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Hour Two | NFL WR 1 Tier List, Where Does Saints Chris Olave Land? · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back in oh tb sure on this
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  Speaker 3: Thursday morning. Into a little receiver one tier list. So
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna kind of layout who is going to be
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  Speaker 3: can we just yell the team at you and you
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  Speaker 3: tell us who you have is their number one receiver? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And then if we, you know, maybe have some debate
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  Speaker 3: up here, we can go to that. Uh, the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 3: who do you Shakir? All right? So Shakir they've traded
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  Speaker 3: for DJ Moore. Josh Palmer's on that team. Kean Coleman's
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  Speaker 3: on that team. Are we good with Shakir being their
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  Speaker 3: number one receiver? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I think so?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. He had more yards than DJ Moore. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he was. He was the guy a year now.
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  Speaker 3: He was like forty six in yards and that was
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  Speaker 3: their top receiver. So I don't expect to see him
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  Speaker 3: pretty high on your list. We'll see. Now. This one
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  Speaker 3: is one who in the world did you pick for
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  Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins? But Terry, he's not on the teams
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  Speaker 3: on the team. Hell's a free agent. I'm glad we're
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  Speaker 3: doing this exercise.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: Their receivers right now are Jalen Tolbert too too at well,
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  Speaker 3: Malik Washington, and they drafted Chris Bell, Caleb Douglas and
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Coleman Jr.
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  Speaker 5: What's happening over Well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna be at the bottom of Marshall is there.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be at the bottom.
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  Speaker 6: Anyways, they drafted Chris Bell decently high.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Tigers Terrace Marshall.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess we could go. I guess we could
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  Speaker 7: go Chris Bell. You want to just go Rookie or Washington.
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  Speaker 2: It's not gonna matter.
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  Speaker 6: There's really not ever.
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  Speaker 3: I don't go with whoever had more receiving yards out
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  Speaker 3: of Tolbert at Well in Washington. It's probably Washington. God
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  Speaker 3: traded for a first round pick right before the draft. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots A J. Brown, the Jets, Garrett Wilson. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's who I have. The Baltimore Ravens, I have, say Flowers, you.
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  Speaker 4: Should I didn't listen to the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: But did you ask the Arizona Cardinals. No, I'm going
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  Speaker 4: down the list, so we'll be quite over there. Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 3: Jamar obviously te Higgins was you know, gonna be in
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  Speaker 3: the conversation for the other thing we were talking about.
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  Speaker 3: But Jamar Cleveland Browns, did you good Jerry Judy. I
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  Speaker 3: went that's who I have. I'm in case Egins, says Jon.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't put any rookies on here, Miami, we're
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  Speaker 7: going to League Washington. Here's the leader in the clubhouse,
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  Speaker 7: went three and seventeen receiving yards.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god. What about for the Steelers? Did you
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  Speaker 3: go DK or Michael Pittman? I kept DK just because
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  Speaker 3: he's been there, makes sense. Texans, Nico Collins, the Cole
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  Speaker 3: Salc Pearce. What about Jacksonville, the Jackie w Eys BTJ,
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  Speaker 3: I still go BETJ. And I think Jacoby Maris is
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  Speaker 3: really good. I think Parker Washington's very undervalued. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna go BETJ. What he did is rookie year is
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  Speaker 3: still gonna be fresh on the memory. What are you
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  Speaker 3: getting mad at over there? Computer keeps dinging and I
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  Speaker 3: For the Tennessee Titans, you got Carneal Tate, Calvin Ridley,
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  Speaker 3: Wandell Robinson. So a couple options there. I'm assuming you
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  Speaker 3: went one Dell Robinson.
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  Speaker 6: For the Titans. Yeah, I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to put any rookies blame you Kansas
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  Speaker 3: City Chiefs. I have Rice, even though what's he gonna
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  Speaker 3: do He's currently not at practice.
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  Speaker 2: Uh say for the Raiders, we.
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  Speaker 3: Hadn't gone the Raiders yet. You're not paying attention to
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  Speaker 3: us at all. There's different.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just kept sudden because I mean he was
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  Speaker 6: the guy a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: All right. So for the Las Vegas Raiders, you have
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  Speaker 3: uh Trey Tucker. You have Jalen Naylor coming over from Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: You have Jack besh so j I went talker.
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  Speaker 7: He was there leading wide receiver returning from a year ago,
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  Speaker 7: so I gotta have him.
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  Speaker 3: What about forty Los Angeles Chargers, I'll put yeah, La
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  Speaker 3: that canna be very high lads, A great player, great player,
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  Speaker 3: but you don't think of number one Cowboys ceed lamb.
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  Speaker 6: Yep, that's what I have.
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  Speaker 3: What about for the New York Giants elite neighbors, they
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  Speaker 3: got more receivers than any team in the league. I
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  Speaker 3: think Philadelphia you want to slim reaper.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I was. I kind of agree. What with
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  Speaker 5: the elak.
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  Speaker 3: Thing, Yeah, yeah, that's that's what he's about. Far the
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  Speaker 3: talent again, yeah, for sure, they got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: When he's going to be available, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 3: but O'Dell Scary Terry for the Commanders, Chicago Bears, romadoonze Ye,
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  Speaker 3: the Detroit Lyons, Saint Brown. Who do we decide? For
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  Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers.
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  Speaker 7: I went Jaden Reid just because win healthy. He kind
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  Speaker 7: of seems to get the most targets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, Jaden Reid, uh
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  Speaker 3: Bo Melton, Savion, Williams sky Moore.
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  Speaker 6: Honestly, none of those guys can stay healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went, I went, Uh, you got jets from
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota for the Falcons. You got Drake London for Carolina,
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  Speaker 3: you got t Mac for the Saints, you got a
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  Speaker 3: Lave for Tampa Bay. Let's have a debate on that one,
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  Speaker 3: all right, Tampa Bay. You've got a Mecca Buca. You've
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  Speaker 3: got Jayalen McMillan. You've got Chris Godwin. Junior Buka is probably.
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  Speaker 8: I think so too, like he had a really good season,
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  Speaker 8: and I just don't know. Never mind, I over complicate things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I like you. I like it because Chris Growlins has
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  Speaker 3: some massive That's what I'm saying. Last years, but he
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  Speaker 3: is so good when he was healthy, for the l A.
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  Speaker 3: Rams Hookah, I might choose him over everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: For San Francisco the forty nine ers. Yeah, I was
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  Speaker 3: looking at Mike Evans, Ricky pier Saw, Christian Kirk, Mike Evans,
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  Speaker 3: did you go, Mike Evans, Mike Evans, Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Ok.
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  Speaker 3: That Seattle Seahawks, Jackson Smith and Jigba and then the
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  Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. This is where I'm sure we're going to
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  Speaker 3: get some pushback from the old lines. Marvin Harrison Junior,
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  Speaker 3: Kendrick Bourne, and Michael Wilson. It's Michael Wilson.
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  Speaker 10: I have Michael Wilson already downloaded. Michael, I can change it.
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  Speaker 10: It's Michael Wilson. He had a thousand yards last year.
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  Speaker 10: Arvin Harrison Junior. It's a good player. It's not a
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  Speaker 10: great player. Yeah, not his daddy.
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  Speaker 3: He's not not yet and he will, like his dad,
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  Speaker 3: want the best to do it. He won't get there.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not like a slight. He just one of
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  Speaker 3: the all times. There's been some flashes. But we were
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  Speaker 3: told Marvin Harrison Junior was going to be the best
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  Speaker 3: thing to hit that position since like Jerry Rice for
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  Speaker 3: like three years. Yeah, and he's been good.
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  Speaker 4: He's been okay, he hadn't been the receiver that was
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  Speaker 4: promised to the NFL, and for NFL fans certainly now
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  Speaker 4: it didn't help that he did go to Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Michael Wilson still playing pretty good. I've played
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  Speaker 3: well there, You're right PFF grades, which I'll know. I
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  Speaker 3: love Marvin Harrison Junior sixty eight Michael Wilson's seventy seven.
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  Speaker 3: So at least like we have some analytics to back
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  Speaker 3: up our claim here as well, THEFF Analytics trade McBride's
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  Speaker 3: stud eighty three. What so this is going to be
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  Speaker 3: my first time with a tier list, is it? Yep?
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  Speaker 2: We hadn't done it since I joined the.
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  Speaker 3: Show, and it feels like peak Matt Flynn too.
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  Speaker 2: We've dis missed the year of opportunities.
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  Speaker 10: Let me see this, dude, This thing has a lot
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  Speaker 10: of ads. Just ignore the bottom, all right.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So the way that we do this, and Luke,
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  Speaker 3: since you're part of the wolf pack for the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of days, we each go around the room and
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  Speaker 3: we give the guy that, without a shadow of a doubt,
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  Speaker 3: is going to be in the st here and that
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  Speaker 3: you feel the most passionate. We each get one, so
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  Speaker 3: it goes S, A, B, C, and D S being
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  Speaker 3: the best, D obviously being the worst. Now you could
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  Speaker 3: be in C and be a hell of a football player. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like that can happen. It's just as far as ranking
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  Speaker 3: the number one receivers where we have you. All Right,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be John Stockton here and I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to pass it to a laundra. Oh okay, the receiver
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  Speaker 3: that you feel it's not going to be up for debate.
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  Speaker 3: It's not up for a question that. Just go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and put him in the star.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think the obvious answers.
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  Speaker 3: JSN, Right, whatever you want, this is your this is yours,
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  Speaker 3: your first one.
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  Speaker 2: That we can move.
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  Speaker 8: Let me over complicate things again because I need to
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  Speaker 8: like set some parameters.
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  Speaker 5: Are we talking like from the past season of like
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  Speaker 5: their entire career.
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  Speaker 3: June fourth, Yeah, as we head into this next I'm
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  Speaker 3: go JSN, then absolutely, Okay, we're gonna put them up there.
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  Speaker 8: And then look, I feel like nobody's going to debate
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  Speaker 8: me on that one. I'm not that looks like he
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  Speaker 8: wants to.
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  Speaker 3: It's just because he hates all right, I am going
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  Speaker 3: to be Alan Everson and I'm gonna pass it to
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  Speaker 3: Luke the one guy you're like, just go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: put him in the st here. I'mal around sat Brown? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: oh that could that's a good one. That's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: good debate. All right, let's go around the room first.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean, I don't know you debating before
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  Speaker 3: we start debating. Oh yeah, no, that's what we're doing. Okay, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you're up. Go ahead, I'm up. Yeah, whoever you want
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  Speaker 3: to put in the st here? Pookah, Yeah, I was gonna.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna do pooka. I should have been the
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  Speaker 3: first on that.
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  Speaker 10: Any I don't care whose quarterback is justin Jefferson.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't care, uh that he's got a really
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  Speaker 3: good receiver next to him. Go ahead and put Jamar
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  Speaker 3: up there too. Where is jar others?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 3: So so far st here Jackson Smith and Jigbo, Saint Brown, Kua, Jefferson, Chase.
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  Speaker 3: Now five up there. It might only be four, It
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  Speaker 3: might only be like, yeah, this is an interesting list.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of debate is gonna go on during Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this was everybody's So we got five five people here
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  Speaker 3: in the Foxholm, h this was everybody's top pick, and
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  Speaker 3: I feel like everybody got their top pick thrown in there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my top pick would have been Pooka okay, but
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  Speaker 3: Jamar would have been my second pick. So yeah, it
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  Speaker 3: was Puoka Jamar for me. For sure.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be an interesting because now we get the
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  Speaker 4: once we start the debate, it's you're talking about does
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  Speaker 4: one person deserve to be in the same breath category?
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  Speaker 3: There's one right now that I already want to move.
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  Speaker 3: Ye oh uh in the chat, you'll never be as
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  Speaker 3: good as your father dot dot dot. That's not a slight.
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  Speaker 3: His dad's Marvarn Harrison.
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  Speaker 6: I mean he's a top fIF team receiver of all time.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he's incredible. Marvin Harrison Junior is good. He's not
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  Speaker 3: his dad, and there's like a thousand receivers that aren't
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  Speaker 3: his dad. But it gets you. It's pretty funny. But
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  Speaker 3: there's only one receiver that's his son.
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  Speaker 2: There. You go.
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  Speaker 3: Easy the top five real quick before we go to break,
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  Speaker 3: and then the debate really starts during the break. You
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  Speaker 3: got Smith and Jigba, Saint Brown, Nikoua, Jefferson and Chase.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, that's who's up there, so we'll have that
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  Speaker 3: great debate starting during this break. We'll continue to talk
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  Speaker 11: so we are having our receiver number one, so you
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  Speaker 11: have to be the number one receiver on your team.
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  Speaker 11: And this is tough because, like I said, like there's teams,
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  Speaker 11: you know, like the Dallas Cowboys they have two number ones,
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  Speaker 11: the undoubted number one.
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  Speaker 3: But da Fontaine's played really really well last year.
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  Speaker 2: So had the best receiving touchdowns in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he like, well, this isn't just a receiver
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  Speaker 3: tier list because they would be on it. We'll go
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: back and talk about some of those one B options.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Let's start to maybe place some people up here just
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: to kind of move this along, all right, lab mcconkeye. See, yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: the the middle. Okay, uh, let's go ahead and put
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins option in d Yeah, let's go.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Can we go ahead and drop Trey Tucker down there too?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Just just Tucker? Yeh see you Trey later, dude.
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: All right, honestly, probably sad probably.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Tucker's right here? Wait who put up there instead? Well, no,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: you're you're right because that was Malik Washington? So oh
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: who is that? Oh? Sorry I grabbed It's hard to
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: see these see's what got him? All right, let's have
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: the let's go ahead, and we.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Talked about the Lions.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Jamison Williams their number two, oh nearly twelve hundred yards.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: George Pickens was third in the NFL over fourteen hundred yards.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I know. But Ceedee Lamb only played fourteen games and
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: head over a thousands. So all right, let's go alright,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: let's go to the next highest tier. Let's know the
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: guys that are kind of on the bubble. All right, now,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: let's go around the room on the bubble of A
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: or s. We're going to Cede Lamb. M Yeah, I mean,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: that's no doubt about it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: Another one, CD and AJ were like my top two
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: for the A tier.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Scary if Malik was If Malik was healthy, I'm throwing
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: him in this.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Tear fully healthy.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Nico Collins is damn good too.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fully healthy. I'm going the league neighbors in in
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: the A fully healthy, but we're not. But he's not healthy,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: right I know? But still like now, so how do
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: we feel about Tetro. I think he's got to do
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: it a little bit longer. I think he's on the
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: A B bubble.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I want to put him in B only because, like
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Taylor says, done.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Ye'll put t McMillan, who I think is a tier.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: But I agree with you as well, let's see it
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: one more year in the B tier. M h.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I think he will be if we want to start,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: if we want to start a debate a little bit.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I'm putting a Minra in the eight tier. Me too.
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: Anra man is is sneaky.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: He's he's so good. He's seen the yards last year.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: He said dig touchdowns three years in eight okay, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: he is. And he's good in the running game and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: he get in the play action game. I'm looking at
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: this list and saying, if we had to whittle it down, Yeah,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying we do have to whittle it down. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: if there's a guy that doesn't belong in the same.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Category as the guys he's next to, it would be him,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: not saying not taking greatness away from him. If you
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: are taking if you were drafting a wide receiver out
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: of that room in the S tier, who you taking last?
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: Right, I'm between two guys up there last, and he's
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: one of them. Between JSN and JASN would be the
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: other only because again he's been there three years.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Now, I get it. He exploded this year.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: He was awesome year before, eleven hundred yards and six touchdowns.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: But like the other two, just don't I mean, the
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: other guys up, they've done it just a little bit longer,
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: just just a little bit. I mean, it's not it's
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: not Jayson's fault. Jackson, he's great. Last year, we could
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: and we can move down like he didn't have. James
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: and Williams said.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Now let's let's have the conversation because we are all
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: l s U Tigers here.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is the answer Jefferson right now. No, he's the second.
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: No, he by far had the worst quarterback up there,
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: didn't I mean he didn't he had Jordan Addison next
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: to him.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: The quarterbacks that he had like nine, yeah, nine cousins.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I saw a picture of nine.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Max bro stop.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: We have a fun no, because I hear you raw
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: numbers wise, he's the easiest to take off of that list.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: It's just I feel like we're punishing him for his
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: quarterback play.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: At that point.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's a team sport, I know, But I mean,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: who's eleven he's got he's got small boy and.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Nine small boy, he's got a little boo boo.
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: And I don't want to but we could. We could
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: move down almenrof we got to move down one.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's debate during the breaks too cracking.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Let's have one more, Yeah, let's have one more debate
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: before we take a break.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: This debate to me up here, this here is kind
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: of like, let's go ten years ago the top quarterbacks
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: where Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: then you also had Roethlisberger in there. Yeah right, it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: kind of the same, like.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: You had guys argument Roethlisberger, Eli Phillip. Yeah, but like, really, good.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Do they believe that do they belong on the top
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: of Mount Everest with those other guys.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Okay, I'm with you and I are
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: in lockstep with this.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not a knock at anybody. But you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: we take these tier lists because this is the first
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: time for me. This is sign very sacred. It's a
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: sacred thing.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Where we putting.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: We're putting this guy who we got, Mike Evans. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: want to put him in the A because his career.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Can we put him in B?
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: I just because hurt a lot last year, productive when
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: he was on the field, though new system, older but
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: done so much in the league. Like, I think b's
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: an appropriate spot for him, not too high, not disrespectful.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a maybe.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, give us your A thoughts.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this list and and I'm thinking about
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: my argument from earlier. None of them.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's belonging the same category as
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: a manra off.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: We moved a manral down by A might be Drake London.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was so. Drake London just got paid. He
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: like set the market.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so move Drake London to the A.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And again we hadn't hit finished on the science yet.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get to a lot. It's gonna
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: be fun.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I know that's gonna be the next segment. It's called
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a tease. I'm gonna be like Joe want Joe, and
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I am going to say, for for my a, I
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: want to go Nico Collins. That would also have been Maya. Yeah,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: it's a good ad. Fifteen games, twelve hundred yards last year,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: sixteen yards per catch, and.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Don't punish him for his high school quarterback.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Seventh in PFF grade. All right, we'll take a break.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll add some different names to different tiers, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: then we're gonna have the Chris Alave conversation. Where does
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: he belong? S? Tier A, Tier B, Tier C, tiered
• 26:38
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  Speaker 3: so we've moved a couple of names yet a little
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: work here in the break. We added guys like Mike
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Evans and Malik Neighbors to the beat here. Now, if
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors is fully healthy, he is a all day,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: every day but there's some concern with multiple knee surgeries.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: There was a video of him in a celebrities softball
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: game where he hit one and he was hitching his
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: get up. Yeah, so a lot of people wondering what
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: his knee is going to be like after surgery. That's
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the only reason that the league neighbors is not higher
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: on this list. But went fully heal all day for sure.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: He's in a all.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Day long where you'll end up putting Terry.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: We haven't put Kerry Terry up there yet.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: This one was an interesting to me, Michael Wilson for
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the Cardinals because if we would have thrown tight ends
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: in this.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Trey McBride b and the Bee. Yeah, maybe he was.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was. He had the sixth most receiving yards
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: in the NFL last year as a tight end. He
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: was their best receiver and it wasn't really close.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: So he Yeah, Trey McBride might be a wide receiver
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: at tight end.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: All right, So we've moved to names like Roman Duneesday,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Jerry Judy. They go into the D tier, sorry D tier,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: the C tier. We got Wandell Robinson, Alec Pearce, Garrett Wilson,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: BT j. Michael Wilson like BUCA. All right, so the
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: B tier, Yeah, And I think that brings us to
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: chrys Olave, doesn't I think it does. Now we don't
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: have to drag, we don't have to make anything permanent here.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, And we are talking number one receivers for each team, right,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: We're not talking are you a good receiver?
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Because all these receivers are Everyone of them are good.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: They're the number one receiver for their their football team.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: And we talked about there's a lot of teams that have,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: like the Packers, like their number one receivers on there
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: our D list, but they probably have they have four
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: receivers that are in that same skill set that you'd
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: probably put on a D list, Like they don't have
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: a number one by design, they have four number twos.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Then you have some like the Raiders that that like
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and the and the Bubble of Bills that it's by accident.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They just did it to themselves. They just don't have
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a good receiver.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Chris Lave has been our big debate since the towards
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: the seasons we've the conversation about him, you know, spurned
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: us to do this list, because where do you put him.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: We talked about it for what three segments yesterday about
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Kris Olave's contract and how do we see him, where
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: does he fit? And because on the eyeball test, he
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: doesn't look like that dominant number one receiver that we're
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: used to seeing our teams like this s tier that
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: we got gone. Those guys that, without a shadow of
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: a doubt, is who their number one is, who is
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: getting the ball. Defensive coordinators lose sleep over those guys
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: at night. They have to change their whole game plan.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: They have to change their whole mindset based on one
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: guy that plays wide receiver. What we talked about yesterday
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: was I don't think that defensive coordinators change their game
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: plan for Chris Lave. So where does that put him
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: in the list of number one wide receivers? And it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: an interesting it's an extremely interesting conversation in a debate,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: because you could make an argument for three of these
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: columns for me, yeah, and I would all right, I mean,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I can, I can see your point here.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: So for me, I'll champion for Chrislave a little bit here.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: In receptions, he was seventh in the NFL in yards,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: He was eighth in the NFL and touchdowns. He was
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: eighth in the NFL. So right now in the ES tier,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: we've got five players. In the eight tier, we've got
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: four players, all right, so that's nine. He's seventh, eighth,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and eighth in the categories that we look at as
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: far as production. Sure, so he's more he's more like
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: in the middle of A and B than I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: we're thinking.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: From a stats perpective, like he has.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Also like and that was thinking about the eleven personnel
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: mates he had out there with him when they traded
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Rashid Shahi. He was lonely on the dance floor out there,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: like that's it. And he played with two quarterbacks like
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: that's another portion of it that I give him a
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: lot of credit to be that reductive.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: From a staff's perspective, Chris Olave had everything you want
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: your leading receiver to have. It's just what on this
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: tier list with the other receivers on here, what's your air?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Does he breathe?
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: He was great last year. He's a physical six or
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: four receiver that's done it one year. And I think
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Ted McMillan's great, But I can put I can put
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: a love a B next to Ted McMillan.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's in B for sure. If you wanted, could
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: you put him in a that That's where I'm at
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: with him, and I know and I know the arguments,
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: like we was he really like it? We're gonna pa him
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: the same category of CD Lamb And that's the only
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: that's the only person up there that's keeping me from
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: saying that, yep, because can he be in the same
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: tier as CD Lamb? And that's where it's like, boy
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Brown still got it. I'm not as high on A. J.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Brown on this list. He graded out as the fifteenth
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: best receiver in the NFL last year yards and they
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: missed some games too, so always kind of changes the
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: math a little bit. Where was AJ Brown as far
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: as yards?
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Somehow managed a thousand? It seems like they did.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Seemed like every week on the ESPN they're like they're
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: not throwing AJ Brown the ball and you look up,
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: You're like, dode have a thousand yards?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Did he a thousand and three? Ala chrysal Lava to
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: me it was nineteenth in yards? AJ Brown? Chris Lave
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: to me, same as Alec Pierce. Because we're having a decide,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: like I agree with that he's like a tweiner in
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: between the A and the B. But I'm gonna put him.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: In the B.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I'm good with that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And I don't and I.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Get the stats thing. Yeah. My question is.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Again it goes back to what do defensive coordinators, how
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: do they view their game plan when in preparation for
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the same in preparation for that receiver. And I don't
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: think they view him the same as Ceedee Lamb or
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Drake Lendon.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I hear those two names, the AJ Brown. Now you've
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: got I could move a J Brown. AJ Brown, Okay,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: called seventy eight passes last year on one hundred and
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: twenty one targets. That's not a great ratio there. He
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: also he had one thousand and three yards only twelve
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: point nine yards per catch too.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could move him to the B. I think
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I could too.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: It's funny we complained about Jefferson dipping a little bit
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: because of bad QB play. He had the same yards
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: per cutch today J Brown did so. Like, let's yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: be a little critical of AJ Brown.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So are we all good with moving AJ Brown.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Out of the ones that are up there?
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: I still think I squinting. I like AJ Brown.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I think he's No, he's really if you're in the
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: batire year with t Mac, Mike Evans and elite neighbors, Yeah,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I would keep him at Ay just because I don't
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: know why move, Why would you keep of your choice
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: of these guys? AJ Brown is gonna be your last choice?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: For me?
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: No, Drake London's probably my last choice. Drake London's really
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: really good, Like he's really good.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: I have opinions, but y'all know way more than I.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Do, So I'm just like, really, no, I mean, I'm.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Going to defer to y'all on this one just because, like.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I just.
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: I get what y'all are saying. With the stats and
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: the numbers and everything. I can't get behind a lave
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: b Like I just I want him on the sea. Oh,
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: Like I just I don't have like a better argument
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: than y'all do, but because I get it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: The number in his top seven, but.
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: He's not We've said it, we said it all last season.
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: He is not a wide receiver one like I know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: like technically he is, but y'all have like you've said
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: it yourself, you've said it, We've all said it, Like
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: he does not scream wide receiver won anybody. He doesn't
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: pass like that eye test. And I agree with you
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: that I don't think that defensive coordinators are out here like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: oh we're facing Chris O Lovey this week.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Let's come up with a name plan for it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: And I agree with everything he had study saying, that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: why I think he's That's why I think he's be.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I said, I said, there's three rows here that I
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: could hear an argument for it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, A, B and C.
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't hear an argument.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Forre the stats. He had the stats, but like you mentioned,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: all the time, he had Uber drivers.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: So who else they throwing it to? Okay, so that's
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a give and take. And it's also like every and
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  Speaker 3: he's still every coverage is going to be cloud in
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  Speaker 3: his way, but they didn't. You don't think so, So
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  Speaker 3: so are they doing Kevin Junior over this?
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  Speaker 2: They're just running.
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  Speaker 8: It's also like a while there where like he just
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  Speaker 8: wasn't making the contested catches.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, he didn't like Spencer Ratler.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, that's fair, Matt, Like if you want to
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  Speaker 7: play Devil's advocate and bring up another argument, then like
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  Speaker 7: Jay just said, It's like, yeah, he was playing against nobody.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 7: Put them all those numbers, two different quarterbacks when everybody
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  Speaker 7: knew he was getting the ball. He didn't look like
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  Speaker 7: the physical presence of like a argument.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone knew he was getting the ball, but they and
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  Speaker 4: they didn't just.
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  Speaker 6: They should have you put up numbers, then maybe they
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: should have.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I think he's early for the beat.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he is great for defensive coordinators.
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  Speaker 4: Okay with giving up the numbers because they were still
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  Speaker 4: winning the games.
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  Speaker 3: One five games, I mean down the stretch though, man,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he yeah, Dad, good luck, you can catch
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  Speaker 3: all those yards we still won. I'm taking Chris o
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  Speaker 3: Lave over Lad McConkie one Delle Robinson.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not taking him over Alec Peers.
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  Speaker 7: I am ale here was great again. I need him
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  Speaker 7: to do it one more year. I'm just with everybody.
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  Speaker 3: We got to make decisions, folks, Alec Pearce, anybody like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: don't look at your computers. Just how many yards per
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: catch did Alec Pierce have? He had the same amount
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: of yards as a J. Brad.
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  Speaker 6: I think it was around seventeen yards per catch.
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  Speaker 3: He was seventeen. Luke they guess, okay, thirteen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, somewhere in that range, like all say fifteen.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, matteteen twenty one point three?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think did he lead the league in yards
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: per kit?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Was even close? Like nobody was in the realm of him.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: The only one that was even remotely close was Jamison
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Williams at seventeen and some change twenty one point three.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: This man had one thousand yards on forty seven catches.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: What one thousand yards on forty seven catches? To give
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you like kind of a comp like Buka had nine
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty eight on sixty three catches and that
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: was a good Like that's fourteen point nine, but just
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: kind of give you an idea of the numbers. Uh,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs he had ten more yards in Alec Pearce
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: ten more yards. He had eighty five catches. Ale Piers
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: had forty seven.
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  Speaker 7: This is not fair to Alex Pearce because he did
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: what he did.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I just look at it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: Is that sustainable because that's that's a lot of that's
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: a lot of yards per catch and it was awesome.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: You'd like to see more receptions?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, can he do that? Can he be that I
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: need a guy.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: I need a guy to go out there like a
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: pepper with targets and maybe ten to twelve catches a game.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Is this wide receiver one can't? Can't he do it?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I will say in change Steichen's offense like that is
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: having a big play receiver like that go routes down
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: the silence a big part of his offense.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: It is, so I think.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I'd put him be.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I heard I could hear the argument for see.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think I can't. I can't hear. I can
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: listen to the stats portion of it. But I agree,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: there's too many things that we've talked about. And B
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: feels like I also Flowers and Be. Yeah, I think
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: they're the same person, same person receiver. Maybe the flowers
• 40:56
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves, gets off the
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  Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back in oh TB here live from
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: the Raisin Kine studio. So we're funny enough. The debate
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: we were having was Alec Pearce during the break and Taylor,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: what you said, a bunch here for different people. He
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: wants to see it one more year. A Laundra's point
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: was killer and fancy football, and you're exactly right, no
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  Speaker 3: doubt about it. And so the forty seven catches for
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: over one thousand yards is remarkable, Yeah, remarkable, like twenty
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: one point three yards per catch. Okay, So to Taylor's point,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna push back on it because in
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four he had thirty seven catches for eight
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: hundred and twenty four yards, which was twenty two point
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: three yards per catch.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: That's insane.
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: Seven touchdowns maybe maybe the maybe the yards per catches.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: And he had he had five, fourteen and five ninety
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: three in the years before that. Yeah, so there was
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: a slow build up to where he's at. Yeah, he's
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: done more than any of us have given him credit for.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Alec Pierce, I apologize. I thought I was familiar with
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: your game. I am not, sir. Twenty two point three
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: and twenty one point three and back to back years
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: in the National Football League per catch.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: That's why you got paid.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: He paid, Yeah, I got pay Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: There's a chance we look at him next year and
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: he's an eightier.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, if he continues on the trajectory's on that trajectory.
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I think we have peers there, Anthony Richardson and Danel Jones.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: I mean Daniel Jones DJ just played.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Well at the beginning of last year. Look, move them up.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: If we're putting a lot of ab I.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Think there, But we do. I think we do right.
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  Speaker 7: The build up is awesome, going from five hundred to
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: eight h one thousands.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Great. I don't know why you're hating on Ali Pearce, sir,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: but move that man up, movie maup.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: He is so anti Alix Pierce.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Twenty two and twenty one yards per catch and back
• 44:28
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  Speaker 4: He's white Taylor. Yeah, you know what's so explosive about
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