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What Are The Biggest Unanswered Questions For Ohio State Football This Season? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning from Monday July. First time your host Tom
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  Moore. The Akron game in sixty one days. The game gets Michigan in
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  one hundred and fifty two days. About a week ago, a little more
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  than a week ago. Now we get a chance to talk to Ryan Day
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  for the first time really since the spring game, the chance to ask him
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  all sorts of different questions, and frankly, it has been a busy week
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  or so in Ohio State football news. Had a bunch of recruiting news,
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  had a bunch of other news, a bunch of stuff to talk about.
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  So haven't gotten to this until now, but did want to let you hear
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  directly from Ryan Day on a bunch of different topics of interest. Of course,
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  it is football. There is no topic more of interest than the quarterback
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  position now. Rather unsurprisingly, it doesn't seem like there's a ton of news
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  involving the Ohio State quarterback derby. They raced for the starting quarterback job since
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  the end of spring. But Ryan Day did get asked. Okay, Ryan
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  Day, what's the latest on the race for the starting quarterback job at Ohios
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  date. Yeah, I'm really no update. We've been really been busy here
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  in June. June's been busy in recruiting, you guys been following that,
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  but also with our team. But have to say, coming out of the
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  spring and where we are right now, there's a lot of movement in any
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  position, wouldn't be accurate, you know. Well, you know we'll work
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  hard and you know there'd be a lot of progress made with Mick in the
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  weight room, but we won't really know much, you know, until we
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  get into the preseason. June was a very busy month for camps for Ohio
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  State. We got it. We were there for all of them, covered
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  a lot of really interesting players, and a bunch of guys earned offers.
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  Some of those were big name guys who Ohiostate just wanted to see in person,
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  but others were guys who maybe came in a little bit more under the
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  radar and who with a big day at Ohio State camp, earned what could
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  be a potentially life changing scholarship offer from the Buckeye. So with all the
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  other stuff going on and recruiting right now and nil and the transfer portal and
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  all the other stuff that you maybe don't always feel great about in college football,
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  how fun is it to see those under the radar guys come in at
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  camp and earn an offer like that. I just think everybody is such a
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  great job of covering, you know, the guys that are going on and
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  getting offers that you know, there's there's less opportunities at times to find that,
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  you know, like Diamond and the Rough again, just because of the
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  great coverage that so many folks you know, do a great job of.
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  But that doesn't mean that just because you know, they're not getting any recognition
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  on social media outlets or anything like that doesn't mean they're not good players.
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  And uh, you know, we found some guys here in camp that we've
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  been really impressed with and it's been great to watch them, and you know,
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  hopefully we can get them on our team. But but I think that's
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  still the you know, the part of this thing that's very very important is
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  the evaluations have got to be on point, because you know, now more
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  than ever, with everything that's tied into guys coming here, we've got to
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  do a great job of evaluating these guys. But I do think there's still
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  a place for the guy who you know, maybe isn't highly recruited, you
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  know, as as freshman, sophomore, junior year, but pops up and
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  can earn a scholarship on one of the shows. Towards the end of last
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  week, I talked to Tony Gerdaman all about the new rule about the unlimited
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  coaches where you could now have anyone coaching your players at any time, anyone
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  on staff. There's no more restrictions on who could do what and when Ran
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  Day was asked about that and the opportunity that provided that potential change in the
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  rules. Now, this answer was given before the rule past. The rule
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  has passed now, but here are Ryan Day's thoughts on that rule change.
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  Yeah, I've We've thought about it. We've had conversations about it. I
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  think that, you know, one of the things that you have to consider
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  is, you know, all the guys who you know want to come up
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  in this profession and the opportunity that they can have in this profession, and
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  we want to make sure that we're not limiting those folks. But at the
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  same time, we're in the process of recruiting, you know, people to
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  our team as opposed to drafting. So it is different than the NFL,
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  and there's a lot of things to consider. Especially with some of the IAWP
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  rules that come with recruiting a prospect. Roster management is a little more complicated
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  than it used to be in college football. It used to be, Okay,
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  you got your guys, you got your eighty five, you know who
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  you got. You know, you can pretty much plan on all of these
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  guys being here next year. Now, not so much, a little more
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  unpredictable. The Buck guys actually under the scholarship count of eighty five right now.
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  So when you're managing your roster and you're doing your recruiting, how different
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  is it are you just now just trying to bring in as many guys as
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  you can at this point, just knowing that it's sort of inevitable that some
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  of them are going to end up in the portal in a year or less.
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  Well, I think the first thing is you have to bring in the
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  people that fit Ohio State. That's the thing. And now more than ever,
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  I mean, you know, what do you hate said it a long
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  time ago? You win with people like that's more prevalent now, maybe even
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  then back then. And I say that because there's so much that goes with
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  today's day and age. You know, there's there's the portal. Like you're
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  saying, there's nil, there's just there's a lot. So you want to
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  have great people in your program, great coaches, great staff members, great
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  supporting you know, people around the program supporting the people, but also you
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  know, the players, you know, the family members. It's all going
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  to fit. And I think it's important that we make sure we're doing that
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  at a high level. And you know, just say well, let's go
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  bring in the best players in a country like, it doesn't work that way.
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  You have to build a culture and a winning culture, and that's what
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  we're focused on now. One of the big storylines over the course of the
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  spring and heading into the season is the right side of that offensive line.
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  There's Bucky's feeling pretty good about Josh Shimmons at left tackle and Donovan Jackson at
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  left guard, maybe even Seth MacLachlan at center, but the right guard position,
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  the right tackle position, those are still kind of lingering questions heading out
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  of the spring. So what is Ryan Day seen there on the right side
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  of the offensive line. Yeah, we see Josh making a lot of progress.
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  He's had another he's had a really good June, another good offseason,
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  and we felt like the spring. He did a nice job there, so
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  we feel like there's just been a lot of progress made. I think coming
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  off of last year he built some confidence and then he knows he could do
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  it in those areas have got to improve in in order for him to,
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  you know, help us win the games we need to win. So we
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  feel confident with him playing guard and tackle. We got to figure out what
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  that right side looks like. You know, I would say we're probably leaning
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  towards, you know, playing him at tackle and trying to figure out who
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  that right guard is at this time. But we do have some flexibility there,
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  and you know, he's been a leader for us. He's on the
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  leadership committee, and just looking at you know, his numbers and how he's
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  changed his body, we're expecting a big fall from him. It doesn't feel
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  like Ryan Day has been the head coach at Ohio State for that long.
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  He took over after the twenty eighteen season from Urban Meyer. But then when
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  you think about all the things that are different in the sport, things that
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  have changed, it is amazing. It feels like he'll be coaching a completely
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  different sport when he first took that job. So when you're dealing with just
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  constant change like that. How are you able to just roll that? How
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  do you deal with knowing that it's just going to be a different sport almost
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  every year? Well it even started. I feel like in nineteen that was
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  like the first year we were making a transition, and then you know,
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  COVID hit and then you know, every year it just seems like there's something
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  else. And I could come to the conclusion that every year is going to
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  be different and we have to adapt. But there's certain things that we're not
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  going to change. There's certain values we're not going to change. It's just
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  you know, you know, principles that have you know, stood the test
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  of time. And I shared this with a group before when I started doing
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  some some research. As we were doing some some of our recruiting you know,
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  introductions and some of our you know talks about you know, the traditions
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  of Ohio State. We talked about how Ohio Stadium was built, you know,
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  and when you when you when you do your research on that one hundred
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  years ago, you know, folks had the idea of building a stadium over
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  sixty thousand people, and that's because of what Chick Harley was doing and you
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  know, they had a wooden bleachers over here, and all these people started
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  coming in and the idea of bringing in a stadium that of our sixty thousand
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  people at the time was like, this is crazy. What is college football
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  turning into? And they instead of going to the state or going to the
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  school the community, they went to the community to raise the money they raised
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  over at the time over a million dollars. Well night, fast forward one
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  hundred years and the conversation still might be like what is college football doing right?
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  And in this situation then il we had to turn to the community for
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  help, and Bucky Nation showed up again in a big way. So although
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  the landscape is changing, I don't know if you know, one hundred years
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  later, if it's that much different. It's just in a different time,
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  in a different you know, set of issues that we're working through. But
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  I think it's exciting. I think there's a lot of positives to it.
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  I do. I think that we're taking the next step with the revenue sharing
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  to try to institutionalize some of it, which would be big for us.
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  Well, I was to enters this season with fewer questions on this roster than
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  most teams, but there are still some questions. So where does Ryan Day
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  still see positional battles going on? I would say on offense, you know,
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  we got to square away the quarterback as you know, I feel like,
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  you know, the offensive line on the right side, we got to
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  solidify that. I feel like we got to build, you know, enough
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  depth at receiver that we feel like we can put in five or six in
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  the game and feel good about it. On defense, I think we're still
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  looking to figure out, you know, who are going to be the guys
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  inside, you know, the the third, the fourth, the fifth,
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  defensive interior alignment that we're gonna put in the game. And then same thing
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  just just I would say depth a little bit at safety, just to kind
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  of see who those next guys are. They're going to step up, and
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  so we know it's going to be a long year. We're going to need
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  everybody, and and so in a lot of those areas, it's depth,
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  Uh, special teams wise, you know, punter is going to be you
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  know that that is significant. You know, we just brought in Nick and
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  you know, so there'll be a battle there. So I'd say those are
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  probably the areas we're focused on the most mentioned earlier that the offensive line was
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  kind of a question at points during the spring. Coming out of the spring,
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  Now, the Buckeyes had an opportunity to bring in another offensive lineman or
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  two through the transfer portal after the spring, and they didn't do it.
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  So was that a function of Ryan Day and the staff feeling comfortable with what
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  they have or were they just did they just not find that right fit.
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  You know, in January, if if we're going to bring somebody in,
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  it's to fill a hole. We're not just going to bring somebody in and
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  bring somebody in, Like at all positions, we'll always look to see what's
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  out there. We did evaluate some of the guys that were out there,
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  and you know, you know, we felt like coming out of it as
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  we evaluated it, you know, there was a couple of guys that you
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  know, we checked on, but but ultimately, like based on where we
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  were and some of the young guys that are coming up, you know,
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  we felt like we saw some progress in the offensive line in the spring.
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  So you know, it wasn't there wasn't as many folks in the portal,
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  you know, in after the spring, so we looked at it. We
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  identified it. We did our due diligence, but you know, we're going
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  to go with who we have. Now. The depth chart at running back
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  is really fascinating for the Buckeyes this year because Dallan Hayden left, of course
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  at the end of spring ball. So you got Trevon Henderson, you get
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  quinch On Juggins, two of the best running backs in the entire sport,
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  and then there's no one else on who is a scholarship player who has stepped
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  foot on a college football field in a real game. Yet, So was
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  that another place where they looked at adding someone in the portal? And I
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  will warn you this answer takes a little bit of a left turn that you
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  may have heard a little news about about a week or so back. Like
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  you said, you know, I think we're we will get some experience there
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  with those two guys. And then you know, we felt like coming out
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  of the spring that James and Sam both did a nice job and you know,
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  we're gonna have to play them and they're going to have to, you
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  know, take on a little bit of that. You know, we have
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  you know, started having conversations with Caleb Downs. I was part of the
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  recruiting process of possibly you know, doing a little bit of running back as
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  well. It's something that he wanted to do. So we've been having him
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  in some of the meetings and some of the individual drills as a possibility there
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  if you know, needed and so down the road to continue to build depth
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  at that position. But you know, I think, you know, we
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  feel like, you know, if you have you know, four strong running
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  backs going into it, then you know that's gonna be that's gonna be enough
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  to carry the season. I do think that the quarterbacks will run the ball
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  more this season, so that should take some carries away from them. But
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  to your point, you know, James and Sam are gonna have to step
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  up to the guys that we can count on. All right. I don't
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  know if you could hear the collective gasp when he talked about Caleb Downs being
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  a running back, but there was a little bit of a what what is
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  he serious? Is he kidding when that answer first came out? So,
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  all right, can Caleb Downs really be a running back at this level?
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  We'll see, We'll see. We talked about in the recruiting process, you
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  know, the first time around and more specifically in the second time around,
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  and so he's you know, he's been around a little bit just to get
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  a feel for it. We did very little in the spring. We did
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  I think we pitched them an option or something like that in the spring just
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  to kind of get them going. But you know, we'll see, we'll
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  see where that goes. We don't have a specific plan right now, but
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  we do want to introduce him to that just the same thing like Lorenzo Styles
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  has played receiver. He did that at Notre Dame. You know, he's
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  out there a little bit just kind of learning. It's healthy. You know,
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  you're seeing it from the other side of the ball. This time of
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  year, you can get away with that a little bit, a little bit
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  in the preseason. Where it goes, we'll see, but you just never
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  know. And we're trying to put some contituency plans in place because it could
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  be a long season. What would Ryan Day need to see to know that
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  Caleb Downs could really hold up to playing on both sides of the ball during
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  what could be shaping up to be a very long season for the buck Eyes.
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  Yeah, yeah, we'd have to see all that. He did it
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  in high school. But we got some really good running backs in a room.
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  So it's not something that we're planning on doing, but well, we
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  are going to, you know, work on it a little bit. Caleb.
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  Caleb enjoys that part of it. We did agree that that was something
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  that we were going to look into. Where it goes, I don't I
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  don't really know right now, but I know that he has the capability to
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  do it, He has the athleticism and do it, and you know,
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  we'll kind of see where it goes, see see how he does, and
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  you know, maybe hand the ball to a little bit of the preseason because
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  again it's going to be a long season. We have to make sure we
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  have continuency plans in place. But I know it's something that he enjoys having
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  the ball in his hand. So even during their first time around the recruiting
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  process, we even't talked about him coming in as a as an offensive player.
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  Ultimately we think his ceiling is highest on defense, you know, but
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  I also agree, I think that having you know, guys go on this
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  side of the ball and just see it, listen to meetings is really healthy
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  for their development. So we're going to do that. Regardless the expectations around
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  this year's Ohio State team are really some of the highest in memory. I
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  was trying to think back to other years where the summers where this hyped in
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  Columbus and came up with nineteen ninety eight, two thousand and three, twenty
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  fifteen, and two of those years, Ohio State was coming off of a
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  national championship and that helped fuel that. So with that kind of hype and
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  that kind of expectation around the program, how is Bryan Day dealing with all
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  that pressure? People have asked me that I go back to the expectations every
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  year are the same. I mean, it's just the truth. When opening
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  press conference, I said you got to beat the team up north, and
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  when every game after that, that's just the expectations. And when you come
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  up short, you know you got to figure out a way to get those
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  things fixed. I think we have done that. But the expectations are the
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  same every year. The pressure is the same every year. I just like
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  the pressure when you've got a really good team behind you. So that's what
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  we got right now. And you know, we know it's going to be
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  a long season. We know we're working towards But I will say this about
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  this team, Well, we've been talented. That's there's been times in the
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  past we've been talented. I don't know since I've been here, if we've
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  been this talented and this experience together with guys that have played a lot of
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  football, fourth and fifth year guys, and that doesn't matter. The Buckeyes
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  have gotten off to a great start in recruiting for the twenty twenty five cycle,
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  and that's especially true on the defensive side of the ball. The defensive
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  recruiting is way ahead of where it has been in previous cycles. Could be
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  adding another commitment or two there in the coming week. We'll keep an eye
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  on that for you, buckehuddle dot com. But is the defense recruiting that
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  they're doing right now and the results that they're seeing, is that a result
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  of having an on field product appoint to now where you're not just sort of
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  selling theory, you're selling Look, we're doing it. You want to be
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  a part of it or not? Yeah, you know, we talked about
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  it when Jim first came in, and I think Tim Watons do an unbelievable
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  job as well in the back end, and you know, Matt stepped right
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  in and James and Larry I think they're all doing a great job. But
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  like you said, you know, it's one thing to talk about it.
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  That's theory. Testimony is is look at this, this is what we're doing.
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  And then I think you're seeing a lot of guys just excited about playing
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  in this defense and they see the capabilities and the flexibility too. You know
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  right now, you know the way we play, excuse me, the way
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  we play right now is based on you know, we have four really talented
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  defensive linemen that are really good and a lot of depth to those positions.
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  But there's also flexibility with some of the things Jim's done in the past that
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  you know, we're definitely looking at and some of the recruits that we're looking
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  at who brings some versatility pass rusher, you know, we have that jack
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  position and those type of things. So that's exciting as well. And I
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  think you're seeing a lot of the recruits, you know, really get fired
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  up when they get here. Every college football team has its own identity.
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  Is the identity of the twenty twenty four High Stay team going to be very
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  different than the one from the twenty twenty three get Remember you're at Chip Kelly
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  calling plays. You got a couple of great running backs, you got to
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  do it more, dual threat quarterback. You get a pretty good offensive line.
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  How different is the identity on offense going to be? And hey,
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  let's while we're at it, let's talk about the defense too. We'll see
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  as we go. But you know, we know what we need to do
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  to play in the big games. That's never changed. You know, we
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  have to be able to stop the run, run the football, take care
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  of the ball, and there'll be opportunities to throw the ball that'll happen,
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  but you know we're going to have to, you know, do those things
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  to win close games and play situational football. But I think, you know,
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  you won't really get a feel for what the identity of the team is
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  until we get into probably the beginning of October, you know, and I
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  think we all have ideas of what it could go. But you know,
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  now that we're playing in a playoff format, just like a lot of those
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  NFL teams sometimes, you know, they don't really quite understand their identity until
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  they get about halfway through the season. I don't think it'll take that long.
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  But you know, we're able to play some games and kind of work
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  through some things, and I don't think our defense is going to change a
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  bunch in terms of what we did last year. I mean, it's a
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  lot of the same guys back could look a little different on offense. One
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  of the position groups where there still some lingering questions on who who's going to
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  play and where guys are all gonna fit is a linebacker. You get Simon,
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  you get Sonny Styles, get CJ. Hicks, you get Gay Powers.
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  I mean there's a bunch of talented returning players and Simon has a little
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  bit of a starting history and Styles has started, but not as a linebacker.
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  So where do things stand right there? Yeah? Good versatility all those
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  guys, r Vel Reese, Like you said, CJ, Gabe, Sonny,
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  Cody. You know I'm missing a couple, I'm sure, but like,
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  was that yeah, Arvel, Yeah, I mean these guys are real
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  versatile guys. You can see the length on them, and you know,
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  they do a good job in terms of like fitting the runs. They can.
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  They have enough length to you know, to cover and zone. But
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  they'll also blitz and that's something that we wanted to really work on this offseason
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  is getting better at blitzing. You know, and hopefully we can even take
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  the next step in the preseason. But all playmakers, I think when you
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  when you see us, you know, in the length that we have there,
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  we look a little bit different than then in the past, and and
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  that's exciting. You know when you when you tie that in with our front
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  four and the back end, you know, it's important to make sure that
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  the linebackers are the one they're the glue. Cody's had an unbelieable offseason.
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  He leads to he leads the pack with that group, but you're seeing a
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  lot of those guys come on. And finally, this is a really good
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  question for my buddy Tony Gerdaman talking about the Ohio State defense and how aggressive
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  they're going to be or how not aggressive they're going to be this year,
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  because you kind of got two separate schools of thoughts. One is you trust
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  the veterans and you just assume that you've got better players out there and you
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  can just keep it simple and just trust your guys to make better plays.
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  Or conversely, you can say, hey, we have veterans, we can
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  trust them, we can be more aggressive because they're not going to you know,
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  there is always someone who's going to be in the right spot. You
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  can trust them to be a little more aggressive and be a little more risk
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  taking because we know we've got a good defense long you know, long term,
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  it's going to play out over the course of the game. So which
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  way is Brian Day approaching it? Yeah, I think that's that's the That's
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  kind of the the balance that we're trying to, you know, figure out
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  as we continue to work into the season of you know, what are those
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  things that we need to enhance and then what are the things that we need
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  to have for curveballs and mix ups. I think that's that's the art of
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  it, and that's all the stuff that we're working through now. But you
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  know, to your point, you know, and you've seen us do both,
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  and so what is that right mixture and then putting the guys in the
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  right position to do with their job. I think that's you know, you
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  can just drop a blitz, but you know, is that guy a really
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  good blitzer? You know? And then what stress are you putting on the
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  back end? You know, all those things come into play. So there's
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  a lot of blitzer out there, but what are going to be the right
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  ones for us? The right time, and then how much we do it
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  is going to be based on the opponent, but also the success that it's
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  having throughout the year. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed that we have
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  not gotten to talk to Ryan Day for quite a while. That was nice
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  to get a chance to check in with him. We will, of course
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  be getting a chance to talk today in just a few more weeks at Big
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  Ten Media Days. That's coming up, just over three weeks away. Three
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  weeks and one day away from Big Ten Media Days. I can't wait.
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  That is always one of the most exciting events of the year. Get a
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  chance to talk to every Big Ten player and every Big Ten coach, and
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  the selection of players from each team, and guys from the Big Ten officiating
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  office and TV network folks and the commissioner Tony Pettiti. Lots of really really
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  good interviews, a chance to ask a lot of really interesting questions of a
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  lot of interesting people. We will be there for all of that, for
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  all three days this year, a three day event with a new eighteen team
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  conference. I can't wait. That's gonna be a lot of fun. We
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  will be there, We'll be there. That will be the start of our
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  official season coverage, Big ten Media Days. Ball camp starts in August first,
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  and of course then the Buckeye is kicking it off against Akron. Just
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  start the season on Labor Day weekend. It is going to be a fantastic
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  season and then this can be a great year to be At bucke huddle dot
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  com. That's where Tony, Kevin and I cover the team, Mark covers
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  recruiting. We got our whole team of ex of those garuz making you a
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  smarter football fan all at buckeyehuddle dot com. We hope to see you there.
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  That'll do it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
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  Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.