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The Ron Verb Show - 3pm Hour Thursday - 07/16/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: WKBN. Well, howdy ho, boys and girls. 306 here on
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  Speaker 1: a Thursday afternoon. It's Thursday already. And it's July 16th.
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  Speaker 1: We're at 86 degrees here this afternoon. It's hot and
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  Speaker 1: humid out there. Can you believe this smoke, though? I mean, it's...
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  Speaker 1: It is... So they say, what, this is from Canada?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty thick in my neck of the woods.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you take a look... Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to make a technical adjustment here. When you
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the smoke that is just going
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  Speaker 1: on out there, I mean, it's like there's a fog.
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  Speaker 1: I thought for just a minute my cataracts had returned.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: But it's like there's a fog out there. And I
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: felt like I was in London. And they say this
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  Speaker 1: is that smoke from Canada that's coming in from wildfires
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  Speaker 1: in Canada. I forget where else they said. Isn't that something, though?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can have... these wildfires. It wasn't just Canada.
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  Speaker 1: I forget where else they said. And this smoke is
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  Speaker 1: coming down with the jet stream down our way. And
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty thick down here. And you can actually not
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  Speaker 1: only see it, you can smell it when you're outside.
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  Speaker 1: You can actually smell the smoke. And you can see
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  Speaker 1: it in my neck of the woods. And they say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you have COPD or you got asthma,
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  Speaker 1: you have breathing issues, you might want to avoid it.
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  Speaker 1: I just take it on like a real man. And
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  Speaker 1: so let me tell you something. It has had absolutely no,
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  Speaker 1: no effect on me at all. I took it on
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  Speaker 1: all day and I'm, I'm a real man. And I
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  Speaker 1: just said, that's, I'm not going to stay in the house.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to tell me the smoke's bad for
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  Speaker 1: me or my lungs. I'm not going to put up
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  Speaker 1: with that. Just kidding.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Little, little theater of the mind there for you. You're
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  Speaker 1: on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Ron, did you see where inflation was way down
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  Speaker 2: the other day?
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  Speaker 1: I don't buy any of that government stuff with inflation.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't buy any of it. It's way down
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  Speaker 1: while my gas price is back up to $ 3. 99 a gallon.
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  Speaker 1: It's not way down in the world of Ron Verb,
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  Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Frank. I mean, it's not. It's not. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious about it. Everywhere I turn, I don't buy
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  Speaker 1: into any of that bull crap that inflation is down.
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  Speaker 1: Everything has gotten too damn expensive. And I mean everything
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  Speaker 1: that is out there. Vehicles, homes, groceries, you name it.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with you. And also, oh, geez, I
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  Speaker 2: almost forgot what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the beginning of the year right there.
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  Speaker 2: With Iran? The stock market was way down again earlier today.
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  Speaker 1: Do you blame it? Frank, I'm going to educate you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to educate you on the market. Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 1: All right, take some notes on this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The market does not like uncertainty, and what's going on
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  Speaker 1: right now is uncertainty. And I'll say it again, and
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of Trumpsters get upset with me.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump got into a mess by getting involved in
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  Speaker 1: this from the very beginning. This was a mistake from
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning, and I do mean a mistake. As
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  Speaker 1: a result of the move he's made, we've never had
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  Speaker 1: these issues with the straight being open and being closed, ever.
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  Speaker 1: We've never had these issues until he started this situation.
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  Speaker 1: And now it appears to me that I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the end is. I don't, it's just going to
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  Speaker 1: continue to drag on, and who knows how much longer
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  Speaker 1: it's going to drag on, and I'm going to continue
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  Speaker 1: to pay the price.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to give your audience some friendly advice
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: on the market, too. You had the options caller a
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: while back was talking how great Micron Technologies was and
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: was selling. At $ 1, 224 an ounce, at the time he
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  Speaker 2: said it, it's down to almost $ 890, I mean, not
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  Speaker 2: an ounce a share. And you'd be losing money. And
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  Speaker 2: listen to this. Remember when we were having the argument
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  Speaker 2: over SpaceX? He was saying, yeah, I should have bought
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  Speaker 2: call options, meaning betting on SpaceX going up. And I
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  Speaker 2: was saying, no, you should be... Shorting SpaceX or buying
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  Speaker 2: put options, betting it should go down. You know, SpaceX
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  Speaker 2: went public at $ 150 a share. It's now down below
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  Speaker 2: $ 134 a share. If I had taken his advice and
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  Speaker 2: bought the put options like he told me I should
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  Speaker 2: have done, I would, that thing better turn around real
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  Speaker 2: fast or I would lose 100% of my money.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Do you think it's, are you going to buy
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  Speaker 1: any SpaceX?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to. Well, I tell you what,
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  Speaker 2: at this price, I'm considering it, but I can't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: give specific recommendations.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just asking if you were going
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  Speaker 1: to buy it because the price is down and put
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  Speaker 1: it in there. But at your age. What difference does
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  Speaker 1: it make, right? I mean, really, how much time could
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  Speaker 1: you possibly have left?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I got a surprise for you. I think
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  Speaker 2: this is the end of my stock market report for today.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So Ro Khanna is, you know, talking about that he's
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  Speaker 2: probably running for president and that he will do like
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Massey. cut foreign aid. And also he's going to oppose,
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  Speaker 2: there's a law pending in Congress right now, the Jewish
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  Speaker 2: Something Act, where it will be criminalized to criticize Israel,
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  Speaker 2: which he opposed.
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  Speaker 1: How can something be... Don't we have free speech in
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  Speaker 1: our country? I mean, come on now. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. And it's like, listen, I
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  Speaker 1: think you have a right to speak your piece and
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  Speaker 1: be critical of whatever you want to be critical of.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't fear your own tongue. Even if it's terrible
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  Speaker 1: hate speech, it's still protected speech, and it should remain
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  Speaker 1: that way in the United States of America. Because who
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  Speaker 1: determines what is hate speech?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have never voted for a Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: I despise the Democrats, just like I do the Republicans.
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  Speaker 2: But if Ro Cano runs for president, he may be
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  Speaker 2: the first Democrat I ever vote for, even though I
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  Speaker 2: don't know his position on transgenderism and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I just might overlook that, because I think, number one,
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  Speaker 2: we're integrating the Israeli and American military.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. They want to merge, which I'm opposed to that.
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  Speaker 1: But it says here that he's an American politician and attorney.
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  Speaker 1: There's a strike against him. He's an attorney serving from
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  Speaker 1: California's 17th congressional district. So he's 49 years old. But
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  Speaker 1: he's a Democrat from California, Yale Law School, University of Chicago. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so there you go. So you think you actually said
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  Speaker 1: that you could actually find yourself voting for a Democrat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the first time in my life. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I never vote for anybody in Florida that's a Democrat
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  Speaker 2: that's running for Congress or the Senate or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, I don't care. what party
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  Speaker 2: they're from, independent Republican. I got full voting for Trump.
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  Speaker 2: He said, no more endless wars, you know, no more
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  Speaker 2: foreign aid. And what happened with that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're exactly right. Your criticism is correct.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, also what else we got, you know? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we got the medals and... precious metals and base metals
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  Speaker 2: are going down again today probably because the inflation report
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  Speaker 2: was down now you know i can't understand what happened
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  Speaker 2: at wall street or ever so off because that i
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  Speaker 2: i think they're too smart they're like us they know
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  Speaker 2: the government lies about just about everything not only the
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  Speaker 2: economic reports the uh... but also war What's the first
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  Speaker 2: casualty in war of the truth, correct?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. But when you're talking a market down, the Dow's
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  Speaker 1: down 221, S & P' s down 51, NASDAQ's down 407.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad day for your 401k and
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  Speaker 1: your retirement. It's just a bad day for it.
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  Speaker 2: It sure is. And, you know, I read, who was it,
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  Speaker 2: a general or somebody says, how long before Navy SEALs
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  Speaker 2: and special forces take orders from Israeli commanders?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about– I was just looking at this
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  Speaker 1: the other day. I want to make sure I get
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  Speaker 1: this correct. Let me find it here. Let me find
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  Speaker 1: it here. I want to get the– hang on. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get the title correct because I can never remember. It's–
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  Speaker 1: what the heck is the title of that? It's a congressional– movement.
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  Speaker 1: is it not? It's basically a merger, correct?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a merger, exactly. In other words, it would be
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  Speaker 2: like if the German military merged with the U.S. military,
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  Speaker 2: and we all take orders from the same commanders.
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  Speaker 1: What sense does that make, though? I am totally opposed
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  Speaker 1: to that completely. I am completely opposed to it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't you agree that would be more endless wars
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  Speaker 2: on behalf of Israel if Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Wants to invade Turkey?
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think the National Defense.
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  Speaker 1: Right. The National Defense Authorization Act is what it's called.
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  Speaker 1: The National Events Authorization Act, it's part of a bigger
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  Speaker 1: bill that would merge, basically, Israel and the U.S., what,
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  Speaker 1: military or intelligence? It's like a merger.
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  Speaker 2: Military is what I read. I think our intelligence has
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  Speaker 2: already been merged for years now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this stuff should remain solely to the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America, period. I'm with you. I'm dead set
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  Speaker 1: against this. I'm absolutely 100% against this. And I also
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  Speaker 1: agree with you. The inflation numbers, I don't buy them
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  Speaker 1: at all. Inflation is just high. Have you got an
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  Speaker 1: electric bill? I don't know if you're affected by it
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  Speaker 1: like we are here in our neck of the woods.
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  Speaker 1: The cost of electricity has doubled up here. And my
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  Speaker 1: last electric bill was like $ 261. They really don't want
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  Speaker 1: you using your dehumidifier and your air conditioner. These pompous
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  Speaker 1: asses want you living like they do in France without
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  Speaker 1: air conditioning and being hot and being miserable. And they're
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  Speaker 1: going to get their wish if they continue to see
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  Speaker 1: electric rates go up. And so a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are irate because our electric rates have doubled. They were
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  Speaker 1: worried about the demand out there from these AI centers.
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  Speaker 1: And so your electric's gone way up. Your gasoline's gone
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  Speaker 1: way up. Who says inflation is down?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have one benefit here in Florida. When I
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  Speaker 2: was analyzing AI stocks a few weeks ago, they were
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  Speaker 2: saying that there is not enough fresh water in Florida
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  Speaker 2: to build a lot of AI data centers in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: But the rest of the country, let's see, what have
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  Speaker 2: I said? You know, data centers will make all the
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  Speaker 2: profits and homeowners will pay all the bills, according.
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  Speaker 1: To one analyst.
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  Speaker 2: And AI revenues are orders of magnitude lower than the
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  Speaker 2: sums being invested. Ron, I've been reading that for quite
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  Speaker 2: a while. AI data centers. I know the options guy
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  Speaker 2: has disagreed with me. He's very bullish on AI. But
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  Speaker 2: I just haven't seen the return on investments. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen big profits on these AI data centers or stocks yet.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, there was an article in a major investment
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  Speaker 2: publication a few days ago that says that AI stocks
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  Speaker 2: are overvalued, and a lot of AI analysts are predicting
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  Speaker 2: that they're not going to make the money that people
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  Speaker 2: are predicting, and they're putting out sell recommendations on a
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  Speaker 2: number of them.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one for you, a headline from CNBC for Lauderdale. Frank, U.S.
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  Speaker 1: grocery slowdown. Did you hear me? Grocery. I've got to
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  Speaker 1: clear my throat. Maybe this smoke is getting to me, Frank. U.S.
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  Speaker 1: grocery slowdown deepens as shoppers buy fewer items, raising pressures
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  Speaker 1: on food companies. So who said inflation is down? Would
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  Speaker 1: that indicate inflation is down based on a story I
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  Speaker 1: just read? The U.S. grocery slowdown deepens as shoppers buy
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  Speaker 1: fewer items. Would that be a sign of inflation being reduced?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: When's the last time you saw prices go down for
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  Speaker 2: eggs or milk or cat food or coffee? In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I think you just read the report that coffee prices
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  Speaker 2: are expected to go up again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the last time I had a good can of
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  Speaker 1: cat food, I can't remember what I paid for it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, this will probably have to be another call,
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  Speaker 2: but you had a young guy called right before you
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  Speaker 2: went on vacation. Yes. He hears me and you talking
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  Speaker 2: about Zionism a lot, and he has no clue what
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  Speaker 2: it is. Well, I'm going to call next week because...
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  Speaker 2: I think that's important. I think a younger generation, now
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  Speaker 2: that we're going to have the integration of the Israeli
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  Speaker 2: and U.S. military.
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  Speaker 1: I sure hope we don't have that. I'm dead set
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  Speaker 1: against it. I don't believe the U.S. military should be
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  Speaker 1: merging with anybody at all. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where this comes from other than it shows you the
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  Speaker 1: influence of those lobbying groups. All right, Fort Lauderdale, Frank,
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed my conversation with you today.
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  Speaker 2: Great, Ron. Take care now.
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  Speaker 1: Have a good day. You too. We'll pause here. We'll
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  Speaker 1: come back with more. Fort Lauderdale, Frank. How about that
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  Speaker 1: for a headline? U.S. grocery slowdown deepens as shoppers buy
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  Speaker 1: fewer items. So is that a sign of lower inflation?
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  Speaker 1: Or is that a sign that says, gee, I'm paying
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  Speaker 1: more for gasoline and paying more for electricity and paying
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  Speaker 1: more for everything and only got so much money?
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  Speaker 4: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Heidi Ho, boys and girls, 306 here on a
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  Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon. It's Thursday already, and it's July 16th. We're
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  Speaker 1: at 86 degrees here this afternoon. It's hot and humid
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  Speaker 1: out there. Can you believe the smoke, though? I mean, it's,
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  Speaker 1: it is, so they say, what, this is from Canada?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty thick in my neck of the woods.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you take a look at the smoke
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  Speaker 1: that is just going on out there, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: like there's a fog. I thought for just a minute
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  Speaker 1: my cataracts had returned. But it's like there's a fog
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  Speaker 1: out there. And I felt like I was in London.
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  Speaker 1: And they say this is that smoke from Canada. That's
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  Speaker 1: coming in from wildfires in Canada. I forget where else
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  Speaker 1: they said. Isn't that something, though? I mean, you can
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  Speaker 1: have these wildfires. It wasn't just Canada. I forget where
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  Speaker 1: else they said. And this smoke is coming down with
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  Speaker 1: the jet stream down our way. And it's pretty thick
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  Speaker 1: down here. And you can actually not only see it,
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  Speaker 1: you can smell it when you're outside. You can actually
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  Speaker 1: smell the smoke. And you can see it in my
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: neck of the woods. And they say, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you have COPD or you got asthma, you have breathing issues,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you might want to avoid it. I just take it
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  Speaker 1: on like a real man. And so let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you something. It has had absolutely no effect on me
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  Speaker 1: at all. I took it on all day and I'm
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  Speaker 1: a real man. And I just said, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to stay in the house. They're not going to tell
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  Speaker 1: me the smoke's bad for me here. Or my lungs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to put up with that. Just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Little theater of the mind there for you.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Ron, did you see where inflation was way down
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  Speaker 2: the other day?
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  Speaker 1: I don't buy any of that government stuff with inflation.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't buy any of it. It's way down
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  Speaker 1: while my gas price is back up to $ 3. 99 a gallon.
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  Speaker 1: It's not way down in the world of Ron Verb,
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  Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, Frank. I mean, it's not. It's not. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious about it. Everywhere I turn, I don't buy
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  Speaker 1: into any of that bull crap that inflation is down.
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  Speaker 1: Everything has gotten too damn expensive, and I mean everything
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  Speaker 1: that is out there. Vehicles, homes, groceries, you name it,
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  Speaker 1: everything's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with you. And also, oh, geez, I
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  Speaker 2: almost forgot what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the beginning of the end right there.
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  Speaker 2: With Iran? The stock market was way down again earlier today.
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  Speaker 1: Do you blame it? Frank, I'm going to educate you.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to educate you on the market. Are you ready?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: All right, take some notes on this kind of stuff.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: The market does not like uncertainty, and what's going on
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: right now is uncertainty. And I'll say it again, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of Trumpsters get upset with me.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: President Trump got into a mess by getting involved in
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: this from the very beginning. This was a mistake. from
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: the very beginning, and I do mean a mistake. As
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a result of the move he's made, we've never had
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: these issues with the straight being open and being closed, ever.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: We've never had these issues until he started this situation.
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  Speaker 1: And now it appears to me that I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the end is. It's just going to continue to
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  Speaker 1: drag on, and who knows how much longer it's going
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  Speaker 1: to drag on, and I'm going to continue to pay
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  Speaker 1: the price.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to give your audience some friendly advice
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: on the market, too. You had the options caller a
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: while back was talking how great Micron Technologies was and
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: was selling at $ 1, 224 an ounce. At the time he
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: said it, it's down to almost $ 890, I mean, not
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: an ounce a share, and you'd be losing money. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: listen to this. Remember when we were having the argument?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: over SpaceX? He was saying, yeah, I should have bought
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: call options, meaning betting on SpaceX going up. And I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: was saying, no, you should be shorting SpaceX or buying
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: put options, betting it should go down. You know, SpaceX
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: went public. At $ 150 a share, it's now down below
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: $ 134 a share. If I had taken his advice and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: bought the put options like he told me I should
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: have done, that thing better turn around real fast or
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I would lose 100% of my money. Are you going
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to buy any SpaceX products? No, I'm not going to. Well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I tell you what, at this price, I'm considering it,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: but I can't give specific recommendations.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just asking if you were going
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to buy it because the price is down and put
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it in there. But at your age, what difference does
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it make, right? I mean, really, how much time could
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you possibly have left?
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You know, I got a surprise for you. I think
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: this is the end of my stock market report for today.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: So Ro Khanna is, you know, talking about that he's
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: probably running for president and that he will do like
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Thomas Massey, cut foreign aid. And also he's going to oppose,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: there's a law pending in Congress right now, the Jewish
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: something act, or it will be criminalized to criticize Israel,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: which he opposed.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: How can something be... Don't we have free speech in
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: our country? I mean, come on now. I mean, yeah,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. And it's like, listen,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I think you have a right to speak your piece
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and be critical of whatever you want to be critical of.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't fear your own tongue. Even if it's terrible
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: hate speech, it's still protected speech, and it should remain
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that way in the United States of America. Because who
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: determines what is hate speech?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I have never voted for a Democrat.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I despise the Democrats, just like I do the Republicans.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: But if Ro Khanna runs for president, he may be
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the first Democrat I ever vote for, even though I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: don't know his position on transgenderism and all that stuff.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: But I just might overlook that, because I think, number one,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: we're integrating the Israeli and American military. Exactly.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: They want to merge, which I'm opposed to that. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it says here that he's an American politician and attorney.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: There's a strike against him. He's an attorney serving from
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: California's 17th congressional district. So he's 49 years old. But
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: he's a Democrat from California, Yale Law School, University of Chicago. Okay,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so there you go. So you think you actually said
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that you could actually find yourself voting for a Democrat?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the first time in my life. I mean,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I never vote for anybody in Florida that's a Democrat
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that's running for Congress or the Senate or anything like that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, I don't care. what party
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: they're from, independent, Republican. I got fooled voting for Trump.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: He said, no more endless wars, you know, no more
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: foreign aid. And what happened with that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you're exactly right. Your criticism is correct.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And, you know, also, what else we got, you know? Oh,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: we got the medals and... Precious metals and base metals
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: are going down again today, probably because the inflation report
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: was down. Now, you know, I can't understand why Wall
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Street will have a sell-off, because I think they're too smart.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: They're like us. They know. The government lies about just
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: about everything, not only the economic reports, but also war.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: What's the first... casualty and war the truth, correct?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. But when you're talking a market down, the Dow's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: down 221, S & P' s down 51, NASDAQ's down 407.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad day for your 401k and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: your retirement. It's just a bad day for it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: It sure is. And you know, I read, who was it,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: a general or somebody says, how long before Navy SEALs
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: and special forces take orders from Israeli commanders?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Well, then you're talking about– I was just looking at
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: this the other day. I want to make sure I
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: get this correct. Let me find it here. Let me
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: find it here. I want to get the– hang.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: On.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get the title correct because I can
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: never remember. It's– what the heck is the title of that?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: It's a congressional– movement, is it not? It's basically a merger. Correct?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a merger, exactly. In other words, it would be
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: like if the German military merged with the U.S. military.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: We all take orders from the same commanders.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: What sense does that make, though? I am totally opposed
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to that completely. I am completely opposed to it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Well, don't you agree that would be more Endless wars
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: on behalf of Israel if Israel wants to.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I just don't think the national defense... If.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: They invade Turkey, we're going to, you know, get... Right.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: The National Defense Authorization Act is what it's called. The
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: National Defense Authorization Act. It's part of a bigger bill
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that would merge, basically, Israel and the U.S., what, military
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: or intelligence or... It's like a merger of the.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Military is what I read. I think our intelligence has
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: already been merged for years now.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, this stuff should remain solely to the United
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: States of America, period. I'm with you. I'm dead set
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: against this. I'm absolutely 100% against this. And I also
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: agree with you. The inflation numbers, I don't buy them
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: at all. Inflation is just high. Have you got an
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: electric bill? I don't know if you're affected by it
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like we are here in our neck of the woods.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: The cost of electricity has doubled up here. And my
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: last electric bill was like $ 261. They really don't want
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you using your dehumidifier and your air conditioner. These pompous
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: asses want you living like they do in France without
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: air conditioning and being hot and being miserable. And they're
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: going to get their wish if they continue to see
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: electric rates go up. And so a lot of people
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: are irate because our electric rates have doubled. They were
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: worried about the demand out there from these AI centers.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And so your electric's gone way up. Your gasoline's gone
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: way up. Who says inflation is down?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Well, we have one benefit here in Florida. When I
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: was analyzing AI stocks a few weeks ago, they were
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: saying that there is not enough fresh water in Florida
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to build a lot of AI data centers in Florida.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: But the rest of the country, let's see, what have
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I said? You know, data centers will make all the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: profits and homeowners will pay all the bills, according to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: one analyst. And AI revenues are orders of magnitude lower
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: than the sums being invested. Ron, I've been reading that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: for quite a while. AI data centers, I know the
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: options guy is... disagreed with me. He's very bullish on AI.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But I just haven't seen the return on investments. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: haven't seen big profits on these AI data centers or
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: stocks yet. In fact, there was an article in a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: major investment publication a few days ago that says that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: AI stocks are overvalued, and a lot of AI analysts
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: are predicting that they're not going to make the money
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: that people are predicting, and they're putting out sell recommendations
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: on a number of them.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Here's one for you, a headline from CNBC for Lauderdale. Frank, U.S.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: grocery slowdown. Did you hear me? Grocery. I've got to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: clear my throat. Maybe this smoke is getting to me, Frank. U.S.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: grocery slowdown deepens as shoppers buy fewer items, raising pressures
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: on food companies. So who said inflation is down? Would
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that indicate inflation is down based on a story I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: just read? The U.S. grocery slowdown deepens as shoppers buy
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: fewer items. Would that be a sign of inflation being reduced? No.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: When's the last time you saw prices go down for
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: eggs or milk or cat food or coffee? In fact,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I think you just read the report that coffee prices
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: are expected to go up again.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Well, the last time I had a good can of
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: cat food, I can't remember what I paid for it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: By the way, this will probably have to be another call,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but you had a young guy. called right before you
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: went on vacation.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: He says he hears me and you talking about Zionism
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: a lot, and he has no clue what it is. Well,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to call next week because I think that's important.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I think younger generation... now that we're going to have
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the integration of the Israeli and U.S. military.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I sure hope we don't have that. I'm dead set
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: against it. I don't believe the U.S. military should be
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: merging with anybody at all. I mean, I don't know
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: where this comes from other than it shows you the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: influence of those lobbying groups. All right, Fort Lauderdale, Frank,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed my conversation with you today.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Great, Ron. Take care now.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: All right, you too. We'll pause here. We'll come back
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: with more. Fort Lauderdale, Frank. How about that for a headline?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: U.S.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Grocery slowdown deepens as shoppers buy fewer items. So is
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that a sign of lower inflation? Or is that a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: sign that says, gee, I'm paying more for gasoline and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: paying more for electricity and paying more for everything. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I only got so much money.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Stop in to Sapphire Essentials in 19... 570 WKBN.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Back to it. And Ron Ferb, you're on the air.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Ron, how you doing? Speak of the devil. I wasn't
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: going to talk about options. I said I'm going to
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: break my own rule today just to educate Frank. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: don't think he has a grasp of options or hedging
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: a personal account. And I don't know what his net
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: worth is, but I think I'm many, many, many, many
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: billions ahead of Frank. And Mike, Ron, again, I sold
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: this morning put options, cash secured out of the money. So, yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: right now Micron is selling at $ 846. I sold out
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: of the money contracts at $ 600. And what you want
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: to do with options, you want them with cash secured puts, Frank,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: if you listen to this, you want them to expire.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: You collect your premiums. And then you wash and repeat.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: You do that every... I write three-weeks to four-week contracts.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: But what I wanted to talk about was Trump, Carolyn Leavitt,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: and the fires from Canada.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Let me get back real quick to options again. It's
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: amazing that people, you know, talk about things that they
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have no knowledge of, but or no experience doing and
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: right now i have over two hundred option contracts are
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: written and sold to you that would mean nothing but
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to a guy like say andrew the accountant that calls
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: or on your show that is a lot a lot
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: of money and the bulk of those are in cash
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: secured puts and twenty percent are in.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Covered calls Yeah, you guys are talking so far over
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: my head, I'm totally lost.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm not going to talk about it,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: because people tell me at coffee, don't talk about options.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: You're boring the audience.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'll say this. I think you're a really smart guy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I have great admiration for you. I wish I knew
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: half of what you know, and I know you've done
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: extremely well and extremely successful. I commend you for the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: knowledge you have. You're just so far over my head,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to follow.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's my, leading in, such weighing into my next point,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I use AI to do, have you, do you use
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: AI at all in your?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, I use it extensively in investing, and especially with options.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I use, my favorite is Grok, Gemini, and occasionally Copilot.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: And what I do, this used to take me, Ron,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: three hours a day. What I do now is I
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: use Grok, I'll run a trade by it like a
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: vertical spread on an option. I ask it where I
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: had to use the probability calculator that Schwab gives me
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and do my own work. I could ask AI, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Glock is really nice. It's just like Alexa, the same voice.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: But anyway, I ask it, is this trade going to
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: be profitable? What's the probability on it of expiring or
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: not expiring? And.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Within a minute or two minutes, it'll run the numbers
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and then ask me, this is the AI is talking
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: to me, would you like me to run another scenario
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: farther out of the money or deep in the money? And,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: you know, it'll give you different scenarios. And it's amazing
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: what AI can do. I use it a lot for business,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: but I use it also for medical information, health, Just
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: general anything. It's the future that we're not going back on.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: But anyway, let me get back to what I was
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: going to call, and I don't want to bore the
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: audience because everybody tells me to shut up. You probably
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: didn't catch Carolyn Leavitt's press conference today.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I did not. Tell me about it.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: One of her better press conferences, and leading into you've
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: got to watch Trump tonight at 9 p.m., I think
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: he's going to have a good chance to win back
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of his supporters. In fact, he's going to
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: talk about the safe and secure elections, but he's also
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: going to bring up election fraud and evidence how there
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: was election tampering, which I've been waiting for years for
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: some accountability. And if he does that, he's going to
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: win back a lot of people. And the second point
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: is the war.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Now, pause for a second. So he's going to talk.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Is he going to go back to the 2020 election
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff? I mean, he's going
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to address the nation, they say tonight, about the SAFE Act?
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, and election fraud. He's going to go back to 2020.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And I agree. I also listened to Alex Jones's... Stand.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: By for me. Stand by. Let me do my headlines
• 36:02
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• 36:05
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• 36:08
  Speaker 1: till 5. Legal Show 5 to 6. John Arnold 6
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to 7.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: News Radio 570 WKBN.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I'm back to it. And Ron Furb, you're on the air.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Ron, how you doing? Speak of the devil.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I wasn't going to talk about options. I said I'm
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: going to break my own rule today. Just to educate Frank,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think he has a grasp of options or
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: hedging a personal account. And I don't know what his
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: net worth is, but I think I'm many, many, many,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: many billions ahead of Frank. And Micron, again, I sold
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: this morning put options, cash secured out of the money. So, yeah,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: right now Micron is selling at $ 8. 46 million. I sold
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: out-of-the-money contracts at $ 600. And what you want to do
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: with options, you want them with cash-secured puts, Frank, if
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: you listen to this. You want them to expire. You
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: collect your premium, and then you wash and repeat. You
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: do that every... I write three-weeks to four-week contracts. But
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: what I wanted to talk about was Trump, Carolyn Leavitt,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: and the... fires from Canada.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Let me get back real quick to options again. It's
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: amazing that people, you know, talk about things that they
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: have no knowledge of or no experience doing. And right now,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I have over 200 option contracts written and sold. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: to you, that would mean nothing. But to a guy like, say, Andrew,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: the accountant that calls on your show... That is a lot,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of money. And the bulk of those are
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: in cash secured puts, and 20% are in covered calls.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are talking so far over my head,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I'm totally lost.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm not going to talk about it,
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: because people tell me at coffee, don't talk about options.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: You're boring the audience.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'll say this. I think you're a really smart guy.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I have great admiration for you. I wish I knew
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: half of what you know, and I know you've done
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: extremely well and extremely successful. I commend you for the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: knowledge you have. You're just so far over my head,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to follow.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's my, leading in, such weighing into my next point,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I use AI to do, have you, do you use
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: AI at all in your?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Okay, I use it extensively in investing, and especially with options.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I use, my favorite is Grok, Gemini, and occasionally Copilot.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And what I do, this used to take me, Ron,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: three hours a day. What I do now is I
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: use Grok, I'll run a trade by it like a
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: vertical spread on an option. I ask it where I
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: had to use the probability calculator that Schwab gives me
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: and do my own work. I could ask AI, and
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Grok is really nice. It's just like Alexa, the same voice.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: But anyway, I ask it, is this trade going to
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: be profitable? What's the probability on it of expiring or
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: not expiring?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Within a minute or two minutes, it'll run the numbers.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: and then ask me, this is the AI is talking
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: to me, would you like me to run another scenario
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: farther out of the money or deep in the money? And,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: you know, it'll give you different scenarios. And it's amazing.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: what AI can do. I use it a lot for business,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: but I use it also for medical information, health, just
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: general anything. It's the future that we're not going back on.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: But anyway, let me get back to what I was
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: going to call, and I don't want to bore the
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: audience because everybody tells me to shut up. You probably
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: didn't catch Carolyn Leavitt's press conference today.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I did not. Tell me about it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: One of her better press conferences, and leading into you've
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: got to watch Trump tonight at 9 p.m., I think
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: he's going to have a good chance to win back
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of his supporters if, in fact, he comes up.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: He's going to talk about the safe and secure elections,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: but he's also going to bring up election fraud. and
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: evidence how there was election tampering, which I've been waiting
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: for years for some accountability. And if he does that,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: he's going to win back a lot of people. And
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: the second point is the war.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Now, pause for a second. So he's going to talk.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Is he going to go back to the 2020 election
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff? I mean, he's going
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to address the nation, they say tonight, about what the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: SAFE Act is.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, and election fraud. He's going to go back to 2020.
• 41:11
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• 41:16
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• 41:42
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• 41:45
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• 42:01
  Speaker 7: Two workers were airlifted with life-threatening injuries yesterday afternoon following
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: an explosion at a well drilling site in Fulton County.
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: Investigators say a crew installing a new water well may
• 42:12
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• 42:15
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• 42:18
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• 42:34
  Speaker 1: back to it. Let me just tell you, I mean,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: this is a really smart guy, and he's a savvy
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: investment guy. But but, you know, you're so far over
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: my head on that. Now, I want to shift. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: want to shift you. I hear this stuff about Trump
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: talking tonight and it's going to be at nine o'clock. Obviously,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I'll watch it. But I mean, is is he going
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to drone on about how he really won a 2020
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: election or what? I mean, what is this is going
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to be about the Save Act or whatever. Save America Act.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: As far as election goes, I mean.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I think in secure elections. But with Carolyn Leavitt was
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: implying that he's going to bring up election fraud evidence
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: and how China was involved. And do you really believe
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden got 81 million votes in 2020? No, I don't.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I think that whole election was during covid. i'm glad
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you asked that question i mean am i do i'm
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: i convinced that we have secure elections today i don't
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: support any state that mails out ballots like california that
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: just mails out ballots to everybody as i say you
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: could be dead you could have moved you don't know
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: who's voting that ballot there's the states who just mail
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: everybody a ballot i i have no confidence in the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that system at all. I have zero confidence in it
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: on any federal election or any local election. So my
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: answer to you is no. The Democrats and the politicians
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: have taken me to a point where I've, can I,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: bear with me for a minute, where I don't have
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of faith in the judicial system anymore, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I don't have much faith in the voting system anymore.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: The judicial system is becoming too political. And I always
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: thought all judges were the same when I was growing up.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: They would listen to the facts of the case, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: they would make their decision based on the facts and
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the Constitution, whether you were guilty or innocent. It had
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with politics and whether they're liberal or
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: or conservative. You follow what I mean? Just give me
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a fair shot in front of the judge, and politics
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be a factor. Well, I think politics has entered
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: judicial decisions in many cases on local cases when it
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: comes to many of these things that are going on
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: in our country. So I'm losing faith in a judicial system.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: And I certainly have lost faith in the voting system.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Do I think the COVID vote? I mean, during COVID,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the whole thing stunk to high heaven as far as
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I was concerned. And I'm losing faith in it daily
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: by these states mailing out ballots to everybody. In Ohio,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: we do it the right way. In Ohio and in Florida,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: they do it the right way. But unfortunately, there are
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: many states that do not. I believe you should show
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: an ID when you go and vote. You should have
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: to show an ID. You should have to be a U.S.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: citizen to vote, period.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's what Carolyn Leavitt was getting at. She brought
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: up the primary in California, that joke that they kept
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: extending and extending and extending until the Republican was off
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: the ballot.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And uh and then she chastised the press she said
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: after trump speaks tonight i want you guys to report
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: accurately what he said and you know let's get this
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: out in the open that we're having problems with our
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: elections and so we'll see i i i have high
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: hopes and the other thing that um Alex Jones was
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: bringing up that he might bring up the Iran war about...
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: You can't do it with an air campaign. I mean,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: you can't... We're not going to win the war through
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: the air. You're going to have to have boots on
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: the ground. So he implied that we might have a
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: coalition of troops, or maybe the Israelis would come in
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: and be our partners on the ground, which I would...
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I don't want American boots on the ground. If the
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Israelis want to do that, we'll back them up, let
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: them go in. But I hope he addresses that point.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Would you agree with me? He created a mess, he
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: being President Trump in this situation in Iran. Listen, I
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: voted for Trump. I'm a Trumpster and all that kind
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: of stuff. But I can certainly criticize him. And this
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: mission that he got us involved in is a mess
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and was a mistake from day one. I don't know
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: that you can unring the bell low. So where do
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you go from here? I don't know that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Trump hates to admit that he ever made a mistake.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: That's correct.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: That's one of his flaws.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And he's done that with COVID, where Operation Warp Speed
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: was his baby, and it was the best thing that
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: ever happened. And he won't admit that it was a
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: mistake and it hurt a lot of people. I don't
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: know if you follow Senator Johnson's... Senate hearings on COVID
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: and the VAERS reporting that was covered up. It's coming out.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It's fascinating. And, of course, the mainstream media, no one
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: knows about it because no one's going to report it.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: The number of side effects, sudden deaths, turbo cancers among
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the young, health issues, it's mind-blowing. But because Trump, that
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: was his baby, I think he's sort of not letting
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: it come out, and that's what I'd knock them on, that.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, the problem is, I don't think that
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: he's holding anybody accountable for a lot of stuff. I mean,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I can't see, I can talk about Epstein, I can
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: talk about the situation in Iran, I can talk about
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: we don't want to get involved in bogged down regime
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: change wars in the Middle East. I mean, there's a
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: lot that he's disappointed me in. I mean, make no mistake,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I would never vote for Harris or Biden or I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: wouldn't vote for any of these crazy Democrats. But the
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: reality is that this mess that he created is a
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: giant mess and trying to figure out how it's just escalating.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's not getting better. It's getting worse.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Well, he's got a chance to get his poll numbers
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: up tonight and to give us some clarity on the
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: war situation. Give us some clarity on the elections and accountability.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And if he does that, I mean, he's going to
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: win me back.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm curious what your interpretation of it is tomorrow.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So make sure you call me and let me know.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to hear them tonight. Let me
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: get back real quick to the forest fires. You know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I'm getting sick of this every year, the fires coming
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: down from Canada. When did this start? About five, six
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: years ago? It's the same policies in Canada that they
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: have in California. The liberals will not manage their forests.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: They have dry vegetation, and then when you have a drought,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: you get I don't think they're saying it's lightning strikes.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I think it's arson myself. But if you have good
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: management policies and common sense on how to, you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: take care of a forest, you won't have these problems.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: It was really bad today. I went down to coffee.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: We have a guy that rides a bike down there
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: every day, four miles or three miles, and he wrote
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: it down today, and I said, you've got to be crazy.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: and I drove by Stambaugh Municipal Golf Course, you should
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: have seen the guys out golfing. I mean, the air
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: was really bad, and I'm looking out now. You could
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: actually cut that smoke with a knife.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very visible, and you can smell it. I mean,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: it's got an odor to it, in addition to being
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: able to see how thick the smoke is. But let's
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: be realistic. People have got to go to work. You've
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: still got guys out pouring concrete driveways. You've still got
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the landscapers out. You've still got the guys from Ohio
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Edison out. There's plenty of people that don't have the
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: option not to be outside and working.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I feel sorry for those poor guys. And real quick,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: talking about guys working outside, did you see the three
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Trumbull County commissioners put an end to the fiber optic
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: laying in Trumbull County because of all the accidents?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Well, what's the alternative? I mean, OK, so what?
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Here's the alternative. Hire a competent company to put your
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: fiber optics in. That's T-Mobile hired this, I think it's
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: called Lumina. And I made a joke to a couple
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: of people. I should call ICE because all of the
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: guys that work. They don't speak English. They're all Mexicans.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but, I mean, what has that got to do
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: with putting a cable in?
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Well, they're hitting water mains.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Right, but, I mean, they're going underground. They mark the utilities.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: What's the answer to this? I mean, what they're doing
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: is they're in the easement. They have a right to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: be there because that's where the easement is, obviously, because
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: they're hitting stuff. How do you put the fiber underground? Competently.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: They laid it in our township last year. And within
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: my five-block area of my home, they hit a couple
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: of water mains in the Youngstown Water Department. I mean,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: these were big, big water breaks. And these guys, I
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: don't know if they don't know what they're doing.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Well, remember, you mark the utilities and you're going underground.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You can't visually see. You're slinging this thing underground. I
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: don't know what the answer to this is. I mean,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you go.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: My hat's off to the Trumbull County commissioners that are
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: putting a stop to it until they find out why
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: this particular company is having so many problems. And they've
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: had problems in Youngstown and in Liberty Township. Now they're
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: further up north. But I was glad to see that.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I said, finally, someone's going to You know, I don't want.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, but with all due respect, now what do you do?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: How do you put the fiber... In my neighborhood, we
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: have underground utilities. We don't have phone poles. So how
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: do you put it in the ground?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Well, you have to do it in a safe manner.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: How do you do that?
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: The commissioners want to find out. They want to find
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: out what the problems are with this particular company, why
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: they've had so many more problems than other companies.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: And.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: It's all T-Mobile cable that they're putting in. And their
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: company is called Lumina. And they hire a lot of
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: guys that... You know, I have nothing.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I have no prejudice against, you know, if you're saying, well,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: they can't speak English or they're Mexican. Well, they're at
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: least out there doing the work. That doesn't mean they're
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: lousy at their job or lousy workers. I don't go
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: for that one bit. It means they show up and
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: they're willing to do the work and move from town
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: to town to do this kind of work where we
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: got a lot of Americans, obviously, that don't want to
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Right. Not only that, these guys work like– sometimes they'll
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: be out there 12– when they did my neighborhood, they
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: were out there 12, 14 hours a day. Right.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I applaud any hardworking person, any hardworking person.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: But I would say to any of these commissioners, okay,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: so what's the answer here? They are running this system underground.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: They get the utilities marked. They think that they're missing it,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and maybe the utility is not marked properly or it's missed. Right.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: And we've had gas explosions. We've had water mains hit.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: We've had other lines that have been injured as a
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: result of it. Well, how do you– I don't know
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: what the answer is. How do you put it under–
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: in the ground?
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Well, they're going to– my hat's off to them again.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: They're going to investigate and find out. At least they–
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: those politicians did something that the Youngstown officials wouldn't do
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: and my township officials wouldn't do. They said, whoa, what's
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: going on? We've got to find out. You know, we
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: don't want these incidents happening.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: But I would hear people bitching, oh, look at what
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: they're doing in the yard. Well, that's really not your yard.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: There's an easement there. I mean, when people get this way,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know what? Would you prefer them not
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: to fix your electric line or your water line or
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: whatever else is there? This is how, if you're in
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a neighborhood like mine and a lot of people's neighborhoods,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: you have underground utilities. Well, everything is buried. Well, if
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you've got to change something out or... upgrade something. How
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: do you do that?
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: You're in the high rent district. God bless you. But
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't realize.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: You're the last one to say that with your wealth,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: believe me.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of people don't realize they don't own
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: out to the street.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, your grass goes out to the street, but
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: that's not your property.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Right. So there's an easement there for utilities. And they're
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: operating within that easement. What are they trying? They're not
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: doing some sinister thing. They're trying to run a fiber
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: optic cable so that it's there for people. And all
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: these people will tie into it and will use it.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: That's all they're trying to do. I mean, I don't
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: know what the other option is. All right.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: There's only one way to get it in. So I'll
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: let other callers get on the line and I'll... We'll
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: see what Trump says, and I hope it's a positive speech.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Well, give me some analysis tomorrow. I appreciate it. You're
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: on the air.
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: Hey, Ron, it's David Thomas.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dave. I was looking for you. All right,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Dave Thomas is out at— are you out at the Trumbull
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: County Fair?
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: I was going to say you may want to check
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: your cough, because there are people coughing here, too.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: That was a little theater of the mind here, David,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a little show business. But you're out at the Trumbull
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: County Fair?
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually have a hard time even seeing the
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: Ferris wheel.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you something, though, folks, and listen
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to me. If you run into Dave Thomas at the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Trumbull County Fair or wherever, you go up and shake
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: his hand and thank him for all that he's done
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: for all of us. I mean, you know, the guff
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: that this guy has taken and the criticism he's taken
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: from making things better for all of us is just terrific.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about that. So we
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: got the re-evaluations here in Mahoning County. that Meacham said, oh,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that's went up 25% or whatever. Talk to people about
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the legislation that you got approved, which will at least
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: hold back as big increases you would get without this legislation.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Explain that so our listeners understand. This is what Dave
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Thomas did for all of us on these new re-evaluations
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: that said, oh, your properties were 25% more. The old way,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you would get it. Explain how it would work the
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: old way and what you changed for everybody.
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: Yes. So first, big kudos to the Mahoning County Commissioners
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: and the Columbiana and the Trumbull County Commissioners for doubling
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: the owner occupancy credit. So that is one way folks
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: will already see a difference in their tax bill in January.
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: Regardless of what happens with values, that credit will double
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: average of about an extra $ 100 or so in savings.
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: What is changing with the bills that we passed last year,
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: your property values will keep changing. They'll go up, they'll
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: go down. Like Ralph said, Mahoney County increasing by 25%.
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: Under the previous law, what had essentially broken with the
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: property tax system in the last six years, that 25%
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: meant a huge unvoted spike in your tax bill. It
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: meant essentially that your property value was tied directly to
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: your tax amount, and as your property value went up,
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: your tax bill went up right along with it. And
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: that's why we've seen all the spikes.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: It would go up 25%, correct? Correct.
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: Maybe not quite 25%, but maybe 17%, 20%. There were portions,
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: you know, when you vote for a levy, regardless of
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: however those values move, that levy brings in the same
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: amount of money, but there are portions of your tax
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: bill that are tied directly to your value, and those
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: are what really spiked up to your school, to Township, Village, City, County,
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: but those really kind of just skyrocketed with the higher values.
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: So 25% increase in your value, probably, yeah, like a 17, 18, 20%
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: increase in your tax bill.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: So what, and now listen to this. Everybody listen to this.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: This is what Dave Thomas did. for you. Explain.
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: So now with our bills we passed last year, your
• 59:15
  Speaker 8: value can increase by 25%, but that is now capped
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: in terms of the tax amount. The revenue coming into
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: all those local governments is now capped to inflation. Whatever
• 59:26
  Speaker 8: inflation has been, it's now capped. for them so that
• 59:30
  Speaker 8: your tax bill will not see that spike, won't go
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: up nearly as much. It still will increase, but by
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: an inflationary amount versus what you have been seeing over
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: the last six years, which was huge unvoted spikes.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Right. Instead of getting a 17% increase, let's say you
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: would get a, what, a 4% or 5% increase?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 59:49
  Speaker 8: I don't know the exact numbers for this year. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: think those will be calculated here pretty soon, but there'll
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: be some much smaller amount of increase.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Stand by, Dave Thomas. Dave Thomas talking to us live
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: from the Trumbull County Fair. Back with Dave after this
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: and more of your calls.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All right, back
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: to it.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you, I mean, this is a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: really smart guy, and he's a savvy investment guy. But,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you know, you're so far over my head on that. Now,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I want to shift you. I hear this stuff about
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Trump talking tonight, and it's going to be at 9 o'clock. Obviously,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I'll watch it. But, I mean, is he going to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: drone on about how he really won a 2020 election?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be about the SAVE
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Act or whatever, SAVE America Act, As far as election goes,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be safe.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: And secure elections. But with Carolyn Leavitt was implying that
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: he's going to bring up election fraud evidence and how
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: China was involved. And do you really believe Joe Biden
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: got 81 million votes in 2020?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. I think that whole election was during covid.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked that question. I mean, am I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: convinced that we have secure elections today? I don't support
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: any state. that mails out ballots, like California, that just
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: mails out ballots to everybody. As I say, you could
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: be dead. You could have moved. You don't know who's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: voting that ballot. The states that just mail everybody a ballot,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I have no confidence in that system at all. I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: have zero confidence in it on any federal election or
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: any local election. So my answer to you is no.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: The Democrats... And the politicians have taken me to a
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: point where I've, can I, bear with me for a minute,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: where I don't have a lot of faith in the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: judicial system anymore, and I don't have much faith in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the voting system anymore. The judicial system is becoming too political.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: And I always thought all judges were the same when
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I was growing up. They would listen to the facts
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: of the case and they would make their decision based
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: on the facts and the Constitution, whether you were guilty
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: or innocent. It had nothing to do with politics and justice.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: whether they're liberal or conservative. You follow what I mean?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Just give me a fair shot in front of the judge,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: and politics shouldn't be a factor. Well, I think politics
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: has entered judicial decisions in many cases on local cases
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: when it comes to many of these things that are
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: going on in our country. So I'm losing faith in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a judicial system. And I certainly have lost faith in
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: the voting system. Do I think the COVID vote? I mean,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: during COVID, the whole thing stunk to high heaven as
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: far as I was concerned. And I'm losing faith in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: it daily by these states mailing out ballots to everybody.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: In Ohio, we do it the right way. in Ohio.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: And in Florida, they do it the right way. But unfortunately,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: there are many states that do not. I believe you
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: should show an ID when you go and vote. You
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: should have to show an ID. You should have to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: be a U.S. citizen to vote. Period.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's what Carolyn Leavitt was getting at. She brought
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: up the primary in California that joked that they kept
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: extending and extending and extending until the Republican was off
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: the ballot. And And then she chastised the press. She said,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: after Trump speaks tonight, I want you guys to report
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: accurately what he said. And, you know, let's get this
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: out in the open that we're having problems with our elections.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: And so we'll see. I have high hopes. And the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: other thing that... Alex Jones was bringing up that he
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: might bring up the Iran war about... You can't do
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: it with an air campaign. I mean, you can't... We're
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: not going to win the war through the air. You're
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: going to have to have boots on the ground. So
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: he implied that we might have a coalition of troops,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: or maybe the Israelis would come in and be our
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: partners on the ground, which I would... I don't want
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: American boots on the ground. If the Israelis want to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: do that, we'll back them up, let them go in.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: But I hope he addresses that point.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Would you agree with me? He created a mess. He
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: being President Trump in this situation in Iran. Listen, I
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: voted for Trump. I'm a Trumpster and all that kind
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: of stuff. But I can certainly criticize him. And this
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: mission that he got us involved in is a mess
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: and was a mistake from day one. I don't know
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: that you can unring the bell low. So where do
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: you go from here? I don't know that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Trump hates to admit that he ever made a mistake.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: That's correct.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: That's one of his flaws.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: And he's done that with COVID, where Operation Warp Speed
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: was his baby, and it was the best thing that
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: ever happened. And he won't admit that it was a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: mistake and it hurt a lot of people. I don't
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: know if you follow Senator Johnson's Senate hearings on COVID
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: and the VAERS reporting that was covered up.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: It's coming out. It's fascinating. And, of course, the mainstream media,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: no one knows about it because no one's going to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: report it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: The number of side effects, sudden deaths, turbo cancers among
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: the young, health issues, it's mind-blowing. But because Trump, that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: was his baby, I think he's sort of not letting
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: it come out. And that's what I'd knock him on, that.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, the problem is I don't think that he's
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: holding anybody accountable for a lot of stuff. I mean,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't see I can talk about Epstein.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I can talk about the situation in Iran. I can
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: talk about the we don't want to get involved in
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: bogged down regime change wars in the Middle East. I mean,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: there's a lot that he's disappointed me in. I mean,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: make no mistake, I would never vote for Harris or
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Biden or I wouldn't vote for any of these crazy Democrats.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: But the reality is that this mess that he created
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: is a giant mess and trying to figure out how
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: it's just escalating. It's not getting better. It's getting worse.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Well, he's got a chance to get his poll numbers
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: up tonight and to give us some clarity on the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: war situation. Give us some clarity on the elections and accountability.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: And if he does that, I mean, he's going to
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: win me back.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd be curious what your interpretation of it is tomorrow.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: So make sure you call me and let me know.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait to hear him tonight. Let me
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: get back real quick to the forest fires. You know,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I'm getting sick of this every year, the fires coming
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: down from Canada. When did this start? About five, six
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: years ago? It's the same policies in Canada that they
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: have in California. The liberals will not manage their forests.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: They have dry vegetation. And then when you have a drought,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: you get... I don't think they're saying it's lightning strikes.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: I think it's arson myself. But if you have good
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: management policies and common sense on how to, you know,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: take care of a forest, you won't have these problems.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: It was really bad today. I went down to coffee.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: We have a guy that rides a bike down there
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: every day. four miles or three miles, and he wrote
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: it down today, and I said, you've got to be crazy.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: And I drove by Stambaugh Municipal Golf Course. You should
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: have seen the guys out golfing. I mean, the air
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: was really bad, and I'm looking out now. You could
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: actually cut that smoke with a knife.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very visible, and you can smell it. I mean,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: it's got an odor to it, in addition to being
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: able to see how thick the smoke is. But let's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: be realistic. People have got to go to work. You've
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: still got guys out pouring concrete driveways. You've still got
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: the landscapers out. You've still got the guys from Ohio
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Edison out. There's plenty of people that don't have the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: option not to be outside and working.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I feel sorry for those poor guys. And real quick,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: talking about guys working outside, did you see the three
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Trumbull County commissioners put an end to the fiber optic
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: laying in Trumbull County because of all the accidents?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Well, what's the alternative? I mean, okay, so what.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Here's the alternative. Hire a competent company to put your
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: fiber optics in. That's T-Mobile hired this, I think it's
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: called Lumina. And I made a joke to a couple
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: of people. I should call ICE because all of the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: guys that work, they don't speak English. They're all Mexicans.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, what does that got to do
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: with putting a cable in?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Well, they're hitting water mains.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Right, but I mean, they're going underground. They mark the utilities.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: What's the answer to this? I mean, what they're doing
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: is they're in the easement. They have a right to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: be there because that's where the easement is, obviously, because
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: they're hitting stuff. How do you put the fiber in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: underground competently?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: They laid it in our township last year within my—
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: five-block area of my home, they hit a couple of
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: water mains in the Youngstown Water Department. I mean, these
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: were big, big water breaks. And these guys, I don't
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: know if they don't know what they're doing.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Well, remember, you mark the utilities and you're going underground.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: You can't visually see. You're slinging this thing. I don't
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: know what the answer to this is. I mean, I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: don't know where you go.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: My hat's off to the Trumbull County commissioners that are
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: putting a stop to it until they find out why
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: this particular company is having so many problems. And they've
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: had problems in Youngstown and in Liberty Township. Now they're
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: further up north.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: But.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: I was glad to see that. I said, finally, someone's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: going to, you know.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: I don't want.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, but with all due respect, now what do you do?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: How do you put the fiber... In my neighborhood, we
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: have underground utilities. We don't have phone poles. So how
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: do you put it in the ground?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you have to do it in a safe manner.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: How do you do that?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what the commissioners want to find out. They
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: want to find out what the problems are with this
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: particular company, why they've had... so many more problems than
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: other companies. And it's all T-Mobile cable that they're putting in.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: And their company is called Lumina. And they hire a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: lot of guys that You.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Know, I have nothing. I have no prejudice against, you know,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: if you're saying, well, they can't speak English or they're Mexican. Well,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: they're at least out there doing the work. That doesn't
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: mean they're lousy at their job or lousy workers. I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: don't go for that one bit. It means they show
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: up and they're willing to do the work and move
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: from town to town to do this kind of work
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: where we got a lot of Americans, obviously, that don't
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: want to do it. Right.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Not only that, these guys work like– sometimes they'll be
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: out there 12– when they did my neighborhood, they were
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: out there 12, 14 hours a day.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I applaud any hardworking person, any hardworking person.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: But I would say to any of these commissioners, okay,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: so what's the answer here? They are running this system underground.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: They get the utilities marked. They think that they're missing it,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and maybe the utility is not marked properly or it's missed.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: And we've had gas explosions. We've had water mains hit.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: We've had other lines that have been injured as a
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: result of it. Well, how do you– I don't know
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: what the answer is. How do you put it under–
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: in the ground?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Well, they're going to– my hat's off to them again.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: They're going to investigate and find out. At least they–
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: those politicians did something that the Youngstown officials wouldn't do
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: and my township officials wouldn't do. They said, whoa, what's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: going on? We've got to find out. We don't want
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: these incidents happening.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: But I would hear people bitching, oh, look at what
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: they're doing in the yard. Well, that's really not your yard.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: There's an easement there. I mean, when people get this way,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know what? Would you prefer them not
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: to fix your electric line or your water line or
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: whatever else is there? This is how– if you're in
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: a neighborhood like mine and a lot of people's neighborhoods,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: you have underground utilities. Well, everything is buried. Well, if
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: you've got to change something out or– upgrade something, how
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: do you do that?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: You're in the high-rent district. God bless you.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: You're the last one to say that with your wealth,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: believe me.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A lot of people don't realize they don't own
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: out to the street.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, your grass goes out to the street, but
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: that's not your property.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So there's an easement there for utilities. And they're operating
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: within that easement trying to– what are they trying? They're
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: not doing some sinister thing. They're trying to run a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: fiber optic cable so that it's there for people, and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: all these people will tie into it and will use it.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: That's all they're trying to do. I mean, I don't
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: know what the other option is. All right.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: There's only one way to get it in, so I'll
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: let other callers get on the line, and I'll– We'll
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: see what Trump says, and I hope it's a positive speech.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Well, give me some analysis tomorrow. I appreciate it. You're
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: on the air.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: Hey, Ron, it's David Thomas.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dave. I was looking for you. All right,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Dave Thomas is out at the Trumbull County Fair.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 8: I was going to say, you may want to check
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: your cough, because there are people coughing here, too.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: That was a little theater of the mind here, David,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: a little show business. But you're out at the Trumbull
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: County Fair?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually have a hard time even seeing the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: Ferris wheel.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you something, though, folks, and listen
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: to me. If you run into Dave Thomas at the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Trumbull County Fair or wherever, you go up and shake
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: his hand and thank him for all that he's done
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: for all of us. I mean, you know, the guff
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: that this guy has taken and the criticism he's taken
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  Speaker 1: from making things better for all of us is just terrific.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about that. So we
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: got the re-evaluations here in Mahoning County. that Meacham said, oh,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: that's went up 25% or whatever. Talk to people about
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: the legislation that you got approved, which will at least.
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  Speaker 1: Hold back as big an increase as you would get
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  Speaker 1: without this legislation. Explain that so our listeners understand. This
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: is what Dave Thomas did for all of us on
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: these new re-evaluations that said, oh, your properties were 25% more.
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  Speaker 1: Explain how it would work the old way and what
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: you changed for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: So first, big kudos to the Mahoning County Commissioners, and
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  Speaker 8: the columbiana and the trumbull county commissioners for doubling the
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  Speaker 8: home for the owner occupancy credit so that is one
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  Speaker 8: way folks will already see a difference in their tax
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: bill in january regardless of what happens with values that
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: credit will double average of about extra hundred dollars or
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: so in savings what is changing with the bills that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: we passed last year your property values will keep changing
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: they'll go up they'll go down like ralph said Mahoney
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: County increasing by 25%. Under the previous law, what had
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: essentially broken with the property tax system in the last
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: six years, that 25% meant a huge unvoted spike in
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: your tax bill. It meant essentially that your property value
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 8: was tied directly to your tax amount, and as your
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: property value went up, your tax bill went up right
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: along with it. And that's why we've seen all the spikes.
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  Speaker 1: It would go up 25%, correct? Correct.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe not quite 25%, but maybe 17%, 20%. There were portions,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: you know, when you vote for a levy, regardless of
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: however those values move, that levy brings in the same
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 8: amount of money, but there are portions of your tax
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: bill that are tied directly to your value, and those
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 8: are what really spiked up to your school, to township, village, city, county,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 8: but those really kind of just skyrocketed with the higher values.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 8: So 25% increase in your value, probably, yeah, like a 17, 18, 20%
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  Speaker 8: increase in your tax bill.
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  Speaker 1: So what, and now listen to this. Everybody listen to this.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: This is what Dave Thomas did for you. Explain.
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  Speaker 8: So now with our bills we passed last year, your
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: value can increase by 25%, but that is now capped
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 8: in terms of the tax amount. The revenue coming into
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: all those local governments is now capped to inflation. Whatever
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: inflation has been, It's now capped for them so that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: your tax bill will not see that spike, won't go
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: up nearly as much. It still will increase, but by
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 8: an inflationary amount versus what you have been seeing over
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: the last six years, which are those huge unvoted spikes.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Right. Instead of getting a 17% increase, let's say you
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: would get a, what, a 4% or 5% increase?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know the exact numbers for this year. I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: think those will be calculated here pretty soon, but there'll
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: be some much smaller amount of increase.
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  Speaker 1: Stand by, Dave Thomas. Dave Thomas, talking to us live
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: from the Trumbull County Fair. Back with Dave after this
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  Speaker 1: and more of your calls. I heart radio.
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  Speaker 4: Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN. All right, 355.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: All right, Dave Thomas. So, basically, because of the legislation
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: that you got approved, the increase from the re-evaluations will be,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: let's say, 15%. Oh, maybe 4%, 5%, 6% in that ballpark?
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, that inflation amount. And then that's just purely
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: from value. So like I said, your value can go
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: up by 25%. That revenue will only increase by inflation.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 8: And what we've also done is we've now required the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: local governments to say formally that they're accepting those increases,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: that they're the ones actually raising property taxes with those
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: higher values, and reminding them that they can actually say no.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: And they can forego those increases as well. So it's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: just putting that in the front of mind for folks.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Now, this is very important for all of us to understand.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: So instead of saying, okay, the former way that these
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: would be done, like when they were done last time,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: and you get this, big 17%, 18% increase in your
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: property taxes based on the re-evaluations, you pass legislation that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: says it will be tied to the rate of inflation.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: So the rate of inflation is maybe 4% or 5%.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: So it'll still be an increase, but it'd be a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: much smaller one than it would have been if you
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: did nothing. That's number one. And number two is, who
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: can determine whether or not they want to accept this?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Who makes that decision?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: Each one of the boards. So going straight down, the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: county commissioners, they can accept for their portion of the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: tax bill. Your school board, they can accept for their portion.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 8: Your city, they can accept for their portion. And the township,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: they accept for theirs, whether they're going to bring in
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 8: that increase in unvoted taxation, or if they're going to
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: decrease their tax rates and bring in the same amount
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 8: of money.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: So this is important to understand. So everybody knows, all
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: of the local politicians that say the following, boy, we
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: understand the difficulties of our young people buying a home,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: our older citizens staying in their property. We get it.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: We're going to find out now if that's just lip
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: service or if it's reality. if it's lip service or reality,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: because you're saying your local politicians have the ability to
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: say no to these increases, which means that the property
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: tax payer would not have to pay additional money. Correct.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: And the great thing about what the commissioners of Trumbull, Mahoning,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: and Columbiana did with doubling the owner occupancy credit, it
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: was making a decision for everyone, essentially, so that anyone
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 8: that lives in those counties... they know they're going to
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: have that doubling, and that's being done. But these increases
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: that come from higher valuations, that essentially is up to
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: each local government, and that's up to the boards of
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: those local governments. Do they accept them? Do they not?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 8: What does it actually look like? And we're seeing entities
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 8: across Ohio actually saying, no, we're going to decrease our
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 8: tax rates. We're not going to take in these increases.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: And we'll keep things the same. We'll keep things flat.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Well, we shall see what happens here. And incidentally, that
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: doubling of the owner-occupancy in Mone and County is only
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: for a year. I mean, they've just agreed for a year.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Why only a year? Why not just say... Why put
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: a time frame on it? Stand by, Dave Thomas. Hang
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: in there. He's going to talk about fiber, too, but
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I want to finish a discussion on this. Then I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: get to more of your calls. Hang on. And talk
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: station 570 WKBN. All right, 355. All right, Dave Thomas. So, basically,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: because of the legislation that you got approved, the increase
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: from the re-evaluations will be, let's say... Oh, maybe 4, 5, 6%
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: in that ballpark?
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, that inflation amount. And then that's just purely
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 8: from value. So like I said, your value can go
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: up by 25%. That revenue will only increase by inflation.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: And what we've also done is we've now required the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 8: local governments to say formally that they're accepting those increases,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 8: that they're the ones actually raising property taxes with those
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 8: higher values. and reminding them that they can actually say no,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 8: and they can forego those increases as well. So it's
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 8: just putting that in the front of mind for folks.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Now, this is very important for all of us to understand.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: So instead of saying, okay, the former way that these
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: would be done, like when they were done last time,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: and you get this big 17%, 18% increase in your
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: property taxes based on the re-evaluations, you pass legislation that
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: says it will be tied to the rate of inflation.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: So the rate of inflation is maybe 4% or 5%.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: So it'll still be an increase, but it'd be a
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: much smaller one than it would have been if you
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: did nothing. That's number one. And number two is who
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: can determine whether or not they want to accept this?
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Who makes that decision?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: Each one of the boards. So going straight down, you know,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 8: the county commissioners, they can accept for their portion of
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: the tax bill. Your school board, they can accept for
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: their portion. Your city, they can accept for their portion.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 8: And the township, they accept for theirs, whether they're going
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 8: to bring in that increase in unvoted taxation or if
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 8: they're going to decrease their tax rates and bring in
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 8: the same amount of money.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: This is important to understand. So everybody knows all of
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: the local politicians that say the following. Boy, we understand
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: the difficulties of our young people buying a home or
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: older citizens staying in their property. We get it. We're
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: going to find out now if that's just lip service
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: or if it's reality. if it's lip service or reality,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: because you're saying your local politicians have the ability to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: say no to these increases, which means that the property
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: tax payer would not have to pay additional money.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 8: Correct. And the great thing about what the commissioners of Trumbull, Mahoning,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 8: and Columbiana did with doubling the owner occupancy credit, it
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: was making a decision for everyone, essentially, so that anyone
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: that lives in those counties they know they're gonna have
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 8: that doubling and that's that's being done but these increases
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 8: that come from higher valuations that essentially is up to
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 8: each local government and that's up to the boards of
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 8: those local governments you know do they accept them do
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: they not what does it actually look like and we're
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: seeing entities across ohio actually saying no we're going to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 8: decrease our tax rates we're not going to take in
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: these increases and we'll keep things the same. We'll keep
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: things flat.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we shall see what happens here. And incidentally, that
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: doubling of the owner-occupancy in Mone and County is only
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: for a year. I mean, they've just agreed for a year.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Why only a year? Why not just put a time
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: frame on it? Stand by Dave Thomas. Hang in there.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: He's going to talk about fiber, too, but I want
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: to finish the discussion on this. Then I get to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: more of your calls. Hang in there. Hey, Ron, I'm
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: going to go check in with Mike Leonard. He's out
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: at Bernard Daniels. They're right there at 250 Railroad Street.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: in canfield it's where you go for lumber it's where
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: you go for decking it's where you go for anderson
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: windows with the great window warehouse it's where you go
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: for silver creek kitchen cabinets hey it's i'm telling you
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: it's all full of terrific products and great savings it's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: a stop you got to make let's talk a little
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: bit mike about decking these days what do you have
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: for me Well.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: If you're working on a decking project, we have treated lumber,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: we have 4x4s, we have treated decking, we have composite decking,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: we have Trex, some colors in stock, and we have
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: a few big piles of closed-out decking. A lot of
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: colors to choose from. It's worth a visit.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Folks, I can tell you personally, I bought some
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: of that closed-out decking, and it's terrific. Saved a bundle
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: on so much at Bernard Daniels 250 Railroad Streets in Canfield.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: What are the hours, Mike?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: We're here Monday through Friday, 730 to 5, Saturday, 8
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: to noon.