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CFB DFS Week 7 Saturday Slate | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 1: The sky is falling. College football is ruined forever. The
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  Speaker 1: regular season means nothing. What's going on, everybody? Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the mid-season week seven college football breakdown at
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  Speaker 1: Ship It Nation. My name is Bill. Put a dollar
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  Speaker 1: Joining me are my colleagues and good friends, Kenny, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 1: HamHawk41 and Ian. I am Robbins. What's going on today, guys?
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  Speaker 3: Big news dropping in college football world. You know, always something.
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  Speaker 3: things have changed so much in the last five years.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, halfway through the season, I can't believe it's
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  Speaker 3: already halfway through.
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  Speaker 4: Also can't believe that we are another, we got a
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  Speaker 4: whole nother half of this stuff left. This can be great.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I, um, gosh, it's kind of a tough couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks, uh, on the DFS streets, but hopefully getting
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  Speaker 5: that turned around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't, with the whole playoff, I always thought like
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  Speaker 5: four was perfect. Like you're going to get your champion
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  Speaker 5: out of that, but I've definitely been proven wrong with,
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  Speaker 5: Miami getting to the national championship last year. And just like,
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  Speaker 5: we've seen these teams that are, that maybe would not
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  Speaker 5: have been in that get to the championship. So I'm
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  Speaker 5: kind of all for it now, I guess more competitive
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  Speaker 5: games in December or whatever, I guess when you're a
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  Speaker 5: half 12, what's 24.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I like, I, I'm not, I guess I'm
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  Speaker 1: not shocked at the reaction on socials and by the
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  Speaker 1: general college football fan community, but I, it's the same
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  Speaker 1: people that, wanted to keep it at two instead of
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  Speaker 1: four wanted to keep it at four instead of 12
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  Speaker 1: but you know if you want to keep it at
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  Speaker 1: four what how do florida state fans feel about that
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  Speaker 1: if you want to keep it at 12 how do
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  Speaker 1: notre dame fans feel about that i like the idea
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  Speaker 1: of 24 i've been saying it all week in the
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  Speaker 1: community on socials like i can't wait till umass goes
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  Speaker 1: on the road to austin and beats texas in the
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  Speaker 1: first round just the chaos and pandemonium obviously it's different
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  Speaker 1: than basketball but I've been seeing sentiment that it's all
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  Speaker 1: about the money. It's too many teams. Now it's not just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not going to be as competitive, all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. But you could argue the same for basketball,
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  Speaker 1: March Madness. That continues to expand. And also, I'm of
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  Speaker 1: the belief that conference realignment and NIL are ruining college
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  Speaker 1: football way more than the CFP expansion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think this brings a little bit back to it
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  Speaker 3: because– You know, one thing I really like about this
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  Speaker 3: new format is these teams are getting home games.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're earning your way into home playoff games.
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  Speaker 3: That's something that I thought has been the coolest part
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  Speaker 3: about the whole playoff expansion right now, is you get
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  Speaker 3: these home campus. Like, there's nothing better than a campus,
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  Speaker 3: meaningful game on campus, and we're going to get more
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  Speaker 3: of these now. So, in the conference title game, since
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  Speaker 3: conference realignment's kind of gone to the wayside, which I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate that, NIL is a whole nother thing we can
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  Speaker 3: get figured out, but at least it's going to bring
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  Speaker 3: some more dollars spread out across the field. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to bring some more home games. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a lot more football throughout December, you know, all the
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  Speaker 3: other levels do it. So why not, why not the
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  Speaker 3: division one, as opposed to, you know, FCS, FBS, FCS, D2, D3,
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  Speaker 3: NAIA does it all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I agree with Hart. It is, everything's about money, right?
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  Speaker 1: Everything is about money. Uh, Yeah, the home playoff game
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  Speaker 1: is going to be insane. So I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to ruin college football. I think the regular season
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  Speaker 1: was already ruined. Now, ideally, they stop making this a
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  Speaker 1: beauty pageant. They let metrics determine more. They get people
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  Speaker 1: to stop scheduling these cupcake games at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the season. And we have, you know, wall-to-wall competitive games
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  Speaker 1: instead of, you know, FCS against FBS, P4 versus G6.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there's more that needs to be done,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not against it. I'm not against the expansion.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to ruin college football. I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll be just fine. We've made it this far.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, or we could go back to having the
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  Speaker 1: coaches pull an AP poll, decide who our national champion is.
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  Speaker 4: Co-national titles.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure people would love that. But yeah, Hart, we
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  Speaker 1: do have a great Saturday slate. Speaking of the 90s,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go all the way back. But we have a
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  Speaker 1: good slate ahead of us. You're absolutely right. It is midseason.
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  Speaker 1: We have some good contests on DraftKings. We have the
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  Speaker 1: big mid season. I don't even remember exactly what it's called,
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  Speaker 1: but there's, there's a good big contest for everybody, especially like,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to rope in a few
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  Speaker 1: new players. So maybe we have a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of an advantage, but I do want
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  Speaker 1: to mention quickly that we still have the best deal
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  Speaker 1: in the nation. 349 for the entire season. It's, We're
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  Speaker 1: getting close to mid season. So this becomes less and
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  Speaker 1: less valuable every day. The earlier you get in, the
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  Speaker 1: better off you're gonna be. But if you just love
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  Speaker 1: college football, we do have our single sport packages as well.
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  Speaker 1: at games. We just had to bump up to a $ 50, 000
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  Speaker 1: plays and that's what makes us unique. But speaking of
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  Speaker 1: the Saturday slate, One thing that you'll notice as we
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  Speaker 1: go through, we've already had conversations within our group about it.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's underpriced. And, you know, part of part of one
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  Speaker 1: of the one of the theories is that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to have more players because of this big midseason contest.
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  Speaker 1: People have won tickets on DraftKings and DK wants new people,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that don't know a ton about CFB DFS, but
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  Speaker 1: love college football to be able to play whoever they
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  Speaker 1: want in their lineups. It's very I would. I would
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  Speaker 1: consider it new friendly. What do you guys think about
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  Speaker 1: just the pricing in general? We can start there before
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  Speaker 1: we go game by game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, obviously you look at the slate this week
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  Speaker 5: and you're like, Holy crap. The quarterbacks are all like
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  Speaker 5: priced down a tier from what.
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  Speaker 2: They usually are. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's as much of an effect
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  Speaker 5: as like they're having the big GPP or it's like,
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  Speaker 5: it's gotten to the point where guys like Jeremiah Smith,
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  Speaker 5: and Nate Shepard are like projecting better than any quarterbacks
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  Speaker 5: on the slate. And that hasn't been a thing necessarily
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  Speaker 5: every year. So I think kind of think it's a
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  Speaker 5: mix of the both. Cause it was, I mean, they
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  Speaker 5: didn't change it until like really this week's I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, it's with guys like that. It definitely just
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  Speaker 5: changes the whole build, like to where we've seen like
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  Speaker 5: optimal spit out a position player and super flex. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think it's just a little mix of the both,
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  Speaker 5: but interesting nonetheless.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's like every week we get something unique about pricing,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's really, really tight or there's some injury value
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  Speaker 3: or there's a bunch of underpriced players. You know, this week,
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  Speaker 3: no different. It's just a different way to make decisions.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the unique thing about college football. Each week
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  Speaker 3: you're dealing with a different set of players, a different
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  Speaker 3: set of teams, you know, a different strategy as compared
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  Speaker 3: to the NFL. We pretty much have the same teams
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  Speaker 3: over and over again on the slates, college football. Very
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  Speaker 3: few appear week to week on the same slate. So
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  Speaker 3: that's the exciting part about it. And that's the fun
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  Speaker 3: part about it is we just have such a massively
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  Speaker 3: bigger player pool. Just brings different puzzles in each week.
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  Speaker 3: And this week is no different. Some injuries to keep
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  Speaker 3: in mind, but this week is no different with the puzzles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is the nice thing. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's a different puzzle every week. And I never even
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  Speaker 1: thought about the fact that we've had wide receivers in
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  Speaker 1: the Superflex. It seems like week after week when you're
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  Speaker 1: running lineups on an optimizer. This gets rid of that,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe it's too far in one direction, but that
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  Speaker 1: very well could be the reason. But we'll get started.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of injuries and putting the puzzle together, Mississippi State
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  Speaker 1: at LSU. Mississippi State, 15-point underdog. Looking at Kamario Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: this line has moved three points more in some places
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  Speaker 1: this week toward LSU, and that leads us to believe
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  Speaker 1: that Kamario is probably not going to go. So that
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  Speaker 1: leaves Parker Puckett. Who knows, like, Who knows anything about
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  Speaker 1: Parker Bucket? He's got limited playing time. The thing that
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  Speaker 1: sticks out is he's 4,600. But as we kind of
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  Speaker 1: touched on, we don't need to go down there. And
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be other $ 4, 600 options this week that
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to in the next game and more games
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  Speaker 1: to come. Fluff Bothwell is also questionable. Now, Kentucky had
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  Speaker 1: some success on the ground against LSU. Whit Weeks is
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  Speaker 1: still out. Bothwell is just a little bit expensive in
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  Speaker 1: the grand scheme of the slate. Anthony Evans, I think,
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  Speaker 1: is a stud regardless. They finally priced him over 7K, though.
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  Speaker 1: which I think is good for college football because he's
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  Speaker 1: put up Jeremiah Smith-esque numbers already a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: this year. Not that he's Jeremiah Smith. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get that twisted. And then on the LSU side, Levitt,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, is the most expensive player on the slate,
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  Speaker 1: but I think in this matchup it's probably warranted. Dylan Jones, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: workhorse last week. And it's like he had seven catches
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  Speaker 1: on seven targets. So it's not just all coming in
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  Speaker 1: the running game. 8,200, again, a steep price, but easy
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  Speaker 1: to get to on this slate, depending on how you build.
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  Speaker 1: In the wide receiver room, you're looking at Watkins, Harris,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Trey Wilson. With no trade as Green, Roman Mothershed
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  Speaker 1: has been getting uh, some more run, uh, again, with,
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  Speaker 1: with the slate as a whole, I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: need to get too cute. Uh, I like him more
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  Speaker 1: as like an anytime touchdown bet than I do for
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  Speaker 1: DFS specifically this week. Uh, but Ian, uh, like 36
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  Speaker 1: and a half points screams, like there's gotta be something
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  Speaker 1: for cash here, but with the pricing, it makes it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit tougher.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Automatically. I think Dylan Jones is probably your best
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  Speaker 4: cash play.
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  Speaker 3: If you have the salary to do that, just a
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  Speaker 3: guy that we really can expect to touch the ball
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  Speaker 3: 20 times, you know, two plus touchdown under a favorite.
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  Speaker 3: for lsu definitely lion screams the super camaro's not going
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  Speaker 3: to play uh dylan jones has been great all year
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  Speaker 3: and then just the uprising the targets last week you
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  Speaker 3: know is he getting involved more in the past game
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  Speaker 3: it's definitely possible especially with trade as green out so
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  Speaker 3: he's definitely a guy that i would definitely target in
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  Speaker 3: cash if you are looking at some of the volume
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  Speaker 3: players here um guy um i always would want to
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  Speaker 3: have in cash as well on the other side is
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  Speaker 3: anthony evans Without Kamara Taylor, though, if he ends up
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  Speaker 3: not playing, I'm a little bit hesitant because Evans is
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  Speaker 3: so speedy. They give him plenty of targets right around
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, but he's also a massively incredible
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  Speaker 3: deep ball threat, and Kamara Taylor has one of the
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  Speaker 3: best deep balls. He passes the ball deep better than
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  Speaker 3: mostly anybody else in college football. That's really one of
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  Speaker 3: his strengths, and that could hamper Evans a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: but like you said, he's just been an absolute stud
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  Speaker 3: all year. Even Levin at 9K, you know, the way
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  Speaker 3: that he's dual threat, offense just runs through him. It's
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  Speaker 3: hard to ignore him there as well. Seaver's been a
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  Speaker 3: little crapshoot. He's been a little bit condensed to Harris
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  Speaker 3: and Watkins since Tredez Green has been out.
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  Speaker 4: But I definitely would be very interested in Dylan Jones
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  Speaker 4: in this one.
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  Speaker 3: I still like my volume running backs, and Dylan Jones
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  Speaker 3: falls right into that category of volume running backs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I, I guess for me here, I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: assume Kamaru Taylor is not going to play. If we
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  Speaker 5: get word that he's like full go, it's really hard
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  Speaker 5: for me to ignore 7,700 at like no ownership in
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  Speaker 5: a trailing game script. There's definitely better spots, but it'd
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  Speaker 5: be something I'd look into. Assuming him out Evans, I'm
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  Speaker 5: fine with like, as long as I'm running back with
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  Speaker 5: an LSU, like I, I think that he's a good
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  Speaker 5: enough receiver. You just get the ball in his hands,
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  Speaker 5: whether that be at a low, a daughter down the field,
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  Speaker 5: either way, he is pretty pricey. But I think in stacks,
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  Speaker 5: it's fine. Dylan Jones, like he would just score a
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  Speaker 5: touchdown or two. That would just, I mean, it's kind
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  Speaker 5: of where his price tag is. It's like that's already
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  Speaker 5: baked in, but he hasn't been getting it. So there's
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  Speaker 5: really not many, I mean the running backs up top
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  Speaker 5: are so like spread apart that are expensive that you
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  Speaker 5: kind of end up like you just, I feel like
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  Speaker 5: I land on him when I do get to him.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure I'll have some, but I don't really have
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  Speaker 5: a stance.
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  Speaker 2: Um, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then like Levitt, I think he's been, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's ran so well and ran so many touchdowns in
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  Speaker 5: the way I'm going to play. I'm going to force
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  Speaker 5: a pairing to get like the ultimate nine K ceiling
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  Speaker 5: out of him tomorrow. Um, hopefully that doesn't drag him
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  Speaker 5: down if he decides to run everything. And hopefully Dylan
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  Speaker 5: Jones gets some of that, but it's a tough spot
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  Speaker 5: like to make a decision, even with the huge team total.
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  Speaker 5: So overall this game, I'm not super intrigued by.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, it'll be interesting to see what Mississippi state
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  Speaker 1: can throw out if they don't have their two, two
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  Speaker 1: of their top three offensive weapons, more for real life
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  Speaker 1: football necessary like them for DFS. Uh, While we're here,
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  Speaker 1: That was all right yeah uh speaking uh we got
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  Speaker 1: florida at texas uh another double digit spread uh the
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  Speaker 1: road dog okay yeah we're just getting uh it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: we don't think phylo's gonna go so that leaves is
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  Speaker 1: it trammel or trammel i don't even know man okay
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  Speaker 1: that's Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Tramell Jones coming in another $ 4, 600 quarterback. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Wilson, we think Brunel Brown's going to go Bailey Stockton,
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  Speaker 1: Eric Singleton, like they're four competent wide receivers. Duke Clark's out,
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  Speaker 1: which spells good things for Jaden Baugh, right? But it's
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  Speaker 1: a tough matchup. He's expensive. Speaking of the matchup, Arch
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  Speaker 1: Manning is the opposite of expensive. This might be the
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  Speaker 1: cheapest he's ever been on DraftKings. I don't, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to do any historical looking back, like multiple seasons,
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  Speaker 1: but he's going to pop just because of the team
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  Speaker 1: total and his price, even whether you think he sucks
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  Speaker 1: or not, he's had some tough matchups. Uh, this is
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  Speaker 1: much easier than last week. And then you got smothers
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Cooper all getting a piece of this backfield.
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  Speaker 1: And they're just kind of, it's, it's tough to pinpoint
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  Speaker 1: where we want to go there. And then, uh, in
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  Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, I think these wide receivers are
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  Speaker 1: priced appropriately. I think any one of them can pop.
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  Speaker 1: If you get a touchdown or two from them, they're
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  Speaker 1: all getting a decent amount of the target share. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: how are you playing this? Ian, uh, I know begrudgingly
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  Speaker 1: on your part, we're going to start with you. You're
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  Speaker 1: a resident Florida guy. It's been a tough run for
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  Speaker 1: the Gators.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a tough, you know, talk about swings of
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  Speaker 3: emotions in college football. It can bring you up and
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  Speaker 3: it can bring you down in a hurry. But we're
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  Speaker 3: looking at Florida. So Jones and Philo were in that
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  Speaker 3: quarterback battle all throughout the offseason. Pretty fair shake. Philo
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  Speaker 3: had the advantage just coming from Georgia Tech with Faulkner. So,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Philo's been struggling the last few weeks. He's
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  Speaker 3: taken a lot of hits. Jones is more of a
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  Speaker 3: pocket passer. He was a four-star. He was a holdover recruit,
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: so he's certainly talented. He's got a pretty big arm.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I think the big deal that would come back is
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: if Vernal Brown, the third, does come back and he's
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: been– the way he's so shifty, he just opens up
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: the field so much for what he does.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: He's so dynamic. I think that does open up a lot.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: He's been a lot more of a participant at practice,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: but he's going to really have to be 100% to go.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I do think he does return this week. Stockton has
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: played through injuries. Singleton has been back the last few weeks,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and Dallas Wilson has been there. I just think if
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: VB3 is back, it does open up a lot for
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Bob because now everybody's been stacking the line against Bob,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: and Philo has been able to beat him by himself
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: the last few weeks.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: So we'll see if Jones can. Still a really, really
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: tough matchup for all these guys. Bob, 9-5.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: He's going to touch the ball 30 times, but he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: just been such– such a bummer the last few weeks,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: the last few weeks, uh, saved himself a little bit
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: with a touchdown last week, but just tough to go there.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: And the receivers are priced up, you know, for now
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Brown and Dallas Wilson are priced up in a tough
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: matchup that we kind of got to wait and see
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: what happens here. And Texas has, you know, for whatever
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: they are, they have a really good defense. Florida has
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: been really struggling on the defense, especially to stop the pass.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: So we, we look over to ours at six, nine,
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: and this is, this is the most enticing spot is
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: probably here. It's probably going to be the highest ownership
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: we see on our, um, For good or for bad,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: they got a 30-point-plus team total. They're a double-digit favorite.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: They got a favorable matchup. Cam Coleman has been around,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you know, just throw the ball up to Cam. Running
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: back room is pretty much a split, so it's hard
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: to get anyone there. Arch just screams as a really
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: good play in all formats here and somebody that is
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: really easy to start your cash lineup with. And I
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: don't even think you have to stack Arch because, you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: he will spin the ball around, but... he's just pressing
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: away in a cash lineup where I don't think you
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: need to pair him up with anybody. So unfortunately I'm
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: avoiding the Florida side this week in a single entry
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: cash line. I do think a snack, a snack, a
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: stack with Jones Philo or with Jones, Wilson and Brown,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: if Brown does go, it can be kind of sneaky
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: and affordable just with Jones price down so much. If
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you're running back with Cam Coleman or somebody like that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: That's greasy. What do you think, Kenny?
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: You know, the Texas side, you kind of talk specifically
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: about you don't have to play arch with someone. That's
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: kind of where my stand is going to be. I mean,
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: I really like Texas this week. And I guess I'll
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: kind of start with this. Like, there's two matchups on
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: the slate that are like this, where it's like the
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: stoppable force versus the movable object. We've got the stoppable
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: force in Texas' offense against the movable object in Florida's defense. So, like,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: which one is going to prevail here?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I really love Cam Coleman. Last week I played a
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: fair amount of him. He's a super fair price. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: hasn't really tapped into that full ceiling.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I think, yet.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: It's kind of been a lower volume passing attack, but
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: he scores touchdowns. I think he's fine in any way
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: you play him. I think he can be played by himself.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Wingo and Mosley, I'm going to only play with Arch,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: but I am going to play some of them. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: think that it's a solid spot. What scares the crap
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: out of me is if these running backs get to
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: do whatever they want to. And then it just, it
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: just destroys everything. One thing about it, like Texas is
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: cheap enough that like you can like survive that if
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: something like that did happen still, like if we, if
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: some others Brown each score, then maybe you can just
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: get two to Coleman or two to Wingo or something.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: As far as onslaughting, I don't know if I want
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: to do it with Texas just because of the stoppable
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: force thing. But, and then Florida side, gosh, like, I
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: feel for you, dude, because it's like you get all
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: the way in the top 10, and now you're not
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: even ranked.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It's like two weeks later.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: It's just real.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: It is the highs and lows of college football.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: This is why we love and hate this sport.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: And Jaden Baugh, gosh, it's like I just can't get
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: there this week. And usually, I mean, he's just been
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: so inefficient in these last two matchups. It's just hard
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: for me to get there in 9,500. I can't justify
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: that against the 9,700 matchups. jeremiah smith um but yeah
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: tramble jones i have some interest in i kind of
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: want to dig in some more just he's so cheap
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: i don't find it with like a texas run back
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: maybe to push that texas a little bit i mean
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: florida does still have a 20 point team total um
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: so i don't know but texas side especially pairing arch
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: manning i think is a really good really good strategy
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: this week.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah and i i am on board with arch if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: he can't get it right this week when is he
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: going to get it right? Like he's been one of
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the more criticized and for good reason. And honestly, if
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you pair Arch Manning with Cam Coleman, six, nine and 600,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you're hitting multiple generations with jokes and both verbal stems. So,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds great. And speaking of jokes, there's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: more inside jokes in the chat. I don't know what
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this means, but I'm it's lunchtime for me and I'm starving.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So I don't appreciate this. Ian, I know you have
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: more Intel on that one.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes way back. Let's go back 25 years.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Jeez.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Oh man. Speaking of generational jokes.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: We got the sunflower showdown Kansas at Kansas state and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: maybe the top two quarterback plays on the slate on
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the Kansas side. Isaiah Marshall is just underpriced. He went
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: off through the air against Utah and also has the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: ability to run the ball. You know, I love a
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: good revenge game. We got Dylan Edwards going against his
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: former team and that it felt like it was contentious
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: all season last year after what the third play of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the international game or something like Everything just went to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: hell for Dylan Edwards. And it was, it felt like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it was some on the field, some off the field.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And then in terms of wideouts, Cam Pickett at sub 5k,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: he's come back with like just some fire and has
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: had 14 targets last week for 134, even at eight
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: targets in his first game back. But what I liked
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: about last game is that he got his route, like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: his snaps and routes up along with the targets. So,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: clearly getting back into a main target role, possibly even
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one. Obviously, McMillan's still there getting his share.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Najee Cox is still going to be on the field
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a ton, especially because Kubeka's out. Maybe we get a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: little more Tate Nagy, but I don't know if we
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: need to get that cute. Then on the Kansas State side,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Avery Johnson, solid matchup, rivalry game, only 7,500. We know
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: he's dual threat. Not that he's like, Had like a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: super ceiling game yet this year, but his floor is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: not going to kill you at this price. Split room
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: at running back. I'll defer to you guys on that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: because I don't have a hard take on these guys.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: They're cheap enough. But again, in terms of the slate
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: as a whole, I'm still undecided on those guys. And
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: then the wide receiver room, we have some interesting things
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: going on here. Tibbs and Manning are still going to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: be your top two guys in all likelihood. But Garrett
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Oakley is questionable. And Garrett Oakley being questionable means Lincoln
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Cure is the next man up. His brother plays for
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Kansas and he was a super, super highly touted recruit
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: five-star we believe correct. Kenny, we were talking about this
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: pre-show and Lincoln Cure is one of the names that
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: specifically got up. We'll start with you. How are you
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: attacking this game? It's not a super high total, but it's,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's 55, I guess is a high enough total.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's, it's high enough for this slate. I think
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: the highest is Ole Miss, Missouri at like 59. So
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: it's not completely out of line by any means. Um, Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I guess this is probably, like, my favorite game of
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: the slate, like, to dig into.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I think there's a.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Lot of different ways you can go. For Kansas State, like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Avery's probably my favorite quarterback play on the slate. He's
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: obviously the 7,500 is a little sticker shock, and then,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: you know, it's still relative to the rest of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: quarterbacks on the slate. I really like him. Kansas is
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: kind of like a pass funnel. Like, I'm not going
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: to pretend like I've watched Kansas, but if you look
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: at some metrics, they're kind of a pass funnel. Kansas
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: state doesn't necessarily want to throw the ball, but we
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: have seen like Tibbs Manning Oakley have some good games
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: and what Bill touched on. If Oakley's out, which he
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: just popped up on the injury report yesterday and Lincoln
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Keir gets the chance and the will arsenal is already out.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Like Kansas state likes to throw their tight ends. Like
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I be all over that. And like, cause this, I
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: finally get a good opportunity to play this guy. Um,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: So it's definitely a spot I'm going to monitor. And
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: if not, I really, I like Oakley. I, he's going
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: to be unowned. I think all these past catches for
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Kansas state.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Will be unowned.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: As far as the running backs go, I'm probably going
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: to play some Rodney fields. I don't really feel great
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: about it, but gosh, they are cheap. And we've seen
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: a Kansas state running back pop off a time or two,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: but I'm going to kind of lean into that past
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: funnel take that I have with.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Kansas and the Kansas side.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Last week, I was all over Rayshon Sanford, next to
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: nothing ownership, nine fantasy points on 20 opportunities. I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: he had 78 and a touchdown. They still did what
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I wanted them to do, but it didn't show up.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Dylan Edwards.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I'm glad they priced him at 6,600. Cause you do
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: have to think about it. I think he's going to
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: get some ownership. It definitely isn't going to get out
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: of control and it kind of scares the crap out
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: of me, but I think the matchup is definitely there
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: for Dylan Edwards. I don't know if he's going to
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: be able to be efficient enough, really his, like he
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: had a good game against the mid Tennessee state. And
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: then I think he was 18 for 89 against Missouri.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: So like, He has a chance to have 20 opportunities here,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: and really, I think that's really good.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: In the, I guess, Kansas State's rush defense. Really like Marshall.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: He threw for over 300 yards last week. It's not very, like,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: I never feel good about playing a Kansas quarterback, but
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: it seems like they've been in this situation so much
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: over the years. Even when Jalen Daniels was there, they're cheap,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: and they will just garbage gut their way to 15
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: fantasy points, and sometimes they'll get some rushing touchdown variants,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: but that's kind of feels like this spot.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Love Pickett.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: I think he's really great, but Nick McMillan, he's going
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: to be unowned here just because Pickett's like to trend
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: as to be the wide receiver one. McMillan has shown
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: a ceiling. It's strictly a GPB play and like strictly
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: with Marshall for me, but it's an interesting way to
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: get a little different in this game, especially since Pickett's
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: probably going to pull some ownership, but yeah, I love
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: stacking this up any which way.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: So.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: A lot of options. Yes.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: It's a really good target game for the, from the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: cash perspective.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I think Marshall is one of your top cash quarterback
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: options at five, eight, uh, you know, tight, tight spread,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: even as a hundred dollars, they still have a mid
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: 20 point 25 and a half point team total. Avery
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Johnson's got that dual threat, you know, um, he's been
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: pretty solid as a DFS option, probably underachieved as a
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: real life quarterback, but for DFS purposes, he's always been
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: pretty solid. Marshall can, he's an exciting player. If you've
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: ever watched him play, he'll throw the ball up. No,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: he just plays with no fear and has a really
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: high ceiling at that spot. And in this kind of
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: rivalry game, it's really the atmosphere for that. Cam Pickett
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: is a guy that has been really his, his, just
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: his target share. His volume has been exploding since he's
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: been back off injury. And I think he's just kind
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: of taken over for McMillan and McMillan was getting that
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: target share early on all the condensed targets. And now
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: it seems like with pick it kind of back in
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: the full mode, it's shifting over. He's super affordable under five.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Either of those guys can be played together separately. I
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: do really like Dylan Edwards. I don't think I want
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: to play Dylan Edwards with Marshall and or pick it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I think Dylan Edwards is going to all run through
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Dylan Edwards. I do like him as a play. If
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I'm making multiple lineups or three max or something like that,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I really do think Dylan Edwards in this spot is
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: a pretty affordable running back, is the most talented guy,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: plus the revenge factor for whatever happened at Kansas State.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I really love that aspect of it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Kansas State is so hard to pick and choose with
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: the receivers because they just.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Kind of rotate through. It seems like Fields is more
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the runner, Jackson's more the pass catcher.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: All those skill guys play, and that's really hard to predict,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: but Avery Johnson is a really good do-it-all type quarterback,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: so he's something that you can play on his own
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: in all formats as well.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, Kenny. I love this game.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like it has a good mix of
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: floor plays and ceiling plays, low-owned pivots that have a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: huge amount of upside, so definitely a game worth targeting
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: in multiple formats DFS. Another game But I think we
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: may be targeting some. Virginia at SMU, a decently big spread.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Another total over 50. Bo Prabula, 6K flat. Maybe he's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: coming around a little bit lately. I know he threw
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: out a dud or two. It's been a little bit frustrating.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: But it's just the 6K, just kind of in that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: same range. Actually, one of the more expensive quarterbacks on
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the slate, which is weird to say for a $ 6, 000 quarterback.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Jaquel Middlebrook is a bit expensive and it's still a timeshare.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Although he did have a little bit bigger workload this
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: week and I don't mind the matchup against SMU's run defense.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: The wide receiver room though, Virginia has 22 guys out
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and most of them are in the wide receiver room.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: It feels like no Rico Flores, no Cam Courtney. So
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it looks like we'll have Deshaun Martin as wide receiver one,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Talir Coleman, Josiah Abdullah. I don't know. Like it is
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: really tough to pinpoint who's going to be the next
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: man up. Those are the three guys that I would say,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: maybe it means more for Dakota Twitty and John Rogers
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: at the tight end position. Then on the SMU side,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Kevin Jennings is a fair price. I'm not scared of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this Virginia defense. Rafael is without Jermichael Green eating into
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: his workload. So he's going to project as one of
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the better plays in the slate. Now, Christian Rhodes is
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a former four-star who is back. He's missed the entire
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: season so far, I believe, with a broken hand. So,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance he's in shape. Like, you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: still able to run with a broken hand. You just
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: can't play football. So at 4K flat, if you do
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: need savings, which, again, I don't know if you do,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: he might slip into that Drameco Green role a little
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: bit more so than the general public may think. Obviously,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: we still have Derek McFall who can get carries. He's
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: technically a wide receiver on DraftKings. But then I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: we have a little bit of the same old, same
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: old with these SMU receivers. Ymir Knight, number one, I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: think is like he's got the edge. But Yannick Smith,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Jalen Cooper are both on the field a ton. Randy
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Pittman's obviously out there at tight end. Virginia has been
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: getting beat by big wide receivers on the outside. So
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that is a little bit of an advantage to Yannick
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and Cooper. And they've also gotten beat by tight ends
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a couple of times, which is Pittman. Now, it's not
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to say Knight's a bad play, but I feel like
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I want a piece of this SMU wide receiver room
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: kenny but i just don't know where to where.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: To target yeah and i mean you're right where it
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: is the same old same old not maybe quite to
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: the extent it used to be but it does does
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: feel like that um you know yannick smith has been
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: chalk a lot this year i wasn't super high on
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: him coming into the year so it's taking a little
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: time for me to adjust but he's been a frustrating
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: chalk receiver from a gpp player's perspective because he's gotten
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: there on like a long touchdown or something, but I
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: think this week I'm in on it. Like I'm, it's
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: not anything I'm going to go overboard with, but it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of things are lining up for him. He's
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: playing the most snaps on his team. He's getting a
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: fair amount of targets. That being said, he could go
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: for 30 and bus, but he's cheap enough to where
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: it's worth taking that risk, even in a large field
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: type situation. That being said, I really like him your
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: night as well. He's a great like pivot Cooper.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's fine.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Randy Pittman, as bad as I want that to work out,
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm going to get there this week.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: So we dropped that down. You guys might want to
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: include him since I'm not playing Pittman finally. You know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: if Rhodes wasn't back, I'd be a little more intrigued
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: by McFall. But I, yeah, I think my favorite play
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: from SMU is Kendrick Raphael. Like I, he scored a
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: touchdown in like four straight games. He has multiple touchdown upside.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: I think that Raphael is kind of where I want
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: to start with SMU. I'm not opposed to having Raphael
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: and Smith in the same mat without Jennings. Yeah, without Jennings.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: And then Jennings, I think I'm going to force a
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: double stack with him. He's a little pricey compared to
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks. I really don't feel comfortable playing him. But
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: the way he's going to make you pay at $ 8, 200
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: is if he brings a couple of these cheap.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Guys with him. So that's how I'm going to attack
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: that side. Virginia.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Gosh, that first game this year, you would have thought
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Bo Pribula was going to be just like a Michael
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Hawkins-type fantasy player, and boy, that fell off quick. Still
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: have some interest in 6K. SMU's not that past form
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: of what they used to be. They've definitely been gouges
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: in the run game. So I don't mind Pribula. Ja'Kai
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Middlebrook's just too expensive for me, and Virginia can get
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: goofy with their running back rotations. I'm fine risking... Sha'Kai
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Middlebrook's 20 touches that he's not going to have a
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: usable fantasy score. Receiver's not really interested in. Maybe Deshaun Martin.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: He's kind of been ho-hum like all year. I don't
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: know if there's a ceiling there. But, I mean, if
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: he really wanted an option, he's there. I don't even
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: know if I'm going to play it in a 150 set.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: But love the SMU side. Virginia, not super enthused about.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: You said it right there, Ant. Kenny, I was really
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: ready to say my favorite play in this game. One
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: of my favorite plays of this latest Kendrick Raphael six,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: one super four ball running back.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: You know, he's going to get the volume.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Everyone behind him is pretty much banged up, doubled, you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: close to a 10 point favor with a 30 point
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: team total. I mean, everything screams great play there on paper.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: And that's what he's going to done. Obviously if we
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: both like him that much, but that's how the game goes. Um,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yannick Smith was that guy. What was he on all
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: those Thursday American slays when the ECU was on the slate?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: He was always like the third guy that was got
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the big play. Also SMU receivers. We've been doing this
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: how long together? I think we've been talking about SMU
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: receivers for that long for four or five years or so.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: The only thing with Pribula, he was definitely banged up
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: a few weeks ago.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: He ran a lot more last week getting back to
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: his old self.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: So if he could run, he's a much different player
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: than when he can't run because he's not a very
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: good pocket passer. They're so banged up. Martin just by
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: default volume, maybe, as a one-off play if you got it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: But at 5K, he's not even like a value play.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I'd much rather have Ymir Knight on the other side.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: But I do love Rafael on the spot. Likely going
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: to find his way and hit a lot of my lines.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And on top of that, with all of the injuries
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and value we have across the slate, Raphael might be
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: getting overlooked because there's going to be some Harvey ones
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that are cheaper than him on the slate. And I mean,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: decent matchups as well. So maybe that keeps his ownership
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit lower than it normally would. I think
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I think I still garnered some ownership, just maybe not
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: as much. All right. Thirty five minutes down. We're actually
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit behind our normal pace, which is fine.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: It's been a fun discussion. We talked about CFP, but
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: there's going to be some games we don't need to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: talk nearly as much about. I honestly think this is
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: one of them for as good of a college football
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: game as this is setting up to be for DFS purposes.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: It's a, it feels clear like Julian saying is cheaper
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: than he's been. And Indiana can get beat by the pass.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: So I think maybe you actually look at him this week.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: It's not as expensive to get him and Jeremiah Smith together.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Usually they're both nine K now Jeremiah Smith being nine seven.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: It still gets pretty close to that, but with the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: way this slate lays out, I don't think it's impossible
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to get to. Bo Jackson, I don't know that I
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: love the matchup. Even with Jacoby Jackson out, any 7,500,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: which is, I mean, you're going to get a low
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: on Bo in all likelihood. Again, just a situation where
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: on a more normally priced slate that we've seen this season,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: he'd probably garner more ownership. But it's really Smith is
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the guy, maybe you stack him with saying, if you
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: can get the rest of your lineup to work. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I don't mind taking a shot on Bo if he's
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: going to be sub 5%. And then on the Indiana side,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Hoover is cheap, tough matchup. I don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: love this pricing and timeshare of Richard and BB against
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. You know, would I be surprised if one
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: of them pops and has a flame next to their
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: name at the end of the day? No, but I'm not,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm personally not going to play it that way. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: then I think these Becker and Marsh, I think are
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: playable regardless. You're going to get them way lower owned
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: than you would expect. on a on any given slate
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: uh ian i mean is it really just smith for
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: cash and then everybody else is is if you're playing
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: gpp is there anything else you even consider for cash in.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: This game nothing more than what you said smith for
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: sure i don't it's just so hard to overlook at
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: this point you mentioned bow maybe his cash i don't
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: mind it either if you got 75 i don't care
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: if you know i don't mind playing them both together
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: um and then if you're trying to like pivot off
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: of Smith looking at Marsha Becker is, is fine.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: They're, they're, they're good, but it's a great game.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Fun.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Watch Smith and move on for me.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I, um, honestly, all I want to do right
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: now is just complain about how lucky Indiana got last week.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I'll try to, I mean, gosh, um, I guess the
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Ohio state side, I actually kind of have some intrigue
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: with saying this week, like I, we've seen him get
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: over 30 points.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Like, and like just throwing the ball.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's fully here this week, but
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: I don't mind that no ownership and cheap as he's
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: been strictly pairing with Jeremiah Smith. Um, Bo Jackson thought
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: it was like, Oh, Jackson or Jacoby's out.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Bo Jackson.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm not interested. This Indiana run defense is no joke.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Like I, um, I was really big on Jamal rule
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: last week and he got enough volume to get there,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: but it was just super inefficient. I will say not
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: to get completely off topic, but If you saw Jamal
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Rule run for that Indiana defender last week, that was
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: pretty sweet. That was the one highlight we had. But, yeah, Indiana,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I have interest in the two big receivers.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: Last week I really liked Nick Marsh just because I
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: thought that was a type of receiver that could beat Nebraska,
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: and that is one thing I got right, unfortunately, to
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: my dismay. But, yeah, not a ton of interest stacking this.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: It's just like Jeremiah Smith really is all that I'm
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: going to be having a large portion of.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Good real life football game for sure. And blossoming into
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a rivalry. Who'd have thought that with Ohio state, Indiana
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: five years ago, speaking of rivalry, oldest rivalry in the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: deep South. Auburn and Georgia, a little more one-sided than
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: some of these matchups have been in the past. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: don't really have much to say about Auburn. Like, Byron
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Brown's cheap, but we've already talked about quarterbacks that are
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in better spots for less. You'll get him at virtually
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: no ownership, but if I sat here on this show
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and recommended playing Byron Brown... in UCF or USF at Georgia,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: we might not have a show anymore. But if anybody
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: on this Auburn side, it's probably him. I don't really
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: like anything else. On the Georgia side, Gunnar Stockton, 7,200.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, again, it's a broken record with the pricing
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: on this slate. I don't know if we need to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: pair him, though, with a wide receiver because we just
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: don't know who it's going to be. Craig Dandridge at 3,100
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: had six targets last week, and he's, I think, maybe
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: coming around he's gotten some decent usage in a couple
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: of games this year. And just one of those young
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: guys that's blossoming, if he can find his stride early
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and keep consistency, this might be the lowest he's ever
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: priced again on any college football slate. But with Georgia,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: you just never know. The talker of this game is
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: what's going on in this running back room. Nate Frazier
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: last week, not on the report. I'm in a lot
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of lineups and just didn't play. Everybody thought he was
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: going to be back. Uh, same thing this week, not
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: on the report. Everybody thinks he's going to be back.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I am seeing a lot of news, like actual sources
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that say he's going to be back this week. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: don't remember exactly what the coverage was a week ago,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be like, are people going to
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: be gun shy? Like Dwight Phillips at 4,900 amazing spot.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: If Frazier doesn't go, if Frazier does, we just don't know. Um,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: we'll start with you, Kenny. Like, how do you, how
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: do you touch this running back room for Georgia and, uh,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like anything else in this game that you like?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Um, I guess I'll start with Auburn.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: No.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: And then Georgia, I, um, Auburn has the worst defense
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: on the slate as far as like grades go. I'm
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: super interested in Stockton 7,200. I almost kind of hope
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: Nate Frazier is supposed to be active because Dwight Phillips
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: has been pretty good and he's done it through the air.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: He's done it on the ground. I think his price
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: is still fine for this game environment. Um, I don't know,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: you know, Frazier does play. How much does that cap
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: a ceiling? But gosh, I just like, why would you
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: not play Nate Frazier last week and then play him
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: this week?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: I still kind of, it's almost, I remember a couple
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: of years ago or might even been last year, like
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Carnell Tate had like something similar happened. Like he wasn't
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: even on the report and then didn't play or something
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: So I don't, I don't know if some of that,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: stuff's going on. That being said, I'm almost going to
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: play it as if Nate Frazier is not going.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: To play.
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: And just roll out Dwight Phillips, not worry about Bo Walker.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: And then, yeah, as far as pairing Stockton, dangerous was
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: only one just because he's 3,100. But I just, I
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: don't see a big ceiling out of either of these guys.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Like if dangerous gets 18 points, like that's totally like
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: reasonable and, Like I could work for a GPP at 3,100,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: but these other guys I'm not interested in.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Dangerous.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I think just because of the close them in price,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: you know, a couple of catches and he hits value
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: for you and it lets you just open up your
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: lineup so much more. Some of those skill guys, a
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: little bit creative. I'm, I'm just going to avoid the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: running back room. I don't know what to think. Maybe
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: last week was a pseudo suspension.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, who knows?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Auburn, no, like you said. Stockton, I think, is a
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: good play for GPP. I'm not going to really look
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: at him. Comparatively, I think he's got a solid floor.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I don't quite know what his ceiling is. For the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: number one team in the country, do we still know
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: what Georgia is offensively?
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: No, that's tough. It's tough to pinpoint, like you said,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the running back room. The one thing about Gunnar Stockton
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: is I think his raw point ceiling is higher than
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: some of these 5k guys and you can get to him,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: but people aren't going to just because of the pricing.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: And it, it does feel like a GPP play to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: me as well, but with the cash trains in cash
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: contests this year and so many dupe lineups, making a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: pivot or two off of what you would consider your
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: lock cash lineup isn't the worst idea in the world.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Look for guys that have similar raw point ceilings or
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: better raw point ceilings. Um, and, and this week is
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the week to do it because you can, you can
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: get different without having to shift too much budget around.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, I think we can wrap up with this.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: We've got a couple of questions we'll wrap up with
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: at the end of the show. Um, but we'll get,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: we'll get to some of those specific questions, uh, once
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: we're through everybody. Missouri at Ole Miss, nothing to talk
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: about in this game, right? No storylines. Just Austin Simmons
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: going against his former team and the guy who took
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: his job, Trinidad Chambliss, out to show that he was
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the right choice, which I think from my perspective, he was.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: It is the highest total on the slate. Jamal Roberts
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: just running over everybody. He could be in Nate Shepard
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Price territory, and I'd still look at him just based
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: on how much they're running the ball. Caden Lee's probable now,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and that means it's probably just going to be Simmons, Roberts, Lee,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Aloubide on the Missouri side. Ole Miss' defense is still
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: not great. I mean, Florida put up, what, 50-some points
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: on them. And then on the Ole Miss side, Trinidad
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Chambliss at 8,700. That doesn't scare.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Me at all. All right, all right, all right, all right.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Kiwan Lacy was back last week, and had they not
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: just steamrolled Vanderbilt, may have gotten even more work than
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: he did. I would imagine he's back to a full
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: workload this week, even with a tough matchup. I think
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Lacey's considerable. And then Deuce, clear alpha, a bit expensive.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: You can find ways to get there this week if
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you want to. And then, I mean, Jontae Cook's been starting,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: but that's about all you can say about him. After Alexander,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: it's really just Odom. Maybe you get to... No, I'll
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: let you guys expand if you have anything beyond Alexander
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and Odom, but Ian.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: There's definitely some plays in this one. I think in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: all formats, cash included.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, Roberts has just been probably the best running
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: back the last few weeks. Multiple 200-yard games, touchdowns, just
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: volume like crazy. And he might be getting some relief
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: with Ahmed Hardy coming back from his incident. But it's
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: so hard to ignore what Missouri's offense has been doing.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: And Ole Miss defense hasn't been that impressive in these
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: big games. I think it's worked out for both quarterbacks.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Simmons getting his shot at Missouri, Chandler's obviously being at
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss, and Simmons just keep pricing them lower and
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: lower and lower. And we know where he's throwing the ball,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Lee and Lou today. So super enticing double stack there.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would probably play it as Simmons with
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: both those guys or Roberts. put Chambliss and Deuce on
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: the other side, something like that. It gets really expensive
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: for this game. Obviously, there's other pieces out there that
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: can make this lineup work. I'm not dipping too deep
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: into the Ole Miss side unless it's Deuce or Odom.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I do think Lacey's interesting.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: If you happen to get into that spot where you're
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: in that 7K range and you're looking at running backs,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: you know, he's priced around the same price as, like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: Shaquille Middlebrook and some of these other guys, and Lacey
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: is– he was all American type guy and he's just
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: coming back off injury. They might try to ride on
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit more this week and wouldn't be surprised.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: And this is kind of his bottom bottom out price
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: and ownership that we get for him for the rest
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: of the season.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't mind trying to get ahead of that
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: for one Lacey might pop off.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: If you're not playing Chambliss or Deuce in the lineup,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: he's certainly enticing as a run back himself.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Lacey I'm super like last week, I mean, they beat
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: Vanderbilt so bad. It was like Ole Miss was like
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: playing Troy or something like it was 35, three at half,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: I think. So they didn't really need Lacey. He started
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: at seven carries was fine, whatever. So I tend to
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: lean that he'll have a bigger role here. So I'm
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: like really intrigued by the spot. And then I remember
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: how good Missouri's run defense has been. And it kind
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: of scares me a little bit. I mean, Bothell had
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: a good game, but it was a lot of, you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: a lot of volume. He still wasn't overly efficient. That
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: being said, I'll probably still have some shares specifically in
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: Missouri stacks. Love Trinidad. Like, I think that I'm like,
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: I think I'm playing him over Levitt if I'm flipping,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: you know, in that range. And then I don't think
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: like Deuce is just, he's so expensive. And then when
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: you stack him with Trinidad, it's even worse. Almost like
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: Deuce is just like a run back. Like, I don't
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: even– I'm not even going to force the Deuce and
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: Chambliss thing. Really, the only receiver that I want to
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: take a shot on is Odom, tight end that, like,
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: I know is out there. The rest of these guys,
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: it's just a jumbled mess. But, yeah, a lot of
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: interest Ole Miss side. Missouri side. So, I mean, how
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: many extra fantasy points are Simmons and Lee going to
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: score because it's a revenge game, right?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Is that factored in?
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: No.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: I'm just kidding. But it is it is an interesting
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: spot I almost like I mean you guys touched on
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: everything like Jamal Roberts obviously they just keep giving him
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: the ball I think he's he's definitely my favorite like
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: pay up running back but Donovan Olagbude you say last
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: week I think he's been over 10 fantasy points every
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: game this season I think it's a nice bounce back
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: spot for him at like kind of a pivot over
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: everything that being said really like the Missouri side Simmons, like,
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: that was definitely, like, you know, the one you saw
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: this week that was sticker shock. But, like, do you
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: play– do you feel, like, in a cash lineup, like,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: do you feel like you need to play Simmons with
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Lee or Olubude? Like, I feel like you kind of
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: feel like you need to.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: With him, I would with a guy, but he's also
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: the same price as Marshall. Marshall could do it more
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: with his legs. I wouldn't need to feel like I
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: need to stack. Chambliss, I wouldn't feel like I need
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: to stack. Simmons– I think I would. I think if
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: you're looking to play Lee or, uh, I think you
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: do try to want to match up with Simmons. Just
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: it's like you said, it it's, you know, that's where
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: he's throwing the ball and that's all he does. He's
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: going to sit back there and throw the ball. Yeah.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: It's, I mean, if Simmons gets there, like Lee and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit, they are going to get him there.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: So you might as well pair one and go for
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that full ceiling.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: And you met a little bit is a really good
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: pivot this week because of the revenge factor, all focused
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: on Lee and Lee's been the guy and he's been
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: the guy and he's been the guy. Maybe this is
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: the week to do the little swivel and you save
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: 2k almost.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And like you said, Kenny, a little bit a with
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the zero last week, he sucks now. Right. So.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: No, I love the bounce back narrative almost as much
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: as I love the revenge narrative. So I could just
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: going to have to pick one in that game, I guess.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Moving on Alabama, Tennessee, another decently big rivalry. Keelan Russell
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: still has the upside at 8,500. The running back room,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, like it feels like it's going to be
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Treshawn Brown getting the work. It's still, still a bit
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: of a timeshare. And I personally think Crowell's the best
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: running back in the room. He's my favorite one to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: watch anyway, because he breaks so many tackles and he's
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: just a hard runner. The biggest news of this game
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: though is, is Ryan Coleman Williams being out. That leaves
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: lots of your Brooks and Rico Scott. Rico Scott at 4,500,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: kind of getting into that first click in territory with
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: his potential price per dollar. Brooks and Scott are the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: two guys that have, like they were already getting the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: attention with RCW on the field. It's just going to
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: be funneled even more, it feels like, without him. And
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: then on the Tennessee side, no phase on Brandon, it
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: sounds like. So George McIntyre getting the start. Our third $ 4, 600
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: quarterback on the slate. Again, not a week that you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: need to get there, but semi-intriguing. And then Deshaun Bishop,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: they might just lean on him with the quarterback situation
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the way it is and an 8K. You question it,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: get a little bit of pause, but for his workload,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I think you can still get there if you like.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: If you like him enough, and then Mike Matthews, Braylon Staley,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: really the two guys in this wide receiver room that, again,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: just question marks with McIntyre in this game. We'll start
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: with you, Ian. What are you looking at in this game?
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Rico Scott screams cash play to me, but I know
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: you've been high on Keelan Russell for a few weeks now.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I think you were early to that party. I'm actually
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: going to step out and let you guys discuss this game,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: but we'll start with you, Ian.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: I love Keelan Russell.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: The thing that, you know, as he's ascended his play,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: his running, his dual threat has, has gotten a little bit, his,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: his planned running, I should say, has gotten a little
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: bit down. He's the guy that was rushing, pushing a
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: hundred yards early in the season, but now he's starting
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: to figure out his passing game a little bit.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: And he's been fantastic.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: You know, if they win that game last week, if
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: some bounces go their way, he's probably the second favorite
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: for the Heisman right now. And they're sitting atop the rankings.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I'm still thinking this is, you know, a, it's not
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: a great spot for him. Just Tennessee plays on defense
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: and they slow the game down. We've seen them in
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: their bigger games, just find a way to slow the
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: game down, especially without phase on Brandon. I expect Tennessee
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: to try to do that same play again. I expect
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: this to be a little bit more kind of like
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: last week with the Alabama Georgia game where it's kind
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: of 2017 and the mid twenties on both sides, not
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: really hit touching the 50 point total that it is.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: Like Bill said, Bishop's the only guy on the Tennessee
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: side I could really think of, but at 8K, just
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: priced up way too much for a touchdown-plus underdog. And
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: he said, Rico Scott, let's hear Brooks. If you want
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: to pay down for the savings and if you end
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: up having money later, pay up for Brooks. I love
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: both those guys. With Ryan Coleman-Williams out, Keelan's going to
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: step back. He's going to pass the ball off and
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: it's going to run through him. Brooks and Scott are
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: guys that are on the field, on the field the
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: entire game. He's super talented guys. Really love both those spots.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: I would rank Scott ahead of Brooks in the cash
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: line just because of the salary savings. But if you
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: happen to find your way, I think that could be
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: a pretty nice pivot little switch, playing Brooks ahead of Scott.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling Scott might be a little bit
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: higher owned just because of his salary. But it could
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: be interesting. I would totally agree with Bill that EJ
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Grohl is the best running back. I think he'll take
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: over by the end of the year. It's still a
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: little bit too muddled right now to play it. I
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: love Keelan Russell. I don't think he's playable right now.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is the environment. I do kind
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: of see this as a slogger game, but I do
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: like the receivers in that room, and that's kind of
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: all I'm touching here.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I tend to agree that this definitely isn't a
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: very appetizing game compared to what else we have on
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: the slate. I thought about McIntyre at 4,600. That's awfully cheap. like,
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: especially it's like, do you play George McIntyre or like
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: Quentin Joyner? Just like looking on the screen here, I'd
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: like your George McIntyre and Rico Scott.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: It's kind of hard. Like when you put it like that, it's,
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: it's something to think about that being said, I'm not
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: going to get there. They saw Bishop. I, I'm, I'm
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: going to play some of him. I don't like the matchup,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: but I just, I think that if Tennessee is going
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: to keep this game close, it's going to be because
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: I control the ball and really lean on Deshaun Bishop. Um,
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: So that's kind of the type of lineup that I
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: play him in. Not anything else on the Tennessee side.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Alabama side, I mean, I like a Russell and the
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: receivers like you guys talked about. One thing, Rico Scott
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: and RCW were dominating the snaps, and then Brooks was third.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: He was definitely like when they go run 11 personnel,
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: he's the guy coming in. So I don't know if
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: he's going to be– I'd assume that like 12 personnel,
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: he's going to be in there. but it wouldn't shock
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: me if like maybe a Meadows or Rogers got like
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: more snaps than him. So that's kind of why, like,
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: I do like prefer Rico Scott just cause I know
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: he's out there all the time. Obviously I don't think
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: he's as talented as RCW, but I think he's, he's
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: just fine. So yeah, not a lot on this game.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, potentially it'll be another good real life game.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: A lot's going to rest on George McIntyre and what
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: he can do with this offense. I think Alabama's offense
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: is going to be fine. They definitely take a hit,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: but they can manage. Arizona State at Texas Tech, definitely
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: some talking points in this game. Cutter Boley, I mean,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: fine at 6'7. But, like, the thing, like, I imagine
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: he'll be throwing a lot in this game. And even
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Colorado almost threw for 300 yards. So the potential's there.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Part of that reason is because you just throw the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: ball to Reed Harrison and Marion Miller, and you're set. Like,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: that's what they've been doing all season. I imagine they're
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: going to continue doing that in this game. So at
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: least in the passing game, we know where the usage is.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Last last week, though, Cardi Mack, a four star freshman
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: and converted quarterback, got run in the running back room
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and exploded. Kyson Brown only has 12 carries over the
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: last two games. So it seems like there's a shift
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: in that running back room. He's sub five K. I
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: just I mean, the matchup is something you definitely have
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: to consider on a normal again on a different slate.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe you go there, but you definitely have to think
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: about what is it worth against Texas Tech, a team
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: that I think I'd rather throw on than run on.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: And then Will Hammond is cheap as well. He's going
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: to pop just because of the team total, because of
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the advantage that Texas Tech has. Thomas Castellanos' eligibility is
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: still up in the air. So we think we're going
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: to get full Hammonds. The biggest news is Cameron Dickey
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: being out. So we're going to get a lot of
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Williams at 6,700 as well. He's kind of getting
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: into that first click in territory for running backs too.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: And I think Williams is going to get his pass.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: But the other question is, is Quinton Joyner going to
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: get the Cameron Dickey role right away? Is he going
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: to fill that slot? That's not something we can necessarily answer.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: If you do play him, just don't get him confused
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: for his brother, Quintalen Joyner, who also plays for Texas Tech.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And then in the wide receiver room, Kenny Johnson had
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: a down game against Colorado. Coy Eakin had a down
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: game as well. A big part of that is because
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Terrence Carter was back and had eight catches on nine targets.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: So the one thing about Kenny Johnson is that he
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: still had the target share, Coy Eakins' target share fell off.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: The wide receiver room, I do like Terrence Carter, Kenny
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Johnson some as well. Maybe the $ 400 makes a difference. Kenny,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: how are you approaching Arizona State, Texas Tech? I think
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: obviously there's some cash plays, but how are you looking
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: at it for GPPs?
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: I guess I'll start here with Jacoby Williams is probably
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: my favorite play on the slate. I'm going to be
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: obscenely overweight on him. I think he's in his own
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: tier as far as running back plays go this week.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: As many good running back plays as there is, Jacoby
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Williams to me just feels like an awesome spot. We've
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: seen Texas Tech really focus on the run game when
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: they're ahead in the game.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: By quite a bit.
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: I think Texas Tech blew out Arizona State. I don't
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: think Arizona State's very good. I love Jacoby. I also
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: really like Quinton Joyner. I think that this is a good,
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: like 4,600, he's a super fair price. I don't think
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: it's a crazy ZPP play to play them both and
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: just hope, like, it wouldn't shock me if Jacoby Williams
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: and Quinton Joyner combined for 50 fantasy points. And where
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: their prices are, that's totally fine. So going to have
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: my fair share of Joyner.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Hammond.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Obviously the price tags there. I just don't, he's just
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: not that runner.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: He used to be that, that, you know, kind of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: wild man back there.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: That being said, I'll have some shares of mine, like
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: a Texas tech onslaught, just because the wide receivers are
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: so cheap. I'm not going to go beyond those top
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: two guys and Kenny Johnson and Terrence Carter, but yeah,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: I love the Texas tech side, Arizona state. Reed Harris
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: is the only guy I'm going to play as a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: run back with these Texas tech guys. He's obviously got
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: a big price tag, but it should come with super
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: low ownership. Yeah, that's really pretty much it. Like, man,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: Jacoby Williams, 6,700 is just a smash.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's a cash play right there. You know,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: you said it. Not much else. I'd be a little
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: bit weird about anybody else in this game.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: There's Hammond. It's kind of just not great. You know,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Kenny Johnson is fine. You know, he's pretty good salary relief,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: him and Terrence Carter. but Jacoby's probably enough. And then
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: the other side, like you said, great plays, just too expensive.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: You know, that's GPP only to me besides Jacoby.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yep.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: It's for cash. It's pretty straightforward in my opinion as well.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, Duke, big rivalry game on the hardwood, Billy Edwards, cheap,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: not my, like his floor is safe at 5,000. I think,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I think you can consider him if you need to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: go down that far. The running game, just too much
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: of a timeshare. Ben Hall does seem to be the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: number one, but we're going to see these other guys
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: as well. So I'm not touching that. Wide receiver room,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for Jordan Shipp. He needs a touchdown.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: He's got to get a touchdown one of these weeks.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I imagine he would probably be 6,500 if he scored
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: a touchdown this year. But he's projecting super well. Jelani Thurman.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: is projecting pretty well as well. It's really those two guys.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, Tretch has seen a little bit of an uptick.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Sadler and Easter are capable of a spike game, but man,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: it feels like every week we get the, is Jordan
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: ship even out there at some point during, during a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: slate that North Carolina is on. So it'd be nice
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: to see him actually, actually find the end zone a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: week that I'm probably, probably going to play him again.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: On the other side, Duke, like why play Walker? You
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: get whenever it is $ 200 cheaper. I will say they
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: threw the ball a ton. last week or last time out.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And so I think there is a path if Duke
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: does fall behind. And if that's the case, I mean,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Haseley had 10 targets. Jared Richardson got the score and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: a decent target share. Even Burton got plenty in the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: passing game. Not usually a passing game we're interested in,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: but if you think North Carolina is going to get
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: out to an early lead, maybe we see more. Nate Shepard,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I said earlier this season, even if he's 10K, I'm
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: playing him. Here we are. $ 10, 000 running back, well warranted.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: He is questionable on the report, though. And UNC gave
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: up more than five yards of carry to Clemson and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Haven't faced a ton of prolific running backs
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: outside of that. Just is he questionable because of his
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: workload so far this year? Does that mean even if
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: he goes, they're going to pull on the reins a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: little bit? These are questions that you're going to have
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: to answer throughout your own process if you want to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: play him. If he doesn't go, C.J. Campbell is a
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: viable backup. I mean, he was a solid G6 running back.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: He's been, I want to say he's averaging like four
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: and a half to five yards of carry when he
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: does play this year. And Shepard's success is a lot
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: of Shepard, but his offensive line has to play a part.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Ian, start with you in this North Carolina
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Duke game, a lower total than we're seeing across the slate.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: But I think with pricing, there's still some spots you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: could potentially get to.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: You know, ship ship is reliable, especially in the cash line.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: He's pretty cheap. He's pretty, he's just gets targets. You know,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: he's been that way for a few years and it
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: hasn't changed this year. And maybe touchdown variance is on
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: your side because if he gets one, he's a smash play.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: So I do like that. It's just a hard game
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: to kind of play. Billy Edwards at 5K in a
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: different slate would stand out. I just think, you know,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: it's just, I don't really need it right now, you know?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I think Shepard's a big question mark because
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: if Shepard's in, how could you not? It's kind of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: a coin flip between him and Jeremiah, right? if he's
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: out certainly opens up for Campbell again, but Campbell's not
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: like in that 4k range where I'd want to be
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: like an auto plug and play because there's enough guys
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: in the 6k range that I can still debate with
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: and say like this guy or Campbell, like, like we said,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Raphael or Campbell, they're not that far off in salary.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Williams is only one K more than Campbell.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: So even if shepherd is out, I wouldn't like automatically
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: plug and play Campbell there in a cash lineup. If
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: shepherd is in, I do consider that and try to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: think about how you want to build that, whether you
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: play him or Jeremiah Smith, it might be pretty hard
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: to get them both together though.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: You can do it. I built, even before all the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: injury news, I built one that wasn't pretty, but it
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: was at least legitimate. It's possible.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: And if Shepard is out, I would be more in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: line to play a guy like Halsey or Richardson, maybe
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: somewhere on the passing side of Duke. But it's not
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: going to be a super big target game besides those
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: couple guys we mentioned.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, last week I had a really big stance on
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: Jordan Shipp. And, I mean, he was fine. But it's
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: like he's the only guy that I can think has, like,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: a 12-point floor and an 18-point ceiling, like the way
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: the season has went.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, like you said, he has a touchdown. Like I'm,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: I'm back in on chip. Like I do, I can't,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: I don't have all the stats in front of me, but,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: and I know Colin Dixon's really good, but just thinking
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: of the type of performance he had against Duke last week,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: I really want to play Jordan Allen, but I got
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: scared away of the weather and he had a really
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: good game for Georgia tech against Duke. So like another
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: great spot for Jordan ship. Jelani Thurman's obviously been pretty
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: dang solid too.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I like him.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I'll play some Billy Edwards, but it's going to have
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: Nate Shepard in the lineup. So, Bill Belichick's allure, wasn't
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: it always like, we're going to take away your number
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: one option? Are they going to be able to take
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: away Ned Shepard? Because if they do, Duke is not
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: going to be able to do jack shit. But yeah,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: I think what Nate Shepard, he rolled his ankle but
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: finished the game last week. I'm not overly concerned, but
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: definitely a spot to watch. Hopefully we get some clarity
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: tonight and he's just probable. But yeah, I don't mind
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: him hazily, but you know, he's a tight end, but
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: beyond that on the Duke side, I don't like any
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: of the pass catchers and, you know, Haisley, I like
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: kind of want to stack him, but I don't, I
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: don't really know who to stack him with. Like as
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: far as like North Carolina runbacks, I, I guess like
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: a ship, I don't know. I almost prefer him in
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: a game stack, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: what happens.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Love Jordan ship. And yeah, Nate Shepard.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Nate Shepard or Jeremiah this week. I don't know.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: It's something about Nate Shepard being 10,000 instead of 9,900.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: It's that threshold.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, we had the same conversation around Caleb Hawkins
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: last year, and I think he went for 45 points.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: And, you know, if Jordan Shipp scores a touchdown or two,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: maybe it's going to be Shipp at Nation with two
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Ps this week because he'll bring your lineups to the top.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: He should be our favorite player, right, is our name saying.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: A double tech game, Georgia tech at Virginia tech, Georgia
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: tech coming off its first FBS win of the year.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: The aforementioned Duke blue devils. That game was, was hideous.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Unless you're Trillane Maddox. If you're Trillane Maddox, it was
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: a great game. And now justice Haynes is doubtful. I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: think a lot of eyes are going to be on Maddox,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: but does that mean the pivot is in this passing game?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Alberto Mendoza is also cheap. Jordan Allen. 10 catches on
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: 11 targets last week, showing why he's the alpha. I
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: still love me some Kevin Roach because he's a ginormous
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: tight end, big red zone target, and he's athletic. On
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech side, one of the higher team totals
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: on the slate, Ethan Grunkemeier's prop, I believe, is over
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: 300 yards at 7K. It's hard to imagine he gets overlooked,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: but just with the way the slate works out, he might,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: and he has one of the higher ceilings, in my opinion.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Overton, One of those first guy ends averaging nearly
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: 20 touches a game for targets in every FBS game
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: and 6,500, very friendly. Marcel's Hawkins a bit too expensive,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: although I feel like he could hit double digits. And
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: if he gets the touchdown variants, get there as well.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: And then in the wide receiver room, it's basically Reynolds
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: and Brown. I know it's a high heat is going
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: to be back and he's been price, but that's, that's
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: like an extreme dart throw. It really has been Reynolds
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and Brown. Ian, like a couple of cash plays in
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: this game for sure. Maybe, Maybe three or four, just
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: looking at it. How are you approaching the Tech game?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: I love the Tech game. I'll start with Virginia Tech side.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: One of the guys, I think we mentioned a couple
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: running backs, Jeff Overton. one of my favorite running back
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: plays of the slate you talk at mid k mid
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: 6k you.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: Know he's going to touch the ball he catches the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: ball he runs the ball uh.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: 10 point favorite 33 point team total what's not to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: like about overton as a running back play there really
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: think he's in a really good spot here um And again,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: it's what you're talking about. So Maddox, yeah, great spot.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: He's going to get the workload carry. He's a 10-point underdog.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: He's 5'4, so for a backup running back, he's not
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: like in the 4Ks. He's only 1K less than Overton,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: who is a proven commodity as an alpha running back
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: as a 10-point favorite.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: So like the total opposite game script.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: So where Maddox might get the attention because it's the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: new backup or the new backup running back coming to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: the starting play. I just like to flip the other
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: side and be like, I love Overton in this spot.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I love Gronkmeyer. You mentioned him. He's cut so much
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: upside as well. You know, they actually hit their team total.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: That's five touchdowns. Where are those touchdowns going to come from?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: It's going to come from Overton. It's going to come
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: from Gronk. It's probably going to go to Case O'Brown
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: and Luke Reynolds because that's where it's gone all year.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: I really predictable Virginia texts. I really, really love this spot.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Awful double stack, single stack, play the running back only.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: I think you could even play four in a line.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not certainly my cash. I think you can pick
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: and choose cash, but wouldn't mind it. Uh, you mentioned
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Allen on the other side, Georgia tech.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: I do think Albert Mendoza is pretty interesting because, uh,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: I think that would be your pivot off of Maddox.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: If you want him to get a little bit different,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: cause he's, he's even cheaper at that. Um, you know,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: he has some running ability and just put up some points.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: If he ends up throwing the ball from behind, they
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: threw the ball tongue last week. He'd really allow you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: to pay up for if you were trying to get
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: to something like Shepard or Jeremiah Smith.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: And if you look at it, is Virginia tech just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: Missouri dressed up as a worse football team?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Like the way the usage funnels, it's very similar. I mean,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: there's an extra running back that gets a little bit
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: more run, but the usage is, it's pretty clear.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: Good good good comparison yeah i i'm uh i mean
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: i have the interest that you guys do it's kind
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: of cool like the top three running backs are all
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: from a tech school this week so if you just
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: build a lineup with everybody from a tech school you
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: should have a pretty good pretty good lineup um so
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: yeah i guess the thing i wanted and you kind
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: of touched on it ian like I was initially, I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: didn't have Mendoza in my pool and I kind of
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: got to looking at it. And Virginia tech has been
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: a little susceptible to rushing quarterbacks. Not like Mendoza is
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: running a ton, but with Haynes out, um, Hoseley has
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: been out. Maybe we see him run a little more
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: at 5,300. I don't mind taking the shot in this
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: kind of game environment, especially as just a straight pivot
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: to Maddox. Um, like some Jordan Allen Roche, I'm, deciding
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: on pinson i'm not really interested in but i do
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: have like some interest in georgia tech passing a little
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: bit um yeah and then virginia tech really don't need
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: to add on to anymore but i will say the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: way that overton fails is if i mean he's not
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: really uh i mean he had a lot of carries
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: against boston college but that game was a total washout
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: um you know he doesn't get his 20 carries and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: doesn't get all the touchdowns just because he is splitting
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: with hawkins like i think he's a great play i'm
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: as to where Maddox fails with Mendoza, and that's like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: circling back to Jacoby. That's why I feel like Jacoby's
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: at a tier of his own. But, yeah, I like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: this game. You guys covered it pretty well.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I said, that's the one spot where
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Virginia Tech's structure differs from Missouri is just that Hawkins
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: does get pretty involved. Like there's a chance he has
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: double-digit DK points in this one. Looking at this last game,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to spend a whole lot
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: of time on it. Penn state at Michigan state or
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: at Michigan Rocco Beck is cheap back to a price
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing at Iowa state, but just
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: not a great matchup. We have a three headed running
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: back attack. I, I mean, they can't decide if they
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: want Carson Hanson or James peoples to be the guy.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: It has been, it was people's and it was Hanson.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Quentin Martin still gets involved enough. Like the wide receivers
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: soul is like, Ben Unleashed is the alpha a little
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: bit more, but he's expensive. And just this slate, I
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: don't need to go there. Eskilsen. Rapalia has been the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: better of the two tight ends if you want dip
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: and dunk short passes. He's got like 10-point upside just
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: on receptions alone. So if you want to get real greasy,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: that's probably where I'd attack. On the Michigan side, Bryce Underwood.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I guess he can get there with his legs, but
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: you got to wonder if he's still on bench watch.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Tommy Carr is looming. It hasn't been as much of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: a talker lately. I do want to attack Penn State
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: on the ground. Marshall and Heider are both on my radar.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Those are maybe my favorite plays in this game overall.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: But man, they just have not been able to get
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: it going. Marshall had a touchdown against Minnesota. I know
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: that's a different matchup than Penn State, but they split.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe you go Hyder because he's cheaper. Maybe he finally
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: hits his hype that he's the potential that he has.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: And the pass catchers remain the same. If you're playing
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: a pass catcher, it's Buchanan or Marsh. Ian, this is
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: a cash nightmare, right?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not touching this game. It's like you said, Tommy
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Carr could take over Underwood. You got a split backfield.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: You got receivers who are pretty good, but I mean,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: they're kind of priced up, and I'm not touching the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Penn State side. One of the lower team totals on
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: the slate. With all the games that we've talked about,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: these are two marquee programs. Give me all the other games. Like,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: give me the game before 10 times out of 10.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I have some interest in Michigan.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I figured you would.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: Of course you do. There's no surprise there.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: So this is the other game where it's the stoppable
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: force versus the movable object. Michigan's run game. So I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: don't know why I got into this so much this morning.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: So Jordan Marshall, he should be set at minus 200
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: for 11 carries because that's exactly what he has had
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: every game this year besides one where he had 10.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: So am I paying $ 6, 900 for 11 carries? Absolutely not.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Heider's game logs haven't looked good. I don't think I'm
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: going to get there, but I like the angle of
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: attack to attack this Penn State rushing defense.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Northwestern ran for 422 yards against Penn State. Like, that
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: is nuts.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: And it seemed like every time he looked up, Hyman
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: was running for 25-plus. It was insane. They busted him, too.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: Is that Chip Kelly or is that Penn State? Legitimate question.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think a mix of both.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: Because Northwestern ran all over Indiana also.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: Well, and I mean, yeah, they– Yeah, Penn State's just–
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: you know, they had that opening part of the season with, like,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: all the max goals and their defense looked good. They
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: get to pick their play and it hasn't been. But, yeah,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: I guess long-winded way of saying have some interest in Hyder.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: So the receivers for Michigan, if you look at their
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: target leaders, it's Buchanan 39, Marsh 38. I think it's
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: Hogan Hanson's the next guy with six targets. That is
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: an insane target share. Like, they do have three touchdowns
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: to score. I think I love Buchanan and some Marsh
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: this week. USC torced them through the air. Tannock Hines
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: had a great game. Mosley had a great game. I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: have some interest in the Michigan receivers. Like Underwood's probably
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: my least favorite to play, but I'm naturally just going
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: to play him because I like the Michigan receivers. But, yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: I don't– I mean, but like I said, I mean,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: Michigan has definitely been the stoppable force. So what's going
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: to prevail here? I definitely have some interest in Michigan, though.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a gross-looking game, but like I said, I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: knew that there'd be some GPP goodness here, like just
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: some gross leverage. And it's not even that gross, like
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the targets there. So a decent spot for
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: those guys. That's going to do it for the slate.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I know we're pushing up on lunch breaks ending, so
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: if either of you guys need to get out of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: here at any point, we're going to get to some
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: questions that were asked. This one.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Talks about DKGPP tournaments. Which ones do you have the
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: best success? What are your favorite ones to play in?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I think this is relevant this week because we have
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: 100K up top, a contest we're not used to seeing.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: So for me, I play a ton of GPP. I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: get into single entry. I'll enter once in a while
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: into the flagship, but I don't usually max it, so
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: probably not. It's probably negative EV for me, but sometimes
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I get FOMO and just have to throw a dart
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: once in a while. But Generally speaking, I followed the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: big guy's rule of thumb. My favorite contests are the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: one that have 10% of the pool up top, 50%
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: of second or 50% of first to second, 10% of
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: first to 10th. And that way it's flatter payouts. Like
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: in the contest this weekend, it's a third to first. Awesome.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: 100K up top. You could hit the nuts lineup and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: still lose by two points, get fourth place and drop
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: from 100,000 to 5,000. Not that $ 5, 000 is anything to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: scoff at, but that's a massive drop off. And that's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: what you get in a lot of these 150 max.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: So I prefer single entry just because of the flatter
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: payout structure. Kenny, I know you play GPP a lot more. Ian,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: you've dabbled a little bit this year and had some success.
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  Speaker 1: What do you guys feel about this?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, um i'll talk real quick then i have to
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  Speaker 3: get out of here um because i know kenny's got
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the gpp knowledge experience this year i've
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: been doing a little bit more than 150 bills in
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  Speaker 3: the five dollar it's a little bit flatter payout i
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  Speaker 3: just kind of been enjoying more of a gpp build
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  Speaker 3: just because the i typically play lower entry higher dollar
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  Speaker 3: amounts with single entry three maxes um when they have
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: the higher dollar tournaments I jump into those but I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: feel like I've been kind of you know with the
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: cash range everything kind of coming out I've just been
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: trying to find new ways to dabble and I've just
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: been playing with the 150 maxes so I stick to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: that $ 5 just because of the flatter payout like you
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: mentioned Bill just so I'm not like burning through my
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  Speaker 3: bankroll the entire time trying to chase it because I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: still am doing some of the smaller entry ones which
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: is ultimately I like the three max or less Because
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  Speaker 3: then I'm hand building. I'm trying to mix and match
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: some games, some stacks, just in that way. So a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of exploration just into that, just kind of
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: trying to mix and match some different ways of building,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: just building some different strategies, different ways to attack based
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  Speaker 3: on slate to slate. But, yeah, I'm going to have
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: to get out of here anyway and let the GPP master, Mr.
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  Speaker 4: Hamhock, there talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Cheers, Ian. Go educate some young buddies.
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  Speaker 4: You guys have a great weekend. Good luck to Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Cheers.
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  Speaker 5: You know, obviously I play usually like, so, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: comparative to NFL, NFL, there's such a wide selection of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: contests and like the contests are never going to be
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  Speaker 5: as good for college. You know, I guess bankroll aside,
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  Speaker 5: like I always thought the $ 44, like the marching band,
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  Speaker 5: it's like a six max. It's usually like 5k to first. Um,
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  Speaker 5: it's great if you're like hand building and like want
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: to run different stacks around, which usually I do 150
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  Speaker 5: set and then I'll play like five to eight lineups, um,
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  Speaker 5: through contests and just like work different stacks together. Um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and they're not lineups that are necessarily like
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: going to be like the gross stuff, but like, it'll
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: be just like a simple pivot. Um, you know, like
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: this week, like one I could think of is like,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: Marshall's probably going to be a little more played than Avery.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: So play Avery.
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  Speaker 5: And then I want to play Dylan Edwards. And I
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: like that matchup better anyways. And then just leave Marshall out.
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  Speaker 5: Just little pivots like that. And that $ 44 works nice.
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  Speaker 5: But that'd be my favorite one overall as far as
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: structure and, you know, building goes.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Kenny also had a follow-up question. whether we mostly
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: hand build or use SaberSim to help make the lineups or,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, for this question, we can just talk in
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: general optimizer of choice. You know, we have SaberSim. I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: love SaberSim. I'm still weaning myself off of the previously
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: used optimizer. So I kind of dabble in both. For
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: my purposes, I typically will run on an optimizer and
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: see what it's spitting out and then hand build from
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: there because I'm usually only building like one to five lineups.
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  Speaker 1: So for 150, I presume you use an optimizer quite
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: a bit, but what, what kind of hand building do
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: you just set rules or do you supplement with hand
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: building on top of the optimized optimization?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's almost like two separate things for me.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: Like I, like I'll build my 150 set with the optimizer.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really factor that into my hand builds. I
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: would say one thing like the stone 2.0, the way
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: that you can work lineups in there, like that's really
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: good for hand building. Cause you can kind of like
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: lock your sack in that's lower owned. And then like
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: click optimize, like if I already have a couple of
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 5: different pieces, then I'm okay to pay the best pieces
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: or however that, you know.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Shakes out.
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  Speaker 5: But that, I would say the stone 2.0 is like
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: really good for hand building. Um, just to kind of
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: see like, you know, rather than a bunch of scrolling,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: you know, you go lock in a stack and go
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: from there. Um, but that's kind of like how I
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: build like I'll just, um, yeah.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: And I pulled up, I pulled up the stone 2.0
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: for NFL just because our, our college football one's not
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: set yet. Um, but yeah, it's, it basically just puts
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the stone into spreadsheet and column form. So it's sortable.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Once we have cash players, Mark, you can filter by
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: cash high upside GPP. If you want to target specific games,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: you can target specific types of games, uh, specific teams.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: And then, I mean, obviously you can also build a
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: lineup and save it. There's a star up here somewhere.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: And it goes into these save lineups. I think you
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: can do up to 20, but then you can export
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: and upload. So it's great for 20 maxing. There's certainly uses,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: but it's just, it's simplicity at its best. It keeps
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: everything really simple, puts all the relevant information right in
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: front of you. Something we added new to ShipIt Nation
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: this year. And I think it's just a super good
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: tool to help build lineups without. And it's not, for
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: those that haven't used optimizers, it's definitely not as intimidating
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: as like a Saber sim or even like our previous
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: part of the solver, like Those things are like they
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: can be daunting when you just look at them as
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: a new user. The Stone 2.0 is super simple. In
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: terms of this, how many guys do we have in
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: our pool for college football? Typically, like, again, I don't
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: want 50 max. When I 20 max, I typically like
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: to keep it to like three to five quarterbacks and
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: keep my player pool super tight. Like I want to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: build if I'm playing, especially in higher entry tournaments, I
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: want to build to win the thing, not necessarily to Duke.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: and split or min cash every lineup. Um, so I'm,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: I'm looking to get to the top. It's so it's
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: not necessarily a certain number of guys it's week to week, but, um,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: usually three to five quarterbacks, a handful of running backs.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: And then I like pairing pass catchers when applicable. So
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: that'll vary even more like is, are my quarterbacks guys
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: that I want to pair or are they guys that
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: I like for their legs? Um, so it's a really
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: variable question week to week. Kenny, how do you feel
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: about it in the one fifties?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: Um, I guess for me, like it's usually bigger. Like
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: I think this week I've got it. Usually I'm not
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: ahead of the game this week, but I am, but
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: I think I'm like at 68 players, but like a
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: lot of times, like I'll have like 2% of a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: receiver that's forced in a stack, like Nick McMillan, I'll
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: play like 3% of them this week only in Marshall,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: you know? So I'm not playing that many lineups with
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: guys like that. So my player pool gets bigger, but
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: in a way I'm playing them is like to unlock
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: their ceiling. So I don't feel like I need to
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: have such an abundance. Um, of players per se. But yeah,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 5: as far as uniques go, like that's kind of a
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: dangerous game. I'll do, I do two on like main slate,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: but like if it's three games or less, I'm only
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: one unique.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: And the size of the slate definitely matters. You know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: last night you just play Texas state and move on.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Like I think the optimal might've been quarterback and two
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Texas state running backs with no wide receiver. Yeah.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a little frustrating.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: But then just one more, one more. This is about tonight.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: I actually misread this question earlier and pull it up.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Any dart throws below 4k for tonight's three game slate.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I mean like Jamar Harris and Robbie Washington are exactly that.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: Like they're dart throws. Those are the two guys that popped.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys right at 4k that I
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: don't mind.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Is it Burhan?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Is he flat 4k flat?
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Uh, but I did want, Oh, topic is the guy
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: that I was thinking of at 4k flat. Uh, but
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: in terms of tonight's slate, I, if, if he's going
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: to be low on, I'm going to be all over
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Jamari McClure for Tulane. Uh, Memphis has run defense sucks.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: McClure was back last week, um, and had some decent
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: run in the, like everything I've seen is like, Oh,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: this just adds a new dynamic. He's been hurt this year,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: but McClure is my tip of the day, I guess,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: for Friday night slate. I'm going to be playing him.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: He's not going to save you money, but I think
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: he's going to be low on just because he hasn't
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: played much this year. But I think he could ascend
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: to RB1 tonight, and I want to be ahead of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: that curve for Tulane.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've thought about that myself. It's a little scary.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: I wish he was a little cheaper.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. Absolutely.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: But he should– not have much ownership yet. Honestly, I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: haven't really dug into tonight that much, but, um, you know,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: and even above 4k gets pretty or below 4k gets
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: pretty gross, but, um, you know, I don't know. I
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: there's gosh, I wish I'd looked on the slate a
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: little more. So I give you a better answer. I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: don't mind like a coastal Carolina, like the gardeners and
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: Englishes of the world. Um, just kind of looking at it,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: but I've really got to build a ton. I will say, um,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: my probably biggest stand tonight is like Washington doubles with
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: Roebuck and proceed and Lawson and even one of the
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: two tight ends.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Um, yeah. Did they improve a quarterback in the passing game?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, I didn't, didn't watch that game as much. Um,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: I mean the first half I didn't even Vaughn and
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: me was dominating, but if you're box score watching, it
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: definitely looked that way.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, nice. Uh, We can wrap it up there. I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: love talking shop, talking contests, talking builds, all that stuff.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate the questions, even a little bonus Friday
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: night coverage. But we are going to end the show
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: the same way we do every single week. Big guys
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: rule number one, college football is fun. Enjoy building your lineups.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Enjoy the sweat. Enjoy the process. Be thankful that we
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: have college football to watch on our TVs. Hopefully we
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: see those lineups climb to the top, but if they don't,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: we at least have an entertaining product every single week
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: in front of us. But most of all, don't take
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: any of these days for granted because we never know
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: which one's going to be our last. But with that,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: for my man Kenny, for Ian, I'm Dollar Bill. We're
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: going to wrap up this Ship It Nation college football show.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Let's go out onto the streets this weekend and ship
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: one for the big guy.