Latest / SILVER / GOLD / $UFD Meme Coin Investing & Global Economics / SPECIAL GUEST: @JoeyMoose "MOOSE" - Talking Crypto, Memes, $UFD and $PENGU
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- 0:01Today, we're joined by a very special guest.
- 0:04He's a rising star in the world of Web Three.
- 0:07Everybody's talking about him. And I met him in Paris, France,
- 0:11when I went to the Ledger Open event.
- 0:14He was the very first person I met.
- 0:16And little did I know that I would go all the way to Paris
- 0:19and the first thing I would meet is a moose.
- 0:22Moose. Welcome to Ron's basement.
- 0:25Thanks for having me here man. Oh, my God, what a pleasure.
- 0:29Cannot believe it that we met in Paris.
- 0:32I think you were one of the first people I met in Paris.
- 0:34It was insane. It was like I, I didn't know
- 0:36what I was doing. I didn't know where I was.
- 0:38And I look, I'm like, I know you.
- 0:41And you're like, I know you. And I'm like, escape each other.
- 0:43A hug is incredible. And now we're here.
- 0:46Thanks. Yeah, it was, it was an it was a
- 0:48great experience. It was an overwhelming
- 0:50experience. And look, I'll just be
- 0:53completely honest, I was pretty nervous going into this
- 0:55incredible environment at Ledger and standing there and it really
- 1:00was great to meet you. I mean, from the very first
- 1:03minute I met you, I just sensed that you were a good guy, a
- 1:06great guy, and you kind of helped put me at ease a little
- 1:10bit Moose that, you know, that there were good people there.
- 1:12And then, of course, we met just a whole unbelievable number of
- 1:16other great people that work for Ledger and that were there for
- 1:19the big open event and the Nano Gen. 5 unveiling.
- 1:23So yeah, crazy isn't it? It's really crazy because you're
- 1:27right, I was also very uncomfortable in the beginning,
- 1:29right? I'm in a different country.
- 1:31I've never been there before. I'm there for a crypto event.
- 1:33I don't know who's there. I don't know one person that's
- 1:35going to be there ends up being I get put in a group, our group,
- 1:39because what happened was his Ledger showing us for people
- 1:42that don't know, we got, we got flown out there by Ledger.
- 1:44We're affiliates with Ledger and they fly us out there and we
- 1:48don't know who we're seeing, what's going on, but they want
- 1:49to show us this property that they have.
- 1:51They have, I think that's their HQS and they have different
- 1:55floors of different stuff that basketball courts.
- 1:57They have a whole downstairs with lasers.
- 2:01And it's just the craziest phenomenon.
- 2:02And that there's different like liaisons that are like that have
- 2:06groups of people, right? So like we're part of a group
- 2:08and it's me, Ron, GG Crypto, a Tiffany Fang right from from
- 2:17Twitter, the crypto king, that guy that wins their award, the
- 2:20streaming awards. The Professor.
- 2:23Professor Crypto. Professor Crypto, Professor
- 2:25Crypto, right. And we're all like so diverse
- 2:27and different in all different ways.
- 2:29We're all from different places and, and we're all a squad and
- 2:33we're taking going on, going down.
- 2:34You're checking things out. It was so fun, man.
- 2:37Yeah. But but you know what?
- 2:39Then the entire group of people that you just mentioned, when I
- 2:42look back at it, they were all really, and I say this all the
- 2:46time, but they were all really good, nice quality people.
- 2:49And I mean, from all over the world, all diverse backgrounds.
- 2:53I mean, you got me. I'm kind of like the grandpa of
- 2:56crypto, right? You've got I'm wearing my button
- 2:59down Oxford shirt. You've got people that are
- 3:01wearing, you know, probably socks that are that are they
- 3:04cost more than my entire outfit. But we we all got together and
- 3:08it was just a wonderful time. And I think I think it's a good,
- 3:12a good sign for crypto in general.
- 3:14It was. It was super cool.
- 3:17Yeah, it was cool to see people that I communicate with or that
- 3:21I have communicated with or somebody who I watched, like I
- 3:23watched your streams, I've watched what you've done.
- 3:27I've kept up with your story and seeing you in person and being
- 3:30part of your group and having fun and talking and talking for
- 3:35a really long time. We were with each other the
- 3:36entire day, the entire few days. You see a different side and
- 3:42it's cool. It's this crypto space.
- 3:45It's like I used to play Xbox when I was younger and I used to
- 3:47become friends with random people.
- 3:50Yeah, across the world. And it's like, imagine meeting
- 3:52these people that like whatever that you speak to or that you
- 3:54interact with. It's so cool.
- 3:56It's it's amazing. Yeah.
- 3:58And to be there for like this, unbelievable.
- 4:01I mean, Ledger's a first class company.
- 4:03I mean, that was like just an unbelievable event that they put
- 4:06on unveiling the new Nano Gen. 5 and just in scene like just
- 4:13being part of something that I don't know, it was almost like a
- 4:16movie. But but walking away and feeling
- 4:20like this is, you know, there's good thing.
- 4:22There are good things going on in crypto.
- 4:24And the other thing, you know, you mentioned the dungeon.
- 4:26I like to call that the basement.
- 4:28I felt most comfortable when I was down there.
- 4:30I don't know why, you know, down in the basement of that
- 4:32building. Yeah, but but the roof as well.
- 4:36And we won't go up. But I mean, they have this
- 4:37rooftop deck that is like, it's like the one of the tallest
- 4:40buildings in that central district of Paris.
- 4:44And you can like see the entire city.
- 4:46I mean, it's just was just absolutely incredible.
- 4:49Yeah, I got to say, I mean, listen, if we're being
- 4:51transparent, there's stuff going on with Ledger.
- 4:53It's not. There's like things every day
- 4:55I'm reading something about Ledger.
- 4:57Yeah. These guys treated us like
- 4:58family. They actually have an insane
- 5:02operation going on. Like we saw it live.
- 5:04We. Got this.
- 5:05People actually working on the chips downstairs, how it works,
- 5:09the people involved, the different partnerships that
- 5:12they're making, like the store that they have within their
- 5:14building, like they have a store within their building.
- 5:16It's insane, honestly, we got to see your first answer.
- 5:19We have a different side. So like if there's fun, if
- 5:21there's this, we got to see like really what goes on, you know,
- 5:25behind it all. And I love working with Ledger,
- 5:27to be honest. Like that's one of my favorite
- 5:29partnerships I have. Yeah, Yeah, they are.
- 5:31They are awesome. So I introduced you as a rising
- 5:36star shooting star in very becoming a very influential
- 5:40person in the world of Web three.
- 5:42I know that. And I have the big Penguin back
- 5:44there, the pengu. I know you're you're involved
- 5:46with Pengu. Tell us for my audience, tell us
- 5:50about you and your your your journey that got you to where
- 5:55you are today and kind of what you're doing now.
- 5:58And then later I'm going to ask you about your thoughts on
- 6:00crypto in general, meme coins, NFTSI know you're involved in.
- 6:04So we got a lot of great stuff to talk about.
- 6:06But, you know, let's say, let's say I met your it's your wife,
- 6:10correct? That was with you.
- 6:12Yes. Yeah.
- 6:13Let's say your wife's at lunch with her friends.
- 6:16OK. Her girlfriends and all the
- 6:19girls are bragging about their husbands.
- 6:21What? What?
- 6:22What She what? What is she saying to her
- 6:24friends? So go ahead and brag for a
- 6:26little bit about Joey Moose. What?
- 6:27What's she telling her friends about Joey?
- 6:29I want to ask you the same question.
- 6:31By the way, I'm asking that question back to you.
- 6:34Because we get well, you know, that's OK because I have
- 6:36upstairs Susie. She communicates on
- 6:38walkie-talkie. I'm due, I'm due for some
- 6:42compliments. So go go ahead, Moose.
- 6:45That's incredible. If she actually responds to you
- 6:47I will be in awe. I'd be.
- 6:49In awe. Oh, hold on, Susie.
- 6:51Are you there? Over you.
- 6:53Have to say over. Uh oh.
- 6:56Her batteries are going dead, so I'll have to get some new
- 6:58batteries for her. Yeah, her batteries.
- 7:02Oh, man, I'm, I'm not prepared. I'll get I'll get some new
- 7:05batteries. Go ahead, Moose.
- 7:06Tell me, Tell me about what do I brag about Moose for a few
- 7:09minutes? I don't know what she's saying.
- 7:13OK, funny enough, I think that I'm really close with my wife
- 7:17and I'm really transparent with her.
- 7:19Like I don't really like hide anything.
- 7:20Like, you know, if I if I win, if I lose, I say the numbers.
- 7:24Like I think that I got to a point where she's kind of like
- 7:28my, my like she's my supporter. Like she's not like in the
- 7:33beginning of a relationship, you have to think like, oh, like you
- 7:36got to be careful numbers that you say, like certain things,
- 7:39high expectations, low expectations.
- 7:40Oh, I lost this amount. What's wrong with you?
- 7:42Look, I told her I'm like recently I was like, I lost a
- 7:46lot of money gambling like and I showed it to her and she wasn't
- 7:51like, what are you doing? Like I would expect that like,
- 7:54what do you do? Like a parent, like you're
- 7:56messing your life up. You're this, she's like, all
- 7:59right, You're you're you're going to, you know, you got
- 8:01this. Let's go.
- 8:02You got where you are because of who you are.
- 8:04Don't lose it. Don't make mistakes.
- 8:06Let's go lock in. Like she knows what to tell me
- 8:09to like keep me going and motivate me.
- 8:11What she says behind closed doors, I don't know because it's
- 8:15because it's, it's such AI don't even know how she explains this
- 8:18to people. But I'd be lying if I say she
- 8:20doesn't understand what I do because she does.
- 8:22Yeah. It's hard to explain to anyone
- 8:24what I do. My friends, they say I'm in a
- 8:26group chat with like I'm in a group chat with like 20 be 25
- 8:29friends from like school. And they all, they say all the
- 8:32time they're like, we need to have something called career day
- 8:35where we all get together at a restaurant and everybody
- 8:38explains what they do. And we're doing this
- 8:40specifically for Moose because we all don't understand what he
- 8:42does. We don't understand what he
- 8:44does. And I'm like, sometimes I don't
- 8:45even understand what I do It's crazy.
- 8:48It's it's funny. It's funny you say that because
- 8:51I completely relate. And like I was talking to my
- 8:55uncle yesterday, he's been his 70s and he said, I know you're
- 8:58really busy with that Bitcoin thing that you're doing.
- 9:01You know, that's what like a lot of people say they think crypto
- 9:03and they think Bitcoin and I'm like, yeah, it's keeping me real
- 9:06busy. So definitely I relate.
- 9:09They think you created Bitcoin. Yeah, I wish.
- 9:12Yeah, right. They're like, which coin did you
- 9:15launch? And I'm like, Oh my God.
- 9:17Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah.
- 9:19That's funny because I call UFD baby Bitcoin.
- 9:21But yeah, it's it's very it is challenging and you know, I'm 55
- 9:25years old and you're, you're probably in your 20s still is
- 9:28that I'm. 27. 27, yeah. And like, dude, when I was 27,
- 9:33that's almost 30 years ago, the thought of doing what I'm doing
- 9:37now, that didn't exist, right? I mean, I always tell people
- 9:41like, we are really lucky right now because #1 the technology,
- 9:45right? You're in New York, right?
- 9:47Is that correct? Yeah.
- 9:49Yeah, you're in New York. I'm in a basement in Saint Louis
- 9:52and we're broadcasting, I mean, the people all over the world.
- 9:56I mean, you know, I'm telling you, like, I don't think we
- 9:58realize how lucky we are just to be able to do that.
- 10:01And then on top of that, we've got the world of crypto and
- 10:04communities. I mean, I know you're building
- 10:06and I want to hear all about it, right?
- 10:08Like a really awesome community that we can build, these
- 10:11communities that create real value.
- 10:13And and then on top of that, we have the crypto thing, which is,
- 10:16I mean like we're, I'm telling you Moose, we're on the leading
- 10:19edge. We're, we're on the leading
- 10:21edge. And it's funny, I know you said
- 10:23that if you would have 30 years ago or whatever it is, how about
- 10:26this four years ago or five or six years ago?
- 10:28Yeah. I, I, I had, I had no idea.
- 10:31I was like, what? What this was.
- 10:33I had no idea I was capable of doing any of this stuff.
- 10:36I was some kid that knew nothing.
- 10:39And you know, I was striving and I was always a kid that I always
- 10:43just wanted to have fun and never prioritize studies or work
- 10:46or how to work ethic or, you know, knew how to handle my
- 10:50money the right way or, and I just it's crazy.
- 10:53It's it's all just it's why the opportunities we've gotten.
- 10:56So and also you and what you've completed and, and you doing
- 10:59tech and sending me stream yard links and your friends probably
- 11:02and your uncle have no idea that they probably think you're a
- 11:05wizard, a tech wizard. Well, any, anyone who's been
- 11:09around UFD for the last year knows that it's kind of a
- 11:12running joke. I'm not a tech wizard, but I've
- 11:15learned, right? And there's so much fun.
- 11:17And you kind of talked about yourself like four or five years
- 11:20ago. It's fun to learn and it's fun
- 11:23to grow these communities. I mean, that's where the real, I
- 11:27mean the communities. And again, I know you've got a
- 11:29huge community, 130,000 followers.
- 11:32I got to remember later to pull up your ex profile so everybody
- 11:35can follow you. But I mean, you've got a huge
- 11:38following going. It's, you know, we really are.
- 11:40I tell you what, Moose, and not to go too far down this path,
- 11:43but I feel like the the position that we're in right now, that
- 11:47we're us being able to do this is real similar to like when the
- 11:50printing press was invented whenever the heck that was 1000
- 11:54years ago. Like we are in this like big
- 11:56transfer, like people all over the world follow you, right,
- 12:00Moose? Like all over the world.
- 12:01And you too. Yeah, It's insane, honestly.
- 12:05Yeah, yeah, it's insane. I have friends.
- 12:07I have friends from Africa, I have friends from Philippines, I
- 12:10have friends from the UKI have friends from everywhere.
- 12:14You're all all 7 continents. Maybe not Antarctica, but
- 12:17there's there's maybe all six continents.
- 12:21And you know, it's one of the coolest things because before I
- 12:23got into UFD in the crypto, I was a gold and silver YouTube
- 12:28for four, three years. You have a ton of silver, right?
- 12:32Yeah, I don't keep it at my house, but yeah, I don't.
- 12:34I don't have a ton but I have silver.
- 12:36Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
- 12:38No, you're fine and I don't have a ton, but I do have silver.
- 12:42I've always loved silver and gold.
- 12:44Really love silver. Primarily, I love silver.
- 12:46You told me that's you told me you.
- 12:48Love. Yeah, but but what's cool is
- 12:50those people are all over the world too.
- 12:52Crypto and precious metals are very, very similar.
- 12:56I mean, except for the fact that one is 5000 years old and
- 12:59physical and crypto is 15 years old and digital.
- 13:04But besides that, they're like almost it.
- 13:06But to get back to the point, that's so cool is so and gold
- 13:09and silver are valuable all around the world, just like
- 13:12crypto. So yeah, I've said that before.
- 13:14Like I've got people everywhere in the world.
- 13:17And I don't say this in a bragging way, but I really
- 13:19believe like I could get on a plane, fly anywhere in the world
- 13:23and somebody would be willing to like hook up with me, meet up
- 13:26with me. And a lot of them.
- 13:27And they've offered. I'm like, you could stay at my
- 13:29house. I mean, it's like, it's it's
- 13:31real relationships that we're building.
- 13:33I'm gonna go get batteries. Moose, you keep talking.
- 13:36I know you have a gift for gabs of the state.
- 13:38I'll be right back. Take me one second.
- 13:40Go ahead, don't worry, I'll hold down the Fort.
- 13:42Guys, you got to notice something if you're here, if
- 13:44this is, if you're from my community or in UFDI, got to
- 13:47meet Ron for myself. This guy and my, my wife
- 13:51Mousette, she, I, I, I told her I'm like, oh, I have something.
- 13:54I have something in the morning last night.
- 13:56I told her and she's like, hey, let's go.
- 13:59I told chef, that's chef. I told Moussette, I said, I have
- 14:03something in the morning tomorrow.
- 14:04And then it clicked and I was like, Oh yeah, I'm, I'm doing it
- 14:06with Ron's basement. She goes Ron from Paris.
- 14:08They go, yeah, she goes, I love him.
- 14:09That guy's a heart of gold. And I'm like, yes, so there.
- 14:14You're you make a great impressions on everybody and
- 14:18your sweetness is is it's actually infectious how sweet
- 14:23you are and it makes other people want to want to be like
- 14:25you. And I think that, you know, I
- 14:28hope to be like you. I really.
- 14:29Do you know Moose? One thing I've learned over my
- 14:34years is like the importance of just being honest, having
- 14:38integrity and treating people the way that I want to be
- 14:41treated. And it's real simple to live
- 14:43that way and it feels a lot better.
- 14:46That's a big compliment that you gave me and I appreciate it.
- 14:49And I'll repeat, right? Like you were the first guy that
- 14:53I met in Paris at the Ledger headquarters.
- 14:56And I immediately felt the same thing.
- 14:58I was like this, you know, I could tell that it mean it's
- 15:01anybody going into a big event like that.
- 15:03I think it's going to be a little nervous.
- 15:06And I think, you know, especially it was like the first
- 15:09big event like that that I've been to and it was, you know,
- 15:14you, you set me at ease right off the bat.
- 15:16So it's awesome. Let me paint this setting.
- 15:19I I get, we all get there. There's a sign in desk right
- 15:22there like crazy about security when you get in there.
- 15:25And like, I see like my liaison, the person that's like taking
- 15:27care of it and they're on the opposite side.
- 15:29And I'm like, yo, could you just get us through?
- 15:30And like, no, you have to sign in.
- 15:31And, and I'm like, like this whole thing.
- 15:33And it's this touchscreen item, Joey.
- 15:38And I'm just gonna say that I got to get my wife.
- 15:41And I look and I see there's like three of those lines with
- 15:44those with those touchscreens in your stay.
- 15:46I see a guy 7 feet tall with his briefcase with the, with the
- 15:50armor out briefcase standing there, very crazy straight
- 15:53posture, just standing there, like wait and like looking
- 15:56around. And I'm like, yo, I know that.
- 15:58And I told like the liaison, the girl that's like, that's my
- 16:01representative for legend. I'm like, that's Ron's basement.
- 16:03That's UFT. She goes, yeah, I'll introduce
- 16:05you guys and I'm like, yo, I know you and we're in a circle.
- 16:07It's me, the girlfriend, Ledger, my wife and Rob.
- 16:10We're all in a circle. We're all just looking at each
- 16:11other, talking and I'm like, wow, this is insane.
- 16:14Like this is. So, yeah, but I brought, I
- 16:16brought a briefcase. And on the first day somebody
- 16:18said why'd you bring a briefcase?
- 16:20What's in the briefcase? And I'm like, I don't know why I
- 16:22brought it. I never opened it, but I carried
- 16:26it around all day long. Yeah.
- 16:31We were on our feet, man. We didn't.
- 16:32There was no breaks. We were.
- 16:34We were, really. Yeah, we learned learning,
- 16:37learning. Absolutely.
- 16:38So, So how did you get here? Moose?
- 16:41How long have you been in web three?
- 16:43Give us a little rundown on your your story, your journey, and I
- 16:47think people would be interested to hear because you've been
- 16:50wildly successful. And then later I want to ask you
- 16:54about when you met Mr. Beast. I think that's a great story.
- 16:56And I got some other questions for, but how did you, how did
- 16:58you get here? For sure, man.
- 17:02Yeah. I honestly like, I, I always
- 17:04thought like I always had this kind of like, I'd like to say
- 17:08like, well, I have like really crazy ADHD.
- 17:11And. It it comes with energy, I
- 17:13guess. And my whole life I always just
- 17:16wanted to just do different shit and dip my feet in different
- 17:18places and go different spots and meet different people.
- 17:21And I was never ever, ever like satisfied and contained.
- 17:24I never went to like, like I, I went to one school my whole
- 17:29childhood and then as I went to high school, I changed high
- 17:31schools, then I went back to the old school, then I worked for a
- 17:35year at another company, Then I went to college, then I, I went
- 17:38to a different college to finish it.
- 17:39Like I'm always switching. I'm always doing different
- 17:42stuff. I'm never just stand at home in
- 17:44one position doing the same thing.
- 17:45I've had so many different jobs doing different things, trying
- 17:47out different things. I love to do different stuff,
- 17:50traveling different places. I'm not a routine guy at all.
- 17:53My, I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow.
- 17:55I don't know what I was doing doing yesterday.
- 17:56I don't know what I'm doing today, and that's kind of the
- 17:59life I live. It's pros and cons.
- 18:03And I guess when I saw about the digital, it was NFT top shot.
- 18:07Sorry, it was NBA top shot like I was like, oh, digital moments.
- 18:09These are so cool. Let me get involved in this and
- 18:11I remember seeing it like on the on the timeline and I'm like,
- 18:13all right, I feel like if I don't get involved with this,
- 18:15I'm going to regret it. And this is cool like stocks and
- 18:18this and that I'm like, I don't want to be behind like I put
- 18:21your brand to use like find out how to use this.
- 18:23I remember watching the YouTube video.
- 18:24What's NBA top shot? What is this NFT thing?
- 18:27Boom, got involved, made my own Joey Moose account and the rest
- 18:32is history. I, I started showing up, I
- 18:34started, I started going to events, I started talking with
- 18:37people. I started with Twitter Spaces
- 18:39and honestly, less than a year ago, a few months ago, I said,
- 18:43you know what, let me live stream.
- 18:44I never thought I'd be good at that.
- 18:46I got a $15 camera from Amazon and I put it on top of my
- 18:50computer was Logitech. And you were doing it before
- 18:52everybody, by the way. I, I did it and I started the
- 18:57first thing I did was on abstract, right?
- 18:59My first live stream ever. Oh.
- 19:00Cool. Yeah, and I had one person show
- 19:04up and I'm like, I don't know what to say.
- 19:05I don't know what to do. And I'm like, this is horrible.
- 19:06And I'm talking to the one person.
- 19:08I'm like, yo, I don't think this is for me.
- 19:10And I close it. And I was like, I've never live
- 19:13streaming in my life. That was horrible.
- 19:15And then I said, you know what, let me try it again.
- 19:17And somebody's like, I forgot what happened.
- 19:19Like I was playing a game on mini clip of one of these fun
- 19:21websites. And then I'm like, you know
- 19:22what, let me let me have a drink, like grab like a bottle.
- 19:25I'm like, all right, this is for.
- 19:26And everybody's like, OK, drink chug, chug, chug.
- 19:28I started talking and I'm just, I'm just like doing anything.
- 19:31And I'm like, all right, you know what?
- 19:32Maybe I could entertain some people.
- 19:34And the streaming's just been a, a movie ever since.
- 19:37Like, I feel like this is the next step is streaming to people
- 19:41doing all of this from the comfort of my own home.
- 19:44I have a really like crazy setup here.
- 19:46I have two monitors. I have a HD camera, I have a
- 19:49mic, I have two lights. Like it's a real streaming setup
- 19:52and I love it. It's so easy, I'm learning new
- 19:55programs to stream on and I love it.
- 19:59This is a different kind of life.
- 20:02Well, I think people love live streams because they feel
- 20:06connected like you and I are connected right now, but there's
- 20:09almost 500 people with stream yards telling me that are also
- 20:14connected with us right now. And then there's going to be
- 20:15thousands of people that watch the, the, the recording of this
- 20:20as well. And you know, I love what you
- 20:22said also about the $15 Logitech camera, because for like the
- 20:26first two years that I made videos and live stream, I
- 20:29literally used a $100 Samsung Galaxy S10, I think it was.
- 20:36And I still, you'll laugh if you saw my setup.
- 20:39My setup is, is this with an old TV monitor and like 6 light
- 20:44bulbs that I have to light my, you know, light myself up.
- 20:47It's like you don't need, you know, it's great.
- 20:49It's like, it's like you can get started with almost anything.
- 20:52What people want is to be connected and to relate and to
- 20:56hear honesty and just see what people you know, to see what
- 20:59we're doing. And I agree with you, man.
- 21:01It's, I think it's the coolest thing ever.
- 21:04I mean, I think just like we are really lucky and fortunate to be
- 21:07able to do it. I mean, look, because of live
- 21:10streaming, you and I met, right? I mean, you know, and I'm look,
- 21:13we aren't going to sit here and say we're like best friends in
- 21:15the world. But I think if I came to New
- 21:17York and looked you up, we could hang out for a little bit,
- 21:20right? Or if you came to Saint Louis
- 21:21and and in the same is true for for everybody out there.
- 21:25So yeah. Awesome, you're a few things.
- 21:28One it never change your setup. I love it.
- 21:30You're, you got the coolest, most authentic set up.
- 21:33It's your lure. It's always got to be this way.
- 21:36Don't get any more, don't get any HD cameras.
- 21:38Leave everything the way it is. The next thing is, is that 100%?
- 21:43If you ever come to New York, I'm there without a doubt.
- 21:46You, you have a place by me. We could go out for dinner, we
- 21:49could go out for drinks. You could bring your wife, bring
- 21:51your kids, whatever it is. I'd love to go out with all of
- 21:53us. And the next thing is, is was,
- 21:59Oh, yeah, It was. The funniest thing was when we
- 22:01were in the Ledger facility, was in Paris, and you were talking
- 22:05to one of these people and they're like, oh, where are you
- 22:06from? And they're like, they were
- 22:07foreign. And you're like, oh, St.
- 22:10Louis. The guy's like, yeah, yeah.
- 22:13He shook his head. And I'm like, that guy has no
- 22:14idea what that is. Yeah.
- 22:16He's never heard of that in his life, but Saint Louis is.
- 22:21You know, yeah, some, some, some people, when I say the arch,
- 22:24they're like, Oh yeah, I've heard of the arch, right?
- 22:27The gate, the gateway, the gateway to the West.
- 22:30What about Pudgy? Is that was Pudgy Penguins?
- 22:33Was that like a big part of your of your journey and kind of
- 22:38getting you to where you are now is that?
- 22:40Yeah, it all started with a viral moment.
- 22:42I had a stream yesterday. I really got into depth about
- 22:45it. I'll I'll, I'll say it in a in a
- 22:47quick one. I basically got a pudgy Penguin
- 22:49when NFTI got it. Started getting involved in all
- 22:51these NFTS way early. And I got into Twitter Spaces
- 22:54and I started to cry in the Twitter spaces saying I am I
- 22:58Penguin, am I Penguin as me. I felt a big connection to my
- 23:00Penguin. That's right.
- 23:01That's right there. And I, I love my Penguin so
- 23:04much. It was like a 15 minute rant, a
- 23:06very passionate rant. And it got clipped the next day
- 23:10and it went viral. And all these big Twitter
- 23:12accounts at the time, I didn't have my Twitter account.
- 23:13I didn't never, I didn't make that yet all these big accounts
- 23:16started saying, who is this kid? Everybody wanted to find out who
- 23:18is this kid that's going nuts about a freaking NFT?
- 23:21This guy's nuts. There's a cult.
- 23:22It started getting all over platforms.
- 23:25I got felt very embarrassed the next day, but then I said, you
- 23:28know what, let me turn this into something.
- 23:30And I created my account and I wrote this is for my Penguin.
- 23:33And that was my first Joey Moose.
- 23:35My name is Joey. My friends always call me Moose.
- 23:38So yeah, I named it Joey Moose and boom from there.
- 23:42I was a big community member with Pudgy Penguins and once
- 23:46Luca Nets bought Pudgy Penguins that day that he bought it, he
- 23:50reached out to me and he was like, Yo, we need somebody on
- 23:51our team that's passionate, that can help us, that can, that's
- 23:54been there that knows the lore that like is, is a, is a guy
- 23:58and, you know, been working with pudgy Penguins ever since.
- 24:01I used to go on their retreats. I used to go to their strategy
- 24:04meetings every day. We used to do spaces all the
- 24:07time. I talk, talk to Luca on the
- 24:09regular. Like these were like, you know,
- 24:11that's, that's just, yeah, that's, and that really helped
- 24:14me in the beginning. That was my first like real job
- 24:17in the crypto space. I had a salary with them and
- 24:20yeah, it's, it's, it's been incredible ever since.
- 24:23Now I have a bigger role in Pingu and, you know, trying to
- 24:26push out the message and helping out with strategy and all that
- 24:29stuff. I see people are making fun of
- 24:31my, my Mason jar in the chat. I just opened up the chat.
- 24:35The chat's really active, man. And you got.
- 24:40So, so you were you were you were involved with with Pudgy
- 24:44Penguins before Luca bought it. Is that is that accurate?
- 24:47Yeah, right. When they came out, I wasn't, I
- 24:49was, I was never like employed by them.
- 24:51But once they came out, like I was always in the discord, I was
- 24:54always joining spaces. I was always like having like
- 24:57rants, like really passionate rats in there telling people
- 25:00like cold on we're going to the moon, love your Penguin, feel
- 25:04your Penguin, do everything that you know, I was just the
- 25:07passionate voice. And then once Luca got involved,
- 25:10like he needed to have some assets and he needed to just
- 25:13make some some moves. And that's when when things got
- 25:16more serious. Yeah, yeah.
- 25:17Well, Luca, I've talked to him a few times and actually let me
- 25:22back up. When I first created Unicorn
- 25:24Fart Dust, I had no idea there was an experiment.
- 25:27You know, I won't go into the details of that.
- 25:29Most, a lot of people know it already.
- 25:31I knew nothing about crypto. I knew nothing about meme coins.
- 25:34But I'd created a meme coin and somebody sent me a video, an
- 25:39interview with Luca. And I remember I was laying in
- 25:43my bed. It was like Unicorn Fart Dust
- 25:45was like 4 days old. And I watched this, this
- 25:49interview with Luca and I was at this is the honest to God truth.
- 25:53I was like, this guy is a genius.
- 25:55I didn't know who he was or anything really about pudgy
- 25:58Penguins. But I was like, this guy is
- 26:00really smart and what he says makes sense about community
- 26:04building, about crypto in general, about NFTS.
- 26:09And it was one of the like big turning points.
- 26:12And and then as a funny story, I'll tell you, you know, I like
- 26:15to say, you know, pirates, pirates have parrots on their
- 26:19shoulder. But every day when I'm down here
- 26:20in the basement, I have a giant pudgy Penguin that may look
- 26:24small, but I'm that thing is like the size of a Honda Civic.
- 26:28And so one day I get a call. One day I'm where Susie and I
- 26:31are here at home and I get a call.
- 26:33I have a like APO box at one of those UPS stores.
- 26:38And the guy that named Craig, he's like, hey, Ron, this is
- 26:40Craig at The UPS Store. He says this is he says this has
- 26:44never happened before. And I could tell he was a little
- 26:47shaken up. I'm like, well, what's going on?
- 26:49You said there's a package for you, but it won't fit through
- 26:51the front door of the store. Is there any way you can come up
- 26:54here? It was that.
- 26:57Big. It was that big.
- 26:59I get up and it's like on a wooden crate and this is giant,
- 27:02like, what is this? And I open it and like, Oh my
- 27:04God, that's a Penguin. And we had to take it off the
- 27:06crate. And I have a I'm very proud of
- 27:08my Honda Odyssey minivan 2013. We had to like stuff it in the
- 27:13back of the minivan and then it sat in our family room for like,
- 27:17I mean, it's heavy, Moose, be careful what you wish for.
- 27:20I mean, this thing, that thing's heavy and it's that in the, the
- 27:24living room. Yeah, whatever.
- 27:25For like, I don't know, like 2 months and then finally I'm
- 27:29like, let's bring it downstairs. I want to try to find it.
- 27:31Susie and I, I almost like broke our backs and got divorced
- 27:36during the process of taking that thing down the stuff.
- 27:39So anyway, Oh my. God, yeah, I I want one now
- 27:42you're making me regret it. I'm in a 750 square foot
- 27:45apartment. Like literally make me from here
- 27:48to there. This is how this is how big my
- 27:50apartment is. I don't know what I would do.
- 27:51My wife would kill me if I had that here.
- 27:52But I feel like I need it for the culture.
- 27:54I'm like it's it's. Crazy.
- 27:57You wouldn't be able to move. You would open your, you would
- 27:59open your apartment door and and be you'd have about two square
- 28:02feet. To get two people, man.
- 28:05To get around. All right, tell us about meeting
- 28:07Mr. Beast. I want to hear about that
- 28:09adventure, if you will. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 28:12I always had it was like manifested like I'll definitely
- 28:15know this guy. I'll talk to this guy.
- 28:16I never I never like shut anything out right?
- 28:18Like in my head, I'm just like I could do anything.
- 28:20I could speak to anyone very easily and I don't know what
- 28:24happened. I have notifications on for him
- 28:26and because I forgot what it was, he had something and then
- 28:29all of a sudden he put a link out and usually you're not
- 28:32supposed to click links, but I don't know for some reason I
- 28:34clicked the link as soon as possible and it said Beast games
- 28:38and he's launched not Beast games.
- 28:39He's launching some kind of festival or whatever it is or,
- 28:43or, or, or carnival or whatever. So I clicked it and I got
- 28:47tickets just in case, like it was just an investment or
- 28:50whatever. And then after I bought it, it
- 28:52was like 65 bucks. After I bought it, I see that
- 28:55it's in Saudi Arabia and I'm like, oh, wow, OK, I'm
- 28:59definitely not going to that. So I decided I'm like, OK, how
- 29:01can I turn this into a positive thing?
- 29:03So I, I, I screenshot and I'm like, all right, let's do this.
- 29:07I tweet, I write, I just got tickets and like right away.
- 29:09This was within 5 minutes of his post.
- 29:11I quote tweeted and I wrote, I just got tickets to Mr. Beast.
- 29:14Mr. Beastland, it's in Saudi Arabia.
- 29:17I'm not going to go. But if Mr. Beast comments or DMS
- 29:21me or replies to this post, I'll I'll go.
- 29:24Yeah. He all of a sudden, like
- 29:26whenever I'm chilling, like I look at my DMS and I see Mr.
- 29:30Beast DM and I'm like, Nah, fake.
- 29:33I click it and it's like, yo, Moose come hang out and I'm
- 29:38like, what? So I'm like, all right, I don't
- 29:41know if I'm doing this. It's crazy.
- 29:43Like I don't know if I'm gonna actually do it.
- 29:44And then Orangey, he's in the crypto space also.
- 29:47I don't know if you've heard of him.
- 29:49He also got hit up by Mr. Beast. He did the same thing, right?
- 29:52So we both got hit up. We both got connected to his
- 29:55intern or whatever his assistant Megan, her name is.
- 29:58And RNG tried to convince me to come and I was just like, I'm
- 30:01not doing all that. It's crazy.
- 30:03It's a, it's a 14 hour flight. We go to Qatar and then we, we
- 30:06have one day in Qatar and then we go to Saudi.
- 30:08We're there for one day. Also.
- 30:11This is crazy traveling. This is so stupid.
- 30:13I can't do it. And then I don't know what
- 30:14happened. Aren't you called me up?
- 30:16And we weren't even really tight, but he called me up and
- 30:18he's like, we have to do this. And I was like, I never even met
- 30:20him. And I was like, OK, let's do it.
- 30:23And I got in a flight with my cameraman.
- 30:25He's with his cameraman. We meet up a Qatar and we're
- 30:30like, dude, we're here, let's do this.
- 30:31And we had an awesome time. We go to Beastland and funny
- 30:35enough, we don't have backstage passes.
- 30:37We don't have anything. So we go there and we're we're
- 30:40there to meet Mr. Beast and the girl Megan goes, sorry, like we
- 30:43can't get you backstage passes. We're like what?
- 30:45We're we're, we're here and we see Mr. Beast, we see Mr. Beast
- 30:49and, and, and there's 10 million people surrounding him all
- 30:53running after him. Little kids miss their beast,
- 30:55miss their beast, like little kids running.
- 30:57It's in Saudi Arabia. So we look at each other being
- 31:00orange. We're like, we're screwed.
- 31:01We came all the way here. We're screwed.
- 31:03There is a no shot. We're seeing him.
- 31:06We're saying what's up or anything or meeting the tea.
- 31:08Like we came all the way out here like it's impossible.
- 31:10And we're talking to Pete and I'm going up to people like
- 31:12there's a very few American people, very few.
- 31:14It's in Saudi Arabia. So we're going around with
- 31:16people with like necklaces that have their ID or whatever on
- 31:21them. And we're like, we got reached
- 31:22out to like Megan's not answering, like, can you help
- 31:25us? Can you hook this up?
- 31:26And they're like, sorry, like we can't.
- 31:28Like there's he has a meeting this time.
- 31:30He's not active, but he's not active at that time.
- 31:32Sorry, sorry. And I'm like me and Orange.
- 31:34We're like, and we both have our cameraman.
- 31:36We spent so much money. We're out there.
- 31:38We're like looking at you. We're like, OK, let's go.
- 31:40Like we have to go and we were going to leave and RNG writes in
- 31:44a group chat. I went to the bathroom.
- 31:45He's like, yo, I think I'm going to leave.
- 31:46Like I'm I'm calling like I'm I'm I'm I'm booking my flight
- 31:49out now and because we don't have a flight back yet and I'm
- 31:52like, oh, disaster. And then all of a sudden he
- 31:54texted me back as I was walking back to him.
- 31:56He goes OMG Megan just texted me.
- 31:58OMGOMGOMG. I'm like, what do you mean?
- 32:00He's like where? She just texted me.
- 32:02She's coming to grab us now and I'm like what?
- 32:05She grabs us, she takes us behind.
- 32:08What's up? We see Mr. beast.
- 32:10We're like, he's like, yeah, I saw you Moose, what's up?
- 32:14Oh RGI saw your tweets. Yo, sorry about that.
- 32:16It's been crazy, chaotic, blah, blah blah.
- 32:18We started talking, we dab up. I'm like, was that you?
- 32:20That DME? He's like, yeah, that was me
- 32:22100%. Yeah, I saw you.
- 32:23We all saw your tweets. Yo, thank you for coming out.
- 32:26We had a whole discussion. We spoke for like 5 minutes.
- 32:30He was super cool. We got Megan's number.
- 32:32He said take, we got Megan and he's like anything you need, we
- 32:35reach out to Megan. Maybe we'll do some stuff in the
- 32:36future. And we're like, yeah.
- 32:38And it was so cool. And it was like we looked me and
- 32:41aren't looked at each other. We gave each other a heart like
- 32:43God it we did. So he's a massive, he's the
- 32:47biggest influencer in the world. It was a crazy connection, you
- 32:49know? Yeah, that that's that's that's
- 32:52why he must, he must have realized.
- 32:54I mean, look, and I'll say it, I won't say it again, I'll say it
- 32:57for the third time, but you are like a rising personality within
- 33:02the world of Web 3. And I know that Mister Beast is
- 33:05big on Web 2. Like I'm, I'm, I'm my success
- 33:08initially came on Web 2 as well. And I think that from what I
- 33:11understand, and I think I've heard like this, oh, speculation
- 33:16that Mister Beast may be getting into some type of crypto related
- 33:20venture as well. So that could be, that could be
- 33:23really good for crypto because he's got obviously one of the
- 33:27biggest communities of people out there that could that could
- 33:31be a good, a very good thing for overall crypto adoption rates as
- 33:35well. For sure.
- 33:36And and I think that I yes. And it was a good connect, just
- 33:40a good connection to have. I think that yeah, you know, I
- 33:43didn't reach out to anybody yet, whatever.
- 33:44But maybe down the line, Megan reaches out to me.
- 33:47Is, is hey, we want to get you for a video or hey, we want to
- 33:49do this. Hey, we want, you know, we're in
- 33:50New York. I don't know.
- 33:51So what's what's the worst that'll come out of like, I
- 33:54sound like a fanboy, like I went out there.
- 33:55We got to meet him, Mr. Bean, like my idol.
- 33:57But like, everything's connections, everything's
- 33:59networking. And if it leads to nothing, I
- 34:02think it was a great experience. And that's the kind of way you
- 34:04got to go about things in this space and especially in our
- 34:07space. Look, what do we do when we're
- 34:08now we have to network all day long.
- 34:10We have to talk with people. You have to, I have to show up,
- 34:12dude, I woke up at 5:30 yesterday to join somebody who's
- 34:17on the other side of the world and they wanted to do a stream
- 34:19with me and I did it. I woke, I woke up at that time
- 34:22and at 5:30. You probably do that every
- 34:24morning. But like, you know, I forgot to
- 34:26mention I was up until three that night, you know, so it's,
- 34:30it's certain things. You have to just say yes to
- 34:32everything and just do stuff. I realized like.
- 34:34Yeah, yeah, it's, it's one of the downfalls, the only downfall
- 34:39of crypto and what we're doing being on a worldwide basis is
- 34:44trying to schedule live streams with people in Australia that
- 34:47that's always where it's, it gets very difficult.
- 34:50I'm like, wait a minute, there's no way there's it's going to be
- 34:53at the craziest hour no matter what.
- 34:56What are your thoughts on community?
- 35:00I think you've obviously have a, a deep experience with the, with
- 35:05the pudgy Penguin community, pengu community.
- 35:08What are your thoughts on, I mean, I hear it all the time
- 35:11and, and now I've I've experienced it and I agree with
- 35:14it, right? Like crypto is all about
- 35:16community. Any observations as you've been
- 35:20in this now for a couple years about community building?
- 35:23What's important, what's critical for building a good
- 35:25community? So what's crazy is, is that I'm
- 35:29looking at your chat and your comments, right?
- 35:33And you have your, you have your own community, right?
- 35:36This is your own community from YouTube that's commenting.
- 35:38That's all they're talking to each other about Mason jars.
- 35:41They're having fun, they're saying run, they're call,
- 35:43they're talking about certain things.
- 35:46And and you know, as we know, a community is so important.
- 35:48And when you when you're part of a community, and obviously we
- 35:51have responsibilities, right? If we, one singular person can
- 35:55keep a community together or make community, right?
- 35:58And and that keeps people together and that makes people
- 36:00happy and that gives people an outlet.
- 36:03And when they're having a hard time or a lot of things, even
- 36:05when I'm having a hard time, I come to my community or I post
- 36:08them and I speak to someone, I talk in the DNS.
- 36:10A community is very important. It was very, it's very important
- 36:13as an individual ourselves to keep going and to keep making
- 36:17our community because it's easy to start a community.
- 36:19It's, how do you keep this community going and how do you
- 36:22keep whether it's rewarding or whether it's talking or whether
- 36:26it's keeping up with community is very important to, to have.
- 36:31And it's, it's a, like a body system, it's a support system.
- 36:35It's, it's, it's, it's friends, it's community.
- 36:40It's, it's, that's community and it's, it's, it's important to
- 36:42have and it's essential for everything.
- 36:44It's essential for success. It's essential for mental, it's
- 36:46essential for for to to live a good life in my opinion.
- 36:50Yeah, it is the one. That started it.
- 36:52Yeah, it it, it, it is. I think it's not just in crypto,
- 36:58but it's critical in crypto. But really I think just in life
- 37:01in general, like community really is everything.
- 37:05There's really nothing without the sense of connection being
- 37:08part of something. And people want that, right?
- 37:11They want a place where they can feel safe, where they can feel
- 37:14like they belong, where they feel like they have emotional
- 37:18connections. And I say it all the time,
- 37:21Moose, like, you know, like I'm the dev of UFD officially right,
- 37:25The boomer, they call me the boomer based dev or whatever the
- 37:28heck it is. I'm not really even a boomer.
- 37:30I'm like a few years behind that.
- 37:32But but like I I look at myself as being part of the community,
- 37:39right, Like I'm like AI heard somebody explain it once like
- 37:42it's a bunch of like nodes on a network and we're all connected
- 37:45together and there's so much power in that right.
- 37:48I mean, it's bizarre because like when I when I think about
- 37:53Unicorn fart dust, it was $100 that I bought half a Solana with
- 37:58at the time I launched a coin on pump fun.
- 38:01It was nothing. I mean, it was one of it was one
- 38:04of 20 million cryptos. We are 15,000,000 meme coins
- 38:09that were created whatever without the community.
- 38:12I mean, it was like this powerful force from the very
- 38:15beginning when people recognized it, that, that, that created
- 38:20everything that it is. Now I do my part, right?
- 38:22I live stream and you know, I but the reality is like I'm just
- 38:27part of this community and it's like there's so much power in
- 38:31people coming together. I mean, I think if you look
- 38:35back, not to get go too far down this path, but if you looking
- 38:38back over human history, anything big that's ever been
- 38:40accomplished is because of people coming together, right
- 38:43with a joint mission, a joint purpose.
- 38:45And it's, and again, with crypto now in Web 3, it's like it
- 38:51allows us to kind of turbocharge it, if that makes sense, and to
- 38:55help people and then I'll shut up.
- 38:56But but you know, people around the world are reporting that
- 39:00they feel more isolated than ever, lonely than ever.
- 39:04And it gives people, it's really a good thing, right?
- 39:06It's heartwarming that for all of us to be able to be part of
- 39:10our organic families. But then these community
- 39:13families, they come up as well. How about this?
- 39:16Well, two things. One, I'm a duster myself.
- 39:19I. Just.
- 39:20Oh, all right. You're no Buttercup.
- 39:24You ain't no Buttercup. Yeah, so, so I'm part of a
- 39:30community there and people think that oh, I'm, I'm part of, I'm
- 39:34part of communities myself. Like I just started, I made a
- 39:36Reddit account a few months ago so.
- 39:40Thank you for your saying move up.
- 39:41Susie just said thank you. Susie House.
- 39:46Hi, Susie. It's nice to meet you.
- 39:48That's upstairs, Susie. She'll give you a high 5 moves
- 39:50high 5. You're a legend, Susie.
- 39:53You're a legend. Your family's awesome.
- 39:55I can't wait to meet you guys one day.
- 39:58But yeah, anyway, I, I'm part of communities.
- 40:02I love joining communities. I, I, I, I talk to people in
- 40:06random and, and people who, who own other communities, people
- 40:08who start other communities. I'm a part of, you know, I speak
- 40:11to people. I sometimes need that myself.
- 40:13And I, I think it's important, you know, and it, and it takes a
- 40:15toll also definitely like having a responsibility of, you know,
- 40:19putting things like this together and reaching out to me
- 40:22and reaching out to someone else and getting special guests on.
- 40:24And it's, it's, it's a job. It's it's.
- 40:26It's a lot, but as long as you have what it takes, it's fun.
- 40:29It's fun along the way, you know, and as long as you love
- 40:32what you're doing, it's fun, which is why I woke up.
- 40:34If I didn't want to do that, I wouldn't do it.
- 40:35I'm loving this, you know. Yeah, yeah, I am too, Moose, and
- 40:39you know it. I've live streamed every single
- 40:41day for probably three straight years now.
- 40:45And people are like, how do you do it?
- 40:46How do you come up with stuff to talk about?
- 40:48And it is hard. It's work, OK?
- 40:50I mean, it's work, no doubt about it, but I always come back
- 40:54to the fact that if I didn't really like what I was doing, I
- 40:58wouldn't be doing it right. I wouldn't have live streamed
- 41:00every day if it wasn't in many ways very rewarding to get to be
- 41:08involved with the people. I mean, it's really a super cool
- 41:13experience to get to be part of a community.
- 41:17And, you know, my part with UFD is live streaming and but
- 41:20there's a lot of other people that are doing a lot of work.
- 41:23Some of them it a ton of work to make the the whole thing really,
- 41:28really happen. So yeah, it's a it's a fun, it's
- 41:32a fun experience. What did I forget to ask you,
- 41:35Moose, before we say goodbye? The drowning.
- 41:38The drowning. Oh, yeah, Moose almost drowned.
- 41:41Look, look, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a moose lover.
- 41:46I'm trying to think of a good word.
- 41:47I looked up what's a baby moose? And it's called a calf.
- 41:49And I thought, well, I don't want to call myself a calf, but
- 41:52I'm part of the moose. I'm part of the Joey moose
- 41:54community myself as well because I, I love kind of following you
- 41:58on X and, and one day I saw this video of you swimming.
- 42:02Tell us the story. You almost drowned, right.
- 42:04And a word of caution. A word of caution.
- 42:07It was crazy. Honestly, I don't really, I
- 42:09really do stuff like that. I'm, I'm, I'm usually like, I
- 42:11minimize my risk of stuff. I'm always aware.
- 42:14I'm always crossing the street. I'm looking around, even if
- 42:16there's a, if there's a guy that I, I look through the window
- 42:19when I'm, I live in New York City.
- 42:20So like I, I see a car, I look at the guy through the window
- 42:23and I make sure he's looking at me while I'm crossing the street
- 42:25kind of thing, you know, right. I, I'm always aware.
- 42:28But for some reason, this was the most beautiful.
- 42:30I was in Anguilla, right? It's right near Saint Martin,
- 42:33which is like a really, really nice island.
- 42:35I went for Thanksgiving with my wife, Mousset, and I went and I
- 42:40saw these beautiful, beautiful waters, the clearest waters you
- 42:44could ever see in your life. And I was feeling adventurous
- 42:47for the day. I'll show you guys.
- 42:48This is the beautiful, the beautiful water there.
- 42:50Oh, yeah. My God.
- 42:51This is what we approach. Let us look at that for a while,
- 42:55Moose. That's beautiful.
- 42:56Oh yeah. It was beautiful.
- 42:58You have no idea. And what we got, we rented this,
- 43:02this it's look at that. We rented this car.
- 43:05Yeah. We went to this really desolate
- 43:07nobody there, not one person. And I said I need to jump in
- 43:11this. I need to jump in this Cove.
- 43:12And this is this is the only. I don't know what happened.
- 43:15I never do this. Look how look how high that you
- 43:16don't understand how high up we are, right.
- 43:18So we're we're over here. I'm on this rock over here and
- 43:22I'm climbing down the rocks and Moussette's watching and she's
- 43:24like, I don't know if I could do that.
- 43:25And I'm like, I'm climbing down the rocks and I'm like, I'll get
- 43:28back up somehow. And then all of a sudden I'm in
- 43:30there and it's beautiful right here.
- 43:32Let me. Show you Did you have clothes
- 43:34on? Just the bathing suit there.
- 43:37Look, this is, this is so you could get for reference, like
- 43:39that's my wife standing there in the middle with the white, the
- 43:41white over there. That's how this thing.
- 43:43Was yeah, yeah. So look this.
- 43:46Is so then and then Oh yeah, oh, there you are jumping in and
- 43:50then you had an oh shit moment. I never.
- 43:53I think this is the first time I've cursed in years.
- 43:55Sorry, no proof moment. No, you're good.
- 43:58I say, OK, I had my fun. I took my pictures.
- 44:01It was insane. Whatever.
- 44:02Let me get back up now. And I realized this.
- 44:04The rocks are so sharp. Literally, we're going to like
- 44:07piercing through my skin. I'm like trying to grab up to
- 44:10get and there's no way to get up.
- 44:11And I'm looking and my hands have cuts on them, My feet have
- 44:14cuts and like deep cuts with bloody cuts.
- 44:17And I'm like, Oh my God, I can't get up.
- 44:19So my wife likes screaming from the top.
- 44:21She's like, OK, swim around the Cove and there's a there's the
- 44:26the rocks are lower there. Go all around.
- 44:28It's a 5. Swim and I'm Yeah and.
- 44:31No, it's OK And I'm swimming and I'm like, Oh my God, what if?
- 44:34But what if there's sharks? Like I'm in the middle of the.
- 44:35Ocean. And you're bleeding.
- 44:36And you're bleeding, by the way, which attracts sharks, Yeah.
- 44:39Bleeding. There's no lifeguard.
- 44:42There's no lifeguard there. It's, it's literally free for
- 44:45all. And if I die, it's, it's, I'm
- 44:48dead and I'm swimming and what I'm going, I'm swimming, I'm
- 44:51swimming. And like you don't realize after
- 44:525 minutes of swimming in the ocean, you get tired and you,
- 44:56there's no trekking in like an ocean.
- 44:57There's waves hitting you and the waves are hitting the rocks.
- 45:00So the waves are coming at me and I'm like, I'm breathing.
- 45:03I'm like, Oh my God. And my waves, come on, you got
- 45:05this. Let's go, let's go.
- 45:06And I'm like, Oh my God, Oh my God, I'm running out of energy
- 45:08and like whatever. Like I have stamina, but like
- 45:10I'm going and the waves are hitting me.
- 45:12I'm fighting against the waves. Finally.
- 45:14I get up, I get, I see the rocks.
- 45:16I get up and like, Oh my God, I'm running out of breath.
- 45:18I'm like pacing. I've never paced like this in my
- 45:20life. Like, yeah.
- 45:22And I was like, Mel. I call her Mel.
- 45:25I'm like Mel I, I don't think I've ever had a near death
- 45:28experience. Close to that, yeah.
- 45:30'Cause I don't know if I could have survived 30 more seconds of
- 45:32that. Now water is beautiful and I
- 45:38understand you wanting to jump in, but you get in the wrong
- 45:40situation and water there. You know where I live here in
- 45:43Missouri, down here in Missouri, we have a lot of rivers and like
- 45:4710s of hundreds of people drown every year in the rivers because
- 45:51of the current, right? I mean, the way in the ocean,
- 45:53it's the wave. So I'm glad you survived Moose.
- 45:57And you know we, we live and learn, right brother?
- 46:01Yeah, I'm happy to be alive. I'm happy to tell the story.
- 46:03I laugh about it now. It was the most incredible
- 46:05experience. I just can't do stupid stuff
- 46:07like that because the oceans unforgiving.
- 46:09That's what they say. It's beautiful, but it's in one
- 46:11second there were boats passing by, right?
- 46:13There's boats in the boats are creating these waves yeah at me
- 46:16that are hitting these rocks and I'm like Oh my God.
- 46:19But yeah, they got them here. I.
- 46:20Think, Well, you know, I think we all have experiences like
- 46:24that in life and right with the old poop, like, oh, my gosh,
- 46:28I've got myself into, you know, a very dangerous situation.
- 46:32And hopefully we lived through them like you did gratefully.
- 46:36And we learned from our mistakes and move on.
- 46:39Right, man? Yeah.
- 46:40Amen brother. Susie's the best.
- 46:42I see all her messages. Thank you so much.
- 46:45And I want to mention I really enjoy meeting your wife as well.
- 46:48You call her Mel, is that right? I call her Mel.
- 46:51Yeah, but also we set. But Mel.
- 46:52Yeah, her name is Mel. Pronounce her first name for me
- 46:55again. Melanie, but I call.
- 46:57Her Melanie Mousette. She's Mousette.
- 47:01So I've been calling her Mousette.
- 47:02Nobody really knows Melanie, but like, everybody's on Mousette
- 47:04and Mousette. What's up Mousette And.
- 47:05You kept saying mousette and I'm like, I thought, I thought maybe
- 47:10it was a French name or something.
- 47:11I don't know. But.
- 47:12So she's the mousette. I love it.
- 47:14Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got upstairs, Suzie, and
- 47:17you have the mousette, right? Right.
- 47:19We mean Susie better. Than.
- 47:24Calling me. Upstairs, Susie.
- 47:27Yeah, Susie. Ronette.
- 47:28Ronette. Yeah, I'll be Ronette.
- 47:29Right, right. Well, you know, I gotta watch it
- 47:32cuz she can lock the basement door from the from the upstairs.
- 47:35So hey, I want to show everybody quickly your ex profiles.
- 47:40They can go follow you. Is it up on the screen?
- 47:44Yeah. All right.
- 47:45Awesome. There he is right there, guys.
- 47:47Moose at Joey Moose and go check him out.
- 47:51And man, you put out some. Really.
- 47:52I love this one where you you hit the roulette wheel with the
- 47:56waitress at the restaurant. That's awesome.
- 47:59Yeah. All kinds of great content out
- 48:01there. Gosh.
- 48:03Anything else I forgot to ask you about Moose before we bid
- 48:06farewell? Everyone.
- 48:07No, but I hope that we do this again.
- 48:08I would love to come on. Oh yeah.
- 48:10Man, I would love for you to come on to 1 of mine, maybe do
- 48:14the interviews, but I maybe I'll start it up.
- 48:16Yeah, no, but that would be great, you know, and I would
- 48:20love to have you back on. We've got almost 1000 people
- 48:23live with us. 8:30 in the morning.
- 48:25Moose, they got up early for you.
- 48:27The rising, the rising star in Web three, who I feel really
- 48:31fortunate to have been able to meet in Paris, France, but also
- 48:36to get to spend this time with today.
- 48:38Thank you, man. I appreciate it.
- 48:40Dude, you, you, like I said, infectious.
- 48:43Your, your positivity, your, your smile, your personality,
- 48:46your wife is I'm sure you're a really lucky man.
- 48:48Susie seems awesome, but she's also a very lucky woman to have
- 48:51you and and your and your children also to have such an
- 48:54awesome, sweet human. Yeah, man, you're, you're a
- 48:58really good person. And I genuinely really enjoyed
- 49:00speaking with you. And I would love to do this
- 49:02again for real. Sounds good and the feelings are
- 49:05mutual and I'm a see if upstairs Susie wants to say goodbye.
- 49:09Susie, you want to say goodbye to Moose over?
- 49:13Goodbye Moose. Thank you so much for coming on.
- 49:16I look forward. To seeing you again soon.
- 49:21Thank you. High 5, Susie.
- 49:22Yeah, yeah, Susie. Susie.
- 49:24Susie's very selective about her high fives.
- 49:27All right, brother, We'll see you soon.
- 49:28Thanks to everybody who joined us.
- 49:30And also big, big breaking news today.
- 49:33Moose ain't no buttercup. He's a duster.
- 49:36I don't know if you know this, Moose, but we call people that
- 49:38don't own UFD tokens, butter cups.
- 49:40Butter cups. I knew that you ain't.
- 49:43David Goetstein said that once is he's a duster.
- 49:45He said I ain't no buttercup. So all right, brother.
- 49:49And thanks to everybody out there who joined us.
- 49:51We'll see. We'll see you soon, Moose.