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The Rita Panahi Show | 23 January · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia. This is the Reader Panete Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahee Show. I'm
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Speaker 2: Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. The polls are getting worse
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Speaker 2: for Anthony Alberizi as the majority of voters think inflation
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Speaker 2: will get worse under labor. Hundreds of illegal migrants have
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Speaker 2: been arrested in the US as Donald Trump's immigration crackdown
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Speaker 2: comes into effect.
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Speaker 3: The Great Douglas.
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Speaker 2: Murray will give us his take on law and order
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Speaker 2: being restored in America.
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Speaker 3: America First is back.
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Speaker 2: The Trump administration adopts a one flag policy at embassy's army.
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Speaker 3: Horowitz will join us for more.
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Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield on Prince Harry settling.
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Speaker 3: His lawsuit with the Sun in London and.
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Speaker 2: Of course left He's losing it, including the delusional borderline,
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Speaker 2: scary meltdowns over Trump's genderban.
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Speaker 4: Keep one Phaeton because you just have to. Hal's eaten
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Speaker 4: hell reason always.
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Speaker 2: Joddy me Now is Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary,
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Speaker 2: great to catch up with you. Thanks so much for
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Speaker 2: Jody v on the show. Look, let's start with this
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Speaker 2: latest polling. Australians have swung more support behind the Opposition
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Speaker 2: leader Peter Dutton in a warning sign for the Prime minister.
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Speaker 2: This Resolve poll, published in nine newspapers, shows that fifty
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Speaker 2: percent of voters expect inflation to get worse in the
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Speaker 2: near future.
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Speaker 3: Now if we go through it.
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Speaker 2: Dutton has gained a significant lead over Albanezi as preferred
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister thirty nine to thirty four percent in the
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Speaker 2: primary vote. Labor held steady at twenty seven percent over
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Speaker 2: the past month. The Coalition also steady at thirty eight percent,
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Speaker 2: and the Coalition kept its lead over Labor two Party
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Speaker 2: preferred fifty one to forty nine.
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Speaker 5: Gary.
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Speaker 3: Look, we're seeing a trend now with the polling.
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Speaker 2: What do you think that Peter Dutton needs to do
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Speaker 2: to keep this momentum going to really get the Coalition
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Speaker 2: over the line at the next election.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's just going to stay upright and stay focused
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Speaker 6: because this is not about Peter Dunton winning the election.
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Speaker 6: This is about Australia winning again, winning back Australia.
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Speaker 7: You know, the.
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Speaker 6: Promise of Australia has not been delivered to so many Australians.
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Speaker 6: Young and those who've migrated here are all wondering what's
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Speaker 6: happened to the Australia we thought we were coming to
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Speaker 6: be part of. I mean, Peter Dunton has got to actually,
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Speaker 6: i think, be strong in his resolve to think about
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Speaker 6: the long term and the medium term, not just the
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Speaker 6: short term thing.
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Speaker 7: So it shouldn't just be about winning an election.
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Speaker 6: It should be about winning Australia, you know, having Australia win.
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Speaker 6: And there's a lot of messaging out of Donald Trump's
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Speaker 6: approach where Donald Trump has been very straightforward about stuff
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Speaker 6: and some people you know, have had a problem with it.
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Speaker 6: And the more the left's heads kind of metaphorically explode
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Speaker 6: about Donald Trump, the more you know he's right. And
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Speaker 6: to get that kind of common sense narrative back it
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Speaker 6: is so critically important. But I've been saying for years, Denika,
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Speaker 6: on this program, on so many other programs on radio,
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Speaker 6: the whole lot, that you can actually see whether a
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Speaker 6: government trusts the people or not. If government over taxes,
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Speaker 6: over regulates, and over legislates.
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Speaker 7: Then you know it doesn't trust you.
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Speaker 6: And that's what we've got and I think Australians have
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Speaker 6: fed up to the back teeth with that approach. And
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Speaker 6: Elbow's in a world of heard and people say yippie,
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Speaker 6: you know, I mean, they really don't wish him well
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Speaker 6: at all. The trouble is this guy could get really
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Speaker 6: crazy over the next couple of months. Hears our Joe Biden,
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Speaker 6: and heaven knows what sort of stuff he might try
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Speaker 6: and do between.
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Speaker 7: Now and the election.
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Speaker 6: Who actually ruin the work that Peter Dutton is going
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Speaker 6: to have to do to restore the kind of Australian
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Speaker 6: promise I think a lot of us want to have.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely Well, that's what Donald Trump's doing over there, America First, and.
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Speaker 3: That's what we need here.
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Speaker 2: And in fact, there's been a number of Coalition MPs
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Speaker 2: who are pushing for this bolder Australia First policy in
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Speaker 2: the wake of that victory. In fact, Peter Dutton is
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Speaker 2: reportedly preparing to roll out proposals on home ownership, using gas,
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Speaker 2: to lower energy bills and broader economic plans. And we
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Speaker 2: know that Trump has pledged to slash taxes, regulation, climate
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Speaker 2: change targets.
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Speaker 3: He's going quite bold.
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Speaker 2: So Gary, do you think that Dunton needs to really
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Speaker 2: go bigger and bolder That now is not the time
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Speaker 2: to be wasting.
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Speaker 7: Look, I've had.
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Speaker 6: Of you for years Doniger, and I've said it to
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Speaker 6: Peter Dutton, have known for thirty odd years exactly this
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Speaker 6: that I think it's like those old sort of European tours.
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Speaker 6: You know, follow me, follow me, here's my flag. You know,
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Speaker 6: people want Dunton to lead them over the hill and
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Speaker 6: to the next horizon, and so he should not be timid.
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Speaker 7: Now there are going to be people on his team.
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Speaker 7: So I just shut up. Let the government lose.
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's good enough to just have you know,
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Speaker 6: governments lose, oppositions don't win being the narrative over the
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Speaker 6: next couple of months, I think Peter Dutton has to
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Speaker 6: outline a vision. I don't believe that younger people, people
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Speaker 6: of your age and younger should be having their superannuation
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Speaker 6: locked up, not being able to access that kind of
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Speaker 6: money as even counting as a resource as an asset
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Speaker 6: for say buying a home. I think we should be
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Speaker 6: able to say, you know what, the promise of Australia
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Speaker 6: includes things like home ownership. It is the absolute great
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Speaker 6: way in which most people feel a sense of connection
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Speaker 6: to the economic wellbeing of the country. And we're not
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Speaker 6: hearing that language out of this Prime Minister who just
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Speaker 6: wants to follow the same old, tired, broken international, frankly
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Speaker 6: communist backed woke agenda about everything from climate change and
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Speaker 6: we've got to go ev this, where's the electricity coming from?
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Speaker 6: We need cheap power, we need lots of it and
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Speaker 6: cheap power. But almost got no plans if the wind
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Speaker 6: doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine and the electricity
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Speaker 6: goes off. And Queensland's having a pretty hot couple of days,
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Speaker 6: and already we've got state government departments being told switch
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Speaker 6: off the air con, don't use the elevator as much,
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Speaker 6: turn the computer off because the grid might collapse.
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Speaker 7: That's Queensland.
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Speaker 6: That's on top of Victoria, that's on top of New
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Speaker 6: South Wales, on South Australia.
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Speaker 7: That's not how you.
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Speaker 6: Actually build a better, more confident country. So Dunton has
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Speaker 6: to go bold.
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Speaker 7: Nuclear is just the start. Go stronger. Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: We're going broken backwards under labor Gary, that's for sure.
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Speaker 3: Now, look, let's pivot to Australia Day.
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Speaker 2: A major pub group who was forced to apologize about
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Speaker 2: a controversial Australia Day celebration ban is still refusing to
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Speaker 2: acknowledge the national Day instead encouraging Ozzie's to simply celebrate
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Speaker 2: the long weekend. Now, despite blatantly omitting January twenty six
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Speaker 2: as a public holiday in any of its promotional material,
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Speaker 2: venues owned by hospitality giant Australian Venue Co are choosing
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Speaker 2: to celebrate.
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Speaker 3: National Is on your Day, Valentine's Day and the super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Go figure, Gary.
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Speaker 2: Now this is the same venue who backflipped twenty four
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Speaker 2: hours after its Australia Day celebration ban. But now it's
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Speaker 2: snubbing our National Day. Is it time to boycott venues
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Speaker 2: like this?
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Speaker 6: Well, I think we've got to be deliberate in the
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Speaker 6: way we spend our money. I had a personal twelve
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Speaker 6: month moratorium on spending money at Woolworth's where my first
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Speaker 6: job as a young cared was packing groceries at woolworth
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Speaker 6: So I really felt sad about that. But you know
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Speaker 6: I didn't spend any money in Wilworths for twelve months.
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Speaker 6: Now I just have come from a Woolworths store earlier
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Speaker 6: this evening and the flags are up. So Woolworths learned
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Speaker 6: the lesson from a year ago. I think Australian Venue
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Speaker 6: Company needs to learn the lesson as well. I'm sorry
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Speaker 6: for the white staff and the people working in the hotels,
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Speaker 6: and by the way, it's not their fault, it's some
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Speaker 6: idiot in a Melbourne based office, by the way, and
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Speaker 6: Melbourne has this kind of we're not really part of
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Speaker 6: Australia thing that goes through it's corporate and government world
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Speaker 6: in Victoria. I'm sorry to your viewers in Melbourne, but
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Speaker 6: it's just a reality. And Australia Day is a day
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Speaker 6: which is important to those who have migrated here in
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Speaker 6: their lifetime, become citizens by choice in their lifetime. It
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Speaker 6: is a day that brings us together national is only
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Speaker 6: your day? Sounds fair, fantastic. Oh but say this Australia Day.
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Speaker 7: You know, why aren't we doing it? I don't get it.
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Speaker 2: No, I completely agree with you, Gary, and go woke,
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Speaker 2: go broke.
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Speaker 3: So look what happened to Woolley and look speaking of this,
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Speaker 3: this is extraordinary.
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Speaker 2: The handing out of a double sided Australian and Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: flag and citizenship ceremonies on the Gold Coast has actually
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Speaker 2: been axed by that council after complaints from residents.
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Speaker 3: Who would have thought.
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Speaker 2: You know, Gary, firstly, I'm shocked that there is even
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Speaker 2: a double sided flag common sense.
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Speaker 3: Fine, they've banned it, but the fact that they were handing.
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Speaker 2: Out these flags in the first place just irritates me.
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Speaker 3: We are one country, are we not?
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Speaker 6: Denika. Here is your headline. There is a flag for
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Speaker 6: Aboriginal Australians. It's called the Australian National Flag. You can
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Speaker 6: fly whatever flag you like. If you live along the
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Speaker 6: Murray River, you might like that Murray River flag.
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Speaker 7: It's got a lot of tradition.
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Speaker 6: But the one flag which unites this all no matter
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Speaker 6: where you are around the world. You know, we are
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Speaker 6: a country like any country that we all recognize our
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Speaker 6: flag when we see it. We actually allow part of
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Speaker 6: our flag to be used by another country as their
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Speaker 6: entire flag.
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Speaker 7: The UK used as part of our flags their flag.
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Speaker 6: I mean, seriously, this is a flag for all Australians.
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Speaker 6: I've gone to citizenship ceremonies. I was once the Citizenship Minister,
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Speaker 6: the first ever federal citizenship minister, and I've watched African
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Speaker 6: refugees kiss our flag. They love the fact they could
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Speaker 6: be part of Australia. Why is it this cultural cringe
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Speaker 6: and this PC black armed view of our history has
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Speaker 6: to dictate terms on this.
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Speaker 7: They've got it wrong.
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Speaker 6: The Australian flag is about unity. Australian Day is about unity,
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Speaker 6: citizenship is about unity. And the gold Cast Council rightly
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Speaker 6: have reversed this stupid idea.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, totally ridiculous. You know, in the end, we
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Speaker 2: should be proud to be Australians. It's not racist to
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Speaker 2: be proud to be an Australian. You're not a bigot
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Speaker 2: for loving this. We've got to show that pride. I
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Speaker 2: look forward to doing that on Australia Day. Gary Hardgrave,
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Speaker 2: nice to catch up. Thanks very much for joining me
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Speaker 2: on the show this evening. Joining me now is one
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Speaker 2: of the finest thinkers of his generation, the author of
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Speaker 2: international best sellers including The Madness of Crowds, The Strange
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Speaker 2: Death of Europe, and The War on the West. Douglas
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Speaker 2: Murray Douglas, great to be with you. Thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for joining me on the show this evening. I
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Speaker 2: want to start with Donald Trump's inauguration. You were over
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Speaker 2: in Washington, DC. What was it like to be there
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Speaker 2: during this historic moment in time?
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Speaker 8: Well, it was, as you say, historic, It was extraordinary
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Speaker 8: to see the president's inauguration, the excitement in Washington, the
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Speaker 8: extraordinary cast of characters who are around in the city
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Speaker 8: to see it, and yes, it really did feel like
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Speaker 8: a new dawn in the US. It was an astonishing
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Speaker 8: speech apart from anything else that Trump gave much more.
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Speaker 8: It's interesting to compare it to the first inauguration speech, which,
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Speaker 8: if you remember in twenty seventeen, was outside on that occasion,
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Speaker 8: but was pretty angry in tone. In many ways, it was,
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Speaker 8: of course, a very divisive time in America.
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Speaker 1: This felt very different.
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Speaker 8: It felt like a much more magnanimous Trump.
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Speaker 1: It felt like.
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Speaker 8: A Trump who was on top of all of the
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Speaker 8: things you wanted to do, who had fought through a
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Speaker 8: whole set of policies in the last eight years and more,
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Speaker 8: and knew how to enact them. I thought that it
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Speaker 8: was also it was just in general, a sort of
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Speaker 8: positive new Dawn like speech. And maybe that's for many reasons,
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Speaker 8: but one of which is of course, the fact that
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Speaker 8: this was such an extraordinary landslide of a victory for him,
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Speaker 8: you know, the Republicans winning the popular vote for the
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Speaker 8: first time in decades, and much more.
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Speaker 1: You could feel the president felt.
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Speaker 8: The mandate that he had and the opportunity, the historic
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Speaker 8: opportunity that he now has. And yes, an amazing time.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, absolutely, and I think it's given a real
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Speaker 2: sense of optimism for the first time in many years.
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Speaker 2: And I felt like that was definitely conveyed during his
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Speaker 2: speech as well. Now we need to talk about this
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Speaker 2: woke bishop who went on a wild activist rant during
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Speaker 2: a church service for Donald Trump. Here's a reminder of
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Speaker 2: what happened, and I think that JD. Vance's face really
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Speaker 2: says it all.
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Speaker 9: I ask you to have mercy upon the people in
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Speaker 9: our country. We're scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and
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Speaker 9: transgender children in Democratic Republican and independent families, some who
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Speaker 9: fear for their lives.
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Speaker 2: Now, this bishop, Marianne Edgar Bood has now gone on
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Speaker 2: a pre tour of America. Here she is on the
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Speaker 2: view who are unsurprisingly gushing over her.
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Speaker 10: You seem to have more fearlessness than anyone in Congress
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Speaker 10: right now, maw you were so gentle, you were so respectful,
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Speaker 10: you were very demure and very mindful.
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Speaker 9: A lot of people, as I said, in our country
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Speaker 9: right now, are really scared. I wanted to take the
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Speaker 9: opportunity in the context of that of service for unity
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Speaker 9: to say we need to treat everyone with dignity and
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Speaker 9: we need to be merciful. I was trying to counter
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Speaker 9: the narrative that is so divisive and polarizing.
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Speaker 3: Douglas.
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Speaker 2: She's out there now talking about mercy and understanding, yet
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Speaker 2: couldn't wait to do all these press interviews. What do
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Speaker 2: you make of what she did at that service and
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Speaker 2: how she's gone about it since?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 8: I thought it was completely disgraceful and the great example
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Speaker 8: of where the Episcopalian church has gone in recent years.
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Speaker 1: There was nothing really about God in this.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you would have thought that she'd have taken
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Speaker 8: the opportunity to talk about God in some way.
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Speaker 1: She didn't.
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Speaker 8: She just had a set of boring Democrats, left wing
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Speaker 8: talking points. First of all, by the woman, the obscenity
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Speaker 8: of talking about trans children. There's no such thing as
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Speaker 8: a trans child. No child is just born in the
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Speaker 8: wrong body. And if people are fearful, as she said,
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Speaker 8: which I'm really not sure they are, but if they
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Speaker 8: were fearful, then it's because of people like this barmie
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Speaker 8: bishop who go around claiming that Donald Trump is going
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Speaker 8: to come and kill their trans.
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Speaker 1: Children or whatever.
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, people have to be indoctrinated into
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Speaker 8: that kind of fear, and people like her have perhaps
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Speaker 8: managed to do that to some of there would be flop.
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Speaker 8: It's just one of those occasions though, when you know,
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Speaker 8: you remember what has gone wrong where a large segment
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Speaker 8: of the church. It's not just the Episcopalian church. But
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Speaker 8: you know, this is a moment and it doesn't happen
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Speaker 8: that often in America any more than Australia or Britain.
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Speaker 8: This is a moment for the church to shine, you know,
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Speaker 8: and actually to talk about God, to talk about Jesus,
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Speaker 8: talk about the Christian.
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Speaker 1: Faith for instance.
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Speaker 8: This would seem like prime time to do that. But
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Speaker 8: only a banal bishop like this thinks that instead of
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Speaker 8: talking about God they should do their boring talking points,
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Speaker 8: which if anyone wants to see they can get on
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Speaker 8: the view any day. It's just a real disgrace that
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Speaker 8: somebody like her is in that position, and as I say,
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Speaker 8: a demonstration of the church is failing, that they would
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Speaker 8: have just this third rate political hack when they could
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Speaker 8: have had somebody who was talking about God and representing
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Speaker 8: God on earth.
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Speaker 1: I can think of no one further away.
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Speaker 8: From that position than her, and she or sure she'll
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Speaker 8: enjoy her two or three days of being lauded for
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Speaker 8: her incredible bravery. And after that, I hope she disappears
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Speaker 8: into the oblivion from which she came.
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Speaker 3: Oh look, don't we all that would be great?
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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump overnight's also demanded a public apology. He's
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Speaker 2: posted to truth Social saying the so called bishop who
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Speaker 2: spoke at the National Prayer Service on Tuesday morning was
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Speaker 2: a radical left, hardline Trump hater. She brought her church
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Speaker 2: into the world of politics in a very ungracious way. Douglas,
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Speaker 2: You know, Trump is right here. What business did she have?
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Speaker 2: And and it goes to what you alluded to before turning
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Speaker 2: what was meant to be a great church service into
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Speaker 2: a political one.
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Speaker 1: It's so strange.
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Speaker 8: I mean, and you know, just to demonstrate that there
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Speaker 8: should be such a thing as consistency. I wouldn't have
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Speaker 8: wanted to hear a sermon from a very right twing
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Speaker 8: bishop explaining how tough we should be on illegal migrants either.
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Speaker 1: I mean, she said we've got.
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Speaker 8: To have mercy on illegal migrants and how scared they are,
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Speaker 8: and I mean that's just ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can just do that forever.
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Speaker 8: But the counterpart is you could just talk about all
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Speaker 8: the crimes that some illegal migrants have committed. But again,
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Speaker 8: who wants to hear that from a pulpit. You can
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Speaker 8: hear that in some of the news if you want.
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Speaker 8: You can hear it on it. You can see it
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Speaker 8: on x you can see it on YouTube, you can
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Speaker 8: see it in the newspapers. You can read the New
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Speaker 8: York Post, and you can read the crimes that have
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Speaker 8: been committed by illegal migrants. But once you step into church,
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Speaker 8: you would hope that you would get something other than
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Speaker 8: the day's news, and something about the eternal and the
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Speaker 8: divine and the sublime, and so, you know, just the
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Speaker 8: heart sinks. One of the things I've said for years
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Speaker 8: is that the response to the mad left wing infiltration
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Speaker 8: of almost every institution in our societies should not be
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Speaker 8: countered actually by the right wing infiltration of the churches
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Speaker 8: or music.
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Speaker 1: Or anything else.
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Speaker 8: It should be the depoliticization of the non political world.
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Speaker 8: You know, there are ever few there have been in
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Speaker 8: recent years, ever fewer spaces to use one of the
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Speaker 8: left's favorite phrases, Ever fewer spaces in which you can
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Speaker 8: actually escape from politics. Because the left has pushed politics
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Speaker 8: into everything. I hope that this is just another reminder
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Speaker 8: to conservatives and liberals and others alike, we need spaces
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Speaker 8: that are not politicized, where you're not going to get
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Speaker 8: a sermon literally in the church and non literally anywhere
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Speaker 8: else where. We can just focus on other.
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Speaker 1: Things as well.
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Speaker 8: And as I say, I mean that should really be
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Speaker 8: the conservative response, say strip the politics out.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And this is exactly why Donald Trump's been elected
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Speaker 2: because people are sick of this absolute nonsense. Now you
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Speaker 2: mentioned illegal migrants there, and it started already. More than
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Speaker 2: three hundred illegal migrants have been arrested by ICE during
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Speaker 2: raids in and around sanctuary cities across the US. This
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Speaker 2: includes sex offenders and other violent criminals. Douglas, this is
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Speaker 2: just the beginning of what clearly is a massive task
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Speaker 2: ahead for Ice and borders our Tom Homan. But how
19:38
Speaker 2: good is it to see law and order slowly and
19:41
Speaker 2: finally being restored.
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Speaker 8: Well, as I've said for many years, if you don't
19:47
Speaker 8: have a border, you don't really have a country, or
19:50
Speaker 8: at least you won't have a country very soon. The
19:54
Speaker 8: way in which illegal migration has been encouraged in recent years,
20:01
Speaker 8: not just in America, but of course in Britain, Europe
20:04
Speaker 8: and elsewhere has been really shocking. It has undermined the
20:08
Speaker 8: fabric of these societies, and it rewards the illegality. At
20:14
Speaker 8: the first point, many people like that Barmie Bishop will
20:19
Speaker 8: have will be thinking about, you know, these people saying
20:22
Speaker 8: they're not all or not all these illegal migrants and criminals.
20:25
Speaker 8: That's true with the fact that obviously not all of
20:29
Speaker 8: them have raped and murdered people since entering the US illegally,
20:32
Speaker 8: but all of them have broken the law by entering
20:35
Speaker 8: the US illegally. And meantime, by the way, you know,
20:39
Speaker 8: this is another of those great things that undermines one
20:41
Speaker 8: of the central fabrics of a society is you know,
20:44
Speaker 8: legal migration is hard. Getting asylum actually for legitimate reasons
20:51
Speaker 8: is hard. And the fact that at the same time
20:54
Speaker 8: as that reality exists, you just have this other world
20:59
Speaker 8: where any one who just breaks the law is allowed
21:02
Speaker 8: to do so is just something that has massively undermined
21:06
Speaker 8: the United States of America as with other developed democracies.
21:10
Speaker 8: It is a huge task ahead for the Trump administration,
21:13
Speaker 8: there's no doubt about that, and they are going to
21:15
Speaker 8: be fought against by Democrat governments in sanctuary cities, Democrat
21:20
Speaker 8: authorities in sanctuary cities like New York and like the
21:26
Speaker 8: cities in California, and we'll we'll just see what happens.
21:31
Speaker 8: But I think that one very important thing about this
21:34
Speaker 8: is it's not just that America and the American voters
21:37
Speaker 8: who voted in Donald Trump are watching. I think the
21:40
Speaker 8: world is watching because countries like Italy, Spain, France and
21:47
Speaker 8: others that have millions of illegal migrants in their countries
21:51
Speaker 8: that they have totally failed to deport. Britain is another example,
21:56
Speaker 8: more than a million illegal migrants in the UK, totally
21:59
Speaker 8: total failure of the government, total failure of the state
22:02
Speaker 8: to enforce the border laws. If Donald Trump can do
22:06
Speaker 8: this in America, then maybe there's a blueprint for other
22:09
Speaker 8: countries saying, you know, we are fair minded countries, we're
22:13
Speaker 8: good countries, which is why so many people want to
22:16
Speaker 8: come to the developed world. There must be something we're
22:18
Speaker 8: doing right. But we're mad if we think we can
22:22
Speaker 8: just have open borders and anyone in the world can
22:25
Speaker 8: walk in. So the American voters will be watching Trump.
22:28
Speaker 8: But my prediction is that governments across Europe and elsewhere
22:31
Speaker 8: will also be watching very carefully and hoping that he
22:34
Speaker 8: succeeds and that they can.
22:35
Speaker 2: Follow absolutely and hopefully he sets that standard. Now I
22:40
Speaker 2: want to ask you about the cease fire deal between
22:43
Speaker 2: Israel and Tamas. We're already seeing the first of some
22:46
Speaker 2: of the hostages being released. But Douglas, you know, in
22:49
Speaker 2: your view, will this really ever truly end this war.
22:55
Speaker 1: Well, it's very early to say. My expectation is no.
23:02
Speaker 8: I'm extremely pleased for the hostage families whose daughters were released.
23:07
Speaker 8: Three girls women were released. Of course, at the weekend.
23:12
Speaker 8: There has been an awful lot of praise of countries
23:17
Speaker 8: like Katar in particular, for helping to affect this release.
23:23
Speaker 8: There are still many scores of hostages in Gaza, an
23:28
Speaker 8: international array of hostages in Gaza who were stolen, kidnapped
23:35
Speaker 8: from their loved ones on October the seventh, and Hamas,
23:39
Speaker 8: in its unbelievable necrophilic style, is also holding onto the
23:44
Speaker 8: bodies of murdered hostages, and the Israeli negotiators having to
23:49
Speaker 8: deal with talking about how to get dead bodies back
23:52
Speaker 8: from Hamas's clutches, as well as hopefully as many living
23:56
Speaker 8: hostages as possible. I think there are just two things
23:59
Speaker 8: quickly I would say about this. The first is that
24:02
Speaker 8: whether or not the war ends really relies on Hamaz
24:06
Speaker 8: could have stopped this war, and indeed it could have
24:10
Speaker 8: not started it, and that would have been a good idea,
24:13
Speaker 8: wouldn't it. But there's one other corner which does have
24:16
Speaker 8: to be highlighted, which is the role of Kata. Kata
24:20
Speaker 8: is one of the thunders and hosts of Hamaz, and
24:25
Speaker 8: it is galling to some of us to watch the
24:28
Speaker 8: praise being dished out to Katar and the Emir at
24:33
Speaker 8: the moment. My view, rather perhaps old fashioned, a niche
24:38
Speaker 8: one at the moment is that if you try to
24:41
Speaker 8: burn down your neighbour's house, then if you provide a
24:45
Speaker 8: fire extinguisher fifteen months later, you shouldn't be enormously over
24:51
Speaker 8: praised for your actions. And that's the situation that Katar
24:55
Speaker 8: is in. They should be made to give all of
24:59
Speaker 8: the hostel back. None of the hostages should have been
25:03
Speaker 8: in guars in the first place. They were stolen and
25:06
Speaker 8: it's high time that all of them were given back,
25:09
Speaker 8: and I hope the Trump administration will make it clear
25:11
Speaker 8: that that is its priority. So far, they've been very
25:14
Speaker 8: strong on that, but it requires regional partners to do
25:18
Speaker 8: their bit and not to play this double dealing game
25:21
Speaker 8: that countries like Katar have.
25:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely spot on as always, Douglas Murray.
25:27
Speaker 3: Really good to speak with you. Thank you so much
25:28
Speaker 3: for joining me on the show this evening.
25:31
Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure as always. Thank you.
25:33
Speaker 2: Still to come. Lefties losing it? Plus, the Trump administration
25:36
Speaker 2: adopts a one flag policy at embassies. Army Horowitz joins
25:40
Speaker 2: us with the latest from the US. Now it's time
25:52
Speaker 2: for lefties losing it. Do you ever have a bad
25:55
Speaker 2: day and forget people's pronouns, because that's exactly what happened
26:00
Speaker 2: to this teacher.
26:02
Speaker 3: So I had a kid on Monday. They said their
26:05
Speaker 3: pronouns were she her.
26:07
Speaker 11: Then on Wednesday, yesterday, they came to me and they said,
26:11
Speaker 11: you know what my pronouns are?
26:13
Speaker 3: They them, I want you in the glass Tuesday them. Okay, cool.
26:17
Speaker 12: Great.
26:18
Speaker 9: They come to class today, there's names on desks.
26:22
Speaker 3: In groups for as science seats.
26:24
Speaker 12: They can't find theirs because I guess my first class
26:27
Speaker 12: match it off.
26:28
Speaker 11: So I go to the class.
26:29
Speaker 3: Hey is she in anyone's group? Does anyone see her name.
26:36
Speaker 3: It took me five minutes to realize that I did.
26:41
Speaker 2: Oh whoop see, And it took you five minutes to
26:45
Speaker 2: realize just it's not good enough. It's really not good enough.
26:49
Speaker 2: And what do you do when you make such a
26:50
Speaker 2: grave era of judgment?
26:52
Speaker 3: What I did?
26:53
Speaker 7: When they were sitting by themselves.
26:56
Speaker 3: I approached them and said I screwed up, didn't I?
27:00
Speaker 3: And they said, yep, jay, how can you live with yourself?
27:04
Speaker 3: With all that disappointment?
27:06
Speaker 2: Now to the Britney Spears level breakdowns over Trump's executive
27:10
Speaker 2: order on genders.
27:12
Speaker 11: Our new president has declared on day one of his
27:14
Speaker 11: presidency that our country will no longer recognize any gender
27:18
Speaker 11: aside from male or female. As a non binary person
27:21
Speaker 11: who lives in the United States of America, I'm a
27:23
Speaker 11: New Yorker. I live in New York. I'm not going anywhere.
27:26
Speaker 11: I love the city. Uh all right, okay, So if
27:30
Speaker 11: I'm no longer a human legally speaking, of course, I
27:34
Speaker 11: might as well have fun. So how am I spending
27:36
Speaker 11: my day this inauguration day? I Am going to go
27:40
Speaker 11: commiserate with my fellow queer people at my favorite lesbian bar.
27:44
Speaker 11: Ready for the.
27:45
Speaker 7: Circus, Roll up, roll up?
27:48
Speaker 3: Is that circus recruiting.
27:50
Speaker 4: And as long as you draw breath, every breath you
27:53
Speaker 4: take is a rebellion. Keep on fighting because you just
27:58
Speaker 4: have to hail Satan hall reason.
28:01
Speaker 3: Always love that, absolutely love it.
28:04
Speaker 2: And can someone please check on this next person who
28:07
Speaker 2: is apparently coming to save America.
28:09
Speaker 5: Something is known me off.
28:11
Speaker 6: Maybe you're thinking too much, lugging out at the noise, DNA.
28:15
Speaker 3: Then give me the rush.
28:17
Speaker 12: Remember what I was doing.
28:19
Speaker 3: I'm never double to come. Here's the side of my wage.
28:23
Speaker 5: Here's the cover of my wave.
28:25
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I've got a theory that maybe they might
28:29
Speaker 2: need some saving. And you know, I know just the
28:32
Speaker 2: woman actually funnily enough for that job. Here she is
28:36
Speaker 2: the woke Bishop of America herself, ah, in all her glory,
28:41
Speaker 2: she'll do it with those eyes, especially save the dying
28:45
Speaker 2: gender crusade. And speaking of that bewildering bishop, it looks
28:50
Speaker 2: like she's found her loyal disciples in none other than
28:53
Speaker 2: the American liberal media.
28:55
Speaker 13: Your turne there so serious and genuine. You see him,
28:59
Speaker 13: he's still face. He then looks down, but he's listening
29:02
Speaker 13: to every word you say. As you made that personal
29:05
Speaker 13: plea to him. What were you looking at him in
29:10
Speaker 13: that moment? What kind of response were you perhaps hoping
29:14
Speaker 13: for in that moment? Because it was gentle. I mean
29:17
Speaker 13: it was. It was intense and passionate, but yet.
29:19
Speaker 3: It was gentle.
29:20
Speaker 13: It was not ugly or confrontational. It wouldn't expect it
29:24
Speaker 13: to be. But you know, these are hard things to
29:26
Speaker 13: talk about in that context. Particularly, you seem to strike
29:31
Speaker 13: a nerve.
29:31
Speaker 10: You seem to have more fearlessness than anyone in Congress
29:34
Speaker 10: right now. Man, you know, Bishop, I was struck by
29:36
Speaker 10: your tone. You were so gentle, you were so respectful,
29:39
Speaker 10: You were very demure and very mindful.
29:41
Speaker 2: Well, look, if the view ever need an exoricism, then
29:44
Speaker 2: they certainly no whey to go?
29:46
Speaker 3: Now?
29:47
Speaker 2: How to look at this delicious demolition of a puffed
29:50
Speaker 2: up pronoun reporter on live TV.
29:53
Speaker 14: First day on the job. President Trump's sign and executive order?
29:57
Speaker 14: You know, the US government only recognizing two genders out
30:00
Speaker 14: female they're unchangeable. You know, if elected as prime minister,
30:03
Speaker 14: is that something that you're going to kind of walk
30:05
Speaker 14: in line with or what are your feelings on that
30:07
Speaker 14: executive order?
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Speaker 15: Well? I don't know, do you have any other genders
30:11
Speaker 15: that you'd like to name.
30:15
Speaker 1: Me personally.
30:17
Speaker 14: I'm just asking more so, if you're in line with
30:20
Speaker 14: what he is saying. Do you agree with what he's saying?
30:23
Speaker 14: Is that something that you would be lockstep with? Theyf
30:25
Speaker 14: elect as prime minister.
30:27
Speaker 15: Well, I'm not aware of any other genders than men
30:30
Speaker 15: and women. I mean, if you have any other that
30:33
Speaker 15: you want me to consider, you're welcome to tell.
30:35
Speaker 1: Me right now.
30:36
Speaker 14: Well, there's well there's personally, I am a man, I
30:40
Speaker 14: am a people says this man. There there are people
30:43
Speaker 14: there who you know, they say they're gender neutral.
30:46
Speaker 7: You are a man.
30:46
Speaker 14: Yes, there are people there who say there are some genderutral. Yeah,
30:49
Speaker 14: they say they're gender neutral. Uh, they're you know there,
30:52
Speaker 14: they are a trans person. Is that something that you
30:56
Speaker 14: would recognize here? Whereas in the stage at least with
31:00
Speaker 14: their US government the way they're seeing it, there's only two.
31:05
Speaker 2: I'm only aware of twough could watch Pierre on repeat
31:09
Speaker 2: every day. Joining me now is journalist and filmmaker Army Horowitz.
31:13
Speaker 3: Army, thank you for joining me. Good to see you.
31:16
Speaker 2: Let's start with The lefts continued meltdown over Elon Musk's
31:19
Speaker 2: gesture at the inauguration, which they are desperately insisting was
31:23
Speaker 2: a Nazi salute. But now best selling author Gerald Posner,
31:27
Speaker 2: who has written books on Hitler, youth, and the Nazi
31:30
Speaker 2: regime and is very informed on this topic, has said, quote,
31:33
Speaker 2: as non fiction authors of books about the Third Reich
31:37
Speaker 2: and as co founders of Anti Semitism Watch, a nonprofit
31:40
Speaker 2: that monitors anti Jewish hate worldwide, we know real Nazi
31:44
Speaker 2: and fascist rhetoric and actions. When we watch this video clip,
31:48
Speaker 2: we thought it was nothing more than him reaching out
31:50
Speaker 2: to a large crowd in a moment of intense excitement. Ami,
31:55
Speaker 2: how much more proof does a left need that this
31:57
Speaker 2: was not a Nazi salute?
31:59
Speaker 3: And why are they so desperately pushing this narrative?
32:03
Speaker 16: Look, with all due respect to the gentleman you just quoted,
32:07
Speaker 16: I don't need an expert on this, Okay, Thanika. This
32:10
Speaker 16: is so stupid that if you send me, if a
32:13
Speaker 16: producer send me this in advance saying we're going to
32:15
Speaker 16: talk about this, I would have said, I'm not talking
32:17
Speaker 16: about it. This is so dumb, but we have to
32:19
Speaker 16: talk about it because the left, and when I say it,
32:22
Speaker 16: by that the left, I mean basically the entire.
32:24
Speaker 5: Media has been making this into a thing.
32:27
Speaker 16: They're not arguing or discussing whether or not he made
32:30
Speaker 16: a Nazi salute.
32:31
Speaker 5: That'd be dumb enough. They're saying that he did it.
32:34
Speaker 16: That's what CNN is saying, that's what the view is saying,
32:36
Speaker 16: and so as it is beyond ridiculous.
32:39
Speaker 5: Thinika.
32:39
Speaker 16: Look, I think I have some skin the game on
32:43
Speaker 16: this thing. Okay, I'm a Jewish man. I kind of
32:47
Speaker 16: know what.
32:48
Speaker 5: I have a pretty good Nazi radar. Okay, I know
32:51
Speaker 5: what a Nazi is and what is that Nazi.
32:53
Speaker 16: I've called him out. I've called him out on this show.
32:55
Speaker 16: I've called him out of my personal life and other shows. Okay, look,
32:59
Speaker 16: I don't want to pull the You know, I've got
33:02
Speaker 16: Jewish friends card who know Elon. But I've got Jewish
33:04
Speaker 16: friends who know Elon. Sorry I had to drop that
33:08
Speaker 16: they know him. Well, Okay, the man is not a Nazi.
33:11
Speaker 16: In fact, he's Pilo Semitic. Ben Shapiro went to Auschwitz
33:17
Speaker 16: with Elon Musk and the latter gave a speech against
33:20
Speaker 16: anty Semitism. Now, the question is not whether or not
33:23
Speaker 16: he is a Nazi, because that's a dumb, stupid argument.
33:26
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not gonna indulge you any longer. The question
33:28
Speaker 5: is why why are they doing this?
33:31
Speaker 16: Well, look like racism Nazi is the last resort when
33:36
Speaker 16: you have nothing else to say, all your policies have
33:38
Speaker 16: clearly failed. It's the Nazi life boat they have to
33:43
Speaker 16: cling to as.
33:44
Speaker 5: A last resort.
33:45
Speaker 16: For maybe as a hail Mary pass, we can do
33:48
Speaker 16: something to move momentum back to us, we'll attack. It
33:52
Speaker 16: didn't work with Donald Trump, he won the election. We
33:54
Speaker 16: got to move on to something else. So let's go
33:56
Speaker 16: to Elon Musk. That's what's happening here. Look, Chris Murphy
34:01
Speaker 16: was talking to Elistafanik in Congress, and Chris Murphy asked her,
34:06
Speaker 16: you know, by the way, rule number one, when you
34:08
Speaker 16: were a lawyer talking and this is obviously not a
34:11
Speaker 16: legal courtroom, but rule number one, you're a lawyer talking
34:14
Speaker 16: to a witness.
34:15
Speaker 5: So much what we see in Congress, they're talking to witnesses.
34:17
Speaker 16: If you don't ask a question, you don't know how
34:20
Speaker 16: the person is going to answer. So when Chris Murphy
34:23
Speaker 16: asked her the question about the Nazi salute, again not
34:25
Speaker 16: asking her, it should be dumb enough if he did it,
34:27
Speaker 16: but a saying that he was doing a naz salute.
34:31
Speaker 5: He got demolished and stream rolled by.
34:33
Speaker 16: At Leista Panic, who, by the way, has a little
34:35
Speaker 16: bit of credibility on this because she is the poster
34:38
Speaker 16: girl when when the Hamas protesters, the Hamas supporters were
34:43
Speaker 16: attacking Jews, she was the person who called out the
34:46
Speaker 16: presidents of a number of different schools and she just
34:49
Speaker 16: ran right over him. And then then you've got the
34:52
Speaker 16: other part of the left, like AOC calling this out. AOC,
34:56
Speaker 16: you won't call out Hamas who slaughtered thousands of Jews
35:01
Speaker 16: today in not fifty or one hundred years ago. Today
35:06
Speaker 16: they are killing and slaughtering Jews.
35:08
Speaker 5: You'll call them out.
35:08
Speaker 16: You won't call out the new neo Dazis, but you'll
35:11
Speaker 16: call out some fake playbook about calling someone.
35:14
Speaker 5: Who is pro Trump an old neo Nazi. It's ridiculous,
35:17
Speaker 5: sick of it. Don't want to talk about anymore. Let's
35:18
Speaker 5: move on.
35:19
Speaker 2: I totally agree. The hypocrisy is astounding. Now all right,
35:23
Speaker 2: let's move on, army, because finally America First is back.
35:26
Speaker 2: The Trump administration is adopting a one flag only policy.
35:30
Speaker 2: Blocking US embassy is an outposts from flying Pride and
35:34
Speaker 2: Black lives matter, flags, army, it stars and stripes all
35:37
Speaker 2: the way.
35:41
Speaker 16: Again, I don't know how this is a controversy. Okay, right,
35:44
Speaker 16: I don't know why this is crazy. Why are you
35:46
Speaker 16: calling out and having an issue with the American.
35:50
Speaker 5: Flag being the only flag you're allowed to fight?
35:53
Speaker 16: The flag, by the way, which color covers justice and
35:56
Speaker 16: liberty and democracy for everyone. Okay, look quick, little little anecdote,
36:02
Speaker 16: if you will indulge me, Dadia for a moment. So
36:04
Speaker 16: my coffee shop cross the street fro where I live,
36:06
Speaker 16: love very much, but like most coffee shops, most barista's
36:10
Speaker 16: very left wing. Don't know why they end up wanting
36:12
Speaker 16: to work coffee shops, but they do.
36:14
Speaker 5: I'm sure you know about that as well.
36:16
Speaker 16: And they during Pride Month they are always fly actually,
36:21
Speaker 16: actually they put the Pride flag all year long, not
36:24
Speaker 16: just during Pride Month, which is totally there. They're able
36:26
Speaker 16: to do that. I got an issue with that. And
36:28
Speaker 16: on June teenth they actually fly the Juneteenth flag. Didn't
36:31
Speaker 16: know there was a Juneteenth flag. I learned my coffee
36:33
Speaker 16: shop there was one. Okay, fine, go ahead and do
36:35
Speaker 16: that as well. You know what, they don't fly on
36:38
Speaker 16: July fourth, on July.
36:40
Speaker 5: Fourth, the day of Independence. They don't fly the American flag. Okay.
36:44
Speaker 16: When I asked them why aren't they why aren't you
36:46
Speaker 16: flying the American flag today?
36:48
Speaker 5: They said, what are you some kind of racist? That
36:50
Speaker 5: was their response.
36:51
Speaker 16: Look, this is not just anti Americanism, right, which it is.
36:56
Speaker 16: It's also a level of self hatred. Right, that's really
36:59
Speaker 16: what if you will, I don't if you want to
37:00
Speaker 16: be if I want to put them my psychologists couch, right,
37:02
Speaker 16: I'm a psychologist. I just play one on Sky News Australia.
37:05
Speaker 5: But that's what it is. It's self hatred.
37:07
Speaker 16: And you know, I find it so despicable that the
37:10
Speaker 16: Biden administration, which of course said you can fly different
37:13
Speaker 16: kind of flags, and specifically said, right, the Biden administration
37:16
Speaker 16: specifically said to US embassies you could fly the BLM flag,
37:21
Speaker 16: the BLF flag, which is responsible for destroying over five
37:26
Speaker 16: billion dollars in property across America, responsible for dozens of
37:32
Speaker 16: deaths Danica, including police officers.
37:35
Speaker 5: But that was okay, okay.
37:37
Speaker 16: But now we have a new president and there's hey,
37:40
Speaker 16: you know what, it's moral cleanup in Aisle five please,
37:43
Speaker 16: and that's what this president is doing.
37:46
Speaker 2: Look absolutely and It's about time for sure. Now, Look,
37:49
Speaker 2: the Pentagon will begin deploying as many as fifteen hundred
37:52
Speaker 2: active duty troops to help secure the southern border in
37:55
Speaker 2: coming days, putting in motion President Donald Trump's plans to
37:59
Speaker 2: crack down on immigration. And it remains to be seen
38:02
Speaker 2: if they'll end up doing law enforcement there, but army.
38:05
Speaker 2: I mean, this was a mandate that Trump was elected
38:07
Speaker 2: on to crack down on immigration. So how important is
38:10
Speaker 2: it that this next administration actually succeeds in doing so?
38:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it could be more important.
38:18
Speaker 16: I mean, this is this is why this administration won, right,
38:21
Speaker 16: It won on the economy number one, and a close
38:24
Speaker 16: number two was immigration. When you let millions of people
38:28
Speaker 16: in this country, there's going to be a price to pay.
38:31
Speaker 16: And the prey was the price was this administration lose
38:34
Speaker 16: the election and Donald Trump winning. Let me see you
38:36
Speaker 16: recognize this person this quote? Yeah, there's nothing else I
38:41
Speaker 16: can do within my power to secure the border. Now
38:44
Speaker 16: you may not recognize the person. I wasn't I wasn't
38:46
Speaker 16: swallowing my words, right, I wasn't dribbling from my mouth.
38:49
Speaker 16: But there's a SENTI what Joe Biden said when asked
38:51
Speaker 16: why you're not securing the border.
38:54
Speaker 5: Look, it was obviously we now know it was all
38:57
Speaker 5: within his power because we had the next president doing it.
39:00
Speaker 16: He could have put troops to the border. He chose
39:02
Speaker 16: not to do it, right, He could have hit all
39:05
Speaker 16: he wants behind. I don't have the executive power to
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Speaker 16: do it, as we all know he did. He could
39:10
Speaker 16: have done all the thing that Trump is doing. He
39:12
Speaker 16: could have had deportations with Trump is now going to
39:15
Speaker 16: begin to do. He could have built, could have continue
39:17
Speaker 16: to build the wall, which he's stopped doing, which now
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Speaker 16: Trump will complete. And more importantly, Botherly than all of
39:22
Speaker 16: these things, even even the soldiers of the border, even
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Speaker 16: more important is remain in Mexico. That was the number
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Speaker 16: one tool that the Trump administration used to stem the tide,
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Speaker 16: telling Mexico, these people will stay on your side of
39:37
Speaker 16: the border, and then we'll vet them as they come through.
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Speaker 16: That's what's going on today right now. The troops aren't
39:44
Speaker 16: as necessary because of that one policy that the Biden
39:48
Speaker 16: administration decided to flip on. Okay, this is ridiculous, and
39:52
Speaker 16: now we're showing this is why Biden lost exactly on
39:56
Speaker 16: this issue.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's stop clearout now, isn't it now? This
40:01
Speaker 2: is interesting, Army, because conservatism is making a comeback. There
40:05
Speaker 2: are reports that liberal parents are now the ones actually
40:07
Speaker 2: clashing with their conservative sons. After the election, we know
40:11
Speaker 2: that Trump gained significant ground with the youth vote and
40:14
Speaker 2: one fifty three percent of men aged eighteen to forty four, Armie,
40:18
Speaker 2: why do you think that Trump appeals to gen Z
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Speaker 2: so much?
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Speaker 16: Yeah, the truth is, I don't know, and nobody really knows. Right,
40:28
Speaker 16: this is actually a quirk in demographics. We all thought
40:31
Speaker 16: that the young vote was going to go to Joe Biden.
40:33
Speaker 16: It was trending that way for a very long time,
40:36
Speaker 16: and there seems to be like we're going to be
40:37
Speaker 16: saved by gen Z. I know, we kept looking at
40:39
Speaker 16: gend saying who are you people? But the truth is
40:43
Speaker 16: gen Z, particularly gen Z mails, are ones who may
40:47
Speaker 16: for a long time keep us demographic alive for the
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Speaker 16: Republican Party. I find Oh, it is so delicious to
40:54
Speaker 16: watch parents get upset to their kids about their politics. Look,
40:59
Speaker 16: there's always this debate of nature versus nurture, and I've
41:03
Speaker 16: always said that if you if you have kids, you
41:06
Speaker 16: know that nature wins nurture.
41:08
Speaker 5: Loses.
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Speaker 16: Nature is always the number one issue when it comes
41:12
Speaker 16: to what a kid is like. And those parents who
41:15
Speaker 16: are pushing this democratic liberal dogma on their kids for
41:18
Speaker 16: all these years, he's learned a hard lesson on how
41:21
Speaker 16: it works with life. And yeah, apparently the kids and
41:24
Speaker 16: this this kind of boomerang that was an Australian term.
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Speaker 5: I think I just used what they thought.
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Speaker 16: This boomerang is now happening with gen Z and I'm
41:32
Speaker 16: here for it.
41:33
Speaker 5: I love it. I love it too.
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Speaker 3: It is an Aussie term and your spot on it's
41:36
Speaker 3: so good.
41:36
Speaker 2: That the younger generation now sponges and wanting to learn. Now,
41:40
Speaker 2: speaking of the younger generation, Baron Trump appears to be
41:43
Speaker 2: following in his father Donald Trump's footsteps. He's preparing to
41:47
Speaker 2: launch a luxury real estate venture with two young business partners.
41:52
Speaker 3: I feel like Baron is.
41:53
Speaker 2: Really the success story out of this election. He helped
41:55
Speaker 2: his father, got him onto those podcasts like Joe Rogan.
41:59
Speaker 2: But you can say that this is a young entrepreneur.
42:01
Speaker 2: How big of a future do you think he's got now?
42:04
Speaker 5: He's a comer, no question about it.
42:06
Speaker 16: I mean, look, frankly, all of Trump's kids are you
42:10
Speaker 16: want to talk about how somebody can raise children and
42:13
Speaker 16: you see who your children are a.
42:14
Speaker 5: Reflection of you.
42:16
Speaker 16: Look at his kids, look at not just the kids,
42:18
Speaker 16: but who they married. Also, it's a wonderful family. This
42:22
Speaker 16: is a family who's going to make a difference. I
42:24
Speaker 16: think they're all going to get involved in business of politics,
42:27
Speaker 16: no question about it. I think that it's a reflection
42:31
Speaker 16: on the president, reflection on his ex wife and his
42:34
Speaker 16: current wife and how they raise his kids. They're wonderful kids.
42:37
Speaker 16: I've had a chance to meet a number of them.
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Speaker 16: They're great, they're smart, and yeah, I think it's wonderful.
42:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, a big, bright future ahead for Baron. But you're right,
42:46
Speaker 2: the rest of them are just as impressive. Ami Horowitz, good.
42:49
Speaker 3: To see you. Thanks very much for joining me on
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Speaker 3: the show this evening.
42:52
Speaker 5: Always a pleasure.
42:54
Speaker 3: Still to come.
42:54
Speaker 2: Prince Harry has seconded his lawsuit with the sun Kinsey
42:57
Speaker 2: Starfield joins me next with the detail, Well, it's still
43:10
Speaker 2: getting messier and messier in it ends with us feud
43:13
Speaker 2: between co stars Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
43:17
Speaker 3: Lively and her husband Ryan Reynolds want.
43:19
Speaker 2: A judge to gag Baldoni's lawyer claiming he's making false
43:23
Speaker 2: statements about the case. Joining me now is Entertainment and
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Speaker 2: Royal reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, thanks for joining me. What
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Speaker 2: is the couple claiming?
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Speaker 12: Now, you're not kidding when you say this is getting
43:35
Speaker 12: mess here the author of that book deleting her Instagram account,
43:39
Speaker 12: Another who plays Baldoni's sister in the film being harassed
43:44
Speaker 12: online for siting with Blake today. What's going on is Blake,
43:49
Speaker 12: Lively and Ryan Reynolds asking a judge to gag Justin
43:53
Speaker 12: Baldoni's lawyer, claiming he's making false statements about the case.
43:58
Speaker 12: They filed a letter in court on Tuesday, and in
44:01
Speaker 12: it they asked the court to issue a protective order
44:03
Speaker 12: to stop him from talking.
44:05
Speaker 3: They believe that it's a.
44:07
Speaker 12: Continuation of the smear campaign that Blake initially claims happened
44:13
Speaker 12: while they were promoting the film.
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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I feel like every day there's something different,
44:19
Speaker 2: which is such a shame because it's detracted so much
44:21
Speaker 2: from the movie. But this is not going away anytime soon,
44:25
Speaker 2: I don't think, Kinsey. Now, let's talk about the inauguration outfit,
44:29
Speaker 2: the one everyone is talking about, worn by Lauren Sanchez,
44:33
Speaker 2: the fiance of Amazon billionaire Jeffrey Bezos, a blazer with
44:38
Speaker 2: Laurne Gerray underneath at the inauguration. Now, Sanchez has started
44:43
Speaker 2: to clap back at some of the haters.
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Speaker 3: Kinsey, what has she said?
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Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I do she's trying to have a
44:53
Speaker 12: good attitude about it. You know, Whitney Cummings went at
44:55
Speaker 12: her talking about how cheap she looked in the lease,
44:58
Speaker 12: and not only did Laura and Sanchez like it, but
45:02
Speaker 12: she left a heart. I don't know if she's killing
45:04
Speaker 12: people with kindness and that's how she's trying to navigate this.
45:09
Speaker 12: But I you know, I think that she's trying to
45:14
Speaker 12: take it as best as she can.
45:15
Speaker 7: I don't I.
45:17
Speaker 12: Imagine she knew what reaction she was going to get
45:19
Speaker 12: when she walked in with her Victoria's Secrets brush showing.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what else she thought was going to
45:25
Speaker 3: have it.
45:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she knew exactly what she was going
45:28
Speaker 2: to do if she's going to wear an outfit like that.
45:30
Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe she is killing people with kindness, But gosh,
45:33
Speaker 2: it's been the talk of the internet.
45:35
Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Prince Harry.
45:37
Speaker 2: He has settled his lawsuit with the son's publisher over
45:40
Speaker 2: claims of unlawful information gathering between nineteen ninety six to
45:44
Speaker 2: twenty eleven. Kinsey, what was this over and what was
45:47
Speaker 2: the agreed outcome?
45:49
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean this was a win for Prince Harry.
45:52
Speaker 12: Today the son issued a rare apology for years of
45:55
Speaker 12: intrusions into his private life and agreed to pay a
45:58
Speaker 12: substantial and damages to settle this lawsuit in court. Harry's
46:04
Speaker 12: lawyer at a statement from Newsgroup Newspapers offering a full
46:08
Speaker 12: apology to Harry for the serious privacy violations committed by
46:12
Speaker 12: the son between nineteen ninety six through twenty eleven. And
46:17
Speaker 12: this statement extended beyond the case itself, acknowledging that Princess Diana,
46:23
Speaker 12: Harry's late mother, also was affected by some of these
46:28
Speaker 12: privacy invasions. So I've heard personally that Megan has encouraged
46:34
Speaker 12: him to settle these forever. She feels like this is
46:37
Speaker 12: the only way for them to move forward. I imagine
46:40
Speaker 12: they're both very happy in Montecito today.
46:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, they probably have. I just find it hypocritical.
46:45
Speaker 2: I mean, Harry's the one that always wants privacy. It
46:48
Speaker 2: always fills the beans on the Royal family. I can
46:50
Speaker 2: just never figure that guy out now. Also speaking of
46:53
Speaker 2: Prince Harry, he has posed for photographs with a fire
46:57
Speaker 2: service therapy dogs who have been helping cruise and residents
47:00
Speaker 2: impacted by the California wildfires.
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Speaker 3: Kinsey, what's he been doing.
47:05
Speaker 12: You know, posing for photos. I'm sure that he means well,
47:10
Speaker 12: But to quote Justin Beiateman today on Pierce Morgan, I
47:13
Speaker 12: don't know who these people are.
47:15
Speaker 3: I don't know.
47:16
Speaker 12: Why they were there walking on possible human remains. Maybe
47:20
Speaker 12: they mean well, but what the heck are they doing there?
47:23
Speaker 3: Now?
47:23
Speaker 2: Look, I agree, and I mean it goes to the
47:25
Speaker 2: fact that both he and Megan pose for the photo
47:27
Speaker 2: opportunities right after the California fires when they were hugging people.
47:31
Speaker 2: I feel like he only makes these public appearances when
47:34
Speaker 2: there's cameras and photographs in the room. Otherwise you never
47:37
Speaker 2: hear from him at all. So I just find it
47:40
Speaker 2: all very unusual now, Kinsey. King Charles has privately congratulated
47:46
Speaker 2: Donald Trump on his inauguration.
47:49
Speaker 3: What has he said.
47:52
Speaker 12: Well, he talked about the enduring special relationship between the
47:56
Speaker 12: UK and the US, and this was confirmed by Bucky
48:00
Speaker 12: him Palace. But did you know that Milania and King
48:04
Speaker 12: Charles have been pen pals four years? I loved I
48:08
Speaker 12: don't know why I love that information so much, but
48:10
Speaker 12: I just think that is.
48:11
Speaker 3: The sweetest thing.
48:12
Speaker 12: So I'm not surprised that the King reached out to
48:17
Speaker 12: President Trump. You know, I do believe that there is
48:20
Speaker 12: a loving relationship between the families minus Prince Arian Megan Markle,
48:25
Speaker 12: but you know, they should probably be concerned about that.
48:28
Speaker 12: But yeah, I thought that that was super sweet of
48:30
Speaker 12: the King. But I'm not surprised knowing that he hand
48:34
Speaker 12: writes letters back and forth to our new first Lady
48:37
Speaker 12: Milania Trump.
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Speaker 2: I just think that is so special and so beautiful.
48:41
Speaker 2: And to be honest, Kinsey, I'm actually not surprised because
48:44
Speaker 2: King Charles is so traditional by the way he communicates,
48:48
Speaker 2: so probably sitting writing a letter means so much to him,
48:52
Speaker 2: and I've got to say I really appreciate that. But
48:54
Speaker 2: how sweets that they're pen pals. I think that's lovely,
48:57
Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield, good to see you. Thank you very much
48:59
Speaker 2: for me on the program this evening. Well that's it
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Speaker 2: for me.
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Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight. Good Night,