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Red Sox lose Casas, Rangers fire OC, Dodgers promote Kim, Jays sign Turnbull, McCullers returns · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hey, busy, busy news weekend, and I do want to
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Speaker 1: hear about Baltimore too. Hey, jay Mine, just give me
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Speaker 1: a clip notes. We're going to get into the team.
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Speaker 2: Uh we got a rain delay and we still only
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Speaker 2: had a two hour and twenty minute game, which was awesome. Uh,
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Speaker 2: Baltimore is not hitting the ball very well right now.
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Speaker 2: I know they scored some runs, but they do not
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Speaker 2: hit lefties or the worst team against lefties in baseball.
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Speaker 2: My flight got diverted my way up there. That was amazing.
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Speaker 2: I had some hotel issues. We're not going to get
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Speaker 2: into that because we're not allowed to. And uh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that was it. It was a hell of a weekend.
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Speaker 2: Hell of a weekend. Wow, Not if you're traveling, though,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't a hell of a weekend. Not if you're
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Speaker 2: on the plane and you know, walk to a hotel
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Speaker 2: one in the morning they tell you, oh, just kidding,
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Speaker 2: we had a reservation for you, but it doesn't really
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Speaker 2: count because we're just kidding.
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Speaker 1: Kratz has nothing for you. Anyway, Let's go over real
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Speaker 1: quick before we charge. Attendance number that have come out.
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Speaker 1: They look really good. This could be the first time
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Speaker 1: period since two thousand and five through two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 1: that we have attendance going up in three consecutive years, krats,
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Speaker 1: and the numbers might look even more favorable due to
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Speaker 1: the fact that obviously weather was not great as it
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Speaker 1: mostly isn't these days the first couple weeks of the
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Speaker 1: season in the Northeast and the Midwest. So numbers look
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Speaker 1: really stromp in attendance in Major League Baseball. And do
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Speaker 1: you know who has by far the biggest spike in baseball?
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Speaker 1: It is not even close by percentage.
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Speaker 3: In those three years, the Padres. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Right now this year, first month and change of the season,
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Speaker 1: the Mets correct, I should agree the numbers just as
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Speaker 1: they stood out that much so the Dodgers always leading
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Speaker 1: this category the biggest ballpark and fifty one thousand and
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Speaker 1: three sixty four Right now for home the Mets are
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Speaker 1: at thirty six thousand, one ninety eight per game. I
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Speaker 1: know that's a lot less than LA, but it's still
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Speaker 1: a very healthy number for baseball. They're up by more
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Speaker 1: than fifty six percent per game. What aj I think
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Speaker 1: Juan Soto sells tickets?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you think good players sell tickets. Good players sell tickets.
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Speaker 2: Weird how that works. The more good players you have,
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Speaker 2: the more excited to fan base kits, and the more
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Speaker 2: tickets they want to go buy, and the more people
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Speaker 2: they want to see and all that stuff. It's weird.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy that if you actually spend money on your
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Speaker 2: product you can get money back. I never would have
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Speaker 2: thought of that. Warren Buffett recently anounced he's retiring. I
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Speaker 2: wonder if he's thought of that.
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Speaker 3: No, there's no way.
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Speaker 4: There's no way if you put money into your team
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Speaker 4: that people will want to come see them, because if
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Speaker 4: you get free agents, then ticket prices might go up,
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Speaker 4: and that's when that's when fans don't come out.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 4: Oh wait, there's no correlation to that. It's a winning,
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Speaker 4: exciting team that they've built. They added to it with
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Speaker 4: the best player available in the free agent market, and
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Speaker 4: oh yeah, and they're winning at home.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, good formula, keep it up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, winning helps, for sure, always does. But when they
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Speaker 1: made that move in the offseason, I was told by
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Speaker 1: very good sources that phones were off the hook, and
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Speaker 1: clearly they are. If you can see what's going on
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Speaker 1: right now. All right, let's charge charging about the Texas
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Speaker 1: Rangers have some offensive issues. Aside from yesterdays game where
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Speaker 1: they scored eight, but they are worst in the American
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Speaker 1: League and runs scored second worst in all of baseball
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Speaker 1: to the Rockies and aj You weren't here Friday, but
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Speaker 1: we talked about Jake Berger getting optioned. Then Leodi Taveres
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Speaker 1: was just cut DFA. You can get claimed. He won't.
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Speaker 1: He'll probably be in Triple A with them. And then
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Speaker 1: Donnie Ecker, their offensive coordinator, including their OC during their
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three World Series winning season, has been let go.
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Speaker 1: Chris Young very vocal about how they are not scoring runs.
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Speaker 1: That's very What do you think do you think this
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Speaker 1: is going to make a difference.
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Speaker 2: Listen, they got rid of their hitting coaches offseason. Chris
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Speaker 2: Hires is in Atlanta. I believe so. He was their
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Speaker 2: hitting coach the last couple of years. They got rid
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Speaker 2: of him. Now they get rid of Donniecker. They're OC,
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Speaker 2: which I don't really know what he does. Maybe Krafts
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Speaker 2: can explain. I don't know if he calls a draw
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Speaker 2: on third and ten or if he calls a screenplay
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Speaker 2: when the rush is getting to the QB. I don't
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Speaker 2: really know what he does. But uh, it's the same players,
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Speaker 2: Like it sucks for Jake Berger getting sit down, but
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Speaker 2: it's the same players. You need seeger back, You need
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Speaker 2: to send me in to get going. You need Doli
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Speaker 2: Scarcia go back to where he was two years ago. Man,
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Speaker 2: I don't know will make a change. Will it help?
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Speaker 2: Probably because it's a new voice. But at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, man, I listen, I was on a
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Speaker 2: team where managers and coaches get fired. You look yourself
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Speaker 2: in the mirror as a player and say this is
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Speaker 2: this is my fault.
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Speaker 4: It sucks to it sucks to have any coach or
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Speaker 4: managers fired during the season because it's exactly what AJ said.
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Speaker 3: It sucks.
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Speaker 4: But to me, this is like a stark difference in
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Speaker 4: this offense. This is an underperforming offense. Touch on a
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Speaker 4: little bit how Baltimore's hitting. I thought this lineup would
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Speaker 4: be as good as Baltimore's and they're both brutal.
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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure.
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Speaker 4: Either I guess my evaluation suck or there's glaring issues
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Speaker 4: in just a overall game strategy standpoint. So maybe this
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Speaker 4: is the reason that the coach got fired. But it's
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Speaker 4: still the players. They have to hit a fastball and
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Speaker 4: they're not.
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Speaker 1: Does this send a message in your mind? Aj to
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Speaker 1: the current group? I mean they're not going to do
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Speaker 1: anything with some of the stars.
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Speaker 2: No, who would send a message to Seeger he's hurt.
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Speaker 2: Simeon he's not going anywhere, Josh Young, he's not going anywhere,
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Speaker 2: Jonah him Gashioka, Adolis Garcia. I mean, no, it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: It just says, hey, be careful, we're we need to
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Speaker 2: get better. But no, it doesn't. I don't know what
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Speaker 2: message it sends other than we need to be better
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Speaker 2: and listen. As a player, man, you hate when people
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Speaker 2: that you have known and gone to battle with and
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Speaker 2: have had your back lose their job because it means
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Speaker 2: you're not performing the way you think you're capable of.
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Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing. It sucks as a player when
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Speaker 2: guys get fired.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I don't unders stand what message it would
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Speaker 4: be sending, like, oh, you're firing coaches the goodness I'm
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Speaker 4: a player man, no accountability for me? Like oh you
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Speaker 4: said Like I actually kind of liked as much as
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Speaker 4: I don't like seeing guys get sent down. The Jake
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Speaker 4: Berger thing in the sense of there was a guy
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Speaker 4: in Tripaa that is an older player twenty seven, twenty
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Speaker 4: eight years old that was sitting there going, I'm hitting
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Speaker 4: and I got called up to the big leagues. Now
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Speaker 4: other guys in the bushes are like, okay, if I
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Speaker 4: perform the way that he was performing, I could also
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Speaker 4: get called up. I think that sends a little bit
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Speaker 4: more of a message to players. Jake Burger's gonna be
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Speaker 4: back in the big leagues. Jake Berger might actually end
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Speaker 4: up with more than twenty home runs this year too. Like,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that you get sent down you're a
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Speaker 4: bad player. It means that message that was sent maybe
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Speaker 4: kind of gets the gets the Triple A team going
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Speaker 4: a little bit in a sense of like, okay, we'll
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Speaker 4: be able to come and step in and help out.
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Speaker 4: And other guys can say, Marcus Simeon got dropped down
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Speaker 4: in the order. Those kind of moves send a message
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Speaker 4: firing or hitting coach and didn't send a message because
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Speaker 4: now you got a new dude that's coming in and hey,
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Speaker 4: he's gonna talk about this. Is this gonna connect when
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Speaker 4: the whole time it's just I gotta go out and
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Speaker 4: perform better.
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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, you just said that. It sends
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Speaker 2: a message to Triple A who cares. No, no pairs with
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Speaker 2: the message great, like they get a big if we
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Speaker 2: do good, we're gonna get called up.
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Speaker 4: Like no kidding sends messages to players. It sends messages
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Speaker 4: to players because you have to. You have to keep
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Speaker 4: player layers know them some way. The players know though.
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Speaker 4: The players know if you suck, something happens.
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Speaker 2: But they're not. They're not going to get rid of
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Speaker 2: certain guys, Simeon Seger. These guys that are locked in
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Speaker 2: the long term contracts, they're not sending them to Triple A.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's cool that, well, I don't even know
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Speaker 2: the guy's name. I got called up for Burger. That's
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Speaker 2: great for him, but doesn't do anything Triple A. Everybody
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Speaker 2: in Triple A wants a big league job. That shouldn't change.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be like, oh, they're really gonna do it, guys,
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Speaker 2: let's go wherever Round Rock or Frisco or whatever it is.
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Speaker 4: No, I mean, I mean more of Look, we're not
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Speaker 4: afraid of sending guys down. You're right, Simeon Seeger. Josh
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Speaker 4: Smith is killing it like other guys are not. Not
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Speaker 4: every clearly not everybody's hitting. So if you show that
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Speaker 4: you know what, We're willing to use other guys in
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Speaker 4: your spot if you don't perform to me, that sends
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Speaker 4: a message.
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Speaker 1: How about Bruce Bochie never doing this? I think this
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Speaker 1: is his call. How does this decision get and put together?
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Speaker 1: Now it's just from the front office. Well, this is
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Speaker 1: a twenty eight year managerial career, and I think this
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Speaker 1: is the first time he's ever done this with a
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Speaker 1: significant coaching staff change in the season.
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Speaker 2: This was a front office where you need to do
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Speaker 2: something different here Boach, and Boach is like, okay, what
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Speaker 2: can we do to try to change this? I know
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Speaker 2: he's frustrated. Everyone there is frustrated. It's not like you know,
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Speaker 2: Ecker the offensive coordinator isn't frustrated. The players are frustrated.
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Speaker 2: Everyone's frustrated. So I don't know. I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: never understood making changes in the middle of the season.
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Speaker 2: You hired that guy at the beginning of the season
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Speaker 2: to because you believed in him. You've had this guy
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Speaker 2: around for years because you believed in him. He didn't
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Speaker 2: change his stripes, he didn't do something different. Guys aren't
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Speaker 2: playing well.
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Speaker 3: What is it like?
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Speaker 4: A year and a half is the average lifespan of
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Speaker 4: a hitting coach in Major League Baseball, Like it's just
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Speaker 4: they're just the easy scapegoat, and it's it's to me,
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Speaker 4: it's a lazy it's a lazy thing, but it's something
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Speaker 4: that all teams do. Look, the Rockies don't even care
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Speaker 4: about winning and they fired Bam Bam mulens Hensley.
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Speaker 1: So the Rangers are seventeen and eighteen on the season,
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners, who just took them down in a
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Speaker 1: series this week and are twenty and thirteen. Got the
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Speaker 1: A's playing pretty good ball. I know it is the
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Speaker 1: Marlins this weekend, but the A's are playing pretty good
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Speaker 1: ball right now at nineteen sixteen on the year. Astros
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Speaker 1: are probably always going to hang around, right seventeen and sixteen.
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Speaker 1: And then there's Texas at seventeen and eighteen in fourth place.
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Speaker 1: The Angels are a mess right now. We talked plenty
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Speaker 1: about them last week. Is there a high level of
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Speaker 1: concern for a sexy World Series pick and a team
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Speaker 1: that many thought would do some damage in the Al West?
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Speaker 1: Or too early? Dot Com aj.
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Speaker 2: Tall you get your team back until you get secret back.
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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't just say like it's too early,
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Speaker 2: but their pitching has been really good. Thing is the
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Speaker 2: need to score runs. But until they get Seeger back
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Speaker 2: and plug him in the middle of the order, Langford's
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Speaker 2: been good for him, you know, Smith has been good
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Speaker 2: for him. They got to get their full lineup back,
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Speaker 2: but they need them back sooner rather than later. Because
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Speaker 2: the division is not getting any easier, especially the way
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Speaker 2: Seattle's playing and the way Seattle's swinging the bat.
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Speaker 4: I would say, I would say it's not gonna get
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Speaker 4: easier either, because every team you're playing, besides the Angels
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Speaker 4: right now, are gonna give you a battle. So you're
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Speaker 4: not if you get four games back, five games back.
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Speaker 4: Before you could you could run into the A's, you
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Speaker 4: could run into the Angels and they were they were
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Speaker 4: playing brutal and you could get five of six. Now
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Speaker 4: teams you got a battle to be able to get
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Speaker 4: four of six, even to win two series in a row.
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Speaker 3: And you can't get too far behind.
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Speaker 4: Not a super level concern yet, but because they're covering
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Speaker 4: at five hundred. But this division right now, the way
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Speaker 4: it seems everyone's kind of playing, and everyone's kind of
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Speaker 4: playing and gonna be able to beat up on each other.
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Speaker 4: So you just can't. You can't let it get too
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Speaker 4: too big of a lead.
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Speaker 1: Man. I know he's streaky as hell always. They gotta
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Speaker 1: get Drack Peterson going. They gotta get him on a
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Speaker 1: heater again.
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Speaker 2: That happened. What happened to Dole's Garcia? What happened to
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Speaker 2: him two years ago? He was hitting homers on everything?
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Speaker 3: Now, what happened?
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Speaker 2: Where'd it go?
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 2: That's a question. Josh Young can't stay healthy. They you know,
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Speaker 2: maybe they should have kept Nathaniel Low. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: There's These are all questions you could ask, but until
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Speaker 2: they figured out, we can keep asking him.
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Speaker 1: And it's too early to make trades. For the most part,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to make any significant trades yet. We're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about trades later. Go ahead, Craft's last word,
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna to get it to the other big
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Speaker 1: story of the weekend. Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: No, just that, like you, you have, you have to
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Speaker 4: be able to know your personnel, and this early in
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Speaker 4: the season to make changes. They brought in Peterson and
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Speaker 4: Jake Berger to hit heaters, even Higashioka, who plays on
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Speaker 4: kind of a you know, a backup role, guys that
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Speaker 4: could hit heaters and yet they haven't, So where is
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Speaker 4: that adjustment that needs to be made?
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Speaker 3: And I also think Marcus Simeon needs to step up too.
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Speaker 4: He's you can't just wait on Seger to come back
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Speaker 4: all the time. I think he's a guy that needs
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Speaker 4: to be a huge piece of this lineup.
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Speaker 1: From what I recall, he wasn't great last year either.
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Speaker 1: How old is Marcus? You got to start playing that game?
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Speaker 3: Thirty four to thirty thirty four? Just turned thirty four.
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Speaker 4: Yeah he'll be thirty five. No, sorry, he'll be thirty
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Speaker 4: five sooner, sooner than later.
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Speaker 1: Just saying father time starts to slow you down. It does.
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Speaker 1: It's real, it happens to them all.
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Speaker 2: How many how many more years does he have on
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Speaker 2: that contract?
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Speaker 3: Till twenty eight? So he's got four including this season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some time. Yes, I was just counting
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Speaker 1: four years left including this season. But in superstar levels,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Also super durbly, I mean, played almost
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Speaker 1: every game for the majority of his career. That doesn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily mean that he's going to age well, like, it's
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Speaker 1: just how the game is played. You know, guys get
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Speaker 1: to their mid thirties and sometimes you know, it falls
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Speaker 1: off a cliff. I mean, Jack Peterson might be going
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Speaker 1: through that right now because he can't catch up to
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Speaker 1: a heater. Here comes Chris Catillomasslab dot com Red Sox
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Speaker 1: Beat reporter, joining us right now. Chris, good to see you.
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Speaker 1: Although tough news for the Red Sox as far as
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Speaker 1: their lineup and their depth, what did you think of
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Speaker 1: the Tristan Cosas injury and the aftermath here on how
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Speaker 1: they're going to replace him? Let's just get right to Bizma.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's a you know, horrible, horrible, horrible
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Speaker 5: thing for him. This is a guy that I think
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Speaker 5: a lot of people identified as a guy going into
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Speaker 5: him not necessarily a make or break season, but definitely
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Speaker 5: a big one. Right This guy has all the talent
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Speaker 5: in the world. The Red Sox view him as a
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Speaker 5: guy who can give him thirty forty homers in the
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Speaker 5: middle of their lineup, and he had a really freak
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Speaker 5: weird injury last year that cost him a lot of
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Speaker 5: the season, and now this is going to cost him
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Speaker 5: five months of it. So I think it starts there.
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Speaker 5: We'll obviously get into the replacement options and all the
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Speaker 5: craziness and the potentials with Devers and the top prospects
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Speaker 5: and maybe Anthony Rizzo and all that stuff, But really
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Speaker 5: I think just this is a guy who could not
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Speaker 5: afford to have this happen. It's you know, people always
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Speaker 5: wonder like, oh is it the torn acl or what
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Speaker 5: is it? Like this injury might be worse. It's a rough,
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Speaker 5: hard pteller tendon, very very serious. He had surgery yesterday
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Speaker 5: and it's a long recovery. It's going to be a
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Speaker 5: brutal one for him at twenty five. Obviously, you know,
16:48
Speaker 5: there's a lot of his story yet to be told.
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Speaker 5: But I think just on a human basis, and especially
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Speaker 5: you know, for a guy who is so talented, just
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Speaker 5: a brutal one for the red side him for everybody.
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Speaker 4: Is there any before we get onto other guys playing
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Speaker 4: other positions, is there is there any other players recently
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Speaker 4: that have had a ruptured protell attendant. It feels like
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Speaker 4: that's more of a football type of injury from what
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Speaker 4: I was looking at, So like recovery wise, do we
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Speaker 4: have any even timeline or like prognosis of how much
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Speaker 4: this will linger for him?
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I looked it up. He did the quick Google search,
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Speaker 5: and I think Edwin Diaz, I think when he got
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Speaker 5: hurt in the WBC, I think that's what it was.
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Speaker 5: Not one hundred percent sure it's mister Catillo, not doctor so,
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Speaker 5: but I just think it's It's one of those things
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Speaker 5: that you do see with you know, offensive linemen. You
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Speaker 5: see that with like a lot of offensive linemen. Have
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Speaker 5: it happened. Patriots had a guy called Strange who had
17:50
Speaker 5: it happened too, because you know it's the planting and
17:53
Speaker 5: obviously those big bodies, but this is not something you
17:56
Speaker 5: see from a guy running down the first base line.
17:59
Speaker 5: You know, like he he did it before he hit
18:01
Speaker 5: the base, He was trying to avoid ty Frantz running
18:03
Speaker 5: down the line on a dribbler and just like took
18:06
Speaker 5: an awkward step running at full speed trying to beat
18:08
Speaker 5: it out, and you know, the tendon completely you know,
18:13
Speaker 5: ruptured snauts, whatever you want to call it. It's a
18:16
Speaker 5: gruesome one. I think. You know, when a guy stretchered
18:18
Speaker 5: off and there's that amount of concern right then as
18:22
Speaker 5: there was, it looked bad and it turned out being
18:25
Speaker 5: that way. So nothing minor at all.
18:28
Speaker 4: Are you surprised at how much Alice Korra was just
18:32
Speaker 4: staunching his approach that Devers Raphael Devers is not going
18:37
Speaker 4: to be playing first base. Like even before the injury,
18:41
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure his quote was he will not play
18:44
Speaker 4: in the field this year, and then after the injury
18:47
Speaker 4: he doubled and tripled down on Are you surprised at
18:50
Speaker 4: that in the sense of how he approached it and
18:52
Speaker 4: not like, hey, we're open, we'll see yeah.
18:56
Speaker 5: I mean the Red Sox. I think as a lot
18:58
Speaker 5: of these teams do now like they take that we're
18:59
Speaker 5: open anything, we're open minded approach all the time. We
19:03
Speaker 5: talked to Breslo like five minutes before we talked to
19:06
Speaker 5: Kora the other day and he was asked that question
19:08
Speaker 5: and he said, you know, we haven't ruled anything out.
19:11
Speaker 5: We would not rule Devers out. It's not like you said, oh,
19:13
Speaker 5: we're going to try that. And five minutes later we
19:15
Speaker 5: go up to do the Cora pregame presser and he said,
19:18
Speaker 5: from my end, no, we're not going to do this.
19:20
Speaker 5: We asked him to be the DHS. He didn't like it,
19:23
Speaker 5: but he came around. He's hitting, well, now he's hitting
19:25
Speaker 5: rockets all over the field, like, let's just keep him
19:29
Speaker 5: where he is, And I think that's kind of the
19:31
Speaker 5: organization'll take that they're having some self awareness that you know,
19:34
Speaker 5: we just in their mind they just got through basically
19:37
Speaker 5: kind of a big storm with DEVS.
19:39
Speaker 3: You know.
19:39
Speaker 5: I think people thought it was a media creation and stuff.
19:42
Speaker 5: I think people thought it was just controversy for controversy's sake,
19:45
Speaker 5: But he was really upset with how it went down
19:47
Speaker 5: when they moved him off third base to dh I
19:49
Speaker 5: don't think they handled it behind the scenes, being upfront
19:52
Speaker 5: with him about the Bregman pursuit, about the Aeronauda pursuit
19:55
Speaker 5: and what it would mean. You know, Cora even said
19:58
Speaker 5: publicly Bregman could be a Gold Globe second baseman. That
20:01
Speaker 5: was kind of a smoke screen, and then you know,
20:03
Speaker 5: when it did happen in spring training, he was not
20:05
Speaker 5: very happy about it, as everybody knows. He came around,
20:08
Speaker 5: tensions cooled, and he's been, you know, pretty good. I
20:11
Speaker 5: think that, you know, you just the way he's hitting
20:13
Speaker 5: the ball hard, the way he's taking walks. He's really
20:15
Speaker 5: coming into that DH roll after a very bizarre start
20:19
Speaker 5: where his timing was off for those first few days.
20:21
Speaker 5: So I think that they're sticking with that just because
20:24
Speaker 5: they kind of have the awareness that, like, hey, we
20:27
Speaker 5: just this was a big ask. This was an earth
20:30
Speaker 5: shaking move in Deavor's career. He came around, We're in
20:33
Speaker 5: a good spot with him. Let's not you know, upset
20:35
Speaker 5: the apple cart, whatever the phrase is. Again, I think
20:37
Speaker 5: the wild card in this is if Devers walks into
20:41
Speaker 5: Cora's office and says, hey, I like playing the field
20:43
Speaker 5: and I think I could do this. Let's start working
20:45
Speaker 5: me out at first base. If he does that, if
20:47
Speaker 5: he initiates it, I think all bets are off. But
20:51
Speaker 5: at this point, you know, they're sticking with at least
20:54
Speaker 5: yesterday and Saturday and probably for you know tomorrow rain
20:57
Speaker 5: pending against Texas Romigan Zalez and Abraham Toro, and they're
21:01
Speaker 5: assessing from there.
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Speaker 2: Why would Devers do that? Though they've been so adamant
22:07
Speaker 2: about him, I wouldn't do that. If I was Raffie Devers,
22:09
Speaker 2: I'd be like, you need me to play first, you
22:11
Speaker 2: come to me. I mean, Alex Score has been adamant adamant, adamant. Oh,
22:15
Speaker 2: he's never gonna play the field. Basically like, if I'm
22:18
Speaker 2: Raffi Devers, I'm like, I'm just getting comfortable. No, I'm
22:20
Speaker 2: not doing it. Why would I. You guys treated me this,
22:22
Speaker 2: There's no reason for him to do That'd be like
22:24
Speaker 2: I'm at dah. You guys figure out the rest.
22:27
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think to completely agree that it's his right
22:30
Speaker 5: to if he wants to have that stance. That is
22:32
Speaker 5: totally within bounds. And I agree probably the way that
22:35
Speaker 5: I would personally approach it if I had any athletic
22:37
Speaker 5: talents whatsoever. With him, Like, there is a chance though
22:41
Speaker 5: that he has this ship on his shoulder thing where
22:44
Speaker 5: he wants to prove that he can play the field
22:46
Speaker 5: because he liked it so much at third and was
22:48
Speaker 5: so you know, worked really hard at it and I know
22:50
Speaker 5: the results with the errors and stuff didn't always bear out,
22:53
Speaker 5: but he, you know, was a guy that worked tirelessly
22:55
Speaker 5: with the infield staff all that type of stuff. It
22:57
Speaker 5: was a big piece of his routine his day to day. Obviously,
23:01
Speaker 5: I think there's a world in which he says like, hey,
23:04
Speaker 5: like I want to do this. Maybe not. We've tried
23:08
Speaker 5: to ask him a couple times the last couple of days.
23:09
Speaker 5: He's decided that he doesn't want to take the questions
23:12
Speaker 5: right now. Again, within his rights and, as I tweeted yesterday,
23:15
Speaker 5: not a big deal. So I don't know where he
23:17
Speaker 5: stands on this, and I don't know where Breslo stands
23:21
Speaker 5: on it, but we do know Korra doesn't want to
23:22
Speaker 5: do it, and I think that was pretty interesting.
23:24
Speaker 1: What's the real plan then, I mean, are they going
23:27
Speaker 1: with Rome Gonzalez and Abraham Toro for the rest of
23:31
Speaker 1: the season or at least until the trade deadline. I mean,
23:35
Speaker 1: we're going to host a Baseball America Hot Sheet show
23:37
Speaker 1: later on and talk about this. So I'd like to
23:39
Speaker 1: ask you as well. Roman Anthony is pretty damn good.
23:42
Speaker 1: It looks like he could hit in the big leagues
23:45
Speaker 1: right now. It's a very competitive division and you want
23:48
Speaker 1: to make sure if you're the Red Sox you get
23:50
Speaker 1: back in the playoffs. It has not been good times
23:52
Speaker 1: the last few years. He is capable of playing first base.
23:55
Speaker 1: It sounds like they already shot that down as well.
23:58
Speaker 5: Why yeah, I just think with Roman Anthony and Marcelo Meyer,
24:01
Speaker 5: these guys are so young and they want them developed
24:04
Speaker 5: at their positions. You know, on the defensive side, Marcelo's
24:06
Speaker 5: pretty good and Anthony has made strides in the outfield.
24:09
Speaker 5: They moved him to all three spots. I think that,
24:11
Speaker 5: you know, with guys that are that good, even when
24:14
Speaker 5: the hit tool is probably big league ready, Like, they
24:16
Speaker 5: don't want to add another wrinkle to the development right
24:19
Speaker 5: now and have them play a position that neither of
24:21
Speaker 5: them have, you know, really at any level. Maybe in
24:24
Speaker 5: the future, maybe they have this conversation down the line.
24:26
Speaker 5: I think you know where those guys fit in. I
24:28
Speaker 5: think there's zero percent chance either of them play first
24:31
Speaker 5: base for the Red Sox this year. I do think
24:33
Speaker 5: there are ways where the Red Sox could, you know,
24:35
Speaker 5: figure something out. It's a little hard when you look
24:38
Speaker 5: at who they have in the outfield, but you know,
24:40
Speaker 5: is there a world in which Christian Campbell gets to
24:43
Speaker 5: first kind of the same thing we're just talking about right,
24:45
Speaker 5: Like he's a top prospect even though he's been in
24:47
Speaker 5: the big leagues for a month. Do they want to
24:48
Speaker 5: add another position to him? Maybe not, But maybe Marcelo
24:52
Speaker 5: Meyer comes up and plays short and Trevor Story goes
24:55
Speaker 5: to first. Like I wouldn't rule that fully out right
24:58
Speaker 5: now it's Rome and Toro, and I think they're looking
25:00
Speaker 5: at that opt out market. You know, last year, costas
25:03
Speaker 5: went down and they got Garrett Cooper and Tom Smith
25:05
Speaker 5: to platoon. I don't think that options like that are
25:09
Speaker 5: really premier options for them, just because they know now
25:13
Speaker 5: unlike they did last year, that Cosas will be out
25:15
Speaker 5: the rest of the year. They didn't know and he
25:17
Speaker 5: was going to come back. And also, this team has
25:19
Speaker 5: designs on, you know, really contending and hopefully for them
25:22
Speaker 5: being among the best teams in the AL and so
25:25
Speaker 5: the ceiling is higher. So therefore the ceiling should be
25:27
Speaker 5: higher on who they replace Cossas with, higher than Tom
25:30
Speaker 5: Smith and Garrett Cooper and Tom Smith was okay. I
25:33
Speaker 5: think the wild card here, and you know, you guys
25:36
Speaker 5: might know the situation better than I do, is Anthony Rizzo.
25:40
Speaker 5: I don't know if he has interest in playing at
25:41
Speaker 5: this point. I don't know if the Red Sox of
25:43
Speaker 5: interest in bringing him in. If he's going to demand
25:45
Speaker 5: a major league deal with a four or five million
25:47
Speaker 5: dollars salary, I could doubt that they would do it.
25:50
Speaker 5: But if he is going to take a minor league deal,
25:52
Speaker 5: something he said earlier that he didn't want to do,
25:54
Speaker 5: maybe they bring him in see it what he has
25:55
Speaker 5: left in the tank for his original organization he was
25:58
Speaker 5: drafted by Maybe that's your break to the trade deadline.
26:01
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean I think that everything is
26:03
Speaker 5: on the table, but I do you know, as you said,
26:05
Speaker 5: find it hard to believe that Gonzales and Toro are
26:07
Speaker 5: the options for the next you know, five months. I
26:09
Speaker 5: just don't see that being the case right now. I
26:11
Speaker 5: think they need a solution to get them to the
26:13
Speaker 5: trade deadline at minimum and then address it from there,
26:16
Speaker 5: or you know, that kind of drastic Devers thing, or
26:20
Speaker 5: you know, maybe Rizzo comes in is good. Who knows.
26:23
Speaker 5: But it's a position where they definitely didn't have that
26:26
Speaker 5: much depth, you know, like they Roami was playing when
26:30
Speaker 5: Costas wasn't starting against lefties at Triple A. They've worked
26:33
Speaker 5: von Grissom out there. He's only played four or five games,
26:36
Speaker 5: just in an effort to get some more depth. So,
26:38
Speaker 5: you know, the injury is obviously brutal for Casas chiefly
26:41
Speaker 5: and for the Red Sox lineup, but it's also at
26:44
Speaker 5: a position where they just don't have bodies.
26:47
Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned bodies, Go ahead, Crutch. Sorry, I was
26:51
Speaker 4: just going to say getting offense at first base. I
26:54
Speaker 4: feel like there's offense to be had this team's defense
26:57
Speaker 4: is not very good and first base is a cornerstone,
27:02
Speaker 4: would it be easier for them to find defense, not
27:05
Speaker 4: for go offense. But ultimately, if your first basement isn't good,
27:09
Speaker 4: your infielders stink too, because normally you have a really
27:12
Speaker 4: good first baseman when your infielders win gold gloves because
27:16
Speaker 4: they're picking stuff. Is that a route that they're willing
27:19
Speaker 4: to go to, or are they just thinking, you know what,
27:22
Speaker 4: if we can find any kind of offense or just
27:25
Speaker 4: a warm body over there.
27:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the defense part of it
27:28
Speaker 5: is very very important. That's the reason one of many,
27:31
Speaker 5: but one of the big ones that they went out
27:33
Speaker 5: and got Bregman and moved Evers because their infield defense
27:37
Speaker 5: has not been very good for a long time. You know,
27:39
Speaker 5: second base has been a revolving door. Story has been hurt,
27:42
Speaker 5: so that's they've had to have these constant you know,
27:45
Speaker 5: fill ins short too. But Endeavor is always you know,
27:48
Speaker 5: near the league lead and errors as hard as he
27:50
Speaker 5: does work at it. So I think, you know, installing
27:52
Speaker 5: Bregman in story a very professional, at times elite left
27:57
Speaker 5: side there, I think was important to them because they
27:59
Speaker 5: knew that Campbell, there might be a learning curve at
28:01
Speaker 5: second he settled in and been okay and cosas you know,
28:05
Speaker 5: the big body and you know, okay, am out of
28:07
Speaker 5: major league experience. Now I think they were okay with
28:10
Speaker 5: but you know, we're always looking for ways to improve.
28:13
Speaker 5: So I think it's a it's an important piece of it.
28:16
Speaker 5: You know, they weren't getting a ton from costUS offensively already.
28:18
Speaker 5: I think that they thought he was gonna go on
28:20
Speaker 5: a big heater and be you know, really good, you know,
28:23
Speaker 5: as things heated up here. But at this point it's
28:26
Speaker 5: almost a bigger scamp be choosers thing, right, Like it's
28:28
Speaker 5: May fifth. This is not a time where you can
28:30
Speaker 5: go out and get a lot in the way of
28:33
Speaker 5: options that are out there. Big trades usually aren't made.
28:35
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, they're gonna have to you know,
28:38
Speaker 5: it's not gonna be a perfect solution whatever it is, right,
28:40
Speaker 5: and guys are gonna have to move around. If one
28:42
Speaker 5: of these top prospects was the first basement, it would
28:44
Speaker 5: be perfect. Other than that, you know, there's just not one.
28:53
Speaker 1: Ay j you get you're.
28:54
Speaker 2: Back, yeah it was never gone.
28:57
Speaker 1: Oh okay, just making sure all right, what about Do
29:02
Speaker 1: you think there's there's external options that could be in
29:05
Speaker 1: play here as well, Chris.
29:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, Rizzo's the one that sticks
29:10
Speaker 5: out just because he is available. And again, I don't
29:13
Speaker 5: know about a situation. So but a guy who's obviously
29:17
Speaker 5: a pro, a guy who's a lot of big market experience,
29:20
Speaker 5: championship pedigree, like I said, a guy who the Red
29:23
Speaker 5: Sox originally drafted. They traded in the Adrian Gazalez trade
29:26
Speaker 5: years ago, so maybe that. You know, again, it's just
29:31
Speaker 5: it's tough to make a trade on May fifth. You know,
29:33
Speaker 5: the Padres did it with Arise last year. Other than that,
29:36
Speaker 5: you don't really see those blockbusters go down now, So
29:40
Speaker 5: I'm sure they're they're calling teams and seeing who's out there,
29:42
Speaker 5: but you're gonna have to pay a premium, so you know,
29:45
Speaker 5: Like like I said, a bridge that gets them to
29:47
Speaker 5: the trade deadline to where they can really address it
29:49
Speaker 5: might make the most sense. But I think they're open
29:51
Speaker 5: to really anything other than Anthony or Meyer moving to
29:54
Speaker 5: first on a whim.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to Walker Bueller. We haven't really
30:31
Speaker 1: covered that one yet either. So what do you know
30:33
Speaker 1: about his injury?
30:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, he talked yesterday for the first time since going down,
30:38
Speaker 5: and he was really upbeat and really pretty sure that
30:42
Speaker 5: it's nothing major at all. He said he learned from
30:47
Speaker 5: Max shus Or when they were teammates in LA that
30:49
Speaker 5: if you can't throw through the ball, then it's not
30:51
Speaker 5: something you can pitch through. And his last three starts,
30:54
Speaker 5: even though he's been pretty good, he's had a really
30:56
Speaker 5: good four start stretch, he just didn't feel like he was,
31:00
Speaker 5: you know, delivering at the level where he was comfortable.
31:03
Speaker 5: And he said he had a shoulder thing that no
31:05
Speaker 5: one ever talked about was never public before. That was
31:08
Speaker 5: a Grade three tear and his shoulder years ago, and
31:11
Speaker 5: this felt similar. So he was really terrified and worried
31:13
Speaker 5: it was something serious. But the MRI showed Versidas he
31:18
Speaker 5: is going to be back throwing today. He hopes to
31:21
Speaker 5: miss just two or three starts. And this is a
31:23
Speaker 5: guy who, you know, talk about an X factor for
31:25
Speaker 5: the Red Sox if you can pencil and Crochet being
31:27
Speaker 5: really really good every five days. They needed number two
31:30
Speaker 5: to step up, you know, Bueller, Bo and howck all
31:32
Speaker 5: in that mix. Howk has not been great to start
31:34
Speaker 5: the year. Bueller's been up and down, BeO, you know,
31:36
Speaker 5: was hurt, so they need somebody to be that number two.
31:39
Speaker 5: Bueller's obviously the guy with the most experienced of that group,
31:41
Speaker 5: and I think a guy who has plenty to prove
31:43
Speaker 5: this year on a one year deal, so he wants
31:45
Speaker 5: to be back sooner rather than later. And I would guess,
31:47
Speaker 5: you know, somewhere around May fifteenth, May twenty if he
31:50
Speaker 5: will be.
31:51
Speaker 4: Chris, We're going to get to something a little bit
31:53
Speaker 4: more positive, actually a lot positive. Huge signing an off
31:56
Speaker 4: season with Alex pregnant, has he like, could he have
32:00
Speaker 4: done anything more coming in on the contract that he
32:03
Speaker 4: came in on.
32:04
Speaker 3: Then he's done so far.
32:06
Speaker 5: No, it's been unbelievable. I mean home road, he had
32:10
Speaker 5: a couple of errors the first couple of weeks that
32:12
Speaker 5: put him in a bad spot. Maybe that'll be the
32:15
Speaker 5: negative option there, but other I mean, offensively, this is
32:17
Speaker 5: a guy who's always started slow. You know, his OPS
32:20
Speaker 5: is way lower in March slash April than it is
32:23
Speaker 5: and all the other months of his career historically. You know,
32:26
Speaker 5: it's been a thing in Houston. It's something Scott Morris
32:29
Speaker 5: even brought up in the introductory pressor in Fort Myers.
32:31
Speaker 5: But he has been incredible, you know, big hits, run producer, homers,
32:36
Speaker 5: wearing out the Monster, a stabilizing force at Third clubhouse, leader,
32:40
Speaker 5: all that stuff. I mean, it's going to be, you know,
32:44
Speaker 5: fascinating with the opt out decision at the end of
32:46
Speaker 5: the year. But he has if he you know, plays
32:50
Speaker 5: well enough where he does opt out, the Red Sox
32:52
Speaker 5: will be in a good spot because that'll mean that
32:55
Speaker 5: he produced all year. He's you know, showed no signs
32:58
Speaker 5: of slowing down. And like he's a guy that's just
33:01
Speaker 5: been excellent, especially offensively, I think some of the cold
33:04
Speaker 5: weather games he didn't love on the defensive side of things.
33:07
Speaker 5: It was thirty five degrees the first pitch one night.
33:09
Speaker 5: But he's been, you know, a lot better the last
33:11
Speaker 5: few weeks. And he's been the forty million a year.
33:14
Speaker 5: I know it's deferred, but that looks like an underpay.
33:18
Speaker 4: What is the history with the Red Sox not letting
33:22
Speaker 4: him get the free agency finished the job that they
33:26
Speaker 4: did when they went out and got him and they
33:27
Speaker 4: went forty a year. Yes, deferred, but forty a year. Hey,
33:32
Speaker 4: you're making a big commitment. It seemed like the Red
33:34
Speaker 4: Sox were all in. You went and got Crochet, you
33:36
Speaker 4: got gave up a few, you know, some of your prospects.
33:39
Speaker 4: Why would they pull back if he's done what he's done.
33:43
Speaker 4: I know he's a Boris client. Boris' clients don't extend
33:45
Speaker 4: very often, except Boris clients that go to free agency
33:49
Speaker 4: and don't quite get what they want. Are the Red
33:52
Speaker 4: Sox inclined or ever in a position.
33:55
Speaker 3: To do that?
33:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think like they have kind of
33:59
Speaker 5: a crowded infield mix already, So I think it depends on,
34:03
Speaker 5: you know, the long term future of where they see
34:05
Speaker 5: Marcela Meyer playing. You know, they are going to have
34:07
Speaker 5: Trevor Story under contract. He hasn't opt out, but that's
34:10
Speaker 5: going to be tough to see him exercising that. He
34:12
Speaker 5: had a great couple of weeks. He's been very slow
34:13
Speaker 5: the last couple so they do have a lot of
34:16
Speaker 5: infield options. You know, if if Story is still there,
34:19
Speaker 5: uh and they can't trade him and they want to
34:22
Speaker 5: keep him around, then that you know, clogs up one
34:24
Speaker 5: spot for a couple of years. You have Campbell probably
34:26
Speaker 5: is the long term first baseman obviously, you know, I
34:28
Speaker 5: would have said Costas is your long term first basement
34:31
Speaker 5: five days ago. Now it's you know, going to be
34:33
Speaker 5: a long recovery. So who knows at the end of that.
34:35
Speaker 5: You know, just because they move Devers to DH for
34:37
Speaker 5: this year, he's still going to be, you know, a
34:40
Speaker 5: pretty young player as of next year and he could
34:43
Speaker 5: move back there. So there's just a lot up in
34:44
Speaker 5: the air. I think when it comes to the infield,
34:47
Speaker 5: you know, and they have you know, Meyer, I think
34:49
Speaker 5: is the key to all of it when he does
34:50
Speaker 5: come up. So at the end of the year, I'm
34:53
Speaker 5: not saying there's not going to be a need for
34:54
Speaker 5: a guy like Alex Bragman if he's producing like this,
34:56
Speaker 5: of course there is, and of course leadership wise, the
34:59
Speaker 5: swing f fanway, it's a perfect fit in a lot
35:01
Speaker 5: of ways. But it's a crowded mix. There's going to
35:03
Speaker 5: be tough decisions that are going to be made their
35:05
Speaker 5: position player wise. Obviously they have too many outfielders too,
35:08
Speaker 5: so we'll see where it goes. They have a lot
35:11
Speaker 5: of talented players. It's just about making the the pieces
35:15
Speaker 5: work together, which is something they have not done for
35:18
Speaker 5: a long time, and I think that that's going to
35:20
Speaker 5: be a focus moving forward.
35:22
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35:33
Speaker 5: Thanks Chris, Thanks guys to you.
35:36
Speaker 1: I will say this, I mean, it's easy to look back,
35:39
Speaker 1: but if the Red Sox had an opportunity to say,
35:42
Speaker 1: trade for a Mariners pitcher and give away a Tristan Cassus,
35:46
Speaker 1: I mean they should have done it. We don't know
35:48
Speaker 1: the injury history, but I'm even pointing to the fact
35:50
Speaker 1: that in the first month of the season age. I
35:52
Speaker 1: mean he was really struggling at the plate.
35:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, And he struggled last year too. One
36:00
Speaker 2: of the question marks and what would he do? Would
36:03
Speaker 2: he be able to bounce back? And he didn't show
36:05
Speaker 2: it this year. And then you never want to see
36:07
Speaker 2: anybody get injured. Just injuries are the worst thing that
36:09
Speaker 2: can happen to anybody, Just a terrible, terrible injury. But
36:13
Speaker 2: is this the end for Christian Costs in Boston? That's
36:15
Speaker 2: the question. I mean, he's getting into RB eligible now
36:19
Speaker 2: and after two years basically not being able to play,
36:21
Speaker 2: you have to start asking the question, is this it
36:22
Speaker 2: for him in Boston? And we don't know, but they
36:25
Speaker 2: got to find a solution at first base. I don't
36:27
Speaker 2: think Anthony Rizzo's the answer. He hasn't played. He's probably
36:30
Speaker 2: not even ready to go. He won't take a minor
36:33
Speaker 2: league deal, so that's not an option. Let's stop with that. Chris,
36:35
Speaker 2: we love you, but that's not an option. And then
36:37
Speaker 2: they got to figure it out. I don't know who
36:39
Speaker 2: the answer is. Do they go get a Andrew Vaughan
36:41
Speaker 2: from the White Sox or someone like that. Bobby Dahlbeck
36:45
Speaker 2: was just Dfasia in the White Sox. I don't know.
36:47
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of names that you could try there
36:49
Speaker 2: because they need somebody. Rome Gonzalez and you know, Toro,
36:52
Speaker 2: I don't think are the answer either. So what are
36:54
Speaker 2: the Red Sox going to do? Because they've made this
36:56
Speaker 2: push to be a team that can compete, but you
36:58
Speaker 2: need a first baseman.
37:01
Speaker 1: All right, let's get right to the tweet here. We
37:03
Speaker 1: have two minutes, and it's kind of a long quote
37:05
Speaker 1: from Ron Washington, But aj, this team has been a mess.
37:09
Speaker 1: They've lost fifteen of nineteen games. Have they won since
37:15
Speaker 1: the travel day fiasco? Anyway? They were asking. He said,
37:18
Speaker 1: I've had many conversations with the team. I'm tired of
37:20
Speaker 1: having meetings. I've had a lot of meetings, and sometimes
37:22
Speaker 1: when you have too many meetings, it falls on deaf ears.
37:24
Speaker 1: I call a meeting when I think it's important. Right now,
37:26
Speaker 1: it's not like we're playing terrible baseball. The score might
37:28
Speaker 1: look like it. We've just got to start getting some
37:29
Speaker 1: outs late in the game. And if we start getting
37:31
Speaker 1: outslate in the game, that'll turn it around. The attitude
37:33
Speaker 1: is good, the atmosphere in the clubhouse is good. We've
37:35
Speaker 1: just got to figure out a way to win some
37:36
Speaker 1: ball games.
37:38
Speaker 2: Listen, I go back to what Ozzy Gehan used to
37:40
Speaker 2: say all the time when people would ask about team meetings.
37:44
Speaker 2: Bad teams have meetings, good teams win. There's only so
37:47
Speaker 2: many meetings you can have. At the end of the day,
37:48
Speaker 2: you got what you got, and you just go out
37:50
Speaker 2: and play. And I listen, the score is the ultimate
37:52
Speaker 2: indicator where you're at. Yes, have they won since that?
37:55
Speaker 2: They did beat the Tigers on Saturday, I believe Scott,
37:57
Speaker 2: so they have won a game since then? Yeah, I
38:00
Speaker 2: agree with Washing this like, how many meetings can you have?
38:02
Speaker 5: It?
38:02
Speaker 2: It ain't a meeting. This isn't football, where you can
38:05
Speaker 2: like run harder and tackle stronger and make a better block.
38:09
Speaker 2: This is baseball where you have to kind of be
38:10
Speaker 2: like this. So unless you see something blatantly wrong, meaning
38:15
Speaker 2: with effort, which Wash doesn't see, or with preparation, which
38:18
Speaker 2: he says he doesn't see, a team meeting doesn't really
38:20
Speaker 2: do you any good other than I don't know, let's
38:22
Speaker 2: have a meeting to have a meeting. I don't get it.
38:26
Speaker 1: Hot corner, let's sizzle. The Blue Jays are trying to
38:28
Speaker 1: pick up some reinforcements for their starting rotation. Of course,
38:32
Speaker 1: Minoa is still missing for a bit and Max Scherzer
38:36
Speaker 1: is on the sixty day IL. Now they pick up
38:39
Speaker 1: Jose Arena that's on a minor league deal. It'd made
38:41
Speaker 1: one appearance for the Mets. Actually put up ok numbers
38:44
Speaker 1: last year. A bunch of starts thirty something starts last
38:47
Speaker 1: year with Texas and then I don't remember which one
38:49
Speaker 1: of you it was, but Spencer Turnbull is signing with
38:52
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays. He's going to go to a complex league,
38:56
Speaker 1: get himself ramped back up kind of situation. He had
38:59
Speaker 1: a two and a half ish era last year. He
39:01
Speaker 1: was really damn good. When he added a sweeper, it
39:04
Speaker 1: was a money pitch for him. It really made a
39:06
Speaker 1: difference for him. He looked really good. I mean small
39:08
Speaker 1: sample size. He got hurt for the second half of
39:10
Speaker 1: the year. But was it aj? Was it? I mean
39:13
Speaker 1: usually I had default to you. Were you making fun
39:14
Speaker 1: of me when you said I mentioned him too much
39:16
Speaker 1: and why he should sign on with a team.
39:20
Speaker 3: Oh?
39:20
Speaker 2: Yes, I was making fun of you because you talked
39:22
Speaker 2: about him every day like he was a difference maker,
39:24
Speaker 2: like he was like they were bringing in like I
39:26
Speaker 2: don't know Clayton Kershaw or Justin Verlander in their prime
39:31
Speaker 2: of their career. I don't know. Spencer Turmble had a
39:33
Speaker 2: greatyear last year. Good for him, and I'm glad he
39:35
Speaker 2: signed with somebody, but he's not I mean, is Jose
39:37
Speaker 2: Urania and Spencer Turnbull gonna make the Blue Jays hit
39:41
Speaker 2: more homers and do more damage offensively? Because their pitching
39:44
Speaker 2: has been okay, it's been more of the fact that
39:46
Speaker 2: they haven't really hit. So I don't know. I mean,
39:49
Speaker 2: they're sixteen and eighteen right now, they're in fourth place,
39:51
Speaker 2: tied for third with the Rays. I guess so depending
39:53
Speaker 2: on how you look at it, But I don't know.
39:55
Speaker 2: I mean, these are nice moves for the people. But
39:57
Speaker 2: does it does it change the direction of the Blue
40:00
Speaker 2: Jay season?
40:00
Speaker 3: Ast you?
40:01
Speaker 2: I'll ask you that Scott.
40:03
Speaker 1: Does it change the direction of the season?
40:06
Speaker 6: No?
40:06
Speaker 1: Does it help them tread water? I think it could, right,
40:11
Speaker 1: I mean, Spencer Turnbull, if he's healthy, is a big
40:15
Speaker 1: league starting pitcher in my mind, And so I don't
40:18
Speaker 1: know what the money ended up being. But there was
40:20
Speaker 1: a standoff there and teams were just like not which
40:22
Speaker 1: has happened with quite a few other free agents. To me,
40:25
Speaker 1: this was just a case of a guy who's not
40:27
Speaker 1: that old. He's thirty two years old. Again, it was
40:29
Speaker 1: fifty some out innings last year, but a one fifty
40:32
Speaker 1: six ra plus. I mean, he was dynamite. That is
40:34
Speaker 1: actually probably comparable to Erland er Kershaw prime numbers. They
40:38
Speaker 1: just did it for like two hundred something innings instead
40:40
Speaker 1: of like fifty six innings. I get it, okay, but
40:44
Speaker 1: he could help the offense is to me, you know
40:47
Speaker 1: it's not there. Santander's had a slow start. Boba Schett
40:50
Speaker 1: finally at his first home run of the season this
40:53
Speaker 1: past weekend. I mean, to me, Kratz, I think that's
40:56
Speaker 1: the biggest X factor in the offense. In the offseason
40:59
Speaker 1: we were like, cool, Santandera gets added, Laddie should do
41:02
Speaker 1: Laddie things. Bo's gonna bounce back. The power is not
41:05
Speaker 1: bounced back for him.
41:08
Speaker 3: It hasn't.
41:08
Speaker 4: I'm not sure where it went, whether he was dealing
41:11
Speaker 4: with the elbow last year. As batting averages up higher
41:14
Speaker 4: this year. But this is this is really a make
41:19
Speaker 4: or break season. Boba Schet's is going to be in
41:21
Speaker 4: the big leagues next year. It's a matter of is
41:23
Speaker 4: he going to get a nice little shortstop deal or
41:27
Speaker 4: is he going to get a Dansby Swanson type of
41:31
Speaker 4: one hundred plus million dollar deal When he goes out
41:33
Speaker 4: into free agency and this team needs him, he's hitting
41:37
Speaker 4: at the top of their order. But even if he
41:41
Speaker 4: does turn it around like a team that has Andre Simenez, again,
41:46
Speaker 4: we love andres, we love him, and he's got platinum
41:49
Speaker 4: in his glove, but he doesn't have platinum.
41:51
Speaker 3: In his back.
41:52
Speaker 4: If he's hitting fourth or fifth in your lineup, you
41:54
Speaker 4: need other guys to step up that haven't yet. And
41:59
Speaker 4: it's really through this entire team.
42:05
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I mean, bo this year, you know,
42:08
Speaker 1: it's definitely a better year for him. I mean last
42:10
Speaker 1: year was a seventy ops plus five ninety eight ops.
42:14
Speaker 1: He's had a seven oh six right now, two eighty
42:16
Speaker 1: eight batting average, three twenty three on base, but the
42:18
Speaker 1: slugs three eighty four. I mean, that's the difference because
42:20
Speaker 1: he was really consistent. AJ. That was the one thing
42:23
Speaker 1: we looked at at the start of his career was
42:26
Speaker 1: season after season he is putting up well above average
42:29
Speaker 1: offensive numbers, and part of that, of course, was the
42:31
Speaker 1: slugin percentage at least in the mid to upper four hundreds.
42:35
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just not seeing that from him yet,
42:38
Speaker 1: and maybe the Homer gets it going, but I mean,
42:40
Speaker 1: to me, it goes a big standout. I don't know
42:43
Speaker 1: what twenty seven.
42:46
Speaker 2: That's that's why I wonder where did it go? What happened?
42:48
Speaker 2: It's not like he's, you know, thirty seven, he's twenty seven.
42:51
Speaker 2: What happened? I know you have rough months and rough
42:54
Speaker 2: this and rough that, but gosh, Bobashitt was such a
42:56
Speaker 2: dynamic player for so long. You just wonder where did
42:59
Speaker 2: it go?
43:01
Speaker 3: Really interesting to me, I have no idea.
43:04
Speaker 4: The swing is the swing to me, physically, effort wise,
43:08
Speaker 4: still looks the same. You know, he was always kind
43:10
Speaker 4: of it looked like he was off balance in the
43:13
Speaker 4: sense of like he would put some serious torque into it.
43:17
Speaker 4: And he still does that hand eye coordination. It just
43:20
Speaker 4: looks like it looks like he's not able to drive
43:23
Speaker 4: the ball to the gaps the same because he's always
43:26
Speaker 4: had that super quick batspeed, snap hooking doubles down the line.
43:32
Speaker 4: It's it is definitely a case that is intriguing to
43:35
Speaker 4: me to figure out why.
43:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's happening for Santander right now. He's
43:41
Speaker 1: got four homers sitting in a buck, seventy eight sludding
43:44
Speaker 1: three ten, got a little better.
43:46
Speaker 2: That's that's more pressure to me, Like I just signed
43:49
Speaker 2: a deal. I need to I need to perform. Give
43:52
Speaker 2: him a little bit of time. It happens to a
43:53
Speaker 2: lot of guys. I mean, let's let's give him a
43:56
Speaker 2: little bit of time. We're still in May. Let's get
43:57
Speaker 2: till June and then we'll talk about it. But that's
44:00
Speaker 2: that to me is a I signed a big contract,
44:01
Speaker 2: I got a press and we're not hitting, so I
44:03
Speaker 2: needed to carry it.
44:06
Speaker 4: Hey, sometimes there Santander is not a year in and
44:09
Speaker 4: year out forty guy.
44:11
Speaker 3: Early in his career he was here here, here, here.
44:14
Speaker 4: And then he started to really the last couple of years,
44:17
Speaker 4: started to figure out how to have that consistent doing
44:20
Speaker 4: consistent damage from year from season to season.
44:24
Speaker 1: A Jath. I think it's also just fair to say
44:26
Speaker 1: that this is a team that relies on starting pitching
44:30
Speaker 1: and defense more than anything else. You know, we we've
44:32
Speaker 1: looked on paper for years like, oh wow, this should
44:35
Speaker 1: be a really good lineup. But George Springer's getting up there.
44:39
Speaker 1: Bar Show is definitely more of a glove guy Bo
44:42
Speaker 1: doesn't have the power. Santander's off to a slow start.
44:45
Speaker 1: The bottom of the lineup's not intimidating, so you start
44:48
Speaker 1: to look up and you're like, yeah, I mean, go ahead,
44:51
Speaker 1: load up your rotation, make sure that you win those
44:54
Speaker 1: three two games because they're going to have to to
44:56
Speaker 1: stick around.
44:57
Speaker 2: You are what the numbers say you are at the
44:59
Speaker 2: end of the day, Scott. You can try to sugarcoat
45:02
Speaker 2: it with expected eras and expected batting averages and all this,
45:05
Speaker 2: but you are what your numbers say you are, and
45:08
Speaker 2: you're right. That's what this offense has been for the
45:09
Speaker 2: last few years. And when they've gotten into the playoffs,
45:11
Speaker 2: they haven't done anything offensively. That's why they much like
45:13
Speaker 2: the Orioles, right, the Oriols have bad, great offenses and
45:16
Speaker 2: they go to the postseason and they disappear. Why. Nobody knows, right,
45:19
Speaker 2: So at some point you are what you are. I
45:22
Speaker 2: don't know. There's no easy answer, because trust me, if
45:25
Speaker 2: there was an easy answer, GMS and owners and President
45:28
Speaker 2: of Baseball off so that have already figured this out.
45:30
Speaker 2: But it's just such a fickle game. Baseball it's so hard.
45:33
Speaker 1: Let's finish with this right now. Just in terms of
45:37
Speaker 1: teams that you like in the division, go one through
45:40
Speaker 1: five for me on the American League East, teams that
45:43
Speaker 1: you like, dunk off the standings, just you know, teams
45:46
Speaker 1: you like, teams you think are going to be legit
45:49
Speaker 1: playoff contenders, the whole deal. Go down the line, Crats,
45:52
Speaker 1: you want to go first?
45:55
Speaker 3: Yankees, Red Sox.
45:59
Speaker 4: I get I get it, I'm wrong in this, But
46:03
Speaker 4: I love the Orioles. I really think they just they
46:06
Speaker 4: have to turn it around and I don't see how.
46:09
Speaker 4: But and then the Jays and then the race. I
46:13
Speaker 4: think the Rays, I don't know if they can continue
46:16
Speaker 4: to hit the magic button this year without that one
46:19
Speaker 4: ace stepping up for their staff.
46:22
Speaker 1: AJ anything different from yours.
46:24
Speaker 2: I'm just going Yankees, Red Sox. If you're just asking
46:26
Speaker 2: playoff contenders right now, that's it. I mean another three are.
46:31
Speaker 2: But unless Baltimore does something, turns it around to prove
46:34
Speaker 2: me wrong, I can't. I just can't do it right
46:36
Speaker 2: now with the other teams in this especially the AL West,
46:39
Speaker 2: with where they're standing. And then I look at the
46:41
Speaker 2: center with the Tigers and the Royals, the Royals are
46:44
Speaker 2: a better team than than the Orioles. I just watched it.
46:47
Speaker 2: They beat them two out of three this weekend. I
46:49
Speaker 2: think they beat them two out of three in Kansas City,
46:52
Speaker 2: So I mean the Royals are a better team. So
46:54
Speaker 2: there's your six playoff teams. If you go Yankees, Red Sox,
46:57
Speaker 2: two of the West and two of the Central. There's
46:59
Speaker 2: your sick and where are the Orioles. They're out.
47:02
Speaker 4: I thought you meant to just rank the American League East.
47:04
Speaker 4: Sorry I didn't. I wasn't giving you my five playoff
47:07
Speaker 4: teams all coming from the East. But do you think
47:10
Speaker 4: the Day's signed Spencer Turnbull to not allow the Orioles.
47:15
Speaker 3: To sign him because happened?
47:17
Speaker 4: If he is a big league pitcher, why would the
47:21
Speaker 4: Oriols not The Orioles don't have five starting pitchers currently.
47:27
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I think that he was one
47:31
Speaker 1: of the veterans. In a standoff, he was in the
47:33
Speaker 1: Lance Lynn category, except they're two very different pitching profiles
47:38
Speaker 1: right now. I think Lance would also tell you, you know,
47:42
Speaker 1: like he was at the late stages of his career,
47:44
Speaker 1: he's okay stepping away. Spencer Turnbull's thirty two coming off
47:48
Speaker 1: the best results we've seen from him. He was not
47:51
Speaker 1: trying to step away. I mean, I don't know. We'll
47:53
Speaker 1: get the number at some point, but I don't know
47:56
Speaker 1: why Baltimore or plenty of other teams wouldn't jump at
48:00
Speaker 1: starter if he's available like this. But we haven't talked
48:02
Speaker 1: about in a while, so I'm okay doing this. AJ.
48:04
Speaker 1: David Robertson's still out there too, and he was a
48:07
Speaker 1: damn good reliever last year. It's not like, oh, it's
48:09
Speaker 1: been a couple of years. No, he's been good year
48:11
Speaker 1: after year, even though he's up there in age. So
48:13
Speaker 1: he'll probably sign if he wants to still play halfway
48:16
Speaker 1: through the season, and he'll get the number that he
48:18
Speaker 1: wanted there, you know where Let's say he wanted ten,
48:21
Speaker 1: and maybe a team at the deadline is like, you
48:22
Speaker 1: know what, instead of signing prospects, let's get David Robertson
48:25
Speaker 1: to try. He's been throwing the whole time here, and
48:27
Speaker 1: we'll sign him for five you know, ten pro rated
48:29
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year or something like that.
48:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's kind of like Lancelyn
48:36
Speaker 2: and Ross stripling in front of the show Chicken Strim
48:39
Speaker 2: who announced his retirement. Right at some point, the juice
48:42
Speaker 2: isn't worth the squeeze, isn't worth the juice. What is it?
48:44
Speaker 2: The juice isn't worth the squeeze. Whatever it is, what
48:46
Speaker 2: the saying is, and they just don't want to do
48:48
Speaker 2: it anymore. And you realize, you know what, I'm okay
48:50
Speaker 2: not playing baseball. You can't play baseball your whole life.
48:52
Speaker 2: So I don't know if David Robertson's going to come back.
48:54
Speaker 2: I mean, listen Spencer Turnbull to say he did Blue
48:57
Speaker 2: Jay sign him to keep him away from the Orioles.
48:59
Speaker 2: I think the Blue jayson him because Ross Atkins and
49:01
Speaker 2: Martin and Shapiro think there might be in trouble and
49:04
Speaker 2: they need to try to do everything they can to
49:06
Speaker 2: win this year. And they look at the other teams
49:07
Speaker 2: in division say this division is possibly winnable if we
49:10
Speaker 2: can get it right. So I don't know if it
49:12
Speaker 2: was to keep them away from the Oarls. I think
49:13
Speaker 2: it was more to improve their team. And you know what,
49:15
Speaker 2: if he does good, guess what they can do with
49:17
Speaker 2: them if they're out of it, they can trade them
49:19
Speaker 2: and try and get some prospects. So this is a
49:22
Speaker 2: win win for the for the Blue Jays. I don't
49:23
Speaker 2: think anything to do with the Oarls. I think it's
49:25
Speaker 2: just they were like, he can improve our team, because
49:27
Speaker 2: who do we have out there?
49:29
Speaker 1: Yep, agreed, brilliant. Yeah, if you're not in a good
49:31
Speaker 1: spot and he looks good, then you can flip them
49:34
Speaker 1: at that point. And he's had injury concerns in his career,
49:37
Speaker 1: well now you're really only going to get him for
49:39
Speaker 1: about a half a season, so you kind of limit
49:41
Speaker 1: that risk a little bit too, all right. Hes Sung
49:43
Speaker 1: Kim has been called up by the Dodgers, so he
49:46
Speaker 1: was an off season signing. We're kind of looking around,
49:49
Speaker 1: like does nobody else want this guy? And then the
49:51
Speaker 1: Dodgers have so much depth, ayja, they talk them into
49:54
Speaker 1: going down to the minor leagues for a bit. Eight
49:57
Speaker 1: oh one ops down at Triple A. Not not a
50:00
Speaker 1: big power guy, not a big exit velocity guy, which
50:05
Speaker 1: obviously you know a lot of front offices look at
50:07
Speaker 1: and see if you're at a certain threshold to kind
50:09
Speaker 1: of be a big leaguer. I was looking up the
50:11
Speaker 1: numbers for him. I'll get him in a sec on
50:14
Speaker 1: you know where he was at at least in triple A.
50:17
Speaker 1: So average exibilo was eighty seven point three miles an
50:20
Speaker 1: hour cleared ninety five, which is the hard hit rate
50:23
Speaker 1: number thirty one percent of the time. So that number
50:28
Speaker 1: would rank two thirty seven out of two hundred and
50:31
Speaker 1: sixty qualified hitters. I know what you're gonna say, that's
50:33
Speaker 1: not what he's known for. Start all over the Diamonds,
50:37
Speaker 1: make contact, run around. He didn't even get in that bat,
50:39
Speaker 1: yet they put him for an inning, in in at
50:42
Speaker 1: second base, in an inning at a pinch front.
50:46
Speaker 2: His nickname is the comment why because he runs fast right,
50:49
Speaker 2: stole a base last night. He's got the double oven
50:51
Speaker 2: mits going. Yeah. I mean his game is not power.
50:54
Speaker 2: That Dodgers did not sign him for power. They signed
50:57
Speaker 2: him for pinch running, defense and whatever else he can do.
51:00
Speaker 2: Get some hits, bunt, put some pressure on the defense.
51:02
Speaker 2: So book him to the big leagues, Hassan Kim. I
51:05
Speaker 2: hope it goes well for you. But a team like
51:07
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, I mean, it's hard to find a bats
51:09
Speaker 2: on that team, you know, because of who they have everywhere.
51:13
Speaker 2: But I think he can help them because I think
51:15
Speaker 2: he does bring in athleticism that they need, especially later
51:18
Speaker 2: in the games. And their manager he knows something about
51:21
Speaker 2: stealing bases.
51:23
Speaker 4: He knows he knows how important it is to get
51:26
Speaker 4: ninety feet. And this dude the other night when he
51:28
Speaker 4: came in, he got his team ninety feet. Yes, he
51:31
Speaker 4: stole base, obviously it was it was a I mean,
51:35
Speaker 4: it was no contest stolen base. But the play where
51:37
Speaker 4: it was a groundball, I think it was ground I
51:40
Speaker 4: forget where it was, but he advanced after the throw
51:43
Speaker 4: to third and Olsen tried to throw him out a
51:46
Speaker 4: third like it was. It was a legit play like
51:49
Speaker 4: that was a big league base running that Dave Roberts
51:53
Speaker 4: he loves that stuff because he used to do it.
51:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I assume he'll get a start, obviously in
51:59
Speaker 1: the next day or two, just to get him some
52:01
Speaker 1: AB's see what he looks like at the plate. The
52:04
Speaker 1: strikeerd percentage is a little high, but a small sample size.
52:07
Speaker 1: He's coming over from Overseas's let's give him a second here.
52:10
Speaker 1: But I mean, this was a guy who you know
52:12
Speaker 1: they brought in. Remember then they traded away Gavin Lux
52:17
Speaker 1: And by the way, he gets the playing time because
52:19
Speaker 1: Tommy Edmond hits the shelf ankle inflammation, So it doesn't
52:23
Speaker 1: sound like it's if he's serious.
52:25
Speaker 4: If he's getting a lot of at bats, the Dodgers
52:27
Speaker 4: are not in a good place. But that's not a
52:29
Speaker 4: knock against him, It's a knock against how deep this
52:33
Speaker 4: team is. Look at the dudes that are on the bench.
52:36
Speaker 4: I need to give key k at bats versus right handers.
52:39
Speaker 4: Chris Taylor when he's healthy like this is he should
52:44
Speaker 4: not be getting a ton of at bats with the
52:46
Speaker 4: way that this team is constructed. But he can step
52:49
Speaker 4: in and be a veteran spark plug, which is rare
52:53
Speaker 4: to find an older and older player with a lot
52:55
Speaker 4: of experience that can step in and.
52:58
Speaker 3: Do that kind of thing.
53:00
Speaker 1: And then I just want to point this out, and
53:02
Speaker 1: I'll pair the two together. Aj Yamamoto for the Dodgers
53:06
Speaker 1: and then Max Free who pitched on Friday for the
53:09
Speaker 1: Yanks and shoved again. I mean, those two right now
53:12
Speaker 1: are front runners for SI. We're super early, but I
53:15
Speaker 1: feel like now that we're, you know, six weeks or
53:17
Speaker 1: so into the season, we can give them some extra love.
53:20
Speaker 2: They've been ridiculous, they have, And my question is is
53:24
Speaker 2: is Yamamoto just going to be the Friday night college
53:26
Speaker 2: starter and Sazaki Saturday, and then it was Glass now Sunday.
53:30
Speaker 2: Like they're on a once a week schedule here, it's
53:32
Speaker 2: like college, right, they have a Friday night starter Saturday.
53:34
Speaker 2: I mean eventually they're going to have to mix that up, right?
53:36
Speaker 2: Do the Dodgers have enough depth to keep doing bullpen
53:39
Speaker 2: games to keep them on this once a week schedule?
53:41
Speaker 1: Hey, it's working for Yamamoto. I wouldn't change a thing, Yamamoto.
53:45
Speaker 1: Fridays are a vibe right now.
53:48
Speaker 2: You're right, Just Sazaki's on Saturday and it was Glass
53:50
Speaker 2: now on Sunday. So I don't know. Do they have
53:53
Speaker 2: enough depth to keep that going the whole year? I know,
53:55
Speaker 2: or what's thirty five games in? But do they have
53:59
Speaker 2: enough depth to keep it going?
54:01
Speaker 4: Yes, And they have a good enough lineup to keep
54:03
Speaker 4: it going where the other night's ah, yeah, you know what.
54:06
Speaker 4: Ultimately it's probably gonna end up screwing somebody else. But
54:10
Speaker 4: leave him on Fridays. Hey, you're playing Friday, like, we'll
54:14
Speaker 4: see you the rest of the week. To me, I
54:15
Speaker 4: want to hit I want to hit him Freed, Max Freed.
54:19
Speaker 4: It almost looks like he brings a different intensity that
54:22
Speaker 4: I don't always see out of Yankees' pitchers. You know,
54:27
Speaker 4: you have the superstars, and you know they got rodin
54:30
Speaker 4: the year that he was the best available. They got
54:33
Speaker 4: Garrett Cole his cashman's white whale. Max Freed is gonna
54:38
Speaker 4: usher in kind of the next era of Yankee starting
54:43
Speaker 4: pitching free agents. And he couldn't have been He couldn't
54:47
Speaker 4: have been more you know, well received the way he's
54:50
Speaker 4: been pitching. He also keeps the running game down like
54:53
Speaker 4: it's something like he's like full he's full service for
54:56
Speaker 4: the Yankees, and I think Garrett Cole, who this year.
55:13
Speaker 1: Let's slap. I mean, it's a perfect topic for slap.
55:15
Speaker 1: Lance mccullors junior is back three and two thirds, four strikeouts,
55:20
Speaker 1: a few hits, nowhere runs. I mean, he was getting
55:23
Speaker 1: a lot of crap for years from fans on socials.
55:26
Speaker 1: I get it. It's not fun, but he made it
55:29
Speaker 1: back aj which is incredible. I mean, it had been years,
55:32
Speaker 1: he hadn't pitched since what was it, the twenty twenty
55:34
Speaker 1: two Playoffs.
55:35
Speaker 2: Game three, Game three. Damn, he looked pretty good. He
55:42
Speaker 2: threw the ball pretty well, So yeah, good for you. Lance,
55:46
Speaker 2: welcome back. I know it's been a long road. We
55:47
Speaker 2: interviewed you last year in spring training and he said
55:50
Speaker 2: he was getting close and it never happened. But I'm
55:52
Speaker 2: glad he's back. It's a plus. It's a plus when
55:54
Speaker 2: guys get back after all the time that he missed.
55:59
Speaker 2: Guys that go through it injuries, it's one thing, but
56:01
Speaker 2: guys that go through injuries that stack on top of
56:04
Speaker 2: injuries on top of injuries, and you're almost back.
56:08
Speaker 3: He never really knew.
56:09
Speaker 4: He was like, I almost can't believe that I'm actually
56:12
Speaker 4: getting back out there because he got close sometimes to
56:15
Speaker 4: get to that next threshold and then something else set
56:18
Speaker 4: him back. So that's awesome. He's got to be proud
56:21
Speaker 4: of himself for making it back through all of that.
56:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, credit to Lance. Hopefully we can get him on
56:26
Speaker 1: the show soon. Russ Stripling announced his retirement, someone who's
56:30
Speaker 1: been on our show very frequently. So there. It is
56:33
Speaker 1: a nice little look at some of the unis for Ross,
56:36
Speaker 1: of course, including the Dodgers and the Blue Jays last
56:40
Speaker 1: year on the A's the Giants before that. So Chicken Strip,
56:45
Speaker 1: we love you, miss you, Congratulations on an incredible career
56:48
Speaker 1: and we'll bring them in at some point to talk
56:51
Speaker 1: about it. Of course, good good voice in the game,
56:54
Speaker 1: you know, really good representative of our sport, good ambassador
56:57
Speaker 1: always you know at his locker, that whole deal and
56:59
Speaker 1: then even to a show like us to give a
57:02
Speaker 1: lot of time.
57:05
Speaker 3: Pro pros pro.
57:07
Speaker 2: That's a great career advisor.
57:09
Speaker 4: To make money, keep keep making money, be a financial advisor.
57:14
Speaker 3: Keep making money.
57:16
Speaker 1: That's right that he may make more post career.
57:20
Speaker 2: AJ make your second career better than your first career.
57:23
Speaker 3: Scott M.
57:24
Speaker 4: That's that's tough. You're gonna have to really do something.
57:27
Speaker 4: He made a lot of money, but he also.
57:29
Speaker 3: Broke in late.
57:29
Speaker 4: Never really was like that guy who was like, oh,
57:32
Speaker 4: we're giving you the starting spot. He would bounce around.
57:35
Speaker 4: Then he established himself, got a good, great contract.
57:39
Speaker 3: Good for him.
57:41
Speaker 1: This is my second career. I think it's been better.
57:43
Speaker 1: I like it. Crats you more fun, more fun.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, more fun than trying to hit a slider.
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