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08/05/2024 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Steven Allen Adams, Mayor Amy Shuler Goodwin · The Dave Allen Show

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  Speaker 3: little bit later on in the morning. Charleston Muir Amy
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  Speaker 3: Schuler Goodwe is going to join us. The mayor are always
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  Speaker 3: good about paying us a visit. Nothing specific on the
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  Speaker 3: agenda today, but where she's going to update this on
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  Speaker 3: some things going on to the city. But as always,
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  Speaker 3: zero zero eight. I want to start with this story though.
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  Speaker 3: Over the weekend, a very long and complex story involving
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  Speaker 3: a lot of different people broke. Now we've been hearing
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  Speaker 3: rumors about it for some time and we aren't done.
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  Speaker 3: We are not done with hearing all the revelations that
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  Speaker 3: have come out about this. Aron Brad mcilhanny has been
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  Speaker 3: on it from day one, as of a few others.
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  Speaker 3: The Zet actually reported on a part of it two
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday. But the guy who wrote the giants story
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  Speaker 3: that wasblished in print and online Saturday via Ogden Newspapers
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  Speaker 3: is stealing out of Adams. He was with us last
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  Speaker 3: week and he joins us again. Steven, good morning, Welcome
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  Speaker 3: back to the parm marstore studio. Things a lot man.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, Dave, And I gotta tell you, I'm still
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  Speaker 5: exhausted from writing this story. It was probably the longest
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  Speaker 5: story I've written.
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  Speaker 3: So listeners may want to get a pen and paper
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  Speaker 3: for this one, Stephen, because it's a very complicated and
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  Speaker 3: involved story. It all has to do with the former
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  Speaker 3: Pleasant power plant, a company called Omnis Fuel Technologies, Governor
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  Speaker 3: Jim Justice, the State of Economic Development Authority and its
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  Speaker 3: said Chris Warner, also Republican nominee for Secretary of State,
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  Speaker 3: former Senate president and one time candidate for Governor Bill Cole,
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  Speaker 3: the Conservative Policy Action Politic, the Conservative Policy Action Pack,
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  Speaker 3: the Political Action Committee. Mark Scott's name is in there.
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  Speaker 3: They now resigned a cabinet secretary for the State Department
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  Speaker 3: of Administration. That's a lot of players, Steven.
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  Speaker 5: Are there more We will see because ultimately this all
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  Speaker 5: stems from the news that broke a couple weeks ago
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  Speaker 5: about Department of Administration Secretary Mark Scott resigning. Turns out
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  Speaker 5: that was because induing part, according to the Governor's office,
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  Speaker 5: to his actions while being chairman of Conservative Policy Action,
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  Speaker 5: a federal five to twenty seven super pac and perhaps
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  Speaker 5: trying to get lobbyists to donate to this pack using
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  Speaker 5: perhaps state resources do it on state time. We don't
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  Speaker 5: know the specifics of that. So a lot of these
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  Speaker 5: stories from Brad, from Mike Tony with the gazet mail
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  Speaker 5: all kind of stemmed from that. So when I went
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  Speaker 5: looking through those donations, I noticed the same thing everyone
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  Speaker 5: else has noticed. That there was a fifty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 5: donation from a company connected to Bill cole In, a
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  Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars donation from a company connected to the
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  Speaker 5: CFO of a project at the former Pleasants power plant
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  Speaker 5: called omnis Field Technologies. His name is Randall Smith.
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  Speaker 3: Not to be confused with Randall Reidsmith.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, because it is a common name.
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  Speaker 3: Not to not to make confused. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So when I kind of saw that, I'm like, well, all,
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  Speaker 5: that's really interesting. So I decided and I've written about
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  Speaker 5: the power plant project. In short, they want to basically
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  Speaker 5: pump coal in one side and then burn that really
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  Speaker 5: hot and take the one of the byproducts of that
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  Speaker 5: being graphite, use that ship that off for manufacturing. And
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  Speaker 5: then then they want to take the hydrogen and pump
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  Speaker 5: it into the old coal fire pleasants power plant and
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  Speaker 5: make that a hydrogen power power plant. They've yet to
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  Speaker 5: actually do this, there's no been there's been no demonstration
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  Speaker 5: project at scale yet to show this. But that's what
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to do. But I decided to go back
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  Speaker 5: and do a deep dive into how they acquired this
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  Speaker 5: power plant, which I thought was pretty interesting, uh, and
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  Speaker 5: then go back and look at the deal, the loan agreement,
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  Speaker 5: because you me, us taxpayers are giving this project fifty
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  Speaker 5: fifty million dollars.
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  Speaker 6: Million difference a lot of fifties in this story.
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  Speaker 5: So fifty million dollars in a in a loan, a
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  Speaker 5: low interest loan for this project. And I think some
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  Speaker 5: of the things that they had you said in their
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  Speaker 5: loan agreement. I don't want to say their lies, but
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying that they certainly exaggerated.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps the company we're talking about, the company, not the
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia people, yes, the company.
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  Speaker 5: And then that all goes back into the donations to
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  Speaker 5: this political action committee, which ultimately benefited Chris Warner. He
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  Speaker 5: got the bulk of the donations from this political action committee,
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  Speaker 5: and he was also executive director of the EDA, and
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  Speaker 5: interesting enough, also a member of the Public Energy Authority.
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  Speaker 5: So a lot of connections together.
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  Speaker 3: And so let's go back to the company. Honest, I
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  Speaker 3: remember when they came to West Virginia a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years ago. I first first became aware of them and
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  Speaker 3: had an opportunity to actually meet some of the people
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  Speaker 3: with the company at various events different the events around
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  Speaker 3: Charlestony came and they entertained and talked to a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the which is not uncommon. Please don't think I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying that they did anything wrong. And whining and dining,
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  Speaker 3: you know, elected officials, that's just what you do and
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  Speaker 3: vice versa to try to get them here. And I
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  Speaker 3: completely understand that. And so they were up in like
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  Speaker 3: up in your neck of the woods for a while.
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  Speaker 3: They also were doing looking at some projects in extreme
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  Speaker 3: southern West Virginia and the Bluefield Princeton area. But there's
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  Speaker 3: telling a lot, a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they've got three different real projects going on
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  Speaker 5: to the state. On this Building Technologies, which is trying
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  Speaker 5: to build a proprietary basically modular construction for small building,
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  Speaker 5: small houses and that sort of thing. It's based out
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  Speaker 5: of Bluefield. I think it's where they have a manufacturing plant.
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  Speaker 5: They haven't really gotten started yet. They've blamed a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things for that supply chain, all sorts of issues,
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  Speaker 5: but they haven't got started for that. And then the
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  Speaker 5: other one is a complicated name, but let's just say
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  Speaker 5: they want to take rare earth minerals and try to
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  Speaker 5: get those out of coal empowerments. They haven't been able
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  Speaker 5: to acquire any land. Yeah, but those two projects at
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  Speaker 5: least don't have any state money. The Omnius Fuel Technologies
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  Speaker 5: project at Pleasant's Power goes by several different names, but
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  Speaker 5: we'll stick with that one for now. That's the only
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  Speaker 5: one that has a state funded, taxpayer funded low interest loan,
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  Speaker 5: which I think is what makes it interesting. So I
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  Speaker 5: think it's fair game that kind of quiz this, and
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  Speaker 5: it's a project I've written positively about. Sure, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 5: if they could do what they want to do up there,
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  Speaker 5: it could be game changing. It could be really, really great.
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  Speaker 5: And of course they acquired this power plant that was
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  Speaker 5: basically it was shut down. They were on the verge
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  Speaker 5: of being able to the prior company and owned that
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  Speaker 5: ETEM was going to demolish that power plant. That's what
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  Speaker 5: they were going to do. The only thing that stopped
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  Speaker 5: them from doing that was a bill that was passed
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  Speaker 5: by the legislature in twenty twenty three that required any
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  Speaker 5: demolition or decommission of a power plant to go through
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  Speaker 5: the Public Energy Authority, and that forced the sale of
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  Speaker 5: that plant ultimately to Omnis.
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  Speaker 6: Just how they acquired it.
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  Speaker 3: so have you been able since the story first? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: let me back up way ahead of myself here. So
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  Speaker 3: what seems to be in your mind the question and
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  Speaker 3: the minds of you and other members of the media
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  Speaker 3: that have questions. What seems to be the rub here?
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  Speaker 3: Steven Well?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think you got some issues with the
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  Speaker 5: Senate built because one of the people that lobbied for
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  Speaker 5: that bill behind the scenes is former Senate President Bill Cole,
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  Speaker 5: former Mercer County Republican lawmaker who lobbied for that bill.
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  Speaker 5: But he's also an investor in the Omnus companies, particularly
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  Speaker 5: this project of Pleasant's Power, the Omnis Building Technologies project,
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  Speaker 5: so he has a financial stake in the process. Being
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  Speaker 5: a former he's not a registered lobbyist, but as a
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  Speaker 5: former Senate president, he has a great deal of access
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  Speaker 5: to lawmakers that your typical lobbyist wouldn't have. And in
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  Speaker 5: some cases, this is kind of a slam dunk bill
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  Speaker 5: if it has the chance of saving power plants down
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  Speaker 5: the role. We're down the road. You and I both
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  Speaker 5: know there's not going to be any lawmakers that posed
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  Speaker 5: that and beyond.
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  Speaker 6: That bill passed pretty easily at the House.
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  Speaker 5: In the Senate in twenty twenty three. But their CEO,
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  Speaker 5: the company CEO, I'm the CEO, Simon Hodson, is on
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  Speaker 5: the record at a Public Energy Authority meeting in September
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty three saying that if they didn't have that bill,
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  Speaker 5: they wouldn't have been able to buy this power plant
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  Speaker 5: because the prior companies et EM and Energy Harbor didn't
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  Speaker 5: want to sell it, or at least didn't want to
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  Speaker 5: sell it to them because at the time, if he recalled,
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  Speaker 5: Appalatric Power and Wheeling Power were even looking into possibility
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  Speaker 5: of buying that plant. But without that Bill, Senate Bill
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  Speaker 5: six ZH nine, Omnis isn't able to buy the power plant,
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  Speaker 5: which we don't even know how much they actually bought
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  Speaker 5: it for. That's not ever been disclosed that I'm aware of.
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  Speaker 5: And Senate President, former Senate President Bill Cole was one
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  Speaker 5: of the big.
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  Speaker 6: Pushers of that.
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  Speaker 5: He was also very active behind the scenes with those
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  Speaker 5: meetings with the Public Energy Authority and with the EDA,
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  Speaker 5: intending the emergency meeting back in November twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 5: to approve that loan.
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  Speaker 3: But there's no Stephen I'm gonna, I mean, there is
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  Speaker 3: no smoking gun necessarily for somebody who is a concerned citizen,
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  Speaker 3: concerned business person, I mean nobody. I don't know Bill
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  Speaker 3: Cole that well. I know of him. I've been in
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  Speaker 3: meetings with him, you know, in the past and so
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  Speaker 3: on and so forth.
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  Speaker 6: I worked for him.
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  Speaker 3: I would oh, I didn't know that. I would say,
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  Speaker 3: no one would ever question Bill Cole's love for West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: And this is not uncommon for people that are outside
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  Speaker 3: of politics that are successful business people to get in
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  Speaker 3: and say hey, we need this in our home count
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  Speaker 3: or we need this in our state or whatever. So
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  Speaker 3: that's not necessarily in common, and I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily prove point any wrongdoing.
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  Speaker 6: No it doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: And I talked to Bill Cole about that for my story,
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  Speaker 5: and he certainly pushed back. He said, you know, he
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  Speaker 5: didn't do this for a financial self interest. He did
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  Speaker 5: this because he wanted to save a power plant, save
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  Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty jobs that would have been lost otherwise.
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  Speaker 5: And I have no doubt that he believes that. But
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  Speaker 5: when you go into the pack donations, see how much
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  Speaker 5: he gave. Fifty thousand dollars is a big chunk of money.
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  Speaker 5: Now he donates to everybody, I mean, that's he donates
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  Speaker 5: to Republican candidates. That's not uncommon. But throwing fifty thousand
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  Speaker 5: dollars into a pack that later endorses and then gives
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  Speaker 5: almost entirely the vast majority of its donations into either
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  Speaker 5: supporting EDA director Chris Warner for Republican Secretary of State
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  Speaker 5: or opposing his opponents, particularly Democrat turned Republican former lawmaker
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  Speaker 5: Doug scaff that that's a big chunk of money, and
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  Speaker 5: the fact that it was seated in part by two
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  Speaker 5: people involved with OMNIS. I think that warrants further Screwtinay.
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  Speaker 3: You said he met do Auctorbilt call. Have you talked
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  Speaker 3: to anybody, let's start with Omnis. Have you talked to
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  Speaker 3: anybody from Omnous about this?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: They had contracted with a crisis communications firm.
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  Speaker 3: Which is always not a good thing when they say
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  Speaker 3: that we've contracted with a crisis communications Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, last Thursday. They reached out to me Friday afternoon.
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  Speaker 5: That was pretty late in regards to my deadline, but
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  Speaker 5: I made accommodations form. I provided them a list of
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  Speaker 5: questions to get me answers to, and they did, and
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  Speaker 5: they pushed back on some of the stuff, particularly on
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  Speaker 5: the contract stuff and my story. I talked about the
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  Speaker 5: fact that according to the loan agreement, they're supposed to
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  Speaker 5: be buying property next door to the plant where they
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  Speaker 5: share basically a border with a company called Sinesco used
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  Speaker 5: to be called Software. They're trying to buy property there
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  Speaker 5: so they could put their demonstration projects on. To date,
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  Speaker 5: that hasn't happened. They were supposed to have that locked
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  Speaker 5: down by April of this year according to the loan agreement.
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  Speaker 5: They haven't been able to do that yet, So is
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  Speaker 5: that requirement of the loan agreement. I think that's something
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  Speaker 5: that's worth asking. The other issue, too, is the fact
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  Speaker 5: that they say that they applied for a Department of
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  Speaker 5: Energy Title seventeen Clean Energy Financing loan for this project. Well,
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  Speaker 5: there's a question as to whether they've actually applied for
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  Speaker 5: it or whether they're just talking to DOE officials. Because
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  Speaker 5: that loan program you don't apply for. They invite you
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  Speaker 5: to apply. So it's not like you go pull like
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  Speaker 5: a piece of paper out of a thing, sign it,
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  Speaker 5: turn it in done. They have to invite you, and
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  Speaker 5: you have to meet a lot of criteria in order
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  Speaker 5: to be invited to apply. Now they're parting their language
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  Speaker 5: by saying, well, we're in the application process. Well what
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  Speaker 5: does that mean? My question is did they apply at
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  Speaker 5: the time that they did their loan agreement to this project.
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  Speaker 5: DOE won't confirm because they don't do that sort of thing,
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  Speaker 5: But I think it's important to know because the state
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  Speaker 5: might not have given them that loan if they If
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  Speaker 5: they'd said that they hadn't applied yet, or maybe they
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  Speaker 5: would have got it, but you know, they were still
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  Speaker 5: saying we're in the process.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, And I will state that if anyone
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  Speaker 3: and I know this goes for Steve and anybody else,
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  Speaker 3: but on specifically on my show, that if there is
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  Speaker 3: anyone that's any part of the story that would love
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  Speaker 3: talking to Stephen and Allen Adams with a story that
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  Speaker 3: broke via Ogden newspapers, their websites or social media's. And
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  Speaker 3: I just guess actually in the hard news hard newspaper
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  Speaker 3: somewhere as well, about this whole omnous thing. And it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: just very very complicated, as Stephen to stick around for
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: at least part of another segment. How did this whole story,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Stephen come to light in the first place? Now, I know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I know the Wall Street Journal did a piece a
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: month or so ago, and they were on it early,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: but that was really more of a story about Omnus
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  Speaker 3: and some of the claims that they had made to
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia, and it was actually part of a much
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: bigger story, But it didn't really get quite as involved.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Because it's a national publication, they're not going to get
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: quite as involved in the West Virginia nuances as what
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: media sources here are. But how did the whole thing
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: come to light?
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: For sure, Yeah, the Wall Street Journal story was definitely
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: the catalyst. I think for a lot of these things.
• 18:51
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: I've written in some of my stories about some of
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: the criticisms of the project and whether it is able
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: to do what it says it's going to do. Again,
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: coal really hot, take graphite out one end, take hydrogen
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: over to the power plant, power to power plant. There's
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: people that think that that is probably.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: Hard to do. They haven't seen it tested at scale.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: The company is.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: I guess it's supposed to be tested at scale either
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: this week or sometime this month. If they can prove
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: what their technology can do. I think it's a good thing.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I think it's a it's a wonderful thing, and we'll
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: see if they can do it. But there are some
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: things that the Wall Street Journal story kind of missed
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: just from not being here, and at the same time,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: having written about this project pretty much as soon as
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I heard the whispers over a year ago that this
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: was possibility, you know, writing all those stories. When you're
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: down in the forest, you don't see the forest for
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: the trees. So the Wall Street Journal story store gave
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: me an opportunity to kind of take a step back
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: and look at the whole landscape. And that's how I
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: kind of like, well, wait, it's kind of interesting what
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: happened with Senate Bill six so nine? What's going on
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: with the loan agreement? Or are they meeting their loan
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: agreement requirements? And again I had stumbled upon some of
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: this stuff just looking into conservative policy action, like oh
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: wait a minute, that's all.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: It all kind of comes together, Yeah, in a weird,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: convoluted kind of way. A leads to be, which leads
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  Speaker 3: to C.
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  Speaker 5: That's exactly right. So it is a complicated story. I'd
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: encourage you to read it. Probably the best place to
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: find that it's the partnerspurg News and Sentinel, so you
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: can find it online there. But it is a long,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: complicated story, and there's gonna be more stories really spinning
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: off of the Conservative Policy Action angle list as well.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's been some interesting donations from a company
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: called Safeco, which is doing the remediation over its century
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: aluminum in regards to the Berkshire Hathaway project.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Going on over there.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Well, the EEDA has paid about twelve million dollars for
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Safeco to be able to do these projects. Well, Safeco,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: the company has donated two fifty thousand dollars donations. It's
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: a total one hundred thousand dollars to Conservative Policy Action.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, there needs to be some kind of answers
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: about that because that's interesting. So I think there's gonna
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: be more stuff come out of these stories, for sure,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: as we learn more about the pack, as we learn
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: more about some of these companies.
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  Speaker 12: M M.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's as I said, as I said from the
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: get go, it is a very very complicated and complex story.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: A matter of fact, somebody texted the show and said,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I've been following this story and I'm still having a
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: hard time with it. You know, when they're we're trying
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: to so uh So, I know you and others are
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: going to be continued to talk about the story, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I also know and I don't want to steal Hoppies thunder,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: but I do think it kind of leads me to
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: a point I'm gonna get into. After you leave, are
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: you still are you still allowed to ask the governor questions?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Or are you on the brad band list too?
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: I'm still on the on the good list for now,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: And I say for now because who knows, because I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: if we can't ask to go in their questions about
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: his personal finances, I mean after the weekend that he
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: had last week, especially ending with the possible auction of
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: the Greenbrier at the end of the month, which I
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: think we all know is a judge will probably step
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: in and that will get stayed and all that sort
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: of stuff and they'll get fog in court. But we
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: do need answers to those questions. They are valid questions
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: to ask, and he can't shy away from him. And
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: if he thinks he's going to shy away from us, boy,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: he's going to be in for a world to hurt
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: if he gets to DC and has to deal with
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: the Washington Press Court, which are going to be waiting
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: for him at the chamber. They're gonna be waiting for
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: him to the elevators, and they're going to be waiting
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: for him at the trams to take you back to
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: the Senate office.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: And they got a lot more bodies than what Ogden
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: or Metro News or the Gaze mail. They got a
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: lot more bodies they can put out there.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: No, he needs to be able to answer questions about that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: They're valid questions as long as most of your businesses
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: aren't in blind trusts. And you can't just band reporters
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: because you don't want those, you know, questions out there.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: It is what it is.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, you shouldn't shy away from it. And frankly,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Brad should not be bad Brad.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Should be reading Team Brad, Team Brad. Yeah, free Brad,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Free Brad, Ryan. Can we get some T shirts or
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: your hashtag thing kind of going free Brad? We want
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: we want Brad freed. Actually, I had a text here
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: said I'm taking back my comment about the strong media
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: not standing together against Jim Justice. Metro News Gazette and
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Steve and Allen Adams are on the case. They're upholding
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: the tradition of the fourth of State, stay together and
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: demand in person press conferences with Justice and his administration.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think we should have him. I'll be honest.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: You know, you always want your government officials to talk.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: But we don't need weekly briefings. We don't need weekly
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: press conferences. But if you're going to have press conferences
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: and you're going to talk to the press, you should
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: talk to the press. And that should be an open
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: environment where you can take follow up questions. Yeah, you
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: can limit the time and that sort of thing. That's
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: not uncommon, but that's where it used to be. That
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: was the way it was done before COVID. And I
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: hate to tell the governor, but if you look at
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: the YouTube views for just regular people watching these briefings
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: watching them, so, I don't know what good they're getting
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: out of them other than they're making him feel good.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Well, and I think this is, in my opinion though,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: this is a symptom of a much larger problem because
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: when was the last time and I'm not trying to
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: play what about is them? But when was the last
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: time that you saw President Biden doing an actual press conference?
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: When was the last time you saw Donald Trump, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: doing an actual press conference, you know, and I mean
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: a traditional I don't know what the questions are going
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: to be fire away And in West Virginia, many governors,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Republican and Democrat did it. As president, many presidents Republican
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and Democrat did it, from Obama to Clinton to Bush, Reagan.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I mean they they did this. We kind of gotten
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: into this area right now where and I don't know
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: if it's you know, we have we have Trump who
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: who I guess coined the term fake news, and now
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: we've almost turned the media and these governmental officials almost
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: into adversaries, which is not the way it's supposed to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: be because everybody has just got a job to do.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: And I would urge people to go back and read
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Hoppies commentary today, which I think you even reached it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: It was very very good.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Commentary about this whole thing. And I'll let you give
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: you thirty second, let you close.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's one of those things where, yeah, there's a
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: push and a shove that comes between the press and
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: elected officials.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: That's just the way it is.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: But I can tell you in my case, and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: don't want to speak for Brad, but I feel it's
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: the same way we go where the stories go, we
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: go where the information goes, and Frankly, you don't talk
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: to us, then we have what we have. Your obligation
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: should be to talk to us. And if we're wrong
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: or if we're going the wrong direction, you can help
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: us get there. But we don't get there if you
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: don't talk to us.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: So we got to talk.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Let's talk. Steven L. Adams, So where can people read
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: your stuff again?
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Purtisburg News, Wheeling Intelligencer, weird In Daily Times, Inner Mountain
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: and Elkins Journal, Martinsburg and the Steven MSWV on ex
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  Speaker 5: Twitter And.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Then you're kind of hoppy, I think around eleven thirty
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: year so this morning, is that right?
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: That's right. We'll be talking more about this issue with
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: justice in the media primarily.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: That's what that'll be about. And the band Brad. I'm
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: a band, Brad from this show too. The band Brad.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: He's banned Brad your band. You can't come on this show.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Boo.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I'm kiddy, Steve, and I appreciate you being here.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 3: that the WVRC Media app, available for your phones or
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  Speaker 3: of our radio stations around the state in one location,
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  Speaker 3: not just the Charleston cluster, but from all of our
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  Speaker 3: towns from Beckley to Morgantown to Martinsburg, sort by town
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  Speaker 3: or music format or whatever however you want to do it.
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  Speaker 3: So please go get those apps now, or at least
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: when you can safely do so. If you're driving, do
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: not get those apps now. So let me We've got
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Charleston Mayor Amy Good when coming up here momentarily. But
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: before I get to that, I do want to give
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: my two cents on the press. And you know you're
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: listening to an old guy when he uses the term press.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: You can call it press, you call it media, whatever
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: you want to call it. The people like us who
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: help bring you the info, you know, whether it's TV
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: station's papers, online stuff, whatever. And I, like many of you,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: read Phil Cabor's column weekly in the Exact Mail and now,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: because I'm an old school that actually means I actually
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: read them with my Saturday morning cup of coffee around
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: six thirty or so each week. Because I'm that guy.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Let me just say this, I have never once spoken
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: to Phil Kabler, really haven't been around him. Maybe a
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: time or two, couple of different media events or whatever.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: And when I used to work in the Capitol, I
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: would see him in the cafeteria or whatever. So generally speaking,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: generally speaking with all due respect, I'm not always a
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: big fan of his work. Nothing personal. Like I said,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I don't even know the guy, but I do think
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: he hit the nail on the head with his Saturday
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: column about the governor and the governor's apparent disdain for
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: any news outlet that doesn't give him the most glowing
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: of coverage available. You know, if the governor has been
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: on this show many times in the past, he's always
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: welcome to come on anytime he likes. But I did
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: like what Kabler had to say on Saturday when talking
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: about Governor Justice. He was referring to the ongoing financial
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: problems with the governor and his family company, and how
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Governor Justice got very irritated, as I said at our
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: own Brad mclhanuney hashtag free Brad because Brad asked him
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: specifically about some of those latest issues. So the governor
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: simply quit allowing Brad to question him period. He's been
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: cut off, which is very unfortunate because Brad is a
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: is a class act. He is extremely good at his job,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: very fair in my opinion, very thorough, and just an
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: all around good dude. And we are lucky to have
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Brad here to be honest. But getting back to Kabler,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: he was talking about the governor's so called press events
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: or whatever he calls him. He started as Steve and
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I talked about during COVID, and the Governor used the
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: time to update the public as to what was, you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to what was happening fair enough, But here we are.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: That was twenty twenty and now we're in twenty twenty
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: four and we're still using the streaming as his way
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: to communicate with the press and ultimately to the public.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And Phil Kabler suggested that the press just simply stop
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: attending them, just basically boycott. And as I said, I
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: have always had a good relationship with the Governor's been
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: on this show many many times in staff. But as
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Steven alluded to, if he thinks the media in West
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Virginia is hard on him, how is he going to
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: handle the constant scrutiny coming from the national and in
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: many cases international media if he is elected to the
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: US Senate. West Virginia media is a walk in the
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: proverbial park compared to what he is going to face
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: when he is elected to the Senate, which I am
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: pretty confident that he will be. I mean, Governor, It's
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: not going to get any easier in Washington. In fact,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: it's going to get As I said, it comes down
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: to numbers. You know, not a whole lot of us
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: in the media in West Virginia. There's a whole heck
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: of a lot more in Washington and that are going
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: to be watching literally every step that he or anybody not.
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  Speaker 3: are you man?
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  Speaker 7: I am fabulous.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you something. Let's start with this.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 3: As someone who is a former member of the Disgusting Press,
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  Speaker 7: The media and my degree degrees.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just sign up for all this. You just
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 7: So I think two things. I was listening to you
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  Speaker 7: That's what I studied, that's what I did for more
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  Speaker 7: I can appreciate you should always be asked questions, right,
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  Speaker 7: think that there. I think that all public officials should
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  Speaker 7: to be a little bit of a of a give
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  Speaker 7: and take. But absolutely you should you should answer those.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we'll answer a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 3: But it's yeah, well, and that's the reason I brought
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I really can see it from both sides.
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  Speaker 7: I really can. And by the way, sometimes as public officials,
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  Speaker 7: I'll go ahead and say this, sometimes I want to
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  Speaker 7: reason as well, mainly around personnel issues, right, but or
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  Speaker 7: Yes, so I can give you a short answer and
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  Speaker 12: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So, speaking of which, this will transition perfectly to what
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  Speaker 3: I want to bring up next. City Council meets tonight.
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  Speaker 3: There's some talk, and there has been for some time
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  Speaker 7: There's two different things. There is the bill that council
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  Speaker 7: Member Robinson council Member Annie have been working on just
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  Speaker 7: But I think what you're talking about is that we
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  Speaker 7: the ballot and to have voters to give enough time
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: to put it on the ballot and have voters decide
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: what was stated in their petition, which you can do,
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: but state code requires that there is a larger number
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: of folks that have to be it's ten percent of
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  Speaker 7: all qualified voters. They had I think ten percent of
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  Speaker 7: all folks who did vote. So there's obviously a disparate
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: explain Yeah, the disparity or the differences, that is what Well,
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: state law here's here's the punchline, doesn't really matter. State
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: law trumps and so it is ten percent of all
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: qualified voters. So that would be you know, thirty three
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: hundred and change folks for the amount of qualified voters
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  Speaker 7: that we have.
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  Speaker 3: So what's going to happen tonight at city Council as
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: it pertains to this, Well.
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: It's the petition won't move forward, That's what will happen.
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: So that will not be put on the agenda, will
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: not be voted on, and then thus it will not
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: go on the ballot this November. But continuing these conversations
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: with the petitioners, by the way, council Member Robinson, who
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: has done an amazing job, and council Member Annie he's
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: also done an amazing job or working not only with
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: the petitioners but others to not only work on some
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: concerns that the petitioners had, but just to work on
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: some you know, questions that we have in the community.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: Are you know, why is it on the books that
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: we have first time you know, you're jail. You know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: it's available offense. What it shouldn't be first time? And
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: so there's going to be a discussion maybe about the
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: well probably about the petition tonight, but then possibly about
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: future bills that address uh, these first time offenses and
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: jailable offenses for simple simple possession.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, marijuana, All right, real quick, I only get about
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: a minute here. Yeah, Capital Sports Complex apparently Aquatic is
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: not going to be a part of it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: Is not That is what our Sports Facilities Inc. The
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: management company that we hired uh to say, tell us
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: what you're saying, not only across that and not just
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: saying what's working across the country, uh with these sports facilities,
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: what we can do and how do we make money
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: off of this facility to continue you know, to continue
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: it for years to come so we don't have to
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: subsidize it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: And it so was their recommendation. So that's number one
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: and most important. Number two is the parking garages and
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: the bond holders that have captured and continue to have
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: the parking garages all right where we were supposed to
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: put you know, true basketball.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: That's not guy, but but it's still gonna happen. It's
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: just in a different form.
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: And no, by the way, let me say this, I
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: think we do need a second swimming pool. If we
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: want to be competitive, you have to have a second
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: swimming pool, Olympic sized swimming pool, a warm up lane.
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: But that should happen with an existing one. There's only
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: a couple maer.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you being here, Yes, thank you sir. And
• 52:22
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