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Max Muncy: WS tattoos, Deferrals, Ohtani trolling + No Imai for SF? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: And we've got Max Munzi ready to go back to
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  Speaker 1: back champ with us on FT Max, good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: While we were talking about it for a moment, AJ
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  Speaker 1: and me were in some silly deferrals debate yesterday. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to bring that to this, but I do
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  Speaker 1: want to bring this part of the conversation up.
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  Speaker 2: Max.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that the Dodgers are actually not the
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  Speaker 1: only team that gives out deferrals? Almost every deal I've
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  Speaker 1: been reading this offseason involves other teams giving out deferrals.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Dylan c Scott a chunk of deferrals. So
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  Speaker 1: it's it's maybe not as unfair in the landscape as
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  Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be, or as some
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  Speaker 1: people are told by the league.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, I mean, every team's always
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  Speaker 2: been allowed to do it. It's not like we crack
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  Speaker 2: some secret code. Yeah. Like I said, every team's always
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  Speaker 2: been allowed to do it, and that's that's how it's
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  Speaker 2: always been. It's uh uh, it just you have to
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  Speaker 2: as a player, you have to, you know, want to
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  Speaker 2: agree to that. And then you know, my understanding of
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  Speaker 2: how the deferrals work is the club has to be
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  Speaker 2: able to front that money even though they're not paying
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  Speaker 2: it to you. They stuff to be able to cover
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  Speaker 2: that money right away. And so that might be where
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  Speaker 2: it gets tricky with the clubs and not want to
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  Speaker 2: do deferrals. But uh yeah, every team has always been
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  Speaker 2: allowed to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is I wasn't gonna ask this until
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  Speaker 3: you said it. But did you ever see a time
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  Speaker 3: when Showhey was like, guys, can I borrow a few
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  Speaker 3: bucks because he was only making two million dollars this year?
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  Speaker 3: Or was he was? He totally find the same generous
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  Speaker 3: show Hey that he's always been a.
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  Speaker 2: Mean shows never changed. I mean, let's be honest, Shows
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  Speaker 2: doing just fine with with his off the field stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So h you know, I think I think he's doing
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good, I'm glad you. I'm glad you clean that up.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm going to go to your teammates because another
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  Speaker 3: team had something come up that I thought was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a know nothingness to talk about. But it was
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  Speaker 3: arguments between players. Certain players will argue about how somebody
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  Speaker 3: made a play or whatever. You guys won the World
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  Speaker 3: Series this year, did you have any arguments at all
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  Speaker 3: during one hundred and sixty two game plus spring training,
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  Speaker 3: plus World Series moment where somebody had to call somebody out,
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  Speaker 3: somebody was mad at somebody else during the entire season.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one of the unique things with our roster
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  Speaker 2: is there's so much experience and you know, veterancy that
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  Speaker 2: you know, when people get called out, it's never an argument.
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  Speaker 2: It's always you know, hey, this is how we probably
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  Speaker 2: should have done this, this is how you need to
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  Speaker 2: do this. And like, there's so much respect for everyone
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  Speaker 2: inside the clubhouse that that never turns into an argument.
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  Speaker 2: It's always a discussion. It's you know, if if someone
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  Speaker 2: came to me and was like, hey, you should do this,
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  Speaker 2: I would tell them, all right, this is what I
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  Speaker 2: was thinking. You're right, I prob I should have done
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  Speaker 2: this way, But this is what was going through my
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  Speaker 2: head at that moment. That's why I did it this way.
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  Speaker 2: And that's happened several times throughout the course, you know,
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  Speaker 2: of all the seasons I've been there, where they's just
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  Speaker 2: it just turns into discussions instead of hey, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing. You need to pull your head out of
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  Speaker 2: your you know, pull your head out of your butt,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's never it's never been that
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  Speaker 2: way since I've been here with the Dodgers, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of discussions that go on with
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  Speaker 2: but it's it's it's just grown men having conversations about
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  Speaker 2: what we need to do to be better at certain things.
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  Speaker 2: And you know that that's just the whole team holding
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  Speaker 2: each other accountable and it's never escalated to the point
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  Speaker 2: of being you know, an argument that's that's caught on camera.
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  Speaker 4: Max, Is that from Dave? Is that from Doc?
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  Speaker 5: Or is that from guys like you and Freddie and
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  Speaker 5: Mookie and Clayton.
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  Speaker 4: And guys like that?
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  Speaker 5: Because I listen, I've been on teams where guys we
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  Speaker 5: won and you didn't always get along. There was there
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  Speaker 5: was arguments or discussions or whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 5: But does that think it's a day or is that
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  Speaker 5: just think you guys are all really good and you're like,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, we can have mature argument.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a it's an all the above thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Doc has always had his finger on the
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  Speaker 2: pulse of the clubhouse. He knows exactly what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with people. He knows, you know, who he can talk
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  Speaker 2: to certain ways. Uh, you know, because everyone's different there's
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  Speaker 2: some guys that need to have you know, they need
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  Speaker 2: to get chewed out a little bit, and there's other
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  Speaker 2: guys you need to coddle them a little bit, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you have to go outside the norm.
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  Speaker 2: But but Doc always knows who he can talk to
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  Speaker 2: and how he can approach certain ways and what he
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  Speaker 2: needs to do to get the most out of players.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other part of it is it's just
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  Speaker 2: everyone in the clubhouse knowing. You know, if if if
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  Speaker 2: Freddy is coming up to you and saying something, you're
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  Speaker 2: not just going to immediately jump back at Freddie and
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  Speaker 2: you know, start getting mad at him because it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's been around a long time, he knows what
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  Speaker 2: he's doing. If Mookie's saying that, you know, I remember
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  Speaker 2: very clearly, you know, within the first month of us
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  Speaker 2: having show, Hey, there was a a play where he
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  Speaker 2: was running the bases and he didn't get necessarily get
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  Speaker 2: as good as secondary le. He wasn't able to score
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  Speaker 2: on a certain play. And after the game it was
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  Speaker 2: like Freddie Mookie Clayton, our first base coach, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: several of us grabbed him and we just said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we just want to show you something. You know, this
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  Speaker 2: is this is what you did on your secondary that
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  Speaker 2: you need to be a little bit better at this
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  Speaker 2: and that would allow you to score. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was just like, oh, this is great. People were
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  Speaker 2: approaching me and wanting to talk to me about that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And that's just that's how we've always done
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  Speaker 2: things here and it's just, uh, you know, that's part
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  Speaker 2: of the culture that we've created.
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  Speaker 5: But by the way, your answer to the question is
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  Speaker 5: you see over your one, I think it's this shoulder,
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  Speaker 5: see the trophy, and then you're gonna have one over
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  Speaker 5: this shoulder.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one, that's Oh, you're bad. Oh, and then
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna have a third one.
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  Speaker 5: What are you gonna do with it? You're gonna stack
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  Speaker 5: on like a pyramid. You're gonna take the two, want
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  Speaker 5: the third one on top? I mean, you're bad.
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  Speaker 2: We're still we're still figuring that one out. You know
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  Speaker 2: that that one's on the way. I don't know when
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  Speaker 2: to get here, but yeah, well we'll figure out what
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  Speaker 2: to do with it. I love that, I love I
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  Speaker 2: love that.
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  Speaker 3: Is there anybody is there anybody on the team that like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they don't respond to like the oh great job, Max. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's like the example I give is d D. Gregorious
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  Speaker 3: was always he like he would yell at somebody if
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  Speaker 3: they if they said, oh, good swing, d D. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: good swing.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I got out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care if I hit every ball hard and
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  Speaker 3: I get out, I'm pissed. Who's that guy on the
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers that just is like, no, it's all about like it.
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  Speaker 3: Do not coddle me at all.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Freddy's that way a little bit. Freddie always
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  Speaker 2: thinks his swing sucks, and then he's hitting three thirty
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the year and it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's just that that but that that's how
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  Speaker 2: Freddie operates. That's what makes him, you know, one of
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  Speaker 2: the best for his basement. Ever, that's just how he
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  Speaker 2: that's how his mind operates. He he always thinks he
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  Speaker 2: needs to fix something in his swing. And even though
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  Speaker 2: his swing is super simple, it's it's you know, that's
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  Speaker 2: just how he's always thinking. He's, oh, my swing's cutty.
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  Speaker 2: You today, it's not going to work. And then he
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  Speaker 2: has three doubles later in the game and he's still
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  Speaker 2: sitting on the bench saying my swing's just not right,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, man, I wish my swing wasn't right.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love three doubles today.
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  Speaker 5: But by the way, and then the best part about
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  Speaker 5: Freddy is he'd be like, oh, I can't wait to
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  Speaker 5: go home and see fred his dad and he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: get me right, And you're like, Freddy, you're hitting three
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  Speaker 5: thirty with thirty and one hundred and it's June. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what happens when your dad
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  Speaker 5: sees you, because then you're what else can you do?
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  Speaker 5: I used to love that because I played with Freddy,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a long time ago, and he'd get three hits.
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  Speaker 4: He'd be like, gosh, I had a bad night.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, Freddy, you had three hits, dude, Like, what
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  Speaker 5: can you possibly complain about?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly? But you know that that's just how he operates
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  Speaker 2: and that's what makes him so good. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: Mooki's a little bit of the same way, where you know,
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  Speaker 2: the whole Mookie's whole work day. He'll sit there and
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  Speaker 2: say that something's not working in a swing, and then
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  Speaker 2: he goes out there and you know, he's hitting rockets
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  Speaker 2: all over the field. And you know there's certain guys
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  Speaker 2: that that's just how they operate. And then I've seen
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  Speaker 2: the complete opposite side of that, where you know a
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  Speaker 2: guy will take five swings and go, yep, I'm good,
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  Speaker 2: and then he goes out there and he has three
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  Speaker 2: hits and it's you know, everyone's different in how they work.
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  Speaker 4: Maax, hold on, I got someone that wants to talk
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  Speaker 4: to you. Hold on, Sit down, sit down. Do you
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  Speaker 4: know do you remember guy any brad Hand. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 4: he said that he owned you.
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  Speaker 5: So I just just tell him, tell him whatever you
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  Speaker 5: want to tell him.
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  Speaker 2: And so that I mean, I'm sure he did. But
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  Speaker 2: I know for a fact there was a maybe a
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  Speaker 2: two run double in Washington off him, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: he there might be like ten other strikeouts in there,
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  Speaker 2: but there was a two run double off them.
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  Speaker 4: You got to sit on the slider.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is I was waiting for the heater to come. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: I never I didn't wait for the heater off you.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to get that slider that started at
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  Speaker 2: my face and try to find a way to stay
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  Speaker 2: in there on it. No doubt, smart man, he.
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  Speaker 5: Said, he said, you weren't easier out than who is
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  Speaker 5: anybody you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, comparing us is like not even fair.
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  Speaker 2: But he told me.
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  Speaker 5: We were playing golf today and he goes, Max Muncey
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  Speaker 5: was a tough route than Corey Seeger.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, which, I think that's a pretty good compliment that man.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take it. You know. My My whole goal off
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  Speaker 2: guys like him is hopefully he's gonna throw enough pitches
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  Speaker 2: that I don't swing at that I'm gonna walk and
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  Speaker 2: then the guy behind me can do the damage. Or
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  Speaker 2: I might just get that one slider like I said,
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  Speaker 2: that just starts in the right spot and I can
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  Speaker 2: do some damage on it. Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta you gotta pick your spots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, when you get the tough
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  Speaker 2: lefties in the pen, you hope you get him to
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  Speaker 2: throw enough pitches that they can't throw it again the
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  Speaker 2: next day. Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I thought I faced you a lot more
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  Speaker 6: times than three times being in That was three times,
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  Speaker 6: one for.
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  Speaker 4: Three, two punch he's a double a walk in RBI.
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  Speaker 4: So who wins that night?
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  Speaker 5: If you're one for three of the double and two
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  Speaker 5: punches in a walk, who wins?
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  Speaker 2: Look, you're you're supposed to strake me out, So when
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  Speaker 2: I get that hit, I win.
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  Speaker 6: I would say you win that. That's a win for you.
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  Speaker 2: That's one for three, that's over three hundred. I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Well thanks, thanks for the stop by Brad.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you. Thanks. He just pulled me in there. Sorry. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: that is what he does. That is what he does.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly love it while AJ gets his ears back.
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  Speaker 2: Max. Question for you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the off season is young, but we've seen
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  Speaker 1: some pitchers sign some big money deals and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Sorrus Online was talking about how it's funny that so
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  Speaker 1: many four plus e r RA guys from this past
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  Speaker 1: season are getting big money. He's saying it sarcastically because
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  Speaker 1: he's like, teams don't look at ERA the way that
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  Speaker 1: most people do. And there are other stats like that,
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  Speaker 1: of course that are easy to use for the casual
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  Speaker 1: fan or just for our game in general. But what
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  Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what you observe that's most important
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  Speaker 1: not just to you, but to teams when they're evaluating
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  Speaker 1: hitters and pitchers these days.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Uh, ERA is such a tough stat for me. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you want that guy that's got the super lower RA,
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  Speaker 2: especially as like as a starting pitcher. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: you could look at ERA a little bit, maybe not
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  Speaker 2: so much as a reliever, because you know, as a
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  Speaker 2: reliever you just don't get enough innings throughout the course
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  Speaker 2: of a year. If you have one really bad outing,
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  Speaker 2: that just sets your RA back for you know, the
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  Speaker 2: whole season pretty much. You know, I've seen guys who
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  Speaker 2: have a four r A and then you look at
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  Speaker 2: their numbers and it's like they haven't given up a
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  Speaker 2: run in the last thirty games. They just had one
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  Speaker 2: game where they gave up six runs and it just
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  Speaker 2: ruined their RA. And it's so for me, the relievers,
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  Speaker 2: you don't you can't necessarily take into account the RA.
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  Speaker 2: There's just not enough like bulk innings to where if
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  Speaker 2: they have one, you know, bad outing, it kind of
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  Speaker 2: ruins it. But as a starter, you know, you'd obviously
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  Speaker 2: want a guy with a lower RA and then that
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  Speaker 2: that's also where it's because you have to look at
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  Speaker 2: the when is that era coming into you know, coming
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  Speaker 2: into account. Is it is it the fifth inning? On
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  Speaker 2: is it the first inning? You know, if you if
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  Speaker 2: you can give me five good innings as a starter,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's that's really good. Obviously you'd love to have
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  Speaker 2: six or seven. Makes it easier on your bullpen. But
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  Speaker 2: if you have a guy that can give you five
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  Speaker 2: clean innings every single time out and then the sixth
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  Speaker 2: and seven starts getting a little squarely, it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a little different to me.
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  Speaker 4: All right, your option? Your option?
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  Speaker 2: Good? What do you mean?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, Scott sat we got picked up?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that was like that was like a
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  Speaker 2: month ago.
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  Speaker 4: Well we haven't spoken since, so I spoke.
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  Speaker 1: Right after the World Series, so we just got to
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  Speaker 1: officially congratulate and also, yeah, give us the juicy details.
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  Speaker 1: Is it like a five second phone caller.
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  Speaker 4: Brandon go agent call you?
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  Speaker 2: You want to know what it actually was? It was
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  Speaker 2: an email?
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, boy, they emailed you and say congratulations back
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  Speaker 5: you're a Dodger again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: like we all knew it was getting picked up, and
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  Speaker 2: so my agent calls me and he's like, hey, they
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  Speaker 2: picked up the option. Here's the email they sent and
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  Speaker 2: he just forwarded it over and it was you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, sweet, I'm back again. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: what I wanted, you know, and we'll go from there.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's it. Wasn't one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: it was like a coming down to the wire situation.
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  Speaker 2: I think they had to make a couple moves, just
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  Speaker 2: you know, with at the end of the season, everyone
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  Speaker 2: has to come off the sixty day, and so they
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  Speaker 2: had to figure out, you know, what moves they were
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  Speaker 2: doing there. I think that was the only reason it
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  Speaker 2: took to the last day. But yeah, we had felt
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  Speaker 2: pretty good it was gonna get picked up.
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  Speaker 5: Were you like, there were sixty and forty when I
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  Speaker 5: was in the lineup and without me we were barely
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  Speaker 5: over five hundred? So can I get an extension? Did
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: you email that back to like was there like? Do
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: not reply? Because I'd have been like, I'm there were
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: sixteen forty when I was in the lineup, so let's
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: get another year.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Put on that option.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, they they got they got some other
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: things that they're working on right now.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Do tail?
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: No, No, do tail? What do you mean what are
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: they working on?
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I have no idea what they're working on. I'm just
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: saying they already got me, you know, for next year,
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm not if we wanted to discuss something like that,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: that's that's not at the top of the page at
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: the moment.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, you're but you're the two year man.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: You're you're always getting that two year extension extension. Doesn't
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: that normally happen? Like for somebody who never got any extensions?
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Doesn't that normally happen when hey, you know what, we're
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: going to pick your option up, we'd love to actually
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: make it two years kind of like extend it back
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: out again or does that? Is that not when that
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: happens for you?
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I think that I think we've created such
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: a good relationship with with you know, Andrew and Brandon
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: and and Alex and all those guys over there, that
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: you know, there's just not really any rush to get
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: to that point, you know. And that's that's really how
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: it's always been with with me. Is you know, we'll
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: well we'll talk to them and say, hey, we'd love
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: to discuss something like this, and they'll they'll respond back
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and say, yeah, let's discuss it later on in the year.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's really how it's how it's always gone.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: And so it's just, uh, you know, I don't know
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: what they have in the works with with who they're
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: looking at, you know, obviously I don't get I don't
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: get up. They don't send out like organizational updates on
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: what they're doing, you know. So I'm sure they're they're
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: looking at pieces that are out there and you know
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: who they might try to go after and all that stuff.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: And then you know, once that's done, maybe we'll have discussion.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe we won't, you know, I I honestly don't know.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I would love to clearly, but uh yeah, you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: we just have to see see how things unfold.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, So just to clarify for all the fans who
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: keep saying this is what, No, the Dodgers do not
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: call Max Munsey to see if he'll change positions for
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Alex Bregman or a Kamoto or all that stuff. Max
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Mounsey is just ready to start playing as a Dodger.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: But you do want another starting pitcher, and Tatsuya Mai
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: has come out and said he would love to take
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers down. When you hear that from somebody who
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: is probably one of the best starting pitchers available, does
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: that mean does that give you like a little bit
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: of like a like a peacock strut where you're like, yeah,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I hope, I hope he wants to, but then you
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: also hope he signs with the Giants, right.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, it's no different than any
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: other starting pitcher out there where they all want to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: take us down. So it's you know, I haven't looked
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: into this guy at all. I don't know what his
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: stuff is, and I'm sure he's amazing, as we've seen
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of the Japanese pictures that have come over
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: have been extremely good. You know, you look at the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: guys on our staff, so I'm sure he's very, very
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: talented and very good. I haven't looked into him. But again,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, every picture that's not on our team is
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: saying the same thing. They want to take us down.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: They want to be the one to beat us, and
• 17:55
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• 17:57
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• 17:59
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so then I'll finish the headline Max months.
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  Speaker 5: He said, when Am signs with the Giants and he
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: hits one in the cove, He's gonna tell him to
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: go get the ball out of the water.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: True or false?
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: False?
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  Speaker 4: Because I mean you got a little trash talking.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, come on, you guys are the two time
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  Speaker 5: defending champs, like take you down?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if I was gonna tell him that,
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  Speaker 2: I probably have to learn, you know, how to say
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: it in the language you have.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Show hey, you have Soazaki and you have Yamamoto. All
• 19:37
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• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's also going to depend on you know, if
• 19:41
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  Speaker 2: you know it's.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it's all gonna depend Okay, So then.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Let's go to one of your teammates, Show hey, announced
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: he's he's playing for Japan and the WBC. If you
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: are asked to play for USA and it comes down
• 20:00
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• 20:04
  Speaker 5: or Suzaki and you take them deep to win the game,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: are you talking trash as you run around the bases,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: or are you like, I am so sorry because we
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: need you for the one hundred and sixty two.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: In that moment, I'm celebrating with the team. And however
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that celebration comes out, it's gonna come out. I can't
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: tell you how that would happen. I will tell you
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that if that did happen throughout the course of the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: entire season, you know, I would just throw a little
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: jabs here and there, you know, just hey, good morning.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Remember when I took you deep to win? Yeah, I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: do too, and just walk away. You don't got to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: make it long. You just throw little jabs here and there.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You know, That's probably how I would do that one.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: All right. We have producer lady who checks you in
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: every time you come on the show. She has a
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: theory which I don't disagree with. Show Hey enjoys a
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: little bit of trolling, just a little bit. Like when
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: he won his MVP, he kissed his dog and not
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: his wife. And he when he said thank you to
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: the fans, he made his like thank you fans. Make
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: it look like show like. Some people on social media
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: were like, show Hey, retiring, what's going on? Does he like?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Does he like little jokes and barbs more than you
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: know the stoic exterior. Oh and also he did the uh.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: He did the Lord he's gouriel like. He kind of
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: trolled him after he hit the home run in UH
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: to put you guys ahead in Arizona the one time earlier.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: This year, too. Yeah, I will say Show is a
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: very funny guy, so there might be a little bit
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of that in there. I you know, I'm not entirely sure.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: He is a very funny guy, though, And uh that's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: something that that's something that you know a lot of
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: people don't know about him, is he's really funny. He's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he just loves having fun. He loves to show up
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: to the field and he's got a great personality. Uh,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he just he just likes to have fun. He loves
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to smile on the clubhofs And you know, I know
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't always see that out on
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the field, but that that's that's who he is. He's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: just a great person that loves having fun.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're seeing more and more of it, even
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: though we can't hear much when wait watch him in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean that's why for years, sorry, like
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it sucked to not have Show in the playoffs. Now
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the whole world gets to watch him and I don't know,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: just his mannerisms, they're good.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: What do you got aj But before we let him
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: go out, we got it? Have we asked him about
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Kirby itge tattoo? Were you there when he got it done.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Were you there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Because he did it? I mean he really went he
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: really went for it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was. We were all there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: You were like when the needle was in the rear
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: and he was getting it done, you were all sitting there.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was. Uh. Well, so MOOKI had
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the party at his house, and.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: MOOKI had tell me about tell me MOOKI had a
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: tattoo or to show up at his house and do
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: it in front of everybody, because I'll be I'll be
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: way better than Freddy trying to do the I don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: want to do the worm, but I'm gonna do the
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: worm again.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: There was a tattoo artist at Mookie's party.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, I.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Don't I don't know why he. I don't know. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: don't know if MOOKI made sure there was a guy there,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: because these guys were talking about it when they were
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: saying when we won the World Series, we're gonna get
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: these tattoos and uh you know, so I don't know
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: if MOOKI was making sure that they were there to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: be like, hey, you guys got to hold shoe on
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: your promise. But uh yeah, they got it done and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: we were all there to see it epic. Did anyone
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: else get tattoos?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Or they just had a guy there for Kirby?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: There was there was more tattoos.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, do you have any tattoos?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Do you have any No? I don't have any tattoos.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I can't do needles, so I can't do that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, did you see where was Freddy? Where did Freddy
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: do his second worm? He did it at the part.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: That was like Gavin looks his wedding.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Were you at the wedding?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: No? I was not at the wedding. My uh my wife,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: one of her best friends was getting married at the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: same time, and so we we were always going to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that one. First, you know, we told LuxI, Hey, sorry, Bud,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: but uh uh, this is one of my wife's time friends.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So we were we were going to be at that one.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Okay, because I just wanted to know, like, were you
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: pushing Freddy to do the worm? Because remember the first
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: time he did it and the second time he's like, oh, no,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I don't really know if you guys must make me.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I think I think with that it
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: depends on how much fun Freddy's been having at the party.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: True Okay, it was It was a wedding, so it
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: was a wedding, so I'm sure he was having a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: great time.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Are you a good gift giver? Like, do you have
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: a certain gift that you give at a wedding? Because
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like if you get, if you
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: know you have this like aura about you as a
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: big leaguer World Series champion, you got to be a
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: good gift giver.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: You know what's great about weddings is they have this
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: thing called the wedding registry and you can just find
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: out what they really want.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Unless you go on Scott's.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Unless you go on Scott's and then it's like super
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: awkward because his isn't his doesn't make any sense. It's
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: like cash for a rave, cash for other things at
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: a rave that's purple sunglasses. Like, that's not a normal
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: wedding registry.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: That's that's what he wanted. That's probably what he would get.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Then exactly what because because you don't like collecting random
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: dishes that nobody uses in a living room or something
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: like that, Sorry about it doesn't make any sense.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what those random business come in handy
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: for the holidays.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or if you want to put your world series
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: title over him. But also, I mean last thing. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: always get yelled at for having too much stuff in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the studio with AJ, and then he wants me to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: put things on a registry. It's like, uh, what do
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you want? You want me to collect stuff or get
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: ridden of stuff? I can't do both.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: You Yeah, yeah, you can't collect see in your in
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: your situation, what you do is collect collect the most
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: stuff that would annoy AJ, and then that's what that's
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: what you go with.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, that is my new idea and ft registries.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: I have a room full of ship from Scott that
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I he will not get rid of. Like he has
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: like he has like a like a r the most
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: random two thousands Mets player bibblehead, like name the most
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: random Mets two thousands.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: He's got six.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got six of them sitting in my room.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, Scott, sounds that.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Sounds like you're just mad that none of them are yours.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Then I got plenty of my own.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I got plenty of Max. You'll see one day, one day.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Long from now, you'll be in like the digital space
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: podcast world doing a show and they send you all
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, and AJ doesn't want to keep half
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: of it, so you'll be able to give it out
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to your friends.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: But it's it's not perfect. I'm I'm put a block
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: on AJ's name to not have gifts show up to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: my house. Seriously, that's the act. I don't know what
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: he's going to be sending me.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Trust me, I get random. But okay, I know we
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: got to go. But have you ever gotten random stuff
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: sent you in the mail?
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: Because I get like once a year I'll get something
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: random and I don't know who it's from. So it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: happened to me the last four years where like somebody
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: will just send me something and they don't sign it,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: and they're not like things you want to display. They're
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: like the things you would get at Spencer Gifts for
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: people that remember Spencer Gifts, Like I mean, I remember
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: the ball the ball thing Scott I had, like someone
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: sent it to me I didn't know who was from.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: One year, I got a chocolate chocolate a chocolate giant
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: male organ.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Right when he says ultimately too, he means like Justin Turner.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Yes, the Justin Turner thing that he has that's just
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: a randomly in the mail, like, yes.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: And I don't know who sent it to me. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: then a couple of years ago, I got like a.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Chocolate one of those things I don't know and they
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: don't sign it, and then I have to play the
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: guessing game.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Oh who sent this to me? Said, I'm texting people
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: like did you do this?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And then when you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Finally figured it out years later, like you finally figured
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: it out?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a joke. That's the whole point of it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: You don't need to know who it's from.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly you're getting. You're getting random magic gifts, all right, Max.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: On that note, Good to see you enjoy wedding season,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the holidays, the whole thing. Congrats on the option being
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: picked back up. Great to see you man appreciate it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Guys.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: As always, Hey, we can get into this a little bit.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: We're supposed to talk to f P Santangele. If we
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: don't today, we'll get them on a different day. But
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the giants for the NL pennant right now are plus
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty to one. It's still crazy when
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: you see this, because I'm pretty sure that heading into
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: this season or this past season, that Blue Jays were
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I think plus six thousand. Does that sound right, Kratz.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know how. I didn't remember seeing it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: They were sixty to one. But anyway, for the Giants,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: they're twenty to one odds right now to win the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: National League. And yet we're gonna get FP on a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: different day this week. We're going to reschedule with him.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: He's overseas. Yeah, I know you don't like it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: AJ.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about this report with FP when we get
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: him on at some point this week. But I'm still
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: shocked at the story here about the Giants not really
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: interested in playing in the big kids pool that much
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: this season because they feel like they already did that
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: with Adamis and with Devers. I mean, they are not
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a help signing or two away. Don't they need more.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Help than that?
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Yes, they needmore. Okay, Bailey had a down year. Some
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: of the other guys that were counting on a down
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: yere they're going to need somebody to step up. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: mean Chapman wasn't great for him, A Damas ended up
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: where he was where he's been about his whole career.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, Logan Webb has been really good for him,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Robbie Rady. They have pitching, they can figure out their bullpen,
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: but they need people to take the next step. Is
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Eldridge the guy? Do they think Bryce Eldridge is the guy?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they hope so, But I mean, I think it's
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a pretty big problem for the Giants that, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: they're not necessarily going to do much in terms of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: spending this offseason. So the article in the Athletics says
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that they could lavish sixty million on the twenty twenty
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: six roster and still reside comfortably beneath the initial that
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: first tax threshold, that firstle light salary cap marker of
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: two hundred and forty four million bucks. But their cash
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: payroll cash basis payroll commitments include seventeen million in deferred
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: signing bonus money owed to Blake Snell in January. I'm like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: whatever that that to me? I get it, it's on
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: your books right now, but like, that's what we're blaming
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: for this shit. And then they also said that they're
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: spending ten and a half million dollars on the manager
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: position next season because you have the Bob Melvin four
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: million dollar I guess essentially buy out plus the three
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: million buyout they paid for Tony Battello. Crime me a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: fucking river, Like, that's what we're worried about here?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Wait, what did I Tello get? How much did I
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Tello get?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Like three and a half ish? But they had to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: do the buyout for him to get out of Tennessee
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: for three I guess Come on, bro, that's what you're
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: worried about here.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: You're the Giants.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: If you ever been to a Giants king, they sell
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: out every game crowds. Did you play? I played for
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: the Giants? You played for the Giants?
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Like when they're good, they're the greatest, And they have
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: uh Kype and Kruko as their freaking announcers and everyone
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: tunes into their games and.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Like don't what, don't tell me? Because the manager got fired,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: they can't afford players, like.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Stop, attendance is up. Posey's done a good job. The
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: whole problem with them with the last regime was that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like nobody even knew who the guys were. Everything was
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: so vanilla. There wasn't star power. Posey, what makes two
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: moves and attendance skyrockets for them? Now you didn't see
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: great results on the field, You see okay results on
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the field. But that's why, to me, the story was
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so shocking, because you had little rumblings that the Giants
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: might be interested in a guy like Amai, and then
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: this story just absolutely shot it dead, like they are
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: not playing in those waters at all. And it also
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: went into how the Giants have made attempts to get
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: some recent Japanese stars and they've come up empty.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Right, they had Arson Judge. Though they had Arson Judge.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: They did almost have that's true, almost have Arson Judge.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: But they've gone over. These are some of the guys
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that they've gone after in recent years. Not how hard
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and how deep into the process, I don't know. But
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Otani Yamamoto, could I sanga say Suzuki Roki Suzaki. Here's
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the real stinger in the article, it's been over a
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: decade since the last born and raised Japanese player they employed,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: left fielder Noriaoki in twenty fifteen, was on the team,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: And embarrassingly, it's been much longer since a Japanese player
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: spent multiple seasons in a Giant's uniform. It was left
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: hander Montassori Murakami. And you're like, wait, why don't I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: know that name? Because he was the pioneering reliever who
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: became the first Japanese Major leaguer when he pitched for
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the team in nineteen sixty four.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Sixty four, Shinjo didn't have Shinjo.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: For one season. Probably they said multiple years, multiple years.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: They haven't had someone since the sixties. It's it's kind
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: of surprising, right, Like you talk about how the Japanese
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: players want to be on the West coast, low coast,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: or to home whatever. Seattle at one point was a hotbed.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Now the Dodgers are a hotbed. The fact that the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Giants haven't been able to create that and this, in
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: my mind, AJ is the off season to strike. This
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: is the off season to do this.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: You've got the Dodgers, go sign him. He just said
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: he wants to kill the Dodgers.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: That should be your dream player, like they must they
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: must be. I mean there's two things scrats. Either they're
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: internal metrics don't like him, which I find hard to believe,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: or they're getting orders that they've already done their heavy
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: damage and they can't dip in those waters, am I.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: It's gonna cost a lot of money, There's no doubt
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: about that. He's probably gonna be two to two fifty
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Just don't just don't come out and say this if
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: you're because the fact that the fans are starting to
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: come out like that's a it's kind of a slap
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: in the face. So to me, if you're not going
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: to dip into those waters, you're not gonna go and
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: get that guy. It's tough to get that guy on
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the offense in San Francisco that's going to push you
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: over the line. So you might as well get that
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: guy on the mound that's gonna push you over the line.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Get you to where your fans are coming out because
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: they know they're not watching Buster posey on the field.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: They're out there. They're out there supporting their team like
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: they want to be out supporting a team. They don't
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: want to come out to a five hundred team. Because essentially,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: right now, without any upgrades, you're telling your fan base,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: we're fine, we just need to see the players that
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: we have, like, just do better and then we'll make
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. No, you push it over the line with
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: another signing like look like you saved money. You saved money.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: The last regime did a good job of just doing
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: one year deals and trying to piecemeal your platoon group
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: together like it was boring baseball. So they were saved
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: money there, don't give me the like like that's not
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: even part of your that's not even on your payroll.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I get it. You have to pay that money to
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Blake Snell, to Bob Melvin, like, but this fans are
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: coming out because they want to see a winner. You
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: made the moves last year, you hoped what would happen
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: this year or this past year didn't now push it
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: over the line. And I think a signing like am
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I would do that based on what I've seen of him.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And you know can alluded to this too. It's been
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: kind of a weird offseason and this story makes a
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: lot weirder for the Giants. The one other factor in
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: play here there's some speculation that Buster Posey doesn't necessarily
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: want to sign Scott Boris' clients. Buster, you're going to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: have to engage with every agent. Now, wait, there's more
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to this. Okay, there's two things in here. One is,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you know this story talks about how like Buster is
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: like pretty adamant that he doesn't like opt outs and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of Boris clients have opt outs. I mean,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: plenty of other players have opt outs too, But okay,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: and then the other part, here is someone who's been
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: on our show before and he won't come on anymore
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: because now he works for the team again and calling
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: him out. But it's true Jeff Barry who used to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: be an agent, and that was whatever a guy who
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: was a rival of him. So I'm like, you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the Giants have signed two players that were with Jeff
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Barry's old agency. There's always those kind of games going on,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: you know about that stuff, Kratz. Some people love this guy,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: they don't love this guy, and they try and make
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: deals to make that happen. Like, you can't just sidestep
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the agent that reps a ton of the big stars
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in the sport. So I'm not necessarily buying that. But
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the story did speculate there and say that Jeff is
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: an advisor in the team. So is that holding the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Giants back from some of the biggest players on the market.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Let's let's speculation. I want I want to hear I
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: want to hear it out of their their mouth, because are.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Not going to say that.
• 36:47
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