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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-17 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: In producing US six one guard from Brighton Mellanois and
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  Speaker 1: former high school basketball stand What in the hell does
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  Speaker 1: that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Jumped any conclusions? Not a god, You've got to lower
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  Speaker 2: lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to.
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  Speaker 3: Plum getting some bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
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  Speaker 3: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 4: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champion.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan, What to You Buy to let a casino
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  Speaker 1: Resort and Quilsea Creek Draftking sports Book where the action
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  Speaker 1: never stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good Monday morning, and welcome into the radio show.
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  Speaker 2: It is six am, dark and early here on this Monday,
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  Speaker 2: and we have assembled for a four hour radio program
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  Speaker 2: where we will discuss many things Seattle sports, including the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks loss to the Los Angeles Rams twenty one to
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  Speaker 2: nineteen and the re signing of Josh Naylor, which we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to here in a matter of moments as well.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Hope you all had a great weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan is here. Looks like she had a great weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the glow on her face. Hi.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it was good.
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  Speaker 2: It was good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a cracking game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Got a win that was fun, very nice.
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  Speaker 6: Stressed out about the Seahawks game leading up to it
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  Speaker 6: all day yesterday and then watched it.
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  Speaker 5: Stressed out.
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  Speaker 2: That was fun. Yeah, there was never any moment not
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of stressed on your edge of your seat.
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  Speaker 6: Of that case, there was it which was crazy for
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  Speaker 6: how terrible we looked at times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, but also good at times, which we'll
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  Speaker 2: cover here today. Buncky Jake since here as well, the
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  Speaker 2: former Mariner.
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  Speaker 3: Good weekend, great weekend. Yeah, yeah, a lot of chilling out.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't do a ton of weather, wasn't wonderful. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I got outside a little bit with the kids, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I watched a lot of football. I watched a lot
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  Speaker 3: of time, too much football.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm done with this, and then
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  Speaker 2: Lions Eagles came on. I'm like, this is pretty intriguing.
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  Speaker 2: I guess my ass will continue to turn to mush.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like a couple more hours.
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  Speaker 2: Then I get done with it, take a shower, and
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  Speaker 2: I go hang out in the living room and like
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  Speaker 2: fall asleep immediately.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, what a day.
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  Speaker 7: What a day?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's my wife doesn't ask anymore about
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  Speaker 3: what games I have to watch. She just assumes if
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  Speaker 3: I'm watching it, then I need to watch it. My kids,
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  Speaker 3: on the other hand, Yeah, my kids on the other hand, are.
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  Speaker 8: Like, Dad, do you have to watch this one too? Yep, yep,
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  Speaker 8: I do. This one is a must watch.
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  Speaker 3: But then yeah, got down to the Detroit game and
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  Speaker 3: it was like, don't have to, but I'm gonna. Ah,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Yeah, they wanted to watch Monday Night Raw.
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  Speaker 3: Oh from last Monday.
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  Speaker 5: I was it was Sunday Nay.
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  Speaker 2: Look, okay, hey it's Dan Campbell. It is Monday Night Raw.
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  Speaker 2: Kinda yeah, that's right, very unpredictable. Never know when he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna come off the top rope and go for it
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  Speaker 2: on fourth and thirty two from his own fourgy Well,
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  Speaker 2: welcome into the show. We got a lot to cover today.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, some Seahawks rams will be the primary focus.
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  Speaker 2: It is a Monday morning quarterback day, and all of
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  Speaker 2: our Titans of Analysis will be here today to break
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  Speaker 2: it all down for you. It is a loss twenty
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  Speaker 2: one to nineteen to the Los Angeles Rams in Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 2: and I realize all the world is screaming Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have what it takes in big games.
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  Speaker 9: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't see it that way as we sit
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  Speaker 2: here on a Monday morning. I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm crazy, but I saw a head coach who
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  Speaker 2: pretty much took Matt Stafford and Sean McVay to work,
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  Speaker 2: took him to school. Yesterday. After the first quarter, Matt
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  Speaker 2: Stafford finished with one hundred and thirty passing yards. He's
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  Speaker 2: been the best quarterback in the National Football League until
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  Speaker 2: the second quarter of yesterday's game. I saw a team
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  Speaker 2: that had lost the turnover battle four to one. And
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  Speaker 2: I saw a team yesterday that, if not for a
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  Speaker 2: punt that flucishly went out of bounds, that the one
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  Speaker 2: yard line and you had to go ninety well not
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine yards, but you had to go that much
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  Speaker 2: further to get into field goal range with little time remaining.
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  Speaker 2: A team that went one in four in the red
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  Speaker 2: zone and settled for field goals all day long, a
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  Speaker 2: team that nearly doubled up the yardage output of the
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams yesterday, that held the ball for nearly
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  Speaker 2: twice the amount of time that the Mighty La Rams.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they faced a great team yesterday, a great offense,
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  Speaker 2: a great defense, and despite all of that that happened,
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  Speaker 2: they found themselves with a chance to win the game
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  Speaker 2: late on a sixty one yard field goal which Jason
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  Speaker 2: Myers would have made from seventy earlier in the game,
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  Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, just didn't hit it. True, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: despite the frustration, and yeah, I think Sam Darnold cost
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  Speaker 2: us the game yesterday, and I think he'd be the
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  Speaker 2: first one to admit that with his four interceptions. But
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  Speaker 2: despite it all, I kind of came away with it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm crazy. We're better than this team and we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna show it later on this year. So yeah, we're
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  Speaker 2: a game and a half out of first place at
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  Speaker 2: this point. But to me, after the first quarter, Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 2: everything settled in and I believe that we just completely
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  Speaker 2: outplayed them and yet lost the game by two points.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I feel this Monday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I you know how I look at the glass
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  Speaker 3: half full for the most part. I mean I came
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  Speaker 3: away with far more positive thoughts than negative thoughts. I
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  Speaker 3: mean the fact that, yeah, your quarterback threw four picks
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  Speaker 3: and you still basically had a chance to win right
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  Speaker 3: down to the end.
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  Speaker 8: It says something.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, most of the time, most teams, you just
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  Speaker 3: put throw any two teams out there, and if one
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  Speaker 3: of them throws four interceptions, it's not typically you're not
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  Speaker 3: typically going to have a last second chance at winning
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  Speaker 3: the ball game. That's just you're usually going to lose
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  Speaker 3: by double digits, it seems. And so I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I'd go so far as to say
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  Speaker 3: I felt like you're better or the Seahawks are better
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  Speaker 3: than them.
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  Speaker 8: But they controlled the ball. I mean, they moved the ball.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't like it was it was just when they
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  Speaker 3: got down in the red zone they ended up having
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  Speaker 3: to settle for field goals. You know of four times
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  Speaker 3: I think it was. And then there was a couple
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  Speaker 3: other times where you're getting right inside a field goal
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  Speaker 3: range or close to it at least, and you have
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  Speaker 3: a pick, and yet the defense bote up to only
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  Speaker 3: give up twenty one points to a team that's been rolling.
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  Speaker 8: The way that they have.
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  Speaker 3: There's definitely positives to look at. It was a bad
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  Speaker 3: game by Sam. There was some you know, just kind
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  Speaker 3: of off, you know, it was it was off a
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  Speaker 3: little bit timing wise. Throw a few of those picks
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  Speaker 3: were felt like it was late, you know, like an
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  Speaker 3: extra hitch, and all of a sudden they were jumping
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  Speaker 3: in on the first hitch. And so, yeah, there's there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things to clean up. That's why you
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  Speaker 3: end up losing that ball game. I definitely wouldn't think
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  Speaker 3: that they're flying home from Los Angeles thinking, man, we're
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  Speaker 3: just not on the same level as those guys. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure that they're thinking, man, we had every opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: win that ball game.
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  Speaker 2: We should have won that game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they have to be thinking that, I know.
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  Speaker 6: I think Leonard Williams after the game was interviewed and
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  Speaker 6: said like, yeah, we're ready. You know, I'm already waiting
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  Speaker 6: for them to come back up to Seattle, like I
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  Speaker 6: think they think. I think they let that one get
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  Speaker 6: away that should have been our win. And especially after
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  Speaker 6: the way the game started, you stop them on their
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  Speaker 6: first possession and then to have that interception run back
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  Speaker 6: all the way to the three was it the three
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  Speaker 6: yard liners? You know, at that point, the defense is like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: we just took care of business, you know, and they
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  Speaker 6: and they almost took care of business again. I mean
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  Speaker 6: they did technically holding him to a field goal there,
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  Speaker 6: but uh or no, that was a touchdown. But yeah,
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  Speaker 6: But I just think there were so many positive things,
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  Speaker 6: especially defensively, to take away from that game. And then
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  Speaker 6: even with Donald throwing those four interceptions and still having
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  Speaker 6: the composure to lead the team at the end of
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  Speaker 6: the game to have a chance to win, it was good.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, that's yes, he threw four interceptions.
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  Speaker 2: He cost us the game. Yeah, And if you ask Sam,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna say, I can't do that, right, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And yet that gunslinger mentality that he's played with all
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  Speaker 2: season long, that everybody's been raving about and I'm not
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  Speaker 2: just talking about here in Seattle everywhere to he took
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  Speaker 2: that same mentality in and I didn't see a guy
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  Speaker 2: that at any point was starting to question himself. Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald and Clint Kubiak have clearly given them the instructions
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  Speaker 2: go out there and rip it. Even after the game,
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald was asked Sam Darnold's performance, he said, fine
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  Speaker 2: with it, went out there and ripped it. Those were
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  Speaker 2: the words that he used in the postgame press conference.
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  Speaker 2: And certainly no head coach wants to lose the turnover
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  Speaker 2: battle four to one. No head coach is ever going
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  Speaker 2: to give a gold star to somebody that throws four interceptions.
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  Speaker 2: But despite the four interceptions, Sam was Sam's game never
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  Speaker 2: really changed. He led a touchdown drive in the fourth
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  Speaker 2: quarter and let a feel goal attempt drive in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter, which, again, if that ball doesn't somehow go
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  Speaker 2: out at the one, I think we win the game.
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  Speaker 2: I think that if you're starting at the twenty, I
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  Speaker 2: mean nineteen yards difference. Yeah, Now to mention the backs
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  Speaker 2: against the wall feeling that you have to play with
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  Speaker 2: when you're at the one yard line, you can't just
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  Speaker 2: come out and do your normal two minute drill at
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  Speaker 2: that point. You got to get out of harm's way
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  Speaker 2: first and that takes time. So for him to lead
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  Speaker 2: basically two scoring drives despite throwing four interceptions in the game,
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't see a guy whose confidence was shaken.
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  Speaker 2: I think he threw some ill timed passes. Other than that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he I mean, he certainly, I mean led more drives
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  Speaker 2: than Matt Stafford did yesterday. I watched Jared Goff play
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles last night, Mushy button all, and I saw
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  Speaker 2: a guy that lost his confidence, that couldn't complete a
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  Speaker 2: pass that you know, look like he was afraid to
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  Speaker 2: get hit, was afraid to make the mistake. Where I
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  Speaker 2: didn't see that from Sam Donald. Yes, Sam Donald's fault
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  Speaker 2: that we lost the game. He doesn't throw those four interceptions,
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks probably win the game. But I just, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I just heard this narrative like that everything's on the
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  Speaker 2: line for Sam Like we're gonna sit here on a
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  Speaker 2: Monday morning and ask, Okay, what does this mean about
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald. I think he played the exact same way.
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  Speaker 2: He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar
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  Speaker 2: a couple times too many, playing very aggressive football, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anything changes in my opinion about Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 2: He's been playing that way and playing very well all
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  Speaker 2: season long. I don't feel any differently about him. Am
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  Speaker 2: I worried that Sam Donald's not the right guy the
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  Speaker 2: next time we face the Rams or to try to
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  Speaker 2: lead us in the second half of the season. Not
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  Speaker 2: for one second, so played them, made four reckless plays
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  Speaker 2: yesterday and the Rams caught every single one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Other than that, though, he outplayed Matt Stafford, who's the
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  Speaker 2: MVP of the National Football League right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it, I think that he just didn't. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he had some mistakes, obviously, I think it was late
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  Speaker 3: getting rid of a couple of them, and yet he
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  Speaker 3: just if you do that, you put yourself in harm's way.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that punt that you're talking about, I
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  Speaker 3: mean that's about as perfect as you can possibly place it,
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  Speaker 3: and then yet it's there's some luck involved with that,
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  Speaker 3: and that did put you kind of behind the eight ball.
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  Speaker 3: I think they only had what the one time out
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  Speaker 3: left at that point as well, So it kind of
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  Speaker 3: felt like, boy, you are it's gonna need your gonna
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  Speaker 3: need a near perfect, you know, two minute offensive drive
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  Speaker 3: to kind of get down there and get to where
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  Speaker 3: you really feel good about the.
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  Speaker 8: Game winning field goal.
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  Speaker 3: And they had a couple mishaps here and there that
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  Speaker 3: were just you know a couple of plays that didn't
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  Speaker 3: weren't positive, and you didn't just go bing bing bing
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  Speaker 3: and get right down.
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  Speaker 8: There the way they could.
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  Speaker 3: But Yeah, ultimately you, you floundered a little bit, You
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  Speaker 3: had a couple of mistakes that ended up turning into
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  Speaker 3: points for them and not points for you. In a
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  Speaker 3: two point ball game, it doesn't take but one or
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  Speaker 3: two things to change. I think that the team, the
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  Speaker 3: rest of his teammates kind of feel like, dude, that's fine,
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna happen, right, I mean, is for is a
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  Speaker 3: bad game, right threes are really is still a pretty
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  Speaker 3: bad game. But you're gonna have some interceptions and over
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  Speaker 3: the course of the season they're gonna accumulate. I think
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  Speaker 3: that if anything, it would just be okay. If you
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  Speaker 3: go out and he turns a ball over a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of times against Tennessee, then it's a talking point.
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  Speaker 8: That's then it's conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise it's not a it's just a yeah, you had
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  Speaker 3: a bad game, and really it was you were kind
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  Speaker 3: of controlling the ball and you're playing against a really
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  Speaker 3: good defense that gets really stout down in the red zone,
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  Speaker 3: and so you're going you're when you're going against a
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  Speaker 3: good team, sometimes they're going to make good plays and
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  Speaker 3: if it if you combine it with poor timing or
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  Speaker 3: just a bad decision on your part, like that jump pass.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you okay, it's just not what you
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  Speaker 3: need to do right there. That's not the city that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't call for that in that situation. Those are the
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  Speaker 3: type of things, the small little things, and it's so
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  Speaker 3: important for a quarterback to not do that because, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you find yourself in a very evenly matched ball game
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  Speaker 3: coming up on the short end.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just keep going back to we
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  Speaker 2: tell him to let it rip, and I think he
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  Speaker 2: let it rip, and yeah he got I'll repeat this.
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  Speaker 2: I think he got the hand caught in the cookie jar.
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  Speaker 2: You you know you were a kid. I got a
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  Speaker 2: lot more cookies than I got caught trying to slip cookies,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when mom wasn't looking. I ate a lot
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  Speaker 2: more cookies than I did get caught. And I think
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  Speaker 2: he got caught yesterday. I mean I watched the Bills
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  Speaker 2: Buccaneers game pretty much the entire thing. Baker Mayfield could
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  Speaker 2: have thrown nine interceptions yesterday. Josh Allen could have thrown
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  Speaker 2: eight interceptions yesterday, but not every single one of them
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  Speaker 2: got caught by the defense. Sam Donald's four interception possibilities
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  Speaker 2: got caught by the defense yesterday, and so Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: got to wear it. And I'll be the first person
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  Speaker 2: this morning to say, we win that game if Sam
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  Speaker 2: Donald doesn't commit four turnovers. Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I think that I am
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  Speaker 2: encouraged that he never really changed the way that he's
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  Speaker 2: been playing all season long. And I think that's a
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  Speaker 2: byproduct of Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak. They got the
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  Speaker 2: version of Sam Donald that they want to get, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: with the obvious being we can't turn the ball over
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  Speaker 2: that many times.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And as you said, Sam would be the first
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  Speaker 6: one to say that. I mean he probably that whole
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  Speaker 6: flight home, just was replaying each one of those interceptions,
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  Speaker 6: watching the video, just thinking why did I make that choice?
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  Speaker 5: Why did I do that?
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  Speaker 6: Because I mean I was sitting there yelling at the TV,
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  Speaker 6: like what are you doing? There was a couple moments where,
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  Speaker 6: at least on a couple of those interceptions where it
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  Speaker 6: seemed like, were you actually just throwing it to the Rams?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, there wasn't, but he was also under so
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  Speaker 6: much pressure. But I mean, because we can't take away
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  Speaker 6: from the Rams defense at all.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams that made grazy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were phenomenal and if you would have told
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  Speaker 6: me when that game started and they scored two touchdowns
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  Speaker 6: and we were only scoring field goals, if you would
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  Speaker 6: have told me at the end of the game we
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  Speaker 6: would have been kicking the ball for a chance to
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  Speaker 6: win it, I would have laughed at you.
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  Speaker 2: And that has everything to do with Mike McDonald, which
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  Speaker 2: I think is the other storyline here, because the other
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  Speaker 2: thing that we spend even more time on last week,
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  Speaker 2: more than what does this say about Sam Donald if
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't get the job done? We spent very little
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  Speaker 2: time on that, even though it did become a topic. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we spent the majority of the week talking about is
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  Speaker 2: McDonald versus McVeigh and McDonald won. I mean McDonald just
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  Speaker 2: completely out schemed. I mean Matt Stafford has not looked
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  Speaker 2: confused all season long. He was confused for three quarters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was handed a ball at the three
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  Speaker 2: yard line, it took him four plays to get it
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: in on a touchdown, and then they had a couple
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: of other touchdown drives. Other than that, Matt Stafford was
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: throwing dirting a lot of balls, throwing a lot of
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: balls away. He barely completed fifty percent of his passes yesterday.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: He didn't say take a sack, and he didn't commit
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: a turnover. And maybe that goes to a lot more
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: experience than what Sam Donald has playing in big games
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and just playing period. But he looked as confused as
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I've seen Matt Stafford look in a Rams uniform yesterday.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: And that's all has to do with Mike McDonald and
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: his defense. He kept Matt Stafford from getting into a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: rhythm again pretty much for three quarters yesterday.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: It was a well coached game, I thought. I felt
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: like both teams came out and did some things. I mean,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: it's hard for me to compare the just the stats
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: side by side, simply because one of the positives that
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: you take out of a loss is how well Seattle
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: did move the ball against their defense. Now again, didn't
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: do a whole heck of a lot except for kickfield
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: goals when they got down there for the first three
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: quarters until that that final touchdown that they gave them
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: the chance. And and yet so to me, it's kind
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: of like, well, the Rams defense is pretty good, it's
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: a it is a really good defense, and yet the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: offense showed up and controlled the ball. And then the
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: way in which the score went down. It's not like
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I think the Rams were by any stretch thinking oh,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: we can take our foot off the gas. And yet
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: there also was a we're just trying to methodically, you wanted,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: they wanted to put together good drives, and when they would,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: when they would get a couple first downs, then it
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: would stall out or it would the defense would end
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: up stopping them. So to me, it was the way
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: in which the score was of the game. I don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: necessarily compare the stats equal to each other because it's
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: just like, well, it's not like we were in prevent
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: defense and they were taking their foot off the gas.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: That was three quarters worth. They had twelve first downs
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: for the entire game.
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they just didn't have But that's what I mean.
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: They just didn't have the ball.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: I mean, it was like.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Away from them, or we kept it away from them. Offensively,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: that's the part where that's where it seems like they're
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: not really too even steven things. But it's the same game,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, you want to That's where I'm giving credit
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: to the Seahawks defense and to Mike McDonald because they
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: didn't allow them to sustain these seven minute drives that
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I mean was it the third quarter or second quarter?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: That was basically three drives a seven minute drive for
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, and then they got the ball and punted,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: and then another seven minute drive or the entire quarter
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: they had the ball, and so it was just one
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: of those. And yet at that point in time, it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: fourteen to nine going into halftime, So it was just like, wow,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: you just felt like you you absolutely dominated that quarter
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: in particular, you had the ball the entire time, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: yet you still find yourself on the losing end. So
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: it's a It was a good game and definitely the
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: matchup of McVeigh versus McDonald lived up to the hype.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Wait for the rematch.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for the analysis from our experts, which
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: is coming your way. Let's find out what's on tap?
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: What's on tep, what's on tap?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: All right? Rams do win over the Seahawks twenty one
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to nineteen, so they take an essence a game and
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a half lead in the NFC West seven and three.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Seahawks will next play at Tennessee against the worst team
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: in the National Football their trap game. That will be
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: next Sunday, so you better bring it. Grace Zabel left
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: this game with an injury, and it did not look good,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: and that is not a guy you want to lose.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: So we'll get an update from Greg Bell at seven
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: oh five, and then at eight o'clock Hugh Millan will
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: join us with Monday Morning Quarterback Today. Mike Homem gonna
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: be with us at nine o'clock. So we've got two
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: and a half plus hours of analysis of yesterday's lost
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to the Los Angeles Rams. The Philadelphia Eagles won over
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Detroit sixteen to nine late last night. Big controversial play
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: at the end, a pass interference which denied Detroit getting
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the ball back and a chance to tie the game,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: maybe even win the game the way that Dan Campbell
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: calls things, and instead it's a Philadelphia victory. Something we'll
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: talk to Gene Sterator about tomorrow. But we've got your
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: entire scoreboard coming up at six point thirty with cold
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: turkey sandwich aboard of scores. U dub gets back on
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the winning track forty nine thirteen blowout win over Purdue Saturday,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: But the big upset. The big talking point in college
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: football Saturday was Oklahoma upsetting Alabama. Oklahoma's jumped them in
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the APE poll. They're up to eight. Alabama fell six
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: spots all the way down to number ten. Ohio State
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: is still ranked number one. We'll certainly talk more college
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: football tomorrow. Kraken have one two straight, including four to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: one over San Jose Saturday night in front of Ashley Ryan.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: They will play tomorrow at Detroit against the fighting Everett
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Fitzhughes and Josh Naylor, which we will find time to
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: talk about today, but certainly designate it for more time tomorrow.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: If you haven't heard great news Mariner fans. The first
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: free agent to sign this offseason, like legit free agent
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: is Josh Naylor, and he has decided to re sign
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: with the Seattle Mariners, a five year deal estimation between
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: ninety and one hundred million dollars. He has to pass
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: a physical today, but when you re sign with your
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: own team, they kind of know, Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: They know what they're dealing with.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't think that would be any kind
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of a hurdle to have to clear. But today we
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: should finalize the Josh Naylor deal. He's going to remain.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: A Seattle Mariner analysis coming your way later on in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the show. And finally, sad news, Kenny easily passed away
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: over the weekend and one of the all time great
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: players in NFL history, certainly one of the all time
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: great Seahawks. And so he left us too early. So
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Kenny easily one of the great Seahawks passing away over
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the weekend. All right, we'll get to a lot today.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, cold Turkey sandwich. A board of scores
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: on Chucking Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: Donald given time off his back, fuck gets intercepted. It's
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: Cameron Kinchins who made his name against Seattle last year.
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: Stretch play. Williams has a scene in More Cuts It
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: back Hensithe to ten inside the five, first and goal
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: at the one. Stafford has Adams. This time it's a touchdown.
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: Donald hit as he throws, it flutters and it's picks.
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: It's the Rent with the interception. Here's the fad looking
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: downfield for Smith and Jack Bob who plucked it with
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: one hand.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Jay S n second and ten.
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: There's Nikua paul is out. It is recovered by Seattle
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: Kirsten twenty. Donald zips one and it's a start interception.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Kitchens with his second.
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: Of the day.
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: Donald in trouble jump throw intercepted for the third time.
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: It's Walker.
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: It is a touchdown, the first of the day for
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks finally find the end zone. It's a one
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: score game with two twenty three to play. Shaheed watches
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: it bouts inside the five and out of bounds inside
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: the one. Wow eighth and Evans there's no way he's
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: ever made a better punt.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Tod Focks Television, Joe Davis and we can tell you
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: who you're rooting for. La Boy on the call there
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: with Greg Olsen yesterday. A lot of highlights, very good
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: entertaining football game. Unfortunately, Sam Darnold committed four turnovers in
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the contest, and that certainly was the difference in the game,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: as the Rams win twenty one to nineteen over the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Seahawks in Los Angeles. Despite the fact that the Seahawks
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: had one hundred and forty nine more passing yards, had
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: twenty six first downs to their twelve, possessed the ball
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: for almost twice the amount of time that the Rams did.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: It was La that converted on fourth downs where Seahawks
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: were settling for field goals, and it's the Rams that
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: commit to or create four interceptions against Sam Darneld. The
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: difference in the game twenty one to nineteen, and it's
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the Rams who are now first place in the NFC
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: West by a game and if you count the tiebreaker
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: over the Seahawks right now, a game and a half.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: We'll be talking about it a lot for the rest
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of the show today. Good morning, Welcome in. It is
• 24:34
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• 24:36
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• 24:43
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• 24:50
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• 24:53
  Speaker 2: us an update on Gray Zabel's injury. He left the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: game and did not look good. We'll find out more
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: from Greg here in a matter of moments. College football
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: u doub over Purdue Saturday, forty nine to thirteen. It
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: was a laugher. Kracking have won two straight, including a
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: four to one win over the Baby Sharks of San
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Jose on Saturday night. They'll play tomorrow in Detroit against
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the Red Wings, and Josh Naylor is back. He is
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: going to make it official today, it sounds like he
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: will sign a five year contract with the Seattle Mariners,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the first major free agent to sign in the offseason,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and he's decided to re sign with the city that
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he fell so deeply in love with over the last
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: couple of months. Josh Naylor will be back at first
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: base for the Mariners this year and for five years
• 25:40
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• 25:44
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, Ashley, why do you know so much more than
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  Speaker 9: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 5: It's wine. You know football?
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  Speaker 11: My point is why is that being sponsored by this company?
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  Speaker 11: I own nothing about what the products are.
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  Speaker 5: We're here to educate.
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• 27:05
  Speaker 12: Yeah, that wouldn't mine, That wouldn't mine.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously there was no bubbly in the in the
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Seahawks locker room after a twenty one to nineteen loss
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: where they lost the turnover battle four to one. What
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: was the mode? What was the theme amongst coaches and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: players after that loss yesterday?
• 27:24
  Speaker 11: Well, you know what, despite what fans may want him
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: to have been, they were not laying on the floor
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: in misery and pain and wailing and the sky was falling.
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: They had a pretty good handle on what the Rams did,
• 27:38
  Speaker 11: both offensively and defensively. They felt, especially on defense, that
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: They did what no other team in the league has
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: done with Matthew Stafford and mcveigh's offense.
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: So far this.
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: Season, the Rams had beaten four consecutive teams by fourteen
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: or more points. Stafford had become the first quarterback in
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: the NFL to throw for four plus touchdown passes and
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: no interceptions in three consecutive games.
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: And all that ended this.
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: The only reason the Rams scored twenty one points was
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: that McDonald handed them two of their three touchdowns.
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: They handed it to.
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: Them with interceptions that gave the Rams two drive starts
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: for touchdowns. First two touchdowns well not to two of
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: the three touchdowns were three yards and twenty five yards,
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: so and even then the Seahawks defense a couple times
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: more turned the Rams away. So when I talked to
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: Leonard Williams and ten and will Sue and the guys
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: on the defensive side, Williams just fight out to said,
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: I can't wait to see these guys again. Mike McDonald
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: offered unsolicited, We're gonna see these guys a lot, maybe
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: a third time, meaning in the playoff matchup.
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: And they were welcoming that they thought over the hole,
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: that they.
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: Played well enough to win that game. But when your
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: quarterback throws four interceptions into tight coverage and it's looked
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: fooled by what the Rams are doing, and we can
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: get into.
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: That when I talk to Cooper Cup about it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: That's the difference Donald flop in his biggest game yet
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: for the Seahawks, And it leaves questions of one, who
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: is the real Sam Donald when the games are big
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: and the teams are good.
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: And who are these Seahawks?
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: They still have not beaten any top seventeen, the playoff
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: caliber team in the NFC. They still are behind the
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: Rams and the forty nine Ers, who they both lost
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: to this season. They're still down the pecking order in
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: the NFC West until further notice. And that's really the
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: most damning thing that came out of yesterday.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Gee, what was the reason behind the picks? I mean,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: sometimes you just have an errand throw. To me, it
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: felt like there was an extra hitch or just a
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: delay in getting the ball to the guy that he
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: chose to throw it to that allowed the guys to
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: kind of jump in front of at least a couple
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of those picks. And so did he give any explanation
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: or did you see any reason why why those were happening.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just you know, horrible throws. It was kind
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: of bad decision or late decision.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: What was it to you, Well, a.
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: Couple things Bucky won on the fourth interception. We got
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: to parse them all because there were a few. The
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: fourth interception, down twenty one to twelve in the fourth quarter,
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: they were on the edge of field goal range.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: It's third down.
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: It's going to be a fifty plus yard field goal.
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: Myers had just made a fifty seven yard of the
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: same end. That was on Donald's mind when he got
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: pressured up the middle and he stepped up and he
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: tried to jump past to Elijah Royo, and Donald was
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: trying to avoid the loss of five six yards there
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: that would have pushed them out of field goal range
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: and caused them either go for a fourth and long
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: or have to punt and lose a chance of making
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: a one score game again. He said he was thinking
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: about that, so when he jumped past.
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: It it advisedly.
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: He said, he saw a defender in his face, so
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: he couldn't see the defensive back behind the defensive lineman
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: who was standing right in front.
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: Of a royal to intercept that pass, so.
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: He just never saw the guy. Cooper Cup after the
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: game explained that the Rams did a really good job
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: of switching their safety alignments from at the snap to
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: post snap. They were doing a heavy box eight man
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: in the box with the safety down near the line
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: of scrimmage to combat the Seahawks run, and then at
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: the snap off and they ran out in that second safety.
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: Often Kitchens, who intercepted Donald twice, ran from down in
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: the box out to a double high cover two look
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: with two safeties deep. So the Seahawks were running routes
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: and Donald was making reads that he thought was single
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: high coverage when in fact it was too deep. And
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: two of his four interceptions are directly to Kinchins in
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: the middle of the field, one of those safeties who
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: had been moved around the snap. So credit Chris Shuller indirectly,
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: that's what Cooper Cup said. Credit the Rams, he said,
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: but Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator for tricking Donald.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: I asked Donald specifically after the.
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: Game about that, the switching of safeties, and he said, yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: they did that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: They did a good job of.
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: Disguising their shell, meaning two safeties deep. But he said
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: a lot of teams in the league do that, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: that he has to be better playing and simple with
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: taking care of the ball and making decisions and seeing
• 32:04
  Speaker 11: all that. But so fights to say he got tricked,
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: and no NFL quarterback is going to directly throw the
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: ball to four guys in coveries or four interceptions unless
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: he doesn't quite understand what's going on in the coverages.
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: As he's saying.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Creig Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider. I'll play
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: off in a little bit because that narrative about who
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: is the real Sam Donald was starting even before the game,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and I heard Mike McDonald say afterwards, like, hey, we
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: like the way that he let it rip. I mean,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: he made mistakes, he cost them the game with their
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: four interceptions. But I don't know if I ever saw
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: his confidence waiver all the way up to the last drive,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: he was still just letting it rip. I saw that
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: as encouraging. I don't I don't come away from that
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: loss like, oh, Sam Donald can't win the big game,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald can't beat the Rams. I just I just
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: can't forget what happened leading up to Sunday. I still
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: like that Sam Arnold is the Seahawks quarterback Greg.
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: Well.
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: I hope so, because that's what he's got they've got
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: for the next Yeah, in six games, at least.
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: I did.
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: I did see a little bit of frustration that I
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: haven't seen in Donald yet yesterday through the binoculars after
• 33:17
  Speaker 11: the interceptions, while the Rams are celebrating and the pyro technics
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: are going off in the Rams house and all that,
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: I put my binoculars on the.
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: Quarterback to see what his reaction was, because.
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: He's been renowned around the locker room for how steady
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: and poise. He's been come hell or high water, good
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: or bad both. After the third interception and after the
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: fourth interception, he walked straight to the sideline. He went
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: straight to the bench. Then he ripped his helmet off,
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: snapped his chin strap off pretty violently, and then slammed
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: his helmet at the top of the bench where the
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: little knobs are at the top for the where.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: The helmets go. He normally doesn't do that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: Liutenant Wolsu walked up to him after the third interception.
• 33:53
  Speaker 9: So I asked Hm.
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: Wolsu in the locker room after the game, would you
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: say to him? And he said that we still got you.
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: You got to see you were playing great all season.
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: We're built for this. Weils just said we'll be fine,
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: We'll come back from this. You're one of us, we're brothers.
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: Here even more colorfully after the game and Ernest Jones,
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: I don't know if you caught that. Yeah, it's not great,
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: and we can't the SEC won't let us forbade him
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: quote down, but he said that anyone who wants to
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: He said that Donald has kept us in every freaking
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: he didn't say freaking game this season. And anyone that
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: wants to say anything about Sam Donald for throwing foreig
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: interceptions blank you yeah, Live radio, my.
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: Television from Los Angeles yesterday, I thought they appears with
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: the Seahawks. Guy was gonna just yake him off the
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: stage with the team and walk right out. But they
• 34:47
  Speaker 12: wanted to be and Jones purposely used such colorful language.
• 34:51
  Speaker 12: They wanted to be clear that they are going to
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: support Donald and have his back because they have to.
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: He's their quarterback and they're not changing it. But also
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: because he has earned cachet with them, and up until
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: this point he wasn't any.
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: Of what he was yesterday. So the Seahawks have to
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: go with that rather than yesterday. They can't say, well,
• 35:10
  Speaker 11: this is the guy. We're thinking this guy every time
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: the game's good, tough. They're going to rally around him
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: for the next six games, and frankly, he's probably going
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: to play great and they're probably going to boat race
• 35:19
  Speaker 11: the Titans in Tennessee. Titans are one and nine on
• 35:22
  Speaker 11: Sunday and they'll be eight and three. So the bigger picture,
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: as Jones said, was we turned the ball over four
• 35:29
  Speaker 11: times and lost by two points to the first place
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: team in the NFC. We're going to be okay, is
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: what he basically said. They just have to fix the turnovers.
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: Darnold now is tied for the NFL with two Ittiglers
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: lay with fourteen interceptions, fourteen turnovers ten ten interceptions and
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: four fumbles. We talked about this guys that he was
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: the problem with ball security was a real haunting one,
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: and now he's leading the league in turnovers. That's yeah,
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: that has to change.
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: Ye.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: What was the deal with the kind of the red
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: zone deficiency?
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: If you will.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I mean they got down there a few times, they
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: controlled the clock, and I'm sure that they all felt
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: good about the way they moved the ball against a
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: tough Rams team, and yet they get down there in
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the red zone and you know, ended up having to
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: settle for a like four field goal. So what did
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: they do wrong down there or was it just a
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: tip your cap to a good defense.
• 36:22
  Speaker 9: Well, they screwed up.
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: I mean, they played the end of the first half perfectly.
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: They had the ball.
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: Come out of the second half, they're trying to do
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: the two for one. They took up seven minutes and
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: forty seven seconds the last seven to forty seven of
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: the second quarter with that drive fifteen play drive eighty
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: nine yards all the way down there, and then they
• 36:39
  Speaker 11: had kicking a field goal.
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: So that was not by design.
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: They were not supposed to be down fourteen to nine
• 36:45
  Speaker 11: at the half. After using it, they used all but
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: thirteen seconds of the second quarter clock of possession. The
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: Rams only had three plays for thirteen seconds in the
• 36:53
  Speaker 11: second quarter when they were about ready to blow the
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: game open up fourteen to three. So the Seahawks righted themselves.
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: But when they did that, they only had two field
• 37:01
  Speaker 11: goals out of those two fifteen and thirteen play drives
• 37:04
  Speaker 11: into the red zone. That's where they lost the game.
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: Pragmatically even before the Feig interception and then Donald's four
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: interceptions killed him. But if you get touchdowns there, of course,
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: that's eight points you needed in a two point loss.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: Threes instead of sevens twice, that's eight points. I thought,
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: I think still, and I say it during the game
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: to myself and the guys next to me in the
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: press box, that Kenneth Walker should be the short yard
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: or the goal line back to me, Zach Charboney runs
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: straight into the assigned hole or to the where he's
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: trying to get to, no matter how many guys are
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: standing in front of him.
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: When he gets the ball.
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: Walker makes that first guy, often makes that first guy miss.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: He had a really good.
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: Run in the second half in the red zone by
• 37:48
  Speaker 11: doing exactly that. He had ninety one staring at his
• 37:51
  Speaker 11: face when he got the handoff, and he juked him
• 37:53
  Speaker 11: outside of the right and turned what should have been
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: a five yard loss into a six or seven yard
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: game down to the goal line.
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: I'd keep Walker in for those plays.
• 38:03
  Speaker 11: It just seems like that's the more he can turn
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: something nothing in something far more than Sharvening was. That
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: was one problem, and then the Rams just had better
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: coverage when they did have to go to the run,
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: because I thought they limited themselves with running plays with
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: sharpening instead of Walker.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be critical of the usage the way Walker
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: was used throughout the game. I think they went to
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: him consistently too late in the game. But that's a
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: topic for another time. So many other topics. I got
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: a million different things I want to ask you about,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: but I got to use my last minute and a
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: half to find out what's going on with Grey's Abel
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: because I'm happy to give away a loss here if
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a Seahawk fan. If I find out today the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Grey's Abel's going to be all right.
• 38:44
  Speaker 9: Well, they don't know that yet.
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: He's getting imaging today, which means MRIs and to see
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: if there's structural damage in his knee.
• 38:51
  Speaker 9: I will say this, as tough.
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: As that guy is, bush Light South Dakota hasn't been
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: beaten for a sackle all year, trash talker and all
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: pro Hall of famers, all of that. To see him
• 39:03
  Speaker 11: on two knees with his face mask straight in the
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: turf as Kenneth Walker was running the end zone told
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: me that he's pretty hurt, and then he needed help
• 39:12
  Speaker 11: with two not one, but two assistants to shuffle into
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: the sideline. He got into the Blue ten and then
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: got taken straight into the locker room. It's a knee
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: injury of unknown severity. McDonald said on his way u
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: up La yesterday evening. I mean we're going to quizz
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: more this afternoon on that, but it didn't look great.
• 39:31
  Speaker 11: Christian Haynes came in. He had just been activated off
• 39:34
  Speaker 11: the injured reserve list on Saturday. He's a backup guard
• 39:38
  Speaker 11: that came in on Sunday. He would be the odds
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: on man to be the center, to be the left guard.
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: They are already missing Jalen Sindell, whom they put on
• 39:47
  Speaker 11: injured reserve on Saturday to make roster room four Haynes.
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: So now all of a sudden, this offensive line that
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: had been so good at protecting Donald is missing two
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: of its five starters.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's rough. All right, man. Well, there, like I said,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: a million other things to discuss. We'll have to dive
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: into those on tomorrow's program. Get some sleep. Thank you
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: very much, We appreciate you, and we'll talk to you then.
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: Okay, Happy Monday, all right, Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 9: All right?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Factor Fiction with Bucky at seven thirty five. Coming up
• 40:56
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• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Bucky's pick today, so we'll get to that here in
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: a moment. Of course, we do have Seahawks on the brain.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: A loss yesterday to the Los Angeles Rams twenty one
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: to nineteen. We will resume our analysis of this game
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: coming up at seven forty five, we'll hear from Mike
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: McDonald and then of course eight o'clock Monday morning quarterback
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: gets underway. Hugh Millan will be under center. Mike Holgeran
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: will join the conversation at nine o'clock. So much to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: break down, so we'll do it for two straight hours
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: starting at eight o'clock. But we have monster baseball news
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: today as well that we are dealing with. If you
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: haven't heard, I got good news everybody. That is good news.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor last night looks like he's gonna be the
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: first major free agent to come to terms with a team,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: and it's going to be with our team. Naylor apparently
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: as agreed to a five year contract that we don't
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: know exactly the dollar figures suggest yet my guess is
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: it's between ninety and one hundred million dollars. That seems
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to be the educated guests that's floating around out there.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that later on today he
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: should come to terms, make it official, sign the document,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and remain a Mariner for the next five seasons. And
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I know that makes everybody happy.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: That is good to use.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Like you said, I mean, if they hadn't done this.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: It's not like the offseason wouldn't have couldn't have still
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: been a success, but this was most certainly the hallmark,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: the hallmark move that they needed to make. We can say, okay, Geno.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love Geno as a dude, a clubhouse guy,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: and I love the fact that he can, you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: hit forty fifty home runs for you. But I also
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: don't think it's a necessity that you bring him back.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I think you could. You could roll with Ben Williamson
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: to see how that turns out. You could possibly do
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: something else over there, But to me, it was first base.
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: You didn't have anybody waiting in the wings. You don't.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: There isn't somebody that's like Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor's not
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: going to do Aaron Judgy and things, Well, nobody is.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's not going to be the best.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Him steal them from Cown.
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's definitely not going to do that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, garbage, he's not.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: He's not this crazy, over the top stat guy. But
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: he's just a ballplayer. I mean, the way that he
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: plays the game is something that you need. I mean,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I genuinely think that the best teams out there, you
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: have to have at least one guy like this, if
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: not a full lineup full of them. So I mean,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: if they can figure out a way to get this
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: thing done, which it sounds like it is pretty much
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: done to you, Oh that's great news.
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: I told my wife last night. She was super pumped.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I remember when the trade went down and
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: saw to have me on and Hugh happened to be
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: co hosting with him that day. And I've referenced this
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: a couple of times, but I think it's relevant to
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: bring up again today. And Hugh asked about the possibility
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: of a long term deal. And when you don't watch
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Josh Naylor, but you know of Josh and you see
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: him here and there, you play him against them in
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: a series, and you see there's RBI run production. You
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: see the energy that he plays with, the focus that
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: he plays with, but you don't appreciate it until you
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: get to see the guy every single day. So my
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: reaction was, yeah, he's got kind of a bad body.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they brought him here necessarily to
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: keep him long term. I think it is to use
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: him for the stretch drive, which they certainly did. But
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: then once you're around him every day. I mean, you
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: realize everything that he brings to the table, and how
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: you don't even care if he has a bad body
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: because he's one of the slowest runners in the league
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and stole thirty bases this year. He did not get
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: caught stealing in a Mariner uniform. Had like twenty stolen
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: bases in two months for us. The footwork at first base,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: he's like a ballet dancer over there at first base
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: to make sure the feet are in the right place.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: He saved a lot of arrant throws down the stretch.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: And so he doesn't need to be the greatest athlete
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: in the world. He doesn't need to have the best
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: body in the world, not when you play as smart
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: as he plays. So at the time, I didn't think
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: that it was important that he signed long term when
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: we made that trade, just as long as he's here
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five and can get us into the
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: playoffs and give us a run at the World Series.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: But after you were exposed to him for just a
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: few games, you're like, no, we got to keep this guy.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: This guy's got to be a long term commitment.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing about the way in which this guy
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: plays that you can't like if you're a fan of baseball.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the term a baseball player or
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: a ballplayer that is kind of the best pad on
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: the back that you can get. And I mean it's
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: even before we had him, I was like, that's what
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: you need. I mean, I've watched just about every single
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: pitch of this Mariners team for the last better part
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: of this decade, and yet it's grit is one of
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: the things that I think it has lacked.
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: And I think that this guy brings that, I mean
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: in full.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah grit and flash last years dresser and yet the
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: grittiest guy on the team.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: It's a great combo. It's a very rare come yeah
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: because he's different.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't happen a lot, and he's ours for the
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: next five years and we couldn't be happier. Let's play
• 46:33
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• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Right, how'd we do this week?
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: Three and two?
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll take that. Yeah they Cincinnati, Yeah, we'll
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: take the We'll take a three pick on the Broncos game.
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: Thanks, that tastes dick.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got mocked by the afternoon.
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: Actually doesn't know enough about it. Yeah, you don't know, right.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: That's right, you mock me, that's right. I'll call up the.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: Broncos straight up against Ashley's pick.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Nice on the same day too.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: So we all got one right this week we did.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Bluckey was one and oh so uh he picks twice
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: this week, which means he's up today. So where are
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: we gonna go with today's factor fiction?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I basically I go with who's playing a crap team?
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: And a crap team is the Cardinals. Now they're going
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: against the Jaguars. Jaguars could also be crap on any
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: given week, but it's a point and a half. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: don't mind laying a point and a half at the
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Cardinals feet. I think us as well as Brissette's been playing.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars are a team that they get
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: after the quarterback, which forces turnovers. It makes it ann
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: comfortable day, if they show up and play the way
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: that they're capable of, I think they kind of recognize
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: that if they want to win this thing or get
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: into the playoffs, it's time to go.
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: And I think they'll do it against Cardinals.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm taking the Jaguars minus one and a half
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: at the Cardinals.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: The Jaguars are like that buddy you had in high
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: school where he's constantly like getting into trouble and you're
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: having to like apologize for him, and then after a
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: couple of months, you're like, see, I think he's turned
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: a new corner. He's fine, he's really grown up, he's
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: learned a lot of lessons. And then you get a
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: call at late night and he's robbed a bank. That's
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars for you. I mean, you want to like them,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: you want to believe that they've turned the corner, and
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: maybe they have this time, but you just can't trust them.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I don't necessarily trust them, but it's only
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: a point and a half.
• 48:48
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  Speaker 2: with you here on this Monday as we react along
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  Speaker 2: with our experts to yesterday's twenty one nineteen loss in
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles to the Rams. The Seahawks bad day for
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold. Four interceptions in the game. We highlighted or
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: lowlighted those in our first segment with our QB one,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Hugh Millan. But I do want to highlight something here, Hugh.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I do want to get your take because I thought,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: and maybe maybe I'm, you know, drinking the kool aid.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm the local that's given the local head coach
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: too much credit. But I thought Mike McDonald sort of
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: confused Matt Stafford, who's one of the toughest guys to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: confuse in the National Football League. I mean, other than
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: handing him seven points in the first quarter and then
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: they had one touchdown drive, the entire game felt to
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: me like Matt Stafford was given up on an awful
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: lot of plays because he just had nowhere to throw.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: How did you see it? Yeah, that's exactly how I
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: saw it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 13: I think that we've talked a lot about how Mike
• 52:33
  Speaker 13: McDonald was brought into battle, you know, on a chess
• 52:38
  Speaker 13: board with Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, and we're talking
• 52:42
  Speaker 13: about the Rams today and I'll just say this, Mike
• 52:46
  Speaker 13: McDonald is winning those matchups. And if you don't agree
• 52:49
  Speaker 13: with me, we're gonna have to meet under a freeway
• 52:52
  Speaker 13: behind the railroad tracks, and only one of us is
• 52:54
  Speaker 13: coming out alive. And I'm not saying it's gonna be me,
• 52:56
  Speaker 13: but you're you're you're gonna have blood either way, because
• 53:00
  Speaker 13: if you look at that Matthew Stafford in the last
• 53:03
  Speaker 13: two years, he's gone against twenty head coaches, and.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: His completion percentage.
• 53:10
  Speaker 13: Against Mike McDonald's fifty three and a half percent that's
• 53:13
  Speaker 13: twentieth out of twentieth. His yards per tempt five point one,
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: twentieth out of twenty coaches. Okay, yards per game one
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: hundred and seventy four, that's eighteenth, third down conversions fifteen
• 53:26
  Speaker 13: point eight percent, eighteenth, passer rating nineteenth. So uh, and
• 53:31
  Speaker 13: then you know similar numbers for Sean McVay if you
• 53:35
  Speaker 13: if you throw out the JV game that in Week eighteen,
• 53:39
  Speaker 13: that nobody had any but anything to play for last year.
• 53:42
  Speaker 13: So there's been two matchups. Remember now, last year in Seattle,
• 53:46
  Speaker 13: the in regulation, the Rams only scored thirteen points against
• 53:49
  Speaker 13: the defense. It was Gino Smith game up one hundred
• 53:52
  Speaker 13: and six yard pick six, and essentially that's what you
• 53:55
  Speaker 13: saw yesterday with the pick down to the three yard line.
• 53:59
  Speaker 13: And so there was just thirteen points last year. So
• 54:03
  Speaker 13: Sean McVay, if we're going coaching matchups, you've got if
• 54:09
  Speaker 13: you just following upon or a kickoff, if you if
• 54:13
  Speaker 13: you can just do that, you have the Seahawks only
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: allowing one point one eight points per drive. That's eighteenth
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: ou twenty's that's less than half of what the forty
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: nine ers give up for a fifty yard field or more.
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: If the Seahawk defense has a half a field or
• 54:34
  Speaker 13: more to defend, they are only allowing to the Rams
• 54:38
  Speaker 13: one point five points per drive. Again, that's eighteen and
• 54:41
  Speaker 13: the only one who did better was in a weird
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: game an Tony Pierce with the head coach of the Raiders.
• 54:46
  Speaker 13: So I promise you Matthew Stafford wants no part of
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: Mike McDonald and Sean McVay.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Is is that rascal? Holy cow?
• 54:56
  Speaker 13: So, yeah, there was a matchup. It was big time,
• 54:58
  Speaker 13: it was anticipated, it was discussed. We've seen two of
• 55:01
  Speaker 13: them now, and you know, but for the offense given
• 55:05
  Speaker 13: a three point field, excuse me, a three yard field
• 55:09
  Speaker 13: and a twenty five yard field, there's only one long touchdown,
• 55:12
  Speaker 13: you know.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: So I see it exactly the way you do.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Early on the broadcast was harping on the idea of
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: McVeigh has switched some stuff up with their personnel, their
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: thirteen personnel where they were instead of spreading it out
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: the way that he did when he first came into
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: the league and was getting all the accolades he was
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: that he had done some stuff and it did look
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: like it was working. Did you see some sort of
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: adjustment that McDonald made to where it was pretty much
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: non existent or it wasn't working the same the rest
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: of the way.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, well, first of all, going into the game of
• 55:45
  Speaker 13: the last three games, the Rams, the NFL average is
• 55:51
  Speaker 13: you get twelve yards per game out of thirteen personnel.
• 55:55
  Speaker 13: The second place team was fifty yards per game. The
• 56:00
  Speaker 13: Rams were first at one hundred and sixty yards per
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: game out of thirteen personnel.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: So what did what happened? What happened yesterday?
• 56:11
  Speaker 13: They had eighteen plays forty nine yards two point seven
• 56:16
  Speaker 13: yards per play. And in the passing game, where excuse me,
• 56:24
  Speaker 13: where Stafford had had eight touchdowns in the last three games.
• 56:28
  Speaker 13: In that Stafford goes three for six for four yards.
• 56:34
  Speaker 13: Now he did get a touchdown out of that group,
• 56:36
  Speaker 13: but again four yards in the passing game. So what
• 56:41
  Speaker 13: you saw there was a mixture of nickel and dime.
• 56:46
  Speaker 13: And certainly they're not going to play dime against the
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: thirteen personnel. Thirteen for those who don't know, that's one
• 56:52
  Speaker 13: running back, three tight ends, and one receiver. And so
• 56:56
  Speaker 13: you've got guys like Emon Worry who you know, he's
• 57:01
  Speaker 13: he's got the length. Even though he's a dB, he
• 57:04
  Speaker 13: can he can run and Olcatta's coming down heel. The
• 57:08
  Speaker 13: safeties were really firing hard and kind of almost disavowing
• 57:12
  Speaker 13: play action, saying, screw that you had. Ernest Jones had
• 57:16
  Speaker 13: had on two long runs, he had got out.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Of a gap on a lead.
• 57:21
  Speaker 13: He was supposed to be in the B gap on
• 57:23
  Speaker 13: the inside edge of the B gap because Emon Warrey
• 57:25
  Speaker 13: was on the outside. So they gave up thirty something
• 57:28
  Speaker 13: yards on that run. And then on a stretch play
• 57:32
  Speaker 13: where he was in the same gap with Leonard Williams,
• 57:36
  Speaker 13: he should have been in a C gap one gap over.
• 57:38
  Speaker 13: He admitted it. It's clear on the tape. But then
• 57:41
  Speaker 13: all of a sudden they just button that up. And
• 57:43
  Speaker 13: then they had been hurt by tight end screens in
• 57:46
  Speaker 13: the first quarter, and now you literally see the first
• 57:49
  Speaker 13: play of the second quarter, Okata just he literally throws
• 57:52
  Speaker 13: to the ground on the of the intended tight end.
• 57:55
  Speaker 13: He just not throws him because that would have been illegal,
• 57:57
  Speaker 13: but but just jacksonim and the dude falls down there,
• 58:00
  Speaker 13: just totally ready for it. So everything that they had
• 58:02
  Speaker 13: seen in the first quarter and that had burned them,
• 58:05
  Speaker 13: they made the adjustments. They played more man and man
• 58:08
  Speaker 13: for a while. They were more active in the set
• 58:11
  Speaker 13: in from second quarter beyond in terms of the pressures
• 58:15
  Speaker 13: that they were bringing the simulated pressures. And what I
• 58:18
  Speaker 13: really like, because we discussed it last week, is that
• 58:21
  Speaker 13: I liked that they were coming off of Matthew Stafford's
• 58:24
  Speaker 13: right side as a right handed.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Quarterback, which causes him to go to his left. That's
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: a win.
• 58:28
  Speaker 13: There's been times I go, oh, coach McDonald, that is
• 58:31
  Speaker 13: such a beautiful blitz.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Why are you doing it from the left side.
• 58:34
  Speaker 13: Because now we just lost contain a right handed quarterback
• 58:36
  Speaker 13: got ran away from it and was able to get
• 58:38
  Speaker 13: a completion and a conversion. And so I thought that that,
• 58:42
  Speaker 13: you know, just in every way that I mean the
• 58:44
  Speaker 13: numbers I gave him to you.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: You saw the tape, the.
• 58:49
  Speaker 13: Idea that you could take a team at rioting as
• 58:52
  Speaker 13: high as the rams and you could be that damn
• 58:56
  Speaker 13: close after having four interceptions. It's a testimony to the
• 59:00
  Speaker 13: rest of the football team. It's a testimony in the
• 59:02
  Speaker 13: defense and the scheming of it. And so I don't know, yah, yeah,
• 59:09
  Speaker 13: just unfortunate, but also a lot to like.
• 59:11
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• 59:13
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, we're disappointed, but it's very clear to me that
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: we have a great team and we're gonna learn to
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: win games like that, and we're gonna learn from you know, weeks.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: Like this and all that.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: I mean again, we're really we're young. You know, you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: got you know, a young head coach or whatever like that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: I'm learning how to how to prepare our teams from
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: week to week, you know. So we're all learning, we're
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: all learning, we're all growing. I actually think it's like
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: a competitive advantage for us as we start to grows,
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  Speaker 4: we are willing to grow and involved.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: We're doing to coach job, Mike, give it up, Mike.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: I'm with you, Mike, great job, coach your job, Coot,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: keep it up.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 9: Hang in there, Buck, you're my boy.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Book, Uh Chuck Buck Ashley with you, of course. So
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: we've got our experts on hand here on a Monday morning.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: We've got Mike Homer, We've got Hugh Millen with us
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: as we react to a twenty one nineteen loss to
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams. But along those lines of believing
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: in Mike McDonald coach, uh Man, I just thought I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: saw Matt Stafford look confused this season for the first
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: time in any game. And I think Mike McDonald deserves
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of credit for that. They had one yard
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: in the second quarter of the Rams. He had one
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty passing yards for the games, and he
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: didn't make the same mistakes that Sam Darnold made in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: giving the ball up, which credit to him. But I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: thought I saw a defensive coach that the Seahawks had
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: just sort of out thinking Matt Stafford yesterday. What did
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: you see?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: That's exactly where I saw, Chuck. I mean, because Matt
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: Stafford's really a good player. I mean, he's played a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: long time. You can't fool him too much. But the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: defense give them credit and as a result, you give
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: your head coach who is the defensive guy credit that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: he made life miserable for Matt and the Rams have
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: a good offensive team, and no, that's exactly what happened.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: So if you want to take something away from the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: game in a very positive way, that's one of the things.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: Because if he can do that to Matt Stafford, their
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: defense can do that to most quarterbacks in the league.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: And then you have to eliminate you have to eliminate
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: the mistakes you made.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 13: Sorry, Mike, were you more impressed by how they defended
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 13: Stafford on his own side the line of scrimmage, meaning
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 13: how they they rushed him, how they blitzed him, stunded him,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 13: or did you find yourself more impressed with the covers
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 13: on the Seahawks side the line of scrimmage?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 9: Well?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: I think both things. I think that the defense you
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: play the Seahawks, you're going to the quarterback is going
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: to have pressure. So you have to be able to know,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: even against a great offense line, you're going to be
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: able that they have shown the ability through different ways
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: to get to the quarterback. So then you have to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: have the quarterback prepared to throw the ball correctly and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: to maybe drop it off get him out of his
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: you know, his spot there. But you saw what you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: saw yesterday. What I saw was that he's a really
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: good passer. But there were two or three, maybe even
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: four or five throws where he just missed the throw.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 7: It was short, it was wide. You know, it wasn't
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: a good throw. And he's a good quarterback. So how
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: does that happen. It's a combination of the pass rush
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: and their secondary is good, and they're doing all this
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: without love you know who, and which I think went.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: I think he's one of their best players. So give
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: them credit. They did a great job that way, really
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: good enough to win that football game.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: I thought.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 13: You know, Mike, I think we can all remember that
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 13: deep in route, that dagger that DeVante Adams he tried
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 13: to reach back behind him and he dropped it, and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 13: the telecast really showed, you know, DeVante Adams was really
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 13: disappointed in himself.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 13: I tell you, when you watch the insin copy of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 13: that coach's tape. If you look at how Matthew Stafford,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 13: Mike is Stanning, how he threw that. He threw that
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 13: ball thirty one yards in the air, and he was
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 13: just standing and with Leonard Williams just absolutely cave in
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 13: his chest in He just kind of flicked it without
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 13: any rotation in his body, without his shoulder coming through.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 13: It was just like an arm like he was tossing
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 13: a I don't know, skipping rocks at a lake or something.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 13: And yet the ball just jumped thirty yards down the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 13: field almost perfectly accurrid it. It would have been better
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 13: to be a little bit in front. But but that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 13: guy's arm talent is just insane.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: Oh no, he's he's really special. And he's been special
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 7: a long time. You know, the stat always comes up
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: his all time records one fifteen wins, one fifteen losses,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: and he a, what's that? That's not very good? But
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: you know, think of the teams he's been with and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: all that kind of stuff. But here's another thing about
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: the secondary. You mentioned their secondary, our secondary, Delante Adams.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: I think he caught one ball yesterday, yep, I think,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: and that was the touchdown. And he's really he's really
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: a special player has been for a long time. So
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: if that happens in a game, you know, you know
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: they're doing some great things in the secondary.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean we've given a lot of flowers to
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: the team that ended up losing, and understandably, so I
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: don't think this guy is falling after the way they played.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I would want to ask coach the idea of I mean,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Kyrien Williams. They didn't really slow him down. I mean,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: he only carried the ball twelve times, but he averaged
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: seven point six yards of carry. Some of that skewed
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: because of that one big long run that he had,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: but he was fairly effective. Was there things you didn't
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: like about the stopping of the run game? Because you know,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: at the end of the of the game the press conference,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Ernest Jones kind of said, hey, you know, this ain't
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: all on the quarterback as much as a lot of
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  Speaker 3: it is. A lion's share of it's on those four interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: But he said, you know, we could have made some
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  Speaker 3: more defensive plays. We could have made some and that
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  Speaker 3: would be one of the only areas I could think
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  Speaker 3: that maybe defensively they weren't really on.
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  Speaker 2: Top of it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what. I applauded his comments about that.
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  Speaker 7: I read what he said in the paper today too,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and that shows yes to your point, Buck,
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  Speaker 7: I think they could have done a better job. I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: was surprised, honestly, the Rams didn't do that more. That
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: guy's a good running back, and to try and do
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: that more maybe take some of the pressure off Stafford.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that I think that's that's part
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  Speaker 7: of the defense there that they're going to have to
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  Speaker 7: against the team they chooses to run the ball and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: run the ball well. That they're going to have to solidify.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, in the second quarter, as an example,
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  Speaker 7: I think Chuck you alluded to it a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: They had the Rams had one yard and the Seahawks
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: had one hundred and twenty seven in the second old quarter,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: you know, so it was a different The Rams didn't
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: they didn't have the number of plays, They couldn't really
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: get going on offense the way they typically want to.
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  Speaker 7: And so yeah, there's there's very little, very little to
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  Speaker 7: pocals in the Seahawks defense, I think. But if you're
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  Speaker 7: gonna be sticky, that's one area that maybe they can
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  Speaker 7: show up just a little bit Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 13: You know, well, we're talking about Kyron Williams, the Rams
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  Speaker 13: leading running back. In the first quarter, he had six
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 13: attempts for seventy six yards, so's he's at twelve point
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 13: seven average. And we talked about how Ernest Jones had
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 13: been out of gaps and Kobe Bryant had mistackles on
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  Speaker 13: two of those long runs. But how about this, No
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  Speaker 13: he had They had no carries in the second quarter,
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  Speaker 13: like Mike what you're saying about the time of possession,
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  Speaker 13: and then for the third and fourth quarter he had
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  Speaker 13: six carries and he had fifteen yards. So they just
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  Speaker 13: you know, this is a constant theme with Mike McDonald
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 13: that you'll see him give up a long drive to
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  Speaker 13: start the game and then they just button it up.
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  Speaker 2: And no more indicated than yesterday. Mike Homrin, Hugh Millan
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  Speaker 2: with us here on Monday morning. Quarterback. Yeah, no doubt
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  Speaker 2: about it. I do want to ask both of you
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  Speaker 2: this question. Gray's Abel went down late in this game.
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  Speaker 2: He's been terrific in his rookie season. I think I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: would give the loss away if I found out today
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  Speaker 2: that Gray's Abel was okay and ready to go the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: rest of the year. But it might not be the case.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: So I'll start with you, coach, and then go to you, Hugh,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Just the how big of a loss that could potentially
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: be for a team that finally spent a first round
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: pick on an offensive lineman and that guy was just
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: performing so well, yeah, he really was.
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  Speaker 7: And if I don't know if you guys have heard
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: anything or we know anything about the injury, but if
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  Speaker 7: it keeps him out for any length of time, that's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: a big hit because he is You get an offensive
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: lineman and their offensive line is stuck together all season
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 7: so far. You start losing some people like their center,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: like like Zabel, you know, then all of a sudden
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 7: it changes you. You know, it's not the next it's
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: the next guy up. You want to say that, but
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: it changes. And so I'm hopeful, hoping for the best
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: for this young man. Have you guys heard anything about
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: it yet?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Just what Greg told us earlier that it doesn't look good,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: But they didn't, they didn't speculate afterwards. It just was
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there was a real positive feeling
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: afterwards that he's fine.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, if if they that would be a big hit.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: Dell and Mike has shown the team has shown real
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: resilience in handling injury situations, but it's still a big
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: hit when you lose alignment like that.
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  Speaker 13: You yeah, yeah, and I think it's compounded that you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 13: had this situation. You know, Sundel and Zabel had played
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 13: together as we all know, at North Dakota's eight and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 13: so they had this kind of you know, telepathy with
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 13: each other and they're both high IQ guys. Now with
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 13: the center, we don't know when Sundell's coming back, but Alua,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 13: Timmy and then the other part of it is Christian Haynes.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 13: He's been a right guard almost exclusively as a Sea
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 13: Hawk when when he was at Yukon he was right
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 13: guard for four years. So now Mike, he's going to
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 13: left guard. His reps at left guard it's probably, you know,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 13: for every fifty reps he has as a right guard
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: in his career, he's got no more than one, probably
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 13: more like one hundred to one, So that that can
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 13: be a challenge too, going over that left side.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, there's no question, and you know it kills me
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: when the well he's a right guard, left guard is
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 7: a guard. No you get used to playing on the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 7: right side with your hand a certain way, and foot
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: work a certain way. You have to move over the
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: left side. You can do it. You know, he's a big,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 7: strong offensive lineman. But it is different and there are
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: challenges and it's just not automatic.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, coming up on the other side, we
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: got one last thing for a coach. And you heard
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: him earlier. I think he pretty much said he was
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: going to rip the heart out of NFL officials. So yeah,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: talk about a cliffhanger. We're going to get the actual
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: result next sports something like that, something similar to that.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I might be embellishing a little bit here, coach,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: but anyway, we're going to get to that next on
• 1:11:28
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• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: what do you got for coach?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: Coach? Al Im Pressed?
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  Speaker 3: Are you with aj Barner big yesterday biggest game of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: his career as a professional. I mean it comes in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: a loss, but at the same time finding his way open.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: He seems to be more and more comfortable.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: And it's always a nice thing to have as an outlet,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: as a nice tight end that you feel comfortable that
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: they're going.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: To catch it.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know they came into this season,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: I think with a group of tight ends and someone
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: had they felt had to emerge, and he has done that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: And I personally think that is a huge part of
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 7: your passing game. I've always said that sometimes you don't
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: sometimes you get a blocking tight end. But this guy,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: I think can do it all. And let's take away
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 7: the touch push for a second, but I think as
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: a tight end that he's the real deal and he's
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: going to be good for.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: A long time.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Here what he got for coach? I would like to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: ask you, Mike.
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  Speaker 13: Of course we're getting new information every week, but give
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 13: us an update about how you feel about the running
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 13: backs for the Seahawks, And if you're coaching this team,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 13: would you be used using them the way you're what
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 13: you're seeing or would you be using them differently?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: And If so, how so I would I'd be using
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: Walker more.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: That's that's my takeaway from it. I think he's really
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 7: good and he you know, he's We've talked about this
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 7: before on the air. I think he's really good and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: he is good. But they've chosen I. Maybe it's a
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: health thing, maybe it's I don't know what the rationale is.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: I would ask Mike that if I saw him, you know,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: but uh, he Walker yesterday. You saw it on occasion
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: that he can bust things right away, he can change
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: the game for.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: You right away.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 7: And that's taking nothing away from Charbonnay. I think he's good,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 7: but he's the second guy, you know, and so I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: played the first guy more and you.
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  Speaker 13: Know, Mike, Just to put that into context, I looked
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 13: up your your two thousand ar super Bowl year with
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 13: us with the Seahawks. Uh yeah, obviously, Sewn Alexander three
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 13: hundred and seventy carries. Mo Morris the number two guy,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 13: had seventy, so he had nineteen percent. Moors had nineteen
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 13: percent of the carriers that Sean had, whereas Charbonnet has
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 13: seventy seven percent of K nine. Now I'm you know, say, well,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 13: there are different players. Yeah, but that's a that's a
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 13: big difference.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think, you know, Hugh, I think it's
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: you look at every team now is playing going with
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 7: two backs most teams, so that there's a difference there.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: And I'm still kind of curious as to why. You know,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: I think it's maybe I don't know. I don't have
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 7: an answer for that, but I play Walker more.
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  Speaker 2: I hope Sean Alexander still sends you Christmas cookies every
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: year for how many balls.
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  Speaker 7: Do you give him? He's got to take care of
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: his family. You know, he's got he's got twenty seven kids.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, what is this bone you've got to
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: pick this week? With NFL officials and keep in mind
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Hughes in the room.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I know, I think they're great. I love
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: those guys. They never make mistakes, you know. I I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: don't know, you misunderstood what I said. I think, and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: explain explain this to me. They have this new thing
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 7: where they check they they put that line for first downs.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 7: They did it yesterday, you know, from the from the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 7: the technical stuff. But if the guy, if the if
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: the official places the ball wrong and they say, oh no,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: we'll check it with this line. Oh, what does that
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: have to do with the he placed it wrong, he
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: missed it. I don't get that. Explain you would you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 7: explain that to me?
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  Speaker 13: Please listen it all everything, all, the answer to all
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 13: your official questions comes back to if they're full time
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 13: officials and they're doing virtual reality all day, their eyes
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 13: are going to be faster like like I. Honestly, I
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 13: don't even understand. I think anybody who did disagrees with
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 13: that statement should be institutionalized. It's so axiomatic that I
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 13: share your exasperation, but I'm I'm perhaps more exasperated because
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 13: I feel like there's at least a solution this should
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 13: be tried.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Chuck, I'm sorry I brought that up,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 7: but you know I wanted to hear what you I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: didn't know what you thought about this.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: All these years. Yeah, tired of beating around this year
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: ran about it, so yeah, I needed another fresh ran.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah you stop beating around the bush. Finally tell us
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: what you really feel. Hey, I'm going to lose the
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: last minute. I don't want to end on a somber note.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: This is happening way too frequently. But Hugh, I'm sure
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: you've got some great member memories of Kenny Easley as
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: a Seahawk fan here in town, and we lost him
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: over the weekend, and so I didn't know if you
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: wanted to share a thing or two a memory about
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Kenny Easily before we came.
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  Speaker 13: I think he played in an era, Mike, you remember,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 13: you know, it was just different then because they didn't
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 13: protect receivers.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: So it was kind of.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 13: The way was like, hey, you're value to be a headhunter,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 13: and if it's helmet to helmet contact and the guy
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 13: gets knocked out, so be it.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: It was just a different style.
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  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 13: And and so he was a great athlete with a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 13: headhunter mentality, and uh, you know, just sol I mean,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 13: put it this way. Ronnie lott Mike, you know, he
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 13: said the one guy that he modeled his game after
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 13: was Kenny Easily, And that should tell you everything, you know,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 13: because Ronnie lott Is is generally regarded as the greatest
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 13: safety you ever played.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know, the game has changed and
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 7: he was very physical and so valuable to the Seahawks
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 7: in those days. So anytime I read something like that
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: from a young man younger than me, certainly that has
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: passed on you know, there's a certain sadness, but he'll
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: be members. Is one of the great ones all time.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Thank you gentlemen, you're both two of the great ones.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: We appreciate it and we will talk to you again soon.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 7: Thanks Chuck.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, Monday Morning Quarterback comes to a close
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: here on another Monday. Unfortunately, we had a loss to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: talk about, but a lot of great analysis there from
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Greg from coach and from Hugh. All right, we'll be
• 1:18:21
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