But as of recent, I just feel like, and this is maybe not even by his own problem, um, because I mean who is he playing alongside?
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: Some of these games is like, man, so just a really tough goal for Tyrese Maxie.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: I I'm also just looking at the fact that he's playing like 39 to 40 minutes a game, and it's like, oh my god, he's gonna run out of steam eventually.
- 21:59SPEAKER_00: He has a tonight.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Against Cleveland, I'm going more on his points.
- 22:02SPEAKER_00: Cool.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: Let's go to again the big game here on uh Peacock.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: Um, I went with Shea Gibbs Alexander more.
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: Like, he's one of those guys that is always near what the line is.
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: You know, he he's a consistent.
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll he you know he's gonna give you 20.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: Actually, if he gives us 20 tonight, he would have uh got more 20-point games consecutively than Will Chamberlain, which is a feat that is kind of crazy.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: 20 points in 2026 may not seem like a lot, and it kind of is not a lot, but to do that 100 and however many times is is nuts.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: And maybe the Nuggets are the team that stop it, but I don't feel like that's gonna be the case.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: I want more on his points.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: Um, two AVP candidates going head to head, even though they're different positions and they may never actually match up against each other.
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: Super interesting stuff.
- 22:45SPEAKER_00: I don't know exactly who's on the injury port for the Thunder because they did miss IHart and Chat in their last game.
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: And then Jamal Murray did tweak his ankle in the last game, so that's like a game time decision for a lot of those guys.
- 22:55SPEAKER_00: But this is the game that I'm gonna get my popcorn ready and I'm closing the office door.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: Don't but don't nobody mess with me during this game because this is maybe the conference final preview.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
- 23:04SPEAKER_00: Uh, next one that we have in our pick set is Jalen Brunson versus the Clippers.
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: That is the last game of the night here on Peacock at 10 o'clock Eastern Time tip.
- 23:13SPEAKER_00: And I win Jalen Brunson more on points in this matchup.
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm hoping that that we will get some Darius Garland.
- 23:19SPEAKER_00: He didn't play in their last game, so hopefully he plays in this one.
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: But I like when the smaller guards match up against each other again, even if they're not actually matching up against each other.
- 23:27SPEAKER_00: And you know, the all-and-off stats for Darius Garland has looked amazing since he got to the Clippers, even if the overall counter stats don't look that good.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: But Jalen Brunson, you know who he is.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: That guy is an absolute killer.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: Even in his bad games, I feel like he's still killing the game.
- 23:39SPEAKER_00: So it's just it's a shorter pick set for me today because again, I don't really know what's gonna happen in that Grizzlies next game, what the star Latin is gonna look like.
- 23:46SPEAKER_00: And then the Warriors versus Jazz, the Jazz are always kind of holding some things.
- 23:51SPEAKER_00: I don't know if Keontae George was 100% playing, he would be in my pick set, but I can't say that for sure as of right now.
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: Uh it's a game that like the Warriors have been somewhat scrappy recently, right?
- 24:01SPEAKER_00: You know, taking OKC to the last minute of the game before Shea had a couple big plays to close it out.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: And, you know, even though there's no Steph Curry for at least another week or so, it can be some interesting stuff going on there.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: It's like, you know, they had a they had um their last game where, you know, uh Cryer checked in, and I'm like, oh my God.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I remember hearing the name, but I hadn't really watched them too much.
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: And then he came in, he had a really good game.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: So they're finding ways.
- 24:25SPEAKER_00: Nate Williams is a guy that, you know, gave them um some production a few games ago.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: So they got a lot of randomness going on over there.
- 24:35SPEAKER_00: But they find a way to stay competitive and stay games, which is kind of interesting.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: Okay, when we come back, we'll get back into our all-disappointing team.
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- 25:16SPEAKER_00: I said I had an all-star on this list, and that all-star is Al Prenchenko.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: And again, these are based on my own expectations for Al P.
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: If you remember, I don't remember if it was on this show or the YouTube channel or numbers on the board.
- 25:27SPEAKER_00: Damn it, I do a lot of shows, okay?
- 25:29SPEAKER_00: I was all in on Al P coming into the season.
- 25:31SPEAKER_00: I just felt like, you know, based on the summer, based on the acquisition of Kevin Durant, that this was about to be one of those breakout seasons.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: And again, he was an all-star this season and he deserves to be an all-star this season.
- 25:43SPEAKER_00: But there's still a lot to be desired.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: And again, that maybe that I had unrealistic expectations for Alpha Shangon, but I think that this season, he even if the counting stats may say he's been better this season, it just don't he, I don't feel like he has the same impact on a night-to-night basis.
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: I think that last year he had done a damn good job of changing the narrative about his young career as a defensive big, right?
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: He was holding it down, he wasn't Rudy Gobert, he wasn't Bam out of bio, but he was serviceable enough to make you feel like cool.
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: As long as he's a serviceable defensive big, when you think about the offensive input and the offensive ceiling, that this is cool.
- 26:21SPEAKER_00: We don't need him to be an all-defensive guy.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: Hell, we got a couple all-defensive guys around him, and he just needs to just hold his own.
- 26:27SPEAKER_00: I just feel like he's falling off a cliff on that side of the ball.
- 26:30SPEAKER_00: I don't, again, don't have any numbers, it's just eye test and you know, watching the recent games.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: And I just, there's a lot to be desired.
- 26:38SPEAKER_00: And again, it's not saying that he can't turn back the clock to last season and be a good defensive player for the rest of the season or even in the playoffs.
- 26:45SPEAKER_00: But, you know, I brought this to the attention of the guys the other day, and then Mike made a very good point.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: He's just saying how much of his down impact, or whatever the word I used, um, the disappointing season for him, how much of that is just him not having a true point guard like a Fred Van Vliet to run actions with.
- 27:02SPEAKER_00: And I was like, it it could be pretty high on that list, right?
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: Because Freddie was pretty steady Freddy.
- 27:06SPEAKER_00: That's what he that's what he does.
- 27:07SPEAKER_00: And he did get Alper Shingoon in a lot of positions offensively where he can be impactful.
- 27:12SPEAKER_00: And maybe I drank the juice that opening night game where he had 17 made threes, whatever the hell it felt like.
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: Um, and I was like, Yeah, this is gonna be his season.
- 27:19SPEAKER_00: But, you know, sometimes it's see sometimes on on the late in these games, they're playing four on three offensively because the opposing team is sending two at Kevin or face guarding Kevin.
- 27:30SPEAKER_00: So maybe it's just a straight four-on-four.
- 27:32SPEAKER_00: And those are the opportunities where I just want to see Al P just be a little bit more productive.
- 27:36SPEAKER_00: He did have a game the other night, I forget who's against.
- 27:38SPEAKER_00: Let me quickly look this up.
- 27:39SPEAKER_00: Well, he did exactly that, and they got that win in their game versus Portland.
- 27:44SPEAKER_00: It was a game versus Washington.
- 27:46SPEAKER_00: It was one of those two games where like Kevin Durant was getting face guarded down the stretch, and I think L P had like 10 points going into the fourth, and he ended up with a really good game.
- 27:54SPEAKER_00: Um, that was their overtime loss against the Warriors because it's in the overtime.
- 27:59SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, so in that game versus the Warriors, they tried to take Kevin Durant out of it for that fourth quarter.
- 28:03SPEAKER_00: I think Kevin may have taken two shots in the fourth quarter, which is even though he's getting face guarded, I think Kevin got to be more aggressive than that.
- 28:08SPEAKER_00: You gotta just come up and shoot that 30 foot if you need to.
- 28:10SPEAKER_00: You feel me?
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: But when they were playing that and they were playing single coverage against Al Prince Shagu, he had like three back-to-back baskets in that fourth quarter, ultimately they end up losing that game.
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: But those are the type of things I kind of want to see from them.
- 28:20SPEAKER_00: But sometimes when it comes to that clutch, if Kevin can't save them and Al P has to throw up this wild shot, it's just it's a lot to be desired.
- 28:29SPEAKER_00: So he has been disappointing to me personally, and maybe that's just my own expectations.
- 28:34SPEAKER_00: Next name on the list, gotta mention Cam.
- 28:36SPEAKER_00: Gotta mention my boy Cam Johnson.
- 28:38SPEAKER_00: It has been one of those years that we mentioned that like the overall counter stats don't look too bad when you talk about his efficiency and all.
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: I think he's shooting still 40% from three.
- 28:46SPEAKER_00: But you've you've seen it this season.
- 28:47SPEAKER_00: He's at 40.5%.
- 28:49SPEAKER_00: You've seen it this season in that game versus OKC.
- 28:52SPEAKER_00: It really boiled down to two missed shots down the stretch.
- 28:55SPEAKER_00: Like he didn't, they didn't lose the game because of him, but two open corner threes for him, and you know, as a 40% three-point shooter or a historic, you know, 40% for his whole career, those are the shots you want to see him make, and he just has not made those as of late.
- 29:08SPEAKER_00: And just overall, production-wise, you know, he's having one of his least productive seasons since his basic rookie season.
- 29:15SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that, you know, there's just a a great difference between what MPJ was providing for them and what Cam is providing.
- 29:24SPEAKER_00: And I think that Cam is not the same player as MPJ, so I don't expect him to go out there and be a, you know, the seven, a six ten shooter over anybody, but it might just take a season before he is super, super impactful in the way that you kind of needed him to be this season.
- 29:39SPEAKER_00: And yeah, some of these games, like eight shot attempts per game, is just not a lot.
- 29:43SPEAKER_00: That that is on par with what he was taking when he was the sixth man for the Suns a few years ago.
- 29:49SPEAKER_00: And they're still trying to incorporate him.
- 29:51SPEAKER_00: He's still dealing with so many injuries.
- 29:52SPEAKER_00: I mean, hell, he's only played 38 games so far this season.
- 29:55SPEAKER_00: And even in that last game, he missed the game after because of injury, ankle injury.
- 30:00SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm I'm hoping that once playoffs come around, things will shift and he can be the guy that we think he can be.
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: But it has been overall disappointing.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: You consider they gave up MPJ, and they gave up a 2031 first-round pick for his production.
- 30:12SPEAKER_00: And 2031 feels like a decade from now, even if it's not, and and maybe you don't care about that still, but that was a really good piece that I think the Brooklyn Mets took in that trade.
- 30:21SPEAKER_00: So, Cam, disappointed, unfortunately.
- 30:24SPEAKER_00: The next one is kind of a cop out.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's the next version of Gershawn Yabu selling.
- 30:31SPEAKER_00: Yabu was one of my favorite low-key signings for this offseason.
- 30:35SPEAKER_00: He came back to the league in Philly, he shot 40, 50% from the field, uh 38% from three, and 10 points per game, 11 points per game in the 70 games he played after four seasons of being out of the league.
- 30:46SPEAKER_00: And that was amazing.
- 30:47SPEAKER_00: You know, he had the Olympic run with France and then got this deal.
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: Darrell Mori stole him and he came over, and he was really good on a bad 76er team.
- 30:54SPEAKER_00: But it's like, oh, he's going to the Mecca, he's going to New York.
- 30:57SPEAKER_00: And if he could just provide what he just did in Philly for what was it,$8 million a year,$6 million a year, that is an absolute steal.
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: The dancing bear is gonna be dancing in New York.
- 31:07SPEAKER_00: And then he got to New York and he was playing nine minutes per game, shooting 40% from the field, 29% from three, and was eventually out of the rotation.
- 31:16SPEAKER_00: He was averaging two points per game.
- 31:19SPEAKER_00: They said, hold on, we gotta wash our hands with it.
- 31:22SPEAKER_00: We're gonna trade him to the Bulls for Dalen Terry.
- 31:26SPEAKER_00: Shout out to our boy Dalen Terry.
- 31:28SPEAKER_00: And he immediately came to Chicago and looked like the exact player that the New York Knicks needed.
- 31:32SPEAKER_00: He's been averaging 11 points per game on 27 minutes per game, 41% from overall, and 41% from three.
- 31:40SPEAKER_00: He's tempting six threes a game since he came to the Bulls, and he's hitting 41% of them.
- 31:46SPEAKER_00: If he was doing that for the Knicks, then who knows what the hell will be happening in New York?
- 31:50SPEAKER_00: They're already looking good, but they'd be looking great if Yabu was having his level of production.
- 31:54SPEAKER_00: So I just feel like this happens with teams all the time.
- 31:57SPEAKER_00: You you you hype yourself up, this guy's gonna come in and be great, and then he's not great, then he goes to his next team, and immediately he's the exact player that you thought he was gonna be with your favorite team.
- 32:06SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, his contract got amended too.
- 32:08SPEAKER_00: So like he's not even on a two-year deal no more.
- 32:10SPEAKER_00: So one-year deal.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: So he's expiring.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: Maybe he goes back to New York, maybe he goes back.
- 32:14SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, that it was just a really weird time, you know.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: Like, I was so excited for him and Jordan Clarkson, honestly.
- 32:21SPEAKER_00: He's like, oh, the Knicks kind of won some of this offseason because they were already a good team, and now they got some extra depth pieces.
- 32:27SPEAKER_00: Woo! And I mean, they eventually traded again him for Dalen and traded Dalen for Jose Alvarado, so it ended up working out long term.
- 32:35SPEAKER_00: But having a guy like Gersh, this version of Gersh, would be amazing for the Knicks, and they just don't have that.
- 32:40SPEAKER_00: Next one we got is Miles Turner.
- 32:44SPEAKER_00: Pacers fans told the world.
- 32:47SPEAKER_00: Pacers fans told the world.
- 32:48SPEAKER_00: And it's not, Miles is not having a bad season by any means, it's just not near the seasons that he had provided for the Indiana Pacers.
- 32:58SPEAKER_00: Simple.
- 32:58SPEAKER_00: You know, some of the more recent games, I think there was a game against Utah or Atlanta, I forget which one it was.
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: Um the the man didn't close out the game.
- 33:08SPEAKER_00: It's like, ooh, that's that's that's pretty tough for a guy that you through different avenues, through different avenues, you're basically paying or his spot on the roster costs you$50 million.
- 33:19SPEAKER_00: Let's say you're not paying him$50 million, but his spot on the roster is$50 a$50 million spot.
- 33:24SPEAKER_00: And I'm not a guy that thought that Miles Turner was gonna go there and turn into some level of all-star because that's just not who he is as a player.
- 33:30SPEAKER_00: But I thought he would be just maybe a little bit more impactful on both sides of the ball than he is right now for the uh Milwaukee Bucks.
- 33:39SPEAKER_00: And that's just not it.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: My last guy, before we get into your guys, let me just make sure I got through everybody else, is Quentin Grimes.
- 33:46SPEAKER_00: Q Grimes, you know, he went into restrictive free agency and he didn't get what he wanted.
- 33:51SPEAKER_00: He didn't get it, I don't think he got offersheet at all, but he wanted 25 to 30 million dollars.
- 33:55SPEAKER_00: And he's not having a bad season by any means as far as counting stats go.
- 33:59SPEAKER_00: He's just having a normal Quentin Grimes season, which maybe it's unfair for him to be top 10 on my most disappointed list by him just being himself.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: But the numbers are about 13 points per game, 44% from the field, 34% from three, which is worse than maybe his last couple seasons.
- 34:15SPEAKER_00: But he looked so good when he got to Philly.
- 34:18SPEAKER_00: And we knew it was Mickey Mouse March, right?
- 34:20SPEAKER_00: I didn't think he was going to average 22 points per game for this 76er team, but I did think he would be just, I think, overall better on both sides of the ball, you know, and that just hasn't been the case on a team that kind of needs his elevated play because Paul George is out with a suspension, and then Darren Morey traded away, you know, Jeremy Cain.
- 34:39SPEAKER_00: And part of the reason they may have traded Jeremy Cain is to try to retain Quentin Grimes at the end of the season.
- 34:44SPEAKER_00: But like, you know, it's just maybe I just expect just a little bit more for Q Grimes.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: That's all.
- 34:47SPEAKER_00: Just a little bit more, especially as like VJ has had these games where it looked like he has hit the rookie wall.
- 34:52SPEAKER_00: Did you kind of want Q Grimes to be like, okay, just last season I was running pick and rolls and stuff, and I can just run some of that again.
- 34:57SPEAKER_00: He did just have a really good game against Atlanta the other night.
- 34:59SPEAKER_00: But other than that, some of these games, this is like, you know, two points, five points, nine points.
- 35:04SPEAKER_00: It's not the not the greatest.
- 35:05SPEAKER_00: So those are my just my me personally, those are my 10 most disappointing players so far this season.
- 35:11SPEAKER_00: I polled the audience, and when we come back, we'll get into y'all's top five.
- 35:20SPEAKER_00: So I went into Twitter and I said, Who's the most disappointed player on your favorite team?
- 35:24SPEAKER_00: And these are the guys that came up more than anybody, or or tweets that somebody had that got 600 likes.
- 35:31SPEAKER_00: It's like, oh damn, 600 of these fans on Twitter think that this guy's been the most disappointed.
- 35:35SPEAKER_00: And some of these people are complete blind spots to me, like the first guy, Bub Carrington.
- 35:40SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 35:41SPEAKER_00: Uh Wizards fans are not enjoying this Bub Carrington season, which I can again, I have I can't say that I've been watching as closely as y'all have.
- 35:47SPEAKER_00: But so tell me if my analysis of Bub Carrington's season is right or wrong in the comment section or hit me up on Twitter.
- 35:52SPEAKER_00: Um, Bub Carrington came into the to last season as a guy, or coming came into this season as a guy that you're trying to figure out what is his true position on the team.
- 36:00SPEAKER_00: Is he a one?
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: Is he a combo?
- 36:02SPEAKER_00: Is he more of a two?
- 36:03SPEAKER_00: And I think that all of the one conversations have kind of died down.
- 36:06SPEAKER_00: As again, they now have acquired Trey Young, but also he just never lived up to the idea of him playing the one.
- 36:12SPEAKER_00: Start the season, he he was pretty poor from shooting the ball.
- 36:15SPEAKER_00: Since then, his overall, you know, shooting stats look okay, but the fans are just disappointed.
- 36:20SPEAKER_00: And I think that the disappointment may not be with his level of production.
- 36:23SPEAKER_00: It's the the lack of getting better, I guess.
- 36:26SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
- 36:27SPEAKER_00: Year two and progression is not Leonard Hill.
- 36:28SPEAKER_00: Year three, he can win most improved player for all we know, but it just hasn't been the progression that the fans were hoping for.
- 36:35SPEAKER_00: Next one, a one that I saw a lot.
- 36:37SPEAKER_00: I had somebody from the team, I had Jakob Purdle from the Raptors.
- 36:41SPEAKER_00: Um, a lot of Raptors fans are saying it's Grady Dick, which, yeah, last year he averaged 14 points per game, and now he just doesn't play often.
- 36:49SPEAKER_00: Um, a guy that came into the league as you know, optically as somebody that's 6'7 and with a sniper, you would hoping that he would shoot better than 30% from three this season, 36% from three his first season, 35% last season, and again, only 15 minutes per game this year.
- 37:04SPEAKER_00: And it's just not, I can understand the disappointment factor because after a season where you know the Raptors were not playing for a ton other than to, you know, get what ended up being CMB, 14 points per game, and he's playing 30 minutes per.
- 37:16SPEAKER_00: And now that they're a good team, he's kind of again not fallen out of the rotation, but he just doesn't get an opportunity to play as much because they're actually playing for something.
- 37:25SPEAKER_00: It's so cool to play 30 minutes per game on a bad team, but what will happen when the team shifts?
- 37:30SPEAKER_00: And we see that the Raptors have shifted to the point where like they can't play you because you don't hit shots.
- 37:35SPEAKER_00: Full stop, you just don't hit shots.
- 37:37SPEAKER_00: And like that would be like, you know how much the Raptors would kill for Grady Dick to be the player that they expected him to be.
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: Not him being an all-star, not even them being, you know, one of those type of dudes, but just the player that you drafted at pick number 13.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: And he has him.
- 37:53SPEAKER_00: He also on the court, and maybe I'm this is just my eye test.
- 37:55SPEAKER_00: He don't be looking 6'7 to me, right?
- 37:58SPEAKER_00: Am I tripping?
- 37:59SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 37:59SPEAKER_00: I even looking close to 6'5-ish.
- 38:02SPEAKER_00: He's six foot seven, dog, like a real six foot seven.
- 38:04SPEAKER_00: Every place that I've gone to where I type in Grady Dick, he's listed as six seven.
- 38:08SPEAKER_00: And you know, sometimes that can be different.
- 38:10SPEAKER_00: You know, sometimes somebody is six four and then they're six six all of a sudden on on some other website.
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: Nope.
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: All right, Grady Dick is number two according to the audience.
- 38:17SPEAKER_00: Number three, Julius Randle.
- 38:20SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, y'all.
- 38:21SPEAKER_00: This is like the second episode in a row where I've I've admitted, even though I watched so much Minnesota Timbows, and I mean so much because I would assume it was there.
- 38:28SPEAKER_00: I think that was one of my favorite players.
- 38:29SPEAKER_00: We'd have got Bears, one of my favorite players.
- 38:31SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm I'd turn my brain off when I'd be watching the Minnesota Timbows because I thought for the first couple months of the season, Julius Randle was looking pretty damn good.
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: And maybe it just shifted, and maybe my brain is still looking at the first couple months where there was like some fake all-star buzz around here.
- 38:46SPEAKER_00: I understand Julius Randle's always going to be a polarizing player because of his playstyle, because he can become a black hole, because he can become super, super selfish and instance.
- 38:54SPEAKER_00: But I don't know, man.
- 38:55SPEAKER_00: I didn't expect to see this many Julius Randle tweets, but I got a lot of them.
- 38:59SPEAKER_00: I mean a lot of them from Minnesota Tim Bulls fans.
- 39:02SPEAKER_00: Uh, next one we got um is Nikola Jovich.
- 39:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jovich got paid, and then then he doesn't play.
- 39:13SPEAKER_00: Jovich got paid, and now he doesn't play anymore.
- 39:16SPEAKER_00: And yeah, they could like his skill set would be, if he was doing it right, translatable for what this Miami Heat team um is is trying to do, but yeah, it just hasn't been the case.
- 39:27SPEAKER_00: And lastly, according to the audience, is Zachary Richasse.
- 39:32SPEAKER_00: We talked about it before, so I don't I don't have much to say about Reshausse.
- 39:35SPEAKER_00: So according to me and the audience, those are the 15 most disappointing players in our eyes.
- 39:40SPEAKER_00: Shout out to everybody that participated.
- 39:42SPEAKER_00: We got a lot of names on that list, man.
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: Um, and and originally, originally, this episode was supposed to be the most disappointing player on all 30 NBA teams.
- 39:50SPEAKER_00: And the way I started this off, I started off with Eastern Conference, I wrote down the 15 teams out east according to standing.
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: So Detroit up top, then yada yada yada.
- 39:57SPEAKER_00: And then I did Detroit Kerse Vert, who actually made the episode.
- 40:00SPEAKER_00: Then I got to Boston, I say, damn, we gotta scrap this episode.
- 40:05SPEAKER_00: It can't be one for every team because Boston doesn't have anybody, they genuinely don't have anybody.
- 40:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, literally, somebody has to be the most disappointing because you know that's like a you understand.
- 40:16SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm I'm like watching Boston self on a nightly basis, and there's nobody like, man, this is not a good season for them, man.
- 40:21SPEAKER_00: He just shouldn't be playing.
- 40:22SPEAKER_00: So I had to scrap the whole episode to say here are my top tier instead of all 30 um because of Joe Mazzo.
- 40:28SPEAKER_00: So shout out to him.
- 40:29SPEAKER_00: All right, before we get out of here, I kind of I was thinking about the other day because I was watching um the Washington Wizards when Trey Young came back.
- 40:35SPEAKER_00: I didn't watch it live, I watched it afterwards.
- 40:37SPEAKER_00: Watching the Washington Wizards when Trey Young came back.
- 40:39SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking to myself, how many coaching vacancies will be open this offseason?
- 40:45SPEAKER_00: You know, so let's kind of let's kind of have these kinds, let's have this conversation for the last little bit of today's episode.
- 40:50SPEAKER_00: How many coaching vacancies will be there?
- 40:53SPEAKER_00: And I don't know much of who's sitting on what bench, who's gonna be would be the top assistant turn head coach, but we do we did just have a great crop of guys between the last like five seasons ago from Missoula to Ott, from you know, who am I forgetting?
- 41:06SPEAKER_00: Um JB Biggerstaff's always been here, but like some some really good secondary guys that came up.
- 41:12SPEAKER_00: Um Mitch Johnson, obviously, Mark Day Nall, like these guys over the last five years, young, young guys that were secondhand guys, uh heck uh some um assistant coaches, and now get an opportunity.
- 41:23SPEAKER_00: I don't know who those guys are this year.
- 41:24SPEAKER_00: So I looked at Eastern Conference.
- 41:26SPEAKER_00: If there's any playoff team that I feel like might get a new coach, again, as we mentioned earlier, it will be Jamal Mosley and the Orlando Magic.
- 41:32SPEAKER_00: I don't know who their top assistant is over there.
- 41:34SPEAKER_00: Would he just be promoted or would they go outsource it?
- 41:36SPEAKER_00: But I think there's a legitimate chance that the Orlando Magic go into this offseason with changing the coach and looking for their new head of the uh uh locker room as their number one priority.
- 41:48SPEAKER_00: Cool.
- 41:49SPEAKER_00: Then we get down further, and it's like, is there a world where Doc Rivers is out?
- 41:53SPEAKER_00: I know Bucks fans, I'm waiting for the moment, but I don't know.
- 41:56SPEAKER_00: Doc Rivers just feels like a guy that ends up staying around on whatever team is coaching for like two years longer than what the consensus is.
- 42:03SPEAKER_00: And it kind of feels like that's what's happening right now with Doc Rivers.
- 42:05SPEAKER_00: So I there is a world where Doc is fired.
- 42:08SPEAKER_00: I guess it depends on what the hell happens with Giannis, but that that's just that's that's two possibles.
- 42:13SPEAKER_00: That's two possibles.
- 42:14SPEAKER_00: Billy Donovan is not getting never mind.
- 42:16SPEAKER_00: The Bulls are never gonna get rid of Billy Donovan.
- 42:18SPEAKER_00: But like Brian Keith or the Wizards, do y'all feel like now that they have Trey Young and they have Anthony Davis, that they're gonna let Brian Keith be the guy to start this new version of this team?
- 42:28SPEAKER_00: I I don't know if I've seen more than I don't know, two interviews of Brian Keefe since he became from interim coach to head coach.
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: Hey, I don't know.
- 42:39SPEAKER_00: I don't know what I don't know if Wizards fans like him, they hate him.
- 42:43SPEAKER_00: Is he a good coach?
- 42:43SPEAKER_00: Is it bad coach?
- 42:44SPEAKER_00: It's impossible to know when the team's objective is to lose a ton of well, actually, it's not impossible to know, but it is tougher to know when the team's objective is to lose.
- 42:52SPEAKER_00: Because like Jordy Fernandez, I think we know that Jordy Fernandez is a good coach, even though his team has 16 wins on the season.
- 42:58SPEAKER_00: We saw it.
- 42:58SPEAKER_00: We saw it last season, and maybe a little bit less this season, but we we could agree that Jordy Fernandez at the end of the day is a guy that is a decent coach, a decent enough coach to get an opportunity when the team is starting to turn around.
- 43:11SPEAKER_00: Then we go out west.
- 43:12SPEAKER_00: I would be really surprised if any of the Western Conference playoff teams got rid of their coach.
- 43:16SPEAKER_00: It would really have to do with like some people like extremely underperforming.
- 43:21SPEAKER_00: Um like Chris Finch.
- 43:23SPEAKER_00: Do y'all think Finchy's up if they lose in the first, second round this year?
- 43:27SPEAKER_00: I don't think so, right?
- 43:28SPEAKER_00: Conference finals appearance two out of the last three years feel crazy.
- 43:31SPEAKER_00: But then again, Tom Thibodeau's got the first conference finals appearance in 25 years and he got canced.
- 43:35SPEAKER_00: So you never really know, but I just feel like that's really low on the totem pole.
- 43:38SPEAKER_00: I would be I would be surprised.
- 43:40SPEAKER_00: It seems like you know, the players still like him.
- 43:42SPEAKER_00: Um, Anthony Everett still likes him, which I feel like is the thing that matters the most.
- 43:46SPEAKER_00: So it would be weird if he did, but I guess not out of the rim possibility.
- 43:50SPEAKER_00: Of all the other coaches in the top seven, if they had a bad season, like if if JJ Reddick and them lose in the first round, I don't think JJ Reddick's gonna fire.
- 43:59SPEAKER_00: Or Jordan is not.
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: Getting fired.
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: Um, David Addaman just got the position, so he's not getting fired.
- 44:03SPEAKER_00: Ime is not getting fired, Miss Johnson, like and and Dayton.
- 44:07SPEAKER_00: So it really feels like of the top six out west, if there's anybody that would get canned if they had an um underperform in postseason, it would potentially be Chris Finch, even if I think that would be a mistake.
- 44:16SPEAKER_00: Then we get to eight through 15, and I look at the Warriors.
- 44:21SPEAKER_00: And I made this point on numbers on the board yesterday, but like I think there's a world where Steve Kerr is just done.
- 44:30SPEAKER_00: You know, he played his part and he was amazing during the run.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: But as you know, Steph's career is getting towards the twilight, and Draymond's getting towards the twilight.
- 44:40SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't be surprised if he just decides not to not to stay around.
- 44:44SPEAKER_00: He did a year ago say that he's gonna be coaching his team as long as Steph Curry's there, which is probably the case.
- 44:49SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
- 44:50SPEAKER_00: I be think I be thinking about this pretty often.
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: Like Steve Kerr, objectively one of the biggest winners in the history of this sport as a player and as a coach, but he also did media before.
- 45:00SPEAKER_00: He might want to get back into some media spots.
- 45:02SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
- 45:02SPEAKER_00: I think that there is a world where Steve Kerr is gone and then they usher in some type of youth into that locker room.
- 45:09SPEAKER_00: Pierre mentioned the name Ron Adams, which again is a name I ain't heard in a long time.
- 45:12SPEAKER_00: Um, but we like, I feel like there's a couple more out West.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: And I guess we'll discuss that when I come back.
- 45:25SPEAKER_00: Like, what is happening with the Blazers head coaching, John?
- 45:28SPEAKER_00: Chauncey comes in with it.
- 45:29SPEAKER_00: Chauncey just got an extension before the season started, if I'm not mistaken.
- 45:31SPEAKER_00: He comes in with it and then he gets investigated for the gambling and all the other things.
- 45:36SPEAKER_00: So he's out.
- 45:36SPEAKER_00: He's he's like not ever coming back.
- 45:38SPEAKER_00: They said he sold his house to Portland, that's dead.
- 45:40SPEAKER_00: And Tiago Splitter's come in, and I can't on a nightly basis tell if Tiago is a good coach or not.
- 45:46SPEAKER_00: And that is a decision that they have to make as a trailblazer.
- 45:48SPEAKER_00: Do they want to make Tiago Splitter more than an interim coach?
- 45:50SPEAKER_00: I don't, I don't really know.
- 45:52SPEAKER_00: Because it does feel like they're still playing with the Chauncey Bills pieces.
- 45:58SPEAKER_00: And, you know, when you become a head coach in 14, 15 games of the season, you don't have time to incorporate your philosophies or your playbooks and the things that you want to run.
- 46:06SPEAKER_00: This team for the last three seasons has said Chauncey, so damn, we just gonna run Chauncey stuff, and then maybe this offseason is where we shift it a little bit.
- 46:12SPEAKER_00: But I could also see a world where they just believe that Tiago's better as a you know assistant coach, you know?
- 46:19SPEAKER_00: So that's the question, Mark One.
- 46:21SPEAKER_00: Um, the Pelicans have to be up for grabs, right?
- 46:24SPEAKER_00: You know, like shout out shout out to Jay, shout out to James Barrego, but like he's an interim coach.
- 46:31SPEAKER_00: I will be really, really, really surprised if they change that interim to like a full-time coach.
- 46:38SPEAKER_00: This team just had a game the other night against the Utah Jazz.
- 46:41SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, against the Suns, against the Suns.
- 46:43SPEAKER_00: And the Suns are, you know, without some players and just had a game they lost to the Bulls at all teams.
- 46:52SPEAKER_00: This Pelicans team had Zion, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, DeJounte Murray, Sadiq Bey.
- 46:57SPEAKER_00: They had their true starting lineup with their five best players.
- 47:00SPEAKER_00: They still do have, you know, Derek Queen off the bench.
- 47:02SPEAKER_00: They do their um and Jeremia Fears.
- 47:05SPEAKER_00: The bench is a little lackluster.
- 47:07SPEAKER_00: And they they lost that game, man.
- 47:09SPEAKER_00: And that's not the first time they've lost a game with what felt like you know their full, full-ish lineup.
- 47:15SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, obviously, they have talent in the door.
- 47:19SPEAKER_00: It's just not enough.
- 47:21SPEAKER_00: James Brago is not gonna be the coach next season.
- 47:24SPEAKER_00: And if he is, I would be super surprised.
- 47:25SPEAKER_00: But then again, Joe Dumas has done crazier things as the guy in charge of certain teams.
- 47:29SPEAKER_00: So I think they got they got a lot of new things coming through the door, but I could be wrong.
- 47:35SPEAKER_00: And then the last team is the team that we started off the episode with the Sacramento Kings.
- 47:39SPEAKER_00: I I don't think Duck Christie makes it, I don't think he makes it another season.
- 47:42SPEAKER_00: I just I'll be really surprised.
- 47:44SPEAKER_00: Some of the lineups they're running, and it's not his fault at the talent level, but like he's still running like all of the old dudes together.
- 47:52SPEAKER_00: It's just certain stuff, certain stuff like that.
- 47:55SPEAKER_00: And he had his held his hat as a defensive-oriented coach.
- 47:58SPEAKER_00: And again, it's maybe not his fault that the team is super, super duper bad, but I would be surprised that like next year when Darren Peterson's on the team or Cam Booles is on the team, that his head coach is Doug Christie.
- 48:11SPEAKER_00: Am I missing somebody?
- 48:12SPEAKER_00: Like, Will Hardy's not going anywhere, Jason Kid's not going anywhere.
- 48:15SPEAKER_00: I think Tomas Isalo is kind of safe as this being his like true first season and everything.
- 48:20SPEAKER_00: And then, yeah, like we mentioned, Jordy Fernandez is cool.
- 48:23SPEAKER_00: Billy Donovan is as Billy Donovan is the safest man in Chicago since Barack Obama.
- 48:29SPEAKER_00: Like, nobody can touch Billy Donovan because of his ownership group.
- 48:33SPEAKER_00: So he's going to be, he's gonna be here for as long as he wants to be here.
- 48:35SPEAKER_00: That's the reality of it.
- 48:37SPEAKER_00: Um and when he left OKC, he was saying he left because he didn't want to coach a rebuilding team.
- 48:44SPEAKER_00: And guess what the Bulls are doing right now, rebuilding.
- 48:46SPEAKER_00: Unless, unless they're convincing him, hey, that's$75 million that we have in Capsfake this season, we're not rebuilding, we're just retooling, and next year we're gonna be back into the play in.
- 48:54SPEAKER_00: Which, though I make a joke about it, I feel like there's a world where they're telling Billy Domin that just just thug these last 20 games out.
- 49:02SPEAKER_00: And I promise you, we're gonna use our money to go get um whatever center, Isaiah Hartenstein, welcome to Chicago.
- 49:08SPEAKER_00: You know, one of those centers that's a face.
- 49:10SPEAKER_00: We're gonna bring in DeAndre Aiden, and I promise you, DeAndre Aiden can help you win 40 games.
- 49:16SPEAKER_00: Nick Nurse?
- 49:18SPEAKER_00: Nah, right.
- 49:20SPEAKER_00: Nah, right.
- 49:23SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, if you if if you are a young coach looking for a head coach job and a young assistant, this might be a really good offseason for you.
- 49:30SPEAKER_00: I just named like seven to eight teams that could just be looking for a new coach.
- 49:36SPEAKER_00: It's a good time to be.
- 49:37SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, man, it's been it's been a really fun, fun time.
- 49:40SPEAKER_00: Um, we get an opportunity to talk about Tatum's return, but I'm be honest with you, as I'm recording this episode, he's playing game two, and I'm gonna quickly check this box score.
- 49:48SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, he's back.
- 49:50SPEAKER_00: He has already scored 12 points in 10 minutes.
- 49:53SPEAKER_00: So Tatum might be back, ladies and gentlemen.
- 49:55SPEAKER_00: And what does that mean for the league?
- 49:57SPEAKER_00: It means that the Celtics are back, honestly.
- 49:59SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you didn't have them as a contender before, I don't know how you wouldn't have them as a contender now with Tatum being back, and they're going against Harden and Mitchell in the lineup.
- 50:09SPEAKER_00: No Jared Allen.
- 50:10SPEAKER_00: But it is what it is.
- 50:11SPEAKER_00: Hey, man, if you enjoyed this episode of Smallball, leave a like, subscribe, tune in at the same time next week because we will be back with another episode, is what we do.
- 50:20SPEAKER_00: Love y'all.
- 50:20SPEAKER_00: See you next time.
- 50:22SPEAKER_00: Peace.