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Another Example That NIL Deals Mean Nothing · Winning Cures Everything | College Football

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  Speaker 1: On today's show, we got a big ten quarterback that
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  Speaker 1: entered the portal after signing an NIL deal. We got
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  Speaker 1: another quarterback Dad committed and then flipped. The very next day.
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  Speaker 1: We got a CFP semi final, big time piece that's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be playing. We have got good gracious,
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  Speaker 1: We've got all kinds of things going on the calendar,
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  Speaker 1: the CFP calendar potentially changing. Cf viewership is up. There's
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  Speaker 1: get into this because there's a few things that we
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  Speaker 1: need to be talking about this morning. Last night, at
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  Speaker 1: some point Demon Williams, the Washington quarterback, he decided he
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  Speaker 1: was going to enter the transfer portal. And apparently this
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  Speaker 1: went down when the rest of his teammates were all
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  Speaker 1: at a like a memorial for a soccer player at
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  Speaker 1: Washington that tragically passed due to cancer. So of course
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  Speaker 1: everybody was incredibly irritated, at least everybody at Washington. But
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  Speaker 1: he announced this four days after he signed an NIL
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  Speaker 1: agreement with Washington. And this isn't the first time we've
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  Speaker 1: seen this. Right, Wisconsin, they had a player Xavier or
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  Speaker 1: Lucas I think it was, that signed an agreement, never
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  Speaker 1: entered the portal withdrew from school and then went and
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  Speaker 1: played at Miami. And it's hard to blame him at
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  Speaker 1: this point Miami is still playing. But even still until
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  Speaker 1: they collectively bargain, until these deals are known as employment contracts,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much they're actually worth. Now Washington
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  Speaker 1: is going to say we are going to hold him
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  Speaker 1: to this contract, so if he decides he's going to
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  Speaker 1: play somewhere else, he is going to owe us, basically,
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  Speaker 1: And I haven't seen the deal, but it's one of
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  Speaker 1: those standard Big ten template deals for nil and it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be, if I'm not mistaken, like a multi
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  Speaker 1: year thing. But basically, it wouldn't be that it would
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  Speaker 1: prevent him from playing for whoever else. And it appears
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  Speaker 1: that LSU is who reached out to him, but it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be that they could keep him from playing for LSU.
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  Speaker 1: It would be that the player owes Washington damages and
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  Speaker 1: who knows what that dollar figure amounts to. So say
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  Speaker 1: you signed up for two million dollars, well, if you
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  Speaker 1: have to pay the entire contract back, if LSU is
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  Speaker 1: offering six, all right, we just made four million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess that makes sense. But even then, I
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  Speaker 1: still don't know exactly how how firm these contracts are.
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  Speaker 1: I think firm is a good word. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: a good way. I wouldn't say secure. How legal? How's that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how legal any of this is without
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  Speaker 1: having some kind of an employement contract, without collectively bargaining
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  Speaker 1: all that, And that's what this is going to lead to,
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  Speaker 1: because if you don't have a CBA, then none of
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  Speaker 1: the things that they're doing are going to be viewed
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  Speaker 1: as such. In a court of law. Now there is
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  Speaker 1: a chance that if Washington takes him to court and whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: then it is what it is, and maybe he has
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  Speaker 1: to pay some damages. But I still think he probably
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  Speaker 1: makes out better on the other side. But man, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I saw it, my initial my initial thought,
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  Speaker 1: thanks to the West Life Pirates boys, there's only one
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  Speaker 1: person that would do this, that would be and it's
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  Speaker 1: not evil per se, but man, of course Lane Kiffin.
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  Speaker 1: Of course LSU. Right, they ain't got their quarterback yet.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Levitt is still on campus. While sam Levitt was
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  Speaker 1: in Baton Rouge, it came out that he is still
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  Speaker 1: planning on transfer or not transferring, but he is h
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  Speaker 1: he's going to check out Tennessee as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: LSU needs a quarterback and Deman Williams is really good,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens there. But yeah, the signed
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  Speaker 1: Denil agreement, the standard Big ten template. It's the same
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  Speaker 1: apparent document that Wisconsin was using and whatnot. And we
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  Speaker 1: see that nothing happened with him. And if you think that,
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  Speaker 1: other conferences are not pointing that out, like hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know this kid signed it, but he withdrew from
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  Speaker 1: school and immediately went and got to play at Miami.
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  Speaker 1: So take of that what you will, but there's still
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  Speaker 1: no resolution on the Wisconsin Miami thing. And if there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing that ties you to it, you can kind of
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  Speaker 1: do whatever you want to. Like these these documents are
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  Speaker 1: worth about as much as the print or the paper
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  Speaker 1: that the printed on, which is not good. Not good.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough in these transfer portal streets. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of tired of it personally, Like I would
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  Speaker 1: just like some kind of resolution. But the only way
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  Speaker 1: that we're ever going to get there is if they
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  Speaker 1: collectively bargain with the athletes. And yes, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be incredibly difficult because you've got one hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 1: six teams, you've got a roster limit of like what
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  Speaker 1: one o five on each, I mean that is an
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  Speaker 1: outrageous number of players. In the NFL, you've got thirty
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  Speaker 1: two teams and what roster sizes fifty three, So like
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  Speaker 1: we're not talking about a lot, but in college football,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it might would be better or easier
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  Speaker 1: to collectively bargain if you had forty teams, you know,
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  Speaker 1: almost like a super league, a super conference, if you will, Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: onto the next and we have a quarterback, a Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame backup quarterback that announced his commitment to one school
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  Speaker 1: and then flipped to another school the very next day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about it's crazy people
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  Speaker 1: coming in with dollar figures, Like, well, I was committed,
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  Speaker 1: but that's before I saw how much money they were offering.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, no, that's not how commitment works. Kenny Minchi
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  Speaker 1: was the Notre Dame backup quarterback. Apparently he was neck
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  Speaker 1: and neck with CJ. Carr in that race. Now, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't get to play a ton this year for Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: at least, not any real meaningful snaps, but all indications
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  Speaker 1: are that he is pretty awesome. And he announced that
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  Speaker 1: he was going to commit to Nebraska. He was going
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  Speaker 1: to take the place of Dylan Rayola, and everything was
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  Speaker 1: going to be good. But Kentucky came in after they
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  Speaker 1: did not land the commitment of Sam Lovitt, and they said,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well you're our next choice, and here's the
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  Speaker 1: amount of money that we're willing to pay you, and
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Minchi said, deuces Nebraska. So he is now headed
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  Speaker 1: to Kentucky, and that left an opening for Nebraska. Now,
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  Speaker 1: luckily Nebraska was already ready. They I'm guessing that they
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  Speaker 1: had a feeling this could happen, But they ended up
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  Speaker 1: getting a commitment from Anthony Calandria, UNLV quarterback former starter
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  Speaker 1: at Virginia. Used to be the whoopsie Daisy king if
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  Speaker 1: you listened to cover three right. He big plays, but
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  Speaker 1: also lots of turnovers. Well, he cut down on the
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  Speaker 1: turnovers this year, so I guess that's good and we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Like at Nebraska got him a starting quarterback that's got
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  Speaker 1: some experience, which is probably better than what they had.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think, if given the options, I'd probably rather
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  Speaker 1: have Calandria because, like you've seen him be able to
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Minchi, it's it's all just a dream, right, it's hope.
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  Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with hope.
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  Speaker 1: Hope is the most dangerous thing you can give a man.
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  Speaker 1: But now Nebraska with Calandria, Kentucky with Kenny Minchi, it's
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  Speaker 1: very interesting. Again, it is wild in these transfer portal streets.
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  Speaker 1: Things are crazy out there. Crazy. A reminder, if you
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  Speaker 1: are on Thursday evening and Friday evening, and Friday is
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  Speaker 1: the biggin right Oregon and Indiana. And there were rumors
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  Speaker 1: going around on the Twitter verse that Jordan Davison, the
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  Speaker 1: freshman running back for Oregon that had started to get
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  Speaker 1: the majority of the carries for the Ducks. He had
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, only had forty three yards rushing against Texas Tech,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's Texas Tech. What are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: But apparently he got injured at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech game and people were talking about it, but
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have anything official. But now it is official.
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  Speaker 1: He is going to be out for that game. Oregon
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  Speaker 1: already has two other running backs that are in the portal,
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  Speaker 1: another one that is out injured, and now you've got
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  Speaker 1: Davison that's out injured. So Oregon is down to two
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  Speaker 1: running backs, and you've got your senior and leading rusher,
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  Speaker 1: Noah Whittington. Now his carries had dropped off as of late,
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  Speaker 1: and then you got the freshman d'er Hill or sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Dierre Hill junior. Davison led the team in rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: He was the leading rusher in the first meeting with Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: He broke his clavical towards the end of the game
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  Speaker 1: against Texas Tech and it was a random flute play,
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  Speaker 1: but he's he's going to be out so Oregon not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of running backs in that room, curious what
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna do for any kind of depth, and they
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  Speaker 1: probably were only going to play two anyway. Deer Hill junior,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he averages over eight yards of carry. He's
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  Speaker 1: got over five hundred yards rushing on the season, but
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  Speaker 1: the majority of the carries had gone to Davison as
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  Speaker 1: of late. So it kind of changes up the way
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  Speaker 1: that the Ducks want to do things you don't want to.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to go against Indiana without a running game.
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  Speaker 1: I know that. I'm curious about that one. So that
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  Speaker 1: line still stays at three and a half. I still
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  Speaker 1: like Indiana like it might just be I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: could be in a number of things. The man they
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  Speaker 1: put a whipping on Alabama, it's hard to get that
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  Speaker 1: image out of my head, all right, CFP viewership for
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  Speaker 1: the quarterfinals, it was up fourteen percent year over year.
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  Speaker 1: In the biggest one, of course, Alabama losing, that's still
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  Speaker 1: great for TV numbers. The Rose Bowl, even in a
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  Speaker 1: blowout thirty eight to three Indiana over Alabama, averaged twenty
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  Speaker 1: three point nine million viewers. It peaked at over twenty
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  Speaker 1: five million. It was the most watched game of the
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  Speaker 1: twelve team CFP era, which is of the past two seasons.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not it's not like it's crazy, uh, but
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  Speaker 1: that number was more than last year semi either of
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  Speaker 1: last year's semifinals or the championship game. Miami against Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State did nineteen million. Ole Miss against Georgia did eight
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  Speaker 1: point seven million, Oregon against Texas Tech did fifteen point
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  Speaker 1: nine million. So overall average of nineteen point three million,
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  Speaker 1: that's up fourteen percent, and that's good. I think people
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  Speaker 1: are interested to see the big boys lose. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: more curious about is what are the numbers going to
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  Speaker 1: be like for the semi finals. How many people really
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  Speaker 1: want to watch ole Miss in Miami and how many
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  Speaker 1: people really want to watch Oregon in Indiana. Like I
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  Speaker 1: think both of them are going to do in the
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  Speaker 1: tens because it's a solo, big time football game on ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in a standalone spot. But what is what
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  Speaker 1: are these numbers going to look like compared to last year,
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  Speaker 1: compared to when they typically have you know, the Biggins
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  Speaker 1: Right when you've got Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: you can guarantee those numbers are going to do well. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest names left would be Oregon and Miami.
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  Speaker 1: So if you don't have those going forward, say it's
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  Speaker 1: an old Miss Indiana, you know, college football National Championship,
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  Speaker 1: what kind of numbers does it do? So I'm curious.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what is going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: And finally we'll end on this one. Not going to
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  Speaker 1: go into a bunch of detail, but I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you to go and read Ross Dellinger's article over at
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  Speaker 1: Yahoo about the college football calendar potentially changing. It's a
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  Speaker 1: great theory, right, we still have to go through this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing where people act like school is still an
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  Speaker 1: important part of college football. And yes, college football has
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  Speaker 1: the word college in it, so you would think that
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  Speaker 1: that matters, but it apparently has not mattered. For anything else.
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  Speaker 1: They are trying to decongest the December and January calendar
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  Speaker 1: because you are running into coaching changes, recruiting, transfer portal,
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  Speaker 1: and you're still playing games all in December and then
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  Speaker 1: into January. Something's got to give at some point because
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  Speaker 1: it's too much to be able to keep up with.
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  Speaker 1: So kids don't know whether they're coming or going. You
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  Speaker 1: got to find a new home. And the coaches are
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  Speaker 1: the ones that agreed that they just wanted the transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal in January, and they seem to do this a
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  Speaker 1: lot where they have these ideas and they vote on
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  Speaker 1: them and they think it's a great idea until it
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  Speaker 1: actually happens. So there's not a lot of foresight going
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  Speaker 1: on with these coaches that are actually voting on these things.
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  Speaker 1: But it would make a lot more sense not only
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  Speaker 1: for the academic calendar, but for everything else. If let's say,
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  Speaker 1: and this is something that was brought up in the
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  Speaker 1: article with Greg Sankey and multiple others, they're talking about
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  Speaker 1: doing away with the December recruiting period and just going
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  Speaker 1: back to National Signing Day in February. So that's one
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  Speaker 1: good step, I think, But also on top of that,
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  Speaker 1: maybe moving the portal back to April, right into the semester.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have a lot to worry about there, Like
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  Speaker 1: it should be easy, right at least one would think so.
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  Speaker 1: So you move it to April, you go through spring ball. Now,
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  Speaker 1: coaches don't like this because they want to have their
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  Speaker 1: roster intact for spring. But I mean, the NFL doesn't necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: like they don't know, they don't know until the NFL
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  Speaker 1: Draft and they sometimes make deals after that and whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: Like you don't you don't need an entire summer to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get a team ready, at least I
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  Speaker 1: would assume. I mean, who knows, Like, I'm sure they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be people that'll tell me differently, and sure it'll
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  Speaker 1: help having kids like they're early, But your recruiting class
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  Speaker 1: will be the kids that early enroll and the kids
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  Speaker 1: that get there you know, in the summer and whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: those will be fine. It is what it is. That's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that's always driven me nuts, Like, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds cool that this kid is so dedicated that he
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  Speaker 1: enrolled early. Well to enroll early and get there in
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  Speaker 1: January coming out of high school, that means that you
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  Speaker 1: were giving up the last semester of your high school career,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, why, like, let the kids be kids,
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  Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? It? Just it drives me insane.
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  Speaker 1: But either way, that is what it looks like they
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  Speaker 1: want to go to. I don't know how realistic it is,
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  Speaker 1: because coaches would really like to have their team all
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  Speaker 1: together for spring, so you got spring ball and you
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  Speaker 1: got fall camp and then we go from there. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they're hoping for is, Hey, let's do a
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  Speaker 1: recruiting day in February, not in December. Let's do the
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  Speaker 1: transfer portal in April, not in January, and then you
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  Speaker 1: still got coaches being fired and whatnot at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the football season, which I don't know if that'll
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  Speaker 1: ever change, but it'd be kind of cool if they
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  Speaker 1: waited until the playoffs were done, you know, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: saying that's one thing. Can you imagine, like if one
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  Speaker 1: Miss finds a way to win this national championship and
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen does not get a ring for it, it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit hilarious because the reason it, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: not mistaken, Ole Miss said that they would match whatever
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  Speaker 1: offer LSU put out there. So if you were going
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  Speaker 1: to LSU because he felt like you had a better
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  Speaker 1: chance to win a national championship. It is kind of
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  Speaker 1: funny that ole Miss is one of the last four
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  Speaker 1: teams planned and now Pete Golden gets to reap those
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  Speaker 1: benefits instead of Lane given so well, I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 1: ole Miss is an underdog against Miami, and they will
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  Speaker 1: be an underdog against either Oregon or Indiana. But man,
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  Speaker 1: when you got to get playing like Trinidad Tambliss, that's
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  Speaker 1: something Elsese, that is something else. All right. If you
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  Speaker 1: missed the picks earlier in the week, go back watch
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  Speaker 1: the video or listen to the other podcast, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens. We'll see what happens. I'm excited about these.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good week. So but that's said,
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