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Leo Zagami | Andrew Collins | Brad Olsen · Ryder Lee

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H h h h h. Andrew Collins, it's good to see you again.
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And Jesus chat last year and I've been trying to get you on my
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show for a minute. But you're a busy man. You're doing all kinds
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of stuff, writing books, doing all kinds of filming and all that.
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What's your what's your latest adventure? What are you getting into now? Well,
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uh, it's basically go back to Pie and it's sister saw it car
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Hner Pie. You know, these are the biggest archaeological discoveries of the last
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thirty odd years and they're changing everything to do with what we understand about the
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past and about the development of civilization immediately after the Last Ice Age. But
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more than that, it's telling us that these people that were living as much
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as eleven to eleven and a half thousand years ago were incredibly sophisticated, not
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just in technology and innovation, but also in cosmology, you know, in
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other words, their understanding of the universe and their understanding of the evolution of
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the universe, you know, so called cosmogony, and that they reflected this
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in the different carved statues, the relief on stones, and it shows that
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you know, they had not just an understanding of the stars, you know,
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and represented them in a way which you find in much later cultures like
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the Sumerians, Bolonians, the Egyptians. But they looked like they had an
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understanding of a creation myth where they believed in some kind of prime ordial state
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existing in the universe prior to the creation of a material universe. And it's
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something which indigenous cultures today. In Turkey, which is where both Gabecti Tepe
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and Krahan are, you're referred to as the cosmic ocean, you know,
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but it's primordial. It's chaotic, but not in a sort of disarminous way,
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but it's like unfold and you know, it's out of this that emerges
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the physicality, the order of the universe as a whole. And this is
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there, this is there in their symbolism. And yet where did these people
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get these ideas from. You know, this is eleven thousand years ago at
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a time when they were just supposed to be hunter gatherers doing their own thing,
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provided for their family, maybe a larger social group, but you know,
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these people are incredibly advanced. Now, Okay, you could say,
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well, maybe you're talking about lost civilization here, you know, one that
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existed prior to the end of the Last Ice Age. And it may be
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the case, but I think it's more a case of our lost past.
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We've got an episode of human humanity's you know, history that's completely blank to
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us, and we're only for the first time now beginning to understand just how
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complex the minds of these people of the past were. It's interesting when you
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say advanced, right, because I think that it's a high possibility that a
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lot of these ancient civilizations that we call advanced were advanced, but advanced in
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a different way than we are now, you know what I mean, Like,
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it's not because we're in like a technological is We're going down like a
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very different path. And if we were to go back, I don't know,
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let's say ten thousand years and looked around, and don't think that people's
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thought an idea of what would have been advanced back then is the type of
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advance that we would get Now? Does Does that make sense? It does?
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And I mean I think that one of the problems is that a lot
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of people look towards let's say, what was going on at Quebeca Tepe eleven
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thousand years ago and put our mindset in that place. You know, to
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them, it's just a place of you know, people living. There's a
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couple of communal buildings that they would get together on a Saturday night to have
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a dance and maybe you know, to celebrate life and maybe death. That's
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it. That's their vision of what these people were up to. And yeah,
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you've got to look at these people as shamans, you know, into
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animism, you know, the idea that animals represent the powers and the consciousness
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and the intelligences of not just nature, but the cost as a whole.
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And you know, these people, if we looked upon them, we think
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that they were completely bonkers. I mean, you know, they would probably
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be covered in you know, pain and you know, hair dreaded up,
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and you know that they would look craze. They would look like, you
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know that the most crazy shamans that you could expect from somewhere like Siberia or
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Mongolia. But they were together. They had it that together, and they
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had a connection, a deep connection with the cosmos, which we for the
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most part of lost. I mean, all right, I think we're understanding
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it from the perspective of science. But they had this deep connection, and
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this is something that doesn't just come overnight. This must have taken them thousands,
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if not tens of thousands of years to reach this state of mind.
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So you're right that you know they're advanced, but they're advanced in the mind,
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and I see it as almost like a shamanic seviliation of the mind.
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Basically, I don't see them as having created huge, great cities like Atlantis.
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You know, and this I think is used by a lot of people
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as a you know, almost like a scapegoat to try and explain loss civilizations.
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Oh well, you know, they probably came from Atlantis, but we
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haven't even found Atlantis, so how is that possible. I've written a book
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on Atlantis. I explained how the whole story came about, and I give
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the best candidates for where it was, and I think it was in the
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Bahamas and the Caribbean, but there's still no huge evidence of lost cities and
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things like that there. I think the stories were based on that area of
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the world, but it's not enough. It's not enough to use that as
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a get out clause for loss civilizations. In my opinion, you don't need
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Atlantis. In my opinion. You know, it's a misnomer. It's a
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sacred cow that in many ways I think we have to discard. I agree,
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absolutely, and that's why I like your work a lot. You're really
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downe on earth and you give different perspectives on that are contrary to what a
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lot of people think. And it's also interesting way when you think of like
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medieval times and like, because a lot of people are like, well,
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how did this history get lost? How did all this that want? I
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mean, there's things that are written about to this very day that people have
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never heard of. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that you
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know. I mean if you look at medieval times and how cities were conquered
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and things were just burned to the ground. I mean, you got the
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big thing that everyone talks about, the Library of Alexandria, all being burned
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to the ground. And I'm like, well, there were how many people
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were writing about certain things like way back thousands of years ago that never seen
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the light of day because their city or their town was completely destroyed or burned
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to the ground lively, I mean, that's the and then people are like,
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oh, well, you know, why hasn't this technology resurfaced, this
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highly advanced technolo. Well, I'm like, well, if you won,
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if you kill all the people that know how to do the technology, Like,
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let's say it right now, that a nuclear bomb just drops right now,
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you know, how long would it take to rebuild back to where we
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are now? It would take a really long time. It would take a
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long time because not only are you're getting rid of all the people that know
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how to do things right. You get rid of all the people, the
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architecture people. You get rid of the people that know how to build building.
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It's like, I don't know how to do any of that stuff.
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I don't know how to work on a car, right, But if you
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eliminate all those people, then people don't know how to do anything. So
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then you get lost and then you get stranded in like time, and then
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it takes time for people to figure that out. Absolutely yeah. And I
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mean, you know, let's say you're on a desert island. You know,
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you're a stranded on a desert island. You know, even if you
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had your phones, how long would they last? And when they you know,
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when they're exhausted of charge, they're worthless. You might as well just
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use them as a weapon. You know, how many people know how to
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build a phone out? Do you know how to build a phone? To
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build a fire? That usually end up burning myself or something. But no,
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I mean, okay, look, there's lots of periods of the past
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where there've been so called dark ages. You know, it happened in Britain
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after the Romans left. You know that there was a collapse of society,
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or certainly for the most part. I mean, there was a few,
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you know, little enclaves that continued on and tried to retain the Roman style
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of life. And for a while they did. But then you get invaders,
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the Saxons, the Angles, the Juts, all the rest of it,
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come into Britain and they take over the place. They trash the whole
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place, and so much is lost. I mean that's just one example.
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I mean, you think what happened with the Mongol Mongol Empire, you know,
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careering right the way across you know, Asia into Europe, as far
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as as places like Spain, you know, just trashing everything, killing everybody
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along the way exactly. I mean, how much was lost during that.
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I mean, okay, I'm not putting the whole Mongol thing down, because
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they had quite a good system of living. But you know how much was
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lost of cultures and how much is lost through religion. How much was lost
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for instance, when the Mayer you know, had to give all their books
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to the Catholic priests that were then put on a fire. You know just
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what type of knowledge was lost at that time. Again, these are just
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a few minor examples. But having said that, you also can't use this
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as an excuse to say why we haven't got evidence of a lot of civilization,
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because unfortunately, you know, my colleague Graham Hancock recently was on Joe
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Rogan and there was the Flint Flint Flint Dibble. I actually really enjoyed it.
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I thought that it was a good show. I didn't necessarily enjoy it,
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but I just felt I had to watch it. And the reason why
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I watched it I know what Graham has to say. I could virtually write
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his books for him sometimes, but I wanted to know what Flint Dibble would
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come up and say, well, you know, Howard he knock down Graham
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Hancock's views, which by the way, I agree with for the most part,
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not all, but for the most part. And there were certain things
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that he said to try and knock down the idea of a lot of civilization.
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He said, for instance, that you know, if there was a
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global seafaring nation, let's say map the world in you know, the time
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of the last Ice Age, where are their boats? You know, the
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seas the mad preserves boats, so why haven't we found them? Therefore they
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can't exist. And yet, you know, recently it was revealed that the
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people on Cyprus will go back at least thirteen to forteen thousand years and there
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were huge settlements building up there of thousands of people, which would have necessitated
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maritime journeys from you know, the mainland of Turkey to Cypress to bring all
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these people over. To create these all these settlements, thousands of people,
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they must have had sea going vessels. We haven't found those. So you
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can't use that as an excuse to say that a global seafaring culture didn't exist.
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If we haven't found the boats of these guys who came over from the
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Turkish mainland to Cypress thirteen forty thousand years ago, we haven't. I mean,
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the oldest boats that we've got probably they to the Mesolithic Age, so
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they're probably about six seven thousand years old, and yet we know people,
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you know, we're crossing vast seas to get to other locations, whether it
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be in the Mediterranean, whether it be in places like you know, the
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Micronesia. Sulawesi, for instance, is beyond this huge trench that you have
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to cross to get to the island to the Way Sea, which is in
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west Sorry that's credit to this. I can't remember anyway, it's in island
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Southeast Asia. But you know people were doing it. They weren't just doing
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it fourteen thousands of years ago, they were doing it one hundred and fifty
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thousand years ago. So where all these vessels gone? You know, if
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the mud preserves these vessels, why haven't we found them? And the answer
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is that we just haven't searched enough. We probably will find them eventually.
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So that is a good retort to what Flint Debble said in this example and
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where Graham Hancock is saying like, well, you know, we're just not
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searching enough or not in the right place, or it's true, it's absolutely
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true. Yeah, That's what I liked about what Graham Hancock was seeing because
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fun was like, yeah, we've explored this area and then Graham's like,
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well, how much of that area have you explored to explored all of it,
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excavated all of it. And he's like, no, we haven't,
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maybe like five percent of it. And I was like, yeah, well
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that means that makes sense. But they're trying to put a definite answer on
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something that has only been explored a little bit. They don't find any evidence
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where they think that they should be finding evidence, so therefore it doesn't exist.
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But then it's like, well, what if like people just stopped existing
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in this reality. Let's just say we all just like disappeared off of the
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planet that we're on or this realm or whatever you want to call it that
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we're on right in the simulation or whatever people wanted to call it, How
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long would it take for everything that we've built to just completely erode and just
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completely collapse. I don't think that it would take that long. It probably
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wouldn't. And there is a theory none as the delirium hypothesis, and it's
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just putting forward ideas that if there had been some kind of advance intelligence,
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you know, beings whatever, where they were like us, whether they were
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you know, another species existed on Earth in the distant past. We're talking
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possibly millions of years. What evidence would we look for? You know,
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we'd have to you know, find evidence of burning carbon and stuff like this,
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different chemicals, and because there wouldn't be anything else, so all you
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could look for is patterns in the chemicals of the rocks. That's all that
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would be left. And this is a great idea. I like the idea
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that scientists are discussing something like this because what they're saying, as you rightly
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just pointed out there, is that it would take very little time for all
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of it to disappear. I mean, I suppose things like you know,
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radiation through let's say, nuclear explosions, that's going to take many, many
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thousands of years. But how long does let's say concrete exist, or how
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long would granite you know, let's say and dressed block cone of a building
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or something. How long would that last? I mean, clearly many thousands
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of years. But would it last millions of years? No, it wouldn't.
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Brod welcome back to the show. It's good to see my friend.
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Great to be back Rider, Thanks for having me on. Yeah, we
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just I just listened to your presentation yesterday on giants really fascinating. What I
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found most interesting about it was these big megalithic what looked like sarcophagus sarcopha kai
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and that might be the proper word for it, but that are found like
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everywhere. And I was, well, and that's kind of been a big
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mystery of like what are these things used for? What are they doing?
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You know, they're they're huge, they weigh tons, they're super heavy.
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How did they get them where they are? Right? That's the big mystery,
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especially as far as the plane of jars and laos which were funerary secondary
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burial tombs, and sarcophaguy that in toomb, the stacked bones around the jars,
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and then you have in Sakara down in the below underground chambers these APIs
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bull they say were put in those, but really more of sarcophagi or the
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burial of the pharaohs and their wives and these giant, huge outer burial structures
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and sarcophagus And to me, they don't they wouldn't put a normal sized person
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in a two or three times bigger sarcopha guy, So to me, it
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just says that these were made and built for giants. Well, there's been
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a lot of theory and speculation on what they were used for. I think
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some people think they were used for like an early deprivation type of regenative old
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school technology or something along those lines. Yep. That's one theory that we
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talked about on the Ancient Archaeology panel just now that we're still playing ketchup to
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try to find what kind of initiation chambers they could have been or used frequency
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in such a way that you could have had a different state of consciousness that
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could have pervaded through there. For example, inside the King's chamber the Great
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Pyramid, there's a big granite sarcophagus, and nobody knows exactly what it was
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used for, but it had to have been built into the structure of the
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pyramid itself because it's too big to go through the chambers. So obviously the
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builders of the pyramid were using it for something, and not too likely that
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it was a king's burial, but that people would lay in there and have
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an initiation And the proof of that is that when they were first excavating and
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taking samples out of the Great Pyramid, the nineteenth century archaeologist Howard Wece was
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finding this fine white powder around that sarcophagus in the King's chamber. He had
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the presence of mind of collecting it and storing it, and they kept it
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in the British Museum for some years until somebody had the presence of mind to
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do a test and they found out it had traces of monotomic gold that came
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through the pores. So during an initiation ceremony through the sweat, you had
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this monotomic gold that came out. That's really interesting. Do we know when
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Egypt was first excavated, Like when was the first like modern day excavation of
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Egypt, Because a lot of these sarcopha sarcophaguses, sarcofacuses sound really strange to
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say. I think it's SIRCROPHICAI pretty sure, a SARCROPHICAI. A lot of
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them. There was nothing in them when they were found. But at the
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same time, that doesn't mean that somebody else previous to any early excavation didn't
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find something in them, because there was grave robbers. There was all kinds
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of people that were around at that time. They would go through and scavage
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sure, and you know, try and find artifacts and find things. And
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I'm just curious of when that was first excavated in like modern times. You
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say modern times. Yeah, of course, there have been many, many
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centuries of tomb raiders, and they broke into the Great Pyramid by blasting through
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some of the blocks to get into the Grand Gallery and then into the inner
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chambers. But in modern time since they've been able to get in there eighteenth
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and nineteenth century, So anytime you had a colonial masters such as the British,
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they took a whole bunch of stuff back to Britain. Napoleon spent a
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night in the Great Pyramid, came out white faced and wouldn't talk about his
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experience. But they took back a whole bunch of artifacts, including the Rosetta
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Stone, which helped Champion interpret and decipher the hieroglyphs of ancient Egypt. So
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there have just been successive generations of archaeologists, but before then it was really
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just fortune hunters and the Arabs. When they took over the area in the
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Middle Ages, they had to go at it, and probably all the way
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back to the ancient Greeks were taking back artifacts because it's a very old civilization
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in ancient Egypt, not centuries, but actually millennia, thousands of years of
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culture has been deposited in the tombs and the architecture of ancient Egypt, and
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then old school archaeology used to kind of just be a private collection. It
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was like a whole thing of like a bunch of private collectors of people.
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That's how it was kind of like traded like back then. So knows what
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those private collectors still have. And this went through all those generations of people,
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and then now people don't really know where it came from because the story
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has kind of been lost. Yeah, and that's very unfortunate because when somebody
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just goes there to collect and they didn't do the proper documentation about those artifacts,
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and then all the years later they're rediscovered, there's just no history or
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record of where they came from. So many of them are just trophies or
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prize items that you might find on someone's mantlepiece, but really they're a thousand
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year old artifacts. That's wow. What is the official explanation from Egyptologists?
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Because I know that you've been in Egypt, right, You've you've been inside
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of the pyramid? What is the official explanation that they use to explain away
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these sarcophaga? Well, they say, for an example, the King's chamber
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sarcophagus was a tomb i laid in it. It's made for a person under
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six feet, so my knees got bent. You and I are tall,
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raised by giants, you'd have to bend your knees. But there is a
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resonance when you're in there, a frequency that certainly emanates, and you could
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see how it would been used for initiation chambers. Then many of the other
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ones, such as underneath the or the the serapeum it's called underneath the step
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pyramid at Sakara. Well, those are big granite boxes too, where they
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say the APIs bulls were buried or worshiped, but they've never found any remains
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of bulls. But they all have casings on top, and there's over a
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dozen of them. So maybe people were doing group ceremony or doing group meditations
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and perhaps amplifying their mental thought their sigh abilities, and being accentuated by being
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directly underneath the step pyramid at Takara. It's so interesting because on one hand
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they say that they were used for burial, and then on the other hand
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they say that no bodies have ever been found in this circoplica. It's wild.
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I don't really do they understand what they're saying there, like it doesn't
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make any sense. Average person. Leo Zagami, it's nice to meet you.
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It's good to meet you, my friend. I'm pretty familiar with your
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work. But I think since we're contacting the desert, and this is the
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first interview in a long time that I'm doing with sunglasses, and not because
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I have some bizarre figure by eye, because this is because we're outside out
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sounds out sunglasses are it's hot. People will say that you're trying to that
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you don't want your penal gland activated, so that's why you're wearing sunglasses.
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You No, No, it's just because it'sn't shining here. And I live
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here all year around, so I know how it is. It's only the
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start of a hellish summer. It was about to give super but I'm promoting
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right here at the start of this hellish summer book, which is Volume ten
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of My Confessions, which is Islamic Freemasonry and the Secret Society is behind the
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eternal conflict in the Middle East, which is actually finally giving some results with
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the project that I started right at the start of this conflict between Hamas and
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Israel reality started the week before. But then I thought that is a sign
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of desk. I need to finish this book before the summer. And it's
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a book that basically discusses a subject very rarely touched because we always talk about
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the illuminatia as a Western phenomena. We talk about, of course, the
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Jewish element within it. We talk about groups like World Economic Forum, but
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this book actually shows also the Maslim side of the World Economic Forum, and
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it starts with an alliance between the Western and there of course Middle Eastern counterparts,
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which goes back almost a thousand years, which started with the Nice Templars
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and the Order of Ashachines, which was also this Islamic order that has inspired
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the Templars and inspired the Vatican that up until the Crusades didn't really embrace the
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concept of Holy war. So paradoxically, the Crusades were actually a product of
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what the Muslims had made as an inspiration for them the Body and went to
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the Middle It so that this religion was expanding so fast they could become a
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threat to their own territories, arriving really very close to Rome at one point,
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and they decided to counteract the whole thing by that in these Cruisades,
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that intelory should have producted. Also the pilgrims now going to the Holy Land,
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but they didn't have the concept of sacrificing themselves for the Bible. Nobody
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really had this concept of holy war. Yet it was picked up by the
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Muslims. So nowadays we have these Muslims that say, ah, the crusadecus
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is the Cruisade. But the Cuisades were actually inspired by them. There was
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never in Christianity up until the ten of the millennium and then later on the
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beginning of the Crusades, the necessity for fighting a holy war in the name
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of Jesus. Jesus was a man of peace, was a man of peace
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who preferred to embrace the enemy, or rather debating in words rather than with
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the guns or sorry back then with swords, swords and spars and spears.
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So instead we find completely turning up the events. And then in my book
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I explained how the next Temples and the West Illuminati. From that moment Almos
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took advantage of the divisions in Islam, the division between Sunni and Shia.
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The Ashushins were Shia and Izari against the Sunni. Sgork, Turks and Saladin
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that were advancing the Tempers. Founded the ideal cigar is the ideal killers.
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They could employ it to kill leaders of the opposite faction without without being blamed,
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because you know, you are supposed to be some kind of holy warrior
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if you worked for the pope. So they didn't want to be involved in
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assassination squad plausible deniability. Yeah, so they just blamed. So they just
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have these Muslims to blame, which were basically a faction of Islam that hated
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the Sunni anyway, but the initiations were also part of the soul thing.
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The denunciations of the Ashachins were also very important because they came from a lodge
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which initiated in Cairo from the time of the Fatimid dynasty. And so my
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book really goes back even further than that to the very beginning of Islam to
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explain how Islam was born. And there is the Christian origins of Islams that
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people don't know about it because the cousin of the first wife of Muhammed,
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who was also this rich woman, this old widower, was a Christian ebb
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Unite. Now the ebb Unites are today almost unknown by the majority of people.
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But the mbi Unites were a Jewish Christian sect that of course didn't recognize
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the divinity of Jesus, and that's why in the Quran Jesus not recognized as
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a god. He's recognized as a prophet. But the important thing is to
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know history, because history repeats itself, and so furs and years later we
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have these people nine to eleven doing exactly the same thing they used to do
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the airs of the templars, the Freemasons like Bush, employing the ash machines
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from the Muslim world, from Egypt to carry on something that would destabilize the
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world. This is really about the inside out job on nine eleven, which
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is also part of the mega ritual of nine eleven, which I described in
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my book talking about the pet Goat ritual and Bush being there with these kids
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reading this very particular book that in a way was read when he already knew
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they were bombing left, right and center everything. But he kept his calm
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because he was of course part of the directors of this film that wasn't folding
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on America, this film that changed forever the history of the United States,
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you know, and the nowadays that we are in the yetal and twenty four
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with the Middle Easter, that is highly ballatile. With the situation which is
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increasingly showing us that these fractures that were established maybe one thousand years ago even
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earlier with the Shia Muslims are still ongoing. But at the same time we
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also understand that the United Muslim War is coming together even with groups that before
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that were divided. Why because the West doesn't have any more the interests to
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divide the templars in the West and have the interest to divide them. And
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at the same time you have Russian China which are unifying the France, even
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between countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia with the Economic Bricks project, which some
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say even led to the death of the president of Iran, but because that's
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what they're saying. But at the same time, we can also confirm that
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Iran has always had, since the Iranian Revolution nineteen seventy nine, a very
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special role in the Middle East. They are the biggest Shia country. The
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Shia religion, Shiai religion, it's a minority within Islam, but it is
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the minority that started this form of Jiadism a thousand years ago with the Shachines.
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They were the ones who started then in the sixties and seventies of the
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nineteen sixties nineteen seventies. While here in the West we had a bunch of
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comedies in the universities with the Red Book of Mao and all the bs,
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you had them also in the Middle East, but that merged together with the
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clerics and their pills, a new innovative, new innovative version of his languages,
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going back into the Middle Ages. Basically, it's nothing new innovative about.
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It's just bringing back the clock. And so I ran that was ruled
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from the nineteen fifties after the Caa coup by freemasonry and the Pavlavi dynasty suddenly
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was ruled by the clerics starting from a Yeto la Komeini. And in my
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new book, I also showed the testimony that has never been discussed here in
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America about Memetaliaksha, the guy who attempted to kid jump for the second who
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basically confirms that the guy who employed him to kill the pope was Ayotola Komeni.
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He went to run for training m So it's very rich this book in
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information, it's gaining momentum, and it's getting momentum of course not only in
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the Zotelic ancient knowledge circles, but also in the Islamic circles, reaching the
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top of the Islamic social statist chat on Amazon Islamic History. And I think
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that it's important though for the Western world to finally understand that the Illuminati informationary
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were actually born in the Middle East. With everything that this implies, how
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far back does that go, Like, what's the timeline on that, When
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was the first mention of an Illuminati? Does that tie back to then further
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back than a nice templar? Yeah, absolutely, doing the nice template become
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for the Western world the illuminated that bring back that knowledge because you see the
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Illuminati go back to the Niosticks that came after Jesus, that started with all
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their herisis and their practices that were in the etical and eventually would be eliminated
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by the Church fathers with the high criticism with persecution. Even so, thenios
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sticks were the original illuminai because the Niosticks were also the ones the pository of
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all that knowledge that came from ancient Sumeria. Ancient Mesopotamia and win Islam start
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spreading in Persia, which is ancient Mesopotamia, they act inevitably formed some kind
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of compromise with the pre existing Illuminadi that were there. That's why we have
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two important centers of the Mazrim Illuminad in the ancient world, which is prior
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even to the Nice Temple Cairo, and then also Baghdad, though they were
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competing, and the one was then manifested in the House of Knowledge that became
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a very important university. And then in Baghdad there was the House of Wisdom,
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which basically brought us back everything that we had lost during the Dark Ages
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in Europe, bringing back all the philosophic culture from ancient Greece, thermatic everything
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that will eventually manifest in the Renaissance. The Renaissance is a product. That's
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why ultimately the Renaissance will manifest. There was a Crusians as the ultimate you
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know, so the illuminatio back to ancient Egypt, ancient Mesopodamia, go back
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to Alexandria, to Memphis. When it comes down to Egypt, go back
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to the city of Iran, which was founded by the merchants of Or,
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which is now in present day huarchy. The ruins of it but Ran was
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basically the city of this group.