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Dating App-Surdly Wrong: RHOP Recap with Claudia, Dustin & Blue · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Raindrops, the time has come for Claudia Jordan,
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  Speaker 1: Blue Toulouse, and Dustin Ross and I to talk about
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  Speaker 1: episode two, season 11 of The Real Housewives of Potomac.
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  Speaker 1: This episode was dedicated to, speaking of the Oprah Winfrey Network,
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  Speaker 1: to Oprah Winfrey's iconic character in The Color Purple. Miss Sophia,
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  Speaker 1: played by Karen Huger. Before we get into the actual event,
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  Speaker 1: I want to start off talking about Tia, who continued
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  Speaker 1: from last week to this week talking about the state
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  Speaker 1: of her marriage to Rob. She has admitted that Rob
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  Speaker 1: has been on a dating app since the first year
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  Speaker 1: they got married, okay? She felt that, I'm sorry, he
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  Speaker 1: said to her that he was lonely and was looking
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  Speaker 1: for attention. Tia said in her confessionals that she felt
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  Speaker 1: like he wanted to humiliate her and he should have
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  Speaker 1: done what most people do who cheat, do it privately. Blue,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Tia, Rob, and that whole situation?
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I find interesting. It's the fact
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  Speaker 2: that we all have a story about somebody messing up
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  Speaker 2: our birthday, don't we? We all have a story that
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  Speaker 2: we had a birthday where a partner or a best
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  Speaker 2: friend or a parent... Well, maybe not Dustin because he's
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  Speaker 2: lived a charmed life. But most people, maybe not Dustin.
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  Speaker 2: He's always like, who said that?
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  Speaker 3: They love me. Except for Dustin.
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  Speaker 4: Celebrating birthday. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Except for Dustin, most people have a story about how
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  Speaker 2: a birthday or a wedding, in some way you were
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  Speaker 2: surprised that your closest friend or your homegirl or your
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  Speaker 2: favorite cousin acted a fool. There's been social research that
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  Speaker 2: people who secretly resent you intentionally do it during times
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  Speaker 2: when you're supposed to be celebrated. That's the first thing
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  Speaker 2: I thought of when I thought, how funny that this
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  Speaker 2: is coming out after her first season on Housewives. I
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  Speaker 2: think what really bothered me isn't just the emotional cheating
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  Speaker 2: that maybe, or maybe not, we haven't gotten into it yet,
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  Speaker 2: it might have been physical cheating, it's his desire to
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  Speaker 2: embarrass her that I do believe is present. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that a lot of times, and Carlos can speak
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  Speaker 2: to this, and even Claudia can speak to this because
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  Speaker 2: you've been on these shows, a lot of times the
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  Speaker 2: partner who seems cool and quiet will find little ways
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  Speaker 2: to pinch you or get back at you because they
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  Speaker 2: resent you, but they don't want to say it out loud,
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  Speaker 2: so instead they embarrass you in the very place where
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  Speaker 2: they think that you're running circles around them, which is
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  Speaker 2: in the public eye. And so I think she has
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  Speaker 2: two problems on her hands, not just a man who
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  Speaker 2: is cheating, but also a man who resents her. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the second problem is actually more dangerous than
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  Speaker 2: the first. Resentment is like cancer. It's like gum in
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  Speaker 2: your hair. Anything that resentment touches in a relationship, you
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  Speaker 2: have to cut it out. Why would you use.
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  Speaker 4: Gum in your hair? Talking about Rob.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, because he ain't got none, my bad.
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  Speaker 4: Why would you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the hairline started where his integrity did. And it's fading.
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  Speaker 2: Like his integrity. So I really do feel bad for
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  Speaker 2: her because even Giselle said, at least Pastor Bryant did it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the back pew. Like, you know, at
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  Speaker 2: least it was private. And Giselle, you ain't with that
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  Speaker 2: because it's true. A man who wants to cheat will cheat,
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  Speaker 2: but a man who wants to embarrass you is ten
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  Speaker 2: times worse. Maybe it's somebody else's turn because Carlson said
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  Speaker 2: it's turning red.
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  Speaker 3: Did I answer the question, Carlos? I'll go next because
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  Speaker 3: obviously Huntsville has to be.
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  Speaker 3: I got to say my responses. Okay, here's the deal.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you in the sense of, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to go on record saying that, listen, I feel
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  Speaker 1: so much compassion for Tia based on what she's going through.
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  Speaker 1: No woman deserves that. No one deserves that if the
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  Speaker 1: roles were reversed. When she, before I get into that,
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  Speaker 1: last week I said on this show that I don't
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  Speaker 1: buy that this was Tia's first time knowing that her
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  Speaker 1: husband has been on dating apps. It was something about
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  Speaker 1: the way Tia reacted to the information that my spidey
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  Speaker 1: senses said does not miss things first time hearing about
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  Speaker 1: her man on dating apps. It was confirmed in this
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  Speaker 1: episode that I was right.
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  Speaker 3: She said that.
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  Speaker 1: The first year they got married or something along those lines,
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  Speaker 1: he was on a dating app then, okay? This is
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  Speaker 1: what I will say. Based on what's going on with
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  Speaker 1: Tia and Rob is unfortunate.
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  Speaker 3: The issue is this.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to connect with Tia so far.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you why. Tia did a
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  Speaker 1: huge disservice for herself as a second season housewife by
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  Speaker 1: not allowing the audience that she wants to buy into
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  Speaker 1: her and giving us the conversation with Rob.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that as a viewer, I have to be
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  Speaker 3: subjected to you playing along with finding out for the
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  Speaker 3: first time on camera that this was something your husband did.
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  Speaker 1: Only for you in your confessional to tell us that, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this did happen the first.
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  Speaker 3: Time, you know, when we were getting married, got married rather.
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  Speaker 1: To add insult to injury, I'm on episode two and
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen a conversation between you and Rob.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Rob walks into the house. You stare at him. He
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  Speaker 1: gets the kids and you leave. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: to have the kids be a part of the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: but Tia raises my concern as a reality vet and
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  Speaker 1: producer in this business in terms of when women sign
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  Speaker 1: on to do, to be a reality star and they
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do their job.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Reality television is the only occupation in the world where
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  Speaker 1: you can go to work and tell your boss, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about that. That's too real. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: doing it. No one knocked on your door. You knocked
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  Speaker 3: on ours.
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  Speaker 1: And you are on a show that Ashley Darby and
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  Speaker 1: Michael Darby raised you to be on. Juan Dixon and
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  Speaker 1: Robin Dixon. Ray and Karen Huger. I'm talking about couples
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  Speaker 1: who have very intense conversation. Listen, everyone knows I'm the
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  Speaker 1: main one that gives Ashley a hard time because I
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  Speaker 1: see so much potential in her. But what I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to do is negate the fact that when Michael
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  Speaker 1: Darby was accused of sticking his thing in every hole
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  Speaker 1: in the world, Ashley talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: She dealt with it. She confronted it.
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  Speaker 1: Candace Dillard Bassett would cut off Chris Bassett in a
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  Speaker 1: moving vehicle.
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  Speaker 6: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Like, so....
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. Dustin, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And then bring out her cry angle at the end.
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  Speaker 3: Bring out her cry angle at the end.
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  Speaker 1: So when it comes to Tia, it's hard for me
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  Speaker 1: to connect with her because it is your job as
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  Speaker 1: a reality star to give the reality of your life.
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  Speaker 1: I am so tired of people wanting to be on
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  Speaker 1: a reality show and they want to do the bare
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  Speaker 1: minimum and you expect me to go up for you.
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  Speaker 3: I feel bad for what you're going through, sis. It's awful.
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  Speaker 3: It's terrible.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're not going to give us a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with you and your husband one-on-one, not the kids, it
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  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with children. The kids don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be there because I do think kids are off limits, right?
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  Speaker 1: But as somebody who signed on a show with kids,
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  Speaker 1: your kids are watching the scene that air last night.
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  Speaker 3: So they know what's going on here. And for me, it.
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  Speaker 1: Really concerns me that we are starting a trend Where
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  Speaker 1: these women want to be a real housewife for their businesses,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't want you to tell their personal business.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's why it's hard for me to connect with Tia.
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  Speaker 5: At least Mia and G got in that kitchen and
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  Speaker 5: gave us that bomb ass scene at the end of
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  Speaker 5: the season finale or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: We need a moment like that.
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  Speaker 5: I agree 100%. We need a moment like that to
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  Speaker 5: connect with Tia because the combination of her being vague,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying? And protecting certain conversations. The
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  Speaker 5: combination of that with her kissing Giselle's ass the way
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  Speaker 5: she's kissing it, got her nose all in Giselle's ass crack,
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  Speaker 5: allowing her to spread rumors about her marriage. Shout out
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  Speaker 5: to the producers for running that montage of Giselle doing
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  Speaker 5: just that season after season after season. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: why Tia is so gleeful to, um, to be in
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  Speaker 5: a coupling, that's the word of the night, like that
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  Speaker 5: with Gisele.
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  Speaker 4: Especially when Stacey.
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  Speaker 5: And Wendy have already been the realest ones with her
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  Speaker 5: so far this season. She could have took that and
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  Speaker 5: rolled with it. She missed an opportunity to show herself
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  Speaker 5: as a fit cast member by acquiescing to Gisele the
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  Speaker 5: way that she did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And before I get to you, Claudia, for those saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: what about Giselle? When Giselle has a man on the show,
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  Speaker 3: then we could talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: But y'all just proved my point. It's the reason why
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  Speaker 1: these girls get away with it. And then y'all get
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  Speaker 1: mad when they have fake boyfriends, rented boyfriends, has been
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  Speaker 1: reality star having boyfriends, fake relationships, fake houses.
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  Speaker 3: They have a house the first season. The next season,
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  Speaker 3: they moved. Y'all are the reason. Because some of y'all focus.
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  Speaker 3: But let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: Raise your hand if you've done 20 years of this.
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  Speaker 3: So, y'all... Man, we can't just trade friends.
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  Speaker 2: Wait.
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  Speaker 3: Not y'all, not y'all, but the comments. But this is
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  Speaker 3: the thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is the reason why y'all favorite show gets canceled,
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  Speaker 1: Love Me Hip Hop, Ask My Wives, because y'all don't
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  Speaker 1: even want to see the reality of people. I said
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  Speaker 1: the facts about what Tia did, and y'all response is,
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  Speaker 1: what about Giselle?
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  Speaker 3: Does Giselle have a boyfriend? Is Giselle.
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  Speaker 1: On the show with a man that has a cheating problem.
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  Speaker 1: She told y'all about Jamal Bryant. Y'all so focused on
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  Speaker 1: calling her neck. Let's get into the weeds of the business.
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  Speaker 1: But y'all are the reason why social media has killed
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  Speaker 1: the reality star. And then y'all get mad when people
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  Speaker 1: like Alex Earl and Kim Kardashian get all the money
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  Speaker 1: because they give everything to the show. But I'm never
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  Speaker 1: going to give mediocrity any sort of love. And I'm
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: never going to apologize for it. If you want mediocrity, then...
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Start something else. How about go on my online course,
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  Speaker 1: how to start monetizing?
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  Speaker 3: The QR code is there.
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  Speaker 2: He cussed everybody out and then did an ad. I
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  Speaker 2: love it here.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't nothing.
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  Speaker 2: You want to learn how to be something?
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  Speaker 3: Go over here. Join my YouTube course.
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  Speaker 6: Damn, I forgot what the question was.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so let's get into.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he do. And I just....
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  Speaker 6: I really, like last season, we were like, oh, they're
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  Speaker 6: so cute. But now we see it was all BS.
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  Speaker 6: And Tia, we like you, Tia, but you really tried it.
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  Speaker 6: Because last week, I believe the conversation was there wasn't
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  Speaker 6: even dating apps around before. Like, when did he get on?
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  Speaker 6: Or did we say that?
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  Speaker 2: She did say that.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't exist.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: Claudia.
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  Speaker 2: Claudia.
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  Speaker 3: No, but what about what Giselle did? Let's talk about Giselle.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about Ashley. I don't want to hear your facts, Claudia.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you don't hear these facts.
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  Speaker 2: I totally forgot that.
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  Speaker 6: As a former journalist, we have to go to the facts. Now,
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  Speaker 6: the facts are that just seven whole nights ago, there
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  Speaker 6: was a conversation about that dating apps didn't even exist.
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  Speaker 6: So you sat there and lied because not only were
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  Speaker 6: they around, you already had caught your man, your husband
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  Speaker 6: of one year while you were pregnant on them. That
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  Speaker 6: would have been the time to say, you know what, ladies,
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  Speaker 6: sensitive spot. I caught his ass on those apps before.
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  Speaker 6: Let me go ahead and go check him right now.
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  Speaker 6: And she should have been on camera on the spot.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you said, I thought you caught his spot.
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  Speaker 2: Huh?
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  Speaker 6: You said what?
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  Speaker 4: Never mind, nothing. Because if you didn't say it, never mind.
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  Speaker 2: They're still stuck in the hairline, Claudia. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I didn't. So, okay. So I was watching
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  Speaker 6: it today. I'm one of my friends over here. And
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  Speaker 6: I was like, kind of like warming up some crab
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  Speaker 6: legs and stuff. So I was half watching. And I
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  Speaker 6: saw the hair. It was like a Caesar faded top,
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  Speaker 6: but then combed forward with bangs. I, I was very
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  Speaker 6: much thrown off. That's someone that's maybe going through a
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  Speaker 6: little midlife crisis. He don't want attention. Why you want
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  Speaker 6: a dating app when you have a wife on one
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  Speaker 6: of the most popular TV shows.
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  Speaker 2: In the world?
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  Speaker 4: A beautiful wife, mind I add.
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  Speaker 6: Yes. And I feel like cheating is always bad, right?
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  Speaker 6: But when your person is famous or on a television show,
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  Speaker 6: it adds an extra level of humiliation because they don't
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  Speaker 6: have the convenience. They don't have the luxury of being
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  Speaker 6: embarrassed or suffering in silence. They're going to have to
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  Speaker 6: be talked about by all of us, everybody on YouTube.
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  Speaker 6: And it's going to be fodder for the show. And
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  Speaker 6: it's like, it's times 10. It's times 10. And saying
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  Speaker 6: because you are lonely is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Especially when you got four kids.
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  Speaker 5: How the fuck you lonely? You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: Y'all got four motherfucking kids. How are you lonely? It's
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  Speaker 5: always something to do in that damn house. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: not buying it personally. I don't believe he was lonely.
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  Speaker 5: I think he just freaked out and wanted to be
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  Speaker 5: on the apps, getting a thrill from doing something that
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  Speaker 5: he had no business doing.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what it was.
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  Speaker 5: And I think he was very well aware of the
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  Speaker 5: fact that his wife was on this television show. This
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  Speaker 5: housewife shit is something that she's probably been wanting to
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  Speaker 5: do for a very long time. They probably talked about
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  Speaker 5: would they do it or wouldn't they do it. So
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  Speaker 5: he understands that. The things that come into play when
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  Speaker 5: you're on a reality show like that. And he still
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  Speaker 5: got on a fucking app on display for everybody. That
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  Speaker 5: represents a very brazen, bold attempt at cheating. And it
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  Speaker 5: reflects an intention to embarrass her to me. He wanted
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  Speaker 5: to embarrass her in that way. So all this shrouding
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  Speaker 5: the conversation, I'm with Carlos on that. sit down with
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  Speaker 5: him on camera and make it make sense for everybody,
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  Speaker 5: including your goddamn self. Because even when she talks about
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  Speaker 5: this now in her press interviews that she just finished
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  Speaker 5: doing while she was talking shit about Stacey in every interview,
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  Speaker 5: she sure wasn't speaking as if she's made any real
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  Speaker 5: decisions when it comes to their relationship.
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  Speaker 4: She wasn't acting like she was mad at him for it.
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  Speaker 3: Not to cut you off, but I want to add
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  Speaker 3: to your point. And you're right. And when she said,
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  Speaker 3: she said.
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  Speaker 1: So cavalier, I mean, I'm not going to leave my
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  Speaker 1: marriage because he's on dating apps.
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  Speaker 4: Then, okay, that's it. What are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: I have a theory about.
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  Speaker 2: Why she's doing that, though. I do have a theory
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, real quick, I want to correct. So she said
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  Speaker 6: there wasn't social media around back 20 years ago. So
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  Speaker 6: she knows the pictures on the dating apps were real,
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  Speaker 6: not just taken from an Instagram because there wasn't Instagram
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  Speaker 6: 20 years ago, I guess, right? Someone's calling that out.
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  Speaker 6: I just want to... But yeah, Black Planet was around,
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  Speaker 6: all those dating apps.
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  Speaker 2: Mi Gente was around. Like, what are y'all saying?
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  Speaker 6: Backpage.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's stop with the names before y'all go too
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  Speaker 3: far with it.
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  Speaker 2: No, I have a theory about why she's being cavalier, though.
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  Speaker 2: As a Caribbean woman, it's normal in our culture that
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  Speaker 2: we got an auntie and uncle who've been divorced and
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  Speaker 2: in motion for 20 years, but technically are still married.
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  Speaker 4: Got it. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So I think to Dustin's two points about her being
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  Speaker 2: cavalier and her being up Giselle's butt, if I know
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  Speaker 2: that this is just a roommate that looks good on
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  Speaker 2: paper so my family won't be ashamed of me, but
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  Speaker 2: that I know that he's a dud and I paint
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  Speaker 2: the lemon and that we're just roommates raising kids together
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  Speaker 2: and I have a chance to be on a show
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  Speaker 2: and your only job on the show is to make
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  Speaker 2: me look good while I try to chase fame, that's
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  Speaker 2: why I would care more about Giselle and being put
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: on and being with the cool girls than than actually
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: speaking to my marriage. It's not even really a marriage.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: It's a shell of a marriage, right? It would also
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: speak to why I can be cavalier when it's brought
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: up because I've already checked out on this dude back
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: during the pandemic. So I will say in my culture,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: those relationships exist a lot. And I think she's like
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Nigerian and British, right? A lot of immigrant cultures, We're
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: told divorce, you can never divorce even if you don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: want to have a husband no more. And so if
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: she is doing that thing of we're married only legally,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: but I've emotionally kind of gave up on you a
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: while ago, it actually explains everything that I saw in
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: episode number two.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: I respect it.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: My only caveat would be then you come on the
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: show and say to Giselle, look, I don't give a
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: fuck what I'm doing with my marriage and in my house.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: That's my damn house and my marriage should do it with.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: And you are not going to be the person to
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: tell everybody in this group that I'm doing it. It
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: was disrespectful as fuck. And now I don't like your
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: ass no more. And every time I see you, I'm
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: going to cuss you out because I'm thinking about what
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: the fuck you said about the shit I'm going through
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: at home.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: That's the approach that will garner you the respect that
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: your pursuit of fame, you know what I'm saying, seems
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: to be predicated on. Show yourself as a person who
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: will stand up to Giselle. In that case, be like, no,
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: I'm staying with my husband.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I love my family.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: And even though he was wrong as shit, I'm staying
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: with him because that's how we do it where I
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: come from. But you are not going to be the
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: person who is going to serve this to everybody and
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: stand up for yourself. It's her kissing Giselle's ass and
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: kowtowing to her that's turning me off personally.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I just speak for myself.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: That's the disconnect for me when it comes to, you
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Claudia, you got something to say before we move on?
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: She got emotional when she was talking about her daughters
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: looked to her as an example of how to be
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: like in a relationship. And it meant one thing to
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: me when we were just finding out that this just happened,
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: but then it means something else to know that it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: been happening since you were pregnant year one of your marriage.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: So like you knew from the beginning and you can't,
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: you know, like this, I don't believe that this is
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: the first or second time she's heard about this or
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: known about this. This is the first and second time
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: we're hearing about it. And that's sad. You know what
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: I mean? Like, were you getting emotional because we're finding
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: out about it and it's embarrassing? You know when people
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: get cheated on in private, they can deal with it
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: a little bit differently. But when it's out on blast
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: on social media and the public, it's a different thing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: But you done been. He been getting away with it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you brought it up in year one of
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: your 17-year-long marriage. You've been together for 27.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you called me real fast and then we'll move on.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. The reason why 95% of housewives get divorced, 95%, okay?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: The entire cast of New York City before the reboot,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: they all were divorced. The entire cast of Atlanta before
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: this reboot, all divorced. Potomac, all divorced, except obviously Wendy.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And Candace was still married. But my point is, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: we saw what happened to Mia and Gordon. The reality
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: is this, and this is what people don't realize, And
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say Real Housewives. Nine times out of ten,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: when a woman signs on to be a Real Housewife,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: it's an exit strategy from her marriage.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Okay? It is.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Because she's choosing herself and she's choosing to build something
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that she can have without the need of her husband.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: On Salt Lake City, Demi and Dustin, watch. you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: we have two women going through a divorce at this...
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Dustin, I lied. On Salt Lake City current season,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: there are three housewives going through the divorce at the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: same time.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Angie, Bronwyn, and Whitney.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Okay? So listen, I'm not going to sit up here
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: and speculate, but my thing is this, and my theory
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: is this.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: If your man did that to you the first year
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I got married... I'm with Claudia. He didn't wait until
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Potomac said you got the job to start over again
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: years later.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Right? It has nothing to do with her celebrity. It's
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: before that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: I just want to see the pictures from the dating app. Sorry.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I was thinking the same thing. Which one did he
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: choose for the head?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to see what he picked.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: He was hat fishing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: To present himself as like a potential date to people.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I want to see what the picture says.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question about old girl?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Because this actually statement bothered me, but it's not big
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: enough for it to be a talking point, but I do,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it's niggling at me for some reason. Our good girl, Stacey,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to Carla's point, she's ahead of the curve. She got
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the voice before the show, so ha, it doesn't work
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: for me, right? Stacey's always, she's never wrong just early, right?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: But I have a question. Stacey said something that really
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: bothered me about Tia. She said, she told me that
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I married up. I have a question. Does Thierma or
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: whatever his name is, is he crazy rich? Because my
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: question that I wrote is, is she saying that because
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: he's richer than Stacey or just because he's white? What
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: does that mean she married up? Because nothing about him
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: says married up, so I am confusion.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I tapped into that too. I'm like, what you trying
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: to say about Stacey by saying that?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: That statement really bothers me and it won't go away.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Carlos, is it because he's rich?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Based on what I have heard, he definitely is a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: man of means.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, so it's because he's rich and white, not just white.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Got it. Okay, go ahead.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we know that some of them look at
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that as proximity. But I'll give you his job description
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in a second because I want to make sure I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: get the facts.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Before I say it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Hmm. All right, up next, we got Dr. Wendy, who
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: met with her mother. As we all know, Dr. Wendy's
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: mom has never met a camera she didn't like.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Hey, Dr. Wendy's mom, I love you. I love her mama.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up!
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, just saying.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That's how you love her?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: No, that's what she said to Wendy.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I love her. I know, I know.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: But that's the quote that you picked to show you
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: love her?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: It's iconic.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Oh, you just shut the fuck up.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: You shut the fuck up. Yeah, I love her.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, so.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I was surprised, I must admit. I was surprised that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: We did see a softer side.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I was surprised we saw a softer side of Wendy's mom, right?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Is that what we saw?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And I do want us to talk about this a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: bit because Wendy's mother wants her to stay married to Eddie.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And when the producer asked Wendy in the confessionals, Was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: her mother disappointed in Eddie? Wendy said that her mother
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: would have to do that herself. This scene surprised me
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: because I did expect, based on what I've seen of
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Wendy's mom, to really give her that tough love that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: we've seen throughout her time on the show. I was
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised that she seemed to be softer when it
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: came to Wendy's situation.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And I was even more shocked that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: She seemed to have been on staying in your marriage, right?
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: She seemed lighter.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Wait, is that a double meaning?
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not touching that.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying she seemed lighter.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying. You know I ain't saying nothing about that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Well, Dustin, if you want to talk, Dustin, you can
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: start now.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Her approach.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I ain't saying nothing.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Y'all being serious right now?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, go ahead.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Because before we seen her in scenes, first of all,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: she hates the fuck out of Wendy's father, right? She
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: cussed Wendy out last season. or even trying to have
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: a phone conversation with them. You know what I'm saying?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: She always cussing Wendy out. Drink the wine and all
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: that other shit. You know what it is. So she
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: seemed to have a lighter approach. Y'all trying to make
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: it seem about the bleach and shit. I was not even,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: not y'all. I'm talking about audiences, right?
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: No, never us.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: You know I'm direct with my shit. I would have
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: just said it. You know what I'm saying?
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I'm not. I literally meant she had like a lighter approach.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: way and approach now.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: It is funny and I do see the joke now
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: but you know at the.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Time I did not find it soft at all yeah
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: oh go ahead Blue I'm so sorry I had the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: complete opposite reaction and it's Carlos' fault which is why
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I think I'm shocked that Carlos is saying soft inside
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: of Sears Carlos is always schooling us on how to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: call bullshit on reality TV and you put it in
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: my head last season that Wendy be rehearsing her lines
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: with her family and saying action So, because of you,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Carlos D. King, I was like, oh my God, he's right,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: because this is performative as hell. I didn't say it wasn't. Okay,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it was performative as hell. It felt like a Tali
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Perry production to me. Here's the deal.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't get my recap. I just set the stage
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: and Dustin took over. So, go ahead.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, well.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Lighter or not.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I'm leaning more towards what I think you're about to say,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: but I'll reserve my comment to after Claudia speaks.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But go ahead, sis.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: I'm not talking.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: I will talk. I will talk. I, number one, love Wendy. Wendy,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I don't care who did it. You, Eddie, the butler
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: in the pantry. I don't care.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: So let's start there.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I'm on your side, right? Number two, the biggest fall
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: from grace for me for this show is Karen Huger.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: The minute Karen decided to be nasty with Wendy, she
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: lost me and a lot of the audience was vocal
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: about her losing him as well. And also that line about,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: like your mother said, you need to shut the hell up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I don't feel her mother has changed whatsoever, lighter, darker, whatever.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think what happened is they got the scripts. And
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Wendy said, so mother, you see how you saying that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: line was weaponized by my biggest op against me, right?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: We need to fix this. So when I come in,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you need to show them that you love me, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: love you, cue the Barney. And then you have to
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: make sure that you disavow Karen so when I ether
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: her in a couple of scenes, we have the precedent
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that she can't use you because you don't give consent.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And I will make sure that when I look good
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: as hell, like a bad bitch in my confessionals, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: will say, and I quote, because this is the script,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I have to write the lines, the world turned their
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: back on me, but my mom didn't.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Or else I'm not giving you your allowance.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And if you do this, I'll pay your mortgage for
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: It felt.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I adore Wendy and I was yelling bullshit the entire time.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: According to the school of Carlos, I learned that that
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: was bullshit. So that's why I'm shocked that you're saying
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: this because... Oh, okay.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Once again. Did I get it right?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Did I get it right?
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I was setting the stage for the conversation. I did
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: not offer my opinion. I.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I was going to wait until Claudia goes and I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: was going to end.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Claudia, would you like to go before I- The world
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: turned their back on me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: It was a little fake-ish. It was a little fake-ish. Listen,
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I don't want to dim anyone's light. I'm just going
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: to back up out of this conversation. I'm not going
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: to say anything. About anybody.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Do the horse, Claudia. Do the horse.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Go into the horse.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Force effect.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I'll take it for the team. I don't care.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying... Claudia.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: That's actually smart.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: That's really smart.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I'm fair. I'm fair. I'm fair. Obviously... that was a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: rehearsed scene. And it's obvious. It's obvious.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: The reason why I said at the top that I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: was pleasantly surprised, because I was surprised that the mama felt,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that the mother signed on, because her
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: mother is like Mama Joyce to me, which is, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I work with the iconic Mama Joyce.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I want to tell Mama Joyce what to do.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So I was pleasantly surprised that Wendy allegedly spoke to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: her mother and said all the things that Blue said.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, Blue, verbatim what you said, I do believe
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that conversation happened before the record button was pushed.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: And I.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I think that what we're going to see this season
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that storyline is a very carefully
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: worded and crafted scene work from them And I will
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: say this, and I'm being honest when I say this,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I get it because I think Dr. Wendy and Eddie
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: knows that the prosecution is watching.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Hell yes.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: And they're taking note based on every scene.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And that's why I am prepared that for this season, Dr.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Wendy is going to give us scene work that doesn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: make her case get worse. And because I do love
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: her and I want to see her prevail and Eddie
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: as well from this, I'll give you a pass this season.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But what I will say is we still have to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: call out things we're seeing. And for me, that definitely
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: was a rehearsed scene because I wasn't, I expect that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: from her mother. I think her mother, am I saying this?
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Wendy being cavalier, and secretive when the producer asks, is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: your mom disappointed? Shows me that her mom is disappointed.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: But the scene we watched did not suggest that. And
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that's when I said, this is obvious that the reality
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: isn't matching what we're watching.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you what gave it away for me.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: And to be clear, I love Wendy and I'm on
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: her side.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: We love her.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: We want her to win. Talk about the case, love her.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: And she looked the fuck good. Shout out to Paris Shea.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Two of them together is magic.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: But what gave it away for me was when Wendy
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: walked into her mom's house and her mom came down
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: the steps and said, hey, Wendy, how are the kids?
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: How are the kids doing? That dialogue, I was like, okay,
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: this is a total, like, poor scene. So that's what
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: gave it away for me.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: So Courtney had us see this episode. Her father is
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: a PK. Kourtney is a newbie on Potomac. She's with
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: her two kids. She's working on her ordainment. In this scene,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: she reveals,' Cause.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Kourtney, I like you.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Cause Kourtney said,' You ain't about to TME, Rob.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Okay?' Let's be clear.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell my business before Giselle Bryant gets
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a DM, okay? Before Cookie, hey, Cookie, DMs Karen, okay?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Courtney said, I'm going to spit my own tea. Courtney
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: revealed that there was infidelity on her side and her
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: husband's side.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: They both cheated.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Everybody cheated.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: She said that they were separated for two years.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Courtney.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the job that you signed up
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to do. I'm here for it. And, and, and I
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: have a feeling I'm gonna like you a lot because
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I agree. I agree. Just drop the religious act.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: I think that she's laying that on a little thick
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: as her, her stick kind of her angle with the cast.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: And I think that once she gets over that performative
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: piece with that, like I respect her faith, obviously, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: her mission to be a pastor or whatever, but, Once
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: we are made aware of that, that's enough of that.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Now let's get you in
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: the mix with the ladies. So it's only episode two.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Do you think she's
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: following in Portia's footsteps of starting religious and then being
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: freaky afterwards? Do you think maybe there's a little bit
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of that happening too? Because the religious to freak pipeline
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: tends to work really well in reality.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I brought that up last week.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: It's very reminiscent of season five Portia, which I'm fine with.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I think she's a very pretty woman. She seems to
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: be a doting mother. And I think she handled herself
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: well at the Wizards game. But I don't need to
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: see her in the pulpit no more on the show.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Unless it's like a group scene and them going to church.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. The church would go up in smoke.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Sorry. Go ahead.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: Even the kids, the kids clocked in. They said, you
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: need way more practice.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: That was cute. I thought that was cute.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: It was cute. And then when they went up and
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: did it, they was already good out the gate. Like
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: they both was like way better. I like her a
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: lot too. I think she's adorable. I think she's very pretty,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: very cute. She's spunky. I like her. I think it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: great to bring in the basketball element of someone that's
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: currently involved. I think that's dope. But yeah, the pastor,
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: preacher thing to me, been there, we've seen this happen
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: before and it's never worked out. And it just feels
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: so cringe. Maybe if we see in future episodes that
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: This is really our passion, but it kind of gives, okay,
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: what else can we do for my storyline?
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know. But I'm not a big fan of
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: all that anyways. You know what I mean? I'm a heathen.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Claudia, wait a minute.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: Claudia will be a bedside Baptist every Sunday.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Bedside Baptist. I'm a kind heathen, but I'm, yeah. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: feel like when you, I don't know. I just be
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: feeling like a little phony sometimes. I think she is,
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: but sometimes like the reality show thing, I don't.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Well, the reason why I think it's her thing, too,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: is because before the show, she has a lot of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Instagram posts for years doing this.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: Oh, really? Okay.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: So this is something that, based on her Instagram.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: She's... Okay.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: I take it back then.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: No, she... This is what she does, yeah.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Praise the Lord.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Leave it there.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: You get on the show, get in the mix with
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: the ladies. Do all that stuff on Instagram.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Praise the Lord, child.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Praise the Lord.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Praise. God bless. Yeah, but just, you know....
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: How do y'all feel about Robin being back this season?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: She's in this episode. She meets with Wendy. I thought
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Robin looked great. But Dustin, starting with you, Robin meeting
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: with Wendy and, you know, trying to ask like how
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: she's doing. And they, you know, they listen. It was
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a nice conversation. Listen, Wendy ain't gonna give her much.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: We know that based on the history of their friendship.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But besides that, I think my question more so is,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: do you like Robin being back so far this season?
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: In two episodes, Robin has already surpassed the effort that
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: she put in during her entire tenure. on the show
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: previously as a housewife in two episodes she has eclipsed.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: That no I agree no I agree sorry.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: When it comes to effort when it comes to intention
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: even like in the conversation that she had with Wendy
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: at the sit down she was so clear and you
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: can tell that she has pressed a personal control or
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: delete she has been reset and rebooted if she were
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: a Sega Genesis cartridge somebody picked her up and did
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: like this.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: And then put her back in you.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying that's what's going on here Robin
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: has been refreshed and she's showing up differently. She must
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: have been listening when Iyanla Vanzant said, do it different,
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: do it different, do it different. Robin is doing it
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: different and it's refreshing to see.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I'm enjoying her. I'm enjoying her. And it seems like she's.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Relieved that she doesn't have to bring any of her
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: home life to the show. She seems relieved to just
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: be in the scene and just talking about this shit
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: and not on the defense and looking for someone to
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: say something that's a personal attack. So she's been more
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: pleasant to watch. I enjoyed her these past two episodes.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I did. Blue?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I need to co-sign my brother Dustin so much because
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I'll say this. Robin is probably my least favorite Potomac
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: housewife of all time up until maybe 14 days ago.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And even when we would joke, like, maybe Robin should
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: come back. I'd be like, no, hiss, boom, right? Like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I was not a Robin fan. There is a whole
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: long list of reasons why I don't like her that
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: we don't have to say anymore because like Dustin said,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: she hit the auto refresh. I do believe, I do
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: agree that these first two episodes have completely scrambled my
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: brain and changed my brain chemistry around her. And I
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: didn't think it was possible. It also proves, and I'm
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: going to keep on pointing this out, what we said
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: last season. Remember when we told Angel... that if she
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: just course-corrected, she could win us back? Remember about an
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: hour ago when we told Arianne if she course-corrected, she
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: could win us back? Robin is literally a case study
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: of how that happens. Robin had years of getting on
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: my good last nerve. And it's almost like she's the
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: reverse of Ashley Darby. Ashley had no relevance after Michael left,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and suddenly Robin is amazing without Juan, right? Sometimes all
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you need to do is leave your husband. Well, sorry,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: from the show. And suddenly you get your personality back, Robin.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So Robin... Everything that I've said about you, and it's
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: a lot. I'm willing to call a truce if you
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: keep this up. You have changed my mind in two episodes.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I pray to God. And even when Wendy gave you
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: smoke as you deserved, because here's the thing. And this
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: is the thing I love about Wendy. Wendy's a perfect
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: example of when people think they can bully you and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: find out the hard way that you can't be bullied,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: and now they have to figure out another way to
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: come to you. Everybody who tried to bully Wendy either
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: left or had to fix their mouth. And so I
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: love that when Robin talks to Wendy, there's a respect
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: in her because she's like, you're formidable. I don't want
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: no smoke. I'm happy to be back. Andy's check deposited.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Can we just start over so I can pay for
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: my bills and whatnot? So Robin, whatever you did, whatever
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: counsel you got, I love it. And I am shocked.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I would have never thought this last season. I think
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they needed you this season to help make things right
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: again because after we went through last season, I was
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: worried about the show. I really was.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Claudia.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: So I'm one of the last people that started watching
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: this show. Really, when I started, I only watched it,
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: I watched it a few times in hair salons before
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: I started doing the show with you guys. So I
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: like to just see bits and pieces. So I never
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: understood a lot of people's hatred for Robin. My first
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: time really talking to her was when we both did
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: watch What Happens Live and then we went for drinks afterwards.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: And I was like, I fucked with you. I like you.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: I think you're cool.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: In real life, yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: He was cool to me.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: I had no issues. But again, I was never irritated
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: from her by the shows. I got to know her
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: one-on-one as a person and she's always been cool to me.
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: Go binge it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Huh? Go binge it, friend. Go binge them early seasons.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll find out very quickly.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: It's okay because there's a lot of people that can
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: say they hate me from one season of Housewives and
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: I'm not letting that define me. You know what I mean?
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: Like what I did in the past. I like her
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: being in this friend of the show role. I think
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: like with Cynthia, there's like a lightness, right? Like did
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: the heavy lifting before. It made me be something I
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: don't like to be. It dragged me. It drained me.
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Made people hate me. And in this role, she seems
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: like she's having fun. She's stirring the pot a little bit.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: She's also showing from some of the previews that she's
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: not necessarily there to be Giselle's mouthpiece like people try
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: to paint her out to be. She seems like she's
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: ready to be like, no, she's her and I'm me
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: and I'm going to show y'all without trying too hard.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: It does not seem performative at all. It seems like
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: she's like, I think it's going to make some people
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: be like, oh, okay, maybe not say they were wrong
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: about her, but... I like seeing this lighter, easy breezy
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: version of her, because I like it. I think she
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: had a perfect amount of mischief about her, and then
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: she's not really scared to ask questions and to stir
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: the pot. I don't know. I like her on the show.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: She's lighter. She's the one who I would- Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Nah, let me shift gears. So the thing is this,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I agree with all of you guys. I do believe
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that in some cases and everything, there's exceptions to every rule.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I do think that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: If a housewife reaches a certain amount of seasons, they
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: should have a break. Because the thing is this, you
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: have to love it again and you have to want it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: When I look at Cynthia Bailey, who's the godmother of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the Brown Housewives of Atlanta, And, like you all said,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: who embraces that role because she doesn't have to talk
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: about Peter and her relationship and her mom and her sister.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And she gets to, like, focus on, like, let me
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: pop in and pop out. And she's excelling in unforeseen
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: heights because of that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: You look at Robin.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Robin.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: I've always said this. I've always felt Robin had potential.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: But I always felt that Robin had a weird relationship
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: with fame.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Because.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I never, the thing is this, when I say this,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing because I love to take
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: everything I say that may sound bad as bad, but
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: this don't sound bad. One of my friends, actually, she
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: hit me up and she said, I've been approached to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: be on a reality show. And she said, should I
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: do it? And I said, you're not thirsty enough to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: do it. And when I say thirsty, it doesn't mean
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it's a bad thing. Like you don't have the thirst for,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: in the sense of you have to really want this
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and you have to be willing to give everything.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: To the show.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Those are the girls and the guys and the days
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: that make it work for them.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: And it's not a bad thing. The hydration is a
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: bad thing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: But being thirsty means you have a thirst for the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: experience and the opportunity because you're going to make it
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: what it is. And I always felt that Robin did
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the show only because Giselle said, you want to do
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: it with me? Because Sharice allegedly cast Giselle and Robin.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: And I think Robin thought it was fun.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: And I think if Robin knew that Juan Dixon and
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: what he was doing, you know, whatever, was going to
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: be a focal point, I personally don't think she would
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: have signed on to do it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I told you guys this.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of women in Atlanta who I wanted
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: to do Atlanta Housewives when I was on it. And
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: they all said to me, no, my husband ain't doing
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: what he's supposed to do. Or my husband's rich. You
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: ain't about to dig in his pockets. Or I have
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: kids and I want my kids to be a part
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: of no show.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: And I respect it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: And I think Robin being back in this role, I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: don't think Robin should ever be a housewife again. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: think Robin is excelling as a friend. And that role
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: suits her. She looks much better, much lighter, much freer.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: And it suits her.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Yep, agreed 100%, Carlos.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get into Karen, Miss Sophia event, guys. So,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Claudia Jordan, Color Purple, Miss Sophia, Karen Kruger said, I'm
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: out of jail, and I'm back. What were your thoughts
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: on this event that Karen threw for the girls?
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, the outfit was pretty accurate, like, right? The costume. But, like, Sophia,
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: it wasn't really.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Huh? She just had the wrong hair, that's all.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: Well, okay.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, Sophia did not have no deep wave.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, but like, here's my thing.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Deep wave too? It was just bad.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: It wasn't really.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: It was just cute though, for real. Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Had she done better research of Sophia's story, it wasn't
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: a happy thing when Sophia got out. When she got out,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: she was forced to be a servant to the man
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: that put her in jail.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: So I was like, huh? Like she was in jail.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: Then she was in jail again in her personal life.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: And not to like the damn near end of her
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: life that she have a little bit of joy and
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: smile again.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: But I was like, so when they did the montage
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: and saying that her stuff don't be making sense. And
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: then I was like, yeah, I don't remember Sophia's story.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, it says she lost her spirit. She was
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: forced into servitude after serving time in prison. She was
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: forced to work as a maid for Miss Millie, the
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: mayor's wife. She was separating her from her family and
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: kids for years. So I was like, huh? But it was,
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, I like costumes and themes.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Sitting in that jail, damn near rot to death. That's
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: what she said in the movie.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Are you listening? So yeah, great. But if nothing else, right?
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: It's great.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: It was a good nod to classic black cinema, right?
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Color Purple is very important to all of us, both
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: iterations of it. And I'm glad that it got some shine.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Alice Walker's work deserved that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: I was like, when she get the clothes, like she,
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: you know, the dress, like, where would you even find that? Like,
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: I was like, okay, Karen, the thing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: We owe you an apology. We said it was reaching
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: with OJ. I think this was more of a reach.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: Listen, I will say there were plenty of people that
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: agree with me in the comments that.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, the OJ thing makes more sense to me
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: than this. I'm going to be honest. I thought.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Oh, then Karen's thing you mean?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole technology makes more sense than Karen's party.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a hot mess. I thought it
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: was weird. And the next thing you know, Ashley's smelling
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: her booty hairs being sensed. The whole thing was a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: shit show in my opinion. I also think that to
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: her trying to use, how do I say this? You know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: there's little moments where you look at somebody like, where
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is this going? When she came out of jail. Sorry,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: prison jail. I don't know the difference. I haven't been
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: to either. But when she came out of lockup and
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: she said, I have the weave of all the inmates
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: braided into me.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I said, now bitch, what happened?
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: That was so gross to me. Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: There's this weird oppression envy. She wants to be Martha Stewart.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: But it's not working out. Snoop Dogg's not coming with
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the good weed. It's very bizarre the way she's trying
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: to become a martyr and reclaim herself as a grand dame. Okay,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: so this is backwards. I used to love Karen and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: couldn't stand Robin, and now here I am in 2026...
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: clapping for Robin and looking at Karen like she's a doof, right? Karen,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: you lost a little bit of your magic when you
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: went in and you came back without it. Again, you
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: overplayed your hand with the Wendy thing because it came
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: off mean-spirited because you thought when you went in there,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: the Grey Knight bandits were bullying Wendy, so you thought
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: it was safe to keep doing that to her, only
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: to find out that she had become beloved in your absence.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: And then when you tried to course correct it, and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Wendy said, no, without a conversation, this is fake and weird.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Now you're mad that she didn't let you rewrite history
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: in her face. I do love the part where she
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: tried to speak about her soft feelings towards women who
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: are in lockup. And then Wendy said, I literally am
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: being threatened with the same injustice that you are saying
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: that you're standing up for. And you stepped on my
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: neck when I was down. So where is it in
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: real life outside of the speech? You gave me that
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: bad gray wig that makes you look 112, even though
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to be a baddie. So- I love that
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Wendy and her production company are planning to have their
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: foot on your neck for the rest of the season
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: because whatever you're selling, I don't like it and it
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: hurts my heart because I used to be a huge
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: fan of yours. You're losing me. And then you trying
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: to flip it and said, but I told you to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: shut the fuck up for your own good. It's getting old.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Nobody's buying it. It sounds crazy and abusive every time
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: you say it. Every time you say it, I see
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Precious running with the fried chicken. It's giving real Monique,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: like it's real bizarre how you being verbally abusive, you
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: think it's a sign of you being a good person.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm just going to say this. I hope there's
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: a part where she realizes I can't gaslight Wendy. I
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: need to move on.
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: Also, it doesn't hurt that much to get your asshole waxed.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: It actually is the least painful.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: You get a bikini wax, that hurts. Your vagina, but
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: not your butt hole. It's like, oh, barely noticed.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ladies, your booty hole is numb. Claudia is correct.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: You've had the little laser, right?
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: Now it's laser, so it's smooth.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Now I'm speaking while the two boys are watching. But yes,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: when you get your booty hole waxed or lasered, it
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: actually has no feeling. So that was all performative and
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: not the good kind. Not you pretending to be in
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: pain with a bad wig on.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: I hate it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: I hate everything about it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Meant doesn't have sidebar conversation about booty holes too, so
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: it's all good.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: We also got hair on ours. Yeah. Mine is hairless.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I got a hairless booty hole.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: That's the same conversation. Dustin said, don't put me in that.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Let's just move on.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: If you know, you know.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, so one of the last things I want to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: get into before I let you guys go is this.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: How did y'all feel when Giselle told Tia... that, listen,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I have no need to apologize to, um, Wendy.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: She is a scammer. You know, she is guilty. She
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: did it. Like, did you read the reports? Like the evidence?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Like she did it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Tia goes back and tells Wendy what Giselle said, um, which, which, um, Tia, see, hey,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I'm giving you that.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: He looks so good here. Can we just talk about
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: how good her and Stacey look? Gorgeous. They look so... Oh.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: My God, they look so good. Skin, everything, gorgeous, all
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: That's how you do a swoop. That's how you do
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: a swoop.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: That's a proper swoop, Ariana, if you still watching. Go
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: to the lady and have a professional swoop.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: Not so thick.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: How did y'all feel? Let me start with you, Claudia.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: When Giselle made those statements about Wendy....
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Was she justified because obviously she has every right to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: feel how she feels? And or were you surprised that
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Wendy did not address it to Giselle in that moment?
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: When Tia told her.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: I felt that Giselle was doing a lot. And I
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: also felt like she was just being a reality star
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: in that moment. I thought she was doing a little
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: bit for the cameras. Like, you know, oh, she did it.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: She a scammer. Thinking that that's, you know, people are watching.
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: Cause I'm like, damn, like, I don't know. I felt
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: like that was a lot, you know? And Wendy, she's,
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: I think she will address it, but she probably don't
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: want to give her no energy right now. But yeah,
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: I thought she, I thought Giselle was putting a little
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: 10 on 20 with that. Like, Like, already convicted the lady.
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: It's already, like, she's convicted. She's already guilty, you know? Like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: I'm like, eh, we should probably hold off on that. Like,
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: let it play out before you can say that with
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: your chest like that because you might end up beating
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: Crow later on and feeling a little silly. You know,
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: we don't really know yet.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Dustin, what are your thoughts on that?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: What Giselle said about Wendy and then ask her the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: next day if she can help her with, you know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the event she has going on.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Giselle been waiting to get Wendy back for the way
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: that Wendy went at her when Giselle was spreading those
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: rumors about Wendy's husband a few seasons ago. And Wendy
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: was on her ass for an entire season and reunion.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: And then they ended up having a slower path toward gentle,
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: cordial times and acquaint and meetings with each other. But Giselle,
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: the way Wendy was cussing Giselle out, remember when she
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: had them braids in and she had the Ivy Park
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: outfit on? And she was like, what did she tell her?
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: Everything you did to me, your life right now is payback.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Whatever she said, Giselle was cussing Wendy out. I mean,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: excuse me, the opposite. Wendy was cussing Giselle the fuck
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: out for a whole season. And I think that Giselle
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: was going to get her back eventually. Yeah, we'll play nice.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: I'll agree to get along with you. Robin is gone now,
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: so I'll get along with you. But the minute I
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: have an opportunity to get your ass back for that,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: I'm going to get you. And I think that's what
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: we're witnessing. And it's fair game on the housewives. So
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not even really, it just kind of is what
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: it is. I don't think Wendy fully ever trusted Giselle.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: And the opposite is true as well. And I saw
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: this coming a mile away. I knew Robin's back on
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: the show. Giselle really has no reason to be, you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: in cahoots with Wendy in any way. She's going to
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: use this to keep the season exciting. So I expected it.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not mad at her about it either. I just
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: think that's just how she feel about it.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: I'm not mad. I think they also said that Giselle
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: apologized to Wendy on What Happens Live.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she apologized in the recent episode and said that
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: she felt bad for calling her. That's why I was
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: going to point out that.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Oh, that was good.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's because Robyn is back. My first
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: thought was she regressed. You know when you go on
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: a diet and you mess around and wake up one
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: day and the ice cream's gone, you're like, oop, I regressed.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I think that Giselle had decided to be vegan while
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Robyn was gone. And the minute Robyn came back, she
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: looked into her green eyes and forgot what she was
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: and regressed a couple seasons ago. I think it was interesting, though.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, but my OJ thing was reaching.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I think Robin is her ice cream. I think it's
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: her hot and nice.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: Look at the veganism and ice cream.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think so. I think she looked into
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Robin's eyes and said, we back at it? And Robin's like, no,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: we're not back at it. Ain't nobody coming to see you, Otis.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I think what's going to be crazy is I'm wondering
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: if the fact that Robin has course corrected and is
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: playing the game smarter... is what causes the chasm between
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: her and Gisele. Because Gisele's used to her being the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: A mic, Robyn being the sidekick B mic, while she's
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: hiding Juan's sins, and then Gisele's whatever. Now that Robyn's like,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm my own person, and Juan's not here, I can
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: actually just be a regular cool-ass bitch, I think Gisele's
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: not used to Robyn being autonomous.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: She's not going to like that.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I can't take Wendy on my own. We're supposed to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: help me jump her. I think that's what's going to
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: happen to Giselle. She's realizing, I thought you were going
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: to help me jump Wendy. Now you're being reasonable. And
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: now I look stupid by myself, which is why I
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: had to make peace with her last season when I
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: thought I was alone. I'm alone again. So I think
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: that's going to be an interesting conversation. And Robin, I
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: am so happy that I know that without Giselle, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: like you. Because here's the funny thing. I like Giselle
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: without Robin. I like Robin without Giselle. That's what this
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: season so far has taught me is when they're apart,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I actually really enjoy them. It's the relationship that they
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: have and the dynamic that they have that I find icky.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. Okay.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Very interesting.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: So Raindrops, let us know your thoughts on this episode.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I think Potomac's having a great season so far. It's
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: only been two episodes, but so far so good. So Raindrops,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: let us know in the comments your thoughts on it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Claudia, Dustin, and Blue once again. And watch
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Potomac every Sunday on Bravo.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Love y'all.
• 55:29
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• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Have a good night.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: Bye.
• 55:31
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• 55:39
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