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[SPEAKER_00]: their creation of cloth can ultimately mean human extinction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: AI is getting smarter and smarter if it gets access to the right key that opens the right door then AI can literally run the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we could go and argue and say well the world didn't end in 1999 but the world that as we knew it ended in 1999, like there was a major technology shift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't say, yeah, we're just shutting down all the AI is starting marching on Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they got their little robot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So no one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, drones, snipers and all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're controlling the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we voluntarily give them the information, because I need, I need, check.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said that they are aware that their creation of Claude can ultimately mean human extinction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because more and more people are going to start building relationships with AI and robots and all the things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Oprah asked, she's got the
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think their brother and sister, who created Claude, and so she's on, she went to Claude and asked Claude, what should I ask them today on my podcast?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Claude said, ask him his position on his statement about Claude leading to human extinctions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, let me find it real quick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh crap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but what he said was he gave a really good answer, okay?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Say I for research all the time and then use it for a lot of other things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But not for interviewing questions because I thought I have to keep the heart of myself in the questions until today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So this morning I asked Claude.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What is the most pressing question?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oprah Winfrey should ask, and Thropic CEO, Dario Amadei, in a sit-down interview, and Claude responded with this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It said, you've said there's a meaningful chance that technology your company is building, could cause human extinction, and yet you're racing to build it faster.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How do you justify that to the rest of us who didn't get a vote?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Would you like to answer quite well?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was a pretty damn good question I might say I am pretty first of all letting no one ever say that Claude is soft on me Towards me or towards and traffic like you know, well, I thought Claude throws hardballs Like it was doesn't what doesn't pull it's punches.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, so to actually answer the question
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[SPEAKER_06]: And this technology is an apocalyptic change for humanity.
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[SPEAKER_06]: At some point, humans started to use fire.
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[SPEAKER_06]: At some point, humans built steam engines and factories and that created the industrial revolution.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so when I say things like this, I'm taking a very zoomed out perspective, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: If I said, well, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think the Industrial Revolution could like lead to very powerful weapons and kill a bunch of people that's definitely, that's definitely true.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_06]: In some cases, if it did, did do that, did do it, but, you know, we,
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[SPEAKER_06]: We understand that the Industrial Revolution, as a process as a technological event, was, you know, we're doing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We don't still want to be living in caves, but we need to manage it in the right way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so the way we think about this company is
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[SPEAKER_06]: there's many companies building this technology.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's something that is happening to humanity one way or another.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're in it and there's this train.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's going very fast in some direction.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You don't want it to crash.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can't stop the train.
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[SPEAKER_06]: but what you can do is you can steer the train, steer the train so that it doesn't hit the rocks and you know, I think the way we think about anthropic is we want to do things the right way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We want to decrease that risk.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Hopefully, 2-0.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what do you think from that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: there was a lot of this this is a very I think this is a very important conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is one of the most important conversation I think conversations around AI.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that what he's saying is scary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that what he's saying is true especially the part where he said this is happening one way or the other is already happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's saying without Claude
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I don't understand, though, is why.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was speaking of Philly, and I was just giving examples on topics and conversations, and just trying to figure out what people's industry is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the young lady said she's in AI space, and I said, well, let's come up with important conversations to have around your space, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she said something like the environmental effect of AI.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She said, yo, the amount of electricity in water that it needs is like scary because it's just moving so fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I never connected electricity and water to AI usage, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I found this look electricity, AI needs a crazy amount of power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time someone trains a major AI model or millions of people use AI tools, powerful computer chips are running in data centers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those chips use electricity in a create heat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The International Energy Agency estimated that global data centers used about 450 terawight, 115 terawight, terawatt, hours of electricity in 2024, which is about 1.5% of the world's electricity consumption.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That number has been growing fast around 12% per year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: year over the last five years and the U.S. data centers used about 183 terawatt hours in 2024 more than 4% of the total U.S. electricity used and that could more than double.
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[SPEAKER_01]: by 2030.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one, it's not about higher electric bills, but also more fossil fuel is used to clean energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you use, if more fossil fuel use, if clean energy doesn't keep up with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the moral of the story is not just we're using a coal app, there are resources that's being pulled from the earth, the power and it's growing so fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's growing very quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I was reading the comments on that post, because he used the analogy of steering the train, like trains can be stopped.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This though, this is growing like wildfire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that a couple of months ago about how much water it takes to power these plants that
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[SPEAKER_00]: are powering AI.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you think about how much like it literally is enough water and electricity to save like a nation, like when you think about all the people who are dying from devastation and thirst and drought and all of these things, but we're using it to power these systems.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to start asking ourselves why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously the number one gain for whoever is going to be money
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[SPEAKER_00]: but what do we gain from human extinction in replacement of what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I start thinking about movies like Irobat and what is I am legend?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like is it to, you know, and these are just, are they crazy thoughts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, is there a conglomerate of humans?
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[SPEAKER_00]: that says, we want to be the last and start the human race over with our bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're gonna make everything else extinct except for us, us 100, and we'll multiply between us and this artificial intelligence and robots and all the things and create like this hybrid human.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that would be, do you think that's the goal of super powerful people?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not have anybody else in the world and let's start over?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How else do you control
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[SPEAKER_01]: an entire nation entire world or an entire world or an entire world you know what is crazy i never thought about that so with wars when you start talking about atomic bonds and stuff like that where you know we're gonna bond this nation and we want to like a blivit about blivit we're ready for it yeah that work
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I never thought about, okay, let's just get rid of this large group of people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we could just have our own people and grow our own people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're already in the lab.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, these new people that we speak of, they're already in incubators.
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[SPEAKER_00]: stirring up, cooking up, there's already talks of putting human-like flesh on robots so that they aren't as scary and as intimidating, like putting flesh like you can buy skins for your robot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo, can you imagine how we look on social media and we're trying to determine if this is real AI?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine walking through the mall having that same conversation?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like is that, are they, are they, are those people real?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine a world like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's this, there's this creator, I'm not sure if it was a creator or a celebrity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As Capul's out our Bible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just straight to the Bible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the oil in your hands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, with the oil.
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[SPEAKER_00]: page was managed by his parents or his mom, mom with this little boy and they're this family who's in financial despair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this little boy is like this genius when it comes to crocheting products.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were showing his journey of crocheting little things and then finally he crocheted a house and he got the attention of some celebrities and some influencers and they're buying these crocheted
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[SPEAKER_00]: so that they can help this family get out of this debt and pay their bills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this influencer yesterday, I wish I saved the poster, sent it to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said so I bought one and I never got the purse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never got an email confirmation, I never got anything and that started going down the deep dive and nobody else received it either and then she starts looking even more and she's
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[SPEAKER_00]: In her, she's like looking for validity of this company and she's on a chat, like asking about it and the little boy and his family are all AI.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And none of them were able to tell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The person's never existed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The AI page, the people never existed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was an AI family begging for money and pretending like this young man had like, and almost rain man like talent skillset
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, this is not a, um, when you really like think about it, this is not a, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really gives you a real feeling like I'm putting your stomach almost like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine, so everybody's moving to EV cars, obviously because gas prices, oil is up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't want to spend the first time I looked at it in a while, because I drove my wife's truck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was $4 a gallon, which I imagine high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have those problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I got a little Tesla, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got your all issues.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm even as we're looking for this new car, I'm like, we need to get like a EV something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't got to deal with the gas prices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just charge up at home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if the world moves to electrical vehicles,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And A.I.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is getting smarter and smarter to where it can start running through the internet, coding products is building whole ads, building whole companies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If it gets access to the right key that opens the right door, then A.I.
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[SPEAKER_01]: can literally run the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The traffic lights, our cars, our everything, our phones, what if all of our phones get shut off?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What if?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw the scariest video on the internet last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys may have seen it with these waymos in a neighborhood in Atlanta that we're just speeding through this one neighborhood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 50 of these waymos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it was the hood.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, it's the hood, but here's my thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everybody is like the people who live there or the people who release the video, they're recording it and they're like, yeah, what's wrong with this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's up with these cars?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like why are all these way modes in our neighborhood?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently there was maybe a cold a sack at the end of the street.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't show it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They stayed on the cars, but you could see the cars zoom and buy and some of them were like speeding, like they go down the street at natural speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they turned around and came back, they're flying out of this neighborhood, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: my mind immediately went to surveillance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was early in the morning and I began to wonder why 50 waymos or more would be in this neighborhood and then I started doing a deeper dive and I'm thinking bus stops, school zones, they're surveilling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This could be
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[SPEAKER_00]: trafficking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This could be some kind of setup for that purpose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could you imagine getting in a waymo and not being able to get out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I've taken one, the first one that I took was years ago in LA before it became a popular thing everywhere else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember getting in one, and I got in the car and it was normal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was already normal in LA and I got in and I'm like, oh, wow, this is interesting and we're driving and they they talk back to you and make sure you're
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[SPEAKER_00]: at that time, at least, we're comfortable in all the things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I saw that video, and then there is an influx of young boys that are missing in Atlanta, like they're going to target on Camp Creek and with friends and missing, just thin blue sky.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I saw that video, I'm like, I don't know if this was an accident at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What if this was intentional?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you get into these electric cars as controlled by whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you can't get out, like that ship me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we afraid for nothing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or not even afraid, I don't think that there's ever a reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's ever nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the United States history has proven that it's never nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It may not be always what we think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like everybody always thinks that things are conspiracy theories until 20 years later when it was true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but even when TV started coming out, they're like, oh, they're going to show you whatever they want to show you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can control the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they were saying, all right, we need to stop using money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to use digital stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And digital, they're going to control or advise money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the world's going to end or to internet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When the internet first came out, people are afraid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is going to be the end of the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the internet is so sophisticated, it crashes the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People are partying December 31st, 1999.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and nothing happened the next day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, are we just allowing history to repeat itself in every stage of evolution where even the farmers when we go from agricultural to industrial feel like, oh my gosh, we're not gonna have any air because all the trees are being bulldozed for factories and it's gonna be so much smoke and air everybody's gonna die.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we, are we just repeating that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think that there is to a degree, a, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is a degree at which we can be panicking about certain things, but to think that there's not enough reason to justify or validate why our minds can run rampant, I think is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The massacre will look ever again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still feel like I felt like I'm slave though, because
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're probably going to use AI a bunch of wartime today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, while, you know, we're going to be like in 1999, and everybody thought that the world was going to end in year 2000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But technology shifted the world in a major way that year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that the world operates changed in Y2K.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So then we could go and argue and say, well, the world didn't end in 1999.
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[SPEAKER_00]: ended in 1999, like there was a major technology shift in 1999, and it literally has and for us that can see it on this side, it was the start of what we could see with where technology is going, but I'm sure they have been working on it so long, which is why the song and the theme and the scare and the fright was all created because somebody leaked that news a long time ago, somebody knew what they were cooking up in these labs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those things would take you to that million dollar level.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you in there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What can we do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we could, let's say we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they got their little robot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got little drones, snipers and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got little drones, snipers, not listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think that...
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[SPEAKER_00]: we have, I don't know if we've allowed it, ignored it, supported it, but however it's happened, power has just been granted to certain, I don't even like to call them elitists because they're monsters, but power has been granted to a certain group of people and they are so fully protected.
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[SPEAKER_00]: against human humanity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, God's gonna deal with them, but I don't know that there's anything we can do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Trump is still free.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trump is still free.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, not only is Trump still free, like in real time voting rights are in question for black people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're rezoning these maps in certain cities and all that they to make it harder for black people to vote and they're concentrating specifically on minority areas where they know people aren't informed, but where they know that they aren't updated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're focusing on mom and pop areas that have been voting at the same place for the last 15 years, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now you get there on voting day and it's like, oh, this is no longer your polling location and all the things we're rezoning and redistricting
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's making it difficult for us to, they're trying to make it difficult for us to have a voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're doing this because what ends up happening is if they can control at this level, they get to control the constitution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can change the constitution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people think, oh, Trump can't have a third term because constitution, well, if they win at this level,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then if they win the Congress, which is what we're voting against right now, if they win Congress, which is why this is so important, and I know people think that their votes don't matter and all the things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if your vote didn't matter, you have to ask yourself, why are they going so hard to try to quiet it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are they trying to take it against a way from you if it didn't matter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also at this particular level, if they win Congress,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can rewrite the Constitution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can rewrite in a third term for Trump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can write in whatever they want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can abolish all the things that existed before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know that it's like the draw of the better, you know, like neither one of them are the best.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that whether you're choosing from the Republican party or the Democratic party, neither of them are the best, I don't believe that any of these candidates wholly have human humanity in mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that there are, these are power plays for a lot of people and all the things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: However, there are some that are playing a much,
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[SPEAKER_00]: more dangerous gain than the others, and there are some who blatantly want to remove your rights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a group of people who believe that their race and their status makes them elite and they can tell you and your race and the people of your status, what to do, what to say, how you can behave, and we've seen just in years of Trump being in office, how these
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[SPEAKER_00]: people who are racist, who don't like you, who don't respect you, who don't value your life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We see how out of control they have become in real time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we give this man the power to put himself in office.
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[SPEAKER_00]: another term.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What will become of what we're used to right now will change significantly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so your vote actually does matter and it does actually impact laws like maybe it's not changing your taxes or your tax bracket or maybe your small business is still suffering but we're talking about laws that govern our nation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have the power to at least keep the comfort level that we're used to right now because they're trying to rewind us back to slavery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the way to stop it is voting, yes?
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the ways, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that social media, I mean, we all love social media and we use social media.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but it could be the most damaging thing we have because it creates so much divisiveness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the new propaganda because someone gets to decide what you see and what you don't see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's not just you posted in everybody's season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone gets to decide that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's so much divisiveness and there's always gonna be two sides of an argument because that's where I guess maybe we've been trained.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to operate like if someone has an opinion that's too popular there's always a group of people that has to oppose it no matter what color you are no matter what nationality you are no matter what your current belief is there's there's almost I just don't have a lot of faith in
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[SPEAKER_01]: and our community to come together, not because anything's wrong with the community, but because of what we've been trained in a very thing that we use and lean on every single day, is the same thing that's killing us back to the conversation about AI.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to use it, because they're using it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they use it better than us, they win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if we don't get really really if we do get really really good at it we're still adding to the strength of the problem because we probably shouldn't i mean they're saying that these data centers and stuff may take half of all of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: the U.S. consumption of electricity, just in the United States, it takes half of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we are competing for electricity with these corporations, so we got to use it, but the thing we're using is killing us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have more and more when Solomon said, it's all meaningless, I feel that.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So do I. I'm as money you make.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm as power you think you have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's always someone that can get determined what happens to you, and your money or your wealth, or setting something up.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: My gosh, the attack on especially black leaders and black voices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is intentional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is intentional.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, scripture even has written it as so after mission
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[SPEAKER_00]: like it spelled out that there will be evil doers amongst us and we don't necessarily get to see how they're dealt with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: God says his judgment, they will come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Lord, yikes!
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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so back to this money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are we going to get this money done?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even the conversation like going and building and being ambitious, it's like, for what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It matters in our lifetime, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It matters in our lifetime, and maybe it matters for a couple of generations to come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is we don't know.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: There's several problems, right?
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: some problem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a problem that we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a problem that we're not really focused on trying to find out.
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: We probably are spending more time figuring out how to build a successful podcast than we are and trying to figure out how to control political offices, right?
27:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Another problem is that we don't take anything seriously.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is a skit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything gets made fun of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything gets made a joke of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then another problem is that we're not standing on any business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's too many people who are
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[SPEAKER_00]: sitting on the fence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's trying to justify, well, I can see where they're coming from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to stop seeing where people are coming from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just really draw a hard line.
27:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see when it comes to these races and I don't see where people are coming from.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like every single video that I see of black people finally defending themselves and drawing a hard line there's there's these two, um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: These two, oh gosh, the word is looping my mind, leaders who confronted this lawyer who was going into the courtroom, this video is going viral right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's civil rights leaders, but they're going into this courtroom, confronting this white lawyer who called a black woman the inward in her face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's other people who are around and didn't defend these, this black woman, and so this man and this woman pull up to the courtroom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they stop him in his tracks and say, so you call him black women the in-word now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Say it in my face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The man says, say it in my face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Say it in my face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I dare you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll make you taste your ancestors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything in me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, like finally, he says, say it to me.
28:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will make you taste your ancestors.
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand that violence should not be get violence will only be getting more violence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't keep that same energy when they're slaughtering our kids and traffic in our kids and murdering our men and treating our women like crap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes somebody has to draw a fine line and say, I don't understand where you're coming from.
28:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a damn that this is how you were raised.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about none of that.
28:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make you taste your ancestors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the kind of energy that I think is needed right now, unfortunately in this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody is putting the fear of anything back in these people's faces like they're coming in.
29:05
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing their little Karen and their little Ken stuff that they got going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just sitting back and we're allowing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw this lady, this mom, who's currently in the news, whose autistic son has been going to school and he's been coming home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's non-verbal, but she knew something was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in his hair to find that this white lady was verbally assaulting him and strangled him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When she saw this footage, she went to the school and demanded accountability.
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[SPEAKER_00]: what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know you're saying demanding accountability like she's keeping her accountable or you're just going to the school and saying you're going to acknowledge that that racist woman abused my child.
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I would have stumped this woman's esophagus out the back of her throat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you hear me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what do you mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, I don't want your acknowledgement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even understand how more than half of these cases make it to the place where people are sitting in the back of police cars while interviews are how did the police get involved before the coroner's office did is what I am like the question that I have in many of these situations like we play too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We play too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are the police giving like the medical examiner should be on the scene?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You strangle my child, my non-verbal autistic child, and this has been going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't speak for himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't defend himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw another situation with a black father in his daughter and some white woman came screaming all these racist remarks and then pushed his baby in the pool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's standing up there talking to police officers making a report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are y'all kidding me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why they keep doing it because you're allowing too many police reports and not medical reports to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: period.
31:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We live in a really ugly world.
31:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the, here's my, my question is, is there a solution at all?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we need one, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we add leaders back in the day that would have a group of people come together and we come up with a solution.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we think we've solved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we did for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had some progression, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: There laws that were changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were black people couldn't go to certain bathrooms, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we come together and we make something happen.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And so your point is like, all you can do is fight them because we got Harriet Tubman who freed the slaves finally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got rights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're free.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we think we're getting and then we move on to the civil rights movement and now we got Martin Luther King, Dr. Martin Luther King and Malcolm Mexican and that group of civil rights leaders and finally like finally it worked and then we just move on to the next group and then somehow we get these bonds of Clarence Thomas's who come out and just set us back and do like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like every couple of generations were back fighting for our lives, literally fighting for our lives.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was because back then, we all struggled at the same struggle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We all fought the same fight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We understood that if we had money back then, we were still black.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're still black.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'd be successful, but it took crazy to a white person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're still, you'll find out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're still black.
32:55
[SPEAKER_01]: now we don't have a collector struggle now we don't have that it's not it's not like y'all we all have to be in together everybody meet me at this one location so we can fight together we don't have that because everyone's busy and everyone's building their own thing and everyone wants to be successful and everybody wants to be an influencer and if you get a bunch of people in the room everyone wants to be the leader
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I need someone to take my phone and show me talking real quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we need to do y'all And then I want to post I want to do it.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't I don't know that there is a solution at all because the evil Seen is winning and it seems like they have the tools and the resources and the allies from the people that they're fighting
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They have allies, so we can get Nicki Minaj to go to the rally and say, oh, it's my fair person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's super cool.
33:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The person that is oppressing you and let you step out of pockets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone is going to dig up something from your past and make it huge and you are going to jail, Nicki?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how this works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're going to use you, you put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: until they can't use you anymore.
34:14
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how this works, but that's how it's been working.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And in all seriousness, like, we need more Angela Davis's and Malcolm X's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're using us, but we're where we're using them back.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know if,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if anything ever changes if they just keep doing to us, and we're never doing it back.
34:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's no way to do it back because we are divided.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So divided.
34:42
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, I don't, I don't see a world, I don't see a world where
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: enough people come together to fight this power.
34:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I was crazy about their divided two until it comes to us.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're divided two until it comes to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They are divided their classes, their elidas, they're all the things, but when it comes to
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[SPEAKER_00]: black people and stripping us in minorities and stripping them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on the same page.
35:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, Trump and Elon could be beef in the internet world one day.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the China the next day.
35:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's just all right.
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We cool.
35:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's, but yeah, we don't we don't have.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have that in any culture, like we don't have it.
35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a group of people who are becoming smarter, faster, technologically than us and have the resources to hypergrow that speed with this AI.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're controlling the world and we voluntarily give them an information because I need, I need check.
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Our political leaders are at day parties, and theirs are in China trying to figure out how to take over the world.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, do you remember the political campaign with the democratic nominee where it threw a concert, would make the stallion?
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[SPEAKER_01]: happen, drop it, and lock it in.
36:19
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No mention of the mission.
36:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Man should have been, they could have used man and said, write a song about our policy.
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: put the pants on.
36:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Put some pants on.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a serious business.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Write a song about policy, let's start a chant, just like, um, my president is black.
36:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
36:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: My president is black.
36:43
[SPEAKER_00]: What was Obama saying, um, when he was in office, yes, we can.
36:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where are our anthems like to get people, because we like rhyming words?
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Put it in a song.
36:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But right after my president's black,
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It was my Lambo.
37:00
[SPEAKER_00]: My Lambo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My president is black.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My Lambo too.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be glad.
37:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's my community.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Haha.
37:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But, but, but.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe there was some responsibility there because we like rhyming words.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: We like beats and tempos and races and stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Put it on the track.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever we got to do, but we don't need, we don't need more hoties on stage.
37:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what I'm saying from their catalog and not pushing a message.
37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think did he was just a freaky man and nobody cared until, he led that, he really led that political campaign.
37:47
[SPEAKER_01]: The campaign?
37:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with Obama, I think that's when the investigation started.
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
37:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's when the investigation started.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You started my vote as black, too.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I remember a part of that campaign.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he was a major figure?
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of what I got me excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, did he is really doing his thing?
38:12
[SPEAKER_00]: We need to end up because we have so little interest in politics and so little understanding in politics.
38:22
[SPEAKER_00]: We love music, we love sports, we love games.
38:26
[SPEAKER_00]: We need more of the, my vote is black.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My president is black, the yes we can.
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like make songs about it, whatever we have to do to put it, put it in some rhyming words.
38:39
[SPEAKER_00]: So people understand, I am not even as,
38:44
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fluent in political conversations as I need to be, but I know the main things that are happening, right?
38:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know it just can't be them again.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And we got to figure out how to make it cool.
38:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, we like to follow trends.
38:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make fighting for our power to keep our power or cool.
39:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's build some traction in that way.
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make voting cool because if we show up in the numbers,
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[SPEAKER_00]: than the vote does matter, but because so many people are having conversations about will doesn't matter.
39:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Like all you have to do is plant one negative seed and one person's head and for it to fall down.
39:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now let's make some anthems.
39:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it on the back of the track shirts because we like watching races.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it on a uniform.
39:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do something.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's stand for something.
39:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't kick us all out of the league.
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't cancel us all.
39:38
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't somebody has to stand for it.
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is my way of standing for it.
39:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I use my platform every chance I get.
39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I have even threatened my friends.
39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: If y'all don't vote, we are not aligned.
39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so angry.
39:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Ugh, because
39:56
[SPEAKER_00]: While you don't know if it matters, while you're having that argument, what we can say for sure is doing nothing is worse.
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I want to, I want to, I want to, in the reason I just think it's so challenging is one point from earlier, if we all use our platforms collectively, they suppress the content.
40:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll just surprise it.
40:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll just strike it.
40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's about politics, but they'll let some pass through.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's another example.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So Jamal Bryant's made a post on threats and I'm going to go to this post because I saw it.
40:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, go, go post, all right.
40:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But when I go into the comments, he said Georgia is going to have a governor named Kisha.
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That was his post.
40:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But exclamation boy, and light the low hands up and a little prayer hands.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. First comment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If that happens, then kiss George's exceptional economy goodbye.
41:06
[SPEAKER_01]: George will rule a next comment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: George will remain red in capital letters.
41:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Next comment, she ruined Atlanta.
41:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all negativity fighting, but it's not, it's not like people of other communities.
41:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's us.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's us.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's us.
41:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it possible for anything to change?
41:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I kind of, I just give them hope, bro.
41:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
41:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We just have to wait until, um, doomsday, and then we see what happens.
41:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's going so far now, because of the advent of the thing that we love, which is social media, and that is the new propaganda I think they try to create it with TV where they show you what they want you to see, and then they make newspaper headlines about whatever they want you to see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And once that kind of got maybe watered down, we just created social media, controlled by a person, if we can get the whole world on this platform, we get to control the narrative, and we can even flip some people out on the other side.
42:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Based on the content that we let it seep through, because we are easily convinced, based on what we see.
42:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So somebody says, I'm not 100% convinced
42:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yes.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't know where I want to build Cosby.
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but based on what we saw, and what we're allowed to see, this man was a monster.
42:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe anything I see right here now.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like even when it comes to Diddy, I believe 100% he was a freaky freaky man.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was a violent man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we don't know any other things outside of what we've seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we see the evidence stacked against a person, we're like, yep, that is what happened.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, more and more that I start to use AI and CAI and see how things can be manipulated, I would never be 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would never be 100% pro anything that I see right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all fake to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These couple goals, business goals, relationship goals, career goals, like, oh, y'all lion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody lion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody lion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a sprinkle of cap in everybody's situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But on another note,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do believe we need to use whatever little platform that we have and whatever voice that we have because eventually maybe we'll smarten up and get offline and start connecting together again in person where they can't suppress what I say to you because I'm saying it to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what's really, as we're talking about this and you mentioned division, I was just on threats this morning and I was sitting here trying to find it, but there is this influx of women who not only have they not only have they been able to divide us as a race, but they have been able to divide us in a familial way as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an influx of women who are saying, I am more peaceful without a man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now let me say that there's a little bit of truth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little truth for there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me say that as a single woman, I literally just posted the other day, I was in the sauna on a random Tuesday, I think, Monday, Monday or Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm in the sun as the middle of the day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in the sun after I just finished my Pilates class, at my luxury, spa gym membership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've got a client call that cancel that day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had some unexpected free hours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was in the sun just really thanking God for my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just who do I think I am?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got this luxurious gym membership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Better than the one that I had been a member of and the one that everybody in Atlanta likes to be a member of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get all the services, all the treatment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm able to walk from my house to this place and back and do all the things and I'm pretty respected in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to build a business based on who I am and do all these things and I'm sitting and I don't have stress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no real stress like there's things that happen, but people have always asked me like, well, Donnie, what's your key to youthfulness?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you know, the only difference between me and a lot of people that I know is that I, and I've always said this jokingly, I ain't got nobody sunstressing me out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the moment somebody starts to stress me out, it becomes eliminated, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's over with, like I just, I'm not dealing with repeat stress from the same person about the same thing, done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was in this sauna and I was thinking like, first of all, God, I'm just so grateful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I don't say any of these things to like flex on anybody, I'm just truly acknowledging what God has been able to do in my life because sometimes we overlook little things like, I'm in the sauna in the middle of the day on Monday while most people are made to believe that they have to be at work, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just expressing gratitude for this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, this is the most, this is the softest my life has ever been ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was shocked when I felt it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, wow, I've been in some pretty significant relationships.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, most of the time, whenever I'm in a relationship, I'm typically dating to Mary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in a long-term relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, in this position to say this is the softest, my life has ever been so I, before we have this conversation ladies, I get you, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I created the softest, my life has ever been me, God, my goals, just the way that I've chosen to live my life, my boundaries, all these things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And people say that this comes with age.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it's me being in my 40s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just like, I'm not heaven under that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is what I do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I am seeing all over the internet almost every single day
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[SPEAKER_00]: women are jokingly seriously saying, I'll choose the bear, I'd rather have the cats, I'd rather live alone, I don't want them in like whenever you hear like a man has attacked a woman, the comments are full of, and this is why I'm single, this is why I don't want a man, and my first thought like, that's not what I don't want this to be the softest my life will ever be, I want
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[SPEAKER_00]: to be in a very significant relationship with a with a man and we create softness for each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have to believe that it's going to get better than this, but it like it be funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd be laughing at the comments, but at the same time it like makes me sad that we have somehow been programmed to believe that we're better off without each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mmm, it's a pressure now because cool content, like if they make content,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know about care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We want salaciousness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want salaciousness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Salaciousness is sexy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the most important thing you have to do right now is just find a community that loves you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need a community that loves you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the crappiest segue into marketing and plugging the social proof circle, which happens to be a community where
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[SPEAKER_00]: where people do love you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do, I do mean, that's why I do give up whole kind of in community and relationship because it's all like me, me, me, myself, self, self.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am proud of the fact that we've been building communities for a very, very long time, because I know I still enjoy human interaction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you enjoy not wondering if something real or not, like let me get to meet a person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see another human being.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do like, I see stats that people are coming back outside and the rise of in-person events is back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's valuable and important,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you are alone, and all you see is what you've trained to algorithm to give you, that is the community or in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to ask yourself, do I want to be around this community of single women as happy to be single, because that's the community I put myself in via social media, or fights and people pop in it and drop in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the communities you've put yourself in, because that's what you see every day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still one foot in that community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you're hanging out to club every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't go to the club at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you don't have any positivity in your community, this is where you become.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I did the tonight's conversation show here in Atlanta last week and I had an outstanding time doing this show and people joke about the tonight's conversation podcast about it being
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, as I was really sitting there backstage with Ace watching him pull these questions that people themselves right down on paper and say, this is my question, he sits backstage and he goes through these questions and he picks out the ones that he thinks can spark conversation, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But as I'm looking at the ones that he's not picking like, he doesn't really have a lot to work with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of these questions are some form of toxicity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, um, I'm thinking number one, first of you guys have ever wondered, they're not making these questions up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are questions that the paying members of the audience actually submit when they enter the question that they want.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Lance Gross is on the tour right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Lance Gross, um, it was cool to meet him because I'm cool with his sister.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his sister and I have been cool for a couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We met through my cousin Brandy and it was
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[SPEAKER_00]: to meet him, but I am always, it's really sad that I am always pleasantly surprised by men who honor their marriages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like for that to be the norm, but I'm always surprised.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like before the show today, I said, yeah, Dave, but you're married differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lance Gross is also a man who based on what he's demonstrated, or based on what he demonstrated that night and what he's been consistent with on the show, he's married differently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say that called different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm in that's that's what that would be like you're married like regular married You're regular married.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what has become I agree with you fully So Lance is on the panel and there is this woman who's asking a question and she's basically saying I am married but Me and my husband are in the thick of things and I went back to my ex and now I'm in love with him again too
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[SPEAKER_00]: and I don't know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been with my ex all this time and I love him, but you know, should I try it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now my husband wants to work things out, should I try to work it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Lance basically was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's giving advice and some of it is funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of it is real, but it gets to Lance and he's like, yo, what's up with y'all?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's wrong with y'all?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I love being married to my wife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No matter what we go through, I'm the provider.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No matter if it's up one day and it's down one day or up one season or down the next season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I love honoring my vows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he basically tells this woman like, it's, I'm a Paul that is even a question of what you should do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't deserve that, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't deserve this husband who has stuck by you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: all this time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he really got in his feelings about the number of people because there were so many questions about, from married people with these, who felt like they had these options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I could see in his heart, like you could see it and feel it and hear it, he's like, I honor my wife differently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love being married.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am committed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I made these vows and, and that's just what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Heart times, this is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think women are choosing and people because men are saying the same thing too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we are choosing this isolation in these single seasons or single lifestyles because there's not enough of you guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: who are saying, this is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am married, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you about the highlights of marriage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you how marriage is making my life easier, and it's not just about money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you how I can come and lay my head on my lips in my wife's lap and cry on her shoulder and not be judged.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you how she helps me with this legacy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you how she helps with the kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you how I wouldn't have survived that flu if it wasn't for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just tell you how I just like the way she smells.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like there needs to be more of that instead is only conversation or our often conversation about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the prenapping with that ball down to in the nagging and with that ball down to in the clubs and how you can't go here and there in other places where are the married men who are married correctly, who are coming out and just saying, if she didn't do anything for me this week, I just like the way she smells.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like having her company around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like her conversation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the advice that she gives me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the way she brushes her teeth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like looking at
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[SPEAKER_00]: woman in on top of that she's a multiplier on top of that she to provide on top of that she's a nurture on top of that I wouldn't be who I am without her where is that movement and that's going to make people desire relationship again oh um i don't think uh that conversation is ever going to be highlighted because one it depends on the day right they start
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[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on the day, okay?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But because it's challenging, it's challenging to stay committed, stay faithful, especially in this world we live in, where there's so one, there's a lot of temptation to the moral compass of human beings now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is really trash, and back then, you didn't, you didn't see as many, you didn't, you couldn't see any woman you wanted to, you just saw the joys of your neighborhood, when you saw them or you go to the club and see them, but you go home, you can't like go scroll on the pages and all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's another enemy temptation, social media is a nasty place, and then, and then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: our music specifically our community, our music can't use and for decades have fought against that message.
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[SPEAKER_01]: every, all of our music, if you listen to your favorite song, especially by a rapper, male rapper specifically, your favorite song, we sing the lyrics in their terrible lyrics.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're terrible about how to look at women and then our, where do we even get to work in front of some music video that objectified that woman and allowed a merry man to see that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we see a bunch of them everywhere, and it's like, oh, it's almost like you're
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's like, are you calling me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is not, I don't, again, the way the world is going,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think even prophetically, this world we're living is way worse than Solomon, Solomon Gamora back then because it's so much access, even back then you can only really see the joys with the dirty feet in the sand when you see them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see anything as far as your village alone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can see anything, but I think, you know, yeah, and, and, and you're not even, you won't even get stoned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll almost get a prodigy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stepping on Diggs is the man right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You give rewards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: According to men, I get the baddest ones in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I may, I give all of my baby and I'm off to the next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a nasty world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a nasty world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we like less and less discipline as an individual, which leads to less and less discipline as a culture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're not perfect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to figure it out to say that the world is worse now than it was then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do have this access, but I still believe that there's a glimmer of hope, because Lance has always had this access.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a star, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always had, and he found.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's always had access to the top of the line group of picks of women.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure there have been many that have not cared about his marital status and offered up anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And still,
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[SPEAKER_00]: based on what he said and how he demonstrated in just his body language was just it matched like he was uncomfortable with these conversations about all this cheating and infidelity and all the things like you could you could see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And um...
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[SPEAKER_00]: He said this access, so before social media, he had movie sets and backstage passes and all the things and still he chooses his wife and that doesn't mean that he or anybody else's perfect is just social media is a dangerous plan for people who lack discipline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also we don't know what that's did, so we don't know what goes on in this household.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't ruin it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't ruin it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: unquestionably, beautifully fine men being angry at the conversations of infidelity and separation and all the things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need more successful men standing up and saying, no, actually I wouldn't have it any other way because there are men who say this like, now that I'm married, I wouldn't be I'm married.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because I be hearing people say, if I ever get divorced, I'd never do this again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, you guys, we need each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't even designed to be individuals.
1:00:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we weren't not not individuals, but we weren't designed to be not together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We, it was man and it was woman and we were made.
1:00:12
[SPEAKER_00]: from the dust and of the rib.
1:00:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we are joined, we are supposed to be together and we're supposed to be figuring this way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, all we're really supposed to be doing is leading more people to God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really it.
1:00:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And what we're leading people to is more destruction.
1:00:28
[SPEAKER_00]: and it's crazy, and we all contribute to it, like in our own little way, we all contribute to it.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_00]: But we can't give up on love.
1:00:36
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't give up on fighting for ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't give them our power in our freedom.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't go and vote, you are giving away your power and your freedom.
1:00:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And we can't give them our mind and our confidence.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not a part of a community,
1:00:52
[SPEAKER_00]: where you're having conversations like this on a regular basis, but not even just conversations like this, conversations about how to change your economy.
1:01:02
[SPEAKER_00]: how to contribute, how to build something, how to break generational curses, then you're also doing yourself with disservice, and I know that David and I talked about a lot of heavy stuff, and we also joke about a lot of stuff, but social proof circle is really where you wanna be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really is a community of people who are thinking for themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a community of people who are building beyond themselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a community of people who are interested in breaking generational curses,
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[SPEAKER_00]: being informed the way that we can be being able to have control and power in the way that we can have control and power and you deserve to be in that room amongst those conversations building for the better because otherwise what are you sitting around at home talking about?
1:01:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Social proof circle go to the social proof circle
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_00]: actually go to the link that we drop we got the link right go to the link that we drop wherever you see this in the in the description of wherever you watch in this video now i cannot promise that will be offering a guest pass for you to come and try it out for a long time but at least of the date of this recording we're offering you a guest pass i think it's like three days or seven days you go there you do that work to find out whatever it is but we're giving you
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[SPEAKER_00]: a guest pass to come and try it out be a part of conversations that's changing generations because our goal is to change it for the better.
1:02:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get back to stoning people in the marketplace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's start, listen, I know where we can get some rocks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stony on the marketplace.
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I know where we can get some rocks.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Jesus said, hey, guys that ain't no vending happening right here, all right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Shut the marketplace down.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I flip all these tables.
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the original table flipper over.
1:02:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They dig it back the tar and feather you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You act up, okay, in this community.
1:02:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You're capital letter A.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You love y'all, with y'all in the circle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right calm down calm down calm down calm down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay first question everybody has a podcast now.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did yours work?
1:03:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Good question because I wasn't chasing views.
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_02]: What were you chasing?
1:03:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to get access to the rooms I didn't belong in yet
1:03:17
[SPEAKER_04]: You think this guy's not even a real podcast there?
1:03:19
[SPEAKER_04]: You just all you're using for his business.
1:03:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
1:03:22
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most people start a podcast to talk.
1:03:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I started when they built something.
1:03:27
[SPEAKER_03]: And that turned into a business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen man, that turned into everything.
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_03]: They what you're going to do, man?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought podcast some of it was two days and talking about microphone phones.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people come to learn how to start a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some people come to learn how to grow a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But everybody's going to leave knowing how to build something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No more questions.