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- 0:07Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 0:11Speaker 1: Truth on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 0:15Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 0:18Speaker 2: We need to clean our house. Our house is not
- 0:21Speaker 2: clean right now. That was Mike McCarthy yesterday speaking at
- 0:24Speaker 2: his weekly press conference in regards to the Pittsburgh Steelers
- 0:28Speaker 2: having 10 days now to clean things up on offense,
- 0:31Speaker 2: clean things up on defense as they prepare for the
- 0:34Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts this upcoming Sunday.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Both teams 2-2 on the season.
- 0:40Speaker 2: As the Pittsburgh Steelers look to get back on track
- 0:42Speaker 2: in week number five.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Double B, what's going on?
- 0:45Speaker 4: Shouldn't he say red up our house? Wouldn't that be
- 0:48Speaker 4: the proper Pittsburghese term?
- 0:50Speaker 2: I like that too. I like that too. Either way,
- 0:53Speaker 2: did Mike McCarthy, did he say haas? I didn't listen
- 0:56Speaker 2: that closely.
- 0:58Speaker 5: No, I mean, it wasn't noticeable if he did.
- 1:00Speaker 4: I don't know what his most Pittsburghese-ish words are at
- 1:06Speaker 4: Or maybe I'm just used to the accent already through,
- 1:10Speaker 4: I don't know, what's it been, the first.
- 1:12Speaker 5: Nine months on the job or so, right? It's been
- 1:14Speaker 5: a while. Almost nine months.
- 1:15Speaker 3: It's been a while.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:16Speaker 3: I've heard the Don a couple times from him.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:20Speaker 3: That's definitely stood out.
- 1:21Speaker 5: For sure.
- 1:21Speaker 4: And he and the players have both said when he's
- 1:24Speaker 4: talking fast in the headset, sometimes it gets a little
- 1:27Speaker 4: bit garbled. But, no, I didn't think it was overly
- 1:33Speaker 4: Yinzer-ish listening to him.
- 1:35Speaker 5: Yesterday. What's going on with you, Ed? What's new?
- 1:37Speaker 3: Not too much.
- 1:38Speaker 2: We're just getting ready, Double B, for week number five,
- 1:40Speaker 2: and it's good to put week number four behind us
- 1:43Speaker 2: as the Pittsburgh Steelers last Thursday night. It almost seems
- 1:46Speaker 2: like a century ago at this point. I'm sure for
- 1:48Speaker 2: the players and coaches, they want it to seem like
- 1:50Speaker 2: that as well.
- 1:51Speaker 4: Are you a self-checkout guy when you're stopping at the
- 1:54Speaker 4: gas station to get coffee?
- 1:58Speaker 3: Absolutely. I've got to speed up my process. I have
- 2:00Speaker 3: no patience.
- 2:00Speaker 4: I'm amazed at the amount of people who don't do
- 2:04Speaker 4: self-checkout I know some people are resistant to technology especially
- 2:08Speaker 4: those of the older generation no doubt but this morning
- 2:12Speaker 4: after dropping the kids off at school I went and
- 2:15Speaker 4: I'm like there's like six people waiting in line to
- 2:17Speaker 4: check out and I you almost feel bad when you
- 2:20Speaker 4: go to the self-checkout register just right through but and
- 2:24Speaker 4: then like I feel like they're looking at me I'm
- 2:25Speaker 4: like guys this isn't that hard you know you scan
- 2:27Speaker 4: your little fob yeah you scan your two items and
- 2:31Speaker 4: you hit a couple of buttons on a screen and
- 2:33Speaker 4: then you're done.
- 2:33Speaker 3: And if you have.
- 2:34Speaker 2: An issue, something's not registering up, you just wave your
- 2:36Speaker 2: hand and call somebody.
- 2:38Speaker 4: I guess if you're buying tobacco products, you can't do that.
- 2:41Speaker 4: I think in alcohol products, but I don't know. It
- 2:44Speaker 4: was like eight in the morning. So yeah, that just
- 2:48Speaker 4: blows my mind that more people don't, don't do that.
- 2:50Speaker 4: But maybe in five, 10, 15 years when the generational
- 2:55Speaker 4: divide lessens, there'll be more, more of a line for
- 2:58Speaker 4: the self and, less of a line for the traditional checkout.
- 3:01Speaker 2: The older I'm getting, Double B, the patience just is
- 3:04Speaker 2: getting thinner and thinner and thinner. For instance, if I'm
- 3:07Speaker 2: sitting in traffic, if I'm trying to get into town
- 3:09Speaker 2: and GPS is telling me 30 minutes, I will go
- 3:14Speaker 2: all the way around the city, even if it takes
- 3:16Speaker 2: me 35, even if it takes me five more minutes,
- 3:18Speaker 2: but I'm moving.
- 3:19Speaker 5: I'm moving. My father and my father-in-law are both like that.
- 3:23Speaker 5: Believe me, believe me. But that's a, yeah, that's a
- 3:26Speaker 5: patience issue.
- 3:28Speaker 4: The self-checkout is just like an efficiency thing.
- 3:30Speaker 5: Like we've got better ways of doing it now in society.
- 3:32Speaker 4: You know what also gets me on that is if
- 3:34Speaker 4: you do like a mobile order for, you know, a
- 3:37Speaker 4: coffee shop or fast food and more places need to
- 3:40Speaker 4: have the separate lines. Because what good does ordering ahead
- 3:43Speaker 4: do me if there's six cars ahead of me when
- 3:45Speaker 4: I get to the actual line in the window?
- 3:47Speaker 1: Right, right.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Starbucks comes to mind in that world, right? Right. I
- 3:52Speaker 2: haven't had too many issues with Starbucks. Usually, by the
- 3:55Speaker 2: time I'm there, if the app says it's ready, it's ready.
- 3:57Speaker 2: But then I'll look, and as you said, I'll look,
- 3:58Speaker 2: and there'll be a line.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Of 10 cars. And I'm thinking, what are we doing?
- 4:01Speaker 4: But then you have no choice but to either get
- 4:04Speaker 4: in that line and wait anyway for people who are
- 4:07Speaker 4: ordering in real time, or I guess you can choose
- 4:09Speaker 4: the walk-in option.
- 4:11Speaker 3: I'm parking and walking in, grabbing my stuff, getting back
- 4:13Speaker 3: in my car.
- 4:13Speaker 5: I typically do that, too.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I'm not waiting.
- 4:17Speaker 5: First world problems.
- 4:17Speaker 4: It'd be really nice to order ahead mobile online. and
- 4:21Speaker 4: stay in your car and go through the drive-thru. But
- 4:23Speaker 4: if not enough of society's doing that, then that's not
- 4:27Speaker 4: really going to help.
- 4:29Speaker 3: It's not going to help the cause. Well, this is
- 4:31Speaker 3: a good segue.
- 4:32Speaker 5: That was just for me to get off my chest
- 4:33Speaker 5: this morning.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Dude, I love it.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And by the way, just so the listening audience knows,
- 4:38Speaker 2: this is on the fly, so we didn't pre-plan that conversation,
- 4:40Speaker 2: but I like it because it's a good segue to this.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Is Steelers Nation going to be patient this season, especially
- 4:47Speaker 2: now that we're seeing these younger players, these rookies, starting
- 4:50Speaker 2: to work their way in on offense and defense because,
- 4:52Speaker 2: Double B, as we talked about yesterday here on the show,
- 4:55Speaker 2: there's going to be some growing pains.
- 4:56Speaker 4: And we've gotten literal pains in that because Mike McCarthy
- 5:00Speaker 4: confirmed yesterday that Derek Harmon is going to be out, well,
- 5:04Speaker 4: putting him on IR, which the team did Monday, means
- 5:08Speaker 4: you have to miss at least four weeks. But McCarthy
- 5:11Speaker 4: had confirmed prior to that, I think, that, yeah, he's
- 5:13Speaker 4: going to miss several weeks. Hopefully it's only four, knock
- 5:16Speaker 4: on wood, with that foot injury for Harmon. at which
- 5:19Speaker 4: point they could get him back after the bye, I believe,
- 5:22Speaker 4: when you face Cincy. Again, coming out of that, in Cincy.
- 5:26Speaker 4: And Jamel Dean, it doesn't sound like he's going to
- 5:29Speaker 4: be able to go Sunday. Seems like he's more week
- 5:31Speaker 4: to week than day to day, based on McCarthy's answer
- 5:37Speaker 4: on the Steelers. Basically, their number one corner at this point. So,
- 5:43Speaker 4: I mean, we'll see if they can get him get
- 5:48Speaker 4: him back sooner than later. And then, you know, they'll
- 5:50Speaker 4: evaluate Wednesday before practice, but it, you know, making progress
- 5:55Speaker 4: didn't really sound too, too encouraging. And I think there's
- 5:59Speaker 4: been some other reporting to the effect that Dean is
- 6:01Speaker 4: likely going to miss at least one game. Hopefully for
- 6:03Speaker 4: his sake, he can go back and play in Tampa
- 6:06Speaker 4: Bay for his little, his.
- 6:09Speaker 5: Little revenge game in a couple of weeks.
- 6:11Speaker 4: And then they signed Sean Murphy Bunting veteran free agent corner, who,
- 6:16Speaker 4: Missed all of last season with an injury, but has
- 6:18Speaker 4: played a lot of games. He's 29 years old. You
- 6:22Speaker 4: won't be dealing with a young player from that standpoint.
- 6:25Speaker 4: He's new to this program and system, but he's been
- 6:28Speaker 4: around the block to say the least. And I think that, oh,
- 6:31Speaker 4: and a new practice squad linebacker, right? Marte Mapu, if
- 6:35Speaker 4: I'm saying that correctly.
- 6:37Speaker 3: He's been around too, right?
- 6:38Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he has.
- 6:39Speaker 4: He's played NFL football and he was a, I think
- 6:42Speaker 4: he was a fairly decent prospect coming out of, It's
- 6:46Speaker 4: a small school, Sacramento state, but yeah, he was a
- 6:47Speaker 4: third rounder in 2023 of the Patriots. And, you know,
- 6:51Speaker 4: it was with the Texans practice squad earlier this year.
- 6:55Speaker 4: And Hey, I think based on what we saw the
- 6:57Speaker 4: other night, I do not hate the idea of get
- 6:59Speaker 4: another linebacker in here and at least give somebody a look.
- 7:02Speaker 4: I'm not saying you got to toss everybody out to
- 7:05Speaker 4: the curb after one rough outing, but it doesn't help to,
- 7:08Speaker 4: or it doesn't hurt to have a little bit more
- 7:09Speaker 4: depth there in Mapu.
- 7:11Speaker 5: He's only a, he's only 26. So still a, a
- 7:14Speaker 5: relatively young player in the league.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Did Coach McCarthy have an update on Deshaun Elliott yesterday?
- 7:19Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he's making progress.
- 7:22Speaker 4: I actually, you know, he didn't say that he's going
- 7:25Speaker 4: to definitely be back for week five, which he's now eligible,
- 7:28Speaker 4: but he said he had a chance to look at
- 7:29Speaker 4: him last week and he's getting close.
- 7:32Speaker 5: That's a pretty good sign.
- 7:33Speaker 4: Now, there was no update on the timeline, but just
- 7:36Speaker 4: going back to the whole process with Elliott starting the
- 7:39Speaker 4: season on IR designated to return, I was kind of
- 7:42Speaker 4: thinking along the lines of it should only be a
- 7:45Speaker 4: four-week absence and a relatively brief absence. But until we
- 7:49Speaker 4: see otherwise, we can't run with that just yet.
- 7:53Speaker 5: We can just hope.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Double B's article is up on Steelers.com if you want
- 7:57Speaker 2: to check it out. It's a recap of yesterday's Mike
- 8:00Speaker 2: McCarthy press conference. That's where we start today's show, recapping that.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And then coming up here at 2.20, we will hear
- 8:06Speaker 2: from the coordinators today and 2.40, starting with our good
- 8:10Speaker 2: friend Patrick Graham. We don't know Patrick Graham on a
- 8:14Speaker 2: personal basis, but we love hearing.
- 8:15Speaker 5: From Patrick Graham. You feel like you do, though, after
- 8:17Speaker 5: his press conferences.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely. He had some interesting things to say from yesterday.
- 8:22Speaker 5: Very entertaining, very personable.
- 8:24Speaker 4: There's a reason why he's been one of those names
- 8:27Speaker 4: floating around as a future NFL head coach.
- 8:30Speaker 3: You can definitely feel it when you're in the room.
- 8:31Speaker 5: Before you even get to the X's and O's and
- 8:33Speaker 5: the scheme part of it, too.
- 8:34Speaker 2: And he's been around, and he has some X's and
- 8:37Speaker 2: O's to do this upcoming week leading into this game
- 8:40Speaker 2: against the Indianapolis Colts because they will face Jonathan Taylor,
- 8:44Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the NFL, and
- 8:46Speaker 2: he's been ramping up the last couple of weeks. And
- 8:48Speaker 2: now when you have Derek Harmon out to double B,
- 8:51Speaker 2: that defensive line is going to have to play well
- 8:53Speaker 2: this week up front, getting through that offensive line, trying
- 8:56Speaker 2: to stop that run with Jonathan Taylor. And as we
- 8:59Speaker 2: talked about yesterday, too, here, they have some good options,
- 9:02Speaker 2: you know, compared to last year when Derek Harmon started
- 9:04Speaker 2: the season on the IR and they struggled to stop
- 9:06Speaker 2: the run Now you have Keanu Benton in the mix,
- 9:09Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day in the mix. Of course, you had
- 9:11Speaker 2: Benton in the mix last year, too. But you added
- 9:12Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day. You got Gabriel Rubio, Kevin Jobity. So
- 9:17Speaker 2: you have some options there. They're younger players. Of course,
- 9:20Speaker 2: Cam Hayward still operating at a high level.
- 9:23Speaker 3: So I don't think it's.
- 9:24Speaker 2: As dim as it was a year ago, but we
- 9:26Speaker 2: will certainly find out on Sunday. It's a good test
- 9:28Speaker 2: right off the bat with now Derek Harmon on the IR.
- 9:31Speaker 2: You face a very good running back in Jonathan Taylor.
- 9:33Speaker 4: Need more from everybody. Need more from Cam Hayward at
- 9:36Speaker 4: the top. Need more from Keanu Benton. Need more from Y.A.
- 9:40Speaker 5: Black, S.J.D., Sebastian Joseph Day.
- 9:43Speaker 4: And then, yeah, if it's Rubio who comes up or
- 9:46Speaker 4: even both Rubio and Kevin Jobity, everybody needs to put
- 9:49Speaker 4: their hand in the pile. And I'd be saying that
- 9:52Speaker 4: even if Derek Harmon were still healthy after the run
- 9:55Speaker 4: defense that we saw at times the other night, Ed,
- 9:57Speaker 4: but certainly with Harmon out, somebody who we all thought
- 10:01Speaker 4: was going to be a big piece of this puzzle
- 10:02Speaker 4: and it kind of goes in line with we all
- 10:05Speaker 4: thought Deshaun.
- 10:06Speaker 5: Elliott and Joey Porter Jr.
- 10:07Speaker 4: Were going to be a big piece of this puzzle
- 10:09Speaker 4: too coming out of uh pre you know training camp
- 10:12Speaker 4: and preseason we know that Porter Jr. certainly won't be
- 10:15Speaker 4: and Elliott is still working his way back but you
- 10:18Speaker 4: know just give up uh 112 yards on the ground
- 10:23Speaker 4: to the Browns, an average of 4.1 yards per carry,
- 10:25Speaker 4: and clearly that 28-yard touchdown run stands out. You want
- 10:29Speaker 4: to see those big guys up front whooping blocks, keeping
- 10:32Speaker 4: the linebackers clean. I think it goes for every level
- 10:36Speaker 4: of the defense right now needs to be better after
- 10:38Speaker 4: what we saw in Cleveland and even some of what
- 10:40Speaker 4: kind of lingered and carried over from Cincinnati, which is
- 10:44Speaker 4: clearly the Steelers' best win of the season, and that
- 10:47Speaker 4: reminds me, While we're on the topic of recent current events,
- 10:51Speaker 4: it was a good thing that the Steelers caught the
- 10:52Speaker 4: Falcons in week one. I don't know if you saw
- 10:54Speaker 4: much of Monday Night Football, but they jumped on the
- 10:56Speaker 4: Saints early and kind of kept their foot on their neck,
- 11:00Speaker 4: so to speak.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Yeah, they are heating up. They've looked good the last
- 11:02Speaker 3: couple of weeks.
- 11:03Speaker 2: And my Saints, who are my preseason darling pick in
- 11:06Speaker 2: the NFL, not looking so good the last couple of weeks.
- 11:09Speaker 4: Well, the Steelers might catch them at a good time
- 11:11Speaker 4: in Paris in a few weeks. But, yeah, I mean,
- 11:13Speaker 4: the Falcons, we know that they were rather– impotent other
- 11:17Speaker 4: than Bajon Robinson in week one with Cooper Rush at
- 11:19Speaker 4: the controls. Sure seems like Michael Penix Jr. has unlocked
- 11:24Speaker 4: a lot for that team. And you know what I say, Ed?
- 11:27Speaker 5: I say good.
- 11:28Speaker 4: I say that's great because now they face the Ravens
- 11:31Speaker 4: and they can help the Steelers out there.
- 11:33Speaker 5: They will face the Bengals later this season. That's an
- 11:37Speaker 5: international game. I forget where that one is. Germany, maybe? Falcons, Bengals?
- 11:41Speaker 3: That sounds right.
- 11:42Speaker 4: They'll get the Chiefs later on this year in another
- 11:44Speaker 4: AFC crossover. and in Cleveland December 13th. So I say,
- 11:50Speaker 4: go ahead, hit your stride, Falcons. You're in the rear
- 11:53Speaker 4: view for us in Pittsburgh. Go ahead and become a
- 11:56Speaker 4: buzzsaw right before you run through four more AFC clubs.
- 12:00Speaker 2: One last note on the Mike McCarthy press conference from yesterday. Brian,
- 12:03Speaker 2: you wrote on Steelers.com about the calendar officially changing over
- 12:08Speaker 2: now from September to October. And as you wrote, it
- 12:10Speaker 2: isn't just about fall foliage. Well, sometimes it is, or
- 12:13Speaker 2: the crisp air, which we're getting now. But it's about
- 12:16Speaker 2: playing better football in that grind. And Mike McCarthy is
- 12:20Speaker 2: embracing that. He quoted yesterday by saying, most importantly, it's
- 12:23Speaker 2: the Steeler way, and this is it. He said, we've
- 12:27Speaker 2: had the new practice schedule. We've gone through all the gymnastics.
- 12:30Speaker 3: I love that.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Of why we do things and so forth. The coaches
- 12:34Speaker 2: and players need to trust that. that it will work
- 12:36Speaker 2: for you. So, you know, your point there is the
- 12:38Speaker 2: calendar's turning, there's adjustments to be made in season, and
- 12:41Speaker 2: Coach McCarthy and that staff obviously working on that at
- 12:44Speaker 2: this point after starting 2-2 on the season.
- 12:47Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been up and down, you know, one win,
- 12:48Speaker 4: one loss, one win, one loss. At some point, you
- 12:51Speaker 4: want to get rid of that pattern, obviously, and stack
- 12:54Speaker 4: some wins together. You know, the McCarthy-era Steelers still searching
- 12:57Speaker 4: for their first road win, can't get that Sunday, but
- 13:00Speaker 4: they're still searching for their first winning streak thus far,
- 13:03Speaker 4: and they can at least get that started this and
- 13:06Speaker 4: then try to carry that into what would be their
- 13:09Speaker 4: first road win and their first win streak in Tampa.
- 13:12Speaker 4: But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves because, yes,
- 13:15Speaker 4: McCarthy said they've got some things to clean up. I
- 13:17Speaker 4: don't know why a lot of people, both locally and nationally, Ed,
- 13:22Speaker 4: seem to think that that was some big season-defining or
- 13:30Speaker 4: revealing comment from him. I think he's said some variation of,
- 13:34Speaker 4: we need to clean things up after every game to
- 13:37Speaker 4: this point.
- 13:38Speaker 3: And you should, as an NFL team, you have to.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Right.
- 13:41Speaker 4: And I think that people were reading very far into that.
- 13:44Speaker 4: You know, I might have to rant on that to
- 13:48Speaker 4: start off our next segment. I don't even think I
- 13:50Speaker 4: would have enough time, but yeah, let's tee that up.
- 13:52Speaker 5: Let's hold off on that.
- 13:53Speaker 2: I know what you're referring to because I've seen the
- 13:55Speaker 2: same social media garbage.
- 13:56Speaker 4: I mean, it's just generally like the two sentences, you know,
- 13:59Speaker 4: we need to clean up our own house. Our house
- 14:01Speaker 4: isn't clean right now. You had to listen to the
- 14:03Speaker 4: whole thing in context. And I think we should all
- 14:06Speaker 4: listen to more things in context in today's day and age.
- 14:08Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm going to get up on my soapbox
- 14:10Speaker 4: on that when we return.
- 14:11Speaker 2: And that's why I started the show with that comment,
- 14:13Speaker 2: because it's X's and O's and it should be cleaned
- 14:16Speaker 2: up right now because you're two and two and you've
- 14:19Speaker 2: had a mixed back through the first four weeks. But
- 14:20Speaker 2: one last thing, one other thing coach McCarthy said with
- 14:23Speaker 2: that yesterday, and it's in your article, double B is quote,
- 14:26Speaker 2: you're hard pressed to find a team or two that
- 14:28Speaker 2: feels really good about where they are right now.
- 14:30Speaker 3: That's the norm.
- 14:31Speaker 5: And he's right.
- 14:32Speaker 2: I mean, every team through four weeks, it's an early
- 14:34Speaker 2: sample size. There's some good, there's some bad. Now, listen,
- 14:36Speaker 2: if you're one of those 0-4 NFL teams, you may
- 14:38Speaker 2: feel a little worse. And if you're 4-0, you're feeling
- 14:41Speaker 2: really good. But for the rest, in the middle of
- 14:43Speaker 2: the pack, you have a win or two so far
- 14:44Speaker 2: this season. You're still trying to figure out your identity
- 14:47Speaker 2: here in 2026, and the Steelers are certainly doing that.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Whenever we come back, we'll hear more from Double B
- 14:52Speaker 2: about the press conference yesterday and what he just alluded to,
- 14:54Speaker 2: as well as we'll hear from Patrick Graham is.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Ready to say Patrick Queen. Well, we might hear from
- 14:59Speaker 3: Patrick Queen too.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Who knows? As well as coach Angelico and even coach Crossman,
- 15:04Speaker 2: the special teams coach spoke yesterday as well. Coming up
- 15:07Speaker 2: here at three and three 20, our top 10 plays. Yes,
- 15:10Speaker 2: we did find top 10 of plays from Cleveland and
- 15:13Speaker 2: Pittsburgh from last Thursday night. We'll officially put a bow
- 15:16Speaker 2: on that as well as get to some NFL news
- 15:18Speaker 2: at the tail end of the show.
- 15:20Speaker 3: He's back.
- 15:20Speaker 5: Oh, I'm troop.
- 15:21Speaker 2: It is the Steelers report here on Steelers nation radio,
- 15:23Speaker 2: part of the Steelers audio network.
- 15:34Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 15:38Speaker 1: Truth on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 15:42Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 15:44Speaker 2: We were talking before the break about bouncing back, something
- 15:47Speaker 2: that the Steelers did after losing in New England against
- 15:50Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. And now for a second time in
- 15:54Speaker 2: the last few weeks, they will have an opportunity to
- 15:56Speaker 2: bounce back as well this.
- 15:58Speaker 3: Upcoming Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts. And Brian, I think
- 16:02Speaker 3: that's the theme of the week. Bounce back.
- 16:05Speaker 5: Resilience.
- 16:05Speaker 4: They've already showed that once this season. And, you know,
- 16:10Speaker 4: that was the, I'd say the worst loss of the
- 16:12Speaker 4: season was in New England. Now, nobody liked the way
- 16:15Speaker 4: that it went in Cleveland, but they were in that
- 16:17Speaker 4: game till the very end. They bounced back in that game.
- 16:21Speaker 4: And for all we know, Browns might end up being
- 16:23Speaker 4: a pretty good team this year, at least through four games.
- 16:26Speaker 4: It looks like they are actually. The Patriots game was just,
- 16:30Speaker 4: you know, flushed that one. Nothing really went right. Defense
- 16:34Speaker 4: played okay, but the fact that they got up off
- 16:37Speaker 4: the mat from that one and beat a good Cincinnati
- 16:40Speaker 4: Bengals team at home and played pretty well on both
- 16:44Speaker 4: sides of the ball, at least in spurts to do so,
- 16:48Speaker 4: that gives you some confidence in this team's resolve, and
- 16:51Speaker 4: that's an intangible, but also Mike McCarthy and his staff's
- 16:55Speaker 4: ability to clean up things and fix things, which he
- 16:58Speaker 4: addressed again yesterday.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Yeah, we started the show out today with a little
- 17:03Speaker 2: Pittsburghese for you because Mike McCarthy's a Pittsburgher. And we
- 17:06Speaker 2: said how he quoted yesterday by saying we need to
- 17:08Speaker 2: clean our house. Our house is not clean right now.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Now I can't get off the Pittsburghese, Brian. I'm probably
- 17:14Speaker 2: going to do it for the rest of the show now.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I should have set myself up to start things out
- 17:18Speaker 2: today that way. But, you know, you had a take
- 17:20Speaker 2: on that, Brian, because on social media, a lot of
- 17:22Speaker 2: folks took that one quote and went in a few
- 17:25Speaker 2: different directions with it.
- 17:27Speaker 5: Yeah, it was part of a.
- 17:28Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a transcript up here right now, Ed.
- 17:31Speaker 4: So this is even without hearing the audio from McCarthy,
- 17:33Speaker 4: but it was like a 10 paragraph answer to a
- 17:37Speaker 4: question about this being a week to week league and
- 17:40Speaker 4: weathering the storm and the ups and downs of it.
- 17:44Speaker 4: And the part about cleaning their own house was kind
- 17:47Speaker 4: of sandwiched in the middle about, and it was included
- 17:50Speaker 4: in part of the answer that said, you know, we're
- 17:52Speaker 4: going to go about Tuesday in a certain way.
- 17:54Speaker 5: And, I get it. It's week five.
- 17:57Speaker 4: Then the part that you referenced last segment, you know,
- 18:00Speaker 4: it's tough to even find more than a few teams
- 18:02Speaker 4: that feel really good about.
- 18:03Speaker 5: Where they are right now.
- 18:05Speaker 4: And then the end of that answer was we're going
- 18:06Speaker 4: to stay after the focus of what we need to
- 18:08Speaker 4: work on. That's what this weekend was about for me,
- 18:10Speaker 4: and we've been working on it as a coaching staff,
- 18:12Speaker 4: and we'll have clear factors of what we need to
- 18:13Speaker 4: do as far as cleaning our house, and then we'll
- 18:16Speaker 4: get ready to go beat Indianapolis.
- 18:17Speaker 5: That's the plan.
- 18:18Speaker 4: So to me, I mean, it was a lot of
- 18:21Speaker 4: X's and O's probably cleaning up, but also– fundamentals. He
- 18:25Speaker 4: talked about that a lot Monday, too. He talked about
- 18:28Speaker 4: the fundamentals of tackling and the drill work, getting back
- 18:31Speaker 4: to the basics and focusing on that. But when someone
- 18:34Speaker 4: just takes the two sentence part of we have a
- 18:37Speaker 4: lot to clean up, you know, our house isn't clean
- 18:40Speaker 4: right now.
- 18:41Speaker 5: People who look at the Steelers.
- 18:43Speaker 4: From far outside of it, they're going to extrapolate that
- 18:47Speaker 4: into things that, you know, they interpret that and we
- 18:51Speaker 4: know that the joey porter jr saga just came to
- 18:54Speaker 4: an end last week and in a disappointing disheartening way
- 18:58Speaker 4: kind of for everybody and then they go out and
- 18:59Speaker 4: they fall to the browns and there's some frustration clearly
- 19:03Speaker 4: emanating from the sideline with tj watt and even and
- 19:06Speaker 4: we're going to hear from patrick graham on that shortly
- 19:07Speaker 4: and even from aaron rogers on the field but I
- 19:10Speaker 4: tend to think that's a lot of just kind of
- 19:12Speaker 4: what you see week in and week out with football teams.
- 19:15Speaker 1: I agree.
- 19:16Speaker 4: I mean, go back to the Travis Kelsey, Andy Reid
- 19:18Speaker 4: blow up in the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes is usually
- 19:21Speaker 4: very animated on the sideline. Peyton Manning was chewing out
- 19:25Speaker 4: teammates all the time. Tom Brady was chewing out teammates
- 19:28Speaker 4: all the time. So I don't like clutch my pearls
- 19:30Speaker 4: over a lot of that. And this is where my
- 19:32Speaker 4: rant comes in, and it's kind of a rant against myself,
- 19:35Speaker 4: I guess, in a way, for being on social media
- 19:37Speaker 4: and even seeing a lot of this stuff.
- 19:39Speaker 3: We're all part of that, buddy.
- 19:40Speaker 5: It seems like it.
- 19:41Speaker 4: Gets, at least with X, it just seems like it
- 19:44Speaker 4: gets worse and worse by the the year the season
- 19:47Speaker 4: the week the day there were a few instances of
- 19:50Speaker 4: this that i saw over the weekend that didn't have
- 19:52Speaker 4: anything to do with mike mccarthy's house cleaning comment and
- 19:56Speaker 4: the steelers there was one where tucker craft for the
- 19:59Speaker 4: packers their tight end veteran guy just got a new
- 20:02Speaker 4: contract everybody loves him in green bay somebody quote tweeted
- 20:06Speaker 4: his post-game interview in a win over the bucks and
- 20:09Speaker 4: said something about if I don't get the rock, it's
- 20:13Speaker 4: tough to do anything with it.
- 20:15Speaker 5: And that was the only part that was included.
- 20:16Speaker 4: So it makes you think, oh, wow, Tucker Kraft is
- 20:19Speaker 4: complaining about his targets or his touches or his receptions
- 20:23Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 20:24Speaker 5: Then you actually listen to the interview.
- 20:26Speaker 4: And he's saying that he had he said, here's the
- 20:28Speaker 4: quote that was brought up by someone. And it's some troll.
- 20:32Speaker 4: So don't get me wrong. But these things get picked
- 20:34Speaker 4: up by others and aggregated. It said, I can't do
- 20:36Speaker 4: anything with the rock if I don't get it. Well,
- 20:38Speaker 4: if you actually listen to the 25 second clip, he's
- 20:40Speaker 4: saying he needs to do a better job catching the ball.
- 20:42Speaker 5: He's talking about his own drops.
- 20:44Speaker 3: So he's criticizing himself.
- 20:45Speaker 5: He's criticizing himself. But when you pull out one sentence of.
- 20:48Speaker 3: It, it sounds like he's not happy. He's not getting correct.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Then there was another one. Cardinals rookie running back Jeremiah Love.
- 20:54Speaker 4: I think he was like a third or fourth pick
- 20:55Speaker 4: in the draft this year.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Top pick.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Someone pulled out his postgame interview from they went and
- 20:59Speaker 4: they lost to the Giants on the road. And it
- 21:01Speaker 4: said this is the quote that was highlighted on Twitter
- 21:04Speaker 4: was this is going to be the longest year of
- 21:06Speaker 4: my life.
- 21:08Speaker 5: All right.
- 21:08Speaker 4: That makes you think, man, he knows the Cardinals are
- 21:11Speaker 4: are in for a three, four, maybe five win season.
- 21:15Speaker 5: And he just came out and said it.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Wow.
- 21:16Speaker 5: Why would he say something like that?
- 21:18Speaker 4: If you watch that whole clip, he's talking about how
- 21:21Speaker 4: going from college to the combine, to the draft, to
- 21:26Speaker 4: rookie minicamp, OTAs and training camp, that's a fairly common
- 21:29Speaker 4: thing among rookies. That rookie season is the longest season
- 21:32Speaker 4: you'll ever have. There's not really a lot of downtime.
- 21:35Speaker 4: You hit the accelerator from the bowl season into pre-draft process,
- 21:40Speaker 4: and then there's no rest for the weary as you
- 21:41Speaker 4: get into the flow of things with your NFL team.
- 21:44Speaker 5: But you pull out that one piece.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Obviously, people are going to put say one and one
- 21:49Speaker 4: equals two, the Cardinals stink, he knows it. Man, this
- 21:52Speaker 4: guy's miserable after his first month with his NFL team.
- 21:55Speaker 4: Then there was one with the Eagles and their former player,
- 21:58Speaker 4: Brandon Graham, who's retired, and I guess he's on one
- 22:01Speaker 4: of eight billion Eagles podcasts, said that, well, he was
- 22:04Speaker 4: talking about Lane Johnson, who was inactive for their game
- 22:07Speaker 4: the other day.
- 22:08Speaker 5: He was kind of a late scratch, personal reasons.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Some Eagles account said Brandon Graham just said on his
- 22:13Speaker 4: podcast that Lane Johnson's contemplating retirement immediately. So everybody saw
- 22:18Speaker 4: that without listening to it themselves, took it, ran with it,
- 22:22Speaker 4: widespread panic in Bird's Nation out there. If you actually
- 22:25Speaker 4: listen to it, and I'm thankful for the people who
- 22:29Speaker 4: tweet out the entire thing, clips in context and then
- 22:32Speaker 4: you can figure in context you can make up your
- 22:34Speaker 4: own mind you can do the crazy thing of listen
- 22:36Speaker 4: to something yourself.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Actually let it swirl around in that big old brain
- 22:40Speaker 2: of yours remember some of us don't have patience to
- 22:43Speaker 2: do that.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Yeah and that's all that's all part of the societal
- 22:45Speaker 4: however i never report anything without listening this is all
- 22:47Speaker 4: part of the societal clip culture that we're in and
- 22:50Speaker 4: it like i said it seems to get worse every
- 22:53Speaker 4: day every year agreed And like he talked about how
- 22:56Speaker 4: he hates he would hate to see Lane Johnson go
- 22:58Speaker 4: out like this with personal issues and that he wants
- 23:00Speaker 4: to see him get back soon because this is going
- 23:02Speaker 4: to be his last year. So, yeah, I mean, maybe
- 23:05Speaker 4: he meant that he's considering his former teammates considering retirement.
- 23:09Speaker 4: But that was hardly the spirit of his answer and
- 23:13Speaker 4: what got aggregated. And, you know, once it's out into
- 23:17Speaker 4: the interwebs, you know, it just takes on a life
- 23:20Speaker 4: of its own. And that's kind of, I guess, a
- 23:21Speaker 4: little of what's happening here. with the McCarthy quote, but
- 23:24Speaker 4: it just, it really bugs me because here's, I think
- 23:27Speaker 4: two things are bad about these out of context sort
- 23:30Speaker 4: of tweets or snippets of interviews, excerpts, whatever.
- 23:35Speaker 5: I get it. It's, it's social media.
- 23:37Speaker 4: You can't always type up all 400 words of Mike
- 23:39Speaker 4: McCarthy's answer or whatever it was, but I think we
- 23:42Speaker 4: can all be a little bit more responsible if you're
- 23:44Speaker 4: not trying to click bait and get people riled up
- 23:47Speaker 4: and get that engagement farming is really what it is.
- 23:50Speaker 4: But two bad things happen here. Obviously on its face,
- 23:53Speaker 4: You're kind of being disingenuous to the speaker here who
- 23:57Speaker 4: had a longer answer and you take out one small
- 24:00Speaker 4: part of it. And, you know, now it's it's the
- 24:03Speaker 4: thing that everybody's homing in on. And then the second
- 24:05Speaker 4: part is when people do say things that are outlandish
- 24:09Speaker 4: or they're trying to to make an incendiary statement. And
- 24:13Speaker 4: then they try to walk it back. Now they have
- 24:15Speaker 4: a leg to stand on with. Oh, they took me
- 24:16Speaker 4: out of context, just like this guy or that guy
- 24:18Speaker 4: or this guy. Like it makes the whole media apparatus
- 24:21Speaker 4: seem dishonest.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Then you wonder why you're getting two or three word answers.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Correct.
- 24:26Speaker 3: For instance, C.J.
- 24:28Speaker 4: Gardner Johnson for the Bills defense after their loss to
- 24:30Speaker 4: the Patriots. He came out and said after the game.
- 24:34Speaker 4: I think Efton Chisholm III made the big catch. Did
- 24:37Speaker 4: you see that catch by him, by the way?
- 24:38Speaker 3: It was insane.
- 24:38Speaker 5: It was insane.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Yes.
- 24:40Speaker 5: But C.J.
- 24:40Speaker 4: Gardner-Johnson comes out after the game when the Bills reporters
- 24:43Speaker 4: are asking him about defensive struggles, giving up 29 points
- 24:46Speaker 4: or whatever it was, the New England at home in
- 24:48Speaker 4: your first loss. And he's kind of talking crazy, like
- 24:51Speaker 4: a practice squad guy made a good play. What do
- 24:53Speaker 4: you want me to say? He made the play of
- 24:54Speaker 4: his life. It's not a big deal. There's nothing out
- 24:57Speaker 4: of context about that. He just decided to... pretty much
- 25:01Speaker 4: be a sore loser after going down in flames defensively
- 25:05Speaker 4: to Drake May and Efton Chisholm III. And, you know,
- 25:08Speaker 4: somebody like that, I mean, you know what you're doing.
- 25:10Speaker 4: And there's no dishonest take there from the media. They're
- 25:14Speaker 4: just taking what you said, which was kind of a
- 25:16Speaker 4: dumb thing to say probably by him, or at least
- 25:18Speaker 4: a brash thing to say for that matter. And Vrabel
- 25:21Speaker 4: responded to it yesterday and everything. So there's just very,
- 25:24Speaker 4: there's different situations there. I just hate to see all this. Yeah,
- 25:28Speaker 4: really engagement farming is what it is. And it seems
- 25:30Speaker 4: like that, is winning more than responsible reporting and information
- 25:36Speaker 4: dispersing is winning.
- 25:37Speaker 5: But OK, I think that's the end of my diatribe. No,
- 25:39Speaker 5: you're good.
- 25:40Speaker 3: I actually enjoyed it. It's, you know, you hit the
- 25:42Speaker 3: nail on the head, Double B.
- 25:44Speaker 2: And that's why I've said for years, even before I
- 25:46Speaker 2: was on SNR or on this show with you and
- 25:49Speaker 2: doing this here in the last year, even back and
- 25:51Speaker 2: I'm doing my own personal podcast and I would have
- 25:54Speaker 2: somebody like Bill Hillgrove on or I'd have a Jerry
- 25:57Speaker 2: Dulac or, you know, Mike Pursuit. I mean, guys that
- 26:01Speaker 2: Do this 100% for a living. Trust those sources. Trust
- 26:06Speaker 2: those media outlets. Those are the ones that are going
- 26:08Speaker 2: to have the answers for you, not these fly-by-the-day, Steelers
- 26:12Speaker 2: dot this, that, that, that, and this that are just
- 26:15Speaker 2: taking what you just said, Brian. They're going to take
- 26:17Speaker 2: a quote, a one-liner, and it's going to spread like wildfire.
- 26:21Speaker 2: And just to piggyback on your point for a second, too,
- 26:24Speaker 2: is Jalen Ramsey comes out and supports Joey Porter Jr., Well,
- 26:28Speaker 2: they just spent two seasons together, right? The grind of
- 26:32Speaker 2: an NFL season on or off the practice field. I'm
- 26:35Speaker 2: sure Jalen Ramsey became a mentor, and rightfully so for
- 26:38Speaker 2: Joey Porter Jr. So it's a business at the end
- 26:40Speaker 2: of the day.
- 26:40Speaker 5: Joey Porter Jr.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Had cleats from Jalen Ramsey from when his dad coached
- 26:45Speaker 4: in the Pro Bowl one year and told him, you're
- 26:47Speaker 4: my kid's favorite player. So, yeah, this is a longstanding
- 26:51Speaker 4: brotherhood relationship.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Why is he not going to be happy for him?
- 26:54Speaker 2: And he understands the business part of this.
- 26:55Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, it's a business.
- 26:57Speaker 3: It's an entertainment for us.
- 26:59Speaker 5: Yeah, that's actually what I was going to say. I
- 27:00Speaker 5: get it. It is entertainment.
- 27:01Speaker 4: So everybody's got their place in this media ecosystem, even
- 27:04Speaker 4: the blogs that annoy me with the clickbait headlines and
- 27:09Speaker 4: pulling out little things. It's fun when guys say stuff
- 27:13Speaker 4: that gets you going. I guarantee we're going to go
- 27:16Speaker 4: beat this team. That stuff does make it fun sometimes,
- 27:18Speaker 4: but don't put words in people's mouth or make it
- 27:22Speaker 4: out to be something that it isn't. Then you're just
- 27:24Speaker 4: being irresponsible, I think, and you're abusing trust with these
- 27:28Speaker 4: guys too.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Listen, I bleed black and gold just like many of
- 27:31Speaker 2: you out there listening. I'm a Steeler Yinzer from inside
- 27:35Speaker 2: and out, and I love doing this every day and
- 27:38Speaker 2: talking to our fans out there. And it was hard
- 27:40Speaker 2: to see Joey Porter Sr. in a Dallas Cowboys jersey
- 27:43Speaker 2: celebrating on Sunday.
- 27:46Speaker 3: It's his son. If you have kids out there, you
- 27:49Speaker 3: know it.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Listen, if my son would go on and play in
- 27:53Speaker 2: the NFL one day, my goodness, which would never happen,
- 27:56Speaker 2: but if it happens, it might. He plays for the
- 27:58Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Even though I bleed black and gold, and
- 28:01Speaker 2: I still will, I will probably have a Browns jersey
- 28:03Speaker 2: on for the first time in my life because it's
- 28:05Speaker 2: your son.
- 28:05Speaker 5: It's your kid.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Sometimes you got to take a step back. Sometimes it's
- 28:10Speaker 3: hard to stomach.
- 28:10Speaker 5: I get it.
- 28:11Speaker 3: We're all passionate.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Brian, as I said earlier, it's an emotional game, but
- 28:15Speaker 2: Trust your sources, guys out there.
- 28:17Speaker 6: Absolutely.
- 28:18Speaker 5: That's the whole theme. Trust your sources.
- 28:19Speaker 4: My only thought really on that topic specifically is like,
- 28:21Speaker 4: you know, is the relationship probably a little bit strained
- 28:25Speaker 4: right now? Yeah, I would think so. I mean, a
- 28:27Speaker 4: business deal just fell through. That goes for any walk
- 28:31Speaker 4: of life. It might take some time to heal some
- 28:33Speaker 4: wounds for people.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Happens in real estate.
- 28:35Speaker 4: It happens with family and business all the time, whether
- 28:39Speaker 4: you're in the football industry or any other space, really,
- 28:43Speaker 4: that you work in. You know, you do deals with
- 28:46Speaker 4: and everybody's like family when you come into an NFL team.
- 28:49Speaker 4: But the porters were really family with the Steelers, literally.
- 28:53Speaker 4: So and maybe it'll heal over time.
- 28:55Speaker 5: Maybe it won't. But I just I kind of hate
- 28:57Speaker 5: to see.
- 28:57Speaker 4: And I don't like when people feel the need to
- 29:00Speaker 4: fan the flames or stoke the fire either. And I
- 29:03Speaker 4: guess that is kind of part of this entire bigger,
- 29:06Speaker 4: all encompassing conversation that I'm having here.
- 29:09Speaker 5: But it is kind of separate, too.
- 29:11Speaker 2: So.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Anyway, we kind of ran out of time for Patrick Graham,
- 29:13Speaker 4: but I guess we could hit him with the next segment.
- 29:15Speaker 3: We did, and yes, we can do that. Coming up next,
- 29:18Speaker 3: we will hear from Patrick Graham.
- 29:19Speaker 4: I bet you Patrick Graham is going to have some
- 29:20Speaker 4: sound bites that if you clip a two-second snippet of it,
- 29:25Speaker 4: will sound a lot more exaggerated or profound and significant
- 29:32Speaker 4: and meaningful than if you take his entire answer.
- 29:34Speaker 2: It's however you want to spin it, I guess, One
- 29:37Speaker 2: thing we don't do, we're not spinning things here.
- 29:39Speaker 5: People always associate.
- 29:40Speaker 4: The spin machine with positive stuff from a team or
- 29:44Speaker 4: an elected official even, but the spin machine often works
- 29:47Speaker 4: from the negative side of things in life too, whether
- 29:51Speaker 4: it's sports or... politics or anything.
- 29:55Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, for sure.
- 29:56Speaker 2: But we're not spinning things here. We're here for Steelers Nation.
- 29:58Speaker 2: That's why we're on Steelers Nation Radio.
- 30:00Speaker 4: You know I'm not in a bad mood because I
- 30:01Speaker 4: got the self-checkout this morning. I wasn't waiting. It's not
- 30:04Speaker 4: like the self-checkout machine was down. So I'm in a
- 30:07Speaker 4: fine mood. This has just been... been bugging me since
- 30:11Speaker 4: uh my last scroll i guess i'm glad and again
- 30:14Speaker 4: i need to stop scrolling maybe that's part.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Of it well that is a big part of it
- 30:16Speaker 3: you got to get.
- 30:17Speaker 4: Your information somehow i just wish a lot of people
- 30:19Speaker 4: would go the extra mile to get a little bit
- 30:21Speaker 4: more information right so that you can before you make yourself.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Call yes i'm with you i agree well having said
- 30:27Speaker 2: all that whenever we come back we will hear from
- 30:29Speaker 2: defensive coordinator patrick graham from yesterday as well as if
- 30:33Speaker 2: we have time we'll try to sneak in coach angelico
- 30:35Speaker 2: as well maybe Coach Danny Crossman from Special Teams, he
- 30:38Speaker 2: talked about how the Steelers need to get a little
- 30:39Speaker 2: bit better on.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Their return game, which I agree with, among other things.
- 30:44Speaker 2: And then again, coming up here at 3 o'clock today,
- 30:46Speaker 2: it's our top 10 moments from Steelers, Browns, and yes,
- 30:49Speaker 2: Steelers Nation. We have some Steeler moments for you. They
- 30:52Speaker 2: came back in the game. They did make our list,
- 30:54Speaker 2: as well as that ending, too. We have to report
- 30:57Speaker 2: that because that's what happened. And at the tail end
- 30:59Speaker 2: of the show, we'll get into some NFL news from
- 31:01Speaker 2: around the league going into week five.
- 31:03Speaker 3: I'm E.T. He's B.B.
- 31:05Speaker 2: It's the Steelers report right here on Steelers Nation Radio,
- 31:08Speaker 2: part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 31:16Speaker 1: This is the Steelers report with Brian Bacco and Ed
- 31:20Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 31:24Speaker 1: Audio Network.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Man, time flies when you're having fun. Wrapping up hour
- 31:28Speaker 2: number one here on The Report for today. And again,
- 31:33Speaker 2: coming up here at the top of the hour, 3 o'clock,
- 31:35Speaker 2: we will have our top ten moments for you from Steelers-Browns.
- 31:40Speaker 2: And then, Brian, we can officially put a bow or
- 31:43Speaker 2: whatever you want to put on it from week four.
- 31:46Speaker 2: And we can completely... turn our attentions to the Indianapolis Colts.
- 31:49Speaker 4: That was another part of Mike McCarthy's presser Monday was
- 31:51Speaker 4: he said that he would typically use that Tuesday coming
- 31:55Speaker 4: off the mini-bye as an extra day for the opponent,
- 31:58Speaker 4: a bonus day to prep for your next foe, but
- 32:01Speaker 4: he was like, no, we've got to use this on
- 32:02Speaker 4: ourselves right now. That's how he felt coming out of
- 32:05Speaker 4: that loss to the Browns, and I can't say I
- 32:07Speaker 4: blame him, especially with some new faces about the cycle
- 32:11Speaker 4: through here on, I mean, mainly, I guess, on the
- 32:14Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball, but he was asked about
- 32:17Speaker 4: Rico Dowdle and, uh, and, and, you know, what his
- 32:20Speaker 4: next situation is, his status is going to be. And
- 32:24Speaker 4: he said that they do want to see some of
- 32:25Speaker 4: those running backs, uh, behind Jalen Warren get involved more.
- 32:28Speaker 4: Maybe Brian Angelico said that, but yeah, obviously we know the, uh,
- 32:32Speaker 4: the backfield is kind of up in the air right now,
- 32:35Speaker 4: depending on the status of Dowdle's toe injury, man.
- 32:38Speaker 5: Have you ever hurt your toe?
- 32:40Speaker 4: I know I mentioned this on the show before, like
- 32:41Speaker 4: we talked about this last week, just always sounds like
- 32:43Speaker 4: such a wimpy injury, but man, if you, bang your
- 32:46Speaker 4: toe on something. That's like one injury that I can
- 32:49Speaker 4: relate with. I saw that Paris Johnson from the Cardinals
- 32:52Speaker 4: is going to miss the rest of the season with
- 32:54Speaker 4: a torn triceps, I think. And I'm like, I don't
- 32:57Speaker 4: think I could lift enough weight or do anything with
- 32:59Speaker 4: enough strength to tear a bicep or tricep, knock on wood,
- 33:04Speaker 4: or pec. You know, you see guys go down with
- 33:06Speaker 4: a torn pec all the time.
- 33:07Speaker 3: That's a bad one.
- 33:07Speaker 4: Let alone the soft tissue stuff. My muscles do not
- 33:10Speaker 4: fire off. They don't twitch enough in a way that
- 33:12Speaker 4: I could even pull a hamstring, I don't think. So
- 33:15Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about that, but at least
- 33:17Speaker 4: I can relate to a toe.
- 33:18Speaker 3: Well, you're not 40 yet, my friend, so let me
- 33:20Speaker 3: tell you.
- 33:20Speaker 5: I think I was born that way.
- 33:22Speaker 2: When you pass that 40 mark. Well, maybe, but I'm
- 33:25Speaker 2: telling you, out there listening, people know what I'm talking about.
- 33:28Speaker 2: When you get on the other side of that 40 mark,
- 33:30Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Things will start to tear. Things
- 33:33Speaker 2: will start to happen. And you have no clue how
- 33:35Speaker 2: it happened. I was just talking to my buddy Mike
- 33:36Speaker 2: about this this past weekend. I probably just jinxed myself
- 33:38Speaker 2: so bad with that tape.
- 33:40Speaker 3: You definitely did. I mean, some days I'm like, wait
- 33:42Speaker 3: a minute, why is my shoulder hurt?
- 33:43Speaker 5: What did I do? I didn't do anything. That's like
- 33:46Speaker 5: a soreness.
- 33:47Speaker 4: I more so mean like I can barely jump off
- 33:50Speaker 4: the ground with my athleticism or lack thereof. So I
- 33:54Speaker 4: don't need to worry about pulling a calf muscle, hopefully.
- 33:58Speaker 5: Again, knock on wood, hamstring, groin. Achilles just sounds.
- 34:02Speaker 4: Like the absolute worst thing, and I know people who
- 34:05Speaker 4: have hurt their Achilles. That just sounds so miserable.
- 34:08Speaker 3: But you're still hooping each week, right?
- 34:10Speaker 5: Yeah, I play, but I'm not exactly getting rim.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you don't have to.
- 34:15Speaker 5: Board slapping.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Just make those threes, man. Just hit those threes. You'll survive.
- 34:19Speaker 3: All right, let's finally get to defensive.
- 34:21Speaker 5: I move better laterally than vertically.
- 34:23Speaker 3: Well, you know what? A lot of us do. That's
- 34:25Speaker 3: for sure.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Let's get to defensive coordinator Patrick Graham. who spoke to
- 34:30Speaker 2: the media yesterday. We always love hearing from Coach Graham.
- 34:36Speaker 6: I think just naturally, I'm just trying to think about
- 34:38Speaker 6: how to get the quarterback on the ground first. And
- 34:40Speaker 6: then from there, the coverage, because the coverage plays so
- 34:43Speaker 6: much into both the run in the past, how we're defending.
- 34:46Speaker 6: It's not just the past coverage in terms of the
- 34:48Speaker 6: structure of the defense. So I probably would say it's
- 34:52Speaker 6: probably a mix of both in terms of what we're
- 34:53Speaker 6: going to end up doing for this week. But again,
- 34:56Speaker 6: for this group that we're going to see on Sunday,
- 34:59Speaker 6: you know, it starts with the running back, really, and
- 35:01Speaker 6: then from there to the pieces in terms of the
- 35:03Speaker 6: passing game, so a lot of our focus is going
- 35:06Speaker 6: to be on how to limit Taylor in terms of
- 35:08Speaker 6: what he's going to try to do. How do you
- 35:10Speaker 6: think Everett's handling an increased workload?
- 35:12Speaker 2: He's been good.
- 35:13Speaker 6: He's been good. I mean, he doesn't blink, you know,
- 35:15Speaker 6: just in terms of, you know, out there, a lot
- 35:17Speaker 6: of confidence. You know, he's gaining a lot of experience
- 35:23Speaker 6: from those plays, and that's going to be the best
- 35:25Speaker 6: teacher for him, aside from what we do in the
- 35:27Speaker 6: classroom and in practice, so I think he's handling it well.
- 35:31Speaker 3: You've got to like what head coach.
- 35:33Speaker 2: Well, you always like to hear what head coach of
- 35:35Speaker 2: the defense, pretty much. He is the head coach of
- 35:36Speaker 2: the defense. You like to hear what head coach Mike
- 35:38Speaker 2: McCarthy says, too. But what defensive coordinator Patrick Graham says
- 35:41Speaker 2: about rookie Daylon Everett, something we spoke about here on
- 35:44Speaker 2: the show, Brian, because they're going to have to rely
- 35:46Speaker 2: on him now.
- 35:46Speaker 3: You know, Joey Porter Jr. moving on.
- 35:49Speaker 2: Not even so much maybe in 2026, which they will,
- 35:51Speaker 2: but beyond 2026.
- 35:52Speaker 3: So what he just spoke to, he's.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Getting on-field training now. He's going to get those bugs
- 35:58Speaker 2: worked out now on the field. And as he said,
- 36:00Speaker 2: he can learn a lot more doing that than anywhere else.
- 36:03Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's always like a debate, I think, with
- 36:06Speaker 4: any rookie. You usually hear it about quarterbacks, but it
- 36:09Speaker 4: could apply to cornerbacks as well in really any spot.
- 36:12Speaker 5: Is it better?
- 36:13Speaker 4: And I think we had a lot of this discussion
- 36:14Speaker 4: about Maxi Honachor coming into the season. Is it better
- 36:18Speaker 4: for a guy to learn and watch from the sideline,
- 36:20Speaker 4: or is there no substitute for experience? Those are the
- 36:23Speaker 4: two obvious kind of competing factors when you talk about
- 36:29Speaker 4: developing any rookie, and it's not one-size-fits-all. I don't think
- 36:32Speaker 4: there's any cookie-cutter approach. Some quarterbacks might benefit from slotting
- 36:37Speaker 4: in there week one, but the NFL— Annals are littered
- 36:44Speaker 4: with guys who probably got thrown in too early before
- 36:47Speaker 4: they were ready. Let's hope that Daylon Everett is ready
- 36:49Speaker 4: sooner than later as far as talking about the 2026
- 36:51Speaker 4: Steelers secondary.
- 36:54Speaker 6: Well, first thing is, you know, address it with the
- 36:56Speaker 6: group and just tell them, you know, just point it
- 36:59Speaker 6: out how we're missing the tackles, you know, in terms of,
- 37:03Speaker 6: you know, if it's one-two, if it's just in terms
- 37:06Speaker 6: of the angles, techniques on the wrap. things of that nature.
- 37:10Speaker 6: And then from there, it's our job as coaches, how
- 37:12Speaker 6: do we drill it? How do we drill it? And
- 37:15Speaker 6: obviously we're not going to do live tackling. That's not
- 37:17Speaker 6: going to be something we're going to do during the season,
- 37:20Speaker 6: but we got to find a way to drill it
- 37:21Speaker 6: so they can improve and give them some true evidence
- 37:24Speaker 6: in terms of seeing improvement. So that's been something we've
- 37:27Speaker 6: gone through in terms of just self-scouting this little mini buy,
- 37:30Speaker 6: just where can we get better and where can we
- 37:33Speaker 6: get guys in better places, even schematically, just to help
- 37:36Speaker 6: aid with that because, again, whether it's the space tackles
- 37:39Speaker 6: and the screens, making sure we're tackling the quarterback, we
- 37:43Speaker 6: just got to tack it full on and just find
- 37:46Speaker 6: ways to drill it. That's the thing we have to
- 37:49Speaker 6: do as coaches.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Double B, it's something we spoke about right after the
- 37:52Speaker 2: game last week and even yesterday here on the show
- 37:55Speaker 2: about how many missed tackles the Steelers had last week,
- 37:57Speaker 2: and I said it. The good news was exactly what
- 37:59Speaker 2: Coach Graham just said. It's something that you can work
- 38:02Speaker 2: on and correct. during practice in a week, even with
- 38:04Speaker 2: no contact. There's drills, there's other ways, but they have
- 38:07Speaker 2: to clean.
- 38:07Speaker 3: So you're going to clean up your house. We just
- 38:09Speaker 3: did a whole segment on cleaning up your house.
- 38:11Speaker 2: They have to do that. They have to tackle better
- 38:13Speaker 2: starting this week against the Colts.
- 38:15Speaker 4: I hate to say this, and it's not something any
- 38:17Speaker 4: football coach would ever want to hear, but my personal
- 38:20Speaker 4: kind of view on it is like, these guys are
- 38:23Speaker 4: in the NFL. I mean, you can do drill work
- 38:25Speaker 4: and you can remind them of where the feet need
- 38:28Speaker 4: to be and All that.
- 38:30Speaker 5: But it's going to just come down to execution.
- 38:32Speaker 4: Like Patrick Graham said, you're not going to turn them
- 38:34Speaker 4: loose on each other out there on the practice field
- 38:37Speaker 4: and say, hey, for every for every missed tackle, you know,
- 38:40Speaker 4: we're docking your paycheck like that. It doesn't work that way.
- 38:43Speaker 4: You just need to go out there and do it.
- 38:45Speaker 4: All of these dudes, all of these rookies or Cam Hayward.
- 38:48Speaker 4: who's in year 73, they've made hundreds of tackles in
- 38:52Speaker 4: their life.
- 38:53Speaker 5: Got to execute. Maybe not at the NFL level.
- 38:55Speaker 4: Go back to guys like Daylon Everett or Robert Spears Jennings,
- 38:58Speaker 4: who has actually been a really sure tackler thus far
- 39:00Speaker 4: in his first season.
- 39:01Speaker 5: That's why he's on the field. Yeah, and could be
- 39:04Speaker 5: itching for more.
- 39:05Speaker 4: But they've all done it, and again, you can't really
- 39:08Speaker 4: work on it.
- 39:08Speaker 5: It's such a physical skill. It's such a physical.
- 39:12Speaker 4: Trait that you need to do on Sundays or Thursdays that, like,
- 39:18Speaker 4: I get it. Coaches need to have some sort of
- 39:20Speaker 4: answer for it, but even the motivation part of it,
- 39:22Speaker 4: it's like a guy knows that he needs to make
- 39:25Speaker 4: a tackle. like it's a little different than hey you
- 39:26Speaker 4: need to pick up this blitzer on this game stunt
- 39:29Speaker 4: so yeah you you got to answer the question somehow
- 39:33Speaker 4: but i feel like it boils.
- 39:34Speaker 5: Down to just the guy's got to go out there
- 39:36Speaker 5: and do it.
- 39:39Speaker 6: For me just you know this is it was week
- 39:41Speaker 6: four right week four of the season And, you know,
- 39:44Speaker 6: we're getting to know these guys in the heat of
- 39:46Speaker 6: the battle. I think I said it at one of
- 39:47Speaker 6: my early press conferences. I wanted to see what would
- 39:49Speaker 6: happen when adversity hit and just see how we're going
- 39:53Speaker 6: to react and see how we're going to react to
- 39:55Speaker 6: it as a group. Respond to it is a better word,
- 39:58Speaker 6: as a group. And, you know, it's bound to happen.
- 40:02Speaker 6: People always talk about it's an emotional game. We're emotional people. So,
- 40:05Speaker 6: to me, I encourage the emotions in terms of I
- 40:09Speaker 6: want their full selves out there when they're playing, you know.
- 40:13Speaker 6: And then how we direct that and funnel that, I mean, again,
- 40:16Speaker 6: if there was a microphone on me every time or
- 40:18Speaker 6: a camera on me every time I'm reacting up there
- 40:21Speaker 6: in the box, I'm sure you guys would be wondering,
- 40:23Speaker 6: what the hell am I talking about? What am I
- 40:25Speaker 6: upset about? But for me, you know, I think as
- 40:28Speaker 6: we learn one another, and, you know, it's going to
- 40:30Speaker 6: be going into week five, I think this has been
- 40:32Speaker 6: a great learning experience. I really do. And I'm not
- 40:35Speaker 6: trying to sugarcoat it. I'm not trying to, you know,
- 40:38Speaker 6: make a bigger deal or a lesser deal of what
- 40:40Speaker 6: it is. But I know this, we talked about communication
- 40:44Speaker 6: a lot and how we communicate to one another. And
- 40:46Speaker 6: it's important that we, you know, we build these relationships
- 40:49Speaker 6: with one another so that when stuff gets said, whether
- 40:52Speaker 6: it's in the heat of the battle, that nobody's sensitive.
- 40:55Speaker 6: And that's the one thing I can appreciate and I
- 40:58Speaker 6: hope they can appreciate from me. Nobody's sensitive here. You know,
- 41:03Speaker 6: we deal with conflict head on and we'll give resolution
- 41:07Speaker 6: in terms of how we're going to go about fixing
- 41:09Speaker 6: things on that field because that's the most important thing.
- 41:11Speaker 6: That's the most important thing in it requires emotion. You know,
- 41:14Speaker 6: I was trying to get them riled up before the game, too.
- 41:16Speaker 6: I wanted, I mean, the first two series, I was
- 41:18Speaker 6: real pleased. I was like, here we go. This is
- 41:20Speaker 6: what I've been looking for, the way it started. And
- 41:22Speaker 6: then we hit some adversity and didn't finish the way
- 41:25Speaker 6: we wanted. And we got to get to the bottom
- 41:27Speaker 6: line of that and figure out how to avoid that
- 41:31Speaker 6: turn down the road. And with the men in that
- 41:34Speaker 6: room and the confidence I have in them, the confidence
- 41:36Speaker 6: I have with our coaches, the confidence I have And
- 41:39Speaker 6: Coach McCarthy, I mean, I think this is going to
- 41:41Speaker 6: be a small thing that's just, you know, we're going
- 41:44Speaker 6: to learn from it, move forward, and it's going to
- 41:46Speaker 6: be constructive. That's just my opinion.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Look, Brian, I've said it many a times. Football is
- 41:52Speaker 2: an emotional game. There's a lot of time. There's a
- 41:54Speaker 2: lot of effort that goes into it. And I've seen
- 41:56Speaker 2: it at the high school level that I cover every
- 41:58Speaker 2: Friday night for over 25 years. I've seen it at
- 42:00Speaker 2: the youth level with my sons who I've coached for many,
- 42:03Speaker 2: many years. You see it in the NFL on a
- 42:05Speaker 2: given Sunday. It's just how do you react to that
- 42:08Speaker 2: emotion and how do you bottle it up and then
- 42:10Speaker 2: be able to, you know, go on the football field
- 42:13Speaker 2: and be able to put that in a positive way
- 42:16Speaker 2: and not a negative way.
- 42:17Speaker 3: But it's bound to happen.
- 42:18Speaker 2: And the important part here is exactly what Coach Graham
- 42:21Speaker 2: just said. Take it for what it is and move on.
- 42:24Speaker 2: And you've got to appreciate the emotion at times because
- 42:26Speaker 2: the worst thing to do in the game of football
- 42:28Speaker 2: at any level is to have no emotion.
- 42:32Speaker 4: I think the key word there from Graham was the
- 42:34Speaker 4: last word constructive. That's really the goal. And I think
- 42:40Speaker 4: that goes for any coach player relationship and dynamic, but
- 42:44Speaker 4: especially I would imagine when you're having these tough conversations
- 42:48Speaker 4: with TJ Watt, Jalen Ramsey, Cam Hayward. I mean, all
- 42:54Speaker 4: three of those guys have seen so much football and,
- 42:57Speaker 4: They're all probably going to have a bronze bust someday,
- 43:00Speaker 4: about an hour and a half from where we're sitting
- 43:02Speaker 4: right now. Cam's up front. He's the leader of the D-line.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Patrick Graham's a D-line coach by trade. TJ, I mean,
- 43:12Speaker 4: he needs no sort of, like, endorsement. I mean, what
- 43:16Speaker 4: he's done in his career, but I'm just talking about
- 43:18Speaker 4: these first four games this season, he's been his sharpest mentally, physically.
- 43:22Speaker 1: Huge.
- 43:23Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's the engine of this team from a
- 43:26Speaker 4: pass rush. perspective always and then Ramsey on the back
- 43:29Speaker 4: end is like always see in the game through a
- 43:31Speaker 4: coach's eyes the way Minka Fitzpatrick used to I mean
- 43:34Speaker 4: those if that's like kind of your tribunal of Hawks
- 43:38Speaker 4: your your scouts your leaders for this defense I'm sure
- 43:42Speaker 4: that Graham embraces those conversations.
- 43:44Speaker 6: That twofold you know change some of the calls I
- 43:47Speaker 6: mean we can increase the man coverage you know that's
- 43:49Speaker 6: one thing and then to just understand the difference between
- 43:52Speaker 6: there's two to me there's two different types of zone
- 43:55Speaker 6: coverages there's Spot drop, where we're getting to our landmarks,
- 43:58Speaker 6: we're getting our eyes on the quarterback. We're all on
- 44:01Speaker 6: a string, we're tied together with that, and really you're
- 44:03Speaker 6: looking to punish any completions or underneath throws and discourage
- 44:07Speaker 6: that with violence at the point of a completion or
- 44:12Speaker 6: the guys coming out of the stack. So that's one.
- 44:14Speaker 6: Then there's match zone, where we get our eyes to
- 44:16Speaker 6: our matches, get a little bit tighter, and it causes
- 44:19Speaker 6: a little bit more confusion with the quarterback, but we're
- 44:21Speaker 6: able to pass things off. So for us, finding that
- 44:25Speaker 6: perfect balance... And then within the game, being able to adjust.
- 44:29Speaker 6: And that starts with me. I got to do a
- 44:31Speaker 6: better job with that. And, you know, that's going to happen.
- 44:35Speaker 2: Coach Patrick Graham, defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers, speaking
- 44:39Speaker 2: yesterday about, well, what happened in Cleveland last week, Double B.
- 44:44Speaker 2: And as you've said many a times, we always like
- 44:46Speaker 2: to hear from Coach Graham because, I don't know, he
- 44:48Speaker 2: kind of tells it like it is. He doesn't sugarcoat anything.
- 44:50Speaker 2: And while he shouldn't, here's what was on the field. And,
- 44:53Speaker 2: you know, again, you take away that second quarter. And
- 44:56Speaker 2: that's a big if. I understand that. That's what decided
- 44:58Speaker 2: the game. But if you take away that second quarter
- 45:01Speaker 2: Thursday night in Cleveland, Steelers defense, they made some plays
- 45:04Speaker 2: at times. I mean, it wasn't 21 points in one quarter.
- 45:07Speaker 2: Any NFL team is going to look at that, and
- 45:09Speaker 2: rightfully so, and say, look, that's not par for what
- 45:13Speaker 2: we need to do to win football games. But the
- 45:15Speaker 2: rest of the three quarters, look, there were some highlights there.
- 45:17Speaker 2: They got stops in the second half when they needed to.
- 45:19Speaker 4: And the offense wasn't making it easy on them. I mean,
- 45:21Speaker 4: three consecutive three and outs, I believe it was. So
- 45:23Speaker 4: they were getting– They were getting bombarded with scoring opportunities
- 45:28Speaker 4: for the Browns there in that second half. And for
- 45:30Speaker 4: the most part, they bent but didn't break until the end.
- 45:34Speaker 4: And all it took was the Schmidt field goal.
- 45:37Speaker 5: Schmidt happened.
- 45:39Speaker 3: We'll hear that Schmidt field goal whenever we come back.
- 45:41Speaker 2: We'll have our top 10 moments from Pittsburgh Steelers and
- 45:47Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. And at the tail end of the show,
- 45:49Speaker 2: we should have time. We'll also hear from Brian Angelico
- 45:52Speaker 2: and Danny Crossman. as well it is the Steelers report
- 45:56Speaker 2: that's going to do it for our number one I'm
- 45:58Speaker 2: Troop he's back oh it is the Steelers report right
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