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Recapping Week 5: Seahawks at Saints · Hawk Talk

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Hawk Talk with former Seahawks wide receiver
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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus. Play Fank go to roll right, jumps it
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Speaker 1: off into the right flass to Michael Bumpers, who bounces
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Speaker 1: off on one tackler gets inside the forty down of
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Speaker 1: the thirty five yard line. Powered by Seahawks dot Com,
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Speaker 1: Matt pump fakes looking at the goal line. He throws
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Speaker 1: it into the end zone. Touchdown Saint Hawks. It's Michael
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Speaker 1: Bumpus with a diving catch in the end zone. Ten
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Speaker 1: yard touchdown reception for Bumpus, and the kid out of
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Speaker 1: Washington State has found himself a place on this team.
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Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Nasa Chubi. The Seahawks run of
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Speaker 1: near perfection during ten am starts takes a slight hit
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Speaker 1: as a fall thirty nine thirty two to the New
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Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. The Hawks coming into the game where twenty
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Speaker 1: two and seven during ten ames starts and now follow
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Speaker 1: twenty two and eight after a tough loss against the Saints.
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna dive into that matchup see how everything
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Speaker 1: went down, like we do every week, as we get
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Speaker 1: inside the trenches with Ray Roberts, it's time to go
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Speaker 1: inside the Trench with former Seahawk Ray Roberts. Ray. Well,
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Speaker 1: it was the second week in a row the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: were involved in a shootout. This time of like I
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Speaker 1: mentioned losing to the Saints thirty nine thirty two, and
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Speaker 1: I'd be remiss if I didn't start here. One of
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Speaker 1: the biggest stories come out of Sunday was the injury
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Speaker 1: to a shot Penny. You feel for a guy who's
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Speaker 1: been through so much in his career, and we heard
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll say today that, you know, he looks like
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Speaker 1: he broke that tibia in his leg and he's gonna,
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Speaker 1: you know, miss the rest of the season. So what
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Speaker 1: is this loss going to do to this team and
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Speaker 1: specifically this running game. Well, you know, I think I
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Speaker 1: think Paul More You're kind of hit it on the
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Speaker 1: head in the post game because I think they have
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Speaker 1: some capable backs that can come in. You know, with
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Speaker 1: the kid, the young kid Walker, I think he has
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Speaker 1: a different kind of dimension to how he runs, but
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the size that Penny has. Like Penny
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Speaker 1: has two hundred and thirty pounds. Running with speed and power,
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Speaker 1: You're running through some of those arm tackles, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the trenches and then been able to get to
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Speaker 1: the next level. And so I think you may miss
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Speaker 1: some of that. I don't want to say like not
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Speaker 1: like a physicality, like a like a Marshawn Lynch or
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Speaker 1: like a Chris Carson, but you missed. Uh, You're probably
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Speaker 1: gonna miss a little bit of that the size advantage
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Speaker 1: you have in the run game. But I'm like you man,
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Speaker 1: you know, Rashard Penny has worked really, really hard. I
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Speaker 1: remember last year doing one of or doing the preseason
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Speaker 1: one of his press conferences, and you know, he's really
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Speaker 1: soft spoken dude, and was saying, like, you know, he's
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Speaker 1: not trying to get hurt, you know, you know, and
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Speaker 1: he understands that, you know, people want to see him
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Speaker 1: on the field and that his job is to play football,
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Speaker 1: so he's not trying to get hurt. So here it
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Speaker 1: is again, he's got off to he ended the season
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Speaker 1: strong last year, was getting off to good start this year,
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Speaker 1: and then the Andrew team jumped on him again. So
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Speaker 1: I'm really feelful the dude, and uh, and we'll certainly
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Speaker 1: have keep him in my thoughts. So with with ken Walker,
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Speaker 1: ken Walker steps up. He has a huge run obviously,
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Speaker 1: do you think he's ready And do you think it
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Speaker 1: helped that he's been able to kind of sit behind
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Speaker 1: Rashard the last five games and not kind of be
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Speaker 1: the guy as he kind of transitions into right now
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Speaker 1: as the way back. Do you think he's ready for
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Speaker 1: that moment right now? Ray? You know, I think he
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Speaker 1: is because even in the game and in a few
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Speaker 1: games he's had a few carries. You know, he's kind
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Speaker 1: of been a little bit like he seems like very excitable.
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Speaker 1: You know, he got the ball in my hands. Oh man,
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Speaker 1: I gotta go do something. So he kind of, you know,
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Speaker 1: was kind of running, not out of control, but just
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Speaker 1: not in the type of control you used to seeing
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Speaker 1: him in. But then you can actually see in this
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Speaker 1: game he had you know, one or two carries earlier
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Speaker 1: where we saw like, man, he's like moving just a
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Speaker 1: little too fast, there was a little bit ahead of
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Speaker 1: the blocking, and then all of a sudden he kind
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Speaker 1: of got himself calmed down, made put his foot in
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Speaker 1: the ground, made the cut, and the next you know,
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Speaker 1: he has a big, big, long touchdown. So I think
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Speaker 1: he's ready. And the one thing about him I remember
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Speaker 1: him from college is that he was like led the
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Speaker 1: country or was like in the top you know, three
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Speaker 1: or four or five running backs in the country with
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Speaker 1: yards have to contact. So even though he's maybe twning
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Speaker 1: ten or fifteen pounds versus twening thirty five pounds, he
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Speaker 1: still has a knack for running through you know, tackles
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Speaker 1: and getting yards after contact. So I'm excited to see
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Speaker 1: what he brings. I think he'll probably had a little
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Speaker 1: bit more to the passing game. But also, you know,
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Speaker 1: with DJ Dallas and you know, I'm not sure who
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Speaker 1: else they may bring in, but DJ Dallas, you know,
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Speaker 1: can't you know, you know, count him out either. He's
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Speaker 1: going to do something every time he gets in there
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Speaker 1: to bring some value to the running back room. And
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Speaker 1: Big Ray. Speaking of running the football, I'm gonna flip
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Speaker 1: it over to the New Orleans Saints. Man. They had
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Speaker 1: a day. Takes Hill had one twelve or three touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: Camara had twenty three carries for one oh three Overall,
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Speaker 1: they ran at forty eight times for two hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty five yards. It's it's clear what teams are going
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Speaker 1: to do to attack the Seahawks. How do they at
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Speaker 1: least take a step forward in definity of the run game.
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Speaker 1: I have to fix it overnight. But how did they
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Speaker 1: get better? Yeah, you know, I think you know, we
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Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit last week leading into
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Speaker 1: that game. It's like, you know, I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys are trying to be assignment perfect and so
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Speaker 1: you tend to like play with a little less aggression
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Speaker 1: when you're just trying to make sure you get to
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Speaker 1: the right place. But now I think they didn't need
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Speaker 1: to get to the right place and then be football players,
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Speaker 1: so you know, getting off blocks and making tackles, making
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Speaker 1: sure you're in the same gap, but you're showing up
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Speaker 1: in the gap to make a play, not just by
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Speaker 1: so you get a plus on the on the on
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Speaker 1: the assignment um chart. And then we heard a lot
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Speaker 1: of the uh, you know, some of the veterans after
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Speaker 1: the game, you're just talking about the whole accountability thing.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's something they kind of went to a
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago and they had the big meeting
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Speaker 1: and uh had this big accountability thing, and it seemed
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Speaker 1: like the defense got better after that. So you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that, uh, this would be a time
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Speaker 1: to panic and like change your defense. But if there's
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Speaker 1: a way to get a bigger body uh. And on
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Speaker 1: the defensive line uh and some of those early rundowns.
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Speaker 1: I think it might help. Right now, when you run
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Speaker 1: like those three four concepts, you have natural um gap
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Speaker 1: so over the guards would make which make it easy
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Speaker 1: for them to get up to the linebackers. So that's
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Speaker 1: creating a problem. And then you have to maybe look
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Speaker 1: and see if if you have the type of defensive
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Speaker 1: lineman big news down that can really two gamped that
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Speaker 1: way and hold up a double team and not get
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Speaker 1: driven down the field. So there's a little bit of
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Speaker 1: adjustment I think they're gonna have to make. And then,
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Speaker 1: like we said, it's just gonna have to be a
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Speaker 1: little bit at a time. It's not gonna happen something overnight. Well, Ray,
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Speaker 1: give me something to look positive front. You know, obviously
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Speaker 1: the Seaffs are giving up a lot of yards right now. Defensively,
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Speaker 1: they did force four punts. The rookie Treek Willins had
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Speaker 1: three games with three turnovers. Kobe Bryant made a couple
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Speaker 1: of plays. What are you seeing from that defense? On
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Speaker 1: a good note that you think is going to translate
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Speaker 1: moving forward this year and give you know, fans out
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Speaker 1: there a reason to be excited about the potential of
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Speaker 1: this defense turning things around. Well, the one person that
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Speaker 1: I've just been bawling like all the last year and
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Speaker 1: this year is Al Woods. I mean, he's a force
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Speaker 1: in the middle. We saw yesterday where he took on
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Speaker 1: the center, took on the guard, took on the tackle,
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Speaker 1: and then made the tackle in the backfield. So he's
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Speaker 1: playing some really good football and he's really trying to
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Speaker 1: hold down when he can in the middle. I think
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Speaker 1: Niosu didn't have as many stats this pass, but he
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Speaker 1: has been a good pick up for the Seahawks. He's
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Speaker 1: been very active getting after the quarterback and getting hits
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Speaker 1: on the quarterback and making plays. And then you have
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Speaker 1: to look at those the two rookies. You know, Kobe
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Speaker 1: Bryant has been on the um. You know, had maybe
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Speaker 1: a couple of penalties, but he's also created two fumbles
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Speaker 1: in the last two games. And then Tari would and
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Speaker 1: like you said, is three games I guess in the
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Speaker 1: row with interception. So all those things are things to
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Speaker 1: look good. I think yesterday, um, the Jordan Brooks that
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Speaker 1: we were expecting to see kind of showed up. He
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Speaker 1: made some some big hits and some big tackles around
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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage versus you know, a lot of
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Speaker 1: yards down the field. So I think those are some
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Speaker 1: really good things to look to look after. I think
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Speaker 1: Darryl Taylor, you know, like watching him a little bit
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Speaker 1: more closely yesterday, Like he's not getting as much um
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Speaker 1: uh playmaking this as he was last year. But also
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Speaker 1: he's getting double team a lot, so they're putting their
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Speaker 1: they're chipping in with the tight end and then he
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Speaker 1: has to get through the tackle, so it may be
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Speaker 1: opening it up for other guys to do some damage.
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Speaker 1: So even though he doesn't have the numbers we would like,
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Speaker 1: he's pulling attention away from other folks. So to me,
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Speaker 1: those are good things. Those are good things to think
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Speaker 1: about this. And the other thing is that they have
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Speaker 1: all the pieces. They have all the players, even once
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Speaker 1: Jamal Adam has been out, you know Neil as a playmaker.
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Speaker 1: You know, they have guys that can make plays. They
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Speaker 1: just have to, you know, get a hold of that
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Speaker 1: accountability thing, show up with bad intentions and then and
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Speaker 1: then remember that they're football players. You know that they
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Speaker 1: don't have to just it's not just about being a
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Speaker 1: right with the assignment. But it's just getting to the
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Speaker 1: assignment and then doing what you're what you're paid to
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Speaker 1: do with Just play football. Stop folks, Hey, Ray, this
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Speaker 1: is the fifth week in a row. I look at
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position and I'm just um optimistic. I love
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Speaker 1: what I'm seeing Now. We saw this offense go one
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Speaker 1: for nine on third downs, But how they made up
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Speaker 1: for this was just six explosive plays. Man, they had
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Speaker 1: to drive a five player seventy five yard touchdown. Three
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Speaker 1: plays fifty yard touchdown, three seventy five yard touchdowns. Like
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Speaker 1: they're showing a different dynamic. We knew Gino was a
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Speaker 1: conduct type of guy, but now he's stowing the full
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Speaker 1: ball down the field. Um, what did that make you
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Speaker 1: think about this offense overall? Is it safe to say
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Speaker 1: they're complete? You know, It's like there's an old saying,
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Speaker 1: when people show you who they are, you should believe them,
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Speaker 1: and so I think Gino has certainly done that. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, we thought this was going to be a
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Speaker 1: big test because this is one of the top defenses
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Speaker 1: in the league and Gino just look like the same
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Speaker 1: old Gino that he's been been all year. Like the
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Speaker 1: dimes he's been dropping the way he has has command
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Speaker 1: of the offense, I think, even though it's just starting
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Speaker 1: to get a little attention, but the idea if you
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Speaker 1: have two rookie tackles playing and they're not getting a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of help, and they're taking on the better
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Speaker 1: pass rushers in this league by themselves, and over the
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Speaker 1: last two games, I think they gave up maybe one
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Speaker 1: sack and one hit. So those guys are really balling out.
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Speaker 1: And then they're showing the ability to run the ball,
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Speaker 1: not just m when they want to run the ball,
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Speaker 1: like sometimes like it's easy to run the ball when
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Speaker 1: you know you're throwing the ball all over the place
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Speaker 1: and the thief has a softened up, But when the
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Speaker 1: defense knows you want to run the ball and you're
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Speaker 1: able to run the ball, then that says a lot
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Speaker 1: about the efficiency of your of your blocking up front.
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Speaker 1: So I like what they see in the offense. This
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Speaker 1: is what I was expecting to see. H teene Waldron
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Speaker 1: game play calling, Geno's ability to have the freedom to
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Speaker 1: check out the line of scrimmage and put them in
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Speaker 1: the right place. All those things just seem to be
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Speaker 1: coming together at the right time for this for this
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Speaker 1: offense and for this team, and so if you get
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Speaker 1: the defense kind of going, then this could be a
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Speaker 1: way better season than a lot of people have thought.
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Speaker 1: And already the offensive, you know, are way better than
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Speaker 1: of what a lot of people thought. I hope you're right, Ray,
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Speaker 1: I feel good about it. I feel great about this offense.
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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, I think they're they're there. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of good players on this team. They're
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Speaker 1: places to be made. They can get a lot better,
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Speaker 1: and I think hopefully we'll start to see that. Ray.
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Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you breaking it down and hopping
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Speaker 1: on with us, and we will talk to you next week.
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Speaker 1: All right, Sure, you guys have a good one. Thanks Ray.
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Speaker 1: That was inside the trenches with Ray Roberts. Now it's
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Speaker 1: tiding to figure out what had happened. See what happened
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Speaker 1: at first, what had happened was unhard knock. Well, Um,
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Speaker 1: if you've learned anything about watching Seahawks football in the
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Speaker 1: last I don't know, fifteen years, you know it's nothing
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Speaker 1: disappoint It's gonna be entertaining. And my mess with your
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Speaker 1: heart a little bit, and my mess with that heart
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Speaker 1: right up down, up down, Sunday did not disappoint terms
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Speaker 1: of that being an up and down crazy game. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: it was disappointing in the final outcome as the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: lose to the Saints. Things got going pretty okay, you know, defensively,
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Speaker 1: they get a stop, you know, the Saints kick a
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Speaker 1: field goal, throw up three nothing. Then the Seahawks answer
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Speaker 1: with a five play seventy five yard drive ending with
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Speaker 1: the fifty yard bomb the DK metcalf making the score
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Speaker 1: seventy three. And I just love how they start. Man,
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Speaker 1: They're starting fast. Geno's in control from the first snap
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Speaker 1: of the game, taking him down on a nice drive,
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Speaker 1: and he's always poised. He's moving to his left, he's
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Speaker 1: doing things in the pocket and lending that and fly
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Speaker 1: down the field. So it was great to see that,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of start the game off on a
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Speaker 1: good note. Yeah, they start off on a good note.
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Speaker 1: And then they hold the Saints to a field goal.
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Speaker 1: So you're looking at the defense, You're like, okay, we're
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Speaker 1: making some progress. You held him to him a field goal,
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Speaker 1: and then the Hawks will get the ball. Boom. Jason
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Speaker 1: Marris kicks a field goal, right we saw him last week,
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Speaker 1: miss one so we're seeing positivity early. We're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: you hold the Saints to a field goal, you drive
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Speaker 1: down the field, you score with DK, and then you
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Speaker 1: kick a field goal. You're up ten to three. Then
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Speaker 1: the Saints will kind of find their group. They go
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Speaker 1: on to ten place sixty nine yard drive with Taysom
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Speaker 1: Hill just the beginning of the day for Taysom Hill,
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Speaker 1: and they had an eight yard touchdown time the score
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Speaker 1: at ten ten. We saw a lot of this throughout
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Speaker 1: the game. Now it's number seven was getting busy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Taysom hill Man, we know what he was at YU,
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Speaker 1: we know what he is in the NFL. But he's
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Speaker 1: a Swiss Army Knife. He is a guy that you
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Speaker 1: cannot replicating for that Staints offense. He's everything. He's a receiver,
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Speaker 1: he's a quarterback, he's a running back, he's running back
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Speaker 1: kickoff returns, he's running down on plunt, he's running down
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Speaker 1: on special team. So he's Taysom Hill. He brought it
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Speaker 1: last Sunday and that it was rough for that Seahawks defense.
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Speaker 1: You know, as the game though went on, they would
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Speaker 1: both teams would exchange punts. Seahawks go three and out,
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Speaker 1: leading to another Michael Dixon punt, and this is where
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Speaker 1: things kind of broke down. Pete Carroll said after the game.
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Speaker 1: It was indeed not a fake punt, you know. It
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Speaker 1: was rugby style punt where the punter kind of holds
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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, runs to the riot, everyone
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Speaker 1: kind of shuffles and they punted down. Unfortunately, things got
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Speaker 1: a little messy. Michael Dixon didn't think he'd get the
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Speaker 1: punt off, and eventually it was tackled by believe Taysom Hill.
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Speaker 1: Ye people God, for an eight yard loss and the
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Speaker 1: Saints took over Boom. Two plays theater, they're in the
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Speaker 1: end zone with again a Taysom Hill touchdown, making the
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Speaker 1: score seventeen ten. Yeah, they made it seventeen ten. And
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Speaker 1: then we saw a familiar thing rookie's making plays right.
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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant was forced to fumble, so Rik Willin will
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Speaker 1: recover it, and then that set up at thirty five
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Speaker 1: yard touchdown from Genome to Tyler Locket, making a score
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Speaker 1: nineteen to seventeen. And then the second half started out
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Speaker 1: bad for the Seahawks. Many get a fumble by DK
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Speaker 1: medcalf I didn't think it was a fumble that elbow
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Speaker 1: looked down to me, but I'm not the referee. I'm
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Speaker 1: not in New York. And that's set a big Chris
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Speaker 1: Olave touchdown, making the score twenty four two nineteen. That
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Speaker 1: was a tough swing right there. Tough swing. Seahawks have
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Speaker 1: momentum coming out of the half. They turn it over
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Speaker 1: on that possession, like you said, and I thought DK
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Speaker 1: was down, and then and then on the flip side
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Speaker 1: the Olive touchdown. You know, I probably think they got
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Speaker 1: it right, but it was still just to have those
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Speaker 1: bang bang calls both go against you like that, for
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Speaker 1: DKs to be a fumble and then Allive is to
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Speaker 1: be a catch through. It was just it was a
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Speaker 1: really tough break and then you know, fourteen point swing
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Speaker 1: for the Seahawks potentially. Then as a game, continuing three
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Speaker 1: three straight Seahawk punts, they did get back in the
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Speaker 1: end zone with an amazing forty yard bomb from Gino
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Speaker 1: Smith to Tyler Lockett, making it thirty one twenty five.
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Speaker 1: The Hawks would then force another punt, setting up a
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Speaker 1: sixty nine yard touchdown round by ken Walker, making the
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Speaker 1: score thirty two to thirty one with sixty fifty four
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Speaker 1: remaining in the fourth quarter bump. Things were looking good. Yep,
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Speaker 1: it was looking good. But however, that was the last
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Speaker 1: time the Seahawks would leave. The Saints would answer right
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Speaker 1: back man with a sixty yard a touchdown run by
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Speaker 1: who other Whoever. Then it'll Taysom breaking Hill making a
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Speaker 1: score thirty nine at thirty two, and then the Hawks
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Speaker 1: would punt in their and sewing possession, then initially ending
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Speaker 1: the game. That was tough because you felt like it
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Speaker 1: was a one band, one man band named Taysom Hill
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Speaker 1: with a sprinkle of Kamara in there, and that was
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Speaker 1: enough for the Saints a get or done. Yeah. The
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Speaker 1: Saints dominate time in possession thirty seven to thirty seven
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Speaker 1: and thirty five to twenty two twenty five. Saints had
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Speaker 1: four hundred and thirty yards of total offense to rush
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Speaker 1: for two hundred thirty five as you mentioned earlier, and
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks were also penalized twelve times for eighty five yards.
15:49
Speaker 1: That's definitely something they want to get cleaned up. It's
15:51
Speaker 1: kind of lingered throughout the last couple of weeks, and
15:55
Speaker 1: this is another disappointing game. You know, the Seahawks were
15:57
Speaker 1: state here at two and three definitely in the thick
15:59
Speaker 1: of it right now in the NFC West. But you
16:02
Speaker 1: just look at that and you go, man, you look
16:03
Speaker 1: at that schedule and you think, at the very least
16:05
Speaker 1: this team should probably be four and one yep, easily, easily. Man.
16:09
Speaker 1: It's and that's the disappointing part, but it could be
16:11
Speaker 1: the part that makes you optimistic because you feel like
16:14
Speaker 1: they should be fourgn one. So they're doing enough things
16:16
Speaker 1: to be in the game. It's got to tighten up
16:18
Speaker 1: some things. No to nine defense, gott to tighten up offense.
16:21
Speaker 1: Can't go one for nine on third downs again this week.
16:24
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, rating this together, stay in the fight.
16:28
Speaker 1: Come on, man, let's go. All right, let's see you
16:30
Speaker 1: made some plays. Playmakers got started. The quarterback Geno Smith
16:44
Speaker 1: killing the game sixteen and twenty five two hundred and
16:47
Speaker 1: sixty eight yards, three touchdowns, zero interceptions, QB rating of
16:50
Speaker 1: one thirty nine point seven. Still had a sixty four
16:54
Speaker 1: percent complete or percentage, which is pretty good for most
16:57
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the National Football League, But for Gino Smith,
17:00
Speaker 1: that was his worst completion percentage by a little bit
17:03
Speaker 1: this whole season, or let's first time this year he's
17:05
Speaker 1: been under seventy two percent, obviously still playing great football,
17:08
Speaker 1: gave him a chance to win. I deluded to it earlier.
17:11
Speaker 1: He's made a ton of plays, rolling to his leaf,
17:13
Speaker 1: that diming through the nowad fan the ball he through
17:15
Speaker 1: to Tyler Lockett's flitting the safeties at the end of
17:18
Speaker 1: the half there. I was stunned by kind of how
17:21
Speaker 1: the New Orleans played that at the end of the
17:23
Speaker 1: half time and score. They looked like they were in
17:25
Speaker 1: kind of like a Tampa two look, and they were
17:26
Speaker 1: just you know, Tyler Lockett, this finds way in to
17:29
Speaker 1: see him in. The ball was thrown only where Tyler kokatch.
17:31
Speaker 1: Just so, Geno Smith is playing at an MVP type level,
17:34
Speaker 1: and he's doing a week after week after week. So
17:36
Speaker 1: at some point, as Ray said it, he is showing
17:39
Speaker 1: you who he is, right, this is who he is,
17:42
Speaker 1: and that the road to Tyler Lockett you mentioned it
17:46
Speaker 1: was on the dime. Tyler does a good job moving
17:48
Speaker 1: the safety. I mean he's showing folks I can throw
17:50
Speaker 1: that football down in the field too. Said with Ray,
17:52
Speaker 1: I'm not just some dink and dumb type of guy.
17:54
Speaker 1: Next playmaker, We're gonna depend on this guy heavily. Now
17:56
Speaker 1: that rare shot Penny is out, it's Ken Walker. Eight
17:59
Speaker 1: carries eighty a yards, one touchdown, scored his first NFL touchdown.
18:03
Speaker 1: His first touchdown for Michigan State when he transferred was
18:06
Speaker 1: a seventh yard touchdown. His first touchdown with the Seahawks
18:09
Speaker 1: sixty nine yard touchdown. I missed it by by one yard.
18:13
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna depend on this young man. And
18:15
Speaker 1: you see what he can do. You see the shiftiness,
18:17
Speaker 1: you see the speed. I think once he learns the
18:19
Speaker 1: temple of the game, he's a bit more patient in
18:21
Speaker 1: that zone. Look, he's going to be fine. But this
18:24
Speaker 1: is why you draft the running back this because you
18:26
Speaker 1: don't know. With Rashad Penny, he's shown that he know
18:29
Speaker 1: he gets banged up, and you never wish this on
18:32
Speaker 1: Rashad and Penny the whole twenty. You get better, man,
18:34
Speaker 1: you come back strong. But this is why you have
18:36
Speaker 1: a stable full of running backs. Oh absolutely, you can
18:38
Speaker 1: never have enough running backs. And you mentioned it with Rashad.
18:41
Speaker 1: Rashad is one of the best dudes in this locker room.
18:43
Speaker 1: And I my heart hurts for him because I know
18:45
Speaker 1: how hard he's worked, I know how humble he is,
18:47
Speaker 1: I know how just appreciative he is to have the
18:49
Speaker 1: opportunity to go out with his teammates every week. And
18:51
Speaker 1: he was bawling, he was falling. He was gonna be
18:53
Speaker 1: at a pace where I swear, you know, I think
18:55
Speaker 1: we mentioned it on Hawks Live. You know, if he
18:56
Speaker 1: got the right amount of carries, I think he could
18:58
Speaker 1: be a top rusher in that l I think he
19:01
Speaker 1: was top three. That was the pace he was gonna
19:02
Speaker 1: be on. So huge bummer. But as you alluded to,
19:05
Speaker 1: I know the Seahawks took a lot of you know,
19:07
Speaker 1: flack for drafting and running back in the second round. Well,
19:11
Speaker 1: believe it or not, it looks like John Schneider and
19:13
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll company know what they're doing. Sure mind know
19:15
Speaker 1: a little bit. So no, I love to see it.
19:18
Speaker 1: I think Ken Walker is is gonna be a big
19:19
Speaker 1: part of this office moving forward. So hoping we get
19:22
Speaker 1: more of that. The other playmaker, Tyler Lockett five reception,
19:25
Speaker 1: two hundred and four yards, two touchdowns. Lockett passed his
19:28
Speaker 1: teammate Doug Baldwin for fifth place on Seattle's all time
19:31
Speaker 1: total touchdowns list fifty, also past Sean Alexander for second
19:35
Speaker 1: place on Seattle's all time combines yard lists. And the
19:39
Speaker 1: crazy thing about Tyler bump as he did all of
19:41
Speaker 1: that in the second half. Tyler had zero receptions at halftime.
19:44
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned right for the halftime show, like,
19:46
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyler's gotta target yet, and then just
19:49
Speaker 1: goes off in the second half. Yeah, Tyler man, he's
19:52
Speaker 1: he's sneaky, mister consistent, misreliable. You can always count on
19:56
Speaker 1: sixteen to make some plays where there's either intermediate or
19:59
Speaker 1: deep talk about the other receiver over there. Number fourteen,
20:02
Speaker 1: Dk Metcalfy had five receptions eighty eight yards one touchdown.
20:06
Speaker 1: Metcalf scored his thirty first career receiving touchdown, tying him
20:09
Speaker 1: with Steve Largen for third place for the most receiving
20:12
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the players first four seasons in franchise history.
20:15
Speaker 1: All Right, so every time they have a game, they're
20:17
Speaker 1: gonna hit a new market, seems like, because that's two
20:19
Speaker 1: weeks in a row where they're passing somebody up for something.
20:22
Speaker 1: And DK could have had two touchdowns. I'm sure he's
20:24
Speaker 1: watching the film right kicking him stuff. But DK and
20:28
Speaker 1: Lockett having solid games at the same time. That's the
20:31
Speaker 1: first time that's happened this year. Usually I think they
20:33
Speaker 1: take turns. One guy leads to charge, the other guy
20:37
Speaker 1: plays robbing to the batman. But it was nice seeing
20:40
Speaker 1: Milakee get going and seeing DK do it as well. Yep,
20:43
Speaker 1: gotta love it both those two. This offense obviously goes
20:46
Speaker 1: with the run game, but at fourteen and sixteen are
20:48
Speaker 1: making plays. They're definitely a dangerous unit going on the
20:52
Speaker 1: defensive side, Chariq Willing just being consistent, mister rookie man.
20:56
Speaker 1: Four tackles, one interception, one pass offended, one fumble recovery,
21:00
Speaker 1: and man, that's three consecutive games with an interception. He's
21:03
Speaker 1: just making plays. He is just making plays. And you
21:05
Speaker 1: go a week before that he blocks a kick at
21:07
Speaker 1: San Francisco. He is just putting his imprint on every
21:11
Speaker 1: game plan and they're not micro Strufant mentioned it. A
21:14
Speaker 1: lot of guys have talked about it. He's getting interceptions,
21:16
Speaker 1: but he's taking the ball away. Ball is not just
21:19
Speaker 1: being thrown to him. It's not an overthrow like, oh,
21:21
Speaker 1: you know, lucky interception. No, he's making plays out there.
21:24
Speaker 1: Great technique. I love what I'm seeing from the rookie
21:26
Speaker 1: and he's just been I don't know where this defense
21:29
Speaker 1: will be without Trek Won right now, and it's just
21:31
Speaker 1: it's just a blessing to see where he's at and
21:33
Speaker 1: just scary to see how good he can become. I mean,
21:37
Speaker 1: Ryani said the post game instead, they're gonna stop testing
21:39
Speaker 1: that man. You know they're gonna they're gonna see it
21:41
Speaker 1: on film and stop throwing at him. But I hope
21:42
Speaker 1: they do, because you're throwing at him. Tarka is gonna
21:44
Speaker 1: come up with an interception. Last playmakers Jordan brooks Man,
21:49
Speaker 1: he had eleven tackles, one pass defending, one QB hit,
21:52
Speaker 1: was probably the best player on defense against the Saints,
21:56
Speaker 1: and he was playing with an intensity then we haven't
21:58
Speaker 1: seen yet. I mean, he's making open filled tackles and
22:01
Speaker 1: he's not just getting him to the ground, he's driving
22:03
Speaker 1: him to the ground. He's making the violent play, very physical,
22:06
Speaker 1: fast type of player. That was his game. That's what
22:09
Speaker 1: we knew of him, you know what I'm saying. So
22:10
Speaker 1: it's nice to see him get back to the old
22:12
Speaker 1: Jordan breaks. He's always filled up the stat the stat line,
22:15
Speaker 1: that's what he does every single game. But he played
22:17
Speaker 1: with a different type of intensity this game. Yeah, Jordan
22:20
Speaker 1: Brooks is a guy that I've been saying for a
22:23
Speaker 1: couple of years now. I think he's going to jump
22:25
Speaker 1: to that Pro Bowl, you know, getting votes for All
22:29
Speaker 1: Pro type status eventually, and I think I think yesterday
22:32
Speaker 1: was the start of just him playing with that, and
22:34
Speaker 1: he kind of just felt like he was playing more. Obviously,
22:36
Speaker 1: it's tough in this scheme when you got guards in
22:38
Speaker 1: everyone getting that second level quickly, but he was just
22:40
Speaker 1: playing fast and aggressive. So love to see it from him. Now.
22:44
Speaker 1: Flipping back to the offense, taking a look at this
22:46
Speaker 1: wide receiver round up, looks like still spreading the wealth
22:50
Speaker 1: around one, two, three, four, five, six different guys with
22:53
Speaker 1: receptions on Sunday. Yeah, that's always good man. I like
22:56
Speaker 1: being around six to eight. You get six to eight
22:58
Speaker 1: guys involved in the past game means you're getting your
23:01
Speaker 1: two headed monster in DK and Tyler involved, and then
23:04
Speaker 1: you typically get three tight ends involved in a couple
23:08
Speaker 1: of running backs and a miscellaneous type dud. But that's
23:10
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. NOE Fan probably had his most targets
23:12
Speaker 1: all year. He had five targets, three receptions forty nine
23:16
Speaker 1: yards uncle Will had two for twenty one. DJ Dallas
23:18
Speaker 1: got in the mix as well. Then d Eskers with
23:21
Speaker 1: a target. We saw him out on the field a
23:22
Speaker 1: lot more than we have in the past few weeks,
23:24
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the forth shadowing there. We might see
23:27
Speaker 1: a little bit more of D squares number one. Yeah,
23:30
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk about d Stritch again in the
23:32
Speaker 1: second here as we flip over the coach's corner, one
23:35
Speaker 1: of the best plays from Sunday and that was ken
23:37
Speaker 1: Walker taking it sixty nine yards to the house. Walker
23:41
Speaker 1: the single setback a tight slot on the right side
23:44
Speaker 1: is Escridge and Locket. Gino now walks over to talk
23:47
Speaker 1: to them, comes back to the work center, talks to Medcalf.
23:52
Speaker 1: Now goes under center on second down in short turns
23:55
Speaker 1: hands for Walker, got a little running room, brek free
23:57
Speaker 1: forty good fail, he is gonna go forty thirty twenty.
24:01
Speaker 1: Look at the rookie cuts down Shayhawks ken Walker the third,
24:08
Speaker 1: he's been bumping around in there all afternoon, finally finds
24:12
Speaker 1: a gap and he is gone sixty nine yards hold
24:16
Speaker 1: a touchdown, scamper him. The Seahawks have tied this up
24:20
Speaker 1: at thirty one a piece um break it down for us. Man.
24:25
Speaker 1: It's a little zone. Lucky guy. You got Uncle Will
24:28
Speaker 1: to the right at the tighten spot attached to the
24:30
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You got sixteen and number one Dscris
24:34
Speaker 1: to the right of uncle Will Disley, and it's just
24:37
Speaker 1: a zone left. Look, and here's the thing about this zone.
24:40
Speaker 1: The zone. You always want to give the play side
24:42
Speaker 1: a chance to work. You press the b gap to
24:44
Speaker 1: the play side, that's the left side, and then if
24:46
Speaker 1: nothing's there, you look for that cutback. I'm gonna save
24:49
Speaker 1: d Askris for you because I know what you're gonna say, Bouts.
24:51
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about Uncle Will and Tyler Lockett on
24:53
Speaker 1: this right here. Uncle Wood is a great job of
24:56
Speaker 1: not feeling that d n Cam Jordan but forcing him
25:00
Speaker 1: out sign in the number sixteen. Tyler Lockett not the
25:02
Speaker 1: biggest man in the world, but understands, Okay, if there's
25:05
Speaker 1: a cut bat lane, I have to make sure I
25:06
Speaker 1: have some inside levershare to hold off this defender. And
25:10
Speaker 1: then ken Walker just has the vision, the flow and
25:13
Speaker 1: the speed to turn on the jets. You see Tyler
25:15
Speaker 1: Lockets celebrating as soon as he turns and looks touchdown,
25:18
Speaker 1: first touchdown of young career ken Walker yep, first of
25:22
Speaker 1: hopefully many touchdowns for ken Walker. His explosiveness is it's
25:25
Speaker 1: good to see the Seahawks, even without war Shot Penny,
25:28
Speaker 1: have another legitimate home run threat in the backfield. He
25:31
Speaker 1: looks like he's going to pick up right where Shot
25:33
Speaker 1: Penny left off on explosive plays over thirty yards hopefully
25:36
Speaker 1: a lot more touchdowns. But Bumpy mentioned it and d
25:39
Speaker 1: Espridge hasn't done a lot in the statue necessarily, but
25:41
Speaker 1: he's playing a lot more. And if you want to
25:43
Speaker 1: start making plays, it starts right here in the run
25:46
Speaker 1: game you mentioned him. He's at the top of the
25:47
Speaker 1: formation and he gets a blocke on the safety and
25:50
Speaker 1: that's a touchdown block. That's a block that really springs him.
25:53
Speaker 1: You know, ken Walker has a great vision, he cuts back,
25:55
Speaker 1: he's in the second level, but what really gets him
25:58
Speaker 1: is the estridges block on the safety, and then he
26:00
Speaker 1: also gets just enough the safety to kind of get
26:02
Speaker 1: him in the other defensive backs way and then with
26:04
Speaker 1: ken Walker speed, he's gone. You know, so I love that.
26:07
Speaker 1: And who's the first person down there to celebrate with him?
26:10
Speaker 1: Ds Rich and you know another thing I like about
26:12
Speaker 1: the rookie is he I guess the yes is a
26:15
Speaker 1: second year player, but he's essentially a rookie because he
26:17
Speaker 1: missed so much time last year. Yeah, he even let
26:19
Speaker 1: ken Walker do his thing. Wasn't sure where the celebration
26:21
Speaker 1: was gonna be let him do his thing, don't interrupt
26:24
Speaker 1: it till he's done, and then he celebrate with your boys.
26:26
Speaker 1: So love what I'm seeing from Dskros. That was a
26:28
Speaker 1: fun play and Ken ken Walker, Man, I think Bump
26:31
Speaker 1: we got something good here. Tom to roll, Let's go Kim.
26:34
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we were in our favorite formation last week. We
26:38
Speaker 1: had been away from him for two weeks. But unfortunately
26:40
Speaker 1: clock ran out once again. Une taking them fire Huntley.
26:47
Speaker 1: They're just gonna let the clock wind down. But it's
26:49
Speaker 1: not even gonna bother taking that last time out. Seahawks
26:53
Speaker 1: really came down to them not being able to stop
26:56
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, who I want to say almost single handily
26:58
Speaker 1: won the game for the Saints. Nine carries, one hundred
27:01
Speaker 1: and twelve yards, three touchdowns. Also is one for one
27:04
Speaker 1: passing with twenty two yards and a touchdown, a counter
27:07
Speaker 1: for all but one touchdown, and it was really the
27:09
Speaker 1: do it all guy for the Saints on Sunday, and
27:11
Speaker 1: he definitely made the Seahawks hurt for it. Yeah. Man,
27:14
Speaker 1: it was a Taysom Hill show. And I said a
27:17
Speaker 1: sprinkle of album Camara earlier though, still had over one
27:20
Speaker 1: hundred yards on the ground. You know what I'm saying.
27:21
Speaker 1: It's Taysom Hill just did it all. You mentioned three touchdowns,
27:24
Speaker 1: one passing touchdown. It was just too many explosive plays, right.
27:28
Speaker 1: You got what six yard run by a Taysom Hill,
27:30
Speaker 1: you got a fifty four yard run by Camara. It's
27:32
Speaker 1: just right when you think you had them bottled up,
27:35
Speaker 1: they will make a play. And they dominated the time
27:37
Speaker 1: of possession. If you don't have the ball all right,
27:39
Speaker 1: you're not controlling the temple of the game. You can't
27:41
Speaker 1: make that many plays. Saints held the ball for thirty
27:43
Speaker 1: seven minutes, the Hawks helder for twenty two. Yeah, and
27:46
Speaker 1: then you look at total offense. Saints four hundred and
27:49
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards. The Seahawks did, okay, they had three
27:52
Speaker 1: ninety six. But when you're giving up consistently over four
27:54
Speaker 1: hundred yards of offense, it's gonna be hard to win
27:56
Speaker 1: any of those games. Giving up over two hundred rush yards.
27:59
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to win any of those games.
28:00
Speaker 1: And it sucks because they did get off the field
28:02
Speaker 1: of times. They did make some plays, but you know,
28:05
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario for them, you know, things just
28:07
Speaker 1: happen breaking down on key plays and just too much
28:10
Speaker 1: of that, unfortunately, and too many big plays for them
28:12
Speaker 1: to get anything done. Big plays and penalties. The Hawks
28:16
Speaker 1: are penalized twelve times for eighty five yards. That is
28:20
Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster, big plays, penalty, and those penalties
28:23
Speaker 1: were timely too. There's a couple of third down penalties.
28:25
Speaker 1: There were one for eight on third down, so that
28:28
Speaker 1: contributed to it as well. But you know how this
28:30
Speaker 1: league goes, man, watch the film, learn from it. You
28:34
Speaker 1: still gotta play ball, baby, come on. And again, it's
28:38
Speaker 1: disappointing in a loss as we sit here on Monday
28:41
Speaker 1: telling the truth about what happened yesterday. But this team
28:43
Speaker 1: has shown a ton of reasons why they can be successful.
28:47
Speaker 1: We said it earlier. This team easily could be four
28:50
Speaker 1: and one on the season, and I think it's something
28:52
Speaker 1: that they're gonna get there. It just needs some time. Luckily,
28:54
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some home cooking as they return home
28:56
Speaker 1: to Looman Field. This Sunday taken on the Arizona Cardinals.
29:00
Speaker 1: That could be busy down there in Soda, but we'll
29:02
Speaker 1: be back with you guys on Wednesday to let you
29:05
Speaker 1: know all about the team, the Cardinals. We were playing
29:07
Speaker 1: from my co host, Michael Bambas, I'm Nasa Chobe. This
29:10
Speaker 1: has been another edition of Hawk Talk. Unfortunately, the Seahawks
29:12
Speaker 1: drop the game to the Saints thirty nine thirty two.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you on Wednesday.