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When Teddi’s away, Braunwyn will play · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy mellancants at Tamra Judge,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to two Teas in a Pod. My other twat
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  Speaker 1: is on vacation right now for spring break, so I
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  Speaker 1: have standing in for her, the one and only braun
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  Speaker 1: Wyn Burke. She's my co host today. Thank you, Braunwin
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  Speaker 1: so much for being with us today with me. When
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  Speaker 1: I say I you can call me braun Wyn Wyndham too.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I don't know what last
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  Speaker 1: name I have, burke In is that your That's Sean's
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  Speaker 1: last name. We're a transitional period, so you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: go with Windom. Okay, well yeah, let's go with that.
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  Speaker 1: Your transitional situation here. Now you moved since the last
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  Speaker 1: time the viewers saw you on Housewives. Yes, so we
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  Speaker 1: are in a rental house right now, short term rental.
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  Speaker 1: We we still don't know exactly what we're doing. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we when I stopped finishing Housewives, I
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  Speaker 1: had recently come out out I was dating Chris Um.
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  Speaker 1: We were in a transitional period, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 1: do modern marriage, keep our family together, and that's been
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  Speaker 1: it's been about a year and a half since I
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  Speaker 1: came out. We've been in this house for about I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, six or seven months. We're actually looking for
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  Speaker 1: a property now, so we kind of know what we're looking.
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  Speaker 1: Let's back it up now, when you say that you
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  Speaker 1: guys are in a temporary situation. Are you going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to live together or are you going to split up? No,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna stay in the same house. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: keep the kids in the same house. Um. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I should say like hi first, like whoa, Hi,
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  Speaker 1: I know Hi. We just kind of when it got
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  Speaker 1: into it, yes, yeah, so yeah, so, um no, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to keep the kids in the same house. I
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  Speaker 1: spent half my time in New York, or about a
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  Speaker 1: third of my time in New York. I just recently
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  Speaker 1: moved in with my girlfriend there. So wait wait wait
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  Speaker 1: wait wait wait. So back up, So the viewers out there,
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  Speaker 1: listeners out there, do not know all this. So you
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  Speaker 1: have a girlfriend, you've been with her for how long?
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  Speaker 1: Six months? Okay, and you are back and forth from
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  Speaker 1: New York to Orange County. I'm assuming you and Sean
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  Speaker 1: have fifty fifty custody, so kind of a situation where
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  Speaker 1: he's with them half the time. Then you're with them
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  Speaker 1: half the time or is it just let's do what works. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So he's working really hard. He's working really hard in
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  Speaker 1: these new companies that he started to art of the
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  Speaker 1: end of the pandemic. So it's not exactly fifty fifty.
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  Speaker 1: I think once things settled down with his work, that's
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  Speaker 1: probably what we're going to end up at. He is
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  Speaker 1: working a lot, So it's about I'm here two thirds
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  Speaker 1: of the time in New York one third, um, and
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  Speaker 1: that's just because that's what's working for us as a
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  Speaker 1: family right now. So we don't have anything. There's no
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  Speaker 1: custody agreement. We haven't. We're still legally married, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're still living in the same house. Um. But we
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  Speaker 1: did need some separation. So after the show quit film,
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  Speaker 1: after I found out I wasn't being asked back, I
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  Speaker 1: took the kids to Kauai for a while. We were
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  Speaker 1: there for a couple of months. I took a reset.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Um, I had been doing a lot, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was still newly sober, newly out I was.
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  Speaker 1: I had a frenetic energy that I think everyone kind
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  Speaker 1: of noticed. Everyone that was close to me was like, girl,
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  Speaker 1: you need to take a step back. And so I
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  Speaker 1: listened to everyone and I went to Kauai Shan and
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  Speaker 1: I kind of took a pause. Um, I had the
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  Speaker 1: kids with me there. He flew out a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he didn't see them. He did five
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. UM, and we kind of just took
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  Speaker 1: a reset into what we needed and we realized we
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  Speaker 1: did needed some space and separation. So for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm here, you know, that's when he
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  Speaker 1: does his work trips, that's when he traveled, and when
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  Speaker 1: he's here, that's when I'm in New York. So you
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  Speaker 1: guys have a pretty good system. You have. It's called
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  Speaker 1: nesting um. We didn't invent the wheel on this. It's
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  Speaker 1: called nesting um. Other people have done it. I think
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  Speaker 1: Gina and her ex husband tried to do it for
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  Speaker 1: a little while when she had the casita. So it's
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  Speaker 1: it's amicable when the kids are being selected back and forth. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I had a friend that this was probably fifteen years ago,
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  Speaker 1: that did this, and I thought they were crazy, like,
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  Speaker 1: how can you do that? How can you be living
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  Speaker 1: with your ex husband to be? And then after I
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  Speaker 1: watched it happened I'm like, oh my god, that's actually
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  Speaker 1: a really good thing because the kids. Nothing changes for
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  Speaker 1: the kids, right, and that's sort of what we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to put them first. There's enough change in their life
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  Speaker 1: right now. We didn't want them to feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: split their family had been split up, Like Sean slept
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  Speaker 1: here last night. So last night we were both in
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  Speaker 1: the house together. So the kids still see that we're
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  Speaker 1: cohesive and not in the same bed, right. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: been in the same bed in tony years. Okay, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know, like we ever since. I think I was, well,
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  Speaker 1: you're in the same bed seven times, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well some of them were ivy F and oh that's right,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot only having sex in your bed. Then I
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  Speaker 1: need to teach you some new things. Okay, well I'm
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  Speaker 1: all ears um, but yeah, so I go back and
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  Speaker 1: forth to New York. Shawn's working a lot. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it's easy, don't but life is good. Right. You
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  Speaker 1: went through a year and a half of change, and
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  Speaker 1: now you feel like you're you have a system that
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  Speaker 1: works for you. Guys, right now, my question to you
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  Speaker 1: is now obviously not I know personally and I've talked
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  Speaker 1: to her. You have a girlfriend, and and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about that in a minute. But has Sean gone on
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  Speaker 1: to date anybody? And do you feel like your arrangement
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  Speaker 1: right now when he gets serious with somebody, do you
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  Speaker 1: think that arrangement is going to have to change? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, he is dating someone right now, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know where it's going to lead.
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  Speaker 1: They're not they haven't said boyfriend and girlfriend yet, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they haven't had that conversation. But yeah, he is dating
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  Speaker 1: one certain person right now, and hopefully it can it
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  Speaker 1: can work like you know, when Victoria first started dating
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  Speaker 1: me after a first date, um, which was seven days
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  Speaker 1: our first date last and seven days, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: she called Shane and they hung out on their own.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope, I hope that they can get to
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  Speaker 1: a point where, you know, they wanted to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of this family. That would be great, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I do. I've always said that I want our family
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  Speaker 1: to grow. I would really hate if either one of
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  Speaker 1: us ended up with someone that wanted to split up
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  Speaker 1: the family. But we shall see. Well, I mean, ideally,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to continue that forever he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna want to get married, You're gonna want to get married.
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  Speaker 1: You who knows what's gonna happen. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like yeah, um and that you know what.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the one thing unless you all move in,
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  Speaker 1: move together. I've seen well, you know it's funny. There's
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  Speaker 1: actually a lesbian couple I'm friends with. They have done
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  Speaker 1: it forever. One of them did get really they have
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  Speaker 1: the one house, they have the other, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you just have to get creative. That being said, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I live my life one day at a time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like there are I have to obviously for sober reasons.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big party of it. One day at a time.
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  Speaker 1: If I were to get ahead of myself all the
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  Speaker 1: things that could go wrong, I would go crazy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Like the amount of stuff that we've all had to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the last two years, none of us could
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  Speaker 1: have even expected. We all have gotten through it. So
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  Speaker 1: if I take it one day at a time, I
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  Speaker 1: can manage it. So this is what we're doing today.
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  Speaker 1: And I called you a few times, you've seen me. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not away. I'm like you had to drive me
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  Speaker 1: home one day. I was shaking so bad because drive,
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I feel like you guys are figuring
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  Speaker 1: out as you go along. How are the kids doing? Um,
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  Speaker 1: that depends on the kids. So Bella our oldest. You know,
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  Speaker 1: she hasn't met Victoria. She doesn't want to. I respect that. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Is she about at you? No? No, she just you know,
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  Speaker 1: she wants her family to She has this image of
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  Speaker 1: her family the way it used to be when she
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  Speaker 1: was growing up, and she's not ready to let that go.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm I'm okay with that. You know. I respect
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  Speaker 1: that she doesn't live at home. She's already moved out.
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  Speaker 1: The older two girls have moved out. Um, Rowan is great.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Rowan is a free spirit. Rowan's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like you do you. She loves Victoria. They get along great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen pictures together. Now I want to I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about Roman later on when we recap New
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  Speaker 1: Jersey because there's a lot of talk about Jackie's eating disorder,
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  Speaker 1: and I know that you first had him gone through
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  Speaker 1: it with Rowan, So we'll talk about that a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later on. But UM, I'm glad that the kids
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  Speaker 1: are all good. You have five at home. Yes, Jacob
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  Speaker 1: Jacobs Jr. And then we have the four little ones,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, and it's it's good, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: it's good. I mean, like for people out there that
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  Speaker 1: are judging you and Sean for how you're living your life,
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  Speaker 1: what do you have to say about that? Because it's
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  Speaker 1: not traditional by any means, But it's also like it's
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  Speaker 1: a new, modern day way of living and this is
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  Speaker 1: not a normal nowadays at all. And for people that
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  Speaker 1: are in a marriage and they know that they're not
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  Speaker 1: happy and maybe they're attracted to the same sex, but
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  Speaker 1: they're afraid to tell their partner. Um, I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on that as well. I know that's
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  Speaker 1: a two part question, but you know it's it's something
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  Speaker 1: that people will judge you on all the time. And
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  Speaker 1: I tell people all the time. I said, listen, Bronwyn
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  Speaker 1: does not have a mean bone in her body. Not.
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  Speaker 1: That's the one thing I love about you. Like you
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  Speaker 1: might not agree, people might not agree with your lifestyle,
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  Speaker 1: but you are a sweet person. Like even with this
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  Speaker 1: no Noela things that are going on between you two,
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  Speaker 1: Like I know a lot You've told me a lot
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  Speaker 1: and she's said a lot about you. But You've never
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  Speaker 1: said anything negative to me, even as your friend. You've
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  Speaker 1: never said anything negative about Noella. And I come in
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  Speaker 1: you for that because I know if you're talking crap
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  Speaker 1: about one of your friends, you're probably talking crap about
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  Speaker 1: me too, you know what I mean, And you're not
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  Speaker 1: that person. Now. I have a big heart, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I I love unconditionally. I'm probably naive and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things. I tell you what I've done and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, girl, you're so dumb, you know, But
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  Speaker 1: that's just like how I am. I believe the best
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  Speaker 1: in people. I see the best in people, even when
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  Speaker 1: I get hurt um and so I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. If you're judging us one, I would remind
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  Speaker 1: you that a lot of what you know about me
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  Speaker 1: and my parenting you got second hand from other people.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really get to show tell my story. Most
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  Speaker 1: of my really great scenes and my kids were cut out,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of things. I'm never with my children,
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  Speaker 1: and I have all my nanny's that's not true, that's
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  Speaker 1: not really you know, Like I went home right now,
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  Speaker 1: I have two kids downstairs watching a movie because they're sick.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't I have one nanny three afternoons
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  Speaker 1: a week. That's it for the after school activities where
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  Speaker 1: I have to beat two places at once. So keep
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  Speaker 1: in mind, a lot of the information we received was
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  Speaker 1: from people that didn't have good intentions. You know, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I think, like you know that as a mother, Like,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, both of us are
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  Speaker 1: such great moms. I think that's the saddest part. The
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  Speaker 1: saddest thing that came out of the show was when
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  Speaker 1: people trying to pick me as a bad mom, because
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  Speaker 1: that's the one thing that's always been so close to
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  Speaker 1: my heart, Like, you know, that's something like we get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of scions about Like I've put out that
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  Speaker 1: post on Instagram and I got a lot of feedback
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  Speaker 1: like does she spend time with her kids? And I
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  Speaker 1: like every time I see that, I want to just
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  Speaker 1: like it makes me so angry because you know, I
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  Speaker 1: went through a bad breakup, divorce, custody battle and I
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  Speaker 1: still to this day. Oh do you talk to your kids? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I do every single day. You know, people want to
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  Speaker 1: judge you on what they heard or what you're accused of,
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  Speaker 1: and it's to me when it comes to kids, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, it's off limits, and it's prest training. It
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  Speaker 1: is aesting. I'm like I said, I'm with the kids
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  Speaker 1: about two thirds of the time, Sean one third. He's
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  Speaker 1: never gotten one d M. Why aren't you with your children?
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  Speaker 1: I know, isn't it crazy? It's such a crazy double standard.
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  Speaker 1: I probably don't host as much when I'm at home
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  Speaker 1: with the kids because honestly, I'm not doing anything like
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to school, I'm doing drop off. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in a messy bead working out at home. When I'm home,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going out. I'm home with the kids. When
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  Speaker 1: I go out, it to New York, and I'm also
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  Speaker 1: working in New York. And I think that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of flap with Sean, which is
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  Speaker 1: she's only with him for the money, and although after
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven years together, obviously I'm entitled to half like
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  Speaker 1: that's a no brainer. But you know, as Jennifer says
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  Speaker 1: on New Jersey, I get half naw right. I love her.
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  Speaker 1: I love her like I am trying to work now,
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  Speaker 1: like I actually am putting my you know, I've never
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  Speaker 1: had a job before housewife. That was my first job. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, had a job you've had seven kids. I've
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  Speaker 1: never had a job that made money, and so I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of skills. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a college degree. I dropped out of college to
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  Speaker 1: have Bella. So I'm trying to do what I can
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  Speaker 1: and I'm actually I'm actually hustling and doing you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm speaking, Um, I'm doing public speaking on sobriety, which
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  Speaker 1: has been amazing. I'm traveled across the country, you know,
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  Speaker 1: speaking to different recovery groups. I'm working with Glad. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited to get to do that. Victoria is one
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  Speaker 1: of the sponsors of in y c D Prize, so
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  Speaker 1: I get to you know, help her and do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm writing this book. But you know, like I've been
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  Speaker 1: doing things, I've just been doing them quietly, and just
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  Speaker 1: I do want to say, like to anyone with the
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  Speaker 1: mom stuff, just because I'm not posting that I'm at home,
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  Speaker 1: odds are right because I haven't made that day and
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to write. I personally don't post about
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  Speaker 1: my children. It's just not it's just something that you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're Sophia sixteen since one, like, they didn't sign up
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  Speaker 1: for a public life, so it just doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: They don't, you know, they're at that age we're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, mom, don't post that. You can't post that.
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  Speaker 1: So I just don't. It just makes it easier because
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  Speaker 1: there's so many trolls out there that say horrible things
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  Speaker 1: about your kids, Like you know, I'm like, are you
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  Speaker 1: kidding me? Right now? You're gonna tell me my daughter
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  Speaker 1: needs a nose job and she's fourteen years old, Like,
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  Speaker 1: you're an asshole. That's horrible and it's true, and so
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't display it to you, but like
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  Speaker 1: I think the most most of us are incredible moms,
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  Speaker 1: and just give us the benefit of the doubt. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're the best we can. That's what we're doing, and
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out life at the same time. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I have a question before going on the show, did
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  Speaker 1: you feel that there was any struggle to find your
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  Speaker 1: identity prior to that? Is this something you've always struggled
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  Speaker 1: with Because I met you and I knew five minutes
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  Speaker 1: into meeting you that you were a lesbian. I totally knew.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there was something about that, oh, the flirtatious
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  Speaker 1: drunk kiss. But then it's like oh no, you got serious,
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  Speaker 1: Like you nailed me down on the banquet area and
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  Speaker 1: and you were like, okay, this is happening, and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she means business. No, there's no reason to be sorry
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  Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I'm flattered that you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make out and you were really hot. Oh god, Okay, okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you know me, I'm a kissing girl. When
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  Speaker 1: I drank, I love to kiss my friends. But when
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to it, you know, I like the
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  Speaker 1: wiener right. Um. You know, I always knew I was
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  Speaker 1: by and I always hooked up women. I really enjoyed it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and Sean embraced that. Yeah. Times like and even honestly
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  Speaker 1: we did have like I almost she was like a
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend that we had in our family for a little while,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one particular woman that was in our life,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that that was kind of like the
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  Speaker 1: three of us were dating. I would say a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the time Sean would tap out and be like,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't for me. But you know, that was always
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  Speaker 1: a part of my life. I never saw myself in
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  Speaker 1: a committed relationship with a woman. With a woman, it
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: was just fun. I think for me, like sexually. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: was so attracted to them, but I'd kind of been
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: like every one of our generation, we were kind of
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: brought up in this headeral, normal narrative. One of them
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: being straight was it was the only way to go.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: And So I wanted a house. I wanted the kids.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted the country, you know, I wanted that white
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: picket fenced dream. You wanted the life you didn't have
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: growing up because you're going to med school and I didn't.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: We weren't shown that you could have that if you're
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: with another woman. We didn't have that, as you know,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: that representation when we were growing up. So I wanted
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the house and one of the kids. And I really
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: just thought, and this is gonna sound horrible, but I
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: thought there was a part of me that was broken
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: from my childhood that like I couldn't love Sean the
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: way that like I read about in books. I loved
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: my children completely, I loved them all my heart, but
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I just thought, well, you know, I have issues maybe
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: from my childhood. It honestly wasn't until I met Victoria.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: So Victoria, for people that don't know, Victoria is your girlfriend.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: And it's ironic that it's Victoria because you know, that's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Vicky Gumblesome's real name, Victoria. I know. I mean that
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: is very interesting. You actually said the first time, You're like, oh,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: you're with another Vickie. She goes by Vic. Yeah. I
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: didn't put that together till now, but thank you. I
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: can never unhear that. Well. Vicky's name is Victoria, So
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that is pretty funny. So can you tell us anything
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: about your new girlfriend? Are you because you you just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: started kind of posting pictures and it's been about six
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: months or so, so are you now feel comfortable being
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: open about it? Is there anything you can tell us
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: about her? I mean, she's she's amazing. Um, she feels
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: like home. I just like, I adore her. Our first
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: date we met through mutual friends in New York. They
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: set us up. We kind of talked. Our first date
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: lasted seven days. Oh my gosh. She didn't go home
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, I I've never been able to sleep
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: with people like I've always had really bad night team anxiety,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and that our first night together, She's like, I'm gonna
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: stay here tonight and I was like okay, and it
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: just it just took up from there. You know. Our
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: second date was Puerto Rico. Then we went back to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: me like we just had this whirlwind romance and it's
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: been magical. She's she's a model. She works from Muse
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Model Management. Um, she's a big influencer. She's very big.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: She's got a big following on Instagram. And I saw that.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And she she's a dancer too, write like she she's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a classically trained dancer. She grew up in Miami. She's
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: from Brazil. We grew up in Miami. She's from Brazil. Yeah, okay,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you those Brazilian girls are crazy. So
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: what is your type? Tell us your type? Victoria is
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: my type? Like if I if I put handpick. When
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I first saw her photos when they sent them to me,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, why would a girl that
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: looks like this ever want to date me? No? You
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: did not, I you thought I did. I mean she
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: is hot as f and like I'm married. I'm still
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: married with seven kids. Come on, um, how does she
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: feel about that having seven kids? I know she's met
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: some of your kids to all of them, how do
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you think you have a long term with her? Like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is this going to be a long term commitment or
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: you're still trying to figure it out. I think it
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: will be oh good. Like I said, we just moved
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: in together. Um, I think I think it's gonna be
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: for a while. You know she do you think that
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: she's going to get annoyed or upset with your you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: co parenting in the same house with Sean. No. She
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: works a lot for her own job. She travels a
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: lot for modeling into other countries and stuff. So she's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: good with the cross country relationship. She's good with the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: fact that when we're together, we really are together. We
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: tune out the whole world. It's just the two of us. Um.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: She loves Sean. You know, her and Sean get along great. Um.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, she spent time with my kids and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's it's cool. You know, her
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and Kayden love each other. They have a special bond.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Hazel loves to face time her the four year old.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's do your young kids understand what's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: going on? Yes, oh they do. They didn't in the beginning,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: but now they do. I think now that it becomes
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: such like a vocal advocate for the LGBTQ community. Now
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it's more important for the understand why you know. Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: now she's met your mom, yes, and your dad. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: first of all, how's your mom doing great? She was
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: just an Arctica with a bunch of like she literally
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: had the most amazing trip of her life. So she's amazing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: She's doing She's doing great then, and she is supportive
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of what you're going through and what you're doing in life.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And she loves vic. Yes, she loves Sean. She loves Vick. Actually,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: when I came out to her, she's like, that makes
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: so much more sense. Now do you see yourself getting
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: married again? Yeah? You do? Yeah? Can I be your bridesmaid? Yeah? Yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Victorian might be checking you out. Oh my gosh. So
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I just started following her, I know. Yeah, she sent
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: me like an emoji like star eyes, like, oh my god.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: She's super sweet. You know, we've faced time and talked
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and she is really a sweet, sweet sweet girl. Love
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: her a lot. Um. Now I have a question now,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: after being on a Brava for two years, I felt
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: like leaving getting on. Let's just say what it is,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: getting fired. You really handled it well, you really did.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Like you just moved on. You don't talk about it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You um, you stay on course and what's going on
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: in your life, and it's just like, okay, that was,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you know, a fun experience. Do you have good memories
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: of being on the Housewives or was it one of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: those things like, oh my god, what did I do?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I definitely have good memories because it's giving me this
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: amazing platform. So I think when I walked away one
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: for like for protecting my own self, I thought, I'm
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: going to take a step away. It was very hard
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to see two of my friends cast, and keep in mind,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: when Noel was cast, we were I thought best friends. Yes,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you know, so to see you know that was hard
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and so I said, I'm just gonna take a break.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And then the longer of a break I took, I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: got off Instagram completely. Um. I had my person that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: helps with social media just kind of take over for
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a while. I was like, I'm gonna Hawaii. I'm completely
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: tuning out. And I think that was you were sad.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You were saying, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: about it. You were sad. Yeah. I mean I came
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to your house. I was, yes, I didn't know, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: this is so and like, I wish I could go
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: back and tell me. I thought that that was the end,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like I've done everything, that was the end, Like there
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: was nothing left for me. I didn't realize that this
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was just the beginning. Yeah. I mean, once you're on
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a platform, especially like Housewives, and that's why I'm forever
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: grateful for being on that, so many other opportunities come
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: your way, and you know, it's it's up to you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of the opportunities that really means something
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: or will take you to the next level, and not
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: just every opportunity that comes your way, because there's a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: lot of things. You're like, if I do that, I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: gonna look really desperate, you know, And it's I mean
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that's like, did I love everyone I worked with? No? No,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: But that's the whole Yeah. Now saying that, would you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: if they offered you to do the Ultimate Girls trip um,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: would you do it? Oh? That would be fun. It
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: was actually a lot of fun because it's like you're
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: in and out. It's a few it's like a quick
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: two weeks or something. Yeah, So it doesn't take over
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: your whole because we've talked about how when you're filming
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it takes over like your whole life. Well, I don't
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: think people really truly understand how time consuming it is.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So you film four months out of the year, but
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: within that four months, you are constantly being um beat up,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: talked badly about, conversation side conversations with whoever your bestie
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: is on the show. There's a lot of fighting, there's
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of stress, and then you go into press
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and then it's like then things get really heated because
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you start speaking your mind and then other cast members
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: get mad at you, and then it becomes a fight.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And then you go to air, and then that's a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: whole another like it is a ship show, and it
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: takes a toll in your mental health. I found I
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't as present. You're not you're not as present with
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: your children. Yeah, like with Sean my kids, I would
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: be sitting there and I would be, you know, like
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and what if she does this? And then what if
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: she does this? And like it consumed me. And that
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: was because if you're not taught, if you're not dealing
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: with what's going on at that moment, you have another
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: cast member that's calling you and you're concerned with that,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and then you have a producer calling you, like trying
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to talk to talk you off the Cliff. So there's
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: so many things that are going on, so many moving
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: parts to it, and then you know, like I didn't
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: even realize it, and now Sophia is like, oh my god, Mom,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's so nice to have of you, like you're here,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you're present all the time, and so girls trip great
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: in and out. It's a it's a it's literally a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: ten day commitment and that's so much fun. And you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: get that little endorphin rush, you know, because I do
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: miss the cameras, like I miss feeling. I liked getting
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: dressed up. I enjoyed that, you know, I'd like filming.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't like all the other I do hope that
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: what I'm working on it comes to fruition because it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it's not exhausting, you know, it's uplifting, yes, and like
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that that and like I feel like and I'm just
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: gonna say this, and I hope I just take this
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: with what it's meant. I know that a lot of
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: times people say, oh, Tamer's is a pot or ship talker,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and I just have to say that I have told
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you everything about my life. You literally know every single thing,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and you have never said every one word, not ever,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: ever and you. This thing I love about you is
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: someone says it on camera, Okay, it's fair game, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: game if you tell me off camera different story. You
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: have kept secrets that that most people probably wouldn't and
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that's one of the things that like I wish people
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: knew about you is I have told you everything. You
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: even know things like right now that I'm keeping close
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to the best, like you everything, and you're like, these
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: aren't my stories to tell. And you're one of the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: first people I call, like when I'm having a really
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: hard time because I know you've been through every single
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: thing that I have been through, and you are so
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: helpful and you're always there to pick up the phone,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: always well, thank you. That gives me goose bumps and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and really warms my heart. You know, they're stirring the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: pot on the show is definitely an art form, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: we're going to get into them as we recap Orange County.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But before we start to recap Orange County, I want
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: to ask you a question. Noella was one of your
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: really good friends. I want to say your best friend.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I met Noella through you. We went out to dinner,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: we you know, we went for drinks. She was very sweet,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: very nice. Actually sent me a bouquet of flowers the
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: next day, just saying, you know, it was great to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: meet you. I thought, oh my god, this girl is great.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: What the hell happened? Like you were best friends, you
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: were together all the time, and then she got on
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: my show and then my social mate. I mean I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: truly believed she was my soul mate. So first I
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: want to say, because a lot of people say she
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: used me to get on the show, that absolutely is
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: not true. We were introduced through Thomas. Thomas is the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: executive producer of Housewives, which, um he's amazing, love him. So,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like she she like finagled her way
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: into my life. No, we were like, hey, I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you two are going to get along. I would love
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: for you to call her, so I did. So there
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: was no using me to get on the show. Like okay,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: So to me, let's back that up. Um, they encourage
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you to call her to talk to her, So that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: just means like they kind of thought maybe she was
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: going to be on the show, Like they kind of
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: thought like she would be a good housewife, so let's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: bring her in. Yes, but you always took it way
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: beyond that. You were way waiting on that. So my
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: first lunch with her, I was like, oh my god,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I love this girl. She's so open. She's like me
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: on crack, you know, like like anything any crazy thing
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I've done, she's done more. But the thing that I
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: love about her is she owns all of it. She
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: owns it all, um, And she was able to keep
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: in mind this was doing quarantine. She was able to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: live in this beautiful world of her own existence, and
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: she brought me into it. You know, she created this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: fantasy life for us when I was at a really,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: really low point. And I will always have so much
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: love for her that Like when I when I see
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: what I was on the floor, I was so depressed, Um,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: after all that stuff went down with Shannon, Like I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: was devastated. I couldn't move, I couldn't move. She literally
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: carried me onto her plane and took me to pric
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and nursed me back to health, like mental health.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: She did that. And that's love, you know that that's
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a side that's kind of a side of Noella that
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: we don't get to see too much on the show.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: And I always say, like, on these shows, they're going
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to show your strongest part of your personality. So if
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: your strongest part of personality is talking, shift and that's
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like, that's all you do. But
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I think if she had had a friend. I think
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: if she had had one friend, you would have seen
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the softer side of her. That being said when she
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: was cast and I wasn't our our friendship. It just
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: went away. And I've heard from other cast members what
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: she said has happened. That's not true. You know. I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: think I've reached out to you and Katrina to like
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: send her an email. She wouldn't text me back. I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: was I was like, I don't know what happened. She
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: so let's just take it back. So she got the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: part of a housewife. You got fired? Did it just
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: cut off right? There? Was there a fight? Did you
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: do something to her? Did what happen? It doesn't make
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: any sense to me. But she was my first phone call.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: She was I'm nuts that I called her before I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: called anyone else. I send her a text message. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so happy for you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: You deserve all the beautiful things in life. I just
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: need to take a break right now because it's hurts
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, it's painful. I mean, right now, I'm
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. Right now, I have two
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: friends have been been contacted by casting to be on
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the show, and they're calling me. They're like, I filmed
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: with you like three years ago. Why are they calling
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: me now? And I said, I don't know, but you
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: know what it it kind of hurts. It's like, okay,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: like I want my friends been, you know, have fun
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and be successful and do all that. But it's like, really,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna call my friends. I haven't even heard from you,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and it does. It hurts. And I think I sent
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you the text messages between us where I was like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: literally begging for her to call me back. What was
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: going on? You know, I wish your son happy birthday.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: At one point I was like, Okay, this is gonna
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: be my last text because now I'm enduring stalker territory. Um.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I said it kind of jokingly, but she ended up
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: breaking up with me for lack of a better word.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And I do want to make it very clear we
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: were never romantically involved. I've seen rumors like that. Okay,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I was wondering. I was actually wondering about that because
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: she has said she's bisexual. Yeah, no, and she is,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: but we were just she was like a sister. Um.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And then she ended up standing Sean an email saying
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: that I had done some hurtful things or whatever, and
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Seano back it says, Ronan hasn't done anything, like, she
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: hasn't gone out of met she's You're not a hurtful person,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and you don't go after people. You don't. You don't
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: call people out, you don't. You are you have a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: heart occold. So for me, like I couldn't understand, like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: what did you do? She made it sound like you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: did something horrible to her. Do you know to this
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: day what it couldn't know? I don't. My best guest
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: is because I feel like I do know her, is
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that maybe someone we trusted said something to distance her
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: from me so she would be more. Um. So you're
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: saying a producer said something. I don't know. I don't know.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: This is literally just me throwing stuff out there, because
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that's the only thing that would make sense given how
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: close we were, because I also know her, and I
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: don't think she would have done that if she didn't
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: believe something happened. I do believe that. I know you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: haven't watched all the episodes of Orange County, but what
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you have seen, how do you feel like she's being portrayed,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: or how she's acting, or what are your thoughts on her?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I actually have only watched the one from last night,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: because you told me too, because you have to. I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: haven't watched any of them because I don't enjoy it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I find it it makes me sad. I took a
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: year off too. Yeah, like I didn't watch last season
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and it's not like, oh it's sad and I'm not
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: gonna watch it. No, I don't want it because it
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: hurts my feelings. So how did watching last night's episode?
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: How did you feel about her? I will say, and
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I've also heard stuff. I will say this. I think
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it's very hard for so one like Noella, who was
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: very open, very outgoing, very embracing all aspects of life,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to be on a show with such conservative people. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: don't know how they thought that was going to work.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Um without her having an ally. I think if she
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: had one person on that show that had her back,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: you would see the part of her that I got
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to see. Like, do you feel like she's she's like
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a mean person, or she's a misunderstood person, or I mean,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I think we were so close, we were I think
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: she I mean, I think she's human, so I think
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: she can have meanness in or just like we all can.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I think when I think in her very core,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: she is a little girl that wants to be left,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: just like most of us. Well, I will tell you
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that it kind of her. Yeah, it kind of broke
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: my heart when her father passed away and I actually
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: reached out to her. Now, just remember I was on
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Life last month and I said, you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I called her the village idiot because I just felt
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: like she was doing things to do things, and I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: just I don't like that. So I called her the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: village idiot. And she was on a few weeks later
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and she had the best comeback and she said, that's
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: funny coming from the most iconic village idiot, which made
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: me laugh, Like I don't I have really big skin.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So when her dad passed away, I sent her a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: d M and I said, I just want to say
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I'm really sorry about your dad's passing, and I apologize
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: for calling you and you know, the village idiot Um,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and by the way, I loved your comeback and she
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: was very sweet. She came back to me and she
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: was very sweet about what she said. And she's like,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you know what she goes. You know, I'm not stupid.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a logical person, and you know, she was just
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: kind and I got like, thank you for being kind
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and and that was it. I'm not saying we have
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: some big romance or friendship going on, but you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: when somebody's father dies, that's sad to me. It is
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it is. I wrote to her when he passed away
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: to We have talked a few times since then. Um.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I think I think she's just like a lot of us.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: But you know, she has that little girl in her
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that wants to be loved. I know her family history.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I think she wants to be love I
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: think the stuff with James really shook her. Yeah. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: feel like you and James are really good friends still
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: to this day. We are. And I tried to get
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: James on the podcast that you know, he's very He's like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: well he was a hell no, He's like, you listen,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm just it's it's very personal. I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to put it out there like he's very private. Well,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: he's an attorney, so let's just call it what it is.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: He's smart, he's keeping himself quiet, letting her say whatever
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: she wants to say, and then you know in court
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: that's all going to be used against her. I think
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: for him, And you know, because Sean and I have
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: stayed friends with James, Um we both are. We've both
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: gone to visit him in Puerto Rico. UM I will
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: say that he really does love his son. Um Noela
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: let their old nanny go, the one that had raised
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Junior when he was a baby. He hired her. She's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, just eighteen. Like he didn't walk away
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: from his kid. You know, he is working to get custody.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: He wants to co parent. I think that they're going
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to get to a place where they do what's best
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: for Junior. I really do. I think it's like she
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: did the same thing with Coco. I think she'll get there. Wait,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Coco is her daughter daughter with her. They never got married,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: but like her first long term right. We don't hear
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: about Coco ever on the show. I know her dad
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't want her filming. Um does she live with her dad?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Or she lived with Dallas. She lives with her dad. Um,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: she lives with her dad. So she's a sweet girls.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Same ages CoA. They used to be like the best
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of friends like that was that was heart breaking too, Okay,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: So do you feel like you guys can ever reconcile
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: become friends again. I do, It's going to happen. I think,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone has a certain amount of time on
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the show, whether it's like me two years, like you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: two decades. You know, we all have a time on
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: this show. And I do think when the show is over,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm I miss her her, like there will
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: be time. And I told you this too, like I've
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: told you, like things will happen in my life that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: are so crazy and there's no one else I can
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: talk to, because she was the only person that fully
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: understood the crazy and embraced it and loved me for it,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Like the things that her and James would just be like, Okay,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we're all well with it. It's very rare in life
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: that you meet people like that, you know, and like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I love I love Noel's new boyfriend, Like he's a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: great guy. I've heard great things about him. I have
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: people friends that know him and just said he's like,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: he's a great he's a great guy. I think he's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: really good for her because he's like solid and grounding. Um,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you know, James has a new girlfriend that's amazing. She's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: very sweet too, So I think they're both like in
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: really good places. And I think when you're happy, it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: easier to go through all the other stuff. So I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: hopeful for all of them. I'm hopeful for everyone. Well,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I hope that you guys can get it back together.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: And you guys, let's let's do a deep dive into
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Orange County. Um, let's go on a break first, and
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna recap what went down in Aspen.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. So let's get into last night's episode. Um,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the girls are in Aspen, and I mean, do you
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: agree with me? Going on the trips was the most
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: fun ever? No, I don't agree with you. You don't
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: agree with me. Oh my gosh, what I can't even
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: remember what trips would we go on when we were
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: on the shop. No, I didn't have fun on one
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of those trips. I kind of felt like Marravall was fun.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, because I never got I never
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: had friends. Everyone hated me, like you fun. So so
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're in Aspen. We're getting to know I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: feel like, finally episode I don't even know what it is,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: twelve thirteen fourteen, we're finally getting to know Jen, which
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you know Jen, I feel like she's another one of
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: your friends that they brought on yes the show and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: they're they're playing a little game like what was your
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: in you know, what's embarrassing to you or something like that,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and Jen says that she has been engaged seven times.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Seven freaking times. That's a lot. And I'm like, oh, okay,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: it's like the what's the Jersey housewife? The one that
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: was engaged all those times? Was it Danielle? Yes, thank you,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: She's like daniel stab of Orange Kenny, do what your thought?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Jenn Armstrong? I mean I know her,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I know her personally, so like Jen is a very
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: hard worker. She's so smart. Like sometimes when Jen's talking
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, mm hmm, you're a scientist. Yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm confused with Jen um. I found her
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to be extremely boring on the Girl's Trip and if
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: when you're born on a girl's trip. You're done. I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: think of her, keeping in mind she's a doctor. She's
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you know, has a very successful practice. She's the primary
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: breadwinner and her family, you know, so she can't get
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: drunk and it doesn't make her good TV. Yes, you know,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: which is true, and that's the truth. The thing is,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: she's a good doctor and pains me to see all
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: this BS is being written about her because none of
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it's true. She's a great doctor. Okay, I mean there's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. There's a lot there's a lot
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of lawsuits, there's a lot of things going on. Um
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: my really good girlfriend, Pam lives right next door to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to Jen and Wren Ryan whatever his name is, and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll just leave it at that. But I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: mean he has been a few times. I don't think
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: we've ever had a conversation. So I don't think it's
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just him on the show where he's like that. I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: generally think he's just over people. Yeah, like he's he
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to fel he doesn't want to. He just
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: think he just doesn't like to really talk to people
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in general, because he's the exact same way when you
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: just hang out at my house, he would like go
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on his phone and watch sports. Yeah, not the most
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: interesting housewife they've cast it. I'm going to throw that
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: out there. I think she's beautiful, I think she's smart,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: but sometimes it doesn't cut it. So and Noela accuse
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: heathera pushing the camera. I I don't know, maybe it
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: was a producer or a camera guy whatever into the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: wall at her party. Your thoughts, Like, I know Heather,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I've known her for years. She's not a violent person
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: by any means. So I'm like, is Noela just lying?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I would guess the truth is somewhere in the middle. Now,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Noel said she heard she heard this from someone, so
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I can think a yes, or she heard it from
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: given that party in the night. So I think sometimes
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: when you hear stuff, it gets exaggerated. I would guess
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: something happened. I doubt how they would do something illegal.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I personally don't see how the physically pushing shoving anybody
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: into a wall. But is Noela the type that's gonna
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: pull something like this right out of her ass? Down?
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe me Terry got upset and pushed the camera guy
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in the camera down or no, Like there's things I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: can see you do, like I mean I've yeah, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: mean a lot went down on this side on the floor.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: But that's about all I've ever done. Now, I've thrown in,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I've dropped in the toyle that I've done a lot
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: throughout my twelve years. So um, this entire episode was
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: a little frustrating to me, a little annoying. There was
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of ship that went on that I'm like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: are you are we seriously watching this right now? It
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: was exhausting. It was exhausting, and not even in a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: good way. I don't think. Um, no, Emily, Okay, let's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: talk Emily, because we worked together with Emily. Emily has
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: definitely come out of her shell. But she is now
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the ship stir. She is labeled the ship Stir, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you know, and it takes a true talent to be
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: able to move a storyline. Not many housewives capable of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: doing that. I felt like I was one that was
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: very capable of doing that, and you do it in
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: such a way that it's not so obvious. And I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: appreciate what Emily is trying to do, but she's basically
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: coming off looking like a boat stapper. I mean, I
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: don't have fun memories of Emily she I don't like her.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I just so you know, the entire season, she's a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: totally different person. And it's kind of like when somebody's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: told listen, you're not that interesting. If you don't, you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you don't start performing, you're gonna get fired. And I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: feel like she went into this season going, Okay, I'm
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: gonna stir the pot, I'm gonna do this, but it's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: getting to the point where it's exhausting, like she can't
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: even let like she's got to talk all the time,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Like getting out of the Van Mova John is wet.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, really, I don't really want to think
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: about your Manjina right now. And she says things that
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: she thinks are going to be good TV, and it's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: kind of getting annoying. And I've always feel like she
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: tries to tear people down to kind of bring them unhappiness,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to like I tried with that girl. I did. I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: tried so hard, and then I don't. I feel like
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have real friendships in her life, you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Like no, she hangs out with a lot of people
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: that have been trying to get on the show forever,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and she was definitely part of them and end up
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, I'm just absolutely shocked that she's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: now in season four. Me too. But I mean, but
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, I will take this Emily over
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: what we filmed with, you know, years ago. Yeah, I
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: think she's interested at all that she's gonna get called
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: out for. Like in the episode, she says something not
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: too nice about me, and you know, the whole thing was,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I've gone through some stuff last year. I was generally
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: worried about Shannon and I off camera voice some things
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I had heard that I was concerned about. I didn't
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: off camera on purpose because I didn't want to be
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: So let's take that back. She basically called you a name. Yeah,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: she called you a name, and I can't remember exactly
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: what it was, something about all of asshole you are
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, And I'm like, wait, really, did
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you really? Really you just say that, because that is
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: so out of line, Like you actually took somebody aside
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: off camera and said, listen, I just heard this. I'm
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: kind of concerned. Yeah, when she took it and ran
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: with it and she put it on camera, and like,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a big believer like you, if it's said on camera,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: then it's fair game. But if you say it off camera,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: because they had bonded and I, Shannon, I weren't that
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: close at the time, and they had bonded, and I
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: was genuinely concerned. I didn't know what to do. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: had talked to the production. I had talked to production,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: and I was like, these are my concerns, Like, yeah,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: we kind of have the same ones too, So I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: knew that I wasn't out of line and being worried
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: because I'm a caregiver. I do care about people, even
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: if we're not getting along. I care about you. So
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I said it to her after we had stopped filming,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: after the cameras had shut down purposefully so it wouldn't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: be on camera, and then she brought it and it
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: was like that wasn't cool, And then it became a thing,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and I did feel I did feel bad for that, um,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you know, but like for her to even bring me up.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: It's been over a year now, you know, I'm obviously
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: in a different place, Like the majority of my life
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: right now is dedicated to helping people get sober and like,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: but what she said about it was so rude, Like
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: it was just rude. It was uncalled for when she
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: called me Lucifer last season. I heard, so, I don't know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I don't get see the TV show He's hot, Yeah,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: you know. And Emily says, I don't talk about things
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I don't see with my own eyes, and I almost
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: fell off the couch when she said that, because that's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: all she does is talk about things. That's all she does.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: She literally has made herself to the person that no
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: housewife can trust because you're sitting in a conversation with her,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: She's gonna go blab it to somebody else. I have
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a feeling by the time people listen to this, there
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: will already be like twenty fan sites that have gone
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and shown all the other things she's done, like, oh,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: there's what I start doing that right now. Yeah, And
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I would have to say, um, I feel bad for
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Shannon in this episode. You know, Shannon and I are
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: not on great terms, and I literally feel like, no
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: matter what she does, the other girls come after her.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: They want to attack her, they want to bring her down.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: When I say other girls I'm talking to Emily, Gina
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: and Heather constantly wanted to bring her down. Um. You know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Shannon says at her part like at her party. Let's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: act like we're having fun. Let's act like we're having fun.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: And Heather says to Gina whether in New York walking
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the streets drunk, would you rather be with me or
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: be with them? How is that any different? But yet
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Shannon gets attacked for saying that. I'm like, wait, Heather,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you're the one that just said, like, you know, would
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: you rather be with me? Yeah? Of course you'd rather
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: be with me. You know, It's like it was such
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a stupid when housewife, what I'm getting out of the house.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I've start to fight about something so stupid as a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: chair you took my chair or you said this. It's
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: bad TV. It's bad TV. It's like small house bad TV.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Um it is it's bad. Um. I think you know.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: The one thing I will say about Shannon, which we
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: both know, is she's a single mom. She's raising three girls.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: She's trying to start companies and working her ass off
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: like she she gets you know, she said it in
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: this episode, I'm trying to do my best, you know.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And then she's doing all this, she's trying to you know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: hold down the household, take care of her kids, put
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: her kids through college, and start her business and she's
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: being attacked by I mean, she this girl cannot do
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: anything right without being attacked. So I think, I mean, honestly,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: just like Emily and Gina could just give a little
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: bit of grace, it would be they can't. Like I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: remember the beginning of the season, Gina says mean about me,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: like my poor children, and I'm like, my poor children,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: they're doing great. You know, they have two parents that
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: love them. What do you They go to a great school,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: they have Siblians that come and visit. Like I know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like she said things that she's about and
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: medical care and they're you know, not like what what
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: they live in Newport Coast. There's no poor children here?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Like they're privileged kids. Yeah, like they get to go
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to taekwondo and dance class, like gymnastics. What if there's
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: no poor kids here? You mean because their mom goes
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: away ten days of the month. Yeah, I don't know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I I literally felt bad for Shannon this episode. I
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: feel like, no matter what she does, they're gonna beat
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: her down. I have a question for you because you
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: and Shannon went do something very similar to putting well
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: and I went through. Do you think you and Shannon
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: can ever be friends again? I think we can. I
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: think that most of all, Like I haven't felt this
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: way and being and I've been very vocal about it,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and maybe I haven't always been. Um, I don't know.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe I bashed her too much in the press, just
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: saying how I felt, but it was really came from
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: a place of pain, Like I really felt like we
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: were really good friends, really really really good friends. But
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I also knew that
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Shannon is. Being in a friendship with Shannon is kind
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: of one side. She's never going to ask you, how
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: are you doing, how is your day? How is your husband?
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: How are your kids? She just just doesn't enter her mind.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm the opposite, like I'm like, how are the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: kids doing? And what are you up to? Like what's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: going on? Like if you need to talk to me
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, I will pick up
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the phone and talk to you. Where she she thinks
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: about Shannon first, And so I knew that. I've always
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: known that. But then when I you know, I don't.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not a person. I'm not a needy person. I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: don't need somebody to talk to all the time. In
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: fact I rarely need somebody to talk to, and um
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you know, I really kind of just take things in
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and deal with them that way. And I really needed her.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I got literally demoted from a job, didn't take the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: offer that I was in for twelve years. My ex husband,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I was diagnosed with cancer. My kids were
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: in turmoil. They didn't know what was going on then
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: know their dad was gonna live or die, even though
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: this day they don't like, there's so much that was
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: going on in the world. And then the pant I'm
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a kid, and I just felt like, for the first
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: time ever, I really needed my friend and she wasn't there. Yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I remember, I remember. I mean it was more of
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: a pain and a herd. It wasn't like, oh my god,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so bad that you got the show when I
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: didn't like it was. It wasn't anything like that, Like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I get it. I'm a businesswoman. I own a couple
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: of businesses, like I was on twelve years, like time
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: time to move on, Time to move on. That's it.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: It is what it is. And um so I didn't
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: really hold any anger towards that, but I'm just like,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: what the hell, Like, where's my friend. So I don't know,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. Who knows, who
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: knows that we'll ever talk again, but it's been very
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: hurtful for me. Another thing that was kind of hurtful
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: for me too is Heather was asked a question, how
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: did you feel when Shannon got casted on the show
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: or Shannon was on the show, and she said, finally
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: somebody I can be friends with. I'm like, oh, wait,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I thought I was your friend. I thought Peggy was
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: your friend. Because what does she mean by that? I
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: don't know, So VICKI, I actually when Shannon was cast
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: when Shannon was on the show, when the Heather met
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Shannon for the first time, she thought, oh, finally, she said,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: finally somebody I can be friends with. And I took
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that as a little bit of a dick. I haven't
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: talked to her about it yet, but I'm like, wait,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: what did you mean by that? Because we we hit
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: it off from the very beginning, and then Shannon came
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: in after that, so what do you mean by that?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: So that kind of annoyed me. I don't know, I
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: don't know, But overall, um, it wasn't their worst episode
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: by any means. I felt like there was a lot
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: of stupidity, like the arguing was a little bit I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: don't know when I was a little much. When I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: was in the car, I saw you know, Shannon, Gina
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and Emily in the backseat and it was like old
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: It almost felt like old housewives. And then I saw
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: you know, Heather and no Well and Gin in the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: front and it's like where they're going. That's kind of
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: what it felt like to me, like you need you
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: did a reboot, you need to keep going at another
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: seat in the front of that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I think I think it would be great. I think
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: they need to bring two of your friends and bring
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you back because you know no Ela, you know you
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: have history with Heather. I think that would be amazing.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And I think because I know the friends that they
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: called the viewers because you told me last night, yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I know how cool they are. So they're strong, amazing women,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: but they're also open minded. Yeah yeah. So how do
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: you feel about Heather comparing you know, she feels like
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: she's getting a bad rap as a mom um with
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Noel is saying that you push somebody against the wall.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: So Heathery basically compares pushing someone against the wall. When
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: she talked to Shannon, how would you feel if somebody
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: said you're a racist pig that steals money, I'm like, well,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: that's too totally different comparisons. It reminds you that thing
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: on Jersey last year with Gia that I'm not even
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: gonna repeat, but it was like, you make one analogy
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and you make another one that's worse. Like, just don't
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, you just shouldn't like you're you're a
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: pig that steals Like, you're a racist pig that steals
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: That does not compare to pushing somebody against the wall.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw that out there. So let's get
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: into fan thoughts. So fan thoughts and these are not
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: our thoughts. These are things that fans. These are thoughts.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I know, I have no thoughts. I like Noel. I
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: feel like Noella is acting in every episode. Yeah, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: kind of do. Keep in mind, she was a she's
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a huge super fan, so she would watch Housewives basically
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: all day every day, with a little Rachel thrown in,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: um in law and Order. But like she has been
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: studying these she knows every back thing. Um. That's why
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: when she sent you that text. I didn't know what
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: it meant, and like, like my my assistant had to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: explain it to me because he knows, like I don't
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: get it, and I was like, I don't know. So
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I said it to Anthony and he's like, I think
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: it means because you mentioned that you wanted to interview James, well,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: just because there's so much talk about him, of course
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: that people want to hear what he has to say. Yeah,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: like that's the only thing. Like she has really made
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: him out to be like this deadbeat dad that's not
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: taking care of them, it doesn't want anything to do
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and it's moved on. And from what I've heard, that's
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: not the case. Yeah, No, he's there. You know, he's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a great He's truly is a great guy. Yeah, dirt
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: off your back. I mean he will literally give you
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: the shirt off his back. Okay, let's take a break
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go into New Jersey. Okay, we
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: are back, and we're gonna go ahead and recap New Jersey. Now,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: in the past, I have not watched New Jersey for years,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: but now I am absolutely hooked. Like all my girlfriends
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: are like, what do you mean you don't watch New Jersey.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I don't have enough time
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: in the day. Now, I am obsessed with New Jersey.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It's one of It's my favorite one because I love
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the fact that it's like broads, their family, their kids involved,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: and the husbands are involved. I would have to say
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: they have the best husband cast ever, like the Dynamics
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: with the husbands so good and they're actually gorgon amazing.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: They're like they're they're actually friends. And I love the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: fact that this year there's no like team this or
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: that it's like they're all just kind of a little
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: bit wrong and a little bit right. They're hanging out, like, Yeah,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love Jersey. Um, I love Jersey.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I love Jersey. I feel like there's a lot of
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: storyline that's going on that's interesting. We'll get into the
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Jackie storyline, which is so heartbreaking, but basically so where
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the where the episode takes off is there at I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: want to call it the Ropes course because we did
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the same damn thing that's called escape or something tree escape.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Did you do the world were you on the show
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: when we did the Ropes Course? I don't think no,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: that was Emily Gina's first year. Okay, so we did
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the road, they did the rope course, and Theresa came
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: in piste Off. She's piste Off. I don't know if
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: you've been watching the season, but basically what's happening. There's
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: been a lot of talk, a lot of buzz about
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Louis about his past, and you gotta know, you got it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I knew when I brought Eddie in that people are
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be digging up his past and if he had
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: a past, they were gonna bring it up and all
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: that stuff. So some of the girls have brought up there,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: you know, his past. It's not great. I don't really
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: have a bad, horrible feeling about him. Um. I said
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: publicly that I felt like all his affirmations gave me
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: a little Brooks vibe, a little bit from Vicky. Well.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: When I was watching I'm not gonna lie, Margaret was you.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: She is Vicky and he is Brough. I mean there
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: are some similarities when I'm like, oh my god, I've
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: seen this before, but I've given him a chance, like
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I'm giving him a chance. People can change, you can
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: go through bad relationships, You do stupid things, like I
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: know I've done stupid things in past relationships I'm not
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: proud of. But it doesn't you know, it doesn't define
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: who I am. So Teresa says, she's you know, she's
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: in a love bubble. She doesn't want anybody to pop
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: this love bubble. She doesn't want to talk about anything
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: that's happened in the past. And Louie did not sign
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: up for this, therefore Margaret should not be talking about
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it or any of the other girls. Well, that's unfortunately
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: not how reality TV works, right, Yeah, anyone that you're
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: bringing on cameras signs up for it. I mean literally,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: you actually have to sign your name. Well, he had
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to sign a contract, so when you sign that contract,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: you are fair game. I mean, nobody wants their husband
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: or their children or you know what I mean, like
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: their mom to get involved in the drama. But and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: this it happens, and it's unfortunate. But this case, like
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I believe that underaged children shouldn't. I hold through to that.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I think every all of us that underage kids should
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: get a good at it. For lack of a better word, Um,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: but you know, he did sign up for it, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: he knew all this stuff. You gotta know, you gotta
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: know it's all going to come out. Yeah. So at
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: the ropes course, she was very you know, she was mad,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she was piste off. I like seeing that side of Teresa.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I like seeing the table flipping side of her that is,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: you know, very you know you did this, and what's
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that look on your face and all that stuff like
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: don't rull your eyes at me? The one that makes
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I love it, like there's no reasoning with her or
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you know, she's completely irrational too, and I'm just like, yeah,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: that makes no sense, but okay. And then there's Melissa,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: who does not want to get involved in family drama.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: She just sits back and it's like this right because
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: she can't pick. She can't go against her sister in law. No, no,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: you can't hard It's like family, you can't go against
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: your your sister in law. So she just kind of like, oh, God,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: kill me. When the cameras turn off, they still have
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: to have Christmas together. Yes, yes, so there there was
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: a lot that went on. She's blaming Margaret for everything
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: being leaked, but I'm like, you know, I feel like
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Margaret's just doing her job. This is reality TV, this
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: is what happens. Margaret didn't put it out there. There
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: was stories about it and I don't know, there's a
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: whole video oh that he was apologizing to his X
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, it was like a retreat type of thing.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: And I don't blame him for that, Like I feel
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: like he was trying to better himself. People want to
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: give him like a hard time about that. No, I
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: don't feel like that's bad. But then he went and
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: lied and said, well, she was crazy, the girl was crazy.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, you were you you were proposing to
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: her in this video, and now you're saying she's crazy.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: So one always tell the truth. Always tell the truth.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: You cannot lie because it's gonna catch up with you.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Don't ever lie. Own your stuff. I think you should
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: own it before anyone else finds it. Just own it,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: you know, um, because it's gonna come out. It's it's
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I am shocked stuff that people can find out, Like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: whoever these super fans, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: just recently, they can get hired by p I S
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: or something. I know. Well, just recently there was a
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: article that came out where I was on Heather de
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Bros Podcast and This was in two thousand, nineteen or eighteen,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: and we talked about She told me like she knew
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: about Gina getting arrested and d u I and La
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: La La la, and then laid Then fast forward to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: two she basically is like, I had no idea, and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: people dug that up. I you cannot lie. You cannot lie.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: You cannot lie because they will come back to bite
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: you when they asked. That's few. So Teresa is moving on.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: She's excited about her life with Louis, and she sold
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: her house, which I don't know, I kind of felt
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: it was sad. It was that was kind of a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: sad moment. She's moving. The girls are not happy. I mean,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I mean it's not happy, but it's hard. When they
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: moved into that house, I remember her picking out the backsplash,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: like I remember that, and I remember how little her
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: girls were, Um, how excited she was, you know, for
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: her redone house. Um. But I think the thing that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I love about Jersey is we've grown up with their
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: families and their kids and like I and they don't
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: change the cast all the time. Yeah, Like we fell
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: in love with Gina and Adriana. Adriana her daughter's name Gabriella.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Like we know her kids, and we care about what
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: happens to them when their dad a moment to jail,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Like we care, we care, we care now, and so
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I literally put our life on hold to wait to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: see what was gonna happen when they got out. Like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I do feel like Teresa is a huge staple in
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: that show. I really do, and like it for them
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: to lose, and you can see the pain and the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: kids because you know, those kids love your dad so much.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: You can see it when they talk about him. I mean,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. It's I think it's heartbreaking.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I understand from Teresa's perspective she wants to move on
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: with her new family in life. I get that, and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I support her. She needs to. I get that, But
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I see how it's hard for her kids,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: and I mean, it made me sad to see them
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: packing up and moving out of that house. But you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: looking forward to the future as your kids get older.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: But let's move into really dive into hockey, because you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: have a lot of experience with this absolutely heartbreaking, you know.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: She posted a picture recently with her and her husband,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: and she was so frail, like her arms were so thin.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: And I think that people don't understand um, with anorexia,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: maybe you're not physically like a skeleton, but you still
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: up here like you can't comprehend eating food, and you know,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: somebody like for me, like I've had struggles with food,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Like I definitely I'm not the norm. I'm like, I'm
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: gonna eat this, this and this. Like when she said,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like I don't eat ice cream, Like we go out
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: for ice cream. I do the same thing if we
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: go out of the family and we have frozen yogurt,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I don't need it. And I'm like, wow, Like, you
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: know that is putting a message to your children. Obviously
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: she has full blown anorexia. It's affected her, her kids
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: in the way that they see her. And she's being
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: very brave to me to open up about this. And
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you know a lot about it be has your daughter
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: has gone through it. I mean, rowan is. I think
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I do love that Bravo
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: was doing. Um Bravo has a tendency to put bows
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: on things, you know, and I've noticed they've done it
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: with a few eating disorder stories and now we're fine,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: and eating disorder is very similar to sobriety. It's one
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: day at a time. You're never recovered, You're always recovering.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And I like that they're giving the story justice because
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I think other people struggling will realize you're always struggling.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Some days are better than others. That the time where
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: they talked about how she couldn't go away for four days,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: that hit home to me. I remember a trip with Rowan.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: You know, she could only eat carriage sticks and hummus.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: It was the only thing you could eat and at
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a certain point we had to come home early. Um,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and it consumes you. I don't get ice cream when
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I go out with the kids either, but that's it
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't consume me. And that's the difference in your life.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I just I don't think about food that much. All
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: people that are and actually think about his food and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: not eating it. How many calories is this the weighing
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: out of the food? How often can I work out?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it is. When Rowan was in the height
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: of it during the pandemic, it was I mean, it
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: was exhausting to watch her sad and there was nothing
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I could do to help. Um. You know, I did
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: a page six thing with her about about it because
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: she never got to tell her story. They cut it
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: all out, and you know, she does talk about how
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: she's doing better and these tools that have helped her.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Obviously therapy is a big one, but like I do,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I do love the Jackies being so honest and so
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: vulnerable and her husband so supportive, Yeah, so sweet. So
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: he's like, maybe I don't care what size you are,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: like I love you for who you are, And that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: just broke my heart. And then also when she told
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: the story about putting lipstick on in high school and
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: a boy walking past her and saying it's not going
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: to help and she and she basically said, I'm so
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: effing gross, and that, like that literally almost brought me
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: to tear. Is to think, like that you that you
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: really think that, like I'm so freaking gross, or the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: fact that what that one boy said so not even realizing,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: has these long term consequences. I think this is the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: beauty of housewives. That moment is the beauty of housewives. Yes,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, the bickering and that this that he
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: should she should. I don't watch for that. I don't
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: identify with that in my life anymore. That moment with
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Jackie with her the therapist and her with her husband,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: that's what we need more of that. I'd love seeing it.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like you know, it's it's painful,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: it's hard to watch, it's hurtful, it's but it's also
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: eye opening. Yeah, and there's a lot of people they're
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be saved by that. I can't imagine her d
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: M s right now. Um, you know, I hope she
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: has someone that can help her get through them because
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: she's going to save lives. Yeah, and then we're gonna
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: move on to Jennifer and her husband Bill at lunch.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you followed this, but um, he
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: had an affair on her ten years ago and he's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: very dismissive of it, like it happened, well, deal with it, right.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it is like I don't
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: want to film and talk about this kind of attitude
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: or that's how he treats it. Because she finally found
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: her voice last night, like she finally was like, listen,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: you're not helping matters, like you're not helping me in this,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: You're not supporting me, like you cheated on me. And
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: the bottom line is at this point, if we divorced,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I get half, and I'm like, you get half. I mean,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the transformation of Jin from her first
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: season on the show, where she's a stay at home
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: mom to five kids who had never left your kids
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: for a vacation. Do you remember that? Yes, they went
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to a farm and she had never left them, and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: he was giving that. I remember him being like, good
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: moms don't leave their kids. I was like, wait, would um?
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at her. You can tell she
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: had like one drink and she's like she kind of
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: gets and so anyways, so half, I'm taking half, just
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: so you know half. So keep it up, Ash and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: keep it up. And did you notice he turned red
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and got redder and redder and read her as she
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: kept talking. He's like, oh shit, I'm screwed. I mean,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I personally loved Jin. I know her in real life
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: and I love her. So for me to see her
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: just lean back and be like m m, yeah, boy,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: you better watch and you better watch it right. Yeah?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: So that was that was That was actually a really
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: good scene. I really enjoyed that. And then they move
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: on to Dolores's softball event. Can I just say I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: love Dolores? Yeah, I love her. I love her. I've
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: never met her, but I love her. I love her
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: relationship with her ex. I mean, she's changing everything out
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: there that you can have an accent, you can actually
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: hang out with, have fun with, like you're once in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: love with this person, and it just, I don't know,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: it just feels good, right, I mean I do. I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: will say I looked to her and Frank as role
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: models for what I'm trying. They're one role models anybody
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: wants to if you're getting divorced, watch to Lauras and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Frank because they have such a great relationship and they
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: have kids together, and it gives me hope. It gives
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: me They give me hope. She gives me hope, and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I love it. Raised so much money I know. Okay,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: so Dolores a softball event they're raising money for. I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: can't remember what the charity is, but it's something to
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: do with breast illness. Maybe I think it's her breast
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: cancer and breast cancer. Yeah, I mean, she just she
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: kept it real. She was sweet, she was nice, she
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: was all you could tell. She was generally worried about
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: raising money. You know, a lot of a lot of
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: girls go on there like I'm gonna I'm gonna do
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: a charity event because it's gonna make me look so cool.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: That's not the vibe I got from her. She's like, listen,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing. I've had my own issues
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: with breast like biopsies, like I'm trying to raise money,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and it totally showed like she was amazing. I got
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: to meet them at the Salt Lake City premiere that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Meredith hosted in New York, and I've met like, I've
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: met it most of them more than once, but I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: met her real for the first time, and she's just
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: so cool and down to earth and nice and like,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I love the Jersey women as people, like as characters.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I love them as characters, but as people, I love
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: them too, And that's like a rare That's a rare
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: breed right there. Yeah, So Teresa recently unfollowed me. Sorry
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: and her man, I know, I actually like her. She's
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: very sweet. Um, she han't followed me, and I think
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: that she didn't hear the whole story. So the press
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: went crazy. I basically said that all the affirmations and
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that Louie was giving her on camera
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of how Brooks was with Vicky,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: because he would give her cards and affirmations. I didn't
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: mean anything more than that. So I'm sorry, Teresa, sorry
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: you and followed me. I don't know center flowers, center
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: affirm center flowers, center flowers, but I do love like.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Teresa's a hustler, she's a money maker. She's like, listen, bitches.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I don't like any of you, and I'm not happy
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: with any of you. But here is my new workoutline.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Can you please wear it? When you I'm like, you go.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: You got a girl, You're like a savage, Like here
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: you go, there you go. I can't stand any of you.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Where my shit? Yeah, I can't stand any of you.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Awear your ship. Okay, So we're coming to the end.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: So I just want to do some fan new Jersey
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: fan thoughts, um and one of the thoughts where the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: husbands on the franchise are the most entertaining. Absolutely we
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: agree with that, right, I mean that one scene a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: few seasons ago drunk Dogorga following on the floor Priceless Island. Yeah,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I just think it is. It's like I feel like
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: if Eddie was a round guys like that, he would
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: be he would fit in, he would have fun. He's
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: never like, since I've been casted, the guys have never
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: had a good, you know, mix of guys that promoted that.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Though in Orange County they never promoted the family aspect
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: as much as the women fighting. I think every show
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: has their niche. Jersey is the family show. I love it.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I love it. It's funny because I'm really deep diving
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: into all these shows now and being on the outside
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: looking in. Obviously it's hard for me to look into
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Orange County and talk about it because it's too close
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: to my heart. But the other shows, I'm like, oh
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: my god, this is freaking amazing, Like I am now
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: a super fan, Like this is crazy. So one fan
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: thought is that they're not enjoying Jia getting into the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: mix because, after all, she is a kid. But yet
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: she's she's crossing that age where she's into her twenties now,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: like is she still a kid or is she she
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: have an opinion like whatever? G has grown up on
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: the show. She's been the voice of reason more times
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: than the grown ups have, like let's let's take a
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: step back. That girl has been more reasonable than her parents,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: oh or her uncle many a time, many a time,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: So we don't I don't really care. I didn't I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: offended because of course, Margaret's not going to go after her.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: You always support your mom. Like my thing is, I
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: can say mean things to my mom, did you better not?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: You know? Right? Right? And we all agree with that.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: So of course I wasn't offended by it. Let her,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: she's in her twenties. Hour let her have in her
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: opinion of Jackie, showing her absolute beautiful story. So proud
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: of her, I am too. Well, we'll do a couple
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: of different headlines, get them out real quickly. Only have
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left. Um, well, but the top one.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Tambra Judge claims and niece Richard tried to hook up
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: with her at Bravo Con In two thousand nineteen. Tambra
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Judge claims at Brandy Glandfill and niece Richard tried to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: hook up with her at Bravo Con. Multiple sources exclusively
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: confirmed to page six, and starters familiar with the situation
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: tell us that the bombshell do they call me a
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: bombshell tell us the bombshell claim was made or bombshell
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: line was made during Judge and Glenville's were filming. I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: don't really have much to say about this, UM. I
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: think my only comment was what took so long? Because
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: we've all known about this since Bravo con Well, I'm
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna say much on this. UM, it's not as
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: bad as what they make it out to be like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: is very I mean I I learned about it from
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: some crew members that worked on both shows, like, oh
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: my god, the funniest thing just happened. That's what we're
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna definitely hear more about that, UM coming
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: up on the Ultimate Girls Trip that I think it's
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: gonna Aaron June, I cannot wait. I cannot wait for you.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I know. The first look at the Real House is
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Explosive Reunion fourteen trailer. UM. It was crazy and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to their season. I have not watched
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Atlanta in years, but our friend James worked on it
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: and he said it was amazing. Oh, I can only
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: imagine somemazing. I'm not even get into it. Let's see um. Okay,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: So Bethany Franklois slam through a Housewives of New York
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: for the reboot as boring. Okay, I think we all know.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: When Andy Cohen announces the unique plan for the future
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: of Real house of New York, there were going to
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: be some strong opinions, and former iconic housewife Bethany Frankel
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: is full of strong opinions, so naturally, she took to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: social media to give her thoughts and throwing some shade.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: As reported by his Page six, Bethany used a TikTok
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: trend to express herself. She lip sync to audio that said,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: it's a long story and it's very effinge boring. Bethany
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: then captioned my thoughts on the Real Housewife's reboots. So
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: it's safe to say Bethany is not going to be
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: a part of the Real Housewives of New York reboot
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: or the legacy. Um. I kind of feel like what
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Bravo is doing with that is freaking amazing. It's amazing.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, we don't know where to go forward
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: from here. So much has happened. Let's bring in young
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: new people and start over. Let's start all over. So
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: I'm a New Yorker now, like I live there part time,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: and my version of New York is nothing like the ones.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I mean. Beviously I've run into Ramona sometimes restaurants, but like,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: there was such a cool hip vibe to New York
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: that you really love York, Like the Epperast Side isn't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: the only part of New York. You know. I'm considering
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: getting an apartment in New York because I just love
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: it so much. Oh, I would love that. I would
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: love Maybe I can be part of the reboot. Yeah,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: just kidd I'm just kidding. But I think that's all
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: we have for today. Ron Wynday, so much for co
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: hosting with me today. It was so much fun. And
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: also that I finally got to like see you and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: catch out. We have been trying to get together for
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: lunch four months now and we actually ended up doing
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: it virtually, which I'm okay with. But we still we
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: still need to to go to lunch together, and um,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll do it soon. Let me know when
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: you're free, we'll catch up. I still want you to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: meet Victoria. She wants to meet you so bad. I
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: want to meet her. Yeah, you're gonna love her. You're
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: going two. She's you're gonna look at her and go Okay,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah yeah, Well, thank you so much
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: for filling in for Teddy while she's out Lane and
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: the Sun Hi. I know she she was bummed she
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: couldn't be here, But thank you so much and I
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: love you. Bye, guys ye