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I Hear Dead People · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Scott Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: I played Herschel Green on The Walking Dead, and this
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  Speaker 2: is Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 5: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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  Speaker 1: Kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Mike.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Beau.
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  Speaker 6: And we're coming to you live, a digital recording from
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  Speaker 6: 180 Degrees Studios. Once again, thank you, Michael, for letting
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  Speaker 6: us come back here.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 6: So, how are things at the studios?
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  Speaker 1: They're great. Working on a lot of exciting projects. Thankfully,
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  Speaker 1: we're busy, looks like, most of the year.
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  Speaker 6: That's a good thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's wonderful.
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  Speaker 6: Hard to come by in a not steeped in filmmaking town.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 6: So, it's impressive.
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  Speaker 1: 2015 really hurt, so I'm hoping 2016 is going to blossom.
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  Speaker 6: I have some issues with this town, but we're working
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  Speaker 6: on them.
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  Speaker 7: No, there's exciting things happening here.
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  Speaker 6: There are exciting things. Sometimes we fight them, but exciting
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  Speaker 6: things are in the works.
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  Speaker 5: I think usually the issue is there's 20 exciting things
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  Speaker 5: happening at once, but only about 5% of the population
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  Speaker 5: is interested in those. And so once you divide them
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  Speaker 5: amongst those 20... They're in large problems.
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  Speaker 6: I have that complaint quite often. I'm like, we do
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  Speaker 6: all these cool things, and there's 12 people that leave
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  Speaker 6: the house and go to the... And it's the same
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  Speaker 6: 12 people I'll see at every event. I'm like, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 6: it's you again. How's it going?
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  Speaker 7: I feel like Louisville... I don't live here, so I
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  Speaker 7: get to say this about Louisville.
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  Speaker 6: We will trash it way more than you.
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  Speaker 7: No, I'm about to say something really positive.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, well, no wonder.
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  Speaker 6: That's because you don't live here.
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  Speaker 7: It's on the precipice of being a film town. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: it's already a film town, but I think it's on
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  Speaker 7: the precipice of being one of the film towns.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 6: It's got potential to be.
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  Speaker 1: It is. We even started our own Louisville Film Commission.
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  Speaker 6: I've seen you.
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  Speaker 1: On which I was named a commissioner, so I'm a
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  Speaker 1: government official now.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, that means you're shady now.
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  Speaker 8: I knew it.
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  Speaker 1: I can be bought.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, we came to the wrong place for that. This
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  Speaker 6: is the wrong show for that. On that note, let's
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  Speaker 6: get to more cheery things like, oh yeah. death so
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  Speaker 6: again I figured we better roll into it relatively quickly
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  Speaker 6: based on previous years versions of this episode and just
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  Speaker 6: looking at the list the last couple of days a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people died in 2015 I.
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  Speaker 7: Feel like people really upped it toward the end yeah
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  Speaker 7: like just getting in under the wire kind.
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  Speaker 6: Of thing they got their game on we even had
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  Speaker 6: a few slip in on the other side I'm like
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  Speaker 6: nope you're waiting till next year too bad it's like
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  Speaker 6: you came in January 1st it's your own fault we
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  Speaker 6: can't talk about you now So, I guess we should
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  Speaker 6: get two people who have died, die. Do we have
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  Speaker 6: one we want to kick it off with in particular,
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  Speaker 6: or should I just roll down the list?
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  Speaker 1: Well, your list may be different than my list, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear your list.
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  Speaker 6: Mine are in absolutely no order, and we're going to
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  Speaker 6: hit and miss total. I mean, there were so many people.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I'll try to at least hit the
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  Speaker 6: names on some of them.
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  Speaker 5: I just picked like six where they were especially memorable
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  Speaker 5: and mostly just like, what's the one or two movies
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  Speaker 5: I remember them for?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that was the one that just happened to be
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  Speaker 6: at the top of the list was one that you
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  Speaker 6: had on yours, Beau. So, Rod Taylor was at the
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  Speaker 6: top of this list that I had. So, any specifics?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's listed as being a favorite of Hitchcock.
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  Speaker 6: He's definitely a... What was it?
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  Speaker 3: The Birds?
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  Speaker 6: I still kind of think of the Time Machine probably more.
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  Speaker 1: I think Time Machine's my favorite of his. Hitchcock had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of favorites, though. I don't think.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's sort of an oxymoron, though. An actor
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  Speaker 6: who is Hitchcock's favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Is this still an aside? Several ingenues.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like being an actor who is Hitchcock's favorite
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  Speaker 6: is just a backhanded compliment.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: The man-hated actor. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: You're my favorite dentist.
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  Speaker 6: You're the person I hate the least. Is that how
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  Speaker 6: this goes? Thank you for not screwing it up as
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  Speaker 6: much as everyone else from the way I storyboard.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, man, who says that actors are cattle. I
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  Speaker 5: appreciate the compliment that you find me the most tolerable.
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  Speaker 6: I think he said they were less than cattle. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think, that was like an insult to cattle everywhere.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, what did you have for him? Or
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  Speaker 6: thoughts on him, though?
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  Speaker 5: I mostly had, yeah, Birds and Glorious Bastards and Time Machine.
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  Speaker 5: Because I really like the fact that Tarantino sort of
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  Speaker 5: strong-armed him out of retirement. to get him to play
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  Speaker 5: the cameo in Inglourious Basterds.
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  Speaker 1: Because at first I was like, this guy, wait, is
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  Speaker 1: that Rod Taylor?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And that was, part of me was
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  Speaker 5: actually like, oh, I kind of forgot he was still alive.
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  Speaker 5: But now I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: That happens to some of these people on this list.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think just in a way of the particular
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  Speaker 5: roles that really struck me the most with Taylor was
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  Speaker 5: Time Machine. It's such a fun George Powell production, and
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  Speaker 5: he seems to be just really living it up on it.
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  Speaker 5: He becomes sort of a screen action hero. I won't
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  Speaker 5: even mention the remake that they came up with that
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  Speaker 5: was just abominable.
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  Speaker 6: Orlando Jones is wonderful in that movie.
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  Speaker 1: Is it Orlando Jones?
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  Speaker 6: He's the computer. When he talks to the computer when
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  Speaker 6: he gets to those screens, it's Orlando Jones.
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  Speaker 1: That was, I came very close to walking out of
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  Speaker 1: that film.
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  Speaker 5: I've only walked out of one movie in all my
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  Speaker 5: theater-going years, but that was close to being the second one.
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  Speaker 1: Was it The Thin Red Line? It should have been
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  Speaker 1: The Thin Red Line. You should have walked out of
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  Speaker 1: that if you saw it in the theater.
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  Speaker 5: No, I sat there. It was the only movie I've
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  Speaker 5: ever walked out of, and now we're totally going.
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  Speaker 1: Off on a sidetrack.
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  Speaker 6: Since we're on the side, go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, is The Bread, My Sweet. It was hailed as
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  Speaker 5: the next My Big Fat Greek Wedding movie.
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  Speaker 6: That was a good thing?
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  Speaker 1: That was the title?
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  Speaker 7: That brought you to the theater?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's just, I mean, working at a movie theater,
• 8:00
  Speaker 5: I saw everything that came through. Did you enjoy Cats?
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  Speaker 1: Did I enjoy Cats?
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  Speaker 6: Who doesn't?
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  Speaker 1: You mean Cats and Dogs?
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  Speaker 6: I'm just talking about the felines or actual.
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  Speaker 1: The musical.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, never mind.
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  Speaker 1: It's usually the same. If we're going to stereotype, it's
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  Speaker 1: the same cat. Oh, Mr. Mustaf.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, back on our other aside, I felt like that
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  Speaker 6: Time Machine remake, I was like, they did a decent
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  Speaker 6: job with that building, the set and the machine, and
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  Speaker 6: the first third in, I'm like, I'd heard so many
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  Speaker 6: bad things. I saw it on DVD, so well after
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  Speaker 6: it had a horrible reputation, I'm just like, is this fine?
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  Speaker 6: I don't see what, oh, we get to the creatures,
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  Speaker 6: the Morlocks, and I'm just like, this is horrible. Something
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  Speaker 6: about Everything from that point on just spirals out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly those effects. I don't even remember what it is
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  Speaker 1: that I hated about it so much.
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  Speaker 5: I just remember vividly just really, really, really wanting to
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  Speaker 5: walk out of theater.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no.
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  Speaker 5: If I want to complain about this, then I will
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  Speaker 5: sit through the entire thing. And now it's like it
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  Speaker 5: was so bad I just purged it from my memory.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even remember what.
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  Speaker 1: I hated about it.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm not going to go back and remind myself.
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  Speaker 9: You should.
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  Speaker 1: It's great.
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  Speaker 6: You should watch it again. No, the creatures and whatever
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  Speaker 6: effects they are using is horrible. So, yeah, that was.
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  Speaker 6: And probably lack of Rod Taylor. I feel like he
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  Speaker 6: had a good knack for that everyman kind of thing,
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  Speaker 6: which is probably why Hitchcock wanted to use him. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: Time Machine is probably one of the few that he
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  Speaker 6: starts off that way and then gets to be kind
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  Speaker 6: of action hero guy. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Can I bring him into Kentucky? Because that's what I do.
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  Speaker 7: That is your thing. He was in Raintree County, which
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  Speaker 7: I think has a tie-in as being one of the
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  Speaker 7: early films that the Kentucky Film Commission brought to Kentucky,
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  Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: I believe you're right.
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  Speaker 7: Colonel Eben Henson was deep in that thing. And it's
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  Speaker 7: a terrible story. great movie if anybody has not seen it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm familiar. My uncle Ron Chilton was in it.
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  Speaker 8: Really?
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  Speaker 7: Doing what?
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  Speaker 5: He was one of the soldiers that actually got a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of time with Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 7: On or off screen?
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  Speaker 6: What number husband was he?
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  Speaker 5: It was just brief on screen.
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  Speaker 7: That's really exciting.
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  Speaker 1: He's got some fun photos that he has from that time.
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  Speaker 7: That's so cool. Well, they have a lot of the
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  Speaker 7: original set pieces at the Pioneer Playhouse in Danville, which
• 10:33
  Speaker 7: is great, which is really fun. They've got the train
• 10:36
  Speaker 7: depot as their ticket counter. But yeah, it's just kind
• 10:39
  Speaker 7: of a knockoff. I mean, it's not even trying to
• 10:43
  Speaker 7: be anything other than a Gone with the Wind knockoff,
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  Speaker 7: I don't think, but it's very entertaining in its own right.
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  Speaker 7: And a young, beautiful Montgomery Cliff.
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  Speaker 6: As another aside, Montgomery Clift, who is not on the list.
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  Speaker 7: Not this year's list.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 6: Anyway, we'll leave it at that. Leonard Nimoy. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: where do you start? Let's start where most people know
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  Speaker 6: him best, his music career.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 7: I know him best for making me afraid to live
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  Speaker 7: in Los Angeles. He did that documentary about, like, how
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  Speaker 7: there's going to be an earthquake and how everybody's going
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  Speaker 7: to die.
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  Speaker 6: He narrated it. Well, that part's true.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was really, really powerful, though.
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  Speaker 6: But that's true here, too, really.
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  Speaker 7: Like, when he says it, there's something authoritative about it
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  Speaker 7: that you don't really... Like, when Nimoy tells you you're
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  Speaker 7: going to die, there you go.
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  Speaker 6: You've got a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, more than his role as Spock, I really like
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  Speaker 5: his role in the remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great... Playing the psychologist, you know, that.
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  Speaker 5: He's like the biggest red herring in most of the
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  Speaker 5: movie compared to everybody else. Because, you know, there are
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  Speaker 5: a lot of like, you know, switcheroos trying to figure
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  Speaker 5: out who's who. And he's one where almost from the beginning,
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  Speaker 5: you're wondering, is he one of the, you know.
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  Speaker 6: They set it up, yeah, very much to be like, well,
• 12:04
  Speaker 6: obviously this guy, you know, he's. Doesn't he have the
• 12:08
  Speaker 6: full on turtleneck action going on?
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  Speaker 1: I just like, I just like all his baby books.
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  Speaker 1: I think those are amazing.
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  Speaker 7: He knew a lot about child rearing for somebody from
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  Speaker 7: another planet.
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  Speaker 6: That is pretty impressive. Again, it's one of those, you'd
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  Speaker 6: get to those other, because he was so known for that,
• 12:25
  Speaker 6: but the first time I saw Baffled, I'm assuming you're
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  Speaker 6: familiar with it, race car driving Leonard Nimoy. I just
• 12:33
  Speaker 6: played it again this past year, and I think they
• 12:35
  Speaker 6: re-released it on DVD.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that movie in forever. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a reason. Yeah, there's a reason.
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  Speaker 6: I love those kind of movies. So, yeah, it's that
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  Speaker 6: kind of stuff I want to come back to.
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  Speaker 7: Wait, is everybody familiar with this movie other than me?
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  Speaker 6: He's a race car driver, and there's some sort of
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  Speaker 6: weird psychic things going on. He has some sort of powers,
• 12:53
  Speaker 6: but he doesn't know he has powers or something.
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  Speaker 7: What year is this?
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  Speaker 6: It was post-Star Trek, so it was probably, what, early 70s,
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  Speaker 6: something like that.
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  Speaker 7: It sounds definitely 70s.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Again, his outfits. It is definitely a 70s movie. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: driving race cars.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm going to latch on to that with a
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: transition because speaking of 70s movies with race cars that
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: we'd all forgotten about, let's talk the Love Bug series
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  Speaker 5: and the great Dean Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Who passed on.
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  Speaker 5: Because he was one of, you know, all my favorite.
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  Speaker 5: I loved the live action Disney movies when I was
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  Speaker 5: a kid. And, you know, I knew off the top
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  Speaker 5: of my head before we even got here, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: he was in Love Bug, Ugly Dachshund, that darn cat,
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  Speaker 5: and then started looking. I was like, oh, I forgot
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: he was in Shaggy D. Oh, I forgot he was
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: in Blackbeard's Ghost. Like, all the big, blocky, clamshell Disney
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  Speaker 5: VHS tapes in my childhood collection are just filled with
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  Speaker 5: this man. And, you know, I always thought, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: even realize it at the time when my parents took
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  Speaker 5: us to see Beethoven in the theaters in the 90s.
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  Speaker 5: And it wasn't until as I was an adult I realized,
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  Speaker 5: holy crap, that's Dean Jones playing this like very sort
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  Speaker 5: of psychotic and, you know, villain.
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  Speaker 6: Like on the other end of the kids movie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: he bookended it with, okay, I've been the good guy
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  Speaker 6: in 14 of them. Now I'm going to be the
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  Speaker 6: villain in one. Yeah, he's, it is one of those
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  Speaker 6: that became his calling card for like that bulk of
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  Speaker 6: his career. It was like he was just the go-to
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  Speaker 6: live action Disney guy.
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  Speaker 5: And really he just plays like the same character, but
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  Speaker 5: it just sort of works. I mean, Disney happened on
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  Speaker 5: that formula of live action films like in the late
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: 60s early 70s and I don't know I mean like
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  Speaker 5: I said I just grew up watching them almost more
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  Speaker 5: than the animated Disney films and so um yeah once
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: I saw he passed I was like oh no my
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: childhood oh it is funny those.
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  Speaker 6: Kind of were forgotten like everybody when they when that
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  Speaker 6: resurgence of the animated ones hit like that's all everybody
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  Speaker 6: cared about like it was like you know they used
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  Speaker 6: to make live action it's not like it was an
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  Speaker 6: unheard of thing It was equally as much what they
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: were devoting their time to.
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  Speaker 5: Which I would assume those are on DVD.
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  Speaker 1: Surely.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have to be, I would think.
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  Speaker 1: Disney's making money one way or another. I would think
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  Speaker 1: you could even stream them. I would think. Probably Amazon.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think Condor Man got like a re-release,
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  Speaker 5: like a decent. So if they've released that.
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  Speaker 6: If they got to Condor Man.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Then they've done all the others.
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  Speaker 6: They have to.
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  Speaker 1: Condor Man.
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  Speaker 6: The classics and talent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: You're not leaving this room until you write a script.
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: What are we going to do?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: What are we going to do?
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: Get those monkeys in the typewriter.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? I'm looking at this bird outside.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: Somebody should have just tried to stretch and just make
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: up a lawsuit about how Birdman was like a remake
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  Speaker 5: of Condor Man.
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  Speaker 1: Condor Man.
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  Speaker 6: I think.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, erase all of this because I've got a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 6: Or just start writing your new reboot to Birdman 2.
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  Speaker 1: The electric boogaloo.
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  Speaker 6: Colon the Condor Man.
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  Speaker 1: Wes Craven.
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  Speaker 6: We definitely have to get to Wes Craven. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: My go-to is going to be Nightmare. The Nightmare one
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  Speaker 6: sheet is hanging on my wall right now. I think
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  Speaker 6: it was one of the most impressive horror movies. Certainly
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  Speaker 6: of its time. I feel like that first one still
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  Speaker 6: holds up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely the most quintessential of all
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: this stuff because, you know, out of the 80s, you
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: had so many different, you know, teen slasher films. And,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: you know, after Halloween, a lot of them sprung up.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't really feel like somebody kind of really
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: hit something unique in the genre until Nightmare came along. And,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: you know, the character of Freddy has become, like, one
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: of the big.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Icons of horror in the way of just, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a monster.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: And cause he was so massively, I mean, cause you
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: look at the formula of Michael Myers and Jason and
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: how different are they really? I know there are huge
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: defenders on both sides there and they are all pissed
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: at that comment, I'm sure. But I'm like, they're just,
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: they're still just a mask slasher guy where Freddie, there
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: were new rules. There were no rules. There was just
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: like a whole new aspect thrown into it. And then again,
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: I think that the, Sequels got sillier as they went along.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: I think the best of the bunch is the third
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: one because he came back, and I think he was
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: the story credit and producer. So I think first and
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: third are definitely the best of that bunch, and they
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: were because Wes Craven was involved. It's also visually way
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: more impressive. People probably get lumped in with bad slashers,
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: but go back and watch that first one. There's some
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: really disturbing imagery in there.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Johnny Depp said it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Bringing back Kentucky.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: That's right. See how I did that?
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Back when he wasn't a lunatic.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: And if I can digress slightly into a Wes Craven
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: movie story from the old theater managing days. Music of
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: the Heart.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: The curveball that is.
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: These horror guys always have one weird sports.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Movie, and you're just, wait, what? Music of the Heart
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: is to Wes Craven. It's like, you know, straight story
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: was to David Lynch sort of thing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: But, you know.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: I was thinking that baseball one for, uh.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: I remember.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, Raimi.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Raimi.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: The weekend we opened up Music of the Heart at
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: the Baxter, it was just selling out every single show.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Just one time after the next, after the next, after
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the next.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: And it was the 7 o'clock show on a Saturday
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: that we packed the place 20 minutes before the film
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: was even to start. And I'm up selling tickets at
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: the counter. And this woman, probably in her 50s, came
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: up and she said, my mother had an accident in
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: the theater. Could I get some paper towels? I was like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: what do you mean an accident?
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: It doesn't sound good at all.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: And she was like, well, she threw up a little bit.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: And I was like, well, I'll go get an usher
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: with a mop or something. She's like, no, no, no,
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: it wasn't that much here. I'll I'll take care of it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: You know, trust me.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay. Okay.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Gave her the roll of paper towels.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And this is before the movie started.
• 19:20
  Speaker 8: It was before.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Okay. Just checking.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Like 10 minutes before the lights even go down.
• 19:23
  Speaker 10: Sure.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Because I was like, we could totally. And she's like, no,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: it's so crowded in there. You know, we're surrounded.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And I didn't get a chance until like after the
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: previews had gotten started and all that. Um, to go down,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: you know, by the time I finished selling tickets, go
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: down to the theater. And once I went in, the
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: smell was like a slap to the face of like, just,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: you know, very, very clear vomit smell.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, God, how is that?
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Nobody come out to complain about, you know, and I
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: did what I could with the ventilation to keep air circulating. But,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: you know, I just kept checking back and it was just,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: you know, so pungent. And on top of that, it's like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: it was so crowded in there. I was having trouble
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: keeping it cool. So it was like this, you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: this just hot oven of just like vomit, just puke. And,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: you know, so many people come out to, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: complain about little things. And throughout the entire course of
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: that film, not one person ever came out to say
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: something about the temperature or the smell, which utterly like
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: it became legend at the theater. Like it just carried
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: on because everyone's like, you remember that one time, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: we referred to it as music at the bar after that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: And after everybody left, we went in to go clean
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: it up and I saw the woman leaving who'd apparently
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: done it. And it's like the pile on the floor
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: was the size of this little old lady. Like it
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: was just almost inconceivable how it would have come out
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: of her. And her daughter had just taken the paper
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: towel roll and just set.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It on top.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: So it absorbed the fluid into this full paper towel
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: roll and just all the solid. We had to get
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: the snow shovel to like get it into a garbage can.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: But it's like, That is a testament to the storytelling
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: power of Wes Craven that nobody came out to say anything.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: They were that hooked by what was on screen.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: And probably the least likely film you would expect someone
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: to throw up at. Not the bed scene in Nightmare.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Music of the Heart.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: That's one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I knew a guy who worked for the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Meteorological Survey and he used to go to the Arctic
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Circle to take methane levels in the air. So the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: way they would do this is they would fix these
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: meters to the wings of the plane, and they would
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: go up and then dip down and up and dip down.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So he's on board with 24 scientists, and one of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: them starts to get sick, and he pulls out a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: barf bag and he pukes into it, and it's clear.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It's a clear barf bag. Which starts a chain reaction.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Like, stand by me.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: That's right. So 24 scientists all just barfing one right
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: after the other. It was a domino effect. So, anyway.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Wes Craven.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: From here on out, yes, we have to figure out
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: some sort of vomit story that links to each one
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: of the deceased doctors that we were going to talk about.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: People Under the Stairs was probably my favorite.
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: That's another one of those that gets lost in the
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: bigger ones, but it's so imaginative.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it's probably because it had the kid from, what
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was it, the.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh. What was that baseball movie?
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: The Sandlot?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: The Sandlot. Thank you. A kid from the Sandlot.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: And from my so-called life.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Truth be told, my favorite of his, it's not the
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: one that I think is his best, but just the
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: one that I pop in the most at the greatest
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: frequency is Serpent and the Rainbow.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Now, that one freaked me out. I rarely
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: get freaked out by films, but that one gave me
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the heebie-jeebies.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I think it gets a little greedy in the fourth
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: act because then all the supernatural stuff, it's getting very,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: very silly. But all the way up to the whole
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: sequence where they even show it in the trailer and
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: all that. Bill Pullman's being put underground. He's just like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: don't bury me. I'm not dead yet. Everything up until
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: then is pretty intense. But then afterwards, it's like... all right, well,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: we can't make this like the ending of The Vanishing,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: so I guess we'll figure out a way that he gets.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Out and then it turns into this weird supernatural fight.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: It's a remake of The Vanishing.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Craven always had a knack for taking something that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was uniquely terrifying and adding just a little bit of camp,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: which I never, you know, that's why he's never been
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: classified personally as one of my favorite directors. but one
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that I've always respected.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Which he does that very well in Scream, because he's
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: just essentially making fun of his own movies.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But he does it so well, though.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's one I was going to have to get
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: to before we were done. I was like, when you
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: thought he was done, he came back and totally reinvented
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: and reinvigorated horror. Like, 90s horror was dead. Everybody was
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: so sick of the slashers that 90s took this nosedive,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: and it wasn't until Scream came along and went, Oh, yeah.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: It was like not, it in a way also brought
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: us self-aware horror movies, which now there's kind of too
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: many of those. But I don't know. I think it's still,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: it did such.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And also sort of reinvigorated dark comedies too.
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: You know, for that era.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: It finds that line where it doesn't totally play it straight,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: but it's the self-aware humor and the characters who kind
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: of realize sort of the situation they're in, but not
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: to what degree until it's too late. So I think
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: all of that kind of comes into play. But yeah,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: for somebody who was later into his career at that
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: point to have something that huge and that totally changed, again,
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: an entire genre from that point on, that's pretty impressive. Yeah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: And, you know, if we're going to talk genre changers
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: and horror, we might as well bring up Christopher.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Lee at this point.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Which I would say Christopher Lee, I think, I feel
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: like is the most substantial death that you had in 2015.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: That's Sir Christopher Lee to you.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He will come back from the grave and kick
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: your ass.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: He can do that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I've seen it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: You've got to figure horror had just sort of died
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: off in the 40s because you had nothing but just
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: sequels and stuff that was just being made very low budget.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: And when Hammer Studios in the late 50s started doing
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: their takes on Dracula and Frankenstein and The Mummy that
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Lee all played.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: it reinvigorated the horror genre again.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: It just gave it a whole new spin. They upped
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: the violence, they upped the sexual content, and a lot
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: of them, they just did different spins on them to
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: where so many of them felt more like folk tales
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: than that. And Lee was one of the big icons
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: within Hammer Studios. Him, across from Peter Cushing, the two
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: did dozens of films together.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: It's one of those times when, because American films always
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: take the lead in what the world is doing, or
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: certainly think of themselves as taking the lead. But there
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: are so many notable times when you see them go, oh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: this is what they're doing in Britain or Italy? Or, like,
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: there's so many times when they'll be like, oh, so
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: we need to do things like this now. So it
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: was one of those, like, American horror kind of hit
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: the stopping point, and then suddenly British horror comes along
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: and is like, well, we can do this, and now
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: they can get naked, by the way. Did you guys
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: know that? So it did, all of a sudden, American
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: horror was like, oh, wait a minute. This is going
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: to change how we do things from here on out.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: So you do see that change in the late 70s.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Horror becomes a whole new thing in this country.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Because all the sexual undertones that were kind of there
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: and everything from the original cat people to Dracula and
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: all that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It's like, we're just going to make it a little
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: bit more overt now. And it worked.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: But I think Lee's, probably his best role is easily
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Wicker Man.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just because he's so damned likable.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Even when, you know, he's burning people alive, it's like,
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: I want to stand next to this guy and sing
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: with him.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: He's so charming.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: He kind of has to be in that. I mean,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: to make that movie work, it's such a weird dynamic
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: in general. As a whole, that's such a weird movie.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: That like, for it all to work, you kind of
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: need Both of your main characters to sort of be
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: able to pull it along. And he definitely picks up
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: that other half. And it's just, yeah, he's likable no
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: matter what horrible things occur.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: But it's like all the battle of wits that you
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: have between him as Lord Summerow and then Edward Woodward
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: as Sergeant Howie. It's just this back and forth. You know,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: it's like, here's something about, you know, Christianity well paganism
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: it's just this back and forth to where pretty much
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: in every single conversation it's like I gotta side with
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Summerhall there it's like he makes a more convincing argument
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: and I think you almost kind of had to do
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: that with that film too because so many audiences would
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: be seeing this and you know that type of religion
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: would have been very foreign to them. And so it's like, well, here,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: we'll make this both informative but persuasive as well. You
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: don't absolutely detest everyone in the village, though they are
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: sort of the antagonists in all of this. But again,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: it's sort of that battle of the religions. You could
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: almost see Howie as an antagonist to an extent, depending
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: on how you look at it. That's what I think
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: makes it such a solid film.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Well, that's if you believe in the normal convention that
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: antagonists have to be unlikable. And they don't. Plenty of
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: antagonists are likable.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: The best are pretty damn likable.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: That's right. I would find Frank Booth charming.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: In his own sick, twisted way, I mean, he's certainly...
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: You can see why he has this group of people
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: that follows him around. He is mesmerizing, good, bad, or otherwise.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: He's certainly an interesting character and does kind of attention
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: and people's respect and yeah so but lee's one of
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: those that like he started like early i think he
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: even started coming out of silent film in those really
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: early ones but like somebody who went again came back
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: and totally at the tail end of their career like
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: everything all of a sudden i've said that a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: lately is you have to you know any of our
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: franchises we have to find an old british guy to
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: like bring it in and up the respectability we just
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: did it again with star wars but Lord of the
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Rings needed somebody to kind of balance that out too,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: much like the, okay, we've got Gandalf, what else can
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: we do? So I don't know if it would have
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: worked had you brought in Sean Connery or somebody.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Lee was the fanboy that actually asked to be in,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: just because he was such a huge fan of Lord
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: of the Rings. It was basically, it's like, please, Peter Jackson,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: let me be in this film. As opposed to Connery,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: who turned it down, because he's like, I don't get it.
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: Bunch of hobbits and whatnot.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: And Connery actually turned down one of Lee's other roles
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: because Connery was up for Dooku and turned it down.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: And the story goes, you know, whether it's true or not,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: you know, enough people tell it, I suppose it becomes so.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: But the legend had it that, yeah, it's like Connery
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: was offered, Gandalf turned it down because he read the script,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: didn't get it. He was offered Dooku in Attack of
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: the Clones, read the script, was like, I don't get it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: was offered the role as Quartermain in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: didn't get it, but went ahead and accepted it because
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: he was afraid that if he just kept turning stuff
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: down and admitting he didn't get it, it was going
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: to make him look stupid.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: He's not cool anymore. He's not hip. Doing cool movies like.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Is allegedly how he got the starring role in League
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: Whether that's true or not.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: But, you know.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: No, I mean, that is, yeah, I mean, even like
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: with Dooku, like that's not anyone's favorite movie, but he's
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: certainly one of the high points in it. Like he
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: does bring something to it that you didn't really expect. Again,
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: for his age at that point, you would not necessarily
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: expect him to be a badass villain, but like he
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: still could do it. Like even in the fight scenes, however,
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: they choreographed him to work for him at his age.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: He's still a badass in that movie.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: I think what helped, too, is it helped introduce Lee
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: to a new generation of film fans because in the
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: 80s and 90s, he'd sort of disappeared. I mean, he
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: was still making horror films, but it was just like
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: lousy straight-to-DVD stuff. It wasn't anything that was substantial.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: Stuff that they could slap his name on the cover,
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: and that was their selling point.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Look, we got Christopher Lee! Well, with that lousy straight-to-DVD
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: stuff is, you know... the stuff that keeps the wheels
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: turning in the industry. You know, it's 90% of what
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: is sold. Unfortunately, it's 90% of what is sold.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: It is kind of, yeah, its own undercurrent that's going
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: on while the.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Pitfalls are happening. That's how the grips continue to work
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and how the, you know, the sound people continue to work.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: They take 15 bad films for every one great film
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that they get to work on.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: I feel like they used to be at least more
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: entertaining because when I think back like those like, because
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: you didn't really have anything that, that level before vhs
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: came along you know you had independent movies but like
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: it took so much money and there was no way
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: to distribute them otherwise that like you just kind of
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: got the ones that were going to get made by
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: the studio but when you got your like straight to
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: vhs market it opened up those doors of like okay
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: now we have places to put these we can make
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: cheaper movies and i feel like those like 80s and
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: into the mid 90s are pretty damn entertaining like even
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: when they're bad i Like, there's something about them that
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: I don't ever find in the bad, current, straight-to-DVD, straight-to-streaming
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: kind of markets.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: They exist.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: They exist in this, you know, in our time, but
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: they're few and far between, unfortunately.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: But I feel like those fall more into the, because
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: now there's such a indie film category that I'm like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: I will find good indie films, but something I feel
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: like was just made to sell to that market, which
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: is what the old VHS ones were.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It was just.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: a sales pitch, you know, they would just hand it
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: out in a folder to all the video stores and
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: be like, here's the stuff coming out next year. This
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: is the only reason we made it, so you better
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: load up on them. Whereas I don't feel like a
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: lot of the stuff that comes through that's good now
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: are still like that. I don't know. It's just a
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: weird dynamic that's different in the, I guess, the market.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Well, those films, you know, the type that Lee was
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: working on during that time, I mean, they still... there
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: was still so much effort that went into making a film.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: You were still primarily shooting on film. You still had
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: unions involved. And nowadays, there's a good and bad to it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: But everybody that can afford a camera calls themselves a filmmaker.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And it's a little infuriating.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: It's a blessing and a curse.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: It's a blessing and a curse. It's like, if I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: buy a knife, it doesn't make me a chef. Depends
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: on how you spin yourself. That's right.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: So.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: So just the glut of media that's hitting the shelves
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: through these distribution companies, and I've dealt with several of them,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they know that in order to package that winner, that
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: one that keeps them afloat for the next 18 months,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: they've got to package 10 more that are going to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: be a loss. It's such a business deal. It's a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: business deal. Yeah, but, you know, in the end, I mean,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: that's the industry. That is definitely the industry, and thank
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: God for it, you know, and for those people who
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: put forth the effort to make those kinds of films.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And I was always happy to see Lee in one
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of those, you know, those B-flicks.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: He was getting work.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: He was getting work.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: Everybody around him was getting work.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: That's right. You know, there's a purpose here. Yeah. Yeah,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it was fantastic. And he knew that. He was smart.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: He knew that.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Talos the Mummy was at least a little bit of fun,
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: that one.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: That's right around 2000, 2001, I think. It was right
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: before Lord of the Rings hit. Hammer Studios stopped making stuff.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: What was it?
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Late 80s when they sort of went out until they
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: came back with Lady in Black.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: Well, while we're on the straight-to-VHS market, we have to
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: discuss Robert Zadar. I mean, do you get the visual...
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Are you picturing the look of him? Because it became
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: more interesting when I found out. This was one of
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: those I was like, the more I looked into his life,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: it's more weird and interesting. So if you don't, yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: Google him right now and get it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Working on it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Is it Robert Zadar or is it Zedar? I always
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: kind of wondered how you pronounce his name.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: I heard it Zadar, but I didn't, yeah. Actually, I
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: heard someone say that to him and he didn't correct him.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: So I guess Zadar.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Future War, Maniac Cop.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: It's all about the chin.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: All right. It's all about the chin.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: On board.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: Soul taker.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of different low-budget stuff. Interestingly enough,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and this is just, I know this is he. This
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: is definitely not the right guy. Okay.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: It's Robert and then Z apostrophe D-A-R.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: He's got cheekbones and won't quit.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: It's just a massive chin. A dude made for film
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: noir that. Really didn't get to that. A lot of sci-fi.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: He has like that Rondo Hatton element about him.
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he does.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: But yeah, interestingly enough, you know, we were talking about
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: just like anybody that has like a camera calling themselves
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: a filmmaker and all that sort of stuff. There was
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: actually some super low budget movie called Super Hell that
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: was shot by just A bunch of people having fun
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: with a camera here in Louisville that had him in it.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Because there was a period to where he was a
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Mag Bar regular. And I don't know why, if he
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: was living in town at the time or what. Because
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: it just became a thing to where, like, the employees
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: at the theater were coming in.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, I guess he was up at Mag Bar
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: last night. Robert Zdar. I'm like, what?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, it was.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a movie called Super Hell that I got from
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Walden Woolley when they were going out, which I suppose
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: we could even discuss that as being a substantial loss
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: in 2015.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Changed our town.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: When they went out, everybody was flooding in to buy
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: all these Criterion discs and stuff on the cheap. And
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I went in and just methodically bought up most of
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: their local section, because to me, all the other stuff,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: it's like, I can find that on eBay, Amazon, YouTube, whatever.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: I didn't buy much, yeah, for those reasons.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: But in the local section, it's like, I wanted copies
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: of all the stuff where people did shoot them on
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: shaky handheld camcorder, and then managed to cobble.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: It together and put it on DVD and put it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Up there for free rental, because... you know, that right there,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: that's like a little history of like the no budget
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: cinema of Louisville where it's like, that's going to be lost.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: So I ended up with like 50 some odd different
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: like movies to where you watch them. It's like, is
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: this being made for just, you know, like whatever they
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: have in their pocket at the time?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: But I love that sort of stuff. And it's, it's, it's,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: you can tell, you know, there's, there's like odd mixes of,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: you know, as I've been sort of burning through them,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Different things, because some of them, you watch them, it's like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: this is friends who obviously were shooting it just to
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: have fun, and it's mostly intended just for.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Hanging out with their friends and re-watching.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: And you watch some, and it's like, okay, this was
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: something where somebody shot it to try to enter it
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: in the 48-hour film festival. You watch this one, it's like, okay,
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: they shot it, and they were hoping for, like, you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: festivals or distribution, but it's like they got so focused
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: on that that the story is like, man, you know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: it's an interesting mix of, like, you know, nice little
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: hidden gems and stuff where it's like, You know you
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: never realized you know that it was even made in
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: town but obviously a lot of work went into it
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: and it's also fun to just burning through those and
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: just seeing hey I know that guy I'm calling might
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: be like hey guess what I'm watching sort of thing
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: it's so you know it's.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: It was cool that Todd had that, and I do
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: wonder if other towns, I mean, now I guess hardly
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: any have a video store, period, but if anybody really
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: has that way of documenting, because for me, it was
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: always sort of like a weird little time capsule. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: went back and watched Half-Cocked, and I'm like, that city
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: in the background isn't there anymore. The street that they're
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: walking up and down is not like that anymore, and
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I'm like, it's cool that we have this little window
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: into that, but it's a totally different thing now, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: that's not that old of a movie so it does
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: not take long for things to change so it's if
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: yeah if you have one of those in your town
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: go make use of it it's pretty.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Cool i don't even know if we've got anything that's
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: the equivalent of that in louisville now to where you
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: can just go in it's like here's a bunch of
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: movies that people.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Made i don't think the library does anything like that
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: no nothing like that and they.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: Should Every town kind of should have something like that.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: To me, it's just, I love just building a collection
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: of stuff that was shot locally. It's like all of
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Archie Borders' stuff. It's like everything from Father Bob to
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Reception to Follow. It's like I've got his entire collection
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: all the way up to Pleased to Meet Me. So
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: it's just, all that sort of stuff, if you don't
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: grab onto it, it just disappears.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: But there's a quality control issue with stuff like that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: People could stick their, you know, their porn on there
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and i mean you've got to have somebody that's willing
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to put the time dealing with it yeah to put
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: the time and energy into into archiving that material but
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you know if you find that that certain someone who's
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: willing to do it and can afford to do it fantastic.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: The city needs to kick a little funding towards that
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: because it's something worth doing You.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Know, I am a government official now, so I can
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: see what we can do about it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: It even goes back to, you know, just all the
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: William Girdler stuff. It's like, you know, there's so many
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: people always touting, like, different folks from Louisville that had, like,
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: you know, a little slight connection.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And everyone's like, oh, it's Hunter S. Thompson's Louisville. It's like, yeah.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: But it's like, you know, you look at Girdler, Girdler.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: Girdler shot B-movies here.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: It did shoot B-movies here. And, you know, he's best
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: known for Grizzly, which held the record for the most successful,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: financially speaking, independent film up until it was actually taken
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: away from it by Blair Witch Project.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: It held that record for, you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Know, years. Years there. That's a huge, yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, it's like, where's my William
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Girdler's Louisville banner?
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Nowhere.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: You gotta start the fundraiser, I guess.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Most people, they're like, wait, who? You know, they've just
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: never heard of it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: I want the Todd Browning one. I hear he did
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: love this town.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do a film about his life.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Always wanted to do one.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: So I loved it.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I love his titles. Robert Zadar's Maniac Cop, Samurai Cop,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Maniac Cop 2, Maniac Cop 3, Badge of Silence, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: then Soul Taker. Oh, and then Tango and Cash.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, see? He got kind of mainstream there. Again, he
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: always had to be the brute, but he's... But what
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: I thought was funny, again.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: You can't have a face like that and not be
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a brute.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I think he knew that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Look at that guy. He was a realistic guy.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he used it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: He used it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: He's like, I'm a working actor, so I know.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: But yeah, looking back in his other stuff, it's like, okay,
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: he was born in Chicago, goes to school. They're like, okay,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: so after he graduates, he returned to Chicago where he
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: was employed variously as a Chicago police officer. I don't
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: know how you just randomly get involved in that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: Maybe it was research for the Maniac Cop movies.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Also, member of the band Nova Express, and I think
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: spent a good amount of time with this band, got
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: on and started and then created his own company as
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: a commercial jingle writer and agent and huge nationwide accounts.
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: Like 7-Up was one of his. Rice Krispies was one
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: of his. And then, get this one. Okay, first I
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: want you to once again get the face, get the jaw.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Chippendales dancer.
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: I can see it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: I guess, in like early 80s.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Jaws were a big thing in the early 80s.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I guess. It's still a little disturbing. People still had
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: them back then.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: It's a little disturbing to me. But yeah, he worked
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: at Chippendales and then started his own singing telegram and
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: strippagram company. And then on the side, he managed girls
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: who were, I'm using quotes here, dancers and mud wrestlers.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: He had an interesting life, Robert.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: This is a guy who never said, i can't clearly.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: And i actually saw him at one of the conventions
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: a while back he he looked rough then and i've
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: seen interviews with him in the last few years he
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: had so many health problems and like it's funny that
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: he still like up until the end was at least
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: knocking out a movie a year even though like i
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: would hear all these like every interview he would be
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: naming another horrible thing that he was going he's like
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: well i had you know a I had, well, by
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: the end he had throat cancer. Um, he had had
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: like two metal hips from doing all his own stunts
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: put in. He like was going to get his knees replaced.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: I think he had like some sort of hernia operation.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: He had like every year they would do something and
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: like he would still be knocking out movies.
• 44:51
  Speaker 12: Like, I don't know.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: That's just, again, that's just a hardcore working actor that like, this.
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: Is what I do.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: You know, and the thing about a guy like this
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: is that he has that notoriety, you know, but, I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: can almost guarantee you that he probably died close to broke.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's a reason you keep doing those movies
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: every year.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: That's right. Because the movies, you know, I mean, I'm
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: sure he probably got a SAG scale, you know, weekly,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: you know, low-budget SAG scale, which isn't enough. You know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: it's what somebody might make in a month, you know.
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, he had a cult following, but... Again, there
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: was a reason I saw him at shows. It was
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: probably what was getting him through the year.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: He has to do that kind of stuff.
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: I guess he actually died in Pensacola at a convention
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: is what the Wikipedia just told me.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, he did a lot of them. I would
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: always kind of see him listed. I think maybe once
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: or twice. I know once I saw him at the table.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: It was just, yeah, he just looked kind of sad.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I don't watch movies like this often, but I do
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: appreciate him.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: He has not one, but two that have been great.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: MST3K treatments in that last couple of seasons. So Soul
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: Taker is a classic in its own right.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: So can you watch the Maniac Cops out of order?
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: You can.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know that I recommend it.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Start backwards. What the hell? I don't know. There's an
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: important backstory there. I think I'll start with one. It's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: all in the title.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: It's in the title.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: It's all in the title.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: He's a cop.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: He's a maniac. It's all good.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: There's someone out there. No one knows his name. No
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: one knows his face.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: But now, the most terrifying man in the city... Open
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: the door!
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: Open the door!
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: Oh, thank God, I'm here.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Carries a badge. The head was unstable, and there was
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: a deceleration injury. It was in your old hanging.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: You really think a cop did this?
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: Why not?
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: Would you automatically assume that it was a police officer
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: instead of some lunatic dressed up like a cop?
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: It's my.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: Squad.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: He'll kill again. He enjoys killing.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: He strikes without cause, without mercy.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: He may be getting information from inside the department. That
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: means he is one of us.
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: You see a cop, you cross to the other side
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: of the street.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: You're not gonna get me.
• 47:17
  Speaker 13: Everybody who wants to shoot a cop nowadays has.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Got one hell of an excuse.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: So when does my personal life any.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Of your business? Since your wife was found dead in
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: a motel room.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: You gotta be wrong.
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: You wanna see the pretty picture?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: If it is where.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: I can see them, hold on, I didn't do any
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: of this.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: When a cop turns killer, you have the right to
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: remain silent forever.
• 47:58
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  Speaker 6: to Gary Owens, the announcer from Laugh-In, the original voice
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  Speaker 6: of Space Ghost and Blue Falcon, and characters from, no joke,
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  Speaker 6: about 3,000 other cartoons. One of the most recognizable and
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  Speaker 12: So with that, I just wanted to say, rest in peace,
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• 50:49
  Speaker 4: of Dick Clark, way back in 1956, stuttering and unable
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: to pronounce the word note.
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  Speaker 2: From ancient Genesis to the modern screen, the name written in.
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  Speaker 13: Blood, Eagle!
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  Speaker 2: Eagle! The last of the prehistoric giants sees his first girl, Noah.
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  Speaker 2: Hear Iga talk, the ancient language of love used at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of time.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, I'm Richard Keel, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: See Iga.
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  Speaker 1: It's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
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  Speaker 10: Now, on with the show.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Here we are In the grays of winter Here we
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: are Just me and you Hold my.
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  Speaker 8: Hand Let's face tomorrow.
• 52:08
  Speaker 15: Tomorrow still holds out its hands to you.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about Maureen O'Hara? Okay. I absolutely love
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Maureen O'Hara.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: We're close enough to Christmas, too. Talk Miracle on 34th Street.
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: Just leave the holidays.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. I just thought she was.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: My wife's a redhead. I've always been fans of redheads.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: You can't tell them by the way. As I look
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: at Lucy. Hello, Lucy.
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: Perfect for podcasting.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: That's right. John Wayne had a quote about her, which
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I've always loved. He said, I prefer the company of men.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: but I do like Maureen O'Hara. She's one of the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: best guys I know. She was just fiery and beautiful,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and she was built for the screen.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: Interesting. Yeah, you could take that the wrong way if
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: you did not.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, if you'd only seen the man and didn't know
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: anything else about John Wayne.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Well, and her, too.
• 53:18
  Speaker 10: True.
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: Is it, you know, without following it up with that,
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: you know, she was a man's kind of woman. Otherwise
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: it could be like all other women are horrible, but
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: she's the most womanly awesome chick ever. Or no, she's
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: just kind of like a guy and she punches me sometimes.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: It's open hand slap with Maureen. She's, she is still,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: she is still very much a lady. So, anyway, I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: just wanted to give a nod to her.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Miracle on 34th Street.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I just thought she was, oh, just fantastic.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: Green was my valley.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: That's right, yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: Quiet Man, yeah.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Quiet Man was where I was first introduced. Yeah.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: Dubbed the Queen of Technicolor.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Quiet Man still holds, like, the record for the longest
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: fist fight on cinematic history.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Well, other than Family Guy.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, that leads into one of
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: our others. Well, I was going.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: To say exactly that, that, Goes to, like, probably the
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: second longest fist fight, which is over.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: A pair of sunglasses.
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: Uh-huh.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: You're going to put these on.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Talking Rowdy Roddy Piper.
• 54:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: Oh, gosh.
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: Another one I just saw, like, a year or so ago.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: And I'd had, like, I'd seen him at those before,
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: and he seemed like a crazy person. And by the end,
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: I realized, well, he is a crazy person. But he was, again,
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: that last time, he was very calm. He was actually, like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: dressed nice. He was being super cordial to everyone. Like
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: he was shaking everybody's hand. And I shook his hand
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: and said hi. And he was a very nice man
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: that day. I've also seen videos of him where he's
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: a complete maniac. So, I mean, like he does kind
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: of live up to his name.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, living up to the name maniac that he played
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: in the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
• 54:58
  Speaker 6: And rowdy.
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Because I always thought that was just the funniest
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: thing that he was doing. Sort of like a parody thing.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: More of Mickey Rourke from The Wrestler than anything else.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: But I was like, maybe he's sort of making fun of.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Just that entire generation of wrestlers.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: That came out of the 80s where it's like, not
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: much to do.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: But They Live, I think, is probably my favorite John Carpenter.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: And I realize that's a tough pick out of a
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: lot of different stuff.
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: It's further down for me, but it's cool. It's got
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: its own weird thing. Like, it almost doesn't even fit
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: with most of the Carpenter stuff.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: Which is why I kind of like it.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: Because most of the other Carpenters, it's like it, there
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: are so many of them are siege films to where
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: it's like, you know, everybody's trying to break in, whether it's,
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: you know, whether it's Halloween or Assault on Precinct 13
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: or all that. And in this case, it's, I suppose
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: it is sort of a siege, but more open.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Everyone is against it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Now it's like the entire planet is. Yeah, but it
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: still has some of those same elements. He's trying to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: get into that TV station. He's trying to take down
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: that establishment.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: It's also one of the few, now that I think
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: about it, that's not self-serious. His other stuff is usually
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: pretty deadly serious. He's got his touches of comedy, but
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: he doesn't really stray into that much. And They Live
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: kind of knows it's a little bit silly. And even
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: up until the very end, it's kind of playing with that.
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: There's some very fun scenes that do not take themselves
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: seriously at all. Like you can't write the bubble gum
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: line and have it in a serious movie.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: And then you also, I just like that, you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: early on, I mean, this was still in the eighties.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: And so the, the, um, You know, the whole push of,
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: you know, arguing it's like, you know, only 1% should have,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: you know, this amount of money versus, you.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Know, the wealth, you know, wealth distribution.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: It's like he does social commentaries on that, on advertising,
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: on just like addiction to media. All the stuff that's
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: become more prominent within our culture now to where it's
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: like he was just, he hit early with all.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: That sort of stuff.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: And it's funny seeing how much that representation... of that
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: type of thing has worked its way. Like I see
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: those posters modeled after that all the time. And granted
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: the whole Andre movement was modeled after that anyway, but
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: like since then I see it so many places directly
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: in tribute to, they live to the point where I
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: think the new generations may not even know where it
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: comes from. Only the, you know, the horror geeks do,
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: but like a lot of the other ones probably know
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: that imagery might even know the glass thing, but may
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: have forgotten what movie it's from. You know, it's one
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: of those things. I think the, The impact it had
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: lasted longer than the movie itself.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: So do you think that his casting of Roddy Piper
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: was a nod to the campiness of the film?
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: Or did it become that? Because I always felt like
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: that was written to be... Kurt Russell. Yeah, Kurt Russell.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Kurt Russell, yes.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: You threw me off when you went to go see
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Kurt Douglas.
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: I know, I went midway in and went, wait, which
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: way was I going?
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Kurt Douglas is still alive. He's not part of this podcast.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Next year when we do it.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: So is Kurt Russell. Yeah.
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: But his wife passed, so rest in peace.
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: But no, I always felt like that was, because it
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: came right off of those other ones almost in a
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: row where he worked with him several times in a row.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: He's got the, I mean, at that point, that was
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: the Kurt Russell hair. I mean, he still looks, he's
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: wearing the flannel shirt that he was wearing a movie ago.
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: Like it looks exactly like it's modeled after every other
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: Kurt Russell character that Carpenter had done. So I'm just
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: kind of like, I feel like maybe Kurt had something
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: else to do and he was like, well, who else
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: can we get? And I'm like, I mean, it wasn't
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: a bad move.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: I think that's maybe why it sticks out for me.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's, you asked me on a different day
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: and even you asked me later on in the show,
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: I might just go back to the thing, which is
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: always sort of my standby.
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: Which I suppose, if we're going to shift to that,
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: Richard Dissart passed away, who plays Copper, the doctor who
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: gets his hand bitten off. I know most people probably
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: recognize him for that, but I love him as sort
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: of a... shyster sort of studio executive in Day of
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: the Locust, an early John Schlesinger film with William Atherton
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: and Karen Black.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: And Billy Barty.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: It's this really, really fun cast, and it's sort of
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: a forgotten movie. Going back to Walden Woolley, I I
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: went in one day, and the great thing about it
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: is I just asked someone, I was like, okay, pick
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: me something that's just bizarre and out of left field.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: And he gave me Day of the Locust, which, you know, mid-70s,
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: it's a very, very weird film about an aspiring screenwriter
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: who just gets lost in the bizarre underworld of 30s Hollywood.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: That's a weird plot line.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: And Dissert plays this... William Atherton, who's best known for
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: playing the EPA agent on Ghostbusters, actually has, like, a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: very serious lead, you know, somewhat romantic role. And it's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: a film that I recommend to a lot of folks
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: just kind of checking out if they get the opportunity.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: But Dissert's a lot of fun in it. And, you know,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: he was also sort of fun, too, just, like I said,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: in the thing, just talking That's just one of those
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: great Carpenter films.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: Well, all of the characters are so good. Like, again,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: if you had it with a bunch of forgettable characters, like,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: you kind of wouldn't care who it was. But, like,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: each of those guys is so weird and memorable in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: their own way that, like, you do get attached to them,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: and then you do start to question who is what. And, like,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: I think that's why you're so invested is because they
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: got all these great character actors. And, like, if it
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: was all just forgettable, you know, B actors, like, Nobody
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: would care who the thing was, but I think that's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: why it works.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: It's like an Agatha Christie with a monster.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: With a monster hiding, waiting to strike. But yeah, the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 6: other stuff, the hospital is another one of those weird, like,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: how did this happen? George C. Scott kind of... Anything
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: he was in is kind of weird.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: But being there is another one that, yeah.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Pale Rider. So he had some good stuff. And
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: I guess L.A. Law is probably how most people knew him, but... Yeah,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: I've never seen L.A.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Law, but I know he won.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: I think a couple of awards for that.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: Emmy in 1992.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: Where do we want to go from there?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Donna Douglas. All right. Ellie May.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: I've kind of stood by that show for years as like,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: it seems like it's something it would be easy to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: write off because of the hillbilly thing and It's constantly
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: fighting the hillbilly thing anyway, being where we are. But
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: I think when I go back and watch it years later,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: because again, it was on reruns all the time, but
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: going back in recent years and watching it, it's so
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: smartly written. Those jokes are so perfectly laid out, and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: then the only way that they then work is they
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: had such a great cast. Each of those main people
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: knew exactly how to make their character work. And I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: don't know, all of them, like Buddy Hibson, his delivery
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: on lines is amazing.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Well, it's character chemistry, too. I mean, just the way
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: they worked with one another. And I've never been a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: fan of sitcoms. I really can't stand them. But there
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: are those few that I gravitate toward just because the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: chemistry of the characters. That 70s show, which I think
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: is brilliant. You know, even though you can see the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: jokes coming, just the chemistry with the characters works so
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: well that it makes it not only palatable but enjoyable.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: You know, and I thought the same of Beverly Hillbillies.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I always thought that they worked so well together. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: there was no, you know, Buddy Epson, you could argue
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: that he was the star. But I don't think there
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: was a star of that show. I thought they all.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: shared in that spotlight.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: And you mentioned, you know, people laughing at, um, country stereotypes.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: They have just as many city, city stereotypes too.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. I feel like that's what made it
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: so exciting.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: LA.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: I feel like that was the joke of it was
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: like everybody else.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Lucy's not afraid of you anymore.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: Everybody else in the cast would be making fun of
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: them because of the hillbillies that they were. And at
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: the end of almost every episode, they're like, yeah, but
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: their simple way of life has proven right. Um, And like,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: they've come out ahead or they figured things out because
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: they did it, you know, a real way. Whereas everybody
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: in their fake LA world just was oblivious to what
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: was going on.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: So it's like, it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: Always came back to like their way was right because
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: it was a true, simple world that they were from.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: And they just brought that with them to Beverly Hills.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: I think that's why that dynamic always worked in that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: weird setting. It was that run of, again, we had,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: three of them there. We had your Green Acres, and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: the other one, we have another, Petticoat Junction. We lost
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: one of the girls from Petticoat Junction there, too.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Well, she had an interesting career. She was on Twilight Zone.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: And she did, what was it? She did, what was
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the film? Frankie and Johnny. Yeah, with Elvis. That's back
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: on Ellie Mae.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: But yeah, she still, again, everybody kind of found their
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: other version of it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: And then she was a singer, too. She recorded a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: couple of albums.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: Everybody got to make albums.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Now they're all just rapping.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: Rapping Granny, that's what we needed.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 6: That's what we needed.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: I'll throw back to Christopher Lee. He didn't resort to rapping.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: He still stuck to heavy metal all the way to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the end.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: And if anybody can pull off heavy metal.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: It's... His Christmas album is unparalleled, though, if you've never
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: heard that. Next on the Amazon list, Christopher Lee Christmas album. Oh,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I'm getting it.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: You mentioned sitcoms, so I'm going to jump into one
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: to where I first became acquainted with this character actor
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: through sitcoms. And you saw him in a lot of films, too.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: It was Daniel Von Bargen. And that's one to where
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: I thought that was just a very, very... sad sort.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Of end that he had. Because, I mean, he was.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: It's really sad once you get into it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because he had a prominent role in Malcolm in
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: the Middle. Like, that's where I first got into seeing him.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: And Seinfeld, too. He was hilarious in Seinfeld. Because he's so...
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: He has such a dry sense of humor.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: And, like, if ever there's a character... Like, again, in
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: that show about nothing, with a bunch of characters that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: are hardened, completely callous people, he... Came along as somebody
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: who just did not care.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: About anything. Like, whatever stupid thing they did, he would
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: just shrug it off.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: He would just be like, whatever.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: Like, it was so entertaining in the middle of the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: rest of that insanity. Yeah, he was just, he's so
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: much fun.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: And I think he's a lot of fun in Oh Brother,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Where Art Thou?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: Too.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: He's playing the blind sheriff that's tracking them throughout most
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: of the film. But even that, like, whatever, I mean,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: he brought that to the faculty because I remember just.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: The Faculty was one of those movies where if I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: could go back in time to my high school self,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: because my high school self, by the time that came out,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: I was starting to get into Kubrick and all this
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: other stuff, and I was just like poo-pooing anything that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: came out of Dimension Films. And it's like, no, go
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: back and watch it. It's a really fucking clever movie.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: And there's an early scene to where an elderly teacher
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: is just, she's babbling on about something, and he almost
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: looks to a camera and is just like, we say
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: retirement it's just he was so dry in all of
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: his humor i just loved it but um and.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: He had a lot like he is one of those
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: guys that you before you knew him from the other
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: things towards the end there you just saw him so
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: many times so yeah he's yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: But he was one day you know to get into
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: like the morbidity of it all he i think it
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: started he contracted he had diabetes lost i think he
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: lost Toes or foot?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: I think just toes on one.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: And then they were looking at amputating his entire other foot.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: And he attempted suicide up in Cincinnati, Ohio. And did
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: not succeed at it. It blinded him.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: And I'm pretty sure the phone call was on the internet.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: It's just 911.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: So that was one.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: And it's disturbing to hear it.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't even listen to it. I was just like,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: I don't think I knew that's what it was. I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: was just kind of like, wait, what? And then I'm
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: midway in going, oh shit, this is him on the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: phone bleeding.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: Like, this is disturbing. Yeah, and then I think he
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: just basically lived in a rehabilitation center for, it's been
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: about two years since that happened. Two, three years. And
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: then just finally passed away this year. I think it
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: was a stroke, I think. Yeah. You know, very sad
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: end to somebody who was just incredibly funny.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Keeping with our Kentucky hillbilly theme, James Best.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 8: Indeed.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Roscoe P. Coltrane. I'm sorry, Sheriff. Roscoe P. Coltrane.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: Again, one we ran into recently.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a year and a half.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Or so ago.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: When they did the Dukes of Hazzard reunion... And it
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: was kind of the most of them that have been together,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: I think, in years. And he was there. And that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: was one of those, like, of all the, again, we've
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: seen John Schneider a million times now because somebody on
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: the show is obsessed with him. And we'd seen Tom
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: Wopat at one of those, I think. But, like, that was,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: of the whole cast getting together, I'm like, I want
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: to see James. I mean, he's getting up there, you know?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: I was you kind of have to start thinking that.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, I don't know that he's going to
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: do these anymore. Even if he's around, he's not going
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: to want to travel to him. So it's like that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 6: was the line I waited in. I was like that
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: guy I want to talk to and like got up
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: there and he was really nice. And his wife was
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: kind of running the table and and she was super
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 6: nice to talk to. And he was just. He was
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: a good guy. And he had pictures of him and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: the dog. And I thought that was really funny.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 7: Like his dog?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 6: No, the dog and the dog wearing like a helmet
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 6: or something. It was just too damn funny.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: What was the dog's name?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: What was the dog's name? It's on the tip of
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: my tongue. He said it all the time.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: Oh.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: I know.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: To the Google machine.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 7: In the meantime, I will talk about my favorite aspect
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: of James Best, which is that he seemed to live
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: a parallel existence to one Mr. Harry Dean Stanton. They
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: were both born in Kentucky. You like that guy? In
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: July of 1926, James Best was like 12 days younger
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: than Harry, I think. And then we're both World War
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: II vets, and then both went out to Los Angeles
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: and toiled away in TV forever. Both did Andy Griffith episodes.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: Both did all the Westerns. Obviously, Harry's going to live forever,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 7: so that's the only difference. But yeah, two Kentucky boys
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 7: make good.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 5: I think that's the appeal of so many of the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: character actors. you know, from, like, the 30s on up
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: to those that are still kind of around is I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: feel like when you really, like, hit upon a very
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: distinct character actor in the way of, like, a unique look,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: a unique way of behavior, they have, like, they lived.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: They lived before they got into acting. It's like they
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: might have even retired from a job and then.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: Got into acting later on.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: They might have been a cop and then a Chippendale dancer.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: But it's... you know, that's what I used to do.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: You know, so many of like the bit players that
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: you'll see, it's like they have, they don't really have
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: that memorable of a screen presence. And it's, you kind
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: of like look them up. It's like, well, it just
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: sort of went out to LA and, you know, did
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: theater stuff. It's like, I feel like when you have
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: a lot of these individuals actually live a life, you
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: can see that in them when they're on screen, they
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: feel more real, more genuine. It's just, it's that instant
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: sort of appeal to, you know, the, Harry Dean Stanton's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: or M. Emmett Walsh's or R.G. Armstrong's or any of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: those good players that pop up time and again.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I know that guy. Okay, so trivia question.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 7: I already know the answer.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: A superhero has the same name as Roscoe's dog in
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Dukes of Hazzard. What was the dog's name? There's a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: superhero with the same name.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 8: Superhero.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Flash. Flash. Oh, there it is.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: Bingo.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: There it is.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: It makes sense for that type of dog.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say the James.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: So I said it first and I haven't even seen
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: Well, I was going to say with him, like, and he.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: It was a huge line so it was one of
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: those had i had a chance i would love to
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: talk to him in general but specifically anybody who's got
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: a weird drive-in tie-in i really wanted to talk about the.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: Killer shrews i like the killer shrews crazy movie killer
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: shrews is one of those movies to where i fell
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: in love with it way before mystery science theater um
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: it was it was like some vhs pack that i
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: got of like It and Brain That Wouldn't Die and
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: Giant Gila Monster. And I love those VHS tapes. And
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: that was one to where it actually kind of creeped
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: me out as a kid because of these like. You know,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: all it is now, you watch as an adult, it's silly.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: They just got dogs and, like, put.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Draped a thing over.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: And, like, cheap rugs on them, and, like, they're wearing
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: paper mache heads to where they're almost, like, clattering around. Like,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: these dogs can't even see what they're trying to do.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: But as a kid, they're spooky.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: And they come out at.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: It's something weird about the way they move, yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: And they come out only in the dark, and it
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter, like, if it just nicks you with its teeth.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: They had, like, the venom in the door. It would
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: just kill you, you know?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 9: So it just.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: I have a soft spot for Killer Shrews myself.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 6: That's why I was really sad when he passed. I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: was like, had I the chance, I would have loved
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: to just sit down and talk about putting rugs on
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: dogs or whatever, whatever things they did on that set.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to hear more about that. So that's
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: always sad.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 7: When you talked about Trivia Mike, I thought you were
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 7: going to bring up the Everly Brothers connection, which is
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: that James Best was their first cousin.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah. His mom and the Everly's father, brother, sister. And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: a bit of trivia that I only learned when James
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: Best passed away, his birth name was actually Jewel, like
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 7: the folk singer.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: No kidding. Yeah.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Jewel.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Who I interviewed a couple years ago. Yeah, for a magazine. Yeah.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 7: I guess he got adopted, and then I don't know
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: if they were just like, yeah, that's not going to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 7: be your name anymore. That ain't going to fly around here.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: Or if he changed it when he went into the Army.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: There's so many moments that would have been appropriate to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: change your name away from Jewel.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: Jewel.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Jewel Jules Franklin. I can't remember what his last
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: name was. It wasn't best by birth, but yeah.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: That is an odd.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I interviewed Jewel, who acted with John Doe in... What
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: was it? The biopic for Lifetime. Oh, whose biopic?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: I don't know what's.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Happening right now.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Why am I drawing a blank?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 7: I don't know, but I'm on the edge of my seat.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: It was a country singer. It was... The devil rides.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: The Jules character was the center of the biopic?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: Yes.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Who would we cast? Oh, gosh. Why am I drawing
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a blank? I have to go to the IMDb machine. Well, anyway.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: And then John Doe isn't pleased to meet me.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: And then John Doe, Harry Dean, Stan Slamdick.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: You might be pleased to meet me on iTunes for,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: I think, 99 cents. I think we're down to the
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: 99 cents.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: Stock up, people.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Go DVD.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: In a way of character actors, I'm going to branch
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: off of that. One of my favorite character actors passed
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: this year, Robert Loja.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, Robert Loja.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: Because that man was not above just chewing the scenery
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: to pieces. Stop eating that chair, Robert. I just even
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: cracked up. After he passed away, it became that resurgence
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: of everyone like, holy crap, he did an orange juice
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: commercial where he's making fun of himself.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, yes, he is.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: His most important role, really. I'm so grateful for the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: existence of YouTube, because for years I told people about
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: that commercial, and nobody believed that it existed, because it's
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: just so unfathomable. It doesn't make sense.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: It kind of does.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Well, the fact that the kids are like, Robert Loshitz, like,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: what kid?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 7: He won't drink his orange juice. For people who haven't
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: seen it, he won't drink his orange juice. He does
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: not believe that it has calcium in it. His parents say,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: who would you believe? He says, I don't know, Robert Loshitz?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 7: And then there's a saxophone solo, and in the door
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: walks Robert Loggia, and he goes, Mr.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: Loggia!
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: It's incredible.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Drink that orange juice, kid.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 7: And he does, and it's great, and everyone wins.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Ring of Fire, June Carter Cash. That's who she is.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: Oh, interesting.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: And again, I don't give Family Guy credit for much,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: but every time I think of him spelling Robert Loggia,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 6: R as in Robert Loggia. Oh, is it, oh, you're
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: Robert Lush? Oh, you're Robert Lush? Like, sound isn't that impressive,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: but every once in a while he.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: Comes up with some good stuff.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: There's not a single time to where I've looked in
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: my rearview mirror and seen somebody tailgating me and didn't
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: think of the whole lost highway scene to where he
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: runs the fellow off the road in each direction.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: Like, it's almost out of character in that movie, but
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: it's so damn funny, you don't care. Like, it almost, like, doesn't...
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: You can take that out, and it wouldn't affect the movie,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: but it's so damn funny.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I love about Lynch villains, is he's
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: so good at creating characters to where it's like, I
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: don't know if I should be terrified of this individual
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: or laugh. Because Frank Booth's like that in Mulholland Drive.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: The cowboy's like that.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Like, there's always one of those in each one of
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: his films, and Loggia definitely is... Durant, that's the character's name.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: As Mr.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: Durant, he definitely foots that bill because at first he's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: just very, very charming. I think that's the moment where
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: Lynch wanted to show you how scary this individual could be,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: just how unstable he is. And the fact that he
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: would just run somebody off of the road.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: For no reason. For real, a minor reason.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody's wanted to do that, but just the fact
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: that this is a character where it's like, he's so
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: damned powerful and threatening, it's like he just knows that
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: this guy's going to be too scared to even go
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: to the cops about the incident.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: But pretty much anything that Logia popped up in, I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: just love.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: Innocent blood?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Or independent skin. He makes independent skin.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: But yeah, the orange juice commercial is the first thing
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: that just springs to mind.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: So grateful.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: Thank you, YouTube.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: Thank you, YouTube.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was actually writing a part for Robert Loja.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 13: Were you?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: It's never going to happen now.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: We missed these opportunities.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: I hate that.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: He probably would have done it. I mean, he was in...
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: Tim and Eric's awesome movie or million-dollar movie.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: That's your go-to at this point. Has he done Tim?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: All right, well, fine.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: If somebody's done Tim and Eric, that tells you. It
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: probably tells you that Jeff Goldblum is fairly accessible.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: That was my question to Michael Gross. How did you
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: end up in Tim and Eric's stuff? And he was
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: just like, my kid knew about it. They thought it
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: was funny. It's a weird entry point for them. They're
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: just like, somebody told me to do it.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: Just get Robert Wise then instead. God, he popped up
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: in enough Tim and Eric's as well at this point.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: So if we're going to go off David Lynch, are
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 7: you going there?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: Catherine Coulson. And where do we even start there?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've been trying to figure out what this
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: woman's history is in the world and with Lynch since
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: the first time I saw her holding the log. It
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: was just like, who the hell is that? And everything
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: more I hear about her, I'm like, oh, that's just weirder. Like,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: I thought you couldn't get weirder than starting as the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: log lady, but every day I'm just like, so I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: don't know. What stories do you have?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's all crazy.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if it's apocryphal or not, but
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 7: I guess that the log lady character was actually born
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 7: during the making of Eraserhead. Is that true? So on Eraserhead,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: she was a camera, because she was married to, oh
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: my God, what's wrong with my brain right now? Jack Nance.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 7: In the 70s. And then not married at.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: The time of the movie. There's a crazy person's decision
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: right there. Jack Nance. I love the man, but he
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: was so crazy.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 7: And then, so she was a camera person on Eraserhead,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 7: but also did, I guess, well, before that, I guess
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 7: the first thing she acted in was a short film
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: that David Lynch did.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: Did she date David Lynch first?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 7: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: Because I thought, I'd heard, again, of all the weird rumors. Like,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: I heard at one point they were together, and then
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: later I heard that she and Jack Nance were together.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: So I was just like, what's going on in this
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: weird little circle of friends? Interesting.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, that's, you know, that's how it goes.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: That's how it goes. That is how it goes.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so I guess she was the camera person on
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: Eraserhead and then AD on Eraserhead. And then at some
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: point during filming, they were like, what if there was
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: just a lady who carried a log? And then that
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 7: idea had to sort of incubate for decades.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: For years and years.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: And then there it was.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: Where the hell is she in Wrath of Khan?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 7: Is she in Wrath of Khan?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: I had not noticed that before. It listed her as Eraserhead,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: Firewalk With Me.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: And Star Trek, too. But that doesn't mean she was
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: in it.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: She could have been a camera person. Is that actual acting?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: It says she appeared in it.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: Then I don't know.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: I'm like, damn.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, no.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 6: There's never a bad excuse.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: To watch Ravikon. Is she part of Khan's crew?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: There's a couple.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: Because there's a lot of, yeah, weird characters there.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: She's the amputee.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: In the amputee.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: Well, that sounds about right.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: In the amputee.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: And I had never seen that. And now that I
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 7: know that that exists, it makes me feel like boxing
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 7: Helena is, like, just.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: Wow. A rip-off.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 7: A rip-off of her dad's work.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: It's okay if they're family, though.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you're allowed to do that. It's like I'm reimagining
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 7: my dad's short film.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: It's too bad my family hasn't done anything.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: Well, that just means your kids are going to rip off. Yeah,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: there you go. That's how that goes.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: God, I hope not.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: But I guess she did camera work for Cass.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: You want more for them? I do want more for them.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: I guess she did camera work for Cassavetes, too. I mean,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: she was just kind of popping in and out of
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: all the cool groups.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: Again, those weird little circles. That's so weird. And I
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: guess seems fitting, really. The more you think about it,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, that's what was going on at
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: the time. These weird people making their weird movies.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Portlandia.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: She's in Portlandia.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 7: Playing the log lady, essentially.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: She got typecast after that. Hard to work the log
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: lady into other things, but damned if they're going to try.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: I keep hitting people I've met. Gunnar Hansen.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: He's a pretty cool guy. It was right before we
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: started the show, so I didn't get to talk to him.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Look at me, all the dead people I know.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 6: That's not a good thing to brag about.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 10: I know.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: I feel like it might be dangerous to meet you.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: That was a long time ago. That was pre-show, and
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: I've been doing this show for 47 years, so it's
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: a long time.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but you could go to a retirement home, and
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: you're going to find anybody that knows more dead people
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: than Brian.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, see?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: It's not my fault.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: He's just old.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: But that's just me and Gunnar. But, yeah, it is
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: another one of those, like, that movie at that time
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: kind of thing. Like, had Gunner wanted to do stuff
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: before that, who knows? But, like, the fact that he
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: ended up in the right place at the right time
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: for this movie that, once again, was one of those
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: turning points in horror that, like... It had to change
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: his life, and it sure as hell changed horror movies
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: after that.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: Well, what else did he do that, you know, was
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 5: a fairly prominent role that folks are knowing for other than, like,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: wearing a mask?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 6: See, again, later that became his thing. He became a go-to,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: you know, everybody in the little horror scene, like, you
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: just kind of bounce from one project to another. And, again,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 6: if you're the masked character, it's easy to get jobs
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: as other masked characters, it feels like, as time goes on.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: I suppose, I mean, I shouldn't knock that out because,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: you know, look at Doug Jones. Doug Jones essentially is made...
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: a career out of plain.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: He's finally breaking out he appears as himself sometimes.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: Occasionally like um i don't know what was it um
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: john dice at the end you know he appears briefly
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: in that so you get to see him every now
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: and then.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: In his cool lifetime movie that he was here shooting
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: thanks to the wonderful louisville film commission of.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Which i am a commissioner I think that was the
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: first one when they did the weird tax thing.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: That was the first thing that signed the law.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Weird tax thing?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the fantastic tax thing.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting anything from it. The fantastic, amazing... As
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: soon as they.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 6: Start kicking stuff my way, it'll be amazing. So far,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: I haven't seen a pin.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Well, we rival states like Georgia now.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: I've heard they're the most competitive in the nation. Is
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: that true, Mike Fitzsimmons?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: That is true. Yes, it is true.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: What, do you work for them?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: I'm just excited about it. I'm really legitimately excited about it.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Did you know that last year... let's see here, last year,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: the incentives were passed in May, June, no, April. And
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: since that time, I think there's been, just in 2015,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: from April through December, about $ 9 million worth of film
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: work came through the state. Not monumental. But if you
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: look at the fact that that that trumps what we've
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: done in the past four years prior to that, you know,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: that we've actually, that says something. So, so the word
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: is getting out. People are starting to talk about, um,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: what Kentucky has to offer. And I think it's a
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: great time for us. We're going to see as long
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: as Bevan leaves it alone and allows it to, which
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I think he will. I think he sees, you know,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: he's about jobs. I don't know much about the guy,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: but I do know that he's about jobs. bringing jobs
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: to the state. If you can't see that these incentives
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: bring jobs to people that live here and attract technicians
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: to come into the state and potentially stay here, then
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: you're just not looking in the right places. So I
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: think that anybody with half a brain can see that
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: these incentives are going to be a good thing as
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: long as we give them time to germinate and work.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Pretty soon we're going to have a studio. That's what
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I think. We have to. I'm all in for that.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: If we're going to make this thing work, that's what
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: we need.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but, you know, once again, Gunner did, you know,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: he did all these films that were, they're the things
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: that keep people working. You know, that keep the industry alive.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Brutal Massacre.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: A comedy.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: Harpoon. Chainsaw Sally. Swarm of the Snakehead. So, you know, Oh, Replicator.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: There's a girl on the front cover in a bikini
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: with an alligator head. Sold. Why haven't I seen this?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: They work for alligator people.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: Should we talk about our fallen canine heroes?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: Yes, I had one in particular, but what's... Uggie!
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 7: I assume that's yours as well.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: That was the one I came across. Did you have
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: more than one?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, well then tell us about Uggie.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, I knew nothing about Uggie until today.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: I do like that he ended up on the list, though.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 6: He was on several lists. I'm like, that's cool. He
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: was an actor, he should be.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: Well, he's a Palm Dog winner, so why wouldn't he be? Also,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 7: not a thing I knew existed, but apparently.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 6: I was just going to say, how many others have
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: there been?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 7: Apparently, I assume it's a yearly part of Cannes, maybe not.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 6: Prince, they're weird.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: Apparently, he was... And this is strange to me, but
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 7: the first... And shocking, actually, the first dog to have
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 7: his paw prints at Grauman's Chinese Theater. He would not
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 7: have been my choice.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: Not Rin Tin.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 8: Tin, or.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 7: Lassie?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Lassie?
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, so many.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, he.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: Killed a dude in the Painted Hills.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Eddie, come on.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: You'd think that would get you right up there.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: Well, it's not so much he killed a man in
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: Painted Hills. He let a man die.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but he.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 7: Lured a man to his death.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: You can see he knew it. He wasn't like an accident.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: He saw it happen and went, oh, I'm going to
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: make this work.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like did George W. Bush kill anybody? No. Did
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 7: he kill people?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: It says here he was put to sleep.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Sometimes that's the humane thing to do. He battled cancer.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Prostate cancer. I'm sure there are other people.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: On our list who would have loved to.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Have had that option. Are you talking about gunner hands?
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: A lot of people on our list battled cancer, so it's, yeah,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 6: let's get rid of this cancer thing.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, there he is wearing a bow tie.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: That's him in a tux.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: God, that's precious.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: From the artist, by the way. I guess we didn't specify.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 7: Yes, from the artist. Which is funny, because I'd forgotten
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: that the artist existed as a film. It was so
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: delightful and charming and so much fun at the time,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: and now it's just completely forgotten.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: His artist work earned him several accolades, including the Golden
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: Collar Award and the Palm Dog Award at Cannes. He
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: also famously nipped at Harvey Levin during a visit to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: TMZ Live.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: Take that, TMZ.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Nice job, Huggy.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: So start in Water for Elephants. Your favorite film.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 7: My favorite film starring my favorite actress.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: Favorite film. You love beating elephants. For no good reason. Wait,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: how did you write that? That is one of our
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: favorite phrases. Do you remember how you wrote it? that?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to try to quote myself.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: Go back and find it. Her wrap up of Water
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: for Elephants was pretty awesome.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: I think I was on that episode. I can't remember now.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 7: It's like long periods of tedium interrupted by acts of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 7: animal cruelty or something along.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: Those lines i don't know you're paraphrasing yourself but that
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 6: is pretty damn close.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: Which is probably the best way to describe that film
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: because it's feel.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: Free to put that on the worst.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 6: On the dvd box credit that to lucy movie meltdown because.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 7: I said it better than that i don't.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 6: Remember yeah when when we go to print you know
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: we'll we'll get the actual quote.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah because i was in a i was I was incensed.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: At the time. I really was.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 7: I don't even... I like blacked out afterward.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 6: That always happens when some character is involved.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: Don't you know who she is? I like her more
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 7: now that I know that she really is a monster.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 6: Don't you know who she is?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: It's not the idea that she could be a monster.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: The fact that she is, I find appealing.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: So, I think you wanted to bring up Hollywood Laws?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 8: I did.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: I mean, just because I think that she deserves to
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 7: be brought up. And I'm embarrassed to say that I
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: actually have seen none of the Warhol films in which
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 7: she appeared.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: He's a strange character, that Andy. I don't know if
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: anybody's aware of that. He's a little weird.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: That guy.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 7: But I guess she had inspired the first verse of
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: the Lou Reed Walk on the Wild Side song and
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: In recent years, I guess she was on Transparent playing herself,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: and so she was a pioneer and deserves to be noted. Although, sadly,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 7: I'm afraid I don't really know a lot of her work.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: Again, I think that's an undertaking watching any of the
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: older Warhol films. You just have to prepare yourself going
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: in for those.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: That's the way I feel about Lynch.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 9: That's true, too.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: Or Kenneth Anger, any of their early stuff. Except for
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Blue Velvet. I thought that Blue Mountain was an exceptional film.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: Well, but it's like, I've said that before, it's the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: jump-the-shark moment. It's where he becomes most mainstream and palatable,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: yet never really backs away from his weirdness. It somehow
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: finds this gel in the middle, and then everything before
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: that's super weird, and he gets extra weird as he
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: gets older, but that's the peak in the middle of
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 6: everything comes together.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: I think he got lazy- as he got older.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: Because, you know, I know people will sit there and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: they'll try and dissect, you know, like, Mulholland Drive left
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: and right.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: It's like, no.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 7: I really thought that one was straightforward.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: No, it's... I would agree with you on that one.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I do.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: I do agree with you.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: But Inland Empire, no fucking way.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 5: Inland Empire is nonsense. And even, like, Mulholland Drive, it's...
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: The first two-thirds of it is pretty solid.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: It's like he slapped together a couple of episodes of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: what's going to be for another pilot series. And it's like,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: all right, well, let me just tack on nonsense ending
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: and you know then he gets nominated for best director
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: i'm like are you kidding me no.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: We've gone into that last part of his career before
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: but really having come across eraser head on recently i'm
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: just like you can come up with themes and stuff
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: but how specific are you going to pinpoint what's going
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: on there i'm like there's a lot of nonsense there
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: too that you're just like He's an artsy fellow back
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: in the day, wasn't he? Oh wait, he's also doing
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 6: that now. He's just weird in slightly different ways.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: But there's like a consistency to Eraserhead that's not present
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: in Mulholland.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's amazing, but do with it what you
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: will because it's a strange, strange film.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 7: Maybe we need to have a Mulholland Drive episode with
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: spoilers that people.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: I think we've mentioned that before.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: Block out some time to make that happen.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, when I first watched it in the theaters,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: you know, the credits came up.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, fuck you, Lynch.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: And I gave it like 10 years. I gave it
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: 10 years. And I re-watched it. I'm like, there's so much.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: If anything, I was just like so embittered re-watching it because,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: you know, everybody kept raving. It kept popping up on
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: like all these, you know, tastes of cinema top list.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: And all my friends were like, oh, I love, that's
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: my favorite Lynch.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: And I go back and I watch it.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 5: I'm like, There's so much good to this, but God,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: that fourth act, it's just, it's him being lazy.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. It's just
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: he's being lazy. Weird lazy.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, weird. Well, I mean, that's the whole thing is
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 5: he realizes.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: He knows he can play that card.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: He knows exactly. And I think basically the final act
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: of it is then later on he's like, Oh, if
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: they ate that up, I'm going to stretch that into
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: four hours.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Here's linen.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: He knows what he can get away with now.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: I can't help but see that as anything but pretentious. Oh,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite lynch. You know, it's like vegans.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: Oh, I love beets.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 7: No, you don't.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody loves beets. Beets are the bastard child of the
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: vegetable world. They don't.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: And I pass the baton to Lucy.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 7: I have developed a taste for beets lately.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Oh my lord, get out of there.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: That's so pretentious. While watching her favorite lunch. She eats
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: a big bowl of beets.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Do you eat beets while watching Lost Highway? Taylor Negron?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 7: Here's a weird thing about Taylor Negron. I developed a
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 7: false memory about him.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Do tell.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: That's interesting.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: Well, I had this memory that he was on Anything
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 7: But Love, but I guess he was just on one episode,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: and that one episode defined the entire series for me,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 7: which was a series that I loved, if anybody remembers it.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I do remember it.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 7: Jamie Lee Curtis.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: It was better stuff for both of them. It was
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: more acting than you'd ever seen Richard Lewis do, and
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: it was kind of.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: Again, I was getting kind of sick of Jamie Lee
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: Curtis at that point because she got really full of
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: herself in most of her movie roles. And then that
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: was kind of a normal role for her. So it
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: was kind of better work than they both were doing.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 7: And Magnusson was on it, which is amazing. Like that
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 7: was kind of her big breakout mainstream. I'm in your
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 7: living room every week. I'm at Magnusson Momo, which is bizarre.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 7: But yeah, I don't know why he defined that series
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: for me. And I guess I need to go back
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: and rewatch that one episode because clearly it was very
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 7: important to me.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: Well, my go-to in another fun sitcom, and it says
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: a lot about me, I immediately thought, wasn't he on
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: So Little Time? I did have to look up the
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: title because I totally forgot that. That was the, in
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: my opinion, the best of the Olsen twins series. I
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: was so.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 7: Afraid you were going to say the Olsen twins series.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: They had at least three that I know of.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: God, that's so pretentious.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's my favorite, Olsen.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I just love the Olsen twins.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: Their early work.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: No, their mid-work. Their early work is crap.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: The prepubescent era for the Olsen twins was really magical.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: It's a time capsule.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 7: I will say, when I moved out to Los Angeles
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 7: and I was doing every odd job imaginable, I went
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 7: through a little period as an audience member and extra.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: And I was an extra on an Olsen twins movie.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 7: And it was one of the loveliest, most nurturing, like.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: Which one?
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: Film environments. I don't know which one. If you told
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 7: me the name, I would maybe remember.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: New York Minute got the biggest open.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 7: There was an airplane scene.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think what the other ones were. I
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: was on the airplane.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: Were they traveling alone under the care of a watchful stewardess? Potentially?
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: Potentially, yes.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: Potentially?
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 7: There was an airplane and an airport involved.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: And were their parents divorced? Or considering divorce.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: I can't help you with that.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: Because you just described every, I've just described every Olsen.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: Every parent crap knockoff they did. I'll go back to
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 7: my journal and see.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make the note that I'm sitting here
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: quietly because I've never seen any Olsen twin movies. And
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: I don't feel ashamed about that. I've never seen one.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: But I'm just actually quietly struggling to think, can I
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: think of any like vomit stories to where we maybe
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: had a movie with the Olsen twins?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: If we keep talking about the Olsen twins, I'll give
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: you a bomb at starting.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: Go back to Taylor, which is actually what started it.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: Quick question, Brian, before we depart. How many of their
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 7: movies have you seen?
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: See, there weren't that many theatrical. I'm not good on
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 6: the straight-to-video stuff. That's just hacky. He's dodging the question.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: I think they only had two.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Or three that went to theatrical run.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 6: Truthfully, neither of those are my favorite Olsen at this point,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: so I can't. It's not like I'm creepily into them.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: The youngest one is the coolest one by far. So
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: take that Olsen twins.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 9: Truth.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: She's an amazing actress. You went in with your guard
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: up going, man, I want to hate this kid. Damn,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 6: she's a good actress. So you just wait till the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: third one comes around. That's my advice to everybody. Wait
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: for the third Olsen.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: I actually have seen bits and pieces of Olsen twin films.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: You know, having children.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, it was what all of those were.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: They're just on.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: How many children do you have, Brian?
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: You don't need to know. anyway um punchline was my
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: go-to for taylor like for years that was the one
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: i was like because every time i would see him
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: i was like isn't he that guy in punchline that's
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: doing that material which is the movie all stand-up comics
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 6: hate but because it's so wrong but it's one of
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: those like that was very defining i feel like again
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: maybe it was just my take on it but i
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: feel like That's probably how he got recognized for years
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 6: after that. Still not what most people, like anytime you
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 6: read about him, the go-to is Fast Times, which is
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: still pretty iconic.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 7: Which is amazing because he had how long of screen time?
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 7: Like maybe 45 seconds?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: 45 seconds, yeah. Or, well, Easy Money, though, where he really,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was a major player. in Easy Money.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: He did a ton of stuff. Looking at it, like,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: the 80s, like, he, again, I think they were all
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: those two-minute parts, but, like, he was one of those.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: He was the working actor that was much like yourself,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 6: doing whatever he had to do in L.A., and he
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: was just, He pops up in so many things in
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: tiny little roles.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: But he kills it every time.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: He does.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: He's memorable.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: That's why we come back to this.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess he did a lot of dating game episodes,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 7: which I would love to see. That's amazing.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: I was hoping you were going to say you ended
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: up on one of them.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 8: Oh, if only.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: If that had been that era, I very much would have.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Do you like beets? Yes, I do, Taylor.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: Oh, wait. I'm not supposed to say you. I don't
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: know who you are.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 7: Never mind.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 5: Bachelor number two. If you could take me on an
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: ideal date, where would you take me? The circus.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: Oh, David Lynch Film Festival.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Back to Bachelor number two. Then we'd sit quietly on
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: the beach at the end of the night and watch
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: the stars. Oh, wait.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 6: All right. Have we moved on from Taylor? Do we
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: just want to run down the list? There's so many others.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 7: There's a lot.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: There's so many others.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Just name them off.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's even necessarily it's that there are
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: that many more actors passing away. It's just with the
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: prevalence of social media, anytime like some very minor name
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: to where it's like, you know, like everybody's getting, you know,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: posting about, I can't even think of his name.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Lemmy?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 6: Well, not Lemmy, but Lemmy was huge.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 7: Oh my God, how did we not get to Lemmy?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: Well, no, I had him on the list.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: But the voice of Boba Fett, it's like, it's like,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: You didn't, I didn't. I'm a Star Wars fan. I
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: didn't even know. It's like, I could tell you Jeremy
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: Bullock played the character in the costume. It was like
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: the voice.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 6: As I passed that on, I was like, it's funny
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 6: because that's the headline because everything right now is.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Star Wars, Star Wars.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: But I'm like looking at the list, I'm like, oh,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 6: he did this, he did that. He really did have
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: an interesting career. But the headline says, Voice of Boba Fett.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, that kind of sucks for him that
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 6: that's what he's now known as, where he has four lines,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: you know? I'm like, he did all these other movies
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: over the years, but he's the voice of Boba Fett, so.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: But I think it's just anytime someone passes on, it's
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: become more commonplace.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: We note minor, again, like years ago, would anybody have
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: noted that Betsy Palmer, just the horror geeks, you know?
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 6: So the fact that we pass that on and went,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: you know, she's the reason we have Jason now. It's all,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 6: you know, the original mom that sort of psycho that
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: makes you want to kill people. So I still think
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: that's funny though. The go-to for that series is Jason, Jason, Jason.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: If we're going by the original movie, spoiler alert.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: He's not the killer.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: So I thought that was interesting. And Betsy, I don't know,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: she kind of found that little niche and went around
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: and did a lot of touring on it and everybody
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: kind of loved her. I have not heard anything but
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 6: good stories. Again, she was one that hit those convention
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 6: circles and everybody seemed to have really good stories about her.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: So that was cool.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 7: Louise Jordan, who I love in Gigi. Gigi is one
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 7: of my favorite films of all time. Um, if you
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 7: haven't seen Gigi, go watch Gigi, but he sings one
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 7: of my favorite songs, which is I'm bored, which was
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 7: my theme song for a minute, but now I'm never bored.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 7: Now I'm never bored. It's impossible. You can't bore me.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, give me 20.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 7: Or it's a bore.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 6: It's a bore.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 7: I can sing it if you want.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Is that the irony of it being one of the
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: songs in Gigi?
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 7: What do you mean?
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Bam!
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 8: That's what I mean.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 7: I think Gigi's boring.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 6: What?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: Which aspect? Oh, my God, it's such a delightful romp.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: And Maurice Chevalier is perfection.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Maurice Chevalier, he's the only one that kind of makes
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: everything else.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: I'm like.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's the.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: Same as like, you know.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: objectively, is it a good film? Yeah, but it's like, objectively,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: is Dr. Zhivago a good film?
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I find it boring as well.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 7: Is that a tie-in?
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: Is that a lead-in?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: Hey, there we go!
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: Omar Sharif.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 7: Gigi's really good.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 6: Go see it.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 7: So, Omar Sharif.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, actually, I don't have a lot on that.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: Lawrence of Arabia.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: I love Lawrence of Arabia.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 7: Everyone loves Lawrence of Arabia.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: I love Dr. Zhivago. I thought that was fantastic. Amazing film.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 7: I did not love Dr.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Zhivago.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: But, you know, I like Gigi, so what.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: Do I know? it's just I don't know apparently about
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: as much as I know Zhivago it just it I
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: just feel like it just goes on and.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: On and on it drags it does drag and you
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: know Lawrence of Arabia it's comparable in length but to
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 5: me it's just such a fascinating story and Omar Sharif
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 5: you know I just love him and Peter O'Toole and
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: everyone in that film you know anything though typically David
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: Lean I find solid so it's just I don't know
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know you know I'd have to go back
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: and I suppose I would need to maybe we need
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: to have a Gigi and a Dr.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: Zhivago show too so that way it.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: Can be like oh why do you not like these
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: movies sit down and watch.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: Gigi and Dr.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 5: Zhivago and Mulholland Drive and get it for yourself and
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: I'd be like okay.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 6: I'm running down the list here. It's funny, after those two,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 6: there aren't a lot of huge titles. I mean, I
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: guess Funny Girl's the other big one, Genghis Khan-ish, but
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: I got to the end and went, oh, I forgot
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 6: about the bridge thing.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 6: I forgot, like, there was a big push in, like,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 6: late 90s, early 2000s. Like, he had his own, I
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: think he had his own video where he was teaching people, like,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: he was ranked as one of the 50 best bridge
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: players in the world.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Pretty awesome.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 5: You must not forget his uncredited... and non-speaking role cameo
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: in pink panther strikes again as the egyptian hitman.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 6: He's one of those that like built up his career
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: on like again he's almost the legend of omar sharif
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 6: like he has got such status but then looking at
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: again the big names it's like there aren't a ton
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: of them not even like unless you're a super hardcore
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 6: old school film person Like a lot of those don't
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: mean anything. So it's like Lawrence of Arabia, Dr.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: Zhivago.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: That's probably the two most regular people would be familiar with.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: And yet Omar Sheree has been a huge name in
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: like sort of Hollywood royalty kind of thing. But yeah,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 6: I think he built himself up a really nice reputation
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: for being in, you know, these huge Hollywood movies.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: He became like a quick heartthrob.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that was part of it.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: The eyes and the mustache.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: He was just cool. I think that's what it was.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 6: It was that same thing. Ricardo was banking on that too.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: It's like, I have a cool accent. I'm kind of,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: you know, I've got a weird different look to me
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: that people can't even pin down what it is, but
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: the women seem to like it. So I think that
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: was it for Omar. All right, moving on. the fact
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: that we lost not one, but two of the, uh,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 6: our gang characters.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 7: It was a rough year for our gang, rough year
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 7: for laughing, rough year for American horror story and a
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 7: rough year to like be an extreme sports person. That
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 7: was the one thing I noticed, but I guess every
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 7: year is maybe.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: A rough year for that.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Don't be an extreme sports person. But yeah, Jean
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 6: Darling was the former, let's see, she was Jean in
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 6: our gang. And then, um, It says she was one
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 6: of the last actors still alive who worked during the
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 6: silent film era because she was 93. Originated the role
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 6: of Carrie Pippenridge in Carousel on Broadway and hosted her
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: own NBC television show, A Date with Jean Darling. Seems
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 6: like it gives it all in the title there, too.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 6: But yeah, also Dickie Moore, who he was in a
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 6: ton of stuff, too.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: He was in a ton of stuff. That's the one
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was in Our Gang, but then Blonde Venus,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 6: Million Dollar Legs, Oliver Twist, Sergeant York. And then this one, yeah,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: I thought was interesting. Dickie Moore gave Shirley Temple her
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: first on-screen kiss in Miss Annie Rooney in 1942. So
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 6: there you go. Went on to become a correspondent for
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 6: Stars and Stripes during World War II and established his
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 6: own public relations in New York.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Give it up for the wartime actors and actresses. There
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: you go. They were amazing.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 6: So, Our gang. It's getting to be a smaller gang.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 7: Is there anybody left in that gang?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 6: That's what I was wondering. I was like, how many
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 6: were left up until this point?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 12: But I am not sure.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Being that we've just come off of one of the
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: longest wars in American history, I'm wondering what that list
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: of celebrities is that have actually donated their time and
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: their talent to the USO i don't think they're if
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: there are many they don't publicize yeah there were kudos
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: to them for not doing that but.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 6: Again i've listened to a ton of stand-up comics over
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: the years there were a huge number of comics like
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: they just built their own thing that was kind of
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: separate and they just toured over there and just go
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 6: from one base to another and did it for nothing
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: pretty much and just that was the it became a
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 6: big thing in all those circles that they would kind
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 6: of recruit their friends and they would all go over there.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 6: So I know comedy-wise, there were still a good amount
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 6: of people over there doing stuff. But as far as
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 6: actors and singing and dancing going on, I'm not really sure.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Well, of course, World War II, there wasn't, you know, streaming.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 8: Why not?
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: You couldn't go and play Call of Duty in the barracks.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 6: What the hell? This one I didn't know much about.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 6: I still really don't. Amanda Peterson. But I did... this year.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: I had not watched Can't Buy Me Love.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 8: What?
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know how I made it out of that
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: time period, but I think because I didn't like What's-His-Face.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: Patrick Dempsey?
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Patrick Dempsey?
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 6: Not a Patrick Dempsey fan.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 7: But that works for the narrative.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: Again, I hadn't seen it. So watching, I'm like, okay, yeah,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: it does. I mean, he fits the role perfectly. But
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: had just not gotten around to it, didn't really like him.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: But when the week that she died, Carl, that you met,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: did a showing that week of Can't Buy Me Love,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 6: and we sat there and watched it. It was me
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 6: and Carl and some other random guy that came in
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 6: the coffee shop that wandered out about midway in. I
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 6: don't know if he knew why he was there. He
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: was just hanging out. We're like, well, we're going to
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: start a movie. And he just kind of sat there
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 6: and was sort of a good sport about it. But
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: I'm like, why? Because he was... Older, like watching this
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 6: weird teenage movie from the 80s.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite teenage 80s movies.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 6: What was your take?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: It's a great one.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 6: Just because of the dynamic of it? It seems like
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: most of those were playing with that a little bit.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 6: This was the most direct. I think it was more
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: accurate under its original title. You do know what the
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: original title was.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: I do not.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: There's a reason they changed it, because you're not going
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: to make money with a movie called Boy Rents Girl.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 6: Unless it's behind the curtain. That was their original screenplay.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: That's how they pitched this before it got sold. And
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: then they realized, oh, it always works if you just
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 6: change it to a song that has nothing to do
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: with the movie. And it happens many a time.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: That's a great one.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: And she's lovely.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: She's, yeah.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 8: Three O'Clock High.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: Three O'Clock High was another 80s.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: That one's, yeah, that one's one of those that kind
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: of slips by.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Slips under, it goes under the radar.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: And when you go back and watch it, it was like, technically,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 6: they were doing some really cool camera work.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: Amazing films.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 6: But yeah, she was one I hadn't really known much about,
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 6: and she didn't do very much. She didn't have a
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 6: chance to. I guess at the time, she just got
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: out of it. After that, she had a rough life.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: What was so rough about her life?
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 10: Drugs.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 6: I know people in L.A. getting into drugs, it's unheard of.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: But it happens.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, especially child stars.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that never happens.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 7: Or teen stars.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: I've been going back and watching some. I watched a
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: couple episodes of Eight is Enough on YouTube. Speaking of
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: Dick Van Patten.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: God, I forgot about that one.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 6: Star of Spaceballs, Dick Van Patten.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: That's right. And I watched an episode of The Greatest
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: American Hero last night.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 6: That's one of those. They could probably reboot that. And
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 6: I know people will hate that as well. I would
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: watch it. I think it's still a great concept. And
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: it suffers from being a cheesy 80s TV show. So,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, like, you could do a good version of
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 6: that that wasn't quite as silly.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: As it became.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 6: Without Robert Cullen.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 6: You could still get... It was William Catt, wasn't it?
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 6: He's on board. You could get him to read. He
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 6: could be the older guy now.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: But Dick Van Patten was definitely a loss. Yeah. It was,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: He had done a lot of stuff that, again, most people...
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: Of that era, only New England State is enough.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: Jeffrey Lewis is another one of those that, like, you
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 6: saw him in everything, specifically, like, 70s and 80s. Like,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 6: 70s movies, he had a ton. 80s TV, like, the
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 6: list just kept going. I'm like, once again, everybody's in
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: an episode of The Fall Guy. Everybody's in an episode. Like,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: if you're an actor at that point, you just end
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 6: up on the A-team. Like, there's no two ways about it.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: You have to be in MacGyver. which they were running
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: a bunch of MacGyver on some cable channel. I sat
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: there and three episodes in a row kept coming on.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 6: I'm like, there's some Netflix. Every week they just pulled
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: in a bunch of actors that you kind of are
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: familiar with. But yeah, Jeffrey Lewis, most recently I was like,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: he was in the Devil's Rejects. He's in the band
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 6: that's in the motel with Brian Posehn. It doesn't end
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 6: well for them.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 9: Spoiler alert.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 6: But that was kind of like one of the later
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 6: things I really kind of remembered him standing out in.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: It's funny, I guess most people would probably now the
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 6: go to would be, oh, father of Juliette Lewis, because
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: she kind of made a bigger name for herself than
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: he did. But you go back and look at like
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 6: his early days, like it's again, tons of Clint Eastwood,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: like any which way you can, Bronco, Billy, like all.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: Of that stuff.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 6: But he's also in like Salem's Lot. He's in Heaven's Gate.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: There's something you want to tell people. 10 to Midnight,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 6: one of my favorites, Night of the Comet. So, I mean,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: he's lust in the dust. Like, he just, everything in
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: that point, he's just one of those go-to actors.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: Lust in the dust, fantastic.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: Annihilator.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: Not Paul Bartel's best, but.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 6: It's one of those that felt like it was going
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: It was almost like Paul Bartel trying to do John Waters.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: And maybe it's just because Divine's in it, I suppose.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: It was a mixture. It doesn't feel like the Bartel stuff.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 6: It doesn't really feel like Waters exactly, but it's a
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 6: weird in-between point between them. But he does seem like,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: oh yeah, I can see him in there. He's in
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 6: Pink Cadillac. He's another one in Tango and Cash. He's
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 6: just in a ton of movies. I kind of liked him.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 6: He had that Another one of those every man that
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: usually gets stuck in the wrong situation.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Or is just sort of a jerk.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 6: Like, he played a lot of the jerky villain guys in.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: This, too.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 6: But I liked him. He was fun. He was a
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: good character. Samuel Goldwyn Jr. If you want to get
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 6: on the production side of it. Yeah. You don't like that?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: Producers.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Whatever. This guy sucks.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, you could always mention cinematographers. Haskell Wexler, we.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: Lost this year. Haskell Wexler.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: Right on.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: Who, he made it, well, there's Secret of Roninish, which
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: was one of my favorites of his. But he did
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: one called, a documentary that he produced and directed called
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Who Needs Sleep? And it's about the abuse of non-union
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: personnel in the film industry and how they're worked 20-hour shifts,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: sometimes 24-hour shifts, and made to work several days straight
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: without with barely any time off for sleep, and how
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: it's caused so many deaths in the industry. I had
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: a friend who was a PA in L.A. who was
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: working on a major production, and he was a film runner,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: so he would run the dailies back and forth. This
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: was 15 years ago. And after several 20-hour shifts in
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: a row, he died on the 101, crashed his car
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: into a, you know, whatever, um, embankment. And, um, and, uh,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: so yeah, Haskell Wexler was always, not only was he
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: a great cinematographer, but he was also somebody who, um,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: I always heard, I never met the man, but I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: always heard he was, um, just a real proponent for
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: the fair treatment of, of crew and the humane treatment
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: of crew. Um, you know, cause the film industry is,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: can be brutal. But he was always a big supporter
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: of the unions and giving people the breaks and giving
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: people a view.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 6: You mentioned documentaries, the Grey Gardens.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 16: And having just had a big documentary discussion on a
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 16: recent episode, that, yeah, was pretty monumental and seemed like
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 16: it inspired a whole lot.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: Of documentary filmmakers right there.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Right. Oh, and Mira.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: She was pretty huge.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 6: Kind of an important role as far as.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: Women in comedy.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 6: She came along at a point when very few were
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 6: doing it, so I thought that was kind of at
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: least notable. And we wouldn't have Ben Stiller. I was
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 6: waiting to see if you took that on the good
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 6: or bad side of her.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: I don't like Ben Stiller. I think he's all right.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 6: I think he's got a lot of potential. Again, you
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 6: go back and look at the Ben Stiller show like that.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 6: was way ahead of its time and like super, again,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 6: just sort of influential of the like sketch comedy that
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 6: came after it. And then when they started handing him
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 6: tons and tons of money, which I can't, I'd be
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 6: taking those millions of dollars to make those mediocre movies too.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 6: But he did like a lot of his big dumb
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 6: comedies were that, but he would still kind of turn
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 6: in his own weird wins that, you know, he would direct.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 6: And so it's, he's one of those, you gotta, it's
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: hit and miss. Like you gotta find, The go-to wins
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 6: for him.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: But he's one of those guys where if he didn't
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: have parents who were in the industry, would he have
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: made it? And I argue that he's a talent, and
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: he's talented enough to hold his own, but I don't
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: think he would have broken through.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 6: Again, he was super talented at that early point. I
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 6: don't know if he would have. Again, if that got
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 6: his foot in the door, I don't know.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 5: If you ask me who I'm going to sit in
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: a room with for eight hours, I would pick Jerry
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: Stiller over Ben.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 7: Stiller, hands down.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 6: I would think he'd have some stories.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the way he would tell them.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: And the way he would tell them would be priceless.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 7: Speaking of women, did we mention Melissa Matheson? No. Screenwriter
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 7: Melissa Matheson, responsible for the line ET phone home.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 7: Are you thanking me or Melissa Matheson?
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Both of you, at the same time.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 5: I was going to say... Earlier when you were talking,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 5: Nimoy almost brought up Grace Lee Whitney and got sidetracked,
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: but she definitely did a lot of television. Again, like
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 5: you were saying earlier, another one of those faces just
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: kept popping up time and time and time again. I liked, personally,
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: she's in one of my favorite episodes of The Outer Limits.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: I always liked her in the Controlled Experiment episode alongside
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: Carol O'Connor.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 6: Did want to at least mention Fred Thompson. Just because
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 6: of the weird crossover life that he had. That was impressive.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 6: Very few people can go back and forth like he did.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 7: From being an actor to politician to life insurance spokesman?
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah. And be likable, more or less. There's a few
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 6: people that have crossed over into politics. But usually that
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 6: ruins their lives, so... I feel like he came back.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: And did acting later, you know? Some guy named Reagan.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 6: Never heard of him.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: If you remember him. But.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, Rombanzo. I do remember Rombanzo, but... No, I.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: It was one of the.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 6: I feel like he kind of came back even afterwards,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 6: so that's... I don't know. That was kind of impressive.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 7: Or was it reverse mortgages? I get confused.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 6: I think it was reverse mortgages.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: Speaking of reverse mortgages, last night.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 6: Uh-oh, sales pitch.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Last night I saw.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 5: Gosh, the Big Short.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: The Big Short. Thank you. I'm drawing a blank. You're welcome.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: I'm reading your mind. I have no idea what you're
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 7: I did that with the Sandlot earlier.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: I must not have gotten enough sleep. Big Short is
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: on my top ten greatest films of all time. I
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: heard it was good.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 6: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: So well done.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 7: That's tremendous.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: So well done. Every aspect of that film just knocked
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: it out of the park.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: I would see it again and again. It was better
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: than Cats. That's not really a movie. But just amazing. Absolutely.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: They took a subject that is as dry as the
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: Sahara Desert and turned it into an edge-of-your-seat movie. Amazing.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: So I highly recommend it.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 7: Cool. Yeah, I was turned off of that genre, that
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 7: two-movie genre, by whatever that movie was that I've already forgotten,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 7: about the home crisis in Florida and people making money
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 7: off of it, starring Spider-Man.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 6: No, I'm just picturing Spider-Man, and it's okay.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just picturing that title on a DVD case, is
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: what I'm picturing.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's essentially what it was.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: Can I interest you in a sub-3 movie?
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 6: He did have some wisecracks along the way. Maybe he'd
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 6: just sneak in a little sales pitch in there. Wouldn't
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 6: even see it coming.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's see.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 6: Richard Glitzer. That was a recent, as far as him
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 6: writing Still House. Directing.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's an incredible story.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Quick turnaround, and now it's already gone. Sam Simon,
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 6: Simpsons co-director.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Now, why do you think that film's gone? I mean,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: why do you think that just kind of dropped off the...
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: Which still helps?
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 6: I think it's like all of the super drama. Like,
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 6: they always win acting stuff, and then they're not fun,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 6: so the next year people move on to a new
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 6: drama to give somebody an award for, and, like, nobody
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 6: really latches on to them. I mean, there's a lot
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 6: of those big dramas each year that you kind of
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 6: forget about, right? Like, I don't know. I feel like
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 6: those are ones I lose track of. I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 6: there was a movie. I don't know if that far-fetched
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 6: for anyone else.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, you know, working at the theater, we
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 5: would see it where it's like, oh, this is trying
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 5: to be the next American Beauty, or oh, this is
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 5: trying to be the next.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: Cider House Rules. It was always about, you know, trying
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: to be the next something.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 7: The next terrible movie.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 5: And then suddenly, like, people just get utterly flabbergasted to where, like, oh,
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 5: this movie that no one banked on is suddenly, like,
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 5: drawing everybody in.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 6: Well, and especially something like that, a lot of times
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 6: it becomes about the performance and not the movie, so
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 6: the director won't get much credit, but, like, it's all
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 6: about Julianne Moore did this amazing thing, and, like, so
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 6: I think sometimes that overshadows the film itself, is like,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 6: this performance is so good, and sometimes it is, but
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 6: I feel like sometimes that takes away from the movie.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 6: People will just be like, oh, that one with Julianne Moore, like,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 6: you'll lose the title along the way because the performance was.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, kind of like Driving Miss Daisy. It's
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 5: like you could list, you know, different people who were
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: in it, but it's like the director didn't even get nominated,
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 5: which rarely happens in Hollywood to where a film wins
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 5: Best Picture and the director wasn't even nominated. Of course,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 5: the most recent one that happened was, of course, Argo.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 6: But, you know, it's... It's because they hate Ben. That
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 6: was pre-Batman.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 5: He's already got an Oscar.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 6: Grace Lee Whitney, Star Trek for our geek tie-ins there.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 6: David Canary, which again, I didn't watch the soap opera,
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 6: but looking back, it is like how many Westerns he
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 6: was in over the years.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 6: That guy, again, turned in a hell of a career
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 6: long before he got to All My Children.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: Were you looking up the movie over here?
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 7: Yes, I found it. I was waiting for a pause,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 7: and then I was going to say that the movie
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 7: I was... I don't want to take away David Canary's moment, though,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 7: so please continue.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 6: He just had a ton of movies before he became
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 6: a soap opera actor.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: 24 years on what? All My Children?
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 6: Yes, All My Children.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: All My Children. Meanwhile, for those who aren't in the studio. Meanwhile,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: for those on the edge.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 7: Of their seats trying to figure out what the housing
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 7: crisis film.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: That I mentioned.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 5: Which that person is only like, Lucy literally is on
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 5: the edge of her seat, manically looking through the phone like,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: what is the name of that movie?
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 6: What the hell is that Spider-Man movie?
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 7: Andrew Garfield was the Spider-Man in question. And the film,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 7: and I was trying to remember who else was in it,
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 7: but I had given him a pass. I had actually
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 7: taken him out of my memory of this film because
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 7: I like him so much, is Michael Shannon. And the
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 7: film was called 99 Homes.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 6: That's true.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 7: And it was terrible.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: Was it terrible?
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 7: Just so terrible.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 6: But Michael Shannon is super cool.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: I love Michael Shannon. Great, always. I think Michael Shannon
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: is fantastic.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, in one of them.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 6: But again, I think that Superman movie is terrible, too.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 6: But he's the reason to watch it. He ends up
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 6: in some not great movies, but he's always good.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 7: It's two great performances.
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 6: He's always good.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 7: Just a shit fest of a film.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: You can put.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 6: That on the DVD box as well.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: He was in another one recently, a Doomsday film. Take Shelter? Yes,
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: Take Shelter. I love that movie. I can't even remember
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: my own way home today. We agree on a lot
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: of movies.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 7: Just vehemently disagree on some.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 5: It just seems like, I mean, I don't vehemently disagree.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 5: It's like, I could go back and re-watch Gigi.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 7: Oh, War Horse, I'm pretty sure.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 6: The epic War Horse.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 7: Almost came to blows.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind it.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 7: No, you liked it.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about the I.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 5: Don't like War Horse enough to see it again or
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 5: buy it, but I didn't dislike it.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 7: Roll the tape, Ryan.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 6: Let's go to the tape.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 7: I'm just fucking with you.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: Language! So I can't stop raving about this movie enough,
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: The Big Short. I am not a Christian Bale fan
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 6: Nor should you be.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: I steer clear of films that he's in. And Ryan Gosling.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: I can't stand watching them on film. I don't know
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: why there's.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 7: Just something about those two actors. Even Drive?
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: Even Drive. There's something about those two actors that drives
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: me through the roof.
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 5: You don't like Machinist?
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 8: No.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: No, I just can't connect with them. But I like
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: that director. I cannot connect with these two actors. They
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: killed it in this film. Wow. I mean, I forgot
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: I was watching them. That's how good they were.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 7: It was like you're watching characters.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: I will actually go back and re-watch some Bale films.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: Not Batman. Screw that. But I'll go back and watch
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: some Bale films and some Gosling films again just to
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: give them their, you know, maybe I didn't give them
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: enough credit because this film, they just absolutely nailed it.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 6: Interesting.
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: Excellent.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 7: That's the best endorsement I've heard for anything maybe ever.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 7: I'll see it this week. Or today. Or maybe right now.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the hallmark of a really great film or
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: a really spectacularly bad film. Because if you're still talking
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: about it 24 hours later. Right.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 6: Epic one way or the other.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 6: We're going to have to round it out. So we're
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 6: just going to run through the rest of these. And
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 6: Wayne Rogers. We already sort of mentioned Lemmy, who, again,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 6: mostly music, but looked at his IMDb. Nothing but bad
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 6: trauma movies. Some of which I've unfortunately watched. I'm not
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 6: a huge trauma fan of it. But, again, he knew...
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: Guest starred on the Young Ones. Oh, yeah.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 6: Again. I remembered that as we came here. I was like,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 6: it's funny. That may be the first time I saw him.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 6: And it's funny that they still played Ace of Spades.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 6: I was talking about that yesterday. I was like, that's
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 6: the only song he... How many years? Years did he
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 6: have that band. That's still the only song most people
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 6: even knew existed.
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: Well, it's one more hit song than I've ever had.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 6: So that's true. And he seemed like a fun guy.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 6: I did see it. Doug Bradley posted because they're in
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 6: the music video for Hellraiser 3. They did a video
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 6: for it. So they sat across the table from each
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 6: other playing cards. I don't think they played Ace of Spades,
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 6: but I think at one point that's the joke is
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 6: he plays the card Ace of Spades. But he talked
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 6: about the fact that he sat there and he's in costume,
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 6: I think, most of the day. So he's like just
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 6: sitting there trying to survive he's drinking water lemmy's just
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 6: knocking back booze all day long he's like they're just
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 6: he's a big music fan so he and lemmy are
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 6: just sitting there talking music for hours on end while
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 6: they shoot this thing but he said the entire time
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 6: just drinking i'm like that was his life like that's
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 6: he was rock star from day one like That's what
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 6: he did.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 7: And lived to be a lot older than I realized.
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, well, I was like, I guess
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 6: I hadn't thought about it, but I was like, yeah,
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 6: that was early 80s when he was on TV, and
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 6: that was the second band he was sort of known for.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, that's the first death I've
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 5: seen in a while where I was like, really? That's
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 5: how old he was?
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: I think the last one was a couple years ago
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: when Paul Walker died. I was like, he was 40?
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 6: He was eternally 26, right?
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: Well, and then Filthy Phil died this year, too, didn't he?
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 6: Again, I didn't get to much of the music, but
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 6: there were several Twisted Sister Drummer Die. There were several
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 6: other band people along the way. Again, we're so overwhelmed
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 6: with just actors. Brooke McCarter, Patricia Elliott, Marjorie Lord. This one,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 6: Sahid Jafri, who was actually I thought was interesting. He
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 6: was an Indian actor who He's in, he had a
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 6: huge Bollywood career, but then was in Gandhi and passage
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 6: to India and was the first Indian recipient of the
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 6: Order of the British Empire for his contributions to drama.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 6: That was it.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 8: A first.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 6: Gotta note that.
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, what else?
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 6: Marty Ingalls.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 6: Pat Waddell.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: Joan Leslie.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 6: She was kind of old school, golden age of Hollywood.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 7: Did we even get to Anita Eckberg?
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 6: Think it's on here i don't think we got it
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 6: to it yet do.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 7: You have some anita stories not really.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 6: But but we have noted her no not really all
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 6: right going down the list duly noted.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you anita for your contribution to film history.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 7: Try not to make light of any of these i
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 7: feel i feel like that was one of the ones
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 7: that was sort of bigger that everyone else made a
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 7: big deal of yeah but she wasn't in any horror films,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 7: to my knowledge, so not on this show. Sorry, Anita.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 7: Learn to speak English.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 6: Frank Albanese. Goodfellas, Sopranos. Kevin Corcoran, who, the youngest son
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 6: in Old Yeller, was in the sequel, Savage Sam.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 7: There was a sequel to Old Yeller?
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 6: Called Savage Sam?
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 7: 1963.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 6: And Dean Jones wasn't in either of those. There's your homework.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 6: But he, again, that was another one of those. He
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 6: got in that little group because he's in The Shaggy Dog,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 6: Swiss Family Robinson, and Bon Voyage. And then went on to, like,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 6: he was an assistant director on Murder, She Wrote. He's
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 6: a producer, started with Return from Witch Mountain, but ended
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 6: on The Shield and Sons of Anarchy.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, Return from Witch Mountain.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: Christopher Lee was the villain in that as well. See, look,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: we all keep circling back.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 6: Jack Larson, he's got an interesting story. Jimmy Olsen from
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 6: the old Adventures of Superman Martin Milner Judy Carr Bud
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 6: Yorkin we didn't get to Yvonne Craig we have to
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 6: at least acknowledge Yvonne.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: Craig thank you Yvonne for your contribution to film history.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 6: And that outfit I mean it was an awesome outfit
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 6: did you meet her at any point she was at
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 6: Wonderfest years ago I think it was pre the show
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 6: maybe so I don't think we talked.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: To her but She's just a sweet gal. Look at
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: all the dead people lying there.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 6: You just need to get out more, is the thing.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 6: You would have been hanging out with Alex Rocco if
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 6: you had the chance, but no. You're making movies, whatever
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 6: you do.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at all the living, famous people I know.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm living the dream. That's what I'm doing.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 6: Roger Rees. Diana Douglas. Who else do we have? Patrick McNee.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 6: We should probably at least note that.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: For Avengers fans. Thank you, Patrick, for your contribution to
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: film history.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 6: James Horner. Famed composer and writer of many an animated
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 6: kids song. Because as I'm going through and I'm like.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 6: of these damn Land Before Time movies did he do?
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 5: Favorite score would be a toss-up between The Rocketeer and Krull.
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  Speaker 6: We should have a Krull episode. He had so many
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 6: other kind of cool stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I want a Krull episode. Have you seen Krull, Lucy?
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  Speaker 7: I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 6: Are you writing all these down?
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  Speaker 1: We have horses.
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  Speaker 5: There are horses in Krull.
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  Speaker 6: It's not going to end well, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, wait, no.
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  Speaker 5: There might be.
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  Speaker 1: You're unwell to watch a crawl.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Crawl soundtrack and Yeti. Somewhere out there, the mouse song.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 7: Oh, the Fievel song?
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, of all weird crossovers here. Really? And My Heart
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 6: Will Go On.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 7: Oh, well. We should go out on that.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 6: Shouldn't we? People love that song.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: They did for.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 6: We'll do you a favor.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe we won't.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 7: Private planes and skiing accidents.
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  Speaker 6: Suzanne, Tracy on the Partridge family. Ben Powers from Good Times. AJ, yeah,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 6: AJ Perot. Jenna McMahon. Like, there's just, there's too many people.
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  Speaker 6: Gary Owens. There's too many people. People, stop dying. That's
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 6: our takeaway from this.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 7: Or stop telling us about it. Because we just don't
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 7: want to deal with it.
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  Speaker 6: We should stop these episodes, is what you're saying. Our
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 6: tribute episodes need to die.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 5: But keep doing stuff to where it makes us want
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 5: to talk about you.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 9: That's true.
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  Speaker 6: Give us interesting performances, not interesting deaths. But those are
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 6: pretty cool. If you're going to go out, do something cool.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 6: Which is what all the extreme sports guys will come
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 6: back to. They all start like this, watch this! And
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 6: that's the end of it.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: And the next one says, oh, I can do that.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 6: I can do that even further.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 7: Did you make that guy Australian? Is that what just happened?
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: Crikey. Crikey.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 6: Watch me grab this gator by the tail.
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: That's not a knife. Still alive. All right.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 6: Anything else you want to send people out on? Pick
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 6: our favorite James Horner song and let's get that. Or
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 6: just go out on a Leonard Nimoy song.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 7: There you go.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: Bilbo.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 6: I walked a line.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 6: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time,
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 6: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Don't die.
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: I keep a close watch on this heart of mine.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 3: I keep my eyes wide open all the time.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 13: I keep the ends out for the tie that binds.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 10: Because you're mine. I walk the line. I find it very,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 10: very easy to be true. I find myself alone when each.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 3: Day is through.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 13: Yes, I'll admit that I'm a fool for you.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: Because you're mine. I walk the line.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 11: As sure as night is dark and day is light
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 11: I keep you on my mind both day and night
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 11: And happiness I've known proves that it's right Because.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 3: You're mine, I walk the line You've got a way
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: to keep.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 15: Me on your side You give me cause for love
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 15: that I can't hide For you I know I'd even
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 15: turn the tide Because.
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 3: You're mine, I walk the line I keep a close
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 3: watch on this heart of mine I keep my eyes wide.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 13: Open all the time I keep the ends out for
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 13: the tie that binds.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: We should have Van Dyke.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 5: That's what threw me off.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what? Did I say Van Dyke?
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 9: No.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: No, I said Van Patten.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, sorry.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 6: He's not dead.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 8: He's not dead.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: That threw me off for a second. I was like, what?
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 5: Dick Van Dyke?
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 8: He's still around. It's fine.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 5: Who's going to do offensive Cockney accents.
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 6: If Dick Van Dyke is coming up?
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 7: It's okay.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: That's one of the few people you can make fun of.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 9: Cockney.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 6: They're asking for it.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 7: Try some new Minute Maid orange tangerine.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 6: It's got calcium.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 1: Then I'm not drinking it.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, no, it's sweet.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: You'll like it.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 6: I don't believe you.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: Well, then who would you believe?
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 7: I don't know, Robert Loja. Whoa, Robert Loja.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: Billy, your mother's right.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: A minute made orange tangerine tastes great.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 10: It's got as much calcium as milk.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 3: I don't believe you.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 4: I want you to get a fucking driver's manual.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 6: I want you to study that motherfucker. And I want
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 6: you to obey.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 1: The goddamn rules.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 5: Fifty fucking thousand people were killed on the highway last
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 5: year because of fucking assholes.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 8: Like you!
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 6: If you say so, Mr.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 8: Loja.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 9: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 9: edited by the Auditude Studios, with opening music performed by
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 9: the Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support
• 2:18:17
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• 2:18:20
  Speaker 8: Talk hard!