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RHORI EXCLUSIVE with Kelsey Swanson · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, Rain drives on today's episode of
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Speaker 1: is my Forred.
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Speaker 2: Britt new show that is on television let alone Bravo.
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Speaker 2: This show is in its season premiere. When I say
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Speaker 2: to you, as the former producer of The Real Housewahson,
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Speaker 2: New Jersey, I must say, is giving me Jersey vibes.
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Speaker 2: And obviously that's the biggest compliment in the world because
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Speaker 2: it is the house that Teresa Judice Bill. So we
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Speaker 2: are talking about the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, and
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Speaker 2: of course I have to chat with the talk of
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Speaker 2: the town, of the island and of the neighborhoods. So
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Speaker 2: give it up for the beautiful Kelsey.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. How are you good, so far,
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Speaker 3: so good as this season Sun Roblin.
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Speaker 2: Did you think for a second, Kelsey that look, obviously
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Speaker 2: you've heard of Housewives. I'm sure you watched the couple,
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Speaker 2: But did you think that Rhode Island was going to
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Speaker 2: be a show where congrats on the massive rating success,
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Speaker 2: congrats on it being number one on Peacock almost every
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Speaker 2: week it seems like, and I mean, this show is
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Speaker 2: so damn good. So are you surprised by the world
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Speaker 2: loving it so much?
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Speaker 3: To be honest, now, I'm not surprised. I think the
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Speaker 3: rest of the Rhode Islanders were surprop or had high
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Speaker 3: expectations and didn't think that it would be a success.
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Speaker 3: But somehow, like deep in my heart, not even that
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Speaker 3: in my heart, I just like it just like clicked, like,
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Speaker 3: oh mean this is gonna be good. There's no way
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Speaker 3: it can't be.
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Speaker 2: How did you wind up being cast for the show? So?
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Speaker 3: I was recommended by one of my photographer friends because
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Speaker 3: at the beginning it was being pitched for as like
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Speaker 3: a big Italian family reality TV show, and my boyfriend
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Speaker 3: at the time is Italian, has a big Italian family.
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Speaker 3: They were looking for people with like bougie lifestyles, So
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Speaker 3: I hit all those boxes and eventually it was like
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Speaker 3: almost two years of casting, I would say, before it
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Speaker 3: landed on TV. And so for me, I was hit
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Speaker 3: right at the beginning. So I went through the entire
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Speaker 3: process of like video call after video call after zoom
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Speaker 3: call after interview, and it was just kind of like
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Speaker 3: dragged along the entire time before it was actually on TV.
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Speaker 2: Did you watch any other housewives prior to joining and so, like,
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Speaker 2: what was your favorite one? Who are like your favorite housewive? Gurlees?
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Speaker 2: I have to know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I watched OG New Jersey. I grew up
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Speaker 3: on that and Orange County and then I kind of
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Speaker 3: just stopped watching TV in general. But like you know,
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Speaker 3: on TikTok, you're scroll and you feel like you get
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Speaker 3: the highlights, like you're still watching it without actually having
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Speaker 3: to sit there and put it on your TV. So
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Speaker 3: New Jersey has always been my favorite, and I like
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Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, but I don't watch any housewives now, and
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Speaker 3: I think I loved that way.
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Speaker 2: So you're good. You're good. You're good because I think
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Speaker 2: about you that I love so much. Kelsey. You are
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Speaker 2: super authentic. I mean, you let it all out in
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Speaker 2: the first episode. And one of the questions that I
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Speaker 2: have because again I'm a former er of Atlanta Housewives.
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Speaker 2: I did Jersey as well, So I always am fascinated
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Speaker 2: by the process because I know all about the process.
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Speaker 2: So you mentioned earlier how when the casting process took place,
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Speaker 2: it was supposed to be like big Italian families, you know,
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Speaker 2: living the lifestyle. Did your boyfriend at the time, right,
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Speaker 2: did he support you joining housewives or when he learned
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Speaker 2: that this was going to be housewives, did he say, oh,
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Speaker 2: I can't be a part of this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So when I was did my first initial on
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Speaker 3: camera like zoom call, I was like, hey, I'm like,
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Speaker 3: tell my boyfriend, I just need you for like an hour.
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Speaker 3: Just put on like a button down and like get
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Speaker 3: in front of this camera. He's like, what are we doing?
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Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know. It's just like potentially like
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Speaker 3: a TV show about I don't know, Italian families. So
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Speaker 3: he's like all right. So he got on for a
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Speaker 3: couple of minutes and I had the lights set up,
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Speaker 3: I had my housekeeper come on, I mean everyone was
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Speaker 3: talking in front of the Camera's daughter ended up like
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Speaker 3: coming on to say hello. So it was this big thing,
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Speaker 3: and then as the months went on, we still didn't
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Speaker 3: know necessarily it was a Housewives, but at one point
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Speaker 3: some one of the producers was like, or the casting
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Speaker 3: agents was like, you know think housewives, think like bougie,
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Speaker 3: And it was at that moment I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think this is a Housewives. When it was a Housewives.
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Speaker 3: My boyfriend was like, yeah, no, I'm good. I'm not
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Speaker 3: gonna be on it, but he loves He's more of
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Speaker 3: a Reality the Housewives junkie than I am that watches
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Speaker 3: reality TV loves housewives, but he was just like, I
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Speaker 3: know what happened to the significant others on this show,
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Speaker 3: and I'm not subjecting myself to this. So he was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm excited for you, but I'm out, And I told
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Speaker 3: producers I'm like, listen, he's not gonna go. He doesn't
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Speaker 3: want to come on it. He's very supportive of me,
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Speaker 3: but he's not going to show him to his face.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be on it, and everyone, I
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Speaker 3: think in the world needs to respect that some people
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Speaker 3: have different priorities and don't want to be on TV.
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Speaker 2: You know, did you were you worried that that was
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Speaker 2: going to jeopardize your chance of being cast for the show.
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Speaker 2: Knowing that he wanted nothing to do with.
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Speaker 3: That, I was a little nervous, and producers tried really
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Speaker 3: hard to get him on, and they were trying hard
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Speaker 3: just to even get a photo, like for him to
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Speaker 3: sign off on a photo, which I knew in the
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Speaker 3: world of social media that the slew would find him
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Speaker 3: in about three seconds. I don't think he cared that
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Speaker 3: people would find him online. He's just like, when you
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Speaker 3: sign off and you let anybody use whatever you want
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Speaker 3: about your name, it's just like I can't subject myself
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Speaker 3: to that. So I don't blame him for it, but
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Speaker 3: I was at the same time hoping that he would
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Speaker 3: at least make like one appearance.
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Speaker 2: Do you think his lack of participation knowing that he
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Speaker 2: was going to be a housewife led to your breakup
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Speaker 2: with him?
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Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, that had nothing to do with it.
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Speaker 3: I think it was years. The last two years. It
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Speaker 3: was on my brain, like the forefront of my brain,
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Speaker 3: because that was when I met my other boyfriend, bill Or,
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Speaker 3: who I started seeing along the way. I wouldn't necessarily
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Speaker 3: say I was also dating him. It was just he
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Speaker 3: was the other person who I would see maybe you know,
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Speaker 3: once a week. So it wasn't like too full on
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Speaker 3: relationships at the same time, because you.
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Speaker 2: Know, that's the perception we got because the game, watching.
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Speaker 3: The show and the super baby and everything else is
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Speaker 3: a Yeah, it wasn't.
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Speaker 2: Does it bother you that people refer to you as
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Speaker 2: a sugar baby or do you a real life? Like
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Speaker 2: in real talk? Do you just own it? Because obviously
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Speaker 2: it's like, look, I was with the guy who took
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Speaker 2: care of me for ten years, lived in his house.
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Speaker 2: He's a snow bunny, right, he likes to be in
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Speaker 2: Miami during the off season, Meaning you know when it's
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Speaker 2: winter in Rhode Island. Do you own that that was
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Speaker 2: your lifestyle or do you feel like that's a word
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Speaker 2: that you do not accept?
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Speaker 3: So if I am something, I don't lie about it.
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Speaker 3: I was not a sugar baby. There was nothing transactional
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Speaker 3: about my relationship with him. We loved each other, he
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Speaker 3: just we just at some point had an open relationship.
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Speaker 3: But it wasn't like, oh, you know, you're going to
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Speaker 3: give me sex and I'm going to give you this
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Speaker 3: life like, No, that's not what it was. We were
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Speaker 3: in an actual relationship, and people aren't understanding that when
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Speaker 3: he left. So when those five winter months from January
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Speaker 3: to May, when he was in Miami, we would see
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Speaker 3: each other every three weeks. We were always traveling. I
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Speaker 3: would either go down there or we would got we
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Speaker 3: we would travel almost the whole month of January in
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Speaker 3: Asia and spend my birthday there. So it was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: he may have gone down January first, but then I'd
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Speaker 3: see him three weeks later, and then I see him
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Speaker 3: in February, and then I see him in March. But
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Speaker 3: where his home base was during those months was just
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Speaker 3: in Florida.
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Speaker 2: When was the last time you had communication with him?
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Speaker 3: We're friends, we talk I think I talked to him
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Speaker 3: last week.
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Speaker 2: How does he feel about good?
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Speaker 3: We have a good relationship or friends? We're cordial. He's
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Speaker 3: you know, he checks in every once in a while
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Speaker 3: for the show to see how everything's going. But he
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Speaker 3: likes the show.
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Speaker 2: He watches every week.
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Speaker 3: He just wanted me to me. He wants to make
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Speaker 3: sure that I'm still being nice and you know, speaking
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Speaker 3: about him in a positive way, and I would and
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Speaker 3: I do.
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Speaker 2: Is he still paying for the car insurance, the rent
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Speaker 2: and all that stuff.
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Speaker 3: No, because I am not in that place that I
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Speaker 3: was in when I moved and I have a new car,
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Speaker 3: so no, he's not paying.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: Look, you are so fascinating to watch on this show.
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Speaker 2: I love the dynamic you have with the girls. I
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Speaker 2: want to get into what happened in the most recent episode,
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Speaker 2: and that is between you and Rosie. And one thing
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Speaker 2: that we saw as you were doing Ashley's hair is
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Speaker 2: the conversation you two had in the previous home that
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Speaker 2: you lived in. So before I finished with that, you
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Speaker 2: are you out of that house completely? Yes? Yeah? And
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Speaker 2: you have your own place yes, okay. So at the
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Speaker 2: time you were there, you have the salon inside of
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Speaker 2: the home, and we learned that you know, there's something
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Speaker 2: going on between you and Rosie. You intimated that, listen,
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Speaker 2: could there be jealousy here because when you did her hair,
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Speaker 2: she didn't tag you. And that's how you are able to,
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Speaker 2: you know, get the word out that you are, you know,
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Speaker 2: a hairstylist as well. What we saw in the in
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Speaker 2: the recent episodes is you two are are having out
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Speaker 2: your questioning her authenticity, whether or not she's genuine and honest.
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Speaker 2: Is the real beef between you and Rosie. Is it
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Speaker 2: about the fact that she did not tag you when
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Speaker 2: you did her hair?
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Speaker 3: It's not. It's not at all. And I've said this
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Speaker 3: too many times since then, because you can't mash down,
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Speaker 3: you know, a three hour boat ride in ten minutes.
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Speaker 3: Obviously a lot more goes on. However, it's not. It
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Speaker 3: wasn't the tagging, and she was saying like, oh, I
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Speaker 3: didn't hear about this, you being mad. I didn't post
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Speaker 3: until right now, when it was three months ago or
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Speaker 3: four months ago, whenever it was, And I'm like, listen,
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Speaker 3: she was coming in trying to build a relationship with
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Speaker 3: me because we didn't know each other, and she loved
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Speaker 3: the haircut, and before she left my house, she's like,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can take a picture, but you're just
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Speaker 3: gonna get haters, meaning that if I posted a picture
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Speaker 3: of her hair on my Instagram, the haters that she
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Speaker 3: had currently we're going to now start hating on me.
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Speaker 3: So that made me feel like, Okay, I guess she
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Speaker 3: doesn't want me to post her but like I would
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Speaker 3: have when I'm trying to meet somebody and like be
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Speaker 3: friends with somebody, knowing I'm going to be filming with
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Speaker 3: them for the entire summer, like I would just that's
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Speaker 3: just something I would naturally do to support someone like
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Speaker 3: oh like me and Kelsey, like she just in my hair,
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Speaker 3: like I love it, just something not because it's expected.
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Speaker 3: I did not expect it per se. I just thought
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Speaker 3: it was kind of like the right thing to do.
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Speaker 3: And as the months went on after I started seeing
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Speaker 3: her post everybody else. So it wasn't like, oh, we're
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Speaker 3: just starting hanging out now, and then you start seeing
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Speaker 3: Pizza Mama, and then you start seeing her other friend,
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Speaker 3: and then you start seeing Liz, and then it's just
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Speaker 3: like she starts to post to everyone else but me,
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Speaker 3: and it just felt like it was intentional. I never
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Speaker 3: brought it up to her, but there was all pre
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Speaker 3: production stuff between her and I that I did not like,
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Speaker 3: and it was basically against her character. It was just
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Speaker 3: things that were what I'm adding up inside my brain
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Speaker 3: before I'm meeting somebody. And it's just like every time
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Speaker 3: I see her, it was like she acted different and
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Speaker 3: I just didn't I could not get to know this girl.
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Speaker 2: But it was not I saw a filming. You feel
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Speaker 2: like she was what being shady towards you, like what,
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Speaker 2: so she.
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Speaker 3: Was trying to dig up dirt on all of us,
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Speaker 3: and she was like storing it in her notes app
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Speaker 3: and she always wanted to make it seem like she
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Speaker 3: had the upper hand in this, Like she was talking
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Speaker 3: to production and she had these like close ties and
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Speaker 3: she talks to them all day long, and it was
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Speaker 3: just like we're all on the same playing field here,
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Speaker 3: and nobody kind of liked the fact that she was
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Speaker 3: being kind of like aggressive in that way, like she's
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Speaker 3: the star, and I don't like that, like pick me
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Speaker 3: girl and that one that tries to kind of dominate
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Speaker 3: the room that she's in and make everyone feel like
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Speaker 3: they're below them. Those were the things that I had
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Speaker 3: in the back of my brain going into meeting this girl. Okay,
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Speaker 3: I cut her hair, she doesn't want me to post
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Speaker 3: it based off of what she was saying to me.
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Speaker 3: Then I did her makeup. She left saying she liked it. Also,
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Speaker 3: never gave any acknowledgment or even like, oh, going to
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Speaker 3: see Kelsey today or just something like you're trying to
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Speaker 3: be friends with me, like do something to show that
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Speaker 3: you actually care, and you're not doing it just for
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Speaker 3: like the show, Like I don't know, So it just
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Speaker 3: wasn't authentic between her and I, and so it's hard
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Speaker 3: for me to force something that I don't feel like
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Speaker 3: is genuine.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, can you tell me if I got this wrong?
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Speaker 2: Because you know, I know how these shows work, and
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Speaker 2: I know I know how the girls work. Yeah, does
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Speaker 2: it sound to you the way it sounds to me
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Speaker 2: that she did not want to be associated with you
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Speaker 2: like she does she feel like you're not the type
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Speaker 2: of girl that should be associated with her base on whatever.
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Speaker 2: She felt like, I'm here, you're here because not tagging you,
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Speaker 2: I give you any acknowledgement, not talking to you outside
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Speaker 2: of cameras, it's sort of like, you know, I'm better
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Speaker 2: than Kelsey, or because Kelsey is considered to be the
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Speaker 2: sugar baby, maybe doesn't go with my brand. Did you
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Speaker 2: feel that way?
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Speaker 3: Not necessarily? And there was also a time when we
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Speaker 3: were going to do a pilot and she wanted me
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Speaker 3: to come over and do her makeup for it, and
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Speaker 3: I just felt like she was still trying to think
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Speaker 3: she was here when like we're both actually going to
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Speaker 3: be on the show, So like, why are you pretending
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Speaker 3: or why are you coming across as if like you're superior?
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Speaker 3: It just it was like icky, But no, I don't
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Speaker 3: think it was that her brand didn't align with me, because,
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Speaker 3: to be honest, she did not know anybody going into
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Speaker 3: the show, So I think she was trying to just
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Speaker 3: get on everyone's good side mm hm and build relationships,
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Speaker 3: but she.
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Speaker 2: Didn't.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. How did you feel
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Speaker 2: when you saw that? Her husband said that you are
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Speaker 2: the things that you're accusing Rosie of not being, which
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Speaker 2: is not having property and not having a job. He
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Speaker 2: feels like that's you and you're projecting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think it's so funny that he says
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Speaker 3: that I am in no way jealous of Rosie having
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Speaker 3: a house. I hope she builds the biggest house to ever.
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Speaker 3: What I was coming across is I just kept clocking
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Speaker 3: her bullshit, like her being an exaggerator. I just I'm
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Speaker 3: clocking all these things, and I'm like taking notes like
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Speaker 3: I'm a fax girl, Like I don't try to bullshit
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Speaker 3: me to like seem cool or something, and I don't
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Speaker 3: care that my name is not a house, Like maybe
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Speaker 3: my boyfriend doesn't make me pay half the bills like,
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Speaker 3: that's not why, that's why my name is not a house.
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Speaker 3: My boyfriend owns like six houses. I don't give a shit.
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't care if my name's on a house.
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Speaker 3: I really don't. And I've always had a job. I've
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Speaker 3: actually always worked, but not because I needed to survive,
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Speaker 3: but because I wanted to. No did I work every
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Speaker 3: single day of my life. But for the last ten years,
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Speaker 3: I always had some sort of job making money, and
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Speaker 3: I never had any overhead or any bills to pay.
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Speaker 3: So you can imagine how much money I saved in
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Speaker 3: ten years. So everyone thinks, girl, you left with nothing,
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Speaker 3: You're very, very wrong. I left in the best position
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Speaker 3: I could have ever left in. And girls, we always
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Speaker 3: have a plan. So I guess she didn't clock that one.
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Speaker 2: Do you have more money than Rosie?
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much money she has. I don't
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Speaker 3: know how much funny she has. And I'll never It's
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Speaker 3: not a pissing contest to me. But don't pretend like
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Speaker 3: I'm jealous of your career, the one that you talked
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Speaker 3: about and the house that you are building. I'm really
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Speaker 3: not jealous. I promise you. I support my friends and
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Speaker 3: I want the best for them, but I don't have
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Speaker 3: to like put her down. I just don't like somebody
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Speaker 3: who bullshits. And so that's where the underlying frustration kind
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Speaker 3: of stems from.
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Speaker 2: Do you okay, so you talk about you don't like
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Speaker 2: anybody who bullshits, and I'm with you there. Do you
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Speaker 2: think Joe Ellen is bullshitting when she denies the fact
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Speaker 2: that she slept with your ex boyfriend on the boat
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Speaker 2: with another girl. She's like, we slept together. I'll give
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Speaker 2: you know Kelsey that it did not happen on the boat.
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Speaker 2: It's not what she said. I own who I am.
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Speaker 2: So is Joe Ellen telling the truth in that regard?
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Speaker 3: At the time she didn't remember it. After the fact
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Speaker 3: she was like, oh, I remember, actually we did that
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Speaker 3: did happen, But in the moment she thought it was
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Speaker 3: on land, which there was multiple times, So I don't
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Speaker 3: think she was necessarily lying about that. She just didn't
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Speaker 3: remember that specific time.
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Speaker 2: Is roe I would like the land? Speaking of land, well, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's like the land of Swinger.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. Apparently there is a big,
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Speaker 3: a big swinging community.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I've never been a part of that, so I don't
20:40
Speaker 3: know what exists, but apparently it exists.
20:46
Speaker 2: Do you believe Joe Ellen when she denies the fact
20:49
Speaker 2: that she and her husband are swingers?
20:53
Speaker 3: I believe she's not a swinger. I don't think Gary
20:57
Speaker 3: would even want that if it was two girls. But
21:01
Speaker 3: you know, no, I don't know she's not a swinger.
21:05
Speaker 2: Did it weard you out when you saw the scene
21:07
Speaker 2: where her sister was talking to her husband while Joe
21:11
Speaker 2: Ellen wasn't there? Do you think it's like odd or no?
21:17
Speaker 3: I have no Jen and I love Jen and she's funny,
21:19
Speaker 3: but no, she she had a crush on Gary, maybe
21:24
Speaker 3: a couple of boot grab or you know, a kiss,
21:27
Speaker 3: but there was She's not currently trying to get Gary
21:33
Speaker 3: away from Joellen like they're just you know, they have
21:36
Speaker 3: a good relationship as brother in law and sister in law.
21:41
Speaker 2: Your girl Liz was on Watch What Happens Live recently
21:45
Speaker 2: and she, you know, was asked a question about you
21:49
Speaker 2: and Dino and whether or not you guys had relations.
21:57
Speaker 2: She said, it's your story to tell, and Andy acts,
22:00
Speaker 2: did Dina have any relations with the other cast members?
22:03
Speaker 2: And she didn't want to answer that question. So when
22:06
Speaker 2: it came to you, in Dino. Was it just a casual,
22:09
Speaker 2: you know situation. Are you the only one on the
22:13
Speaker 2: cast that had relations with Dina?
22:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to my to my knowledgement, yeah, I'm
22:21
Speaker 3: the only other one, and I am so not that
22:26
Speaker 3: I'm mad, But like the fact that that was even
22:29
Speaker 3: brought up means nothing to the show, to my storyline,
22:37
Speaker 3: to her, like, it means nothing. The only thing that
22:40
Speaker 3: it showed by bringing that up with me and him
22:42
Speaker 3: means that shows that how connected we are as a
22:46
Speaker 3: state and how close these ties are. But me just
22:51
Speaker 3: having a quick little thing it means nothing, meant nothing
22:55
Speaker 3: to me. And I just distanced my I sell from
23:00
Speaker 3: him because I didn't like him, not because anything else.
23:05
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, there was nothing important about that fact.
23:11
Speaker 2: Do you think Liz brought it up to remove the
23:15
Speaker 2: attention away from her and Demo possibly being together.
23:20
Speaker 3: She took what I said in the wrong regard, Like
23:24
Speaker 3: I didn't mean that there was an ongoing relationship between
23:26
Speaker 3: the two of them. I meant there was an ongoing
23:34
Speaker 3: case with him in the state, So that's what I
23:38
Speaker 3: was referring to. She took it in that I was
23:39
Speaker 3: saying there was something ongoing between them, so I would
23:43
Speaker 3: never say that to her, most importantly on camera, So
23:49
Speaker 3: I think it was just her knee jerk reaction to
23:53
Speaker 3: say that because she may have thought I was hurting
23:56
Speaker 3: her in that moment.
23:57
Speaker 2: In this most recent episode, it ended with the revelation
24:02
Speaker 2: of things Aboarb Brian Joe Ellen. You know, the Rhoe
24:07
Speaker 2: Island PI that she is she received, you know, but
24:13
Speaker 2: photographic evidence of Rula's husband Brian in a intimate hug
24:20
Speaker 2: with a blond woman that lasted for like five minutes.
24:24
Speaker 2: Everyone is shocked at it. When it comes to Joe Ellen,
24:32
Speaker 2: do you really think she's looking out for the best
24:35
Speaker 2: interest of Rula or is she a nosy, busy body
24:38
Speaker 2: that just can't help herself.
24:44
Speaker 3: She I think it started more of her trying to
24:50
Speaker 3: help Rula, and the more that it went on and
24:52
Speaker 3: the more that Rula was kind of like rejecting the truth,
24:56
Speaker 3: the more pissed Joellen off. And I think maybe be
25:02
Speaker 3: Joelle and even got aggravated herself in being called a
25:06
Speaker 3: liar and that maybe I'm sure there was a little,
25:12
Speaker 3: you know, sprinkle of shade here and there she wanted
25:15
Speaker 3: to throw, But I don't necessarily think she was trying
25:18
Speaker 3: to hurt Rula, I think more so, I think she
25:22
Speaker 3: wanted to hurt Brian, and so you can't really hurt
25:26
Speaker 3: Brian without hurting Rula too. So I think the shade
25:32
Speaker 3: was more at Brian, or the hurt was more directed
25:37
Speaker 3: towards Brian and exposing him than it was to be
25:41
Speaker 3: hurting Rula.
25:45
Speaker 2: We didn't say Rula on the trip. We saw that
25:46
Speaker 2: she was, you know, sick at the house. Do you
25:49
Speaker 2: buy that Rula did not show up on the trip
25:51
Speaker 2: because she was sick or do you believe because she
25:53
Speaker 2: knew that Listen, the topic of her husband havings affairs
25:57
Speaker 2: were going to come up and she didn't want to
25:58
Speaker 2: deal with it.
26:00
Speaker 3: I think both. I think I think she could have
26:05
Speaker 3: made it there if she wanted to. Maybe she was
26:08
Speaker 3: feeling a little sick stressed, but I think she could
26:14
Speaker 3: have made it there if she wanted to. I think
26:17
Speaker 3: she knew also if she went there, there was no
26:20
Speaker 3: way that the relationship wasn't going to be brought up.
26:24
Speaker 3: But I think she could have made it there.
26:27
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Brian's grandmother was really sick when
26:31
Speaker 2: he had to leave the polo match or do you
26:34
Speaker 2: believe that he had to calm down his mistress at
26:37
Speaker 2: the time, because word on the street is that she
26:40
Speaker 2: was threatening to show up.
26:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said that on Watch Happens Life. Yeah, that's
26:47
Speaker 3: what I heard from a good source. Everyone says there's rumor, no, no,
26:55
Speaker 3: but I would trust Joell and source, believe or not.
26:59
Speaker 3: I don't think think that. I don't know. First off,
27:04
Speaker 3: your ring was on at Angelo's all of a sudden,
27:07
Speaker 3: It's not on great when you show up. What happened
27:09
Speaker 3: in between that point that you had to take off
27:11
Speaker 3: your ring? Why was Rula not with you? If your
27:17
Speaker 3: mom was sick, why wouldn't you guys just go together
27:19
Speaker 3: check on her and then come to Polo. It was
27:21
Speaker 3: just I choose to believe the rumor that she was
27:29
Speaker 3: going to show up. So but again she's going to
27:33
Speaker 3: say otherwise.
27:36
Speaker 2: What has since been revealed? And Rula said this recently,
27:41
Speaker 2: And I'm curious if you knew about it that you know,
27:45
Speaker 2: the mistress owns equity in Brian's business and which which
27:51
Speaker 2: which really complicates things. And obviously you were with the
27:57
Speaker 2: man for ten years, you were able to like do
27:59
Speaker 2: your thing, save your coins and all that stuff. I
28:03
Speaker 2: don't did he give you equity any of his businesses
28:06
Speaker 2: or noa.
28:08
Speaker 3: He doesn't own businesses like that. Per se.
28:12
Speaker 2: A lot of people are sort of defending the mistress
28:15
Speaker 2: by saying, now that we know she had has equity
28:18
Speaker 2: in his business, maybe there is something to her saying
28:22
Speaker 2: that this was not just some sort of like wambam,
28:26
Speaker 2: thank you, ma'am, that in her mind she really believed
28:29
Speaker 2: they had a relationship, and maybe she really did think
28:32
Speaker 2: like he was going to divorce Rula, Like, do you
28:36
Speaker 2: agree with that?
28:38
Speaker 3: Yes, I dred percent agree with it. I think they
28:41
Speaker 3: had a full blown relationship for two two and a
28:45
Speaker 3: half years. That there's no denying that he was buying
28:49
Speaker 3: her gifts, they were traveling together, they were going places.
28:53
Speaker 3: They were not just uh, I'm gonna, you know, hook
28:58
Speaker 3: up with this girl and leave. They had a full
29:00
Speaker 3: own relationship, and I just don't think Rula knew it
29:03
Speaker 3: at the time. I think now she knows that they
29:07
Speaker 3: had more going on, But I don't necessarily think in
29:13
Speaker 3: the moment of filming she did, or she was more
29:17
Speaker 3: so trying to protect herself and kind of looking bad,
29:20
Speaker 3: so she acknowledged a lot of things that were happening,
29:24
Speaker 3: or that were brought to her attention, but she was
29:27
Speaker 3: actually learning those things in real time. So I think
29:31
Speaker 3: the reason why the mistress is blindsided is because I
29:35
Speaker 3: bet Brian was promising her a relationship, promising that he
29:42
Speaker 3: was going to get a divorce. So she's probably like,
29:45
Speaker 3: you know, f this girl, like you're going to break
29:48
Speaker 3: up with me now, like you promised me x y
29:51
Speaker 3: and z so. And that to me is it's worse
29:57
Speaker 3: to have an emotional affair than it is to to
30:01
Speaker 3: have a physical affair too, like the fact that there
30:05
Speaker 3: was so many emotions between them and it wasn't just
30:09
Speaker 3: like he was trying to get his fixed. It was
30:12
Speaker 3: more than that. And that's hard to take, very hard
30:15
Speaker 3: to take, and very hard to take on camera and
30:19
Speaker 3: still trying to contain your composure. And she did it
30:26
Speaker 3: with grace. I will give her that, but I also no, no,
30:33
Speaker 3: I think she remained composed, and you know if I
30:42
Speaker 3: just feel like she she played her cards wrong in
30:48
Speaker 3: the way of like she didn't want to accept it
30:53
Speaker 3: necessarily or pointed the blame elsewhere. And listen, the title
30:58
Speaker 3: of being a mistress is the worst title you can hold.
31:03
Speaker 3: There's nothing more degrading and being a mistress and ruining
31:07
Speaker 3: somebody's marriage.
31:11
Speaker 2: One of the things that people are saying is two things.
31:16
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get your answer. Do I'll let you go.
31:18
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Rula being on the Real housewasor
31:23
Speaker 2: Rooe Island, that that is what is saving her marriage?
31:29
Speaker 2: And without this show, let's say this show never happened,
31:34
Speaker 2: do you think the affair would have continued? Oh?
31:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like it would have. There are
31:43
Speaker 3: people that saw Brian and the mistress out and said
31:48
Speaker 3: he was like super happy, like super energetic, and the
31:54
Speaker 3: exact opposite of what you see him like on the TV.
31:58
Speaker 3: So I think I think he was having his cake
32:01
Speaker 3: and eating it too, and he was enjoying his life.
32:04
Speaker 3: So to say it would have lasted longer, I believe it,
32:08
Speaker 3: because now there was like eyes from every angle on him,
32:11
Speaker 3: so it almost had to end. But I think he
32:14
Speaker 3: was put in a bad position, and knowing that he
32:16
Speaker 3: gave the mistress a certain stake in the company made
32:21
Speaker 3: it all made it so much harder for it to
32:26
Speaker 3: actually just end because of there were so many other
32:28
Speaker 3: ties with her financially that were more like finding that
32:35
Speaker 3: kind of It's not just say like see you later, like,
32:37
Speaker 3: please leave my life and only have a business. So
32:46
Speaker 3: it sucks for everyone around, to be honest, and it
32:48
Speaker 3: sucks that it's on TV and that you have a
32:51
Speaker 3: bunch of people with opinions that are just never going
32:54
Speaker 3: to believe that you did the right thing. So it's
32:56
Speaker 3: I feel bad for her, and I feel bad for
33:00
Speaker 3: everybody involved.
33:05
Speaker 2: One of the things that Joela and is saying that
33:09
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on it. She believes
33:11
Speaker 2: that Brian wants Rula to just leave him. That'll be
33:15
Speaker 2: easier if she leaves. Do you think that's the case.
33:23
Speaker 3: I think in the brain of a coward, I don't
33:27
Speaker 3: think he had the balls to leave Rula. They have
33:32
Speaker 3: two kids, they have businesses together. It's so much more.
33:37
Speaker 3: It's comfortable when the decision is not necessarily on your
33:42
Speaker 3: shoulders and that it's on Rula's to make. And after Rula,
33:45
Speaker 3: she's already been divorced, it's her second marriage. I don't
33:48
Speaker 3: think divorce was necessarily on the forefront of her brain.
33:52
Speaker 3: And I think she should work on her marriage. But
33:56
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen overnight.
34:00
Speaker 2: Well, look, like I said, this show is is amazing,
34:06
Speaker 2: and I was texting Lucilla and I said, girlfriend, this,
34:10
Speaker 2: I haven't been impressed by a first season show in years.
34:15
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is I said, you guys, knock
34:18
Speaker 2: this out of the park. It is no Kelsey, this
34:22
Speaker 2: show is a ten out of a fucking ten. Yeah,
34:27
Speaker 2: I'm a.
34:28
Speaker 3: We thought we weren't doing enough, by the way, Oh girl,
34:32
Speaker 3: The thing is this, The think is this.
34:33
Speaker 2: As a producer, things always when you're dealing with a
34:36
Speaker 2: new cast, things always start off a little bit slow
34:39
Speaker 2: because it's sort of like what do we do? But
34:44
Speaker 2: and the beauty, the beautiful thing about filming and editing
34:47
Speaker 2: the fact that all the boring shit you get rid
34:49
Speaker 2: of and like move all the good ship earlier, you know.
34:52
Speaker 2: And Lucilla is.
34:54
Speaker 4: A mastermind at at crafting a show, and Beyonca is
35:01
Speaker 4: an amazing show runner as well, and listen and the
35:04
Speaker 4: team that a fantastic job is.
35:06
Speaker 2: This is a show that I tell people all the time, like,
35:08
Speaker 2: if you're not watching Rhode Island, then I don't know
35:11
Speaker 2: what you're doing with your time, Like this is the watch.
35:14
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. And I do want to say this one.
35:17
Speaker 3: We did not do a pilot. They bought the show,
35:20
Speaker 3: blindly having no idea what we were going to be
35:23
Speaker 3: like on camera. In two the first week of filming again,
35:29
Speaker 3: the first time we were in front of the cameras,
35:31
Speaker 3: I think they said they use almost everything, like they
35:35
Speaker 3: use all of the scenes from the first week of filming,
35:37
Speaker 3: which they thought it was a kind of like a
35:39
Speaker 3: trial run, where like they know it may take us
35:42
Speaker 3: like a week or so to get used to like
35:44
Speaker 3: the cameras being around and us not looking. Like they
35:46
Speaker 3: said they used almost everything from the first week, no pilot,
35:49
Speaker 3: no experience from us, and it was all that good.
35:54
Speaker 3: The scene of the day me and Liz were at
36:00
Speaker 3: pulled up on the dinghy to meet me. That was
36:02
Speaker 3: the first scene I ever shot.
36:05
Speaker 2: Oh you're a natural, babe.
36:08
Speaker 3: And so it was it came natural. I think for
36:11
Speaker 3: all of us, are we boring?
36:13
Speaker 2: Are we like?
36:14
Speaker 3: Is it going to be good? But then I'm like,
36:16
Speaker 3: you know what, there's no way that this isn't good
36:19
Speaker 3: because then I think back to like watching other shows,
36:22
Speaker 3: I'm like, we gotta be better than them, Like, there's
36:25
Speaker 3: no way we're not going to be It's just like, yeah,
36:29
Speaker 3: so it's nice to hear that it's such a success.
36:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So are you Are you and
36:38
Speaker 2: Bills together? Yes? Yeah, congratulations Congress on that. The last
36:44
Speaker 2: question what can we expect for the rest of the season,
36:49
Speaker 2: And part two of that question is who are you
36:55
Speaker 2: ready to confront at the upcoming reunion?
37:00
Speaker 3: What can you expect? A lot of cringey moments that
37:09
Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily looking forward to watching. It gets more
37:14
Speaker 3: hostile as the season for the rest from this point forward,
37:19
Speaker 3: it's the fights are hostile. Whereas before it was petty,
37:23
Speaker 3: now it's a little it's there's attitude and there's aggression.
37:32
Speaker 3: Am I looking forward to confronting at their union? I'm
37:38
Speaker 3: not going to confront anybody. I don't think that's the
37:41
Speaker 3: right word. I think it's good to air things out,
37:46
Speaker 3: speaking to each other and like getting to the bottom
37:49
Speaker 3: of the issue and understanding each other's feelings. I don't
37:52
Speaker 3: necessarily feel like I need to confront somebody. I think
37:54
Speaker 3: people all need to take accountability for the ship they've
37:58
Speaker 3: said and the ship that they've done, more so than confronting.
38:02
Speaker 3: And when people acknowledge things and acknowledge other people's feelings,
38:06
Speaker 3: that's when you get places. So as long as there's
38:10
Speaker 3: a lot of acknowledgment. I think it'll be good, but
38:13
Speaker 3: I think it'll get worse before it gets better.
38:16
Speaker 2: Oh, buddy, buddy, buddy, Opah, listen, rain drops. Make sure
38:20
Speaker 2: you guys check out my new favorite show. I'm obsessed
38:24
Speaker 2: with it, The Real Housewives of Rhode Island, every Sunday
38:27
Speaker 2: at nine pm Eastern and the next day on Peacock Kelsey.
38:32
Speaker 2: I thank you so much, thank you for having me
38:35
Speaker 2: on Reality with the King. Give Luchilla a big old
38:38
Speaker 2: kissing hug for me the next time you see her,
38:41
Speaker 2: and tell the girls if it was look you're talking to,
38:45
Speaker 2: tell them that I think all of you ladies are
38:48
Speaker 2: that beauty less. Yeah, seriously, continue being yourself. Don't let
38:54
Speaker 2: the comments affect you, ladies, stay off Twitter. Just be
38:59
Speaker 2: yourself because it absolutely it's working.
39:01
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, thank you, You're welcome.
39:04
Speaker 2: Bay. All right, have a good Dame, I love bye,
39:07
Speaker 2: bye ey