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Set 1: No Small QB's (w/ Simms) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep.
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  Speaker 3: Murray, Murray, you there.
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  Speaker 2: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to uh eighty.
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  Speaker 3: It was bo.
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  Speaker 2: Wow that prime time. Maybe I had a crush on
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  Speaker 2: Betty Rubble.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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  Speaker 1: to a commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman
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  Speaker 1: was black.
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  Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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  Speaker 2: the game. You're listening just to Godson Company.
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  Speaker 1: There is a glow on mikey A's face every time
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  Speaker 1: he sees Chris Sims.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I figured after I don't know, eight or nine years
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  Speaker 1: of doing this with Sims, I don't know how long
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  Speaker 1: it's been, that that glow would go away, But no,
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  Speaker 1: it returns every time he sees you. Man.
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  Speaker 4: How Yeah, my wife's been saying that for twenty one
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  Speaker 4: years of marriage and she still glows like a motherfucker.
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  Speaker 3: You should see her. Damn. I just got that effect. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's just what I do.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: What were these guys doing right before we started here?
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  Speaker 1: You're doing something from the barn. The Unbuttoned Podcast for
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  Speaker 1: the draft. These guys wanted an invite, and these guys,
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  Speaker 1: by these guys, I mean Taylor and mikey Ay, they
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  Speaker 1: want an invite to the barn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can get it. They can get it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, shit, your asking come up there too, if
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  Speaker 4: you want to fly up and hang out on the barn.
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  Speaker 4: They'll be food, they'll be snacks, they'll be drinks, they'll
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  Speaker 4: be drinks, they'll be smoky smoky. Right, I won't be
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  Speaker 4: partaking in that. No smoky, smoky or drinks from me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I try to stay focused here for this
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  Speaker 4: this little exercise.
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  Speaker 3: Two years in a row.
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  Speaker 4: I used to do drinky drinking smoky smoky, but then
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  Speaker 4: one of my bosses didn't really love it, so.
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  Speaker 3: I stopped last year.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm Johnny professional in the barn now. But you
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  Speaker 4: guys don't have to be professional if you come.
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  Speaker 2: No, I never am had your boss know? Howd that
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  Speaker 2: person know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean you know me. I wear my
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  Speaker 3: heart on my sleeve.
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  Speaker 4: Before the show started, I went right outside the door
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  Speaker 4: and smoked a joint. And I can remember him the
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  Speaker 4: last year I did it. He was like walking by
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  Speaker 4: the door every few seconds, like, well, surely he'll just
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  Speaker 4: take one or two hits, and you know that doesn't
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  Speaker 4: exist with me. So here I am like forty five
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  Speaker 4: hits later, and he's still walking by, like is he really.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna be able to do this show?
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like from that point on and I
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  Speaker 4: did a great job that night, but uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they probably didn't love my you know, squinted eyes, glassy
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  Speaker 4: eyes and everything else along with it.
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  Speaker 1: So you wear your weed on your sleeve, is what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, is actually it's noticeable, right you can tell?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Basically, Yeah, everybody knows what I do and who I am,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't hide that from anybody. I even like
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  Speaker 4: in New York City, I am the kind of guy
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  Speaker 4: that if you go on fifty seventh Street and I'm
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  Speaker 4: in Midtown and I'm gonna go to NOBU, like, I'll
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  Speaker 4: be on the sidewalk smoking a joint and I'll have
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  Speaker 4: that people walk by me every now and then and
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  Speaker 4: be like, man, you're just smoking out in public, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I mean everybody knows I smoke. I
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  Speaker 4: talk about on TV like, who the hell cares? What
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  Speaker 4: are we worried about? You?
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  Speaker 3: No, we've got to break some barriers in life here.
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  Speaker 5: STU are running into a bit of a dilemma at
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  Speaker 5: the barn though, because it seems like Sims won't compromise
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  Speaker 5: with me and put the Knicks game onto Oh is.
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  Speaker 4: That because there's football night, it's a draft night and
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  Speaker 4: I and we only got one TV in there, so
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  Speaker 4: I don't give a damn about his the New York Knicks,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not into basketball mode right now. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's not you know, gonna happen, sorry, Slugger Taylor.
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  Speaker 6: Compromise implies leverage of which you have none, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You want to invite to the Sims bar and you
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  Speaker 1: watch whatever the fuck Simms has on in the bar.
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  Speaker 4: That's it, right, the compromise for him show up for
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  Speaker 4: the last two times that was on here, right, So
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  Speaker 4: I mean they got all that, and then I think, also,
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  Speaker 4: something happened with your mic there.
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  Speaker 3: You just screwed it up again, so I did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to fix it, right, Yeah, you know you
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  Speaker 2: are incredible. I can't move if I move with that
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  Speaker 2: you guys talking. I'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 6: I want to get into some draft stuff with Simms
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  Speaker 6: while Stu figures this out, Sims. I'm looking at your
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  Speaker 6: tears and I came across your wide receiver tier yea.
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  Speaker 6: And not only did you have a surprise at number
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  Speaker 6: one in Denzel Boston, but there is an obvious omission
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  Speaker 6: in your top three tiers. I don't see Malchai Lemon
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  Speaker 6: on there. What happened there?
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  Speaker 4: No, you don't see Casey Conception on on there. You
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  Speaker 4: don't see Omar Cooper on there.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think their first round picks really, they are
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  Speaker 4: only first round picks in the modern day NFL. The
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  Speaker 4: modern day NFL the last five to six years where
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  Speaker 4: we have gone this way of we're not gonna take
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  Speaker 4: chances as much on guys in the first round. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna go with a guy that we just know can
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  Speaker 4: produce and be really good and help us out right
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  Speaker 4: away in year one, and then the GM doesn't get
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  Speaker 4: dragged for having a bust on the first round pick.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So that's where I look at it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like again, out of the people, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if anybody is like, oh my gosh, Makai Lemon
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  Speaker 4: top twenty pick as far as pure physical talent, now,
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  Speaker 4: what I would tell you too, and what happens with receivers.
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  Speaker 4: And you guys have heard me say this before. It's oh,
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  Speaker 4: he makes me feel warm. Look at that USC emblem
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  Speaker 4: and ooh he had a lot of catches and all that.
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  Speaker 4: But there's guys that are down the line that I
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  Speaker 4: would tell you that are more physically gifted than Malachai
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  Speaker 4: Lemon or Omar Cooper or Casey conception on. But they
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  Speaker 4: were at big schools, they played in big games and
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  Speaker 4: they got to show that and that makes evaluators feel good. Like, so,
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  Speaker 4: guy like Zachariah Branch from Georgia really good. I think
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  Speaker 4: you put him in the USC, and I know he
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  Speaker 4: was there at one time. I get that, But if
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  Speaker 4: he was on that team this year, you'd go, oh
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  Speaker 4: my gosh, that's gonna be a top twenty pick in
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  Speaker 4: the draft, no doubt. He's Jalen Wattle. I mean, so
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  Speaker 4: that's that's you know again, I like the player. I
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  Speaker 4: know he's going in the first round. He's in my
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  Speaker 4: first round mock. But for me, as far as on
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  Speaker 4: the field, pure physical talent, no, those guys don't blow
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  Speaker 4: me away that way, Sims.
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  Speaker 5: It feels like the draft really starts with the Jets
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  Speaker 5: picking at two because everybody knows Mendoz is going one
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  Speaker 5: to Vegas. Yeah, where are you at in the Reese
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  Speaker 5: Bailey debate at two?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would take rvel Reeves. I think r vel
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  Speaker 4: Reeves is the second best pure player in the draft.
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  Speaker 4: And I think rvl Reeves can be Micah Parsons an
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  Speaker 4: Abdul Carter.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I know you don't have all that evidence of rushing
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  Speaker 4: the passer, right, but I think if you took the
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  Speaker 4: top ten pass rushes of rvel ree and put him
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  Speaker 4: against anybody to go, they're the best in the draft.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody can do that right there. He's so explosive. Of
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  Speaker 4: course he's raw. He needs work there, so there's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit ofhim back to our old conversation of the unknown.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Oh, I don't know, And.
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  Speaker 4: This is to me where I want to be, like, wait,
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  Speaker 4: we don't think the biggest, freakiest, the athletic guy in
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  Speaker 4: the draft can go on the edge and become an
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  Speaker 4: edge guy.
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  Speaker 3: I think we overanalyze at the times.
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  Speaker 4: But I can understand the Jets thinking about Bailey again.
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  Speaker 3: It's a big year for the Jets.
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  Speaker 4: The brass, the coaching staff, everybody right their asses on
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  Speaker 4: the hot seat, where Bailey can definitely contribute right away.
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  Speaker 4: On the edge, where rvel Reese, I think you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have like a Michael Parsons thing.
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  Speaker 3: He plays mid a linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: We put him on the edge a little bit, and
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  Speaker 4: we continue to grow that as we go along to
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  Speaker 4: maybe than year two it's mostly at edge and some
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  Speaker 4: middle linebacker, and then year three it's just all edge.
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  Speaker 3: And I feel like that's rvel Reees.
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  Speaker 4: But the Jets might want somebody proven true commodity right now,
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  Speaker 4: and I think that's probably where that argument is with
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  Speaker 4: the Jets at number two.
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  Speaker 3: But I would take rvel rees Sims.
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  Speaker 1: How'd you feel about the trade of Dexter Lawrence from
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  Speaker 1: the Giants of the Bengals.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I love Dexter Lawrence and I didn't want it
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  Speaker 4: to really happen, But when you get the number ten
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  Speaker 4: pick of the draft, you definitely take that. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: for a guy that's twenty eight going to be twenty
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  Speaker 4: nine in November.
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  Speaker 2: Who doesn't want to be there right and.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't want to be there exactly right, and I think
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  Speaker 4: they have concerns. They had concerns about his health last year.
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  Speaker 4: I think they didn't like the way he handled rehab
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  Speaker 4: and certain things. I've heard that his weight got a
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  Speaker 4: little out of control as well. And they got lucky
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  Speaker 4: here in the Bengals, who barely have an NFL starting
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  Speaker 4: defensive line. There's no dtackle Worth taking at number ten.
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  Speaker 4: They were desperate and they got that done. And now
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  Speaker 4: the Giants have a chance to, i mean, really have
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  Speaker 4: a chance to do something special.
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  Speaker 3: JEREMILEH.
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  Speaker 4: Love, Sonny Styles, Caleb Downs, Jordan Tyson, all those guys
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  Speaker 4: are in the mix for the New York Giants right now.
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  Speaker 4: And as a Giant fan, that certainly excites me.
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  Speaker 2: What would you want the Giants to do? What do
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  Speaker 2: you expect them to do with those two picks?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 4: Well, in my mock draft here, so I think that
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  Speaker 4: the Cardinals are going to take Jeremiah Love, that would
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  Speaker 4: be my two cents. It's Mike Laffleher. He's an offensive
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  Speaker 4: run game specialist. He's an offensive coach who's a head coach.
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  Speaker 4: He came from Shanahan and McVeigh, who run the football.
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  Speaker 4: His damn brother traded for Josh Jacobs. JEREMILEH. Love is
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  Speaker 4: the best offensive player in the draft. Other than Fernando Mendoza.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that is what will happen there.
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  Speaker 4: And then you go, oh, we're at pick four with
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  Speaker 4: the Titans, and you sit there and go, whoa, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: whoever the Jets don't take right and whoever that is
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  Speaker 4: RVL Rays, David Bailey, whatever, one of those could be
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  Speaker 4: there for the Titans that pick number four, so that
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  Speaker 4: that could be interesting in itself to see what they
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  Speaker 4: do there. But the Giants, So this is what I
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  Speaker 4: had in my mock draft. I had the Commander's trade
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  Speaker 4: up two spots because they need a receiver and take
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  Speaker 4: Cardinal Tit at number five and switch with the Giants.
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  Speaker 4: And then I had the Giants taking Sonny Styles at
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  Speaker 4: seven and Jordan Tyson at ten. But again I don't
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  Speaker 4: know because the Saints could easily take Jordan Tyson, that's
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  Speaker 4: for sure. The Cowboys could definitely. I think that's a
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  Speaker 4: real Then Cowboys don't have any needs on their football
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  Speaker 4: team middle linebackers, won. I think that's why you saw
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  Speaker 4: mel Kiper and Daniel Jeremiah all have the Cowboys trade
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  Speaker 4: to get the number six pick with the Cleveland Browns
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  Speaker 4: and take a Sonny Styles. So this is where I
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  Speaker 4: think it can be a very interesting first and round
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  Speaker 4: and we can see a lot of action tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 1: As you've gotten ready and prepared yourself for this draft.
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  Speaker 1: When you watch Mendoza, are you liking him more or
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  Speaker 1: are you liking him less?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? No, more more?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Mendoza. Mendoza is a slam dunk. I'm
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  Speaker 4: like almost zero questions about Mendoza. He's you know, this
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  Speaker 4: is where the draft drives me crazy, because I feel
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  Speaker 4: like if he was a little cooler and dressed cooler
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  Speaker 4: and he interviewed cooler, everybody like.
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  Speaker 3: He's the number one pick by far. But now he's
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  Speaker 3: like he's a little bit of like a nerd.
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  Speaker 4: And now it's like, well, I've seen some other guys
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  Speaker 4: that I think i'd rank him. What. He's a slam dunk,
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  Speaker 4: he's a quarterback, he's a franchise, he's got a strong arm,
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  Speaker 4: he's smart as hell, he works hard as hell. How
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  Speaker 4: is he not the number one player on everybody's board?
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  Speaker 4: Just making up bullshit if you don't have him as
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  Speaker 4: a number one player.
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  Speaker 3: On your board.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, if he had some Chris Sims and him, he'd
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  Speaker 1: be fucking everyone.
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  Speaker 2: We talking about him.
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  Speaker 3: Sexy dis appeal would come back.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I do to Mikey a you know,
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  Speaker 4: I make him blush and get a shine every time
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  Speaker 4: he sees me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Mikey. Mikey wants to ask you about
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  Speaker 1: Ruben Bain. I find this. I find this player to
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  Speaker 1: be particularly funny because if his arms were a half
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  Speaker 1: inch longer, he'd be the top three pick of the draft.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 6: So Stud throws it to me to ask the question.
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  Speaker 3: Then he essentially asked the question.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks for that was your question.
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  Speaker 3: You were going to ask about Ruby.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that I want to ask if Chris Simms.
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  Speaker 6: If Chris Sims was the GM of a team and
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  Speaker 6: he's watching tape of Ruben Bain and he's falling in
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  Speaker 6: love with this guy, and then somebody comes to him
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  Speaker 6: and hands him a paper that says his arms are
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  Speaker 6: two tenths of an inch too short. What is Chris
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  Speaker 6: Simms doing?
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  Speaker 4: That's what I want to It is a real tangible thing, right,
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  Speaker 4: so there is like you can't just like totally disregard it.
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  Speaker 4: There's a few outliers, but through the majority of the
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  Speaker 4: draft era and especially the last twenty years, where they've
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  Speaker 4: really honed in on this. Like you get under thirty
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  Speaker 4: three and the success rate eight very good, it's not
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  Speaker 4: thirty two and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Especially, It's like it's not now.
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  Speaker 4: You have to have something special off of that, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like you talk about, Hey, you want to draft a
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  Speaker 4: small quarterback. Okay, that's risky, but he better do he
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  Speaker 4: better have three rockets up his ass like Kyler Murray, right,
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  Speaker 4: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: So this is where Bain.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that scares you, but then when you turn on
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  Speaker 4: the film, you just go, man, there's so many other
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  Speaker 4: ways this guy I can win. It's not just gonna
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: be about arm length. And he's so physical and he's
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  Speaker 4: so strong, and he plays balls to the wall and
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  Speaker 4: he puts his body in vulnerable positions and just throws
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  Speaker 4: it around to where. Listen, I like RBL reaches the best.
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  Speaker 4: But if you're seeing my rankings there, Ruben Bain was
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  Speaker 4: my second favorite. I'm as high on David Bailey as
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  Speaker 4: everybody else. I like him a lot. I certainly recognize
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  Speaker 4: he's a top fifteen pick, but he was not my favorite.
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  Speaker 4: I love Baine, I really do. And you know, Bain's
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  Speaker 4: another guy. Where does he go in this first round.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's a number of places. Again, the Saints
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  Speaker 4: at eight, they certainly can take them. I have the
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  Speaker 4: Chiefs at nine taking him, and again, wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 4: that there's some team sitting in the weeds that trades
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  Speaker 4: up late to eight or nine to maybe get him.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm okay with it because Bain has enough other
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  Speaker 4: ways to win and be elite in the game rather
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  Speaker 4: than just arm length.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Ye, I'm gonna ask you the same question about
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  Speaker 1: Simpson as I asked you about Mendoza. You watch the
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  Speaker 1: film on him, did you like him or less? After
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  Speaker 1: watching film?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say it stayed about the same.
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  Speaker 3: He was one that didn't jump.
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  Speaker 4: I have other ones that I would tell you, Man,
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  Speaker 4: the more I watched, Like if I would go back,
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  Speaker 4: there's a few. I'm not big on changing my rankings,
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  Speaker 4: but I got a few that I'd go ooh if
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  Speaker 4: I had a change or I had a chance to
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  Speaker 4: do it. I put this guy above that guy. No,
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  Speaker 4: I feel about the same. I have worries about it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, again, I'm not into small quarterbacks. Everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 4: It listens to me. It's not my favorite thing in
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  Speaker 4: the world, and then you're talking about a guy here that, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he weighed two hundred and ten pounds at the combine,
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  Speaker 4: but anybody that'll tell you that knows anything. He was
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and ninety pounds at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 4: In college football. He got beat the shit. The play
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  Speaker 4: wasn't that great at the end of the year. And
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  Speaker 4: he's only played one year. So that's what scares me.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I like some of his play. I do you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's an incredible athlete. He's got pop in his arm.
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  Speaker 4: I don't love his motion and how he throws the
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  Speaker 4: ball always, and that detracts me as well. But no,
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: I think I've stayed pretty consistent. I think I told
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: you guys when I went into it, I was thinking
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: I was gonna like him and it was gonna be
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: closer to Mendoza than I thought. And then I watched
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: and I went to it's it's not close, and I said,
• 14:09
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• 14:12
  Speaker 4: I don't it feels like it's Pittsburgh or bust in
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: the first and the second round. I just went over
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: this with Mike Floria. Well, let me just run through
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: this first Off, you look at the NFL. Not many
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: teams need quarterbacks right now, right, I mean no, they're
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: not many. And that's where you know, you get back
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: into me and telling you there's not a quarterback problem
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. There's an offensive coordinator problem. That's the
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: biggest problem in the issue. But off of that, okay, Mike, Yeah,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: you're New York Jets. One, I believe Frank Reich and
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn believe in bigger quarterbacks. Two, are you really
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: want to start this bullshit charade than all this crap here?
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Right, you guys?
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: You guys can play good football and start one and
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: two and be like, damn, we look pretty good.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: And you know the fan base why Simpson, why we
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: went there? And it's just because you're asking for Cooer suicide.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the Jets taken. I want to be like, well,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: you can take them. It might work, but your ass
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: might be fired in four months.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: So how fuck with that one?
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Then the Cardinals, the Cardinals just got burned by a
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: smaller quarterback, Manti Austin for the GM there.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: He's from New England. I worked with him there.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: I know he believes in bigger quarterbacks, and I don't
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: think they'd go that route.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna like I said Jeremiah Love, and
• 15:25
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• 15:28
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• 15:29
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• 15:31
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• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I don't think they do it. So then
• 15:35
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• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Maybe the Rams in the second round for the future
• 15:40
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• 15:42
  Speaker 3: Other than that, it's Pittsburgh.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: So like, I certainly can see Ty Simpson being on
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: the board in the middle of the second round still
• 15:48
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• 15:51
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  Speaker 6: In Louisiana, Sims, you said before that you had somebody
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: as your second best player in the draft. I'm assuming
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Jeremiah Love is your first best player.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: No, Mendoza's number one. I have our reached number two
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: and Jeremiah Loved number three. I'm like my big board
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: as far as ranking them, and I'm actually gonna do
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• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I would rank it there that way?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Ye special day, Yes, how high up are you gonna
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: have Love?
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: And where in the draft.
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  Speaker 3: Could he go that?
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: You'll be like, Oh, that's that's gonna be a problem
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: for teams.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well let's see. Let me look at that well.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, if he ended up in Tennessee with
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Brian Dayball and Cam Morden might not be right away,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: but their offensive line is pretty good there, right, I
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: mean again, Tony Pollard ran for four and a half
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: yards per carry last year without a very good passing
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: offense to help him and do that, right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: So, and you still like cam wardon you love cam Ardon.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I do, And I think you couple cam with doing
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: this right here and keeping in and doing all that, like,
• 18:44
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• 18:46
  Speaker 3: But I think if David sitting on the board, they're
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: gonna look at it, you know.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm expecting Jeremiah Love to be gone there,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: but that certainly is one that I look at it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: You know, I would love for him to be on
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the Giants as a Giant fan, you know that. I've
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: said that for a while. I think the combination with
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: him in a Jayden Daniels would be scary as well.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you know that's that's that's got some
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: potential there. But uh yeah, I think that's probably the one.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: But there's like no way he gets out of the
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: top ten. So you're really just looking at those teams
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: right there.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Sims.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Do you think there's anything the Eagles could do this
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: draft weekend that will tip their hand at what will
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: happen with aj Brown?
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Well? I did.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I had to like so like you know, you know
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: the draft and my mock I basically had the Patriots
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: drafting Jermad McCoy, right, the awesome corner who's really the
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: number one corner on every team's board in football, except
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: he has these injury concerns. Where I had them going, hey,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: you know, hey, draft him for us, and then on
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: you know, June first, we'll give you Aj and then
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: we want him right, you know that That's it was
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: kind of like my let me play one crazy thing
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: that could happen in the draft.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: That's kind of where I went there.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the AJ Brown thing is definitely happening.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I've been saying that for weeks. I told Mike Florio
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: that about two weeks ago. I got I get the
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: sense from people in the league that the deal's really
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: done that they're just waiting for June first to come around.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: So we'll see where that goes. And then, yeah, I'm interested.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Does it apply to this year's draft and they make
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: some wink not agreement, or does the trade happen and
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: it has more to do with next year's draft. That's
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: the only thing I don't know here. I will be
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: interested to see what the Patriots do at the end
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: of the first round.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Sims any issues with Mendoza not showing up to the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: NFL Draft staying at home with the family doing it there.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Not shocked by that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I would if I was talking to them,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, come on. I would not say it,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: wouldn't say come on, but I'd be like, hey, I
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: think you should go to the draft.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a special thing. You walk on
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: the stage, You're the number one pick. Holy Chris, this
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: is what you played the sport for. It has to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: be able to like look at all your high school
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: coaches and little league people and.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Be like, screw you, everybody that doubted me. You see
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: me up here. I'm worn fifty million in the number
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: one pick. Now, yes, you're everybody.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, But as he pointed out, he's a fucking nerd.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: So he's a great He's a great kid, is what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: He's a great kid, and he's going I want to
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: stay home with mom and dad and my friends and
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: enjoy the moment with them.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: How could you not love that?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: How could you? Yeah?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like you guys know, I'm crazy, but
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I usually have some nerd friends in the group, and
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like he'd be one of my buddies. I do,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: because he's smart, you know, he's quick witted. He says
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: some things that are like very dry humor that if
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: you're not listening, you'd be like, oh, that was good
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: by you.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: You didn't.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: So that's where he's way more charismatic than everybody's getting
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: in credit for.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And that's why I think he's gonna be awesome in
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the NFL.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: So Stu Gotts our good friend of the show, Billy Gills,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: friend of Chris Simms. He posted a video on The
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Ringer NFL Show where he was questioning Mendoza's character because
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Mendoza transferred from Billy's high school to Columbus High School,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: apparently because he wasn't guaranteed a playing spot at Billy's
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: old high school, right and for Nando Mendoz's dad commented
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: on it with a bunch of clown face emojis to Billy.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, good, good, Billy, Billy deserves that right there. Yes,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: it's the modern day here, you can't. Yes, it is
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: in a crazy world, even in high school football, you
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: know again, and that's like people, but but yeah, like here,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: here's a great one for you. Okay, then this is
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: just speaks to it all. And I got a son
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: in high school right now too, to where damn, we
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: think about going to other schools as well, because a
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: kid a year above or whatever, and it's a good
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: team and the kid doesn't have to be that great.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: They can go undefeated and they're gonna be like, well,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: we're just gonna keep him a quarterback, even though you
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: know your son might be better, he's a year ahead of you,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: We're gonna keep him in there, right, that's the way.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: So you're gonna have guys that are be like I
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: was a top ten pick in the draft that I
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: had to leave my high school because they did that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Here's one for you. You guys heard the name Chris
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Snee at all? Do you know the name? You know?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the name of course.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Off it's alignment for the Giants back in the day.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Tom Cofflin's son in law. His son is the number
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: one quarterback in the country and my son's class. As
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: a freshman last year, he played varsity. He wasn't the starter,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: but they brought him in in certain situations to like
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: run the ball and do that. At Bergen Catholic, New Jersey.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: He's the number one quarterback. He's a specimen. He had
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: to leave Bergen Catholic and now he's going to Premise
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Catholic because Bergen Catholic has a pretty damn good quarterback too,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: and he's definitely going D one and so yes, some
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: point somebody's gonna be in a draft. Divigeon, Well, I
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: don't like Walker Snee. He had a transfer from All
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: High school. And it's like, no, the modern day right now,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the big schools, you could have two big three, big
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: time you know quarterbacks there, Division one pros whatever. That's
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the way it's getting. So I think you're gonna see
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: stories like this every now and then.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Your son's a big top quarterback. Huh.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: He's all right, he's got a chance. We'll see where
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: it goes. He can throw it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: What do you mean, he's got a chance, A chance.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make any proclamations, but he's got a chance.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: We'll see, right, I love you telling Mendoza go up
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: there and act fucking cool, and he's like, no, I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: want to stay at home with my parents.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Right right, Well, he's got that, you know, he's got
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: his mom, of course, who's in a wheelchair. So I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: sure he's like, that's not easy life being on the
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: road doing all if.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: He's not going to the draft, Chris, he's got a
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: good excuse.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And now what you questioned it, that's it right about it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: By the way, it is winning, So don't worry. Billy
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: was going for that reaction. He is happy that right
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: into Billy's hands.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, and not only that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, I don't think Billy's ever been
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: invited to the barn for draft night.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think he has.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: No, You're right, he definitely is not. He did not
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: reach that territory. Well at the end of our relationship.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He really just kind of spurned us and did other things.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: So yes, it'll take a while for him to work
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: that work back up into inviting to the barn category.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Right, he'll somehow figure out a way to blame it
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: all on me.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Taylor, Sam's anything I need to know for
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: the barn dress code?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Or should I bring something? No, No, you're good. We
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: got it all covered, man.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And bring an extra TV so you can watch the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: next game.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be and I bring your iPad and hook
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: on our internet and watch it over there in the
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: corner or something.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: All right, sim let me give you this doozy from Taylor.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: A Yankee fan, you're a Yankee fan. He said early
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: on he got caught up in the moment that he
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: would not trade Paul ski He would not trade Cam
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Schlittler straight up for Paul Skens.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: How about that? Wow? Yeah?
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: What? What? What? What is? What? Pyote? Were you on that?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: I was I was just high on life, hi on
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Yanke being high on your own.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Guys. Sometimes I want you. Did I tell you? Guys?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I saw Aaron Boone. I don't think we've talked about this.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, what happened?
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I I saw.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I'm at a restaurant up here in you know, Greenwich, Bedford,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: New York area.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, let me remind the audience this is the guy
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that you've wanted the fire for a couple of years now.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: And I well, and I'm exactly And I've been on
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: ESPN Radio in New York with Michael Kay and said
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: the same things.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Right, so, and I've told you he lives.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: In my town and his daughter, you know, is a
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: year or two older than my son, and they went
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: to grade school together for a little while. But yeah,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I've made my comments certainly right respect for Aaron Boone,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: but yeah, have there have been times where I want
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: us to move on from him and Cashman and all that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Of course there is so yes, So I'm at a
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: restaurant and he's just right there by me.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if he knows what I've said.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Or whatever, but he did come over to the table
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: and say hello, right, I would, and he was very nice.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: It was a real quick exchange. I did get the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: sense in his.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Eyes that he knew what I said and he wanted
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: to say something This motherfucker yeah right, And that's the
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: hardest thing, right. It made me feel bad because but
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: but I've also been in his situation where that's where
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: like I've been like, Hey, I was the quarterback of
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Tampa and I had plenty of people in the local
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: media telling me, oh shit, he sucks, get them off,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah. I'd see them out and it didn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: ruin my night. I more went, hey, what you doing,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Hell Warre, you is good to see you. And in
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: my mind I was just like I'm gonna prove your
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: that's wrong.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: So hopefully he had that same thing. It's not personal.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just a Yankee fan, but that was definitely one
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: of the more awkward moments for.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Me in the last eight or nine weeks.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because had you not said it, or had he
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: not known that you have said it, you feel like
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the interaction would have been a bit longer, right.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Probably a little bit longer, maybe a little bit more warm.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was me.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Maybe I was self conscious, right, maybe I was projecting,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: as the psychologist say, but that I got that feel
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: and I thought you would like that story.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I've been meaning to tell you.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: That it's a great story.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You should have said, well, I mean just come out
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and say listen, I like you as a person, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I want to fire you as the manager.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: That's all I mean.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think before the first and second
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: course there, that wasn't the right time to do that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Chris, What was it like, we'll getting out of here
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: in a second. For you the week, you know, a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: couple of days leading up to the draft, were you nervous,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: What were you feeling?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: What was going on?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Nervous.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I was really nervous because I was an unknown. I
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: knew there was a chance I can maybe go in
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: the first round. I mean, listen, I almost came out
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: early my junior year because I was being told that
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: would be a top ten or twelve pick.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I stayed in. We lost to Colorado on the Big
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: twelve championship game.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: My next year, I lost to Oklahoma, and then I
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: became labeled as Chris Sims can't win the big game, right,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what happened. So I was a
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: fringe first rounder. I thought the Raiders were gonna take
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: me at the end of the first round.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: That's really what I thought.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Al Davis, the late great Al Davis, really gave me
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: a sense that they might go there. So I was excited.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And I didn't know what the Baltimore Ravens might do.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: They needed a quarterback. I thought there was a chance
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I could end up with them too. But the night
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: before I had some friends in town. We went out
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: to dinner blah blah blah, and I got home and
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: I could tell my parents were a little on edge,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: and I think they were well, and they and what
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I you know, Eventually my dad tells me and my
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: agent had been talking to him a little bit where
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: it was like, we don't know where Chris is gonna go.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: We don't we don't have a spot for him. You know,
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: usually you have a good feel, we don't know what's
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: gonna happen. So and my dad kind of told me that, like, hey,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: we don't know what's going to happen here, blah blah blah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: You know, we still think maybe the Raiders who had
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: the last two picks of the first round that year,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: they might take you, but we kind of haven't heard
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: anything definitive. So the draft went by, and of course
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the first round went by, and I was still sitting
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: on the couch, and then of course we got through
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: halfway through the second round, and I was still sitting
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: on the couch, and I had friends over, and we
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: got through the second round and I just told everybody
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to go home. I said, go home, see you later.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I was like, I've had it. I actually went upstairs
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: and watched the draft by myself. And then last that
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: was in the day of the first three rounds were
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: the first three the first day, right, and I was
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the last pick of the third round and Tampa Bay,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the phone rang and it
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: was Rich McKay and John Gruden. I talked to them.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: So it was like a bittersweet day. Awesome day really is.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I was excited, but yet yeah, I was heartbroken because
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: I felt like I was better than where I got picked.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And how was your dad during that?
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: What was my dad?
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Was?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Okay? I mean my dad? Let me be really, I know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I probably my dad all the league. They're so stupid,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: And one of the things too, not only don winning
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: the and this is where the over analyzation crap happens
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: and all that. Like one of the things you find
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: out after the fact is yeah, maybe not winning the
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: big games, and people worried about that then, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I think there were some people that like tattle tailed
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: on me at Texas that were like tried to say
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I partied a lot, which was kind of hilarious because
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: like my good friends literally would make fun of me
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: for never going out to party, like.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Sit in your room and
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: watch Shrek tonight? You're gonna play Halo? Right?
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: But then when I did go out, it was like, oh,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: he's a partier, right, So that's just there's just so
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: much bullshit that goes in on the draft, that's for sure.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Right, who snitched on you? Name names?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: You know? I know, I don't know. I haven't.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Actually I have an inkling, right, And one of them
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: played on the football team too, because I had I had, Yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I had a team that you know. Of course, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I know, the NF felt better than most of these
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: college people did. Where I got in the NFL, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: some people did tell me some stuff. I have a
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: there was a coach and a player on my team
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: that I feel like didn't maybe help me out the
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: best with talking to teams, that's for sure.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: All Right, we'll see you at the bar. Go ahead,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: tell you you have one more here.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sims.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: My question for you is having played for Gruden, does
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: it make you laugh just as much when you see
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Gruden do his quarterback camp, Because for me, I've never
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: seen somebody who loves a hard count like John grub Out.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Trust me, it brings me back to memory lane. Our
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: quarterback meetings weren't far different from that, I'm just telling you,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: except they were a lot more f words and more
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: intense and more slander, right.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Like what the fuck are you doing here?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: And he'd have like a red laser, like he'd go
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: around you like ninety times, like what the hell is this?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: What are you adult? What are you a freaking adult? Right?
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: And he as a young he would make me do
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: that in front of the team at times. Right, he
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: got sims, give them your hard count, and I'm a
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: rookie and I'm like embarrassed, and I'm like, oh my god,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I gotta do that. Or he'd tell me how some
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: quarterback talked right to lead his football team. Always just
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: like hey, Joe Montana would mother f people and blah
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: blah blah, or he and he'd call me out and
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: be like, what would Joe Montana here do right here?
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And you know, I finally got comfortable and good enough
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: to where I'd be like, He's like, hey, what the
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: fuck are you doing? I'd say that in the meeting
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: and everybody laugh or whatever. But yeah, it's it's amazing.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: He's got energy that's unmatched by anybody.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Jo.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Thank god Ruden is not coaching the Raiders still.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I mean him and Mendoza would be fun.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: That would be fun every sentence. John Gruden said he'd
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: have to go like this, speaking like a blessing for
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: the bad swears.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He said, every Day Up Peacock The Unbuttoned Podcast as
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: well Football Night in America. When we get back around
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: to the season, he's got a draft spectacular The Unbuttoned
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: from the Barn Tailor and Mike.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be there.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So this is very You gonna put them on the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: show or what if they come out?
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Probably not.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe we'll do some social media with them or something
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: like that. But be on the show. That's that's asking
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: too much.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Now come on, hey, Speaking of which, are you excited
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: to be working with Mike Tomlin this season?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I am. I'm pretty pumped about it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I don't know if I'll actually
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: be working with him. I think the hiring of him
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: might mean I'm not on the show anymore.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Actually, I just thought, you know, but.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for my bosses to kind of give
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: me a clue on where my life is going here.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm just enjoying the ride, just like you guys.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Listen, if they let you go, you're hired right here,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: We got you. Okay, thanks man, Okay, buddy, check him out.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I'll have the draft coverage for you all over NBC.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And of course the Unbuttoned podcast as well. From the
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: bar Chris Sims. We appreciate it, we miss you. We
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: always enjoy talking to you, buddy. Thank you for doing it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: You know it. Dido right here, have fun tomorrow night