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Weekend Recap, Gronowski stunk, Cyclones roll, Scott Dochterman joins the show · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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On the Monday of Cyhawk Week, we welcome you to Miller and Condon
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on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller here with you for the next couple of
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hours talking sports with you. Thanks for starting your Labour
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Day afternoon with us as we'll take you up until 2:00 at that
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time off the bench. Sean and Lucas will take you
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from 2:00 until 5. Here's what's coming up on our
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program toward the bottom of the hour.
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Scott Dockerman will join us from the Athletic.
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We will talk college football talk Hawks, we'll talk Cyhawk
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with Scott coming up here at 12:30.
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Scott again from the Athletic where he writes on college
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football, one O clock Bama, Bob, Trent and I on the weekend.
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It still has one game remaining. It's just a fascinating week.
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Got to love the sport, college football, and we'll cap the
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weekend with Obama and then probably go on record just to
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breakdown Tonight's just get our opinion, not necessarily break
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it down on TCU and UNC and then we'll have Bill Seals in here.
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Covers Iowa State cyclonereport.com, Mr. Monday
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night. We'll make it pick on tonight's
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game and I'm not sure why. It's a rough one.
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Rough one, man. I'll say you and you and Sean
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Offer threw a goose egg at. Him, well, you know how to you
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got to pick your right teammate and you're my teammate, so way
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to keep us aboard. This week.
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All right, Well, it's all uphill from here anyways, so we'll do
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that before we get out of here and turn things over to off the
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bench with Lucas and Sean from 2:00 until 5:00.
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So there was good names. There was.
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I don't know what you call it in Iowa City.
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Crap. Yeah, that's that's one word.
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Just lackluster 44 yards through the air playing Albany, right,
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right. It was just I mean, I was
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dumbfounded, Trent, I'll put it that way.
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I I just I mean, come on, This is what we get.
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This is what This is why he made all those people signed NDA so
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you'd keep secret how much you're paying Mark Gronowski and
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this is what he does. Trent, he refused.
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It's almost like he had Steve blast disease, right?
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He did. He wouldn't throw the ball.
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There were opportunities, there were plays to be made and he
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multiple. And it wasn't just the hideous
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pass to Sam Phillips. And that was as bad as you can.
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Get it wasn't the misses including the first one of the
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day. It was time in and time out.
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There were receivers and he wouldn't uncork it.
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So our seats were in the North End zone, excuse me, the South
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end zone. And so had the, you know, all 22
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vantage point on it and the number of times, yes, I'll see
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him. Phillips, why do a touchdown?
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I mean, this is a 60 yard touch easy.
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It's the guy that he was locked in on.
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And as soon as he clears the linebacker, there's nothing but
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green to the fastest guy in your team.
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And he doesn't. And he kind of checks down.
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He looked mentally broke. 44 yards.
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Not only was it awful, and it was, I mean, there's no way.
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No, I Xavier Williams. Oh, yes, OK, I'm, I'm talking
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about Gronowski. Yeah, Gronowski was awful in the
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passing game, but you couple that with we knew he had a
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shoulder surgery. Where's this big bulky brace
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that he's got on on top of it? He what he does is run the
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football. Yep, that that's what it is.
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Yep, you look at his stat line last year.
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He had three games last year where he threw over 200 yards.
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True, he is a runner, as we heard of the broadcast a lot.
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The Tim Tebow of the SES. Oh.
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Sure did my. God, Tim Tebow, Mesco Fable
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complete some passes. Yeah, he's winning Heisman's and
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probably should have won. Heisman's won Heisman.
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We got robbed the second year. I, I, I was just again, maybe I
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shouldn't have bought in because we were told throughout the
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month of August, you know, it's not really going all that well.
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There was kind of sugar coating and nobody was coming right out
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and saying, boy, Gronowski sucks or this guy's really, I think we
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sold it. We were bought, sold a Billy
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goods. Again, he's nowhere near as good
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as we thought he was going to be, but we can.
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He's not having the best month. You know, he's shaking off some
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rust, blah, blah, blah. He was awful.
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It takes me back to a year ago at this time because during
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August camp a year ago, we heard plenty of those rumblings and
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things about K McNamara, that Brendan Sullivan was Tim
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Lester's choice, that he was outplayed by Brendan Sullivan
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throughout the August camp. He didn't want to believe it.
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And we went to the Open Kids Day and McNamara was awful and yet
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Sullivan wasn't very good either.
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So just, well, let's just chalk it up to.
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That Lester of two evils, right? And what have we heard so many
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times during this camp? Tim Lester in the three
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different times Iowa media day availability, Tim Lester every
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single time to talk about how great Hank Brown.
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Hank Brown we never heard great. I don't believe when he was
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talking about Mark Gordowski never heard anything like that.
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Is it because maybe no one pressed him because he was just
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the presumptive starter from the time he got?
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Here. Oh, absolutely.
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I'm sure that is the case. But are we already trending in
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the direction once again? And I never thought we were
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going to be here, certainly not in September 1st.
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No, after you've just got through with the Great Danes of
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Albany, right? This might be the worst team
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they've played at Kennick Steam and how long?
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It's been a while. I I don't remember 1 is bad.
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No. And this was a team that was
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able to make some plays and, and do some things in the passing
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game. And, and you couldn't make plays
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and it was because of the quarterback.
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That's how you could not make why you didn't make plays in the
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passing game. I, I don't think that this is
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panic in the level of well shut the program down, but I think
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it's time to reconfigure what the upside of this program, what
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this team is this year. Well I'm already seeing posts
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that they're excited for basketball after week.
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One, we've had many of those years.
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Well, basketball's coming. Yeah, Week one.
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Well, here we go. I mean obviously overreaction
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but I don't know. I hope it is on reacting because
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we saw with our own two eyes it was.
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Putrid, well, you know, he's never played in front of that
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kind of crowd. He played.
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For championships, you're playing Albany.
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He was too revved up. What do you think it's going to
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be next week? Really.
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You think it's going to be like walking into North Dakota?
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You think it's going to be like walking in to Vermilion?
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It's going to be a little bit more charged up than going into
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the unidote. Yeah, those folks and grand
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folks, they take it pretty seriously.
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Trent. That's a hell of a rivalry.
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He is walking in to a hornet's nest, and if that made him
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nervous on Saturday, Hawkeye fans look out.
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This is going to be. And Cyclone fans will be in full
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throat because that is a confident group, as they should,
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absolutely should be. Trent, I got to give on one
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hand, Campbell's being Campbell again, right?
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With the depth chart, you know. Does he do?
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It for me does he Probably because he knows I'm going to
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overreact. Yes, you are.
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The depth chart comes out, but keep in mind you don't have to
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put it on availability report. Birds listed as the starter
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after not being on it for the K State game, the South Dakota
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game. There he is in his place.
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He's starting. He didn't dress, no, there was
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no day this past week that he was going to start.
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But anyways, that aside, let's get to the good.
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Yes, but Campbell being Campbell drives me nuts.
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Yes, it does. We.
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Don't. But I got to give Campbell and
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his staff credit because did you see what happened in Manhattan?
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That team was not ready to play. That team had a Dublin hangover.
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The team was the names, not. At all?
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Not at all. They were ready to go.
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Oh my God, were they ready to go?
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This was I mean Patton back-to-back weeks game changing
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plays maybe. I know it's crazy to say that
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his interception was 14 to 7 was a game changer, but they showed
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no signs of stop in South Dakota to that.
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Point No, absolutely not. And I think on that play, I
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believe because the ball was tipped by the receiver, yes,
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into the hands of Patton, I think the ball is actually
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intended for the kid that was behind him, really, who I think
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was open now. I'll have to it's.
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Football replay so sure you don't know for sure.
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I think he would have caught and he would have been inside the if
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that would have happened. It was about to be 14 a piece,
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14 a piece. Change from there and then on.
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Just on I mean. We can't come up with enough
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superlatives about Rocco back. It's unbelievable.
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Isn't he so cool? Yeah.
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Now the defensive game plan for South Dakota, can you bring some
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pressure? Because what you were doing was
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not working. Now, was that the offensive line
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for Iowa State? I mean, I that's a.
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Good question. That's.
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Because that's never been the offensive line, right In the
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last 10 years for Iowa State. But maybe it was this week,
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maybe it was I still when it when it comes to the clones and
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Dylan Lee was unbelievable. That was garbage.
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Time it was, yeah. The the running game still I'm
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I'm still questioning a little bit, but the passing game not I
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mean Gabe Burkle. Is Gabe Burkle going to play on
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Sunday? So I had this on my notes
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because I know that you absolutely love Bramer.
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Yes, I do. I do too, no?
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Good player. Yeah, Gabe Burkle's a stud.
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Gabe Burkle believable He would be a starter for 120 teams.
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You see the Rapids kid, right? He is.
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He is great and that was what I was going to say.
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He's going to play on Sundays. Yes, he absolutely is.
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That tight end room is deep. Oh my God.
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Stacked Tyler Moore. Another guy that I put a star by
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was Townsend, and seeing him, he's got some.
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Wiggle to him, He really does. And they used him on the run
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game there on the little jets we play.
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But just him. He made that one play down on
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the near sideline and he just kind of scooted around like get
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that guy got all in his space. You know, he reminded you guy
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that just graduated and sketching balls for the Houston
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Texans. Yeah, he was in building this
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past weekend, him and his teammate.
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Jay Dole, look, I mean, there was a lot of similarities in
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Townsend. Maybe he's got more wiggle to
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him. He's got some shake.
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I don't know if he's got the speed of Jaylen Dole, but it
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looks like they do have something there and I get why
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the hype was surrounding him. We didn't see him over in
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Dublin. We need to see more of him going
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forward. He was outstanding, really.
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Was Eskelson Eskelson that right away pass?
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Yeah, right down the field, I, I, I saw a kid playing
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quarterback I'd never heard of before.
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Alex Minsky. No, I heard of him, Major
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Cantrell, who gets into the game late.
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I, I wanted him to score. I mean, I don't know if he'll
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ever get an opportunity to play again, but wanted him to get
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into the Angel. But I got to stop.
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I, I got to give credit where credit is due.
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Conradie, 63 yards. What a bomb.
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So Cyclone fans would have to help me out with this.
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What are the biggest kicks in Iowa State history?
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Well, see, here's the two that I think of, yeah.
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OK, there's a long list of misses.
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There's a long list. Yeah, yeah.
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Chance to win the Big 12 N Shaggy.
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Yes. 1513 all. All of them via the field.
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Goal 5 for five and a guy that going into that was somaligned.
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I think he was. Didn't they get him?
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Didn't they put out an all points bill bulletin on campus?
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If you've ever kicked in high school, we need a kicker type of
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thing. And they found Brett Culberson.
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I've got his number on my cell phone.
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I should reach out to him this week.
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But anyways, comes in and he kicks 5 field goals.
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Huge Cole Netten, huge kick to beat.
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Beat Iowa in Cyhawk obviously last year.
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Conradi. Does Conradi have two of the
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most memorable kicks now in Iowa State football history?
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I mean, anytime you beat Iowa in Kennick, last wasn't the last
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play of the game, but your last possession.
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That's on the list. But now not only to have, you
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know, the longest kick for your school history, but it also in
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your home venue. That's pretty rare air.
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And he's got two of them. Yeah, 2004.
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I'm looking at culverts and his bio on cyclones.com.
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He kicked at Lincoln. He joined midway through the
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season, Yeah. They put on an APB.
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Yes, so bad it was. And he wasn't very good in the
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beginning either. But a year later.
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He was a real splitter. He kicked at Lincoln in high
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school. You're right though, these are
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263. Just seeing where they spotted
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that ball, he was like. Well, it was the right time in
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the. I mean, you're not going to try
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that midway through the 1st whatever.
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Yeah, there was one time to try it either at the end of the game
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when he needed one or at the end of the half and they didn't.
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To his credit, I mean, he probably had a couple of yards
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to spare on that bad boy too. So the confidence you wouldn't
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want to believe would elevate him.
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Like he's 4 for 10 from 40 to 49.
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That's where my knock is on, right, Because there's a lot of
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kicks from that range and I don't trust him from that range,
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but he certainly open in my eyes and and credit where credit is
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due, Kalakari, that was a hell of a kick.
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So well done there. But I was stated was just how
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far depth the depth chart did they go, Trent?
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As deep as they wanted to, maybe Flora looked like an absolute
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God. And what back-to-back return 99
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Yarder and you're not breaking that record.
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No. Just a toe on the line that held
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and then he comes, right, That's right call plus.
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Yeah, and he comes back with another was at 55 yards, the
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second one. And he was sucking wind after
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that, wasn't he? Anybody was 2 55 seven.
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The final look again credit to the staff to the nutritionist,
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whoever was in charge of the sleep, whoever was assigned
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something after that K state and going into it look to the look
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to Manhattan for what went wrong.
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They almost if it would have should have got beat.
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I was stayed on the air on a complete clubbing.
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What else from the weekend caught your attention?
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How about Utah? Oh, Utah is, I mean, is it Utah?
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Iowa State? Is that the 1/2?
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Arizona State, maybe. I'm with you, Trent.
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I think you're. One I watched a lot, I watched
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quite a bit of that. I had that on one of the TV's
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late on Saturday night and was not overly impressed with what I
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saw. They were just ton of penalties
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just going through the motion since Northern Arizona too.
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So you don't want to overreact to that part of it.
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But it for me, it's Utah, Iowa State, 1-2, whatever order you
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want to put them in. And the gap is significant.
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But the utes they bring in Dampier from New Mexico.
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We knew we could run, but he can Chuck it.
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He can Chuck it. Yeah, I'm glad I have that Utah
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ticket. But anyways that that aside,
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they look really really good. Should we slide through the Big
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12 a little bit more and we'll jump over the Big 10?
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A couple other takeaways that I had there.
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You mentioned the Kansas State one.
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I mean, that was just absolutely eye opening the other one.
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And maybe like you knew, Hawaii was kind of in a bad spot coming
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off the the Week 0 game that they had and and doing it, but
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Arizona. Did the Hawaii quarterback play?
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I know he was banged up in the game against Stanford.
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Did he play? I believe it was the the kid
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that played, but he was dealing with that foot injury.
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Yeah, he did play. He did, but he just wasn't very.
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Good. And he was able to go the
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distance. Well, he was the no another kid
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came out there. Yeah, he went 18 to 31 and then
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the backup came in. I'll Weaver for.
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Him So did you see any of the Arizona game?
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I did not see a single. Play I did a little bit and it
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was and then the highlight package afterwards, but Fafida
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looked like Fafida, this guy we saw two years ago like.
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We thought we were going to see last.
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Year and they were able to run the ball were they it's against
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why yeah, but Arizona maybe back to a sneaky team.
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OK, they're not going to win the league.
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But a six and 6 maybe? Right, yeah, they pull it Upset,
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maybe an upset that decides, you know who gets feel?
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Free to be at Arizona State in late November, that would be
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that would work. Absolutely.
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Other than that, a lot of blowouts in the Big 12.
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This week, though, for the Big 12, I mean, we go back to
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Friday. What the game I'm most
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interested in? Iowa State.
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Well, of course, I mean that second.
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Yeah, right. Yeah, you're right.
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The game. That's the game that piques my
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interest the second most. Kansas, Missouri.
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Yeah, that's it. Yep, Yep.
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That's it for me. There's a big there's a a game
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in the Big 10 that's got both yours and my interest because
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I'm all over Illinois and you think dookies are going to beat
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them. I don't know if I'm going to go
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that far. I'll be grabbing the.
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Point. It's a tight number, isn't it?
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Like a field goal I think. 2 1/2 in some it's. 2 1/2 now by the
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way, the side hawk line it was circle was 3 1/2 yesterday
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afternoon. I think it's across the board 3
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right now. Three's everywhere was when I
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checked before going on the air. What about, let me ask you about
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Michigan and we'll do more of this, obviously, when Bama comes
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bored. But I mean, I think I thought
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Underwood backed it up. I mean, is the bravado was
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clearly on full display. College football's never seen a
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quarterback like a freshman quarterback like me.
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All right, a little over the top.
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But you know what? He looked pretty damn good.
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I my pick is taken from that yes, Underwood looked really
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good a defense kind of showed some holes in it defense New
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Mexico and they got 3 interceptions, but still New
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Mexico was able to move the ball better than I anticipated they
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would. I thought this thing was
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destined for you know 31 nothing as opposed to 3417.
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So it's Michigan, I'm sure they're going to be okay, but
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that was kind of a take away is I thought this was going to be
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an elite Michigan defense and. There was normally has been
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late, yeah. There were some more holes than
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I anticipated for the Wolverines.
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Maryland's got a quarterback. Malik Washington looked really
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good, but they're Maryland. Not that the radio.
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Very odd radar. They'll get off to a good start
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and then they'll fall apart late because that's what Locksley
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does. Probably real quick on Texas,
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Ohio State, I know there's a lot of people that think Arch
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Manning is a bust. Matt Patricia game plan against
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the best quarterbacks in the world for a lot of years.
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I know he had Belichick helping him, which I think helps Matt
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Patricia. Obviously, Matt Patricia out
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schemed who has ever called him plays for Ohio State.
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They did what you do against a guy making his first career
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start on the road now. Why did you not pick that game?
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You were all over that game all week.
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Long, I don't know, it was the same thing I was with you with
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LSU. I just picked the wrong ones.
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You know, I have a list of 10 to 12 games, the five I gave up,
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the wrong ones, and that's going to happen some weeks.
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But you're right, I absolutely loved Ohio State all week long.
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And what Patricia did seemingly every single time is show you
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one thing. Yeah.
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And then absolutely, we can do something completely different.
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So we're driving over to Iowa City.
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So I was listening on the radio to the call, so I listened to.
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Westwood ones call. It wasn't Westwood one, it was
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the local ones for each of the broadcasts.
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I didn't even realize because I clicked on it on the
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second-half. So listen to Ohio State, want to
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hear Jim Lachey, Luke Lachey's dad, on the broadcast.
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Haven't heard very often. It was good broadcast.
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And I start the second-half and I'm like, well, that sounds
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different because it's the Texas call.
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And so I get to the tailgate, the 4th down call and they, they
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said, well, you know, Arch just slipped on that one.
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And so I'm asking my buddies that I'm watching the game at
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the tailgate, and they said no. He just really didn't give that
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good of an effort. I'm like, oh boy, Bag Dog Bob
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was out out there with the Texas broadcast.
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Play the game No. No, no, no, no.
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This was like early in the early in the third quarter when they
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were down at the five or maybe it's in the.
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First half, you know, I don't remember the play you're talking
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about. But it was 4th and goal, they
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didn't get it and they said the Texas broadcast said that he
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just slipped. Saw the replay, he didn't slip.
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Is that right? He just didn't give the effort
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on that one. But they ran arch a little bit
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more. That's going to happen.
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He's going to be fine. I think he's just two but one
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thing, but. For him to be the anointed
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Heisman front runner going into the game in the 1st or the 1st
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overall pick in the draft to come on.
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No, he was not that guy. Want to mention the Battle of
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the Tigers? We'll get to this.
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It was a game. It was what you saw with those
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two teams and LSU did that team win a national championship.
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I wish I had some tickets. Yeah, yeah, missed opportunity.
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I. Think so too.
19:20
And now you look at this team, they spent Brian Kelly.
19:26
Kelly was one of the coaches also a couple years ago.
19:30
Yeah, he was doing the goofy thing, you know, with the the
19:32
recruit. And then taking the picture, the
19:33
accent, yes. And the fake accent and all
19:36
those things. But he was one of the coaches,
19:38
one of many that at the beginning of NIL really two
19:41
years ago when it took over and he took over at LSU.
19:43
Everyone's going to get the same that that's that's the way we're
19:47
going to do that. He's not alone.
19:48
This isn't a knock on Brian Kelly, right?
19:50
But I think it finally, well, somebody got to him.
19:53
The realization we can't do it that way.
19:55
You look at what they spend in the portal, that defense look
19:58
out. That defense is got dudes all.
20:01
Over because I think Clemson's still pretty good.
20:03
I I do too and they got dudes and they looked inept for long
20:08
stretches of that football. Game.
20:09
You know who maybe is big of A and about face other than all
20:14
weekend long for me? Garrett Nussmayer.
20:17
Yes. He looked really good, didn't
20:18
he? He did, Yeah.
20:20
I think I underestimated his game.
20:21
He was terrific in the football game.
20:23
And then last night, Notre Dame and Miami played in the rain.
20:28
You know what, CJ Carthink. Notre Dame's got a quarterback.
20:30
He's fine. I think he's fine.
20:32
Yeah, I'm with you. Not big concerns there.
20:35
No, No, I think Beck was OK. I think Carson Beck was maybe
20:38
better than I thought. And Eli Reardon, he's the Valley
20:43
kid. He's really good.
20:45
And he you might hear his name called in the first round of the
20:48
NFL. Draft.
20:49
Wouldn't that be something? How about the kid that
20:50
transferred to Miami from Fargo, ND to South Beach?
20:56
I think that's a freaking culture change.
21:00
Oh man Fargo to South Beach my God.
21:03
Anyways. South Carolina Vitech, that was.
21:06
It was fun, Yeah, it was a fun game.
21:09
I love seller. Seller's a hell of a player.
21:11
Seller's a first round pick. And every time you see Nick
21:15
Harbour, who made the big play, they don't really open it up.
21:18
Every time you see him make one of those plays like why doesn't
21:21
he do this non-stop? He's 64 track speed and all SEC
21:25
track runner AT64220. How how does he he have 150
21:31
catches? Why isn't he?
21:31
Jeremiah Smith? Back to that, what do you think
21:35
of Julian saying? He did enough.
21:38
Yeah, he did enough. You could tell he was trying to
21:40
go to Smith. Well, yeah, do that.
21:42
Yeah. Yes.
21:42
Good job, kid. Yeah, try to.
21:43
Well, Smith had a couple of drops, too.
21:45
Hit early in the game. Early in the game.
21:46
Yeah, couple of pretty surprising ones.
21:48
But yeah, just keep chucking it to that guy.
21:50
You're going to be in good shape.
21:51
Yeah, Ohio State's a contender. Alice, who's a contender?
21:54
Yep, no doubt Alabama's not a. Contender.
21:56
Alabama's not a contender. I heard something.
22:00
Is a contender. No, Well, that that defense is
22:03
really good. Archers got to be better because
22:06
their schedule, there's going to be landmines in there at
22:09
Oklahoma game Red River looks a little bit more and more
22:11
difficult. But when you're going through
22:13
and you're looking at these squads, the number of teams that
22:17
can win a national championship, I come back to this often.
22:20
I just don't know how big that list is.
22:22
I don't know how many teams can now.
22:24
Did you? See any of Georgia?
22:25
I did not see a play. Saw the five minute little
22:28
highlight package that. Was it?
22:29
I didn't see anything. I didn't see Penn State.
22:33
Same thing, yeah. Didn't see Penn State, they'll
22:34
be part of it. Fascinating.
22:36
What a what a what a sport, what a sports.
22:39
Cyhawk week it is on maybe. Oh, this is what I got to say
22:43
about Alabama. I heard this coming in today.
22:45
Alabama's never dealt with this in the social media age as we
22:49
know it today. Yeah.
22:51
I mean, you go back to when things are and and imagine what
22:56
it was like when Francione decided to leave Alabama for
22:59
Texas A&M and they've never dealt with this savings here.
23:02
Number one wasn't great. They lost to Louisiana Monroe,
23:05
but we know what happened here too.
23:07
Right in the table to see now what this is going to because
23:10
it's going to get ugly. For sure, without a doubt.
23:14
That fan base has been so spoiled.
23:17
It was now 5 losses under the boar as a double digit favorite.
23:23
5 losses. That can't happen.
23:26
It can't. Happen in the 11 years previous
23:27
under Dick Sabin. How many?
23:28
Five. Yeah.
23:31
Unbelievable really, truly is how the mighty have fallen by
23:35
the way. Game day.
23:36
To no surprise, just a massive, massive number of people
23:39
watching it. Final 15 minutes of the program.
23:42
5.1 million people tuned in to watch the final headgear
23:46
selection of Lee corso's long and distinguished career. 3.5
23:51
was the was the average number of viewers throughout about 5.1
23:55
put it on. Well done the shoe for putting
23:58
it up on the big screen at the at the stadium and well done by
24:03
Fox. But you know what?
24:04
On one hand, well done by Fox picking it up.
24:06
What else were they going to do? Everybody's going to be
24:08
watching. Yes, yes, they may as well watch
24:10
it on your network, whether it's your programming or not.
24:12
All right, real quick, let's get Mike in here, then Scott
24:14
Dockerman joins us to Waterloo. We go.
24:17
Hello. All right, Kenny, Kenny, Trent,
24:19
I'll tell you one thing. This is the best tight end room
24:22
we've ever had. They're better in Kohler and
24:24
Allen. They got the speed.
24:26
Those guys were great tight ends, but they these guys run
24:29
like wide receivers and, and I hear there's a ad in the paper
24:34
in Iowa City to get the basketball team to cover these
24:36
guys in the end zone because you cannot cover A6766 guy in the
24:41
end zone. They got great hands.
24:43
And one other other thing. You know who's a dark horse for
24:46
the Heisman? I hate that.
24:47
I know people don't. Does this Does his first name
24:50
starts with R? Well, Rocco Beck is playing
24:53
lights out. Is anybody playing better
24:55
quarterback in the nation than Rocco?
24:57
He's having a great start to his season, like there's no doubt.
25:00
About that, they were bragging about his arm, and I've heard
25:02
people say he didn't have an arm on the on the television, they
25:05
were bragging about his. No, I mean 19 and 20 set a
25:08
school record. That can't get much better than
25:10
that. Mike, enjoy the week.
25:13
Yeah, good to hear from you. You know, Wilson likes the
25:16
quarterback. I don't know how he's going to
25:17
make it. He's king, you know?
25:18
I mean, good God, he's tough, but boy, he takes some shots,
25:21
doesn't he? My God.
25:22
Can he make it through the course that's.
25:24
What? I don't know, right?
25:25
If he does, Georgia Tech's got a team.
25:27
Georgia Tech's got a team. Take your time out.
25:29
Come back. Scott Dockerman joins us.
25:32
Glad you're with us on a Labor Day.
25:33
Miller and Condon talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports
25:36
Radio Network. I'm Hillary Condon, welcome back
25:46
Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller with
25:49
you until 2 in our number 2 Bama.
25:51
Bob Trenton I talk more college football Bottom of that hour
25:55
Bill Seals. It covers Iowa State
25:57
cyclonereport.com part of on three media stops on in.
26:01
Let's get our friend Scott Docman.
26:02
He writes on college football and other topics, but mostly
26:05
college football at the athletic and he is with us.
26:09
Hello, Doc Trenton Ken, how are you, Sir?
26:12
Not bad. Beautiful day here on this
26:14
Monday and we're in the middle of some, you know, one one of
26:18
the best weekends, opening weekends I could remember and
26:22
here we got, you know, junior rivalry weekend coming up for a
26:25
couple of teams. No, absolutely love it.
26:28
We get to Sidehawk and in just a second and some of the bigger
26:31
games from this past weekend. I guess we have to start with
26:34
you just on, on what you saw from Granowski.
26:38
Obviously the expectations were a lot higher than 8 of 15 for 44
26:42
yards through the air, missed a whole bunch of open receivers.
26:46
Your your thoughts Doc what what happened there?
26:50
Well, you've got to give him an F for sure.
26:52
That was horrible. I'm not going to mince words and
26:55
say that. Well, you know, you know, things
26:57
will come along. He's got to be better than that.
26:59
I mean, they invested a lot in him and he was terrible and
27:02
every single facet when it came to throwing the football.
27:05
Now I've, I'll say this, I've seen him throw it a lot better
27:09
than that. And he obviously you don't throw
27:12
10,000 yards, you know, in your career, if, if you have
27:17
everything is going well. So I, I don't understand, you
27:20
know what exactly he he was, you know what, what exactly went
27:24
wrong? And then afterwards he tried to
27:26
say, well, he's a little too anxious, a little too this.
27:29
Yeah, get it out of your system. But you know, you're, you're
27:32
supposed to be in the NFL this year.
27:33
That's what you're gunning for. So now, you know, all of that
27:36
can be forgotten depending on how he plays this week.
27:39
But he's to play a lot better because otherwise, I mean, it's
27:42
going to be a tough game for Iowa no matter what.
27:44
I mean, for both teams, it's going to be tough because it's a
27:46
rivalry game. But if he doesn't play any
27:48
better than this, then I mean a disaster is lurking and aims for
27:53
Iowa. Doc, I take you back to a year
27:56
ago, we heard during August camp, I know you brought it up
27:58
to us, Chad Leistekow bring brought it up that Brendan
28:01
Sullivan looked like he was out playing or at least you guys
28:03
were hearing out playing Kate McNamara.
28:05
And I think a lot of us push to the side.
28:07
Well, he's just coming off the injury.
28:08
It's going to be OK. We heard Tim Lester multiple
28:11
times here during camp. The two times we got to hear
28:12
from him say that Hank Brown had a tremendous camp, never heard
28:15
those kind of superlatives. Should we maybe be concerned
28:19
about that and maybe the backup is a little bit closer than what
28:22
we thought coming into the year with Gornowski because it sounds
28:24
like this August camp did not go very well for him?
28:28
Yeah, I, you know, I've heard mixed reviews on the camp.
28:32
So, you know, I just kind of wait and see what happens in the
28:34
games in the first game was not a very good game.
28:37
No question. As far as Hank Brown goes,
28:39
there's been a lot of positivity around him and a lot of it has
28:42
come from from Tim Lester and you know, where did where does
28:46
that go? You know, it's hard to say.
28:48
I think at this point you've got to ride with with Gronowski and
28:52
Iowa State week. He's done it a million times and
28:55
you know, it's out to go to state.
28:57
He's got the pedigree, but he also has to be better.
29:00
And, and he to his credit afterwards, you know, he didn't
29:04
try to say, well, I thought I played OK or I thought I played
29:07
well, you know, kind of said would say that or Deacon Hill
29:10
would say that once in a while. And no, he didn't sugarcoat it
29:14
at all. But you know, I I think I would
29:17
give it till halftime by hot games before I I really come to
29:22
a full evaluation, because if he's missing receivers the way
29:25
he was missing them the other day, he does that names again.
29:29
You know, this the season's going to be too difficult.
29:32
You've vested too much in everybody.
29:35
You know, you've got to play it like a business now and you've
29:37
got to say, hey, dude, are you all right?
29:39
Because if you're not, we're going to the other guy.
29:40
And if you are all right, get it together because we can't afford
29:44
to play like this in this position.
29:46
It's almost like he had the yips, you know, he just, it was
29:49
couldn't, couldn't make the throw like Steve Sachs back in
29:52
the day. You remember Sachs, the second
29:54
basement anyways, Phil? Park Hill.
29:57
There's another one, Phil Parker's defense.
30:00
Your thoughts from what you saw? I thought it was a good first
30:04
game. They they gave a little bit, you
30:07
know, again, sometimes you also have to judge it against the
30:10
opponent. They only allowed 176 total
30:13
yards. They gave up one some somewhat
30:16
decent drive and that they scored on on you Albany and and
30:20
I I I think, you know, I would have liked to have seen a little
30:25
more pressure, you know, another turnover, you know, a turnover
30:28
or two. In some ways you got to respect
30:31
Albany for for at least not giving into that.
30:34
But you know, again, that the competition ramps up
30:37
significantly this week. I thought by and large they
30:40
played OK, but let's, let's see what they play against, against
30:43
a real offensive line, against one of the better quarterbacks
30:46
in the country. And you know, so I, I guess I'm
30:50
not saying it's an incomplete grade.
30:51
I thought they played well. But I also am kind of like given
30:55
an incomplete grade because of the the all that you're playing.
31:00
Yeah. Doc, you've been covering this
31:02
game for a long time and we've seen a few times where I was
31:05
stayed as had felt like an advantage coming in and I was
31:07
been able to find a way 2011 I think the biggest example of
31:10
that. But this Iowa State team looks
31:13
different than maybe anything we've seen in the Campbell era.
31:16
It's been, we're so used to the slow starts and really outside
31:19
of last year, it's kind of been a big talking point about Matt
31:21
Campbell's program. That's not the case here.
31:23
They have hit the ground running and they're playing at an
31:25
incredibly high level. Does that change the equation at
31:28
all for you just how well Iowa State's played going into this
31:31
game Saturday? A little bit because you can't
31:34
come away from watching Iowa State the first two weeks and
31:37
not be impressed to to play the way they did in Dublin against a
31:41
rivalry in a rival and in a ranked game.
31:45
And, and one that, you know, they had to make the right plays
31:48
at the right times to pull it out.
31:49
And they did. And then to come back and play
31:52
what I think is a pretty good FCS opponent and blow them out
31:55
the way they did you. And they looked like they took
31:58
the next step from game one to Game 2, which every coach talks
32:01
about, especially for developmental programs that you
32:04
make your most progress between 1:00 and 2:00.
32:06
And, and I think you saw that kind of growth too.
32:09
So I, I, you know, that to me is, is it's a little different
32:15
because Iowa State sometimes is, is trying to feel itself as it
32:18
goes into this game, you know, and, and, and I was all
32:21
generally in that position too. And in some respects, I think of
32:25
it as kind of the reverse of 2021 where Iowa played Indiana
32:29
right off the bat in a ranked battle and blew him out.
32:31
And it felt like they were in a better, you know, they were
32:34
really moving when they played Iowa State.
32:36
Their offense wasn't very good. Their defense was outstanding,
32:39
you know, but on the other side, not to completely rain on Iowa
32:43
here, their running game was pretty good.
32:46
And the offensive line did whatever it wanted to do in that
32:48
game. And and really the the sack,
32:51
there was one sack and it was just kind of a delayed blitz and
32:54
and the the guard was double team in the the nose and and it
32:57
kind of got through. And even then, Gronowski got the
32:59
ball off And this wasn't, you know, it's called kind of in the
33:02
grass. So I I think that in Iowa's
33:05
case, you know, that this is this isn't the worst thing in
33:09
the world to go in feeling like everybody's against you,
33:12
everybody's doubting you. Those kind of motivations always
33:14
work, especially in rivalry games.
33:16
And and I think in this case, you know, the people flex their
33:20
rivalry muscles in this game, match up a lot.
33:23
And and for Iowa, do they make that kind of progress?
33:26
Can Gronowski bounce back from that performance?
33:29
Because I do think they're a pretty physical team and they're
33:31
not just going to, you know, take a back seat and play really
33:35
poorly in this game. You.
33:36
What do you think or who do you think gets the nod as far as
33:41
running the football for Iowa? Xavier Williams was
33:43
unbelievable. I don't know the status of
33:45
Bolton. I don't know if anybody does at
33:48
this point, but Xavier Williams gets this opportunity.
33:50
My God, here we go again. You know that He's just not
33:55
that. He came out of nowhere, but I
33:56
don't think anybody expected him to have the day that he did.
34:00
No, you know, that that's somebody who is really is
34:05
really, you know, shown up a lot and everybody's talked about
34:08
significantly, but you just kind of wonder, you know, if that
34:12
translates. And yes, it did.
34:14
He's he's a guy that I didn't know he was that quick and
34:18
elusive. And you got those kind of, you
34:20
know, massive, strong legs to go along with it.
34:23
I mean, it's kind of Lashawn Daniels and but with a little
34:26
more quickness then. And that's something that, you
34:28
know, he's got a low center of gravity and he's got good speed.
34:31
So, you know, I would expect if if Tamari Moulton can't go or if
34:35
he's injured and is going to be used sparingly, that they move
34:39
right on to Xavier Williams. That was a tremendous opening
34:41
day performance and he showcased a lot.
34:43
But I think you'll also see, you know, the the least, you know,
34:47
two or three other running backs to go along with them.
34:50
I mean, TJ Washington's played well.
34:51
He's a little quicker back and you got to get him out there.
34:55
You know, Jazz Patterson, all he's done is is play hard and
34:57
play well every time he gets out there.
34:59
So I would expect those 3 for sure.
35:01
And if not Nathan McNeil, get some action, too.
35:04
Doc, of course, you're on the national scene now for college
35:06
football, and I saw that you wrote a little bit about
35:09
Alabama, Florida State, the Alabama side.
35:12
We touched on a little bit at the top of the Florida State
35:14
side. Does it just give hope to
35:16
everybody across the country? Look, they went 2 and 10 last
35:18
year after a 13 and no season the year previous.
35:21
Just how different college football is.
35:23
And you don't have to go through the muck for three years to
35:26
rebuild your program. You can do it incredibly quick,
35:28
quickly, as Florida State has shown.
35:31
I think it does if you're a blue blood caliber program that it
35:35
can happen really quick, especially in a game like that.
35:37
I mean, nobody was expecting after you, as you said, the
35:40
disaster the Florida State was, but they're only, you know, two
35:43
years removed from the 13 win season as well.
35:45
So they they fell apart early. They went to over to Dublin last
35:51
year, got beat and then just kind of fell apart And and now
35:55
you but you can change the vibe with the transfer portal.
35:57
You can get new players and exit, you know, of course, the
36:01
other ones out. And I think that is does give
36:03
people some hope, as does like in Indiana last year, you know,
36:06
being the losing this program in college football history and
36:09
then, you know, hiring the right coach, getting the right players
36:11
in the portal. So there are those success
36:13
stories. But but I I don't want to
36:15
minimize what they were able to do because they took it to
36:17
Alabama. They dominated the line of
36:19
scrimmage. I mean, Thomas Castellanos, you
36:21
know, through the, you know, the summer, yeah, he said all that
36:24
stuff and everybody's expecting, oh boy, this is going to be like
36:26
56 to 7. And no, they they dominated that
36:30
game. They're they're a good team.
36:31
So the ACC was a big winner this weekend with Miami and Florida
36:36
State pulling off those victories.
36:38
And if those two teams are playing well, then that really
36:42
makes the ACC look a lot different.
36:44
And, you know, Clemson lost a tough one, but you know, to LSU,
36:47
I think it's really good, too. So I think the ACC and the Big
36:50
10 are the two big winners after the first big opening weekend
36:53
of. Course the ACC is not done yet.
36:56
Doc, what do you expect to hear? What do you expect to see
36:58
tonight? North Carolina hosting TCU.
37:01
I don't know. I mean, you know TCU, I mean, if
37:04
you're sunny dykes, you're like, hey, why do I get these big high
37:07
profile openers? You had Dion the first time and
37:10
in his first game and now you get Bill Belichick.
37:11
And I think with, you know, I, I think everybody wants to see,
37:15
you know, is this North Carolina team going to be like, oh man,
37:19
they're, they're coming out playing like the, the Patriots
37:21
of yore with Tom and having success.
37:24
Or is this going to be, hey, that, that they've been one of
37:26
the more underachieving programs in, in well, history, Frank,
37:30
frankly, North Carolina. So, you know, are they going to
37:33
be able to get over that or not? I, I'm really interested to see
37:35
how that plays out. And, you know, I expect TCU to
37:39
be one of the better teams in the Big 12.
37:40
So, you know, really good game that to end this the weekend on
37:45
and especially because we just there's a lot of question marks
37:48
in North Carolina and I don't know if they'll all be answered,
37:50
but I think some of them will be.
37:51
No doubt you are you in the press box at Jack Trice on
37:54
Saturday. I am.
37:56
I will be there and I've already written some stuff that will
37:59
appear middle of the week and also doing some Kansas, Missouri
38:03
writing. As well, because it's a good
38:05
game. Absolutely, Kansas.
38:07
Looks good back. Yeah, I'm with you, Doc.
38:09
Great stuff. Thank you for doing this.
38:11
Appreciate it as always. We'll reach out to you for next
38:13
Monday. Thank you, Scott.
38:14
All right. Thanks so much.
38:15
Yeah, good to talk to Scott Dockerman from The Athletic as
38:18
we check in on college football. And it didn't sugarcoat when it
38:21
comes to Gronowski. No.
38:22
How can you? There's nothing.
38:24
You lose all credibility if you try.
38:27
It's quarter before 1. Miller and Condon talking sports
38:29
with you. Thanks for being with us on your
38:31
Labor Day. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
38:32
Network. Hi, Miller.
38:45
Condon final couple of minutes, hour number one, Bama, Bob,
38:48
Trent and I on college football. To kick off the second hour,
38:51
Bill Seals covers Iowa State, 1:30 for Bill cyclonereport.com.
38:56
Week 1 high school football also in the books now that by the
38:59
looks of the scoreboard, you had a dinner on Friday night.
39:02
Valley and Dowling. Those two teams seldom
39:05
disappoint. close game? Was it as close as a scoreboard
39:09
or what'd you take away? Yeah, absolutely, Roberts, the
39:12
transfer from Ames that's committed die with State, the
39:15
wide receiver for Darling. Yeah, he's fast.
39:18
He's super fast. He had an 80 yard touchdown in
39:21
the game. He was tremendous.
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Valley played a little bit most of the second-half without their
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quarterback, Drake Degroote, who is a featured BearCat of
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Northwest Missouri State. Really good athlete, good
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quarterback. How tall?
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Probably 6-1. Is there a?
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Chance he might is that somebody might come calling.
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I don't know, you know, in terms of arm strength that that's such
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a difficult thing to see in terms of athleticism.
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Moving his feet. They had a 3rd 19 from the 22 in
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the third quarter. He scrambled for a touchdown on
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3rd 19 for a touchdown. He is a tremendous athlete
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through it. Pretty well.
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They survived but it's 29/20/17 late Valley took a safety inside
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a 2 minutes left. They were backed up at their own
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2 yard line and then the defense made the plays down this
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stretch, but there was an odd 1 so.
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They're trying to attempt a field goal.
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No, it didn't even get to that point but looked like they're
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going to be very close to running out the clock.
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A flag came and I was like well is my timeout called because the
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clock stopped apparently I heard afterwards the penalty was for a
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kid. Didn't have his mouth guard in
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and so allowed Dowling to get the ball back.
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Weren't able to do anything with it, but we saw a.
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Penalty last night when the guy lost his hat and continued on in
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the play. And what's the kid doing?
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We're going to see Valley Dowling again at the I hope so
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too. I don't think it's going to be a
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big stretch that both those teams and maybe we've seen in
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the semifinals a couple of times.
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I'll see maybe for all the marbles, but SE folks going to
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have something to say with that. Plenty of other teams as well,
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but a good one to kick off the season.
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Pam and on the chains I. Didn't even.
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Oh, come. On it's on the other side of the
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field, my binoculars. I got to look at the players.
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I completely forgot about that. The chain crew, Yes.
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The chain gang, Yeah. I forgot about that, I'll have
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to take a peek next time I'm out there at Valley.
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I got to go see him this week. So awesome.
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We will be back in our number two more college football to get
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opportunities. They start tomorrow, but we'll
41:18
get Bill and pick his brain on what he saw, just a dominating,
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dominating performance over South Dakota.
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