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- 0:00Speaker 1: Limited limited by the way, it means they don't take
- 0:02Speaker 1: all the reps okay, or it means that they only
- 0:04Speaker 1: do individual drills and not teamwork. It just it depends
- 0:07Speaker 1: on the coaches discretion, but they have to declare them
- 0:09Speaker 1: either limited or d NP did not practice. Uh, So
- 0:13Speaker 1: here you go. Leonard was limited. A j Can was
- 0:17Speaker 1: limited with the tri steps injury, had a brace on
- 0:19Speaker 1: his arm. Jeremy Pornell has been limited a lot of
- 0:22Speaker 1: the knee injury last year. He's had some elbow shoulder issues.
- 0:25Speaker 1: It's not unusual for him to be limited. T J
- 0:28Speaker 1: Yeldon was limited with an ankle. Brandon Wilde's with an illness.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Did not practice. Brandon Linder did not practice on Wednesday,
- 0:38Speaker 1: and neither did Austin Seferian Jenkins. So you kind of
- 0:41Speaker 1: get the sense that Lender and Cefarian Jenkins are going
- 0:45Speaker 1: to practice on Wednesday the veteran days. Right. It's it's
- 0:48Speaker 1: just the way it's going to be over the course season.
- 0:50Speaker 1: But a fairly healthy team despite the fact that they've
- 0:52Speaker 1: got seven guys on the injury report, right, and I
- 0:55Speaker 1: know weekly you're gonna expect a few of those to
- 0:57Speaker 1: be honest, So it really doesn't come as much surprise weekly, No,
- 1:01Speaker 1: but there is an area of concern, and that is
- 1:03Speaker 1: is that the offensive line was effectively completely limited yesterday.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Right So a J Can is on this, I'm not sorry.
- 1:09Speaker 1: A J Can sorry. Start on the left side. Cam
- 1:12Speaker 1: Robinson is obviously done for the season, so you don't
- 1:16Speaker 1: have him. And then Andrew or Well did practice. He
- 1:19Speaker 1: was full according to the injury report, but Brandon Leonard
- 1:21Speaker 1: didn't go at all, and both a J. Can and
- 1:25Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell were limited. So the offensive line that you
- 1:28Speaker 1: hoped to have this season had one guy on the
- 1:31Speaker 1: field yesterday. Right Now, you look at it two ways.
- 1:33Speaker 1: One as well, you've got a lot of young depth
- 1:35Speaker 1: and hopefully they get the reps. And these are veteran
- 1:37Speaker 1: players and they know how to get ready for the game.
- 1:39Speaker 1: But practice beats not practicing any daily week. Go ask
- 1:42Speaker 1: Doug Moron or Tom Coughland or anybody who over on
- 1:44Speaker 1: that side of the football Hall has a lot to
- 1:46Speaker 1: say in this thing. You would like to have all
- 1:49Speaker 1: of your offensive linemen out there. Yeah, it's a little borrisome,
- 1:52Speaker 1: but then you come and look at Sunday's game when
- 1:54Speaker 1: they allowed zero sacks that offensive line. They're playing at
- 1:56Speaker 1: such a high level like we wanted to see, So
- 1:59Speaker 1: that means that they're playing at that high level every
- 2:01Speaker 1: Sunday Wednesday, practice won't worry me too much. If they
- 2:04Speaker 1: don't play at a high level, that's when I think
- 2:05Speaker 1: I would start to worry. Well, you can do it
- 2:08Speaker 1: for a week or two, but if that's the norm
- 2:11Speaker 1: every week that a j with the triceps and Jeremy
- 2:14Speaker 1: with the knee and Lender with the knee aren't practicing,
- 2:18Speaker 1: that becomes very troublesome there. That becomes an issue. Yeah,
- 2:22Speaker 1: if it becomes an every week kind of thing. Now, look,
- 2:24Speaker 1: there is there's a school thought in the NFL these
- 2:27Speaker 1: days about about resting, about getting guys bodies back, and
- 2:29Speaker 1: how much they need to practice and you know, limited
- 2:32Speaker 1: hits that guys can take. So a lot of veterans
- 2:35Speaker 1: get the veteran day that we think we're seeing with
- 2:37Speaker 1: Brandon Linder to keep him as healthy as possible. There
- 2:41Speaker 1: are a lot of veteran players around the league to
- 2:43Speaker 1: get that. So it bears monitoring, right. I don't think
- 2:46Speaker 1: you get overly worried, but you do look to see
- 2:48Speaker 1: who's going to practice today. I would imagine if this
- 2:51Speaker 1: week is like last week, Brandon goes today, Um, you
- 2:56Speaker 1: probably see Jeremy limited, but and and can right but
- 3:00Speaker 1: of practice Friday and get the reps in their veterans.
- 3:02Speaker 1: You can kind of get it done, but it isn't
- 3:04Speaker 1: something you want to see much of. By the way,
- 3:06Speaker 1: Josh Wells steps into the starting line and according to
- 3:10Speaker 1: Jeff Loghaman, who was with us here on Tuesday, played
- 3:14Speaker 1: pretty well. Talked to him yesterday. He felt great about
- 3:17Speaker 1: his chance to play and the mindset when he stepped
- 3:20Speaker 1: onto the field. You know, there's an old adage about
- 3:25Speaker 1: always being one play away from being in the starting
- 3:28Speaker 1: line of Josh Wells arrived here with Blake Bortles as
- 3:32Speaker 1: an oversized tight end, undersized offensive tackle from James Madison, undrafted.
- 3:37Speaker 1: You could see the skill set in him, but he
- 3:40Speaker 1: never has been able to stay healthy. It's been it
- 3:42Speaker 1: was a hand, it was a thumb for two years.
- 3:45Speaker 1: He was on injured reserve for the entire year. But
- 3:47Speaker 1: it taught him how to be ready, how to be
- 3:49Speaker 1: prepared even though he wasn't playing. It taught him how
- 3:52Speaker 1: to understand what he needed to be ready for. He
- 3:56Speaker 1: can play on the left side. He can play on
- 3:57Speaker 1: the right side. I'm interested to see him get it
- 4:00Speaker 1: starting lineup and face some top competition, and we'll see
- 4:03Speaker 1: that from Tennessee on Sunday. There are some pass rushers there.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Briana Rapko can still bring it from the outside. Harold Landry,
- 4:09Speaker 1: their second or third round pick from Boston College, is
- 4:12Speaker 1: a guy who last week had a couple of very
- 4:13Speaker 1: effective pass rushes. Um Wells is going to It's going
- 4:18Speaker 1: to be a test for him all season long to
- 4:20Speaker 1: see if he's up to this challenge. And by the way,
- 4:22Speaker 1: he's not that naturally oversized offensive lineman he needs to
- 4:27Speaker 1: go to dinner every night and have an extra cheeseburger. Problems. Well,
- 4:31Speaker 1: there are certain guys that have to work to keep
- 4:33Speaker 1: their weight up over the course of the season. And
- 4:35Speaker 1: it's not that he said, hey, by the way, you
- 4:37Speaker 1: don't need an extra cheeseburger. But you look at the
- 4:38Speaker 1: guy and you can see, well, Cam Robinson is just
- 4:41Speaker 1: this naturally large human being, right with the long arms
- 4:46Speaker 1: and the big shoulders, and Josh is bigger than you
- 4:48Speaker 1: or me or Joe or Reber or any of us, right,
- 4:51Speaker 1: but you can see where he has to work to
- 4:53Speaker 1: keep it on. Good for him and that he's got
- 4:56Speaker 1: the opportunity now, and good for him. He's got a
- 4:58Speaker 1: great work ethic because he's going to have to scrap
- 5:00Speaker 1: at it all season long. That's how he came into
- 5:03Speaker 1: the league, That's how he'll stay in the league. That'll
- 5:06Speaker 1: be someone I'm really interested in watching on Sunday. Yeah,
- 5:08Speaker 1: I think it'll definitely be a storyline on Sunday. I
- 5:10Speaker 1: thought it was funny. Yes, Jay Blake Portles press conference,
- 5:12Speaker 1: he used to play Josh used to play quarterback in
- 5:15Speaker 1: high school. He said he's gain a lot of weight
- 5:17Speaker 1: since high school, so you know he can do it. Yeah,
- 5:19Speaker 1: well three fifteen is a little heavier than most quarterbacks. Yeah,
- 5:22Speaker 1: just a little bit heavier than that. A guy to watch.
- 5:24Speaker 1: But the offensive line as a group, like to see
- 5:28Speaker 1: them on the practice field together today, or at least
- 5:30Speaker 1: more of them together all right. Time for a big
- 5:31Speaker 1: thing number two. Big thing number two or switching teams.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Here is the Titans injury report. Now. They have a
- 5:35Speaker 1: few players injured, but dun Maron said they're not really
- 5:38Speaker 1: worried about that. They're getting ready to play a very
- 5:40Speaker 1: good team. The big, strong, powerful they leave the league
- 5:45Speaker 1: in the least amount of hits and pressures, you know,
- 5:47Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a challenge for us up front. Um,
- 5:50Speaker 1: you know, I'll see if we can get after the
- 5:51Speaker 1: quarterback when they dropped back, but that's not going to
- 5:53Speaker 1: start until we show we can stop the run. So
- 5:58Speaker 1: when Doug's press conference, just I feel like every question
- 6:01Speaker 1: he was saying something good about the Titans, and keep
- 6:04Speaker 1: he kept bringing it back twice. Yeah, he kept bringing
- 6:06Speaker 1: it back to this is a good team. We need
- 6:08Speaker 1: to get ready, bringing up Derrick Henry, bringing up the
- 6:10Speaker 1: offensive line and defensive line. So, yes, they're dealing with injuries,
- 6:14Speaker 1: but Doug seems to be taking this very serious. All right,
- 6:16Speaker 1: So let me go through their injury report and just
- 6:18Speaker 1: throw some names at You have guys that were limited
- 6:20Speaker 1: yesterday and and and we have some commentary on this.
- 6:23Speaker 1: UH Marcus Mariota limited with the elbow, Derrick Henry limited
- 6:27Speaker 1: with the back, UH Taylor Lawan, Jack Conklin, and Dennis Kelly.
- 6:32Speaker 1: UH Conklin and Lauan the offensive tackles both limited, and
- 6:36Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly the backup the swing tackle, the Josh Wells,
- 6:39Speaker 1: if you will, UH did not practice in fact, not
- 6:42Speaker 1: even with the team because of an illness that had
- 6:45Speaker 1: him hospitalized last week. Alright, so the three names to
- 6:48Speaker 1: know there because Henry played, uh, Marcus Mariota, Taylor Lauan,
- 6:53Speaker 1: Jack Conklin. So we'll start with Mariota, who told the
- 6:56Speaker 1: media yesterday that it wasn't just a couple of fingers,
- 6:59Speaker 1: but the whole hand with which he's still struggling and
- 7:02Speaker 1: is not able to completely practice. He has tingling in
- 7:06Speaker 1: two fingers, but the whole hand is an issue gripping
- 7:10Speaker 1: the ball, the release of the ball. Right, Yeah, so
- 7:13Speaker 1: that's an issue now. I mean he made practice today
- 7:15Speaker 1: and have no things. He said it was like a
- 7:18Speaker 1: guitar string, if you can imagine that, when you strum it,
- 7:21Speaker 1: the vibration keeps going right until all of a sudden
- 7:24Speaker 1: it stops, but it takes time for it to lose
- 7:27Speaker 1: its momentum. And he says the nerve kind of feels
- 7:30Speaker 1: like that. It isn't always painful, but he can always
- 7:32Speaker 1: kind of. Yeah, it's an annoyance and it it does
- 7:35Speaker 1: impact his grip and his release of the football. Um,
- 7:39Speaker 1: they're optimistic. I don't we saw what that meant last week?
- 7:42Speaker 1: Here they're going to because he is in a critical
- 7:46Speaker 1: year and they want a solid evaluation. By the way,
- 7:49Speaker 1: we'll have Jim Wyatt on from Titans Online dot Com
- 7:53Speaker 1: at about nine o'clock and we'll get his thoughts on
- 7:55Speaker 1: big picture on Marcus Mariota. Um, they've gotta have a
- 7:58Speaker 1: good look at him, and they've to see him with
- 8:01Speaker 1: his best chance to be his best self so to speak. Um,
- 8:06Speaker 1: that doesn't appear that that's this week, but they need
- 8:09Speaker 1: to see that. The other two guys are are probably
- 8:12Speaker 1: as critical as Mariota, and that's the all Pro tackles.
- 8:15Speaker 1: So tailor to one. The left tackle just became the
- 8:19Speaker 1: highest pay tackle in football. And Jeff was explaining on Tuesday,
- 8:23Speaker 1: the you know the way it's head whipped. It wasn't
- 8:25Speaker 1: helmet to helmet contact, but the the whip with the
- 8:28Speaker 1: body that was thrown backwards trying to corral a pass rusher. UM.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Still not cleared by the outside council. And we saw
- 8:36Speaker 1: last year with the Telvin Smith, who they thought was,
- 8:39Speaker 1: you know, making progress and going to play on Friday,
- 8:42Speaker 1: we had dug in here and right before he walked in,
- 8:44Speaker 1: he found out, Oh he's not ready to go, right. Yeah,
- 8:48Speaker 1: so you don't know on that one. And he's a
- 8:50Speaker 1: terrific football player. The right tackle was all Pro as
- 8:53Speaker 1: a rookie. Jack Conklin still coming back from the A
- 8:56Speaker 1: c L that he toured during the playoffs in January,
- 8:58Speaker 1: hasn't played yet, hasn't practiced fully yet. I don't know
- 9:02Speaker 1: that he's going to be ready all of a sudden
- 9:03Speaker 1: you start going full in week three. So they are
- 9:07Speaker 1: beat up, and they have issues on their offensive line,
- 9:10Speaker 1: which has been very good for a number of years.
- 9:12Speaker 1: They've been as good as you'd find as a unit. Um,
- 9:15Speaker 1: those three players are going to be critical to see
- 9:17Speaker 1: that injury report tomorrow where they are listed on Friday afternoon. Yeah,
- 9:22Speaker 1: I know Doug mentioned that they're preparing for both quarterbacks
- 9:25Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota and Blaine Gabertt, which you would assume they are,
- 9:27Speaker 1: But if Mariota doesn't go, I know they'll be so
- 9:30Speaker 1: prepared for Blaine Gabertt. They know him so well well.
- 9:32Speaker 1: And I watched J. J. Watt Uh and the Texans
- 9:35Speaker 1: Titans game and he just controlled the line of scrimmage
- 9:39Speaker 1: on that left side of the defense against the backup tackle. Uh.
- 9:44Speaker 1: And of course they brought someone up from the practice
- 9:45Speaker 1: squad and j J Watt, I think we all know
- 9:48Speaker 1: it's not quite himself yet, still working its way back
- 9:50Speaker 1: from that broken leg, the back which has bothered him
- 9:53Speaker 1: for a couple of years. When you line up Calais
- 9:55Speaker 1: Campbell and Dante Fowler and um, you he can go way.
- 10:01Speaker 1: What a challenge for the Titans offensive front to try
- 10:04Speaker 1: to protect already dealing with injuries, try to protect their quarterbacks.
- 10:07Speaker 1: So that's a matchup to watch, and of course we'll
- 10:09Speaker 1: talk about that with Jim Wyatt coming up in just
- 10:12Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. Big thing number three, young lady,
- 10:14Speaker 1: Big thing number three is rivalries. We've been talking all week.
- 10:17Speaker 1: You know, we had the Twitter poll who is the
- 10:19Speaker 1: Jaguars biggest rival. When we went in the locker room yesterday,
- 10:21Speaker 1: we found out they're all thinking it's the Titans. For us,
- 10:25Speaker 1: it keeps us that momentum going, you know, because we
- 10:27Speaker 1: just got the Patriots. So now it's like we can't
- 10:28Speaker 1: get beat by these guys. You know, they just want
- 10:30Speaker 1: they just want to championship last year and they went
- 10:32Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year, so we go down. You know.
- 10:35Speaker 1: That's that's so we don't want to lose to this team.
- 10:37Speaker 1: You know, we feel like we'd just be a great
- 10:39Speaker 1: team and the Patriots. Now we have to continue to
- 10:40Speaker 1: be a good team and the Titans. So let me
- 10:44Speaker 1: offer you a lesson on the rivalry. Right. Well, and
- 10:48Speaker 1: here's why. Because Fred Measter, who retired a few years
- 10:52Speaker 1: ago as the starting center, he came in and played
- 10:55Speaker 1: right after the Titans had beaten the Jaguars three times
- 10:58Speaker 1: in wars were the team in football. In ninety nine,
- 11:01Speaker 1: they finished fifteen and three, all three losses to the Titans. Right,
- 11:05Speaker 1: Titans go on to play in the Super Bowl and lose,
- 11:07Speaker 1: so that really poured fuel on the fire. Meester comes
- 11:11Speaker 1: in in the draft in UH two thousand, so he
- 11:15Speaker 1: automatically gets indoctrinated into the rivalry because he played with
- 11:19Speaker 1: guys who played in those big games. Then he he's
- 11:24Speaker 1: here for a long period of time. And Marcedes Lewis
- 11:27Speaker 1: comes in in two thousand six, and so Louis gets
- 11:30Speaker 1: from Meester how important the rivalry is because Meestre talks
- 11:33Speaker 1: about it. Well, now Meester and Mercedes are both gone,
- 11:36Speaker 1: so there's no ties left to this rivalry anymore. They
- 11:40Speaker 1: were the oilers on Opening Day the first time the
- 11:43Speaker 1: Jaguars played, and they beat the Jaguars ten to three
- 11:46Speaker 1: here on opening Day. They were still the Oilers in
- 11:50Speaker 1: when they came in here and delayed you a week
- 11:53Speaker 1: from claiming your first division title in front of your
- 11:55Speaker 1: home fans. Right. Uh, they were the Titans in ninety
- 11:59Speaker 1: nine nine when they took three games from you and
- 12:03Speaker 1: stole your best chance to go to the Super Bowl.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Their coach after that, Jeff Fisher, who's been around this
- 12:10Speaker 1: game a long time, at the Super Bowl press conference,
- 12:13Speaker 1: was asked about moving his team from Houston and the
- 12:15Speaker 1: Astrodome too. They played a year in Memphis where they
- 12:18Speaker 1: played at the Liberty Bowl, to Vanderbilt Stadium in ninety
- 12:20Speaker 1: eight in Nashville to their new home that year, and
- 12:23Speaker 1: he talked about all the home stadiums in different environments,
- 12:26Speaker 1: and he famously quip, what you forgot one all Tell
- 12:29Speaker 1: Stadium and Jacksonvilles our home stadium as well. I mean
- 12:31Speaker 1: all the fans just went nuts, they lost their minds.
- 12:35Speaker 1: So this rivalry endured from until two thousand two two,
- 12:39Speaker 1: and then the Jaguars took a downturn. Uh, the Titans
- 12:42Speaker 1: have for for most of that time been. I don't
- 12:46Speaker 1: wanna see irrelevant that that sounds completely disrespectful, um, But
- 12:49Speaker 1: they have not been relevant in terms of the championship
- 12:52Speaker 1: levels of this, just like the Jaguars. Both teams have
- 12:55Speaker 1: been down. Well. Now both teams are back, and last
- 12:57Speaker 1: year kind of felt a little bit like ninety nine.
- 13:00Speaker 1: The Jaguars were better team and went to the a
- 13:03Speaker 1: f C championship game and yet they lost both times
- 13:07Speaker 1: to the Titans. Right, so it feels like all of
- 13:10Speaker 1: a sudden it's back and that there's that that bad
- 13:14Speaker 1: taste in the mouth of players like Calaias, although Malik
- 13:19Speaker 1: had Malik showed it more. I talked to Calais and
- 13:22Speaker 1: he don't want to go there. He was very business
- 13:24Speaker 1: like you can usually you know, you can usually get
- 13:27Speaker 1: him affable, amiable. No way yesterday he was all business. Um.
- 13:31Speaker 1: But a lot of the guys in that locker room,
- 13:32Speaker 1: as you showed with Malik, they're ready for this rivalry
- 13:36Speaker 1: to come back. Because I don't think it's gonna be
- 13:38Speaker 1: the Colts Texans you had to a degree, because they've
- 13:41Speaker 1: beaten this team on a regular basis too, But it's
- 13:44Speaker 1: the Titans rivalry that has endured and now comes back right,
- 13:47Speaker 1: and it's just the present to the only team that
- 13:49Speaker 1: beat you twice last season. So yes, when you go
- 13:52Speaker 1: back to all that time, I see the importance of it.
- 13:55Speaker 1: But with this locker room and how young they are,
- 13:57Speaker 1: just looking back one season, I can see why they
- 13:59Speaker 1: think this is so important. And I thought it was
- 14:00Speaker 1: funny yesterday when Leak said, you know, we both think
- 14:03Speaker 1: both teams are bad. The Titans think the Jaguars are bad.
- 14:05Speaker 1: The Jaguars think the Titans are bad. No matter how
- 14:07Speaker 1: successful the teams are recently, they're always gonna think, you know,
- 14:11Speaker 1: the other team is just not very well. And Fred
- 14:14Speaker 1: Taylor popped off a couple of times after they the
- 14:18Speaker 1: Titans had beaten the Jaguars twice, and we're the better team.
- 14:22Speaker 1: We're the better team. I don't care what they did.
- 14:23Speaker 1: We're the better team. We're the better team. Um, well,
- 14:26Speaker 1: Samari rule and um the tight ends name is escaping
- 14:30Speaker 1: me at this moment of Frank, so you can't help me.
- 14:35Speaker 1: You weren't even right. But they they pop back and
- 14:41Speaker 1: and there was words in the media. It was crazy.
- 14:45Speaker 1: So now you've got it again with Jurrell Casey, Joe
- 14:48Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm gonna I'm gonna don't don't look
- 14:50Speaker 1: it up. Um, Darrell Casey um last year. So that
- 14:56Speaker 1: that that kind of fuels it, that that kind of
- 14:58Speaker 1: talk fuels it. I think there's an inch sting little
- 15:00Speaker 1: element that Jalen Ramsey and Nashville kid right, Um, so
- 15:04Speaker 1: we'll see it should be fun. Yeah, the Jaral Casey comments.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Blake was asked about those yesterday and he almost went there.
- 15:09Speaker 1: He was asking do you care about those? And he
- 15:11Speaker 1: almost went and repeated the comments, pulled back and said, no,
- 15:14Speaker 1: I don't care. Frank why chick? I don't know why.
- 15:16Speaker 1: He's very involved in mediaup there. I should have known.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Senior moment. All right, let's do this. Let's take a break.
- 15:20Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll have NFL headlines and then
- 15:23Speaker 1: we'll have a f C South head lines. Jim Wyatt
- 15:26Speaker 1: joins us at the top of the hour, and then
- 15:27Speaker 1: Marcus Pollard about ten after nine four, little game called
- 15:30Speaker 1: who said it? In a preview of tonight's Brown's Jets game.
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- 17:04Speaker 1: what we have today? Who talks today? Oh? Big day?
- 17:07Speaker 1: Leonard for new and Jalen Ramsay. Yeah, we'll have all
- 17:10Speaker 1: of that for you here on all the Jaguars social
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- 17:22Speaker 1: Am I missing anything? That's always an entertaining day on Thursday? Sorry,
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- 17:30Speaker 1: since we think we've pretty much covered it and we've
- 17:32Speaker 1: got Jim Wyatt coming up at the top of the hour. Uh.
- 17:35Speaker 1: That's ignorant was the general theme in the Texans locker
- 17:40Speaker 1: room yesterday. I don't know whether you caught this or not.
- 17:43Speaker 1: I think with everything else going on around here yesterday,
- 17:45Speaker 1: a lot of people may have missed this. But a
- 17:47Speaker 1: um A superintendent from the on Alaska School District. It's
- 17:53Speaker 1: somewhere in Texas, I guess, posted on Facebook late in
- 17:58Speaker 1: the Bowl game in on Sunday, after the Titans had
- 18:03Speaker 1: beaten the Texans. You can't count on a black quarterback
- 18:07Speaker 1: when you're looking for precision. He put them on Facebook, right,
- 18:11Speaker 1: So obviously the blowback on that, I mean that's just
- 18:14Speaker 1: I mean, come on, are you kidding that? What's more ignorant?
- 18:17Speaker 1: Saying it right or posting it? Um? I mean that's
- 18:22Speaker 1: just so. J. J. Watt, all of his teammates, uh,
- 18:27Speaker 1: the head coach, coach, yeah, Bill O'Brien. I mean, they
- 18:30Speaker 1: just they did so. I mean, look, Abraham Lincoln once
- 18:33Speaker 1: said that nothing is sometimes the right thing to do,
- 18:34Speaker 1: but always a clever thing to say. Somebody needs to
- 18:36Speaker 1: tell this school superintendent. I mean, come up, you supposed
- 18:39Speaker 1: an educated person. Obviously, if you're educating, right to come
- 18:43Speaker 1: out and say that. I thought. What was really I
- 18:46Speaker 1: really liked it was how Deshaun Watson handled it right.
- 18:49Speaker 1: He said peace be with him right. He didn't. He
- 18:52Speaker 1: didn't get all bent out of shape, he didn't act offended.
- 18:54Speaker 1: He just moved on. I like DeShawn Watson more and more.
- 18:59Speaker 1: I like watching him play, I like listening to him.
- 19:01Speaker 1: He's a There's a reason why he was so successful
- 19:04Speaker 1: at Clemson, and why his teammates have such high regard
- 19:07Speaker 1: for him, and why so many people around the league.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Think he's going to be a special quarterback. He's the
- 19:11Speaker 1: whole package. He does, acts like a professional at such
- 19:13Speaker 1: a young age. And I thought it was promising how
- 19:15Speaker 1: you saw the Texans all rally around this. Everyone's sticking
- 19:18Speaker 1: up from so a negative at sometimes trying into of
- 19:22Speaker 1: people who see that comment, go, did he really say that? Wait?
- 19:25Speaker 1: What what are you doing? Are you kidding me? Uh?
- 19:28Speaker 1: But I really liked me and I really liked the
- 19:31Speaker 1: way that Deshaun Watson handled out. Uh. Leonard the man
- 19:34Speaker 1: in Indi, Well, um, we're talking about Leonard for Nett,
- 19:38Speaker 1: We're talking about Darius Lendon. The rookie was named the
- 19:41Speaker 1: a f C Defensive Player of the Week. Fifteen solo
- 19:44Speaker 1: tackles in the Colts win over the Redskins on Sunday
- 19:48Speaker 1: fifteen solo, he forced to fumble, had a sack. Uh.
- 19:51Speaker 1: The word back in April on this kid was they
- 19:54Speaker 1: loved him. They thought he was as good as ro
- 19:56Speaker 1: Kwan Smith, the Georgia standout who ended up going in
- 19:59Speaker 1: the top ten to the Bears. Uh. They took him
- 20:01Speaker 1: in the second round, and they've got something on defense
- 20:05Speaker 1: with him that you know. Look you look at their defense,
- 20:07Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of talent on it but him.
- 20:10Speaker 1: He can be one. He can be the guy who
- 20:11Speaker 1: you know, they they've got a long way to go
- 20:13Speaker 1: and building that defense, but you've got one of the
- 20:14Speaker 1: cornerstones that you need a playmaker in the middle of
- 20:17Speaker 1: the defense to Congratulations to Darius Leonard, the a f
- 20:20Speaker 1: C Defensive Player of the Week in Indian Animals talk
- 20:24Speaker 1: about having a good day, a really good day. A
- 20:26Speaker 1: f C South headlines complete, Let's move on to NFL headlines,
- 20:30Speaker 1: news and notes around the National Football League and we
- 20:33Speaker 1: start with the big picture, the long view, as we
- 20:35Speaker 1: like to say. So Aaron Rodgers came back into that
- 20:38Speaker 1: ball game on opening night and beat the Bears, and
- 20:41Speaker 1: everyone was jacked up. It was a great story. However,
- 20:44Speaker 1: after the tie ball game against the the Vikings last Sunday,
- 20:49Speaker 1: when he was hit nine times by that great Vikings defense,
- 20:52Speaker 1: he's sore. He is really really sore. Uh. He likened
- 20:57Speaker 1: it to he said, do you ever see that movie
- 20:58Speaker 1: Rocky three? Yep? Juice Rocky three? Okay, all, I just
- 21:01Speaker 1: want to make sure because that was a nineties movie too.
- 21:03Speaker 1: I think had to go back. Yeah, I had to
- 21:04Speaker 1: go back and watch it. He said, Clubber lang that
- 21:06Speaker 1: kind of pain. I love the Clubber lying reference. Uh,
- 21:10Speaker 1: he said, that's what it feels like right now. And
- 21:11Speaker 1: they are concerned about the Packers ability to do things
- 21:16Speaker 1: they do, the r p O stuff, the play action stuff.
- 21:18Speaker 1: They have acknowledged that they're gonna have to watch very
- 21:21Speaker 1: closely to the knee. Plus, he's a million dollar man, right. Uh,
- 21:25Speaker 1: you have to think big, big picture because he has
- 21:27Speaker 1: eighty million dollars guaranteed against that cap. You need him
- 21:31Speaker 1: to health yeah, well, and you need him to play
- 21:34Speaker 1: multiple years. You cannot risk the knee. Uh. They are
- 21:37Speaker 1: evaluating that. Obviously. We talked earlier about Vetter in days,
- 21:41Speaker 1: he'll be a guy who likely doesn't practice a lot
- 21:42Speaker 1: on Wednesday week. It's sure Will, It's sure Will. Here's
- 21:47Speaker 1: the storyline for you. The NFL is not messing around. Um,
- 21:54Speaker 1: so here's the story. They were fined two hundred thousand dollars.
- 21:59Speaker 1: They had multiple play is on the field in the preseason.
- 22:02Speaker 1: That's where there no messing around comes from. In the preseason.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Wearing the coach to coad not it's not coached the
- 22:07Speaker 1: quarterback anymore, coached a player because the defensive player wears
- 22:11Speaker 1: them as well, but they had multiple players on the
- 22:12Speaker 1: field at the same time with the helmet that allows
- 22:14Speaker 1: them to hear from the coach. Uh. Not the first
- 22:16Speaker 1: time that these guys have been fined. They lost a
- 22:19Speaker 1: couple of offseason workouts this year because they were in
- 22:22Speaker 1: full pads. They lost some two years ago, and we're
- 22:25Speaker 1: fined about five thousand dollars lost of offseason camp. Ravens
- 22:29Speaker 1: are not known as a They're not like the Patriots
- 22:31Speaker 1: where people look at them and say, hey, the cheat.
- 22:34Speaker 1: But they've pushed the edge and have paid for it,
- 22:38Speaker 1: and they're paying for it again a two dollar fine.
- 22:40Speaker 1: The Ravens came out with a statement that said the
- 22:43Speaker 1: equipment people were unaware of the rules. So the equipment
- 22:46Speaker 1: people on the hook for that. Can you imagine having
- 22:49Speaker 1: to go and say, yeah, I did something wrong. It's
- 22:52Speaker 1: going to cost the franchise two guys. I kind of
- 22:55Speaker 1: made a little mistake. I won't do it again, though,
- 22:58Speaker 1: Promise that won't happen. Promised that one happened. Yikes. Yeah, Now,
- 23:03Speaker 1: if you think that's bad, check this out. John Gruden,
- 23:08Speaker 1: who traded away Khalil Mack, made comment yesterday to the
- 23:12Speaker 1: media in Oakland that top pass rushers are really hard
- 23:16Speaker 1: to find. Quote, it's hard to find a great one.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Did he say that you? Did he say it had
- 23:24Speaker 1: a great one? So the right. So Mac now in
- 23:27Speaker 1: Chicago is part of a defense that leads the NFL
- 23:30Speaker 1: with ten sacks. The Raiders are thirty out of thirty
- 23:33Speaker 1: two teams with only two Mac credited with eight quarterback
- 23:37Speaker 1: pressures in two games. Um, that's a lot. The Raiders
- 23:42Speaker 1: total only have twelve. What I even go near that subject.
- 23:49Speaker 1: I just wonder when he says something, I mean, and
- 23:50Speaker 1: he's so highly regarded as a coach to the to
- 23:53Speaker 1: the degree that the Raiders gave him ten million dollars.
- 23:55Speaker 1: And they wouldn't have been the only team that would
- 23:57Speaker 1: have been interested in hiring John at an exorbit at
- 24:00Speaker 1: rate if he had made known, Hey I'm ready to
- 24:02Speaker 1: come back. You know who wants me? There are a
- 24:04Speaker 1: lot of people. I mean, this is a guy who's
- 24:06Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame caliber coach. His time in broadcasting
- 24:09Speaker 1: alone lifted him to that level. Besides the championship he
- 24:12Speaker 1: won fifteen years ago. Ryan, and all of a sudden
- 24:15Speaker 1: he says that it's he either knows more than everyone
- 24:18Speaker 1: else about Khalil Mack and what he's doing and will
- 24:21Speaker 1: in the next three years prove everybody wrong. Or he
- 24:24Speaker 1: should have stayed in the broadcast both yeah, or just
- 24:26Speaker 1: made a very dumb comment to make your fan base
- 24:29Speaker 1: even more upset with you, hence should have stayed in
- 24:31Speaker 1: the broadcast. Boot right, Okay, time for a break when
- 24:34Speaker 1: we come back. Jim Wyatt, formerly of the Tennessee and
- 24:37Speaker 1: in Nashville, a long time reporter who has covered the Titans,
- 24:40Speaker 1: now working for Titans Online dot com, joins us to
- 24:44Speaker 1: share some thoughts on Marcus Mariot to the injury report
- 24:47Speaker 1: and the rivalry between the Jaguars and the Tennessee Titans.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Were back after this on the Jaguars Digital Network. And
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- 26:04Speaker 1: Thursday morning in Jacksonville, sun making its way over the horizon.
- 26:07Speaker 1: It should be a beautiful hot day. It'll be hot
- 26:10Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon as well. That's what you expect September
- 26:13Speaker 1: in Florida, Folks, Jaguars and Titans Sunday afternoon at t
- 26:17Speaker 1: I A A bank Field. Brian Sexton actually Sullivan back
- 26:19Speaker 1: with you, and we are happy to welcome. Jim Wyatt
- 26:22Speaker 1: from Titans online dot Com mentioned earlier that he worked
- 26:25Speaker 1: with the Tennessee and before that, Jim, good morning, how
- 26:28Speaker 1: are you. I'm doing great? I hope you're doing well.
- 26:31Speaker 1: We are, and and I know you were on radio
- 26:33Speaker 1: here yesterday and you did the story with John Osier,
- 26:36Speaker 1: and I remarked to somebody that the rivalry has to
- 26:39Speaker 1: be back for us to be looking for the Titans
- 26:42Speaker 1: perspective as deeply as we are every day of this week.
- 26:46Speaker 1: There's a hunger for it down here. Do you get
- 26:48Speaker 1: the sense that that the people in Nashville, the players,
- 26:51Speaker 1: the organization feels this rivalry is back based on last season, Yeah,
- 26:56Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I think it's because of the
- 26:58Speaker 1: success of both teams. I think it's because of some
- 27:01Speaker 1: of the back and forth has taken place, you know,
- 27:04Speaker 1: during and after games, And I think it's because of
- 27:06Speaker 1: what's on the line, you know, moving forward. I mean,
- 27:09Speaker 1: I mean, both these franchises had great success a while back,
- 27:14Speaker 1: you know, went through some lean years. UH still remained
- 27:17Speaker 1: competitive and and UH really split a lot of series
- 27:22Speaker 1: no matter how good the other team was. And now
- 27:24Speaker 1: we're back to where these teams are competing at the
- 27:27Speaker 1: top of the division with some of elite players. So
- 27:30Speaker 1: it's fun, especially for people who date back to the
- 27:33Speaker 1: nine season and and some of the old days and
- 27:36Speaker 1: the robbery to remember what it was like back then. Well,
- 27:39Speaker 1: when jeral Casey was talking last year after the Jagguers
- 27:42Speaker 1: had won the division but the Titans had beaten them twice,
- 27:45Speaker 1: I couldn't help but remember samari Roll and Fred Taylor
- 27:48Speaker 1: and Frank white Chak going back in ninety nine and
- 27:50Speaker 1: going back and forth throughout the course of that and thinking,
- 27:53Speaker 1: this is good. It's good for both teams, it's good
- 27:56Speaker 1: for both cities, it's good for the NFL. Um tell
- 28:00Speaker 1: us about your quarterback and not not necessarily Jim whether
- 28:04Speaker 1: he's gonna play this week or not, but but big
- 28:06Speaker 1: picture on him. The word, at least from the outside
- 28:09Speaker 1: looking in, was that this was a critical year for
- 28:11Speaker 1: him to establish himself. How are they approaching this year
- 28:16Speaker 1: with Marcus Mariotta or has he already shown them enough
- 28:18Speaker 1: in other ways that they're going to go forward with him? Well,
- 28:23Speaker 1: I think certainly everybody respects him and knows his potential
- 28:27Speaker 1: and uh and admires the way he kind of works
- 28:31Speaker 1: and carries himself both on and off the field. I
- 28:35Speaker 1: do think it is a big year for him. You know,
- 28:37Speaker 1: he he has shown some really good signs and done
- 28:41Speaker 1: some really good things already in his career. Uh, didn't
- 28:45Speaker 1: have as good a year last year, and I think
- 28:48Speaker 1: part of that reason was because he was in an
- 28:50Speaker 1: offense that kind of handcuffed him a little bit. And
- 28:53Speaker 1: that's why Mike Malarkey's not the head coach here anymore.
- 28:56Speaker 1: It's why they team made a coaching change. Uh. You know,
- 29:01Speaker 1: it was designed to get to maximize Marcus Mariota's potential
- 29:07Speaker 1: moving forward. Now, Uh, that has come with a lot
- 29:11Speaker 1: of changes, and it's tough to just snap your finger
- 29:14Speaker 1: and expect it to look perfect. And unfortunately for him,
- 29:17Speaker 1: now he's dealing with an injury at the start of
- 29:20Speaker 1: his season. That's uh, that's kind of slowed some of
- 29:24Speaker 1: that momentum down. Yeah. I think in the long run,
- 29:27Speaker 1: they expect him to be very comfortable in this offense,
- 29:30Speaker 1: to expect him to take his game to another level
- 29:34Speaker 1: playing in this offense. But uh, right now, things are
- 29:38Speaker 1: kind of on hold as they wait for an elbow
- 29:41Speaker 1: injury kinme a freakish injury that happened in Week one,
- 29:44Speaker 1: wait for it to settle down and and how quickly
- 29:46Speaker 1: that happens. Uh, it's kind of unknown because it's uh,
- 29:51Speaker 1: it's kind of a unique injury. Jim. The players in
- 29:54Speaker 1: this Jaguars locker room keep bringing up this week. You know,
- 29:57Speaker 1: this is the team that beat us twice last season.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Is the talk in the Titans locker about the Jaguars
- 30:02Speaker 1: this week? Well, I think everybody knows the challenge and
- 30:07Speaker 1: and yes, the Titans did beat the Jaguars both times
- 30:10Speaker 1: last year. But Jacksonville won the division, and I think
- 30:13Speaker 1: everybody respects that you don't do that by just uh
- 30:16Speaker 1: sleep walking your way to the top. I mean, Jacksonville
- 30:19Speaker 1: earned it, but by the way they played over the
- 30:22Speaker 1: sixteen game season. You know, I'll watch that an FC
- 30:26Speaker 1: championship game against the Patriots and and I feel like
- 30:29Speaker 1: Jacksonville should have won that game and should have gone
- 30:31Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. And uh so, I think everybody
- 30:33Speaker 1: realizes the challenge at the head. Uh no, yeah, I
- 30:38Speaker 1: think I also realized that there has been a lot
- 30:40Speaker 1: of back and forth. You know, uh mentioned the comments
- 30:44Speaker 1: from Jarred Casey. Will you know, some Jags have made
- 30:47Speaker 1: some comments in the wake of games as well, so
- 30:51Speaker 1: people extra motivated by that also realized this this is
- 30:55Speaker 1: a huge division game. I mean, Jacksonville has a chance
- 30:59Speaker 1: to go to three and oh, out of the right,
- 31:01Speaker 1: out of the gate jump out two games in the
- 31:03Speaker 1: division over the Titans. So, uh, Titans need to win
- 31:07Speaker 1: just to keep to keep right in the middle of
- 31:10Speaker 1: the race and not fall behind early. Has the Titans
- 31:14Speaker 1: personality two years ago when they started climbing they were
- 31:17Speaker 1: faster than the Jaguars back to that point where they
- 31:19Speaker 1: were a contender based on largely on their running game, Uh,
- 31:23Speaker 1: and the smash mouth that they brought with Derrick Henry
- 31:26Speaker 1: and DeMarco Murray. Has the personality of the offense changed
- 31:31Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, that offensive line was so
- 31:33Speaker 1: good to Jim. Are they still that smash mouth team
- 31:36Speaker 1: even though there's a new coach and a new um,
- 31:39Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. Do they still have that that
- 31:42Speaker 1: piece of their personality that kind of sets the tempo
- 31:45Speaker 1: for the defense. Well, for this time right now, they do.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know, I think part of that
- 31:52Speaker 1: because of what's going on at quarterback, and eventually I
- 31:56Speaker 1: think it will be you know, a broader offense where
- 31:58Speaker 1: you're gonna see more play my acres and you're gonna
- 32:00Speaker 1: see more plays down field, and you're gonna see Marcus
- 32:03Speaker 1: Mariota do more. Uh. Instead of just taming the ball
- 32:07Speaker 1: off to Rick Henry and letting him hammer away, and
- 32:10Speaker 1: Dean and Lewis kind of fits a nut game playing
- 32:13Speaker 1: as well, because he brings a little something different. With
- 32:16Speaker 1: Mariota banged up, they kind of went back to that
- 32:18Speaker 1: against Houston, I mean, because they knew they were gonna
- 32:21Speaker 1: have to pound the ball and run it. And they
- 32:23Speaker 1: did that again and again and again against the Texans.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Uh depending on what happens with Marcus and how at
- 32:30Speaker 1: his availability for Sunday, you can see that again this week.
- 32:35Speaker 1: And uh so I suspect that at least during the
- 32:39Speaker 1: short term, you're gonna see, uh see him try to
- 32:43Speaker 1: hammer it and try to pick up those tough yards
- 32:45Speaker 1: and try to make it a physical game. And they
- 32:49Speaker 1: certainly have the personnel to do that because Corey Davis,
- 32:51Speaker 1: ready to fill the role that Delanny Walker had is
- 32:54Speaker 1: the go to guy. Well, he's got to prove it
- 32:57Speaker 1: over the long run. I like what I see from
- 32:59Speaker 1: him so far. I mean, I felt bad for him
- 33:00Speaker 1: last year. He came in here with such high expectation.
- 33:03Speaker 1: He injured a hamstring down at Jacksonville in a week
- 33:06Speaker 1: two and then was put on the shelf. For several weeks.
- 33:09Speaker 1: When he came back, he wasn't himself. He kind of
- 33:11Speaker 1: came He kind of picked up some steam at the
- 33:13Speaker 1: end of last season, but kind of left everybody wanting more.
- 33:17Speaker 1: I thought he had a really good off season. Uh,
- 33:19Speaker 1: he's off to a really good start this season, catching
- 33:22Speaker 1: the ball, being physical, exactly what they draft him the beat.
- 33:25Speaker 1: I love his skill set. I love the way he
- 33:28Speaker 1: catches the ball and create some space for him with
- 33:31Speaker 1: the physical style of play. And as long as he
- 33:33Speaker 1: stays healthy, I think he's going I think he's gonna
- 33:36Speaker 1: really be a good play He's a big, strong, long look,
- 33:39Speaker 1: I mean, just looks like a prototype receiver for today's game.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Throws people off of him too. That there was a
- 33:46Speaker 1: there was a play against Houston where he caught a
- 33:48Speaker 1: pass and and uh and he pretty much threw a
- 33:51Speaker 1: defender off of him and kind of got the sideline
- 33:54Speaker 1: fired up. He knows that's what he's here to do.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Just a quick thought on the defense, it looks like
- 33:58Speaker 1: you've got young playmakers now on all three levels with
- 34:02Speaker 1: with Landry upfront now and Evans in the middle, and
- 34:05Speaker 1: obviously what you've done with the secondary back there has
- 34:08Speaker 1: the defense changed significantly in just the first two games.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Do you see a different approach from them? Well, I
- 34:15Speaker 1: think it's better across the board. And then some of
- 34:18Speaker 1: that's because of the young guys and some of it
- 34:21Speaker 1: because the main stays like Gerald Casey and Wesley Woodyard
- 34:25Speaker 1: and Derek Morgan and Brian Rackpoe. You know, Malcolm Butler
- 34:29Speaker 1: has brought an edge to this defense. Uh and and
- 34:32Speaker 1: Kevin Byrd obviously bower all Pro who led the league
- 34:37Speaker 1: in takeaways. He's a game changer. I think the young
- 34:39Speaker 1: guys will make more of an impact movement for they.
- 34:42Speaker 1: You know, Harold Landry played in his first game against Houston.
- 34:45Speaker 1: He flashed, He had a couple of quarterback pressures. He
- 34:48Speaker 1: didn't get a sack, but I think he showed what
- 34:50Speaker 1: he's capable of. We still haven't seen a lot of
- 34:52Speaker 1: Rashaan Evans uh. You know, he dealt with a hamstring
- 34:55Speaker 1: injury and camp. He just played one snap in his
- 34:58Speaker 1: debut Sunday that was on special teams. I think you'll
- 35:01Speaker 1: see him more involved moving forward, and I think the
- 35:04Speaker 1: defense will look even different with him playing in the middle.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Now when we saw last year with the addition of
- 35:09Speaker 1: just a few key guys can do. They went from
- 35:12Speaker 1: being good at the end of two thousand sixteen to
- 35:14Speaker 1: great in two thousand seventeen. So you see the additions
- 35:17Speaker 1: up there and you think, wow, they with Mike Vrabel
- 35:19Speaker 1: obviously in DMPs, they've got a scheme in place that
- 35:23Speaker 1: that this defense by the time this season is over,
- 35:26Speaker 1: what you've got up there in Tennessee should be really good. Yeah.
- 35:30Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing too. Even though you
- 35:31Speaker 1: had a coaching change and you had a lot of, uh,
- 35:34Speaker 1: you know, a lot of changes on offense and defense,
- 35:37Speaker 1: going from Dick Lebo to Deem Peace didn't change a
- 35:40Speaker 1: whole lot as far as what guys are being asked
- 35:42Speaker 1: to do. So I think it's made the transition a
- 35:45Speaker 1: little bit smoother, and then they just added to it.
- 35:47Speaker 1: From a personnel standpoints, I do think it's got a
- 35:51Speaker 1: chance to be really good by it in the season.
- 35:53Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt from Titans Online dot com. We know what
- 35:55Speaker 1: Thursdays you're like. We know you've got a busy one
- 35:57Speaker 1: in front of you. We certainly appreciate your time, and
- 35:59Speaker 1: we'll see on Sunday in Jacksonville. Okay, you guys have
- 36:03Speaker 1: a great day, appreciated to Jim Watt with a insider's
- 36:07Speaker 1: perspective on the Tennessee Titans. We come back. We got
- 36:10Speaker 1: a little insider joining us. Next Marcus Pollard on Jags
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- 37:31Speaker 1: Jack's Drive Time final segment here on Thursday tomorrow. Obviously
- 37:34Speaker 1: coffee with the coach. Doug Marone joins us. We'll have
- 37:37Speaker 1: my Dempsey in Fantasy Guru a big show, oh and
- 37:40Speaker 1: the Ocean guy. So now it's time our pleasure to
- 37:43Speaker 1: bring in Marcus Poller, former NFL tight end. Would it?
- 37:47Speaker 1: How do you describe what you do to people who say, Marcus,
- 37:50Speaker 1: what do you do for the jacket? You know, that's
- 37:51Speaker 1: interesting because you do so many I wear a lot
- 37:54Speaker 1: of hats, and your utility in fielder pretty much you're
- 37:57Speaker 1: the jose A Kendo that of the Jacksonville jacket. You
- 38:00Speaker 1: like it. That's a baseball reference. It's pretty good one.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Joe Forgnados pressed because I'm a baseball guy. I mean
- 38:06Speaker 1: that guy. I know that guy. My son asked me
- 38:09Speaker 1: that on Saturday. He was up here hanging and I said, Dad,
- 38:11Speaker 1: what do you do every day? I said, I don't know.
- 38:13Speaker 1: It's right, it's saying just every day. I mean It
- 38:15Speaker 1: could be guy having an issue. It could be someone
- 38:17Speaker 1: needs some help but you know, going back to school.
- 38:20Speaker 1: It could be you know, Heaven's come says, so guys
- 38:21Speaker 1: about what's going on in practice. I mean it could be.
- 38:23Speaker 1: It could go from A to Z, and it could
- 38:26Speaker 1: be Brian and Ashland saying, hey, come join us on
- 38:28Speaker 1: the show. You want to tap to your vast knowledge
- 38:32Speaker 1: before we play the game. Let's talk about tonight's game.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Let's get that out of the way first. You have
- 38:37Speaker 1: a Cleveland team that's coming off an excruciatingly painful loss.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Did you ever have one of those where you thought,
- 38:43Speaker 1: I mean, none of it will ever be as painful
- 38:45Speaker 1: as that, because now, what have they lost? Like twenty
- 38:48Speaker 1: in a row, and and and right they have they
- 38:52Speaker 1: have one forever and here you are with a chance
- 38:56Speaker 1: to essentially win the game. There's no there's no guarantee
- 38:59Speaker 1: that Drew Brees doesn't go back down the field like
- 39:00Speaker 1: he did in a minute sixteen and kicked the game
- 39:02Speaker 1: winning field goal. Anyway, but it was right there in
- 39:05Speaker 1: overtime too. Yeah, that was painful a loss. I felt
- 39:08Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, I feel bad for the Cleveland Browns
- 39:11Speaker 1: and their fans. And the entire organization at this point,
- 39:13Speaker 1: because to be so close in the two games and
- 39:15Speaker 1: then here you are a national televised game, you know,
- 39:18Speaker 1: and then they talk, you know, good, well, we talk
- 39:20Speaker 1: all the time about you played with peyton Man. You
- 39:22Speaker 1: won a lot, but you probably had an excruciating loss somewhere.
- 39:25Speaker 1: Yeah along the lines. I'm sure we did. I just
- 39:27Speaker 1: can't think of one off top. That's good. Good for you, Yeah, yeah,
- 39:31Speaker 1: because we we did, went some games, but they spent
- 39:33Speaker 1: two years in Detroit. I was going to take that shot,
- 39:36Speaker 1: but I didn't know how sensitive you were. I'm not sensitive.
- 39:39Speaker 1: I just spent two years in Detroit, which was, you know,
- 39:41Speaker 1: great years. And I'm sure we took losses, but they weren't.
- 39:44Speaker 1: They didn't come down the field goals. It would have
- 39:46Speaker 1: came down to like twenty three points from behind. So
- 39:48Speaker 1: do you think it's a good thing that they turned
- 39:50Speaker 1: around and get the jets at home so quickly? So
- 39:53Speaker 1: they you want to get it out as soon as possible.
- 39:56Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you go out and
- 39:57Speaker 1: lose again, it's like, what are we doing? You know,
- 40:00Speaker 1: we saw them last year, Marcus. It was cold and
- 40:04Speaker 1: snowy and they had some talent, they didn't have quite
- 40:08Speaker 1: enough at quarterback, but we could tell watching their defense,
- 40:11Speaker 1: and if they could just upgrade the offensive line a
- 40:12Speaker 1: little bit, maybe fix the quarterback position, I gotta figure
- 40:15Speaker 1: they they're ready to win. I think they're they're right
- 40:18Speaker 1: on the cusp of winning winning games, and not just
- 40:20Speaker 1: winning win game, but stagging some games together. Because I
- 40:23Speaker 1: think Hugh Jackson's doing a good job of, you know,
- 40:25Speaker 1: managing the the roster and bringing in some great players.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Um and have a mouse Garrett, young guy who is
- 40:34Speaker 1: talent there. Now you know it can really get to
- 40:36Speaker 1: the quarterback. And if you can get to the quarterback,
- 40:38Speaker 1: you got a chance of winning. I tried to explain
- 40:40Speaker 1: to people how good it felt around here last year
- 40:43Speaker 1: for this team to start winning again, right because we
- 40:45Speaker 1: had expectations over a couple of years that this team
- 40:47Speaker 1: would get better. Can you imagine going through what they've
- 40:50Speaker 1: been right, I mean essentially all the way back to
- 40:53Speaker 1: right since they came back in and they have had
- 40:56Speaker 1: almost no success, but the last two years in particular,
- 40:59Speaker 1: I losing in this league casts a shadow all week
- 41:04Speaker 1: and it's tough to get away from it. I mean,
- 41:06Speaker 1: by Thurs day, you're you're kind of coming out of it,
- 41:07Speaker 1: but you feel it and week after week and the
- 41:10Speaker 1: week and looking forward and going no and no. I mean,
- 41:13Speaker 1: that's that's a book. In fact, I asked Cody Kesler,
- 41:15Speaker 1: the Jaguars backup quarterback, who was on that team last year?
- 41:19Speaker 1: It's it was? He said, it was a fight every
- 41:23Speaker 1: week to keep yourself up. Yeah, I can only imagine.
- 41:27Speaker 1: You know, I spent some some some mean years up
- 41:30Speaker 1: in Detroit and it was a struggle every day just
- 41:32Speaker 1: trying to find a motivation just to come into building.
- 41:35Speaker 1: You enjoy hanging around the guy and you want to
- 41:36Speaker 1: be a part of something special. But to get up
- 41:38Speaker 1: every day and think, oh man, all we're gonna win,
- 41:40Speaker 1: and have that doubt in your mind to think can
- 41:43Speaker 1: we actually win a game here? Lose? You know? That
- 41:46Speaker 1: makes it Yeah, that makes it really tough. I think
- 41:47Speaker 1: they're America's team. I think all of America who's gonna
- 41:50Speaker 1: watch tonight is pulling for the Browns. I want to
- 41:52Speaker 1: see them win. It's the hard knocks effect or what.
- 41:54Speaker 1: But there seems to be more eyes on this team
- 41:56Speaker 1: this season, under dog dog pound. Nobody wanted to watch
- 42:01Speaker 1: somebody I mean, there's one thing when you see your
- 42:04Speaker 1: your arch rival go down on something like yes, right,
- 42:07Speaker 1: you enjoy that. No one likes to see someone be
- 42:10Speaker 1: pummeled into submission. So good luck to Night Browns. I
- 42:14Speaker 1: think they get it. Bill Brown's there you go, right, Well,
- 42:17Speaker 1: you're wearing orange for the brown You planned that, right? Alright,
- 42:21Speaker 1: take control of this show, please, Big Brown's gallo over here? Right?
- 42:26Speaker 1: Are we ready? Who said it? You're deating yourself last week? Yeah?
- 42:30Speaker 1: I gotta get better? We all do ye? I think
- 42:33Speaker 1: you went to for four last week. I want to
- 42:35Speaker 1: say you beat John Osire a week one though, so
- 42:37Speaker 1: that's just you know, you can say that for the
- 42:39Speaker 1: rest of your life. I get that one on jail definitely.
- 42:43Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I wanted to see my
- 42:45Speaker 1: rival pummeled. Starting off with a little pop culture hashtag.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Greatest thing about the nineties, it's gotta be with real
- 42:53Speaker 1: Marty Marr. Right that show? Was it? M M popular?
- 42:59Speaker 1: More Martin Lawrence the show Martin? You don't know that? Yeah?
- 43:06Speaker 1: Well I know he knows that, um popular show. A
- 43:12Speaker 1: player who would have been somewhat I'm having to go yeah,
- 43:16Speaker 1: I'm having to go there. Uh, but that could be
- 43:19Speaker 1: if you think about it, it couldn't. You have a
- 43:21Speaker 1: young roster. Okay, all right, I got a guess. No good,
- 43:27Speaker 1: guess that I always go to Miles because when he's out.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Yeah yeah all the time. Right, I'm gonna go with
- 43:38Speaker 1: Klaas Campbell. No, both wrong, Okay, a J boy. I
- 43:46Speaker 1: would have been thought he's a he's a big guy.
- 43:49Speaker 1: Every time. I remember that he's always talking about a cartoon,
- 43:52Speaker 1: him and his daughter watch. He's really into pop culture.
- 43:56Speaker 1: All right, I'll have to win him. Guess that one, though,
- 44:01Speaker 1: I have only lost on that one. Yeah, that was
- 44:05Speaker 1: an MP question. Okay, I thought he great. Good for him.
- 44:07Speaker 1: How about a b S question? All right, I think
- 44:09Speaker 1: you both will get this one. A certain member of
- 44:12Speaker 1: the n b A said this my two favorites to
- 44:15Speaker 1: watch on their sides the ball, young Kinks, talking about
- 44:18Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. And Jalen Ramsey. Oh this is easy. Yeah,
- 44:22Speaker 1: I thought this was a shoeing. You guys both need
- 44:25Speaker 1: some help. We need some wee next week. I think
- 44:28Speaker 1: maybe I'm going to ask the questions and we'll see
- 44:29Speaker 1: how you do. No, no, no, no, I like to bash. Right,
- 44:32Speaker 1: I got this one. Of course. Yeah. I think we
- 44:34Speaker 1: both get this one. Yeah, let's see it because I yes, yes, really,
- 44:40Speaker 1: And I enjoyed the NBA playoffs last year. I thought
- 44:43Speaker 1: they were They weren't great in the finals, but I
- 44:46Speaker 1: loved watching the Celtics and the Calves. I thought that
- 44:50Speaker 1: was a great series. And Lebron James is just I mean, yeah,
- 44:53Speaker 1: I think he's awesome too. For I guy, this such
- 44:55Speaker 1: a icon and a pop culture figure. To be so
- 45:00Speaker 1: in depth and enrolled in football and the players, you know,
- 45:03Speaker 1: I think it's really and loves the Browns and always
- 45:06Speaker 1: talks about Ohio State, big time fan there. So but
- 45:10Speaker 1: to expand his horizon's pass Ohio and started looking around
- 45:14Speaker 1: NFL and connect with somebody. I think it's cool. Cool
- 45:17Speaker 1: he is. He's just he's so high up in terms
- 45:22Speaker 1: of pop culture. Everybody. Even if you don't follow sports,
- 45:25Speaker 1: you know who he is. You can go to China
- 45:26Speaker 1: and people. I watched the NBA playoffs, but I don't
- 45:29Speaker 1: watch the NBA season. He's still I follow him. Okay.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Pretty cool for Jalen Ramsey to see that notification that
- 45:34Speaker 1: Lebron James Instagram. That's pretty cool. Alright. Last one sticking
- 45:39Speaker 1: up for Blake Bortles. Yet again, Blake doesn't get nearly
- 45:43Speaker 1: the credit he deserves. Go back and watch some of
- 45:45Speaker 1: the balls from two thousand fourteen. I'll give you a hint.
- 45:49Speaker 1: It's an offensive player who tweeted this this morning. An
- 45:54Speaker 1: offensive player, yes, and he has to be on Twitter, yes.
- 45:58Speaker 1: And he has to have been around to have seen
- 46:04Speaker 1: mm hmmm. I don't know about that. He could have
- 46:07Speaker 1: watched it on TV. He could have just turned Thanks
- 46:11Speaker 1: for the subtle hints. And it was this morning, and
- 46:17Speaker 1: it has to be involved in Twitter obviously. So it's
- 46:20Speaker 1: not Brandon Linder or Andrew Norwell. No, I'm getting too
- 46:25Speaker 1: much away. Ten seconds, he's got an answer. I'm gonna
- 46:32Speaker 1: go with Leonard four Nett. I would see why you
- 46:35Speaker 1: would say that he sticks up for his quarterback. But no,
- 46:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Austin Supherion Jenkins. But no. But
- 46:41Speaker 1: he at lea sticks up for his quarterback. It is
- 46:44Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, who, since he is injured, tweeted a lot
- 46:48Speaker 1: this week, but sticking up for Blake. We've got to
- 46:51Speaker 1: change the rules of this game. MP. They gotta narrow
- 46:53Speaker 1: it down. Yeah, we got we gotta get a multiple choice,
- 46:55Speaker 1: got no chance. There's no chance I would have guessed
- 47:00Speaker 1: that none whatsoever. What Cam Robinson, I just wouldn't have
- 47:05Speaker 1: thought that was paying attention. I don't even know Cam
- 47:07Speaker 1: was on Twitter. He is, he's been active on Twitter
- 47:09Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, a man laid up. He might need
- 47:12Speaker 1: Twitter so much. All Right, I'm gonna go with a
- 47:14Speaker 1: tie on this one. Okay, I'll take it. You can't
- 47:17Speaker 1: come up with a question off the top of your head.
- 47:19Speaker 1: You can't come up with a question off the top
- 47:20Speaker 1: of your head, off the top of my head, something
- 47:23Speaker 1: on Twitter and let us win. All right, Well, we'll
- 47:25Speaker 1: go for it next week, the bonus question next week.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Next week, come with an extra question and then have
- 47:30Speaker 1: a bonus bonus a tiebreaker. But of course, at the
- 47:35Speaker 1: way that we were going at this the Tyberk, it
- 47:38Speaker 1: would have been a tie to actually, thank you, thank
- 47:42Speaker 1: you great. We appreciate you joining us on Jack's Drive
- 47:45Speaker 1: time for Joe Fortunano and Stone Cold Brent River, stone
- 47:49Speaker 1: Cold Cold, thanks for watching tomorrow. Coffee with the Coach
- 47:54Speaker 1: this afternoon, Happy all with JP and crew. Tell you hey,
- 48:06Speaker 1: it was both a