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- Lucas: So we've spent the last several episodes on reps who won by asking for something concrete — a pilot, a champion, a contract extension. But today I want to flip that. What happens when the smartest ask is for a no? Luna: A no? That's a risky move. Most reps are terrified of the word. Lucas: Right, but not a hard no. I'm talking about a no for now. You ask the buyer to explicitly defer the decision to a specific date, rather than leaving it in this vague, uncomfortable limbo. And if it's done right, it can actually save the deal. Luna: That's interesting. And honestly, if today's conversation helps you turn a stalled deal into a scheduled conversation, that's worth a coffee to me. If you're a regular listener, you know we keep this show ad-free, and listener support is what keeps it that way. If today was worth a cup to you, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, and even a small contribution goes a long way. But back to the no for now. I've seen this work in a mid-market SaaS deal where the buyer just wasn't ready to commit. The rep, instead of pushing for a yes, asked for a no for now — a six-month pause with a clear review date. Luna: So they essentially scheduled the rejection. How did that not just kill the deal? Lucas: Because it changed the dynamic. The buyer was relieved — they didn't have to give a final no, and the rep got a commitment to revisit. It moved the deal from 'maybe forever' to 'maybe in six months.' And the rep could plan around it. Luna: But isn't that just a polite way of letting the buyer off the hook? You walk away with nothing but a promise to talk later. Lucas: Not exactly. The key is that you're not just accepting a postponement — you're framing it as a strategic decision. You're saying, 'Look, if now isn't the right time, I get it. But let's agree on a specific date when we'll revisit, and I'll bring you the latest data.' That converts an indefinite stall into a defined next step. Luna: So you're creating a process around the hesitation. That's clever. But how do you know when to ask for that? There's a fine line between a no for now and a brush-off. Lucas: It's all in the buyer's language. If they say, 'We're not ready yet,' with no specifics, that's a brush-off. But if they say, 'We're in the middle of a system migration, and we won't have bandwidth until Q1,' that's a real constraint. That's your opening. Luna: So you're looking for a concrete reason, not just a vibe. Lucas: Exactly. And there's a psychological layer here. When you ask for a no for now, you're taking the pressure off the buyer. That actually builds trust. They see you're not just trying to close this quarter — you're playing the long game. And that trust can pay off later, even if the deal never happens. Luna: But what if they say yes to the no for now and then go silent when the date rolls around? You're back to square one. Lucas: That's why you set the terms clearly. You agree on the date, and you also agree on what will happen at that date — you'll bring a refreshed proposal, maybe a new pricing option. You're creating a reason for them to show up. Luna: So you're basically giving them homework. 'By our next meeting, you'll have this data.' Lucas: Right. And you can also ask for a low-stakes commitment in the interim — like an introduction to a colleague who'd be part of the eventual decision. That keeps the relationship warm without pushing the main deal. Luna: I've seen that work too. I remember a deal where the buyer said, 'We love the product, but our budget cycle ends in May.' The rep asked for a no for now until June, and then sent a monthly newsletter with relevant case studies. By June, the buyer came back to them. Lucas: That's a perfect example. The no for now isn't a rejection — it's a mutual acknowledgment of timing. And it keeps you in the consideration set. Luna: But what about the risk? If you ask for a no for now and the buyer says, 'Actually, let's just make it a no,' you've lost the deal you might have kept alive by just leaving it vague. Lucas: That's the gamble. But I'd argue a vague 'maybe' isn't a deal — it's a zombie. You can't forecast it, you can't plan around it, and it's draining your energy. A no for now gives you clarity, and clarity is valuable even when it's bad news. Luna: So you're saying a clean no is actually better than a maybe that drags on. Lucas: In most cases, yes. Because a clean no lets you redirect your effort to deals that can actually close. And if it's a no for now, you've got a date to look forward to. Luna: How do you phrase the ask? It's got to be delicate. Lucas: I like something like, 'It sounds like now isn't the right time. Is that fair? If so, would you be open to revisiting this in six months? I'll bring you an updated plan.' You're acknowledging their reality and offering a path forward. Luna: That phrasing is great because it doesn't sound desperate. It's confident. Lucas: And it also gives the buyer a sense of control. They're not being pushed; they're being given an option. That's a powerful shift. Luna: What if the buyer says, 'I don't know when we'll be ready'? That's not a no for now, that's a no-maybe. Lucas: Then you dig one layer deeper. 'What would need to be true for you to be ready?' You're trying to uncover the real blocker — is it budget, is it a competing priority, is it a lack of internal buy-in? Once you know that, you can address it, even if it's not today. Luna: So the no for now is really just a gateway to understanding the buyer's true timeline. Lucas: Exactly. And I've seen reps use it to turn a stalled deal into a long-term relationship. I remember one rep who asked for a no for now with a prospect who said they were 'too busy.' The rep agreed, set a date six months out, and then sent a quarterly check-in email. After three quarters, that prospect became a customer. Luna: Three quarters is a long time to wait. But I guess if you're playing the long game, it's worth it. Lucas: And that's the mindset shift. Instead of treating every 'no' as a loss, you treat it as a data point. The no for now gives you a structured way to stay in the game without being annoying. Luna: What about the opposite problem — the buyer who uses the no for now to avoid you forever? You set a date, they agree, and then they ghost you. Lucas: That happens. But at least you tried to create a professional off-ramp. And if they ghost you, you know they weren't serious. You've lost nothing but time. Luna: Fair point. So the no for now is a win-win: for the buyer, it relieves pressure; for you, it keeps the door open. Lucas: And it also signals that you're a sophisticated negotiator. You're not just chasing the yes — you're managing the process. Luna: I can see how this could be especially powerful in complex B2B sales, where the buying committee is large and decisions take months. Lucas: Absolutely. In those cases, the no for now can align with the buyer's internal cycle. You're not fighting it; you're working with it. Luna: So, if a listener is stuck with a deal that's been sitting in 'maybe' for weeks, what's the one thing they should do? Lucas: Ask for a no for now. Frame it as a way to respect their timeline and keep the conversation going. You might be surprised how often buyers appreciate the honesty. Luna: And if they say yes, you've got a date to put in your calendar. If they say no, you've got clarity. Either way, you win. Lucas: That's the beauty of it. The no for now isn't about closing a deal today — it's about keeping the door open for tomorrow.