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Love and Rockets Book Club #79 - V2 #9 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to the 22 Panels Love and Rockets Book Club. I'm joined from Australia by Maria, and from…
• 0:14
  Tad Eggleston: from… Just south of me? Well, rather than just north of me.
• 0:21
  Tad Eggleston: by Marisol.
• 0:23
  Marisol: Just a… just a little bit south.
• 0:26
  Tad Eggleston: I think you're… I think you're farther south of me than you used to be north of me, but still, like…
• 0:32
  Tad Eggleston: Not so far as to make it, like, at all significant.
• 0:37
  Tad Eggleston: And apparently, you're having a birthday this weekend. Are you turning some sort of cool number, or are you just 17 again?
• 0:48
  Marisol: Out of cool numbers for now. Just gonna be 32.
• 0:53
  Tad Eggleston: 32 is not a bad number. I mean, don't get me wrong, 31's a better number.
• 0:57
  Marisol: Yes.
• 0:58
  Tad Eggleston: Because 31 is the perfect number for artisan pitching.
• 1:05
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah. A lot of my favorite pitchers, and particularly the ones that are really good at, like, painting corners and just out-thinking hitters, wore number 31.
• 1:18
  Tad Eggleston: Greg Maddox, in particular. So… so that's… that's… that's… that's why 31's literally my favorite number.
• 1:25
  Marisol: That's why it's the best…
• 1:26
  Tad Eggleston: when I turned 32.
• 1:28
  Marisol: Aww.
• 1:30
  Maria Pena: Fuh.
• 1:32
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, Loving Rock is number 9. Number 9's another favorite number, because they're 9 innings in a baseball game, and Ted Williams was number 9. Now you're getting into my autistic numerology.
• 1:44
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 1:45
  Maria Pena: Heh!
• 1:46
  Marisol: We're learning.
• 1:46
  Tad Eggleston: I'll try to make it stop.
• 1:48
  Marisol: nerd.
• 1:50
  Tad Eggleston: I'll try to make it stop. Also, number 9… number 9… Number 9.
• 1:55
  Maria Pena: Alright, that's enough, Ted. That's enough, Ted.
• 1:59
  Tad Eggleston: Somebody's gotta tell me what I was quoting there, though.
• 2:03
  Marisol: I have no idea.
• 2:04
  Maria Pena: Oh.
• 2:05
  Maria Pena: I don't know.
• 2:06
  Tad Eggleston: That's Revolution 9 from the Beatles.
• 2:10
  Maria Pena: That's wild.
• 2:11
  Marisol: I don't know.
• 2:12
  Maria Pena: Okay, not.
• 2:14
  Marisol: I'm not huge on the Beatles, but…
• 2:15
  Tad Eggleston: That's sad? That's sad.
• 2:17
  Marisol: Lady?
• 2:19
  Maria Pena: Considering I'm the age where I should know more about this, although they are still older than me, you know, like, they're my…
• 2:26
  Tad Eggleston: I said.
• 2:27
  Maria Pena: Their brother's generation.
• 2:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, what was sad Marisol's not big on the Beatles.
• 2:33
  Maria Pena: What?
• 2:35
  Marisol: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that would be my favorite.
• 2:36
  Maria Pena: Must be a generation.
• 2:37
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's okay for them not to be your favorite.
• 2:40
  Tad Eggleston: I think it's almost reached a point where it's hard for them to be your favorite, because, like…
• 2:50
  Maria Pena: They sound old hat because all the new music is based on them, basically.
• 2:55
  Tad Eggleston: Right, I mean, there's that.
• 2:57
  Tad Eggleston: But, but also.
• 3:00
  Maria Pena: Or a little bit, mainly.
• 3:04
  Tad Eggleston: you can't ju… like, even when something is head and tail, I mean…
• 3:10
  Tad Eggleston: Let's use Love & Rockets as an example. Love and Rockets, for that matter, let's use your two book clubs as an example. Love and Rockets and Saga are great comics. How many comics will you put up against Love & Rockets and Saga among the ones that you've read?
• 3:26
  Marisol: Not many, because it's just.
• 3:28
  Maria Pena: Nope.
• 3:29
  Marisol: They're in a league of their own.
• 3:31
  Tad Eggleston: But you still read other comics, because if you only read Love and Rockets and Saga, you'd get bored eventually.
• 3:38
  Marisol: It's a very limited little… comic reading.
• 3:44
  Marisol: Right. It is.
• 3:46
  Tad Eggleston: So, I think…
• 3:47
  Tad Eggleston: I think part of the thing with the Beatles, it's twofold. First, they shone bright, but for a relatively short period of time. It's like a.
• 3:56
  Marisol: Bye for now.
• 3:57
  Tad Eggleston: albums.
• 3:58
  Tad Eggleston: Oh. And second, like…
• 4:01
  Tad Eggleston: Because they're so good, there is no era where they have not been in heavy rotation.
• 4:10
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 4:10
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 4:11
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 4:12
  Tad Eggleston: So, like…
• 4:15
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think, like, the current generation might be the first generation that has… that has managed to… to… to live a life where they weren't likely to hear a Beatles song every day.
• 4:26
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 4:27
  Tad Eggleston: Does that make sense?
• 4:29
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 4:29
  Maria Pena: Except for people in Liverpool, because I was in Liverpool last year.
• 4:33
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I'm certain they…
• 4:34
  Maria Pena: everywhere.
• 4:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 4:37
  Maria Pena: Like, every cafe.
• 4:38
  Tad Eggleston: Well, it'll be many, many, many more generations before they stop hearing Beatles songs every day.
• 4:44
  Maria Pena: Like, it was, like, so crazy. Like, you know, like, you'd go to a cafe and it'd be…
• 4:50
  Maria Pena: There'd be other music, but every few songs would be a Beatles song. Right. And, you know, everywhere, everywhere you went. It was crazy. And, you know, there's pictures of them everywhere, and…
• 5:01
  Tad Eggleston: You know, and I'm not gonna put it to the test with you, Marisol, unless you desperately want me to, because among other things, I'd have to get to know your actual musical taste better, but the Beatles are also one of those bands that, like.
• 5:15
  Tad Eggleston: You tell me you don't like the Beatles, but tell me what you do like, and I can make the CD of Beatles stuff that you'll love.
• 5:22
  Marisol: Oh, I'm sure!
• 5:23
  Tad Eggleston: You might not love all of the Beatles, but I can manage to put together
• 5:27
  Tad Eggleston: 80 minutes that you'll go.
• 5:29
  Marisol: Right.
• 5:29
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, okay, now I get it.
• 5:34
  Marisol: vibe!
• 5:39
  Tad Eggleston: You know, the Beatles are actually… and, like, this is how I'll tie it back into Love and Rockets, because Jaime in particular is like this as well.
• 5:50
  Tad Eggleston: Like… I use the Beatles in a discussion of genius that I sometimes have. Like, like, most artists…
• 6:00
  Tad Eggleston: Are thrilled if they can touch that… that… Upper-level, above-the-clouds genius.
• 6:09
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 6:10
  Tad Eggleston: -Oh.
• 6:12
  Tad Eggleston: Brian and Fiona have done it for Saga, but as great as Brian is, I don't know that any of his other comics have gone there.
• 6:20
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 6:21
  Tad Eggleston: David Bowie did it for a couple of albums, Ziggy Stardust, and… and… and… Right.
• 6:35
  Tad Eggleston: Maria, I'm certain you could give us a physical artist and a couple of, you know, that has a couple of paintings that are just outstanding, and the rest of their stuff is very good, but not as good as…
• 6:47
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 6:49
  Tad Eggleston: you know.
• 6:51
  Tad Eggleston: The Beatles had, like, 2 albums that were very good, and then lived in that upper stratosphere for the next 10 albums.
• 6:59
  Marisol: Wow.
• 6:59
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 7:01
  Tad Eggleston: It was almost every album was better than the last for 10 albums, and, like, the first of those 10 albums was better than 90% of…
• 7:13
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 7:14
  Maria Pena: That's crazy. Oh, yeah.
• 7:16
  Tad Eggleston: that have been made. You know what I mean?
• 7:19
  Maria Pena: Until then, yeah. It was so different from everything, and…
• 7:23
  Tad Eggleston: Right. Love it.
• 7:24
  Maria Pena: And, you know, classic songs, album of classic songs, every album, it's like, there's no… there's hardly any bad singles, so, like, yep, that's it. Right.
• 7:35
  Tad Eggleston: They're often… they're often albums of singles that also play well as albums. They don't sound like great… you know how a Greatest Hits album doesn't always play well if you just…
• 7:46
  Tad Eggleston: play it start to finish, because it's just hits, and they don't necessarily… like, all of the Beatles albums play as albums, but they're also filled with.
• 7:56
  Maria Pena: hits.
• 7:57
  Tad Eggleston: Banger singles.
• 7:59
  Maria Pena: Hasn hits yet.
• 8:01
  Tad Eggleston: You know, and we'll now tie it to Love & Rockets. I, like, Marie and I were talking a little bit before you got here about the difference between Jaime and…
• 8:11
  Tad Eggleston: And…
• 8:13
  Maria Pena: I'm betting.
• 8:13
  Tad Eggleston: And aside from the fact that Beto can be just looser to do more storytelling, he clearly works faster. I mean, we also get way more work out of him.
• 8:26
  Maria Pena: And really good stories, I bet there's…
• 8:28
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 8:28
  Maria Pena: scripts, he's, like, he's a…
• 8:33
  Maria Pena: You know, like, the depth of his, psychology of his characters and stuff is just crazy, you know, like, it's just so different, so amazing.
• 8:42
  Tad Eggleston: But what I would say…
• 8:44
  Tad Eggleston: like, comparing them, particularly until this stage, but I think it really kind of holds over until now.
• 8:51
  Tad Eggleston: like… Beto touches that stratosphere. Like, human diastrophism was in that upper stratosphere.
• 9:01
  Marisol: Oh, absolutely.
• 9:02
  Tad Eggleston: was in that upper stratosphere. Like… Jaime?
• 9:09
  Tad Eggleston: Like, those first 3 issues where he still was messing around with the… the solar… pro-solar mechanics and whatnot, that's the only time that he hasn't been in the upper stratosphere.
• 9:23
  Tad Eggleston: you know, as soon as he started Death of Speedy, He just never looked down.
• 9:30
  Tad Eggleston: Does that make sense?
• 9:32
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 9:33
  Tad Eggleston: Whereas Beto goes up there a lot, and he always floats high, but he also, like, rather than refining his own style and taking his influences and feeding them into his style, he'll occasionally just do something different.
• 9:49
  Tad Eggleston: you know, who'll go… I mean, like, Stigmata errata is almost completely different art from any of the… Palomar.
• 9:59
  Tad Eggleston: You know, and there are other examples of that, where Beto's just like, let's try this today.
• 10:07
  Tad Eggleston: You know, I mean, it's way in the future, but he did a series recently called Blubber that's all, like.
• 10:15
  Tad Eggleston: Weird monster stuff.
• 10:18
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 10:18
  Tad Eggleston: And you can kind of tell that it's Beto, but it's also Beto… Trying something very, very different.
• 10:25
  Tad Eggleston: You know?
• 10:27
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 10:29
  Tad Eggleston: So, Lovin' Rockets, Volume 2, Number 9. Oh my god, is this cover.
• 10:37
  Maria Pena: Discoveries.
• 10:39
  Maria Pena: Incredible. I love the… Love it.
• 10:42
  Maria Pena: I mean, it's easy, right?
• 10:44
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 10:45
  Maria Pena: Now, I assume it's easy, and I love the hair just streaking down through… I mean, it's just amazing, like…
• 10:53
  Marisol: Just the googlish look of her.
• 10:58
  Marisol: Cool.
• 10:59
  Tad Eggleston: The scars…
• 11:01
  Maria Pena: And, like, the contrast between her, her kind of… You know, dark, moody…
• 11:08
  Maria Pena: Kind of body and all this, and she's looking at this,
• 11:12
  Tad Eggleston: bright.
• 11:13
  Maria Pena: suburban fast food restaurant, and maybe she's hungry, I don't know what's going on, but maybe she needs a snack.
• 11:23
  Tad Eggleston: Here's my question, like…
• 11:26
  Tad Eggleston: Are we supposed to assume that that's somebody in the restaurant, or do you think that that's just a character? Because it could…
• 11:33
  Tad Eggleston: Almost?
• 11:34
  Maria Pena: It kind of looks like Jaime.
• 11:37
  Tad Eggleston: Like I said.
• 11:38
  Marisol: Thank you.
• 11:39
  Tad Eggleston: I was about to say, it could almost… B…
• 11:42
  Tad Eggleston: Hopi, and it could almost be…
• 11:45
  Maria Pena: Bye.
• 11:47
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 11:47
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's definitely not happy, because it's someone with curly hair or something, but…
• 11:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 11:52
  Maria Pena: It's a guy. It's just… I think it's just a random guy, really.
• 11:59
  Tad Eggleston: It's not too often that doing just the perfect circle yellow full moon makes me, like, really…
• 12:07
  Tad Eggleston: I think it's perfect, but, like, it is.
• 12:10
  Tad Eggleston: Because the way the sky… I mean, like…
• 12:16
  Tad Eggleston: Because the sky is just that… horrible black.
• 12:23
  Tad Eggleston: I find myself completely okay with the nondescript Perfect circle.
• 12:29
  Tad Eggleston: full moon, it, like…
• 12:31
  Maria Pena: That's pretty cool.
• 12:32
  Tad Eggleston: It lights it properly.
• 12:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 12:36
  Tad Eggleston: You know…
• 12:42
  Tad Eggleston: Cool albums for sale from Netherota Records.
• 12:47
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I don't know for certain they're cool albums, because I don't recognize any of the artists.
• 12:52
  Tad Eggleston: But… We can assume.
• 12:57
  Maria Pena: Oh, this page. That second panel. I mean, everything.
• 13:01
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 13:02
  Maria Pena: The, the weird-looking pumpkin.
• 13:05
  Tad Eggleston: I like the two bottom left panels, too.
• 13:10
  Marisol: Yeah. Yeah.
• 13:12
  Maria Pena: I like the whole sequence.
• 13:14
  Marisol: sequence with the dog. It's just… Freaky.
• 13:18
  Maria Pena: That is so creepy, yeah.
• 13:20
  Maria Pena: Like, oh, and the dog is kind of in the same position that she was in, so… so, you know, she's… dog is mirroring… like, if you go back to the…
• 13:29
  Maria Pena: previous page, the dog is mirroring her position, and then she…
• 13:34
  Maria Pena: You know, and then she kind of lifts up, and then the dog lifts up in the same way.
• 13:40
  Maria Pena: It's like, doggies.
• 13:43
  Maria Pena: Her, in a way.
• 13:46
  Maria Pena: like, her dark side, I don't know, but…
• 13:51
  Maria Pena: So if you go to the next…
• 13:52
  Maria Pena: Look at the bottom left panel, and then look at the next page, bottom right panel, and it's like…
• 13:59
  Maria Pena: Maggie again.
• 14:01
  Maria Pena: Are you doing it?
• 14:05
  Tad Eggleston: Next page? Sorry.
• 14:08
  Maria Pena: Okay, so previous page, bottom left panel.
• 14:12
  Maria Pena: And top… and next page, bottom right… so this page, bottom right panel, is like a mirror image of Maggie.
• 14:20
  Maria Pena: Yeah Hananah, dog!
• 14:25
  Tad Eggleston: Which, in some ways is even cooler, because… because it's a 1-2…
• 14:33
  Tad Eggleston: That is literally the backside of that panel.
• 14:39
  Maria Pena: And then the dog just starts walking in two legs… on two legs, which is really weird. And I love that Hitchcockian, the close-up of, Maggie getting closer and closer and closer.
• 14:53
  Maria Pena: I'm getting more and more horrified, like, what the fuck?
• 14:56
  Marisol: It just makes it all seem that much more ominous that this dog is just here.
• 15:01
  Marisol: And then gets up and starts walking towards her on two legs.
• 15:04
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 15:06
  Maria Pena: And then she's… bang, she's, back to reality.
• 15:13
  Marisol: Going to see her family.
• 15:17
  Tad Eggleston: It's always interesting when Maggie goes to beat Tia.
• 15:21
  Tad Eggleston: TF.
• 15:22
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 15:26
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 15:27
  Marisol: Her sister's kids.
• 15:28
  Maria Pena: Maggie, Maggie, Maggie.
• 15:29
  Tad Eggleston: Fighting twins.
• 15:33
  Maria Pena: Yeah, Esther's… Esther's kids.
• 15:37
  Maria Pena: Young Esther. He's grown up.
• 15:40
  Maria Pena: Brilliant.
• 15:43
  Maria Pena: And, and one of them is, Main, one of the twins, and the other one defends, defends,
• 15:50
  Maria Pena: Oh, Maggie?
• 15:53
  Tad Eggleston: That's my sister Lupe. You're fat. You better stop saying that, you're gonna get it!
• 15:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 16:05
  Marisol: Mr.
• 16:06
  Tad Eggleston: very… Very…
• 16:07
  Marisol: The kids looking so… peanuts every time they draw kids.
• 16:13
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah, but these are also very, very peppermint patty sandals.
• 16:17
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 16:20
  Tad Eggleston: So it's not just the mouth… the mouths are totally peanuts.
• 16:24
  Maria Pena: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:26
  Tad Eggleston: But I love that the sandals are totally peppermint patty sandals.
• 16:31
  Maria Pena: In that top, top left, top left…
• 16:34
  Maria Pena: panel, I love the, you know, the one that's on the floor, and even the little.
• 16:39
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 16:40
  Maria Pena: Turned-in toes, everything is so natural, like, the post is just great.
• 16:50
  Tad Eggleston: Yolanda, I told you, if you ever hit your sister again, but…
• 16:56
  Maria Pena: She said my tea was fast.
• 16:57
  Tad Eggleston: was bad.
• 17:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah, they're great.
• 17:04
  Maria Pena: So…
• 17:06
  Maria Pena: What's this all about? It's, Maggie coming home, and then she's sort of being a bit judgy about everyone, you know, like, she's… she doesn't fit in anymore.
• 17:19
  Tad Eggleston: I, I…
• 17:19
  Maria Pena: And also…
• 17:20
  Tad Eggleston: Totally, totally love when they finally see that Maggie's there. How long have you been standing there? Long enough to watch my little sister turn into a screeching maniac.
• 17:33
  Maria Pena: Shut up, Maggie.
• 17:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the family parties are always weird.
• 17:45
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 17:46
  Marisol: And I'll be the little crazy.
• 17:49
  Tad Eggleston: But, I mean, like… I get that.
• 17:54
  Tad Eggleston: Anytime I'm with anybody beyond, like…
• 18:02
  Tad Eggleston: So my family's got a limited number of cousins on both sides. So, like, we can have still pretty small get-togethers when it's… when it's just…
• 18:15
  Tad Eggleston: you know, both of my parents are one of four kids, and, like, I have…
• 18:23
  Tad Eggleston: Two cousins on my mother's side, and… and a whopping… 6 on my dad's side.
• 18:30
  Tad Eggleston: So, like, I'm not necessarily awkward in groups there, but the second we're anywhere where maybe… like…
• 18:45
  Tad Eggleston: the in-laws of one of my uncles or aunts are there… you know what I mean? Is when I start getting awkward, because it's like, oh.
• 18:56
  Tad Eggleston: I vaguely know who you are. I don't know if I remember your name.
• 19:01
  Tad Eggleston: I think I know how we're related, though not by blood.
• 19:08
  Marisol: That's the only awkward thing for me sometimes, like, every once in a while, gathering around family, or mostly with my dad's side of the family, it's a bunch of people who I don't really know, because I didn't grow up with them.
• 19:23
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 19:23
  Marisol: And maybe just every once in a while, you hear about them, and then you go to the gathering, it's like, oh, I knew you when you were a baby, and like.
• 19:32
  Marisol: Ma'am, I don't even know your name.
• 19:35
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 19:36
  Marisol: Did you say you're my aunt? Okay, I believe you, but I don't know who you are.
• 19:41
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly, like, sometimes… If the group's big enough, or… or…
• 19:49
  Tad Eggleston: Like, not always big enough. But, like, when you're in that group, where not only do you not know people, but you figure out pretty quickly that if they weren't related to somebody that you were related to.
• 20:03
  Tad Eggleston: You would never, ever, ever spend time with them.
• 20:07
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 20:10
  Marisol: Yep.
• 20:10
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's right. I… yeah, I feel that way, too.
• 20:14
  Tad Eggleston: It's like, so, what do I do? Don't want to seem… impolite or rude, but,
• 20:25
  Tad Eggleston: I don't want to talk, either.
• 20:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it's just making, you know, sometimes you have to make, sort of, like, Just…
• 20:36
  Maria Pena: A small dog could be.
• 20:38
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know how to do small talk.
• 20:40
  Tad Eggleston: Like, small talk makes me even more uncomfortable. So I'm either, like, silent hiding somewhere with a book, or I latch onto somebody and talk too much.
• 20:52
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I gotta say, I've put my foot in it. So, when I've tried to make an effort and go, okay, I'm gonna be more sociable, and then I just say the wrong things. Right, right. And then I look like an idiot.
• 21:06
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 21:06
  Maria Pena: So it's like, it's a fine line.
• 21:11
  Maria Pena: I love, yeah…
• 21:13
  Tad Eggleston: Totally feel Maggie in this.
• 21:16
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 21:17
  Tad Eggleston: And it's also so cool that it looks like the most comfortable she is, though she's still bored, is when, like…
• 21:25
  Tad Eggleston: They're trying to quiz her on the parts of the.
• 21:28
  Maria Pena: Of the car, she knows everything.
• 21:32
  Maria Pena: And that's her brother's, right? Right. Her mother's son's medley.
• 21:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 21:38
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 21:42
  Maria Pena: So…
• 21:44
  Tad Eggleston: Next time, ask me something hard, like, what kind of Rikatone uses Padua water, or what the hell is a Balthazor, or a Grinslack, and they've got big question marks. Forget it.
• 21:57
  Maria Pena: Making it up.
• 21:58
  Tad Eggleston: the second grade.
• 22:04
  Maria Pena: So, yeah, oh, and she talks about, you know, how we… we revert to the roles when we go back home, you know, we revert to roles when we were kids.
• 22:15
  Maria Pena: And she's, you know, she's serving, she's picking up after men and stuff, which is probably not something that…
• 22:23
  Maria Pena: you know.
• 22:24
  Tad Eggleston: Well, in all.
• 22:24
  Maria Pena: So she was the…
• 22:25
  Tad Eggleston: One that got left behind?
• 22:27
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 22:28
  Tad Eggleston: Her aunt, so she, like…
• 22:31
  Maria Pena: It's like, this is not really my home.
• 22:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah, because this is the house they moved to when they left me with Vicky Glory.
• 22:41
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 22:42
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so it's, yeah, a lot of conflicting, conflicting feelings.
• 22:47
  Maria Pena: And they… and then they start talking about EZ and the house, that this is Galindo's house.
• 22:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 22:53
  Maria Pena: That easy lives in, and she starts looking up at that moon, and maybe that's where that flashback, you know, to the dog… Right.
• 23:01
  Maria Pena: Comes… yeah, that's.
• 23:04
  Tad Eggleston: I do love that.
• 23:04
  Maria Pena: Sort of sandwiches it, yeah.
• 23:07
  Maria Pena: Because… That's the sort of creepy shit that I put in the house.
• 23:13
  Maria Pena: And I should see, it's like she can't help herself, she has to go and have a look.
• 23:19
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 23:20
  Maria Pena: on this bit, man. You know, that reminds me, I don't know if you ever read 100 Years of Solitude.
• 23:26
  Maria Pena: But there's a scene where, someone, this guy, one of the… when Diaz gets shot, and this… this trickle of blood
• 23:36
  Maria Pena: Comes out of him, and it goes down the street, and it turns the corner, past the, you know, and it describes the whole trajectory of this blood, trickle of blood, and it ends up at the feet of his mother, and then she knows that he's dead.
• 23:51
  Maria Pena: And that's the sort of magic realism.
• 23:54
  Maria Pena: kind of stuff, and as soon as I saw this, I thought, oh, that's just, like, 100 years of solitude, except this ends at the feet of this little demon person who's lighting up on fire.
• 24:05
  Tad Eggleston: And it… and it seems likely to be, like, gasoline.
• 24:08
  Tad Eggleston: kerosene.
• 24:09
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Something like that.
• 24:10
  Tad Eggleston: bad.
• 24:12
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and now this is…
• 24:13
  Tad Eggleston: He turns into the dog.
• 24:17
  Maria Pena: Yeah, it runs with the dogs, in any case.
• 24:20
  Maria Pena: And then it's on fire.
• 24:23
  Maria Pena: And it's going towards easy.
• 24:27
  Maria Pena: This is masterful, this story. Like, it's just, like, you go from…
• 24:32
  Tad Eggleston: She's ridiculous.
• 24:33
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Maria Pena: Like, you know, we've gone from very normal, light-hearted, ordinary…
• 24:45
  Maria Pena: Family stuff, and then you… bang, you go into this really fucking creepy stuff.
• 24:52
  Maria Pena: I mean.
• 24:53
  Tad Eggleston: But you also… he also, Foreshadow it.
• 24:59
  Maria Pena: Yes, for sure.
• 25:00
  Tad Eggleston: shadow with the flashback.
• 25:03
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 25:03
  Tad Eggleston: Then you go into the… The light-hearted, if awkward, family scene.
• 25:12
  Maria Pena: And maybe you…
• 25:14
  Tad Eggleston: present day, and…
• 25:20
  Maria Pena: And also, you know, at the end of the… the visit to her family, she was a little bit down, because she was like, oh, maybe I'm… I'm a snob, and…
• 25:29
  Tad Eggleston: Right?
• 25:30
  Maria Pena: And that's part of it, maybe? Like, it's part of her, state of mind, in a way.
• 25:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Tad Eggleston: And then we go for some high soft lisp.
• 25:45
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Maria Pena: What does she say in Scott?
• 25:48
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know.
• 25:51
  Maria Pena: She's in love with, well, Preeti and Scott.
• 25:56
  Maria Pena: But, you know, really the other issue that we're reading today, Scott is very,
• 26:03
  Maria Pena: Present in her life from… From high school, so she's obviously always had it.
• 26:10
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, and this is a flashback to almost high school.
• 26:13
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 26:17
  Maria Pena: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:19
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's right. That's when they were still… young, and then… She married him.
• 26:27
  Tad Eggleston: And then she married the… the weird… Self-help guy.
• 26:32
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 26:33
  Tad Eggleston: I think we're going through the husbands in this one.
• 26:36
  Maria Pena: Boy, Scott was such an asshole to her, like…
• 26:39
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 26:40
  Maria Pena: I mean, doesn't he know what he's got there? Jesus.
• 26:45
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and it almost seems like that's half of why she keeps going back to him.
• 26:51
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 26:51
  Tad Eggleston: He's, like, the representation of her low self-esteem?
• 26:56
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 26:57
  Maria Pena: Yeah, like, if this fat guy, you know, look, just…
• 27:02
  Tad Eggleston: This fat, self-centered, drunk guy who doesn't appreciate me…
• 27:07
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that's what I deserve, kind of thing. Oh, it was so heartbreaking when she… he tells her, oh, we're gonna go out and go and dress up and stuff, and then she goes and makes all this effort.
• 27:18
  Maria Pena: And… And he's with someone else in bed, so…
• 27:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Maria Pena: I was just like, oh man, Fritzy?
• 27:33
  Maria Pena: Oh, he did make an album with her on the cover.
• 27:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 27:40
  Maria Pena: Ugh.
• 27:41
  Tad Eggleston: She's got her… her sugar daddy.
• 27:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah, they're old.
• 27:47
  Tad Eggleston: She also treats her really terribly for…
• 27:50
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 27:50
  Tad Eggleston: minutes, but then, has a heart attack, and…
• 27:54
  Tad Eggleston: She doesn't exactly do anything to save him.
• 27:57
  Maria Pena: No.
• 28:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 28:03
  Maria Pena: So, yeah, so she's… she's got very bad tasting, maybe.
• 28:09
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 28:12
  Maria Pena: And then… What happens then? Oh, there! Oh yeah, now she meets the…
• 28:17
  Maria Pena: This really handsome guy at the high school reunion.
• 28:23
  Maria Pena: That she doesn't remember.
• 28:24
  Tad Eggleston: Being the guy that… that… that she… Bullied.
• 28:28
  Maria Pena: cute.
• 28:29
  Maria Pena: Yeah, that, you know, she and her friends… I mean, it looks like her friends were the kids, and she's just kind of didn't do anything, you know, she was part of a big clique of…
• 28:41
  Maria Pena: girls, but… I don't think she was mean to him, necessarily.
• 28:50
  Maria Pena: And he's out for revenge.
• 28:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 28:55
  Maria Pena: Oof. It's almost like, that toxic masculinity stuff that's, you know, so prevalent now, you know?
• 29:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 29:05
  Maria Pena: He's almost like a means, so… weird.
• 29:09
  Tad Eggleston: Definitely.
• 29:10
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 29:16
  Maria Pena: Yeah, very, very disturbing stuff.
• 29:20
  Tad Eggleston: And then Venus…
• 29:23
  Tad Eggleston: On top of it all, I wish Aunt Fritz wasn't so dumb. I mean, nice. So nice.
• 29:29
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 29:30
  Maria Pena: Yeah, Venus has been really,
• 29:33
  Maria Pena: a bit, being too frizzy, kind of, in a way. Well, I'm thinking of the other issue that we're reading now, because of…
• 29:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 29:41
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think… I think Venus honestly cares a lot for Fritzy. She's just also the one that, like…
• 29:50
  Maria Pena: She sees him through…
• 29:51
  Tad Eggleston: Her without putting up with the bullshit?
• 29:54
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 29:55
  Marisol: Venus also strikes me as a very blunt and upfront person.
• 29:59
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I think…
• 29:59
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 30:00
  Tad Eggleston: I think Petra, like, won't tell her.
• 30:04
  Tad Eggleston: about the bullshit, but thinks less of her because of it, and talks behind her back because of it, and that sort of thing. Whereas Venus is like, Aunt Fritzie, you're so smart. Why the fuck are you doing this?
• 30:21
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 30:23
  Marisol: Yeah, that's Venus.
• 30:27
  Tad Eggleston: I almost don't want Venus to grow up.
• 30:30
  Maria Pena: Right?
• 30:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah… She must be growing up by now.
• 30:38
  Tad Eggleston: I think she is.
• 30:41
  Maria Pena: And then Julio's day.
• 30:43
  Maria Pena: Again.
• 30:44
  Tad Eggleston: This time, just.
• 30:45
  Marisol: One page.
• 30:46
  Maria Pena: Just his mother praying.
• 30:49
  Maria Pena: And praying for everybody else, and then she thinks about it for a while and goes, oh, I want a necklace with arms.
• 31:01
  Maria Pena: No.
• 31:03
  Tad Eggleston: Near the end of Me for the Unknown.
• 31:06
  Maria Pena: Yeah, they started to feel more like, okay, something's happening that I understand, you know, like…
• 31:12
  Tad Eggleston: This melee scene is crazy.
• 31:16
  Maria Pena: Yeah, oh, what happens to those guys that pirate, the mob just… descends on them, and…
• 31:23
  Marisol: Oof.
• 31:24
  Maria Pena: And dismember them by hand, with their own, like… like, eyeballs get.
• 31:31
  Marisol: It's crazy.
• 31:32
  Maria Pena: Arms get torn off, eyeballs get sucked out.
• 31:35
  Maria Pena: Oh, it's scooped out.
• 31:37
  Maria Pena: Pulled out of the sockets.
• 31:39
  Maria Pena: It's like, whoa.
• 31:41
  Marisol: Gruesome.
• 31:42
  Maria Pena: And
• 31:45
  Maria Pena: And we're about to be… the kid is about to be reunited with his parents, and he hasn't noticed because he's been on his device the whole time, which is very for…
• 31:55
  Maria Pena: shadowing of…
• 31:57
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 31:58
  Maria Pena: Of today's, you know, youth misspent.
• 32:03
  Marisol: Yep.
• 32:04
  Maria Pena: Childhood.
• 32:07
  Maria Pena: Digson deities.
• 32:09
  Maria Pena: I love this back cover.
• 32:11
  Tad Eggleston: The back cover is very cool.
• 32:13
  Maria Pena: I think that's gonna be my favorite, animal, so…
• 32:17
  Tad Eggleston: Beto.
• 32:19
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Tad Eggleston: Let's take a look at… Sum… Luba Comics and Stories…
• 32:33
  Maria Pena: So that was…
• 32:34
  Tad Eggleston: Six…
• 32:37
  Maria Pena: That was cool.
• 32:39
  Maria Pena: I love that cover, it reminds me of… it's almost like,
• 32:43
  Maria Pena: DC copper, you know, like, there's something that reminded me of, like,
• 32:50
  Maria Pena: romance comics? There's something about it, and I don't know what it is.
• 32:55
  Tad Eggleston: It definitely has a romance comics feel.
• 32:58
  Maria Pena: And yeah, and I don't know why, because it… I don't remember any Romans comic covers that look like that, but there's something about it. I love the…
• 33:08
  Tad Eggleston: I think between…
• 33:09
  Marisol: poses?
• 33:10
  Tad Eggleston: Single color background, and the.
• 33:12
  Maria Pena: spot.
• 33:13
  Tad Eggleston: the font.
• 33:14
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Tad Eggleston: for Luba and Fritz.
• 33:17
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:18
  Maria Pena: I love the way the black just joins them all together, the black.
• 33:23
  Marisol: Oh, I'm just noticing now the font for each of their names is different.
• 33:28
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:29
  Tad Eggleston: And this time, we're emphasizing everybody's legs rather than bosoms.
• 33:34
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Maria Pena: Yeah, for us, yeah.
• 33:38
  Maria Pena: In their hair.
• 33:39
  Maria Pena: Your hair's kind of flowing.
• 33:42
  Marisol: Yep.
• 33:43
  Maria Pena: Ye.
• 33:44
  Marisol: But with a lot more gray in her hair.
• 33:46
  Maria Pena: Yes, I was about to say, yeah, Luba's obviously older, she's… I think Luba's…
• 33:55
  Tad Eggleston: Probably in her 50s now?
• 33:57
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 33:58
  Tad Eggleston: 40s, early 50s?
• 34:00
  Maria Pena: Yeah, but she's always had a hard life, like, she looks…
• 34:04
  Marisol: A bit.
• 34:05
  Maria Pena: Beaten up, even when she was just in her 30s.
• 34:09
  Marisol: Yeah. Because how much older is she than Fruits and Petra?
• 34:13
  Tad Eggleston: I think at least a decade.
• 34:17
  Marisol: I thought so.
• 34:19
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 34:19
  Marisol: I don't remember if it's ever stated how much older she is than them, but…
• 34:22
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know if it is either.
• 34:26
  Marisol: I knew it had to be at least around 10 years.
• 34:29
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 34:31
  Maria Pena: I love this page.
• 34:32
  Maria Pena: For the three daughters.
• 34:34
  Tad Eggleston: Cool on.
• 34:37
  Marisol: Deluba with her trusty hammer.
• 34:40
  Maria Pena: Yes.
• 34:41
  Tad Eggleston: I also love that it's got Venus… with that, that…
• 34:47
  Maria Pena: criticizing…
• 34:48
  Tad Eggleston: Mom…
• 34:49
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 34:53
  Tad Eggleston: Boxing?
• 34:57
  Maria Pena: Oh, lubas.
• 34:59
  Maria Pena: Dorian Gray portrait.
• 35:01
  Marisol: Mute.
• 35:02
  Maria Pena: Or something.
• 35:05
  Maria Pena: So…
• 35:05
  Marisol: proceeds to burn.
• 35:08
  Maria Pena: She burns it, and then she drinks from the… some kind of… Fountain, or…
• 35:15
  Maria Pena: Or… or… or the… the portrait…
• 35:21
  Maria Pena: Melts, and she's dipped her hands in it or something?
• 35:25
  Maria Pena: And then she's young.
• 35:27
  Marisol: She was, like, using The water from the river to put it out.
• 35:31
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Maria Pena: What was that, Maurice also?
• 35:35
  Marisol: Yeah, I thought the… what she was, like, dipping her hands in, she was just taking water from the river to put out the fire of the.
• 35:45
  Maria Pena: Yeah, okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 35:50
  Maria Pena: That's a much, much better explanation, because I was like, where'd that water come from?
• 35:57
  Maria Pena: And then she looks at herself in the… in the stream, and she's young again.
• 36:04
  Maria Pena: And she's… Looking at her sisters when they were teenagers.
• 36:12
  Maria Pena: So I guess it says here that she's in her 20s.
• 36:16
  Maria Pena: And then the sisters are teenagers.
• 36:20
  Maria Pena: So, maybe that's the difference in their ages. They went back to the same era.
• 36:27
  Maria Pena: You know what I mean?
• 36:29
  Tad Eggleston: Possibly.
• 36:31
  Maria Pena: You did seem very happy to be 20-ish again, Luba.
• 36:37
  Maria Pena: pivoting.
• 36:39
  Maria Pena: Sisters were… They'd have to be younger than… Maybe it's not.
• 36:46
  Maria Pena: Okay, never mind what I just said. Because I think she's older than them by at least 10 years, so if she's 20, they're not 10 years old, so that it doesn't make sense.
• 37:03
  Maria Pena: And apparently, this portrait appears out of nowhere.
• 37:10
  Maria Pena: Like, you burn it, and it reappears like a phoenix.
• 37:15
  Maria Pena: Jesus.
• 37:16
  Maria Pena: Indestructible portrait.
• 37:18
  Tad Eggleston: And this is where we start… start our, our, our…
• 37:21
  Tad Eggleston: I don't think they've started talking again.
• 37:24
  Tad Eggleston: But this is where it starts becoming… it'll be a year when the three daughters stop speaking to one another.
• 37:31
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Maria Pena: So this is a year before.
• 37:34
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 37:35
  Maria Pena: It's like a timeline to… to them not talking to each other.
• 37:43
  Maria Pena: So… Fritzy?
• 37:47
  Maria Pena: Doing your psychology during the day, and then being an actress.
• 37:54
  Marisol: At night.
• 37:55
  Maria Pena: At night for her.
• 37:56
  Marisol: in our off time, anyway?
• 37:58
  Maria Pena: Enough of time, yeah.
• 38:00
  Maria Pena: And everybody's got an opinion about Fritzie and the… Movies.
• 38:08
  Maria Pena: And Petra wants to be an actress as well, but, you know, she feels like, you know, like she's a bit jealous that Fritzi's in the movies, but she doesn't want to say.
• 38:23
  Tad Eggleston: Petra… Seems the easiest… Seems to be the one that falls to jealousy the easiest.
• 38:32
  Maria Pena: Hmm. Yeah.
• 38:34
  Tad Eggleston: the 3.
• 38:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah, she's also, like, she's protective.
• 38:42
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, definitely.
• 38:44
  Maria Pena: of Fritzi, and also a little bit in competition with her.
• 38:49
  Maria Pena: Right.
• 38:53
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 38:55
  Maria Pena: So… Amen?
• 38:58
  Maria Pena: We got this, boys who want to have sex with the sisters, and they got two lookout boys.
• 39:05
  Maria Pena: One of whom is Scott.
• 39:10
  Tad Eggleston: I think… isn't… don't you think this is the scene that… that Luba was seeing?
• 39:16
  Tad Eggleston: At the beginning of the…
• 39:18
  Maria Pena: Yes, definitely.
• 39:19
  Marisol: Yeah, for sure.
• 39:20
  Maria Pena: Luba. Luba, that's the… that's right, that's the… that's where Luba got down.
• 39:28
  Maria Pena: Sort of teleported to or whatever by the aliens.
• 39:33
  Maria Pena: We didn't mention the aliens, there were aliens involved.
• 39:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Maria Pena: Yeah, and Scott… Yeah, he gets… this guy with this.
• 39:47
  Tad Eggleston: This is…
• 39:48
  Maria Pena: this…
• 39:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, maybe this is why,
• 39:53
  Tad Eggleston: Scott always treats her bad, is… is the… the…
• 40:00
  Tad Eggleston: Small dick guy made him watch the blowjob.
• 40:04
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 40:05
  Maria Pena: And he was upset, like, he was…
• 40:07
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 40:08
  Maria Pena: Crying.
• 40:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so obviously Scott was a sensitive kid.
• 40:19
  Maria Pena: It feels like, Fritzy,
• 40:26
  Maria Pena: Affected a lot of guys during her.
• 40:30
  Marisol: her use.
• 40:31
  Maria Pena: In your… yeah, during your teenage years.
• 40:34
  Maria Pena: Because you've got… they've got the handsome guy in the other one.
• 40:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, small dick guy.
• 40:45
  Maria Pena: And so…
• 40:45
  Tad Eggleston: here.
• 40:47
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Maria Pena: Like, we think… I thought he was dead.
• 40:53
  Maria Pena: But then, fritzie says, oh, Matt's moving, we don't have to call the police.
• 41:00
  Maria Pena: So he's still alive.
• 41:04
  Maria Pena: And it is a very bad depiction of surfing.
• 41:08
  Maria Pena: Well, I guess it could be. Yeah, I think a bit more research should have been done. That one might be better.
• 41:16
  Tad Eggleston: Are you saying you don't think that Beto's a surfer?
• 41:20
  Maria Pena: Yeah, I don't think Pedro's a surfer.
• 41:22
  Maria Pena: That's funny. Definitely… that looks very odd.
• 41:31
  Maria Pena: It'll.
• 41:32
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 41:37
  Maria Pena: So there's Scott again.
• 41:39
  Maria Pena: And and the girls kind of rope them into confronting this… awful.
• 41:50
  Maria Pena: rock and roll guy. So, Scott's a new, new, new, what is it, new wavy kind of guy in his music, and this…
• 42:00
  Maria Pena: And the other guys, like, are the Eagles, you know, like, rock and roll.
• 42:05
  Maria Pena: And it's this era when there were all these new things happening, like there was punk rock, old rock, you know, classic rock was still around, and then there was disco.
• 42:17
  Maria Pena: This is, very, you know, it's kind of like a historical kind of…
• 42:26
  Maria Pena: Bit of an analysis of… not an analysis, but it sort of… it's touching on that.
• 42:33
  Maria Pena: Dit.
• 42:34
  Maria Pena: Era when old rock was dying, and disco took over, and then punk rock came, and… Replace this cone.
• 42:44
  Tad Eggleston: Ritzy's totally punk rock.
• 42:47
  Maria Pena: Yeah. Buck Rock… Is that the same guy?
• 42:52
  Maria Pena: That guy with the… is that the same guy that was rock and roll before? Look at his teeth.
• 42:58
  Tad Eggleston: I think it is.
• 42:59
  Marisol: Maybe.
• 42:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah, so he's changed to punk rock.
• 43:02
  Tad Eggleston: Well, he goes… he goes wherever the boobs and pussy are.
• 43:09
  Marisol: Oh, yeah, it is the same guy.
• 43:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Maria Pena: So it's just everybody just changed the music that they liked, and…
• 43:21
  Maria Pena: I guess Scott went from… Devo to punk, which is totally different.
• 43:28
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 43:31
  Maria Pena: Things as well.
• 43:37
  Marisol: Now, at this point, at this next page, our… I forget, if,
• 43:44
  Marisol: when exactly Petra and her husband separated.
• 43:48
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 43:49
  Maria Pena: Hmm…
• 43:49
  Marisol: Had to have been after this, right?
• 43:52
  Tad Eggleston: I think so.
• 43:54
  Maria Pena: Yeah, because it's still… Together there, by the looks of it.
• 44:03
  Maria Pena: And, and Petra hasn't had her reduction there yet. Oh, that's true.
• 44:10
  Maria Pena: And then she's got the reduction in this one.
• 44:17
  Maria Pena: And we got.
• 44:21
  Tad Eggleston: Chapter 3. They're all together.
• 44:24
  Maria Pena: It's true.
• 44:33
  Maria Pena: Then Luba… So this is still sort of all revolving around Fritzy doing movies, making movies.
• 44:41
  Marisol: Yes.
• 44:42
  Maria Pena: and being objectified and stuff, because, Luba tells him about this dream, And Fritz.
• 44:49
  Maria Pena: And Petra was skating, and Fritz was naked.
• 44:53
  Maria Pena: And… Fritz gets, upset.
• 44:58
  Maria Pena: Because it feels like it's so…
• 45:01
  Maria Pena: There's this sort of constant battering of her about being an actress.
• 45:10
  Maria Pena: Don't you think, like.
• 45:11
  Tad Eggleston: I really hurt her feelings here, too.
• 45:13
  Marisol: Hmm.
• 45:14
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 45:18
  Maria Pena: Pretty sure it was, like, a bit of jealousy and…
• 45:20
  Tad Eggleston: about me, and I told the director, more me, and then, meanwhile, Fritz was naked.
• 45:25
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 45:28
  Maria Pena: Yes, I see that the two that are not in the movies are kind of…
• 45:33
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 45:34
  Maria Pena: having feelings about it, I think, anyway.
• 45:36
  Maria Pena: Maybe a bit of jealousy, a bit of…
• 45:40
  Maria Pena: For sure. I'm jealous.
• 45:41
  Marisol: on Petra's part.
• 45:43
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 45:44
  Maria Pena: But, you know, even Luba, that dream, is telling you that in her subconscious, she's like, what about me, what about me, you know?
• 45:52
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 45:56
  Maria Pena: And then Petra says something really nice to her, she says, you know, You're gonna be fine.
• 46:02
  Maria Pena: You're gonna make a big splash.
• 46:06
  Tad Eggleston: But then it… it will be the next day when the three daughters stop speaking to one another.
• 46:12
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 46:12
  Tad Eggleston: for another time.
• 46:14
  Maria Pena: Please tell us a story, what happened?
• 46:16
  Marisol: Yeah, I wanna know what happens.
• 46:19
  Tad Eggleston: is great
• 46:26
  Tad Eggleston: Honestly, I'm not certain that we know yet.
• 46:30
  Maria Pena: Oh, really?
• 46:32
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 46:34
  Marisol: Do we know why they stopped speaking to each other?
• 46:36
  Tad Eggleston: that we know either why they stopped speaking together, or that they've started speaking together again. I feel like that came up the last time I talked to Beto.
• 46:46
  Maria Pena: I love this page.
• 46:48
  Tad Eggleston: This is a good pick.
• 46:48
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 46:49
  Maria Pena: Oh, I love that Fritzi at the bottom and the middle there. That is a gorgeous.
• 46:54
  Marisol: Oh, it's beautiful.
• 46:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 46:57
  Tad Eggleston: In fact…
• 46:58
  Maria Pena: I'm gonna back this page as my favorite.
• 47:02
  Maria Pena: Beto.
• 47:04
  Maria Pena: Panel.
• 47:06
  Maria Pena: Because I think he put extra…
• 47:09
  Maria Pena: extra care into this one. It's all very… like, it's a real…
• 47:18
  Maria Pena: Really nice.
• 47:22
  Marisol: I think mine will have to be the last panel of the issue.
• 47:26
  Marisol: The one where they're all three in the pool, because they just… they just look so happy.
• 47:31
  Tad Eggleston: Me too.
• 47:35
  Marisol: I love that Fritz just jumped in.
• 47:38
  Marisol: With all her clothes on.
• 47:40
  Marisol: And they're just hanging out in the pool, having a good time, having a good laugh.
• 47:46
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 47:47
  Marisol: And just the ominous… Sentence of, this is the last day.
• 47:52
  Marisol: They speak to each other.
• 47:55
  Maria Pena: Hmm.
• 47:56
  Marisol: Kind of makes it a bittersweet panel. It's like, oh, they're having such a great time, and then what happened?
• 48:03
  Marisol: After that, that they stopped talking.
• 48:08
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, I'm with you. That's my panel.
• 48:11
  Tad Eggleston: Are you doing the whole back page, Maria, or are you just doing.
• 48:15
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 48:15
  Tad Eggleston: Fritz down here.
• 48:17
  Maria Pena: No, I think the whole back page, I think, is really going to town with everything on this, like, every…
• 48:25
  Maria Pena: Drawing on that page is just specially… Nice.
• 48:30
  Maria Pena: But I…
• 48:31
  Maria Pena: If I had to pick a part of the page, it would be that depiction of Ritzy down there, but…
• 48:36
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I mean, that is really kind of outstanding.
• 48:40
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 48:43
  Tad Eggleston: though, also, and I feel…
• 48:45
  Maria Pena: So that top right.
• 48:46
  Tad Eggleston: Fritz… Fritz's Marilyn Monroe in both that
• 48:50
  Tad Eggleston: Bottom panel and that top right panel.
• 48:53
  Maria Pena: upright, yeah.
• 49:01
  Tad Eggleston: That feels like a Misfits Maryland, and that feels like, like,
• 49:06
  Tad Eggleston: Gentlemen prefer blondes, or diamonds, or a girl's best friend.
• 49:11
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 49:15
  Maria Pena: Yep.
• 49:18
  Marisol: Really nice, though.
• 49:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah… alrighty… Back to… Figure out some Jaime.
• 49:31
  Maria Pena: Oh, so this one is hard in that… There's so many good panels.
• 49:37
  Maria Pena: They're all… it's like a Beatles album, it's all hits.
• 49:41
  Tad Eggleston: It is, but I think… I still think I'm gonna go…
• 49:46
  Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna go with two panels, but I'm gonna go with a stacked pair rather than a next-to-each-other pair. I'm gonna do the bottom right… er, bottom left two.
• 49:56
  Tad Eggleston: Right here on the.
• 49:57
  Maria Pena: First page.
• 49:58
  Tad Eggleston: H.
• 49:59
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 50:01
  Marisol: Those are nice.
• 50:03
  Marisol: Just drunk Maggie on the lawn.
• 50:05
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 50:09
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 50:10
  Marisol: Mine will have to be the page after this, just the whole sequence.
• 50:14
  Marisol: The creepy sequence with the dog.
• 50:17
  Maria Pena: Mmm.
• 50:20
  Marisol: It's… this is not the first time we've seen this dog, but it just seems like a recurring…
• 50:26
  Marisol: ill omen.
• 50:28
  Tad Eggleston: those.
• 50:28
  Maria Pena: So…
• 50:29
  Tad Eggleston: Just doing the stacked dog, or are you doing the back and forth with Maggie?
• 50:35
  Marisol: The back and forth, so the whole page, essentially.
• 50:38
  Tad Eggleston: All of the page.
• 50:40
  Marisol: Yep.
• 50:41
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 50:42
  Maria Pena: Excuse me.
• 50:45
  Maria Pena: Well, I think, Jaime was, particularly inspired with that.
• 50:51
  Maria Pena: Flashback. I…
• 50:53
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 50:54
  Maria Pena: I really like Maggie coming out of the house drunk, but… Yeah.
• 50:59
  Maria Pena: Like, it would… minute I saw that panel, I thought, oh, yeah.
• 51:04
  Maria Pena: Like, I just love that.
• 51:06
  Tad Eggleston: So, coming out of the…
• 51:07
  Marisol: I was drunk.
• 51:08
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 51:08
  Tad Eggleston: Adding one, or, or, or… Are they stumbling drunk, or they're coming out the door?
• 51:14
  Maria Pena: The top, they're coming at the top. Yeah, the top right, yeah.
• 51:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yep, so we got… we got all of our… our favorite Jaime panels in the first two pages.
• 51:29
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 51:30
  Marisol: Started off strong, this issue.
• 51:33
  Maria Pena: I mean.
• 51:34
  Tad Eggleston: And that has nothing to do with there not being lots of great pain.
• 51:38
  Maria Pena: No, no.
• 51:39
  Tad Eggleston: panels after that.
• 51:42
  Maria Pena: Absolutely, like…
• 51:44
  Tad Eggleston: It's, it's only that, that those were really, really kind of outstanding.
• 51:51
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 51:51
  Marisol: They stood out, for sure.
• 51:54
  Tad Eggleston: So… let me… feel like…
• 52:01
  Marisol: Season number 10.
• 52:03
  Tad Eggleston: Issue 10 is a double-sized issue.
• 52:07
  Tad Eggleston: Okay. So, do we want… 2…
• 52:11
  Tad Eggleston: Issue 10 and a Luba Comics and Stories, or do we want to skip Luba Comics and Stories for next week and just do Issue 10?
• 52:19
  Maria Pena: Yeah, let's just do one. Let's just do one.
• 52:22
  Marisol: Especially since it's double.
• 52:23
  Maria Pena: 60 pages.
• 52:25
  Tad Eggleston: 60 pages.
• 52:27
  Marisol: Whoa.
• 52:27
  Tad Eggleston: Wait till we get to news stories, where they're all 100 pages.
• 52:31
  Marisol: Oh, boy.
• 52:33
  Maria Pena: Wow.
• 52:34
  Tad Eggleston: Thankfully, there's only 8 of those.
• 52:36
  Maria Pena: Okay.
• 52:39
  Marisol: Well, that softens the blow a bit. There's not too many of those.
• 52:44
  Maria Pena: Yeah.
• 52:45
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, so next week we've got… Issue 10, we got some.
• 52:50
  Tad Eggleston: stay… the longer Julio stayed than.
• 52:55
  Marisol: Yeah.
• 52:55
  Tad Eggleston: in a while.
• 52:57
  Marisol: More magazine.
• 52:58
  Maria Pena: Maybe, maybe it'll all come to roost.
• 53:01
  Maria Pena: Eventually.
• 53:03
  Maria Pena: Julius Dave?
• 53:08
  Tad Eggleston: Oh.
• 53:09
  Marisol: Cool.
• 53:11
  Tad Eggleston: Never happened, too.
• 53:16
  Marisol: We're finally.
• 53:17
  Maria Pena: That's a seat.
• 53:17
  Marisol: They're on a stigmata again, after so long.
• 53:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah…
• 53:22
  Marisol: That's a surprise. And more Roy!
• 53:31
  Tad Eggleston: Some more Julio's Day.
• 53:34
  Marisol: And then I think this is the conclusion of the…
• 53:37
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the conclusion…
• 53:38
  Marisol: For the unknown?
• 53:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 53:46
  Maria Pena: Looks very conclusive, that's…
• 53:50
  Tad Eggleston: the unknown conclusion.
• 53:54
  Maria Pena: Excellent.
• 53:55
  Marisol: Oh, man.
• 53:57
  Tad Eggleston: And some reflections.
• 54:03
  Maria Pena: more deeply.
• 54:04
  Maria Pena: T-shirts.
• 54:07
  Maria Pena: Alright.
• 54:09
  Tad Eggleston: I have to find this.
• 54:12
  Maria Pena: room.
• 54:12
  Tad Eggleston: That's all I know.
• 54:13
  Maria Pena: tears.
• 54:14
  Tad Eggleston: Cheers.
• 54:15
  Tad Eggleston: Matt Baker?
• 54:25
  Marisol: Very nice.
• 54:26
  Tad Eggleston: Very cool.
• 54:28
  Tad Eggleston: Matt Baker does good stuff.
• 54:31
  Maria Pena: I love, love, romance calls.
• 54:32
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, and we've got a, some lists… From them as well.
• 54:40
  Tad Eggleston: Favorite comics, some favorite artists…
• 54:45
  Maria Pena: Excellent.
• 54:49
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah… Fun issue.
• 54:53
  Marisol: the letters.
• 54:55
  Maria Pena: I look forward to it.
• 54:57
  Marisol: A big issue, but yeah.
• 54:59
  Tad Eggleston: Thank you.
• 55:00
  Marisol: Next time.
• 55:01
  Tad Eggleston: So, for Maria and Marisol, this has been the Love & Rockets
• 55:05
  Tad Eggleston: Book Club on 22 panels, and we will see you after the next page.