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Failure · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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  band. That's right, we've done all the
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  work for you. All you have to do is press play
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  and listen and you could say that I'm banned curious.
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  I've been trotting that one out. I'm trying to get it back out
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  there. I'm banned curious.
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  I like to talk to my friends about bands that they like and I
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  do the deep dive with them and try to figure out a nice
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  playlist for you come the end of it.
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  Today, I'm not a failure. We're not a failure, but the
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  band indeed is Failure. My playlist for this was
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  something like Failure the Band, not me.
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  I think it's what I called it. Hello, Not my best work.
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  That's OK, Peter, you put failure on the board, and I
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  honestly can't recall when. I can't remember if this was
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  like something you kind of threw in the Discord or if you just
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  put them up on the on the board at some point.
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  But talk to me about failure. I think I just put them up on
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  the board at some point, but my story with this band is pretty
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  much the same story I tell for like 9 out of 10 episodes.
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  I do hear Failure is a band who had a single that was in the MTV
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  buzz bin and it did reasonably well.
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  So I I like the song. So I went and got the album and
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  I was like, something's fucking good.
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  Like this guy should be bigger. And then they just kind of
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  vanished. I did go back and get their
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  first comfort and I like that a lot.
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  I couldn't find magnified at the time when I was getting into
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  them and then they broke up for a while and then they came back.
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  But they didn't make it easy for you to get their music.
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  Like it was all on like band camp and stuff wasn't streaming.
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  But there's one of those bands where, like, I don't know, I, I
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  just feel like they've, they're overlooked and they deserve
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  reappraisal. Yeah, we've been you and I have
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  been doing a lot of those I feel like over the last year and some
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  change, some reappraisals, even though this band didn't enter
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  the ether like like some of the other bands that we've done.
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  Andrew, I don't recall when you jumped on, but I remember that
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  you did obviously because you're here.
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  So talk to me about failure. Yeah.
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  So I my introduction to failure was kind of like indirect.
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  I was in like the early 2000s. I was like a big, you know, I
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  don't want to say new metal, but I will say new metal.
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  I guess like kind of new metal adjacent stuff is kind of where
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  I was in the early 2000s, you know, like Deftones pool, stuff
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  like that. And A perfect circle.
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  I was in love with A perfect circle.
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  And me and all my friends, like we loved Mayor de Nom and then
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  13th Step came out. None of my friends liked it.
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  They were like, Oh yeah, like they've they're going soft or
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  whatever, like this ain't the same.
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  It ain't as good. Whatever bullshit.
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  And I loved 13th Step and one of my favorite songs on it was the
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  nurse who loved me. And I was like it, it.
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  It just seemed like such a departure for not a complete
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  departure for, for what A perfect Circle was doing at the
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  time. But anyway, just the song.
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  It really stood out to me. And obviously I looked in the
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  liner notes and I find it, Oh, it's this band failure.
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  It's a cover of this, a song by this band failure.
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  So I kind of, I checked them out as as much as I could because
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  back then, you know, I lived in the country, I didn't really
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  have access to music, which, which is a huge, a huge part of
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  the way that I discover bands in the past because like I didn't
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  have access to anything in living in like rural Nova
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  Scotia. Like we didn't get Internet, we
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  didn't get cable. Like I kind of had to like
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  really dig to find things. So I did download a couple songs
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  off Limewire by them, obviously The nurse who loved me and I
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  believe I've been stuck on you. And you know, I thought they
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  were fine back then. I was young, I didn't have great
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  taste. But then I, I rediscovered them
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  around, oh, I'd say 20/12/13 somewhere around there.
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  And yeah, I was just immediately hooked.
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  I got Fantastic Planet and yeah, just right from the moment I let
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  start listening to it, I was like, this is it.
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  And like this is the exact like this right in my Q zone.
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  Like, this is the exact band that I need right now.
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  Yeah. And it just kind of went from
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  there. I I went backwards through the
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  discography and checked out Magnified and Comfort.
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  Love those as well. And then luckily that was around
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  the time when they started, when they got off hiatus or breakup.
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  They called it breakup, but I mean, you know, they got back
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  together so we could probably call it a hiatus now.
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  And yeah, they got back together in 2014 and put out My heart as
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  a monster. Even that album is really great.
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  A little different than the old stuff, but yeah, then they they
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  didn't really miss a beat when they came back.
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  And yeah, they're just I, I love this band.
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  They're so good. And they just, they don't miss
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  like every everything they do is is really good.
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  But those that first era of their career is definitely like
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  the truest version of of failure and what kind of what they're
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  about it. So I think immediately when I
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  started listening to Comfort, I might have jumped in immediately
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  to the to the chat and went, where's this band been my whole
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  life? So this is this is another one
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  of these bands that is like it screams Justin like this should
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  have been, you know, this should have been something I've been
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  listening to all along. And you know, it's it's funny.
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  You bring up a perfect circle. Like I didn't clock going
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  through this playlist. You know, I've heard that cover
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  when we just did that episode last year.
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  I I did I just didn't clock that.
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  But this we were talking just before I went on and while I
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  didn't get the notes of like direct sound of Smashing
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  Pumpkins, what you were saying, Andrew, about the way they fill
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  out sound like it's big. This is this band is big.
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  Like you listen to it and it's it's everywhere.
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  And you know, I love how much space they take up with the
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  sound. It's so great.
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  And you know, I think sound wise, like the the band I kept
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  coming back to is like Silverchair.
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  They definitely remind me of a little bit of Silverchair local
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  H at times. Like really early stuff gave me
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  filter vibes. So like it's it's all these like
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  it's close enough to all these bands that I love.
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  And then you you put in like what?
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  Like what you said about the way they fill in space.
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  Hum also would be another band kind of close to to here.
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  Yeah, that that's kind of where I where I would put them with
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  like that kind of like hum and far those kind of predecessors
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  to what Deftones would kind of go on to do.
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  Just with the way, you know, like we were saying, like they
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  just kind of there's no, there's no air to the music.
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  There's there's so many layers and it's all like building and
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  building and building. Like like layered but not quite
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  shoegaze. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.
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  I just. I've fallen in love with this
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  band and I again, I, you know, I hate to keep rehashing things
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  that I said just before we hit record, but like I, I honestly
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  wish I wasn't working on so many episodes like right now,
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  currently. And as we brought this up, this
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  I need to find space to put this band.
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  Like this band belongs in, it's already in my wheelhouse.
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  It belongs in my, my repertoire. It it belongs in, in my
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  rotation. And I'll figure that out.
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  And one last thing I wanted to note is like, I feel like this
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  was a band that has always kind of just been way just under,
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  under me. Like, you know, I'm not, I'm not
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  necessarily ignored it. I I feel like Spotify is trying
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  to tell me, hey, dude, listen to Fantastic Planet like God knows
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  how many times because I remember seeing that album cover
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  and, you know, I was, you know, listening to God knows what that
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  week and just couldn't get to it.
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  But yeah, man, Spotify number one, you was right.
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  I should have listened to that and #2 kind of to echo what
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  Peter said, this band deserves more like more people should
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  know this band. This is this is just a great, a
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  great band with great songs. We, you know, you pointed out,
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  you both have pointed out, you know, that that they they got
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  back together and made more music.
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  Unfortunately, we're kind of a Spotify.
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  We're kind of held to what's on Spotify just because it's easier
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  that way. Is is the best way to put it.
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  I know, not great, but that's just the way it is.
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  So we were only able to do the first, the front half of their
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  catalog, Peter, which brought us to like 48 songs.
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  Theoretically that makes it easier.
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  Yeah, but but was it? Yeah, it kind of was.
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  I'm showing my hand here a little bit, but like I'm a
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  little fantastic planet heavy on my list just because that's the
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  album that's sat with me the most over the years, right.
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  But yeah, like going back and revisiting the first album and
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  then kind of checking out the second album for the first time,
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  there were some tough cut, tough cuts to make there because like,
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  those are also both really good albums.
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  Like these guys knew what they're doing, like right out of
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  the gate. Yeah, yeah, they, they knew,
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  they knew the sound immediately and they just refined it with
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  with each record. And I, I feel like you were, you
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  were pretty quick on it, Andrew. Like how how was it putting 20
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  together for this one? Again, you you get almost half
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  of the discography, but is it? Does that make it easier?
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  It was, yeah. I would say it was definitely
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  easier. Wouldn't say it was easy.
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  I I'm really familiar with these four albums anyway, So kind of
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  like going into it, I kind of knew already knew what was
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  definitely going on the list. And I mean, maybe a couple songs
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  that definitely weren't. There really aren't any bad
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  songs is, is the thing. It's just there's either good
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  songs or great songs. But there was, you know, there
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  was probably a dozen songs which were right off the bat for me,
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  like, OK, be there on. And I just got to fill up the
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  rest of it. And that was kind of the hard
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  part for me. I, you know, I got down to about
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  2425 and from there it was just like pulling teeth trying to,
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  because I would listen to the playlist every day in the car
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  because like I, I work on the road, so I'm always driving.
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  So I'm always listening to music.
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  Umm, and getting, getting from 25 to 20 was really, really
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  difficult. And even now I'm, I'm, I sat at
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  21 for like a week and I just couldn't make the decision.
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  And then I made the decision yesterday, getting it down to
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  20. And then even today I'm like
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  questioning the one that I took off.
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  So yeah, it, it was easier than it would have been with the, you
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  know, this this the second era of their career if that had been
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  included, because then I would have had to get rid of even more
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  of the songs that I have right now.
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  Yeah. I again, as somebody who kind of
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  fell in love with them almost immediately on on pushing play,
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  I found this rather difficult because as you're listening,
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  it's like, well, I can make a case for all of these songs.
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  Ultimately, like I, I pulled it back to something that's
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  relatively even considering, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't
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  bear out to five songs each, but I did.
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  I do give a slight nudge to fantastic planet because I, I
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  think that's their best work and I feel like that's where we want
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  to draw people to and then they, they can go backwards.
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  But you know, we'll discuss that as, as we get into like song
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  specific stuff. But even going back and
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  listening to the to my list just beforehand, like I was looking
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  at some of the answers that I got and I was like, I don't have
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  any of these. And then like one came up a
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  couple times specifically and I was like, wait, I don't have
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  that one. So I, I actually did make a last
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  minute cut just before we got on and re added a song that I
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  thought I had on anyway, So you know, you this, this feels like
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  with 48 songs, it should be easy.
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  It should be easy for us to like really hammer home a list like
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  easily, but it also feels like it has every possibility to to
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  just be a mess and be a low, low unanimous count and, you know,
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  really have to build the list from the ground up based on
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  that. Peter, again, 48 songs isn't
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  that much. So each of us gets half of that.
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  But we we could be we could all be in our own corners.
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  How many do you think we get through unanimously for the
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  final say? I'm going to go with six.
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  OK. I like that.
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  I like that six is off the board.
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  Andrew, what do you think? I'm going optimistic with this
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  one where you guys have both already mentioned that you're a
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  little heavy on Fantastic Planet.
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  I also have plenty of songs from Fantastic Planet, and I think
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  that we will probably line up on a couple songs outside of that
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  as well. I'm going to go 80.
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  I love it. I love that.
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  Dang, I was going to, I was going to do that like in order
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  to, you know, skate winning. I I I I'd almost consider going
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  and like the Boston episode, but I think that might might be a
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  little too optimistic. Maybe just because, you know,
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  kind of to your point out, outside of fantastic planet, we
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  might all be kind of, you know, in different places.
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  So the question is, do I, do I take you a step further or do I
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  split the difference? You know, I don't want to win
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  anyway, so I'll take the seven. And with that, we're going to
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  take a quick pause and when we come back, we want to play the
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  game. It's the programmed.
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  And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed and the
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  three of us have come through almost exactly half of Failures
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  discography and plucked out 20 songs that are now going to
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  match together in an attempt to create a top 10 starter kit for
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  you. In case you are like me and have
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  never given failure the time of day.
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  I got to do the thing with this band because I knew I you know,
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  it's OK if if this one misses, but I'd be lying if I didn't say
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  I I already told you guys I fell in love immediately.
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  I heard the first song and it did the thing.
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  I was like, Oh my God, where the fuck is this band been my whole
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  life? I'm going with submission.
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  Yeah, I've got it. Hell yeah, I've got it.
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  Yes, yes. I mean, you never know, you
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  know, but like it, it did the thing where it tells me exactly
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  what to expect from this band. And I love that it does that.
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  And then like, as you go on, like it actually gets even
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  better. Like when when I put that into
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  the chat, I said, man, I'm loving this, and I'm only on the
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  first record. And Andrew, you said something.
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  Oh, my God, if you love that first record so much, like wait
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  until wait until you get the fantastic Planet.
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  So yeah, I mean, what a great tone setter, what a great way to
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  tell me what this band is about. And yeah, Submission is in boom.
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  Love it, Peter. I think I'm just going to get
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  this right out of the way and go with the the hit, the one that
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  got me into them stuck on you. I got it.
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  Absolutely. Boom yeah, 2/3.
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  I just love that opening riff like the.
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  It's infectious. Yeah, what's funny is you had
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  said that I I'd probably heard, you know, some of these songs
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  and I really don't recall them. But like there is this feeling
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  of especially with Fantastic Planet, like they feel like they
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  they're especially even this song, like it feels like I've
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  known them forever. Like if I never, I don't think
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  I'd ever heard this song, but it feels like it feels like it's
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  been in my cranium forever. I I don't think I'm making sense
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  but. Now that that 100% makes sense
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  like that with that song too. That's how I felt when I when I
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  had heard Stuck On You. Not when I had originally heard
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  it, like when I was younger, but when I really got into the band
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  and I heard it, I was like, God damn, like this sounds like
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  something that would have been on the radio every single day in
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  the 90s. Like it.
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  It feels like it would have been right there with Chair Brock.
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  And my name is Jonah, you know. Yeah.
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  It it did, it did about the same as well as stars by Hum.
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  Like it was like just under the radar, but like, still widely
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  known if you watched Alternative Nation on MTV.
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  Well, you know. It might have been one or two
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  years late to be on Beavis and Butt Head.
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  You know, maybe, you know, maybe I did catch it there and that's
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  why it sits somewhere in in my brain.
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  But yeah, man, love that one. Boom.
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  No pressure, Andrew 2 for two. Let's go for the hat trick.
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  The nurse who loved me. Yes, I got it.
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  Of course, that was the song I added back on today 'cause.
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  Oh wow, you had it off. Yeah, well, that was my exact
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  reaction. I was like, what?
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  Yeah, I. Remember during the Perfect
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  Circle episode, you picked that and I was like, dude, that's a
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  cover. And you're like, what?
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  I was like, yeah, great song, but it's a cover.
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  Yeah, I went, I went back and listened to it today and I was
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  like, Oh yeah, this has got to go on my list.
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  So I had to make a hard choice and lose something else.
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  You know, we'll get get to that later and see if one of you guys
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  have it. But yeah, I I was like, this is
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  a grave mistake. This needs to be on here.
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  So All right, nurse who love me, we are three for three.
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  I'm not going to. I'm not going to put any
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  pressure on myself. Where do I want to go?
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  Do I keep? Yeah, let's keep it going.
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  Let's, let's stay on. Fantastic point.
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  And how about that? How about Sergeant Politeness?
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  No. No, I don't have it either.
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  Oh, no. OK.
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  All right. I went to Niche.
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  OK, into the bin it goes, Peter. I'm going to go out a fantastic
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  planet. Does anybody have a Princess
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  from comfort? Yes.
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  Absolutely. Oh hell yeah.
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  That was, that was the last one that made it like when I got
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  when I, like I mentioned before, when I had it down to 21 and I
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  kind of had it between a couple songs and one didn't make it and
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  one did. That is the one that did.
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  So by the skin of its teeth, it gets in.
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  There's a little bit of a punk influence.
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  Yeah, absolutely. That's that's why I kept it.
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  Yeah, I I hate to keep coming back to the sounds, but like,
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  God, the sounds like just how big and it's like like it's got
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  a heaviness to it. Like it's just there's a weight.
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  Well, that that that first album, Comfort was produced by
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  Eval Beanie and he's, you know, obviously notorious for bringing
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  like the best, like most raw sounds out of a band.
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  That makes a ton of sense because I was also gonna kind of
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  say like there, there were times where I got shellac vibes, so.
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  Yeah. That makes.
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  Like, yeah, like the cord voicings they use.
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  They they like to, they like to use some weird, weird cords that
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  kind of like bleed into like almost dissonant territory.
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  Yeah, all right, so Princess gets 3 boom boom boom, Andrew
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  all. Right.
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  I'm going to go for one off magnified.
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  Let's go undone. Yes.
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  Now all. Right, we'll take that too.
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  That was one that I actually got a couple times as an answer on
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  threads. It's a good song, but.
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  Yeah, we can't take that to go. Yeah, you can't take them all.
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  So, all right, back around to me.
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  All right, I want to. I'm trying to remember the Dang
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  words to this, the reason I didn't pick at last go because I
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  was just listening to it. Dang it.
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  Whatever. But it has something to do with
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  getting my head checked off magnified frogs.
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  Yeah. Oh yeah.
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  Yes. Oh man, that makes me so happy.
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  Yes. I was on rules.
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  God yes it does. This is interesting.
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  We're like nailing all the stuff outside of Fantastic Planet.
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  I should have gone 10. Oh. 12.
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  I know, right? Yeah, all.
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  Right, hold on. I got to play a little bit of
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  this, but you know, we were just talking about like that kind of
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  like shellac thing that, you know, the big, big sound, like
• 27:16
  it opens with that just really, you know, driving bass line.
• 27:22
  And then it just builds off that like from from RIP.
• 27:25
  It's just boom, like here, here I am.
• 27:29
  And then this is the first time, like I've really, this was the
• 27:31
  first time where like lyrics kind of came into the
• 27:34
  conversation. Hold on, I'm I'm actually
• 27:38
  looking at it right now because I caught it again.
• 27:43
  I've gone away to have my head checked, I guess to need it.
• 27:45
  I guess I need to have it looked at.
• 27:47
  That just really got my attention and like, it's at the
• 27:51
  end score. It's so catchy, like, oh, it's
• 27:54
  great. And the way they kind of key
• 27:57
  change it too, like the first time through, they keep it like
• 28:00
  in a in more of a like AI think you'd say it's like a kind of a
• 28:07
  downward direction is kind of where they're moving.
• 28:10
  But then the end of the song it it feels almost like it goes a
• 28:13
  little bit major and they go higher with it.
• 28:18
  Yeah, yeah, man, I love this band.
• 28:23
  All right, Frogs is me. Peter, let's.
• 28:31
  See if we can keep going outside of Fantastic Planet.
• 28:36
  How about let it drip? Yeah.
• 28:41
  Oh yeah, yes. Boom boom boom.
• 28:46
  Are we at my 6 already? Just like that?
• 28:48
  Yes Sir, Already at your 6. Oh shit.
• 28:52
  With only one in the bin. Like somebody over here got too
• 28:58
  big for his britches and all right, let me cue that up.
• 29:08
  But again, like, this is another track one.
• 29:11
  But like the song like that, the album starts off different.
• 29:17
  Like they've already added like something new.
• 29:19
  Like it's a bit noisier on top of just the heaviness.
• 29:25
  I like it. I like it.
• 29:27
  Walk it a lot. All right, let it drip.
• 29:31
  Brings us up to 6. Andrew All right, I'll go.
• 29:39
  I'll go off the beaten path here.
• 29:41
  And I got I got a couple off the B side album.
• 29:48
  This one actually ended up being on a later album when they
• 29:55
  reformed. I think the album was called In
• 29:59
  the Future. Your body will be the furthest
• 30:02
  thing from your mind Anyway. Yeah it's on, but the original
• 30:07
  version of it is an acoustic version and it was on the B
• 30:11
  sides album. Annies.
• 30:19
  No, wait, make sure. No wait.
• 30:23
  What was it? Annies.
• 30:28
  Pennies. Oh, there it is.
• 30:29
  No, no. All right, Peter.
• 30:38
  Oh, no, wait. We're back around to me.
• 30:40
  That is Andrew. Yeah, I'm smart.
• 30:44
  Sorry. There's things going on in my
• 30:46
  house and it's got me slightly distracted.
• 30:48
  It's OK. You know, I'll try one out from
• 30:57
  from that the besides the how about petting the carpet?
• 31:05
  No. That was #21 Oh, and also
• 31:11
  petting the carpet that ended up being on their return out.
• 31:17
  My heart is a monster. The one from when they when they
• 31:20
  reformed. Oh.
• 31:21
  All right. Yeah.
• 31:24
  All right, into the Bennett goes.
• 31:27
  That's all right. Plenty of space here, Peter.
• 31:34
  The Steve Albini thing makes sense for me for a lot of
• 31:38
  comfort, and I chose the song because the guitar solos sounds
• 31:43
  like something Kurt would have played and it's Swallow, no?
• 31:51
  I don't have it. Oh, I know.
• 31:56
  Are we entering that territory the All right, Andrew?
• 32:08
  All right, let's go back to Fantastic Planet.
• 32:14
  Go smoking umbrellas. Yep.
• 32:20
  Dammit, that was 21. We'll.
• 32:27
  Take that too, though, Fill out our, you know, our our extras.
• 32:34
  All right, back around to me, I guess Maybe I'll stay here on
• 32:42
  fantastic Planet. Oh, I just did the wrong one.
• 32:48
  I sure did. I did.
• 32:51
  Sergeant Playlist was incorrect. Supposed to be smoking
• 32:57
  umbrellas. All right, how about Saturday,
• 33:01
  Saviour? Oh yeah.
• 33:05
  Yes, Sir. Hey, OK, so we're at 7, which
• 33:10
  means you know what? I can, I can maybe consider
• 33:13
  figure out. I can take that pressure.
• 33:16
  I think with this band. I like, I like all these songs.
• 33:20
  So if we if we land on that seven, I think I can figure it
• 33:24
  out. All right, boom, boom, boom.
• 33:27
  Let me get that queued. Great track, 1 band.
• 33:34
  Really good job of of telling you.
• 33:36
  Hey, by the way, this is another record.
• 33:40
  We're going to do something else here while still very much
• 33:44
  sounding like themselves. I feel like they're one of those
• 33:47
  bands who just doesn't throw all the songs that they've recorded
• 33:51
  onto a album that and that they actually pay attention to track
• 33:54
  order. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:57
  All right. Let's see.
• 34:01
  Let me reshuffle this and then Peter.
• 34:10
  I'll stay, I'll stay on this album.
• 34:13
  Another Space song. Yeah, I got it.
• 34:17
  They also have it. Wow, smoked right past my 7
• 34:23
  right to Andrew's 8. All right, let me get that
• 34:30
  queued. I like how it comes out of the
• 34:38
  Segway into this one. Yeah, and this whole album just
• 34:46
  seems like a loose concept album about general sci-fi stuff.
• 34:52
  Yeah, makes sense to me. Fantastic planet.
• 34:58
  Fantastic. Yeah, well that have have you
• 35:01
  guys seen that movie Fantastic Planet?
• 35:03
  I have not. No.
• 35:06
  It's a it's a really weird animated film from the 70s where
• 35:13
  they're these there's these aliens that are like these
• 35:17
  highly intelligent beings and outside of their like civilized
• 35:25
  colonies, there lives these like humans that are basically like
• 35:34
  Neanderthals, like they're unintelligent.
• 35:36
  They can't speak. They just like are on a beneath
• 35:41
  these, you know, all knowing beings and they they'll go out
• 35:46
  and they'll catch them and use them as pets.
• 35:49
  And then eventually the humans like attempt to rise up and just
• 35:57
  revolt against these these big like alien creatures.
• 36:02
  It's it's really, really cool, really cool movie.
• 36:06
  I I feel like I need to watch this because now it makes me
• 36:10
  wonder if they wrote to that movie like I'd really have to
• 36:14
  pay attention to like what some of the lyrics are and stuff but.
• 36:18
  It's certainly possible. They seem again, what what
• 36:22
  little I know about them, they seem like, yeah, they'll be
• 36:25
  what? Absolutely.
• 36:25
  Right. Right on the album.
• 36:28
  Some weird movie. All right.
• 36:32
  Another space song was Andrew, so were background to me, right.
• 36:36
  I don't know what I got. Left.
• 36:39
  I don't think I picked that one, did I?
• 36:42
  No, I think or. Was that you, Peter?
• 36:47
  Peter back. OK.
• 36:49
  So Andrew, then you're up. Yeah, I'll OK, so I'll this one
• 36:59
  kind of connects to my first episode of the programmed I did
• 37:04
  was he got in The Cave in episode.
• 37:08
  Cave In was heavily, heavily influenced by Failure and they
• 37:15
  actually covered this song. The title track from the second
• 37:20
  album Magnified. No, I thought I had that.
• 37:23
  I don't. I did not have that one.
• 37:28
  Oh, unfortunately, into the bin. All right, so now we're back
• 37:34
  around to me, I think. Let me count 12123, 45678.
• 37:42
  OK, we got another couple rounds in US.
• 37:44
  I think I'll go back to the first record.
• 37:50
  How about Screen Man? I don't have that.
• 37:57
  That's a really good song now. I do have that.
• 38:01
  I'll take that too. Boom boom boom.
• 38:05
  I think we officially have a conversation to fill out the
• 38:07
  list. Yeah, we got 3 twos.
• 38:13
  Boom. Take that two, Peter.
• 38:19
  I'm going to try one of my picks from the B sides record.
• 38:24
  Perfect present. No.
• 38:28
  Don't have it I. Thought that was a swing.
• 38:34
  Yeah, yeah. It'd be nice to get one of those
• 38:38
  in. But if it feels like we're all
• 38:40
  kind of, we have different songs from that one, kind of found us.
• 38:47
  All right, Andrew. I'll go another one from
• 38:55
  Magnified Moth. No.
• 39:02
  I do not have it. Boom, all right back around to
• 39:11
  me. I feel like maybe we do two more
• 39:14
  because that'd bring me to like I think 6.
• 39:23
  I'll try a magnified. How about wet gravity?
• 39:31
  Yeah, I got it. I'll take that.
• 39:35
  I'll take it to there. All right, Peter.
• 39:44
  How about going to butcher the pronounce pronunciation of this
• 39:50
  song but macaque from comfort? I got it.
• 39:58
  Yeah, I got it. No one wins.
• 40:02
  They actually, when they, when they would play that live back
• 40:06
  when it came out, they were touring with Tool and Adam Jones
• 40:10
  from Tool would come on stage and play that with them.
• 40:13
  Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, that that's crazy.
• 40:18
  That first album cycle, they did all their touring with Tool, so
• 40:21
  that was 92. You imagine like seeing failure
• 40:28
  pouring comfort and Tool pouring what would have been undertow,
• 40:34
  Yeah. I think so at that.
• 40:35
  Time 92 like God damn. Wow yeah holy shit, that would
• 40:43
  have been a heavy show firstly. Yeah.
• 40:48
  It is funny that that's the song you went with, Peter, because
• 40:50
  that was the song I was debating going with, but I didn't want to
• 40:52
  say it. I looked at the title and say I
• 40:56
  don't know how to say that. I just call it macaque.
• 41:00
  Macaque. Macaque.
• 41:05
  Guys, we're at 9 and there's still like a couple songs out
• 41:10
  here. So, Andrew, your turn.
• 41:17
  All right, let's go. Let's go back to Fantastic
• 41:22
  Planet. What's the closer daylight?
• 41:28
  No, yeah, unfortunately couldn't take him off.
• 41:30
  And but I will say that somebody's answer on on threads
• 41:37
  was he, he said basically everything after Segway 3 all
• 41:42
  the way to daylight. Like he said, it's just
• 41:46
  perfection. Yeah, that album, like Side B of
• 41:51
  Fantastic Planet is yeah, it's, it's just unreal.
• 41:55
  It's such a good ending too. Like Daylight ends on this like
• 41:58
  big huge, like building up note. And then when it drifts out,
• 42:03
  it's with that like weird, like clicking, like almost like slot
• 42:09
  machine clicking like that. That starts out Saturday
• 42:12
  Saviour. So you could almost put the
• 42:14
  album on on a loop and it would just play like it's playing over
• 42:20
  and over again. Man, I feel bad for letting you
• 42:25
  down on that all. Right.
• 42:28
  That's all right. We'll call this our last round.
• 42:33
  I might as well trot out I still have a couple left here from
• 42:36
  Fantastic Planet. How about pitiful?
• 42:41
  No, no, I don't have that. Bend.
• 42:45
  All right, Peter. How about Solaris?
• 43:00
  No. No, I don't have that one all.
• 43:09
  Right, Andrew? OK, I'll go.
• 43:15
  The last one that I've got from Fantastic Planet is Dirty Blue
• 43:20
  Balloons. No.
• 43:24
  No. Boom, that's is the way this is
• 43:30
  playing out is really Oh no, never mind we've got 4 from
• 43:34
  fantastic planet so never mind never mind that statement.
• 43:41
  All right. Well, I'll start at the top from
• 43:46
  comfort something. Nah.
• 43:52
  I got it. All right.
• 43:54
  Hey, that's something. Yeah, ain't it?
• 44:01
  Moving on to Magnified Empty friend.
• 44:06
  Yeah. Now that was a late pad.
• 44:10
  All right, take that two. We did pitiful already so and I
• 44:15
  already know this is a 1 Leo. No.
• 44:20
  No all. Right.
• 44:22
  And then last but not least from the B side's mange.
• 44:29
  Nope, no good song. Yeah, that it just had a
• 44:33
  heaviness to it that I just, I couldn't move away from.
• 44:36
  So just like, man, that really kind of sets the table for where
• 44:41
  they're going to go. All right, no more unanimous are
• 44:50
  available. So 9 is going to win, which
• 44:52
  means none of us is going to win, but you have a chance to
• 44:56
  kind of get some more stuff in the combo here, Peter.
• 45:00
  Right. From the top salt wound.
• 45:04
  No, don't have it all right. Haleo Tropic don't have it and
• 45:19
  last one I have is pillow head. No, no pillow head.
• 45:27
  All right. Boom and boom, all right, and
• 45:31
  just for funsies. Andrew my last two I had
• 45:37
  wonderful life from magnified and I had wake up from the B
• 45:46
  sides. All right.
• 45:53
  I'll shift these around and then we'll run over the nine that
• 45:56
  I've already gotten in. I love that we are all positive
• 46:00
  and we out positive, out positive, our positive like
• 46:05
  that's kind of great. We all thought that it was
• 46:08
  possible. Just here we go. 9 already in
• 46:13
  submission. Stuck on you.
• 46:14
  The nurse who loved me. Princess Frogs.
• 46:16
  Let it drip Saturday, Saviour. Another space song in Macaque.
• 46:23
  All right, let's see what's alive still.
• 46:27
  Oh God, we got a good handful of twos here.
• 46:30
  Undone. Smoking umbrellas.
• 46:31
  Screen man. Wet gravity something.
• 46:34
  An empty friend. Oh wow, this is a turn of
• 46:38
  events. All of all those twos have me on
• 46:41
  them. Interesting.
• 46:43
  As I run down those two, Peter, is there like one that you're
• 46:47
  kind of that's kind of screaming out as at you?
• 46:50
  That should be the last song in. Shit, I mean I'd be OK with any
• 47:00
  of these, but I'm looking at empty friend.
• 47:05
  OK. What do you think, Andrew?
• 47:11
  I'm leaning to definitely the album Magnified since we have
• 47:18
  Free From Comfort and four from Fantastic Planet.
• 47:29
  I would personally lean towards Undone.
• 47:33
  It was their first music video they ever did.
• 47:39
  I believe it was the first song they ever.
• 47:42
  Well, yeah, obviously. I guess it would would have been
• 47:44
  the first song they ever had on MTV and it's just a really good
• 47:49
  song. I have both of those.
• 47:51
  That's hard. That is a hard choice.
• 47:58
  I know you guys can't hear it, but I'm going to do the thing
• 48:00
  that, you know, just to try to help me help this conversation
• 48:04
  along here. I'm going to play it a little
• 48:08
  bit in my ears. I don't know.
• 48:14
  I don't know that we can make a bad choice here.
• 48:16
  I mean, both of these are from the same album, which is
• 48:21
  helpful. They have the same kind of
• 48:25
  energy, too. Oh no.
• 48:29
  They both have such a thing along chorus too.
• 48:32
  Yeah, I don't know. And, and here's a crazy thing.
• 48:41
  We're looking at the similarities of these two songs.
• 48:43
  Undone 4 minutes 27. Empty Friend 4 minutes 21.
• 48:48
  Like, there's so many similarity.
• 48:50
  Like, this feat really does feel like a coin flip between these
• 48:53
  two songs. Have you ever done that on
• 48:57
  Episode Justin? We've done it twice.
• 49:05
  I think 1 was Teenage Wrist and I can't remember the other one,
• 49:09
  but it was John F and Randy. I just can't remember the band.
• 49:16
  I don't have a coin, but it it does I, you know, I feel like
• 49:21
  these are equally great and I think you're right.
• 49:25
  I think it has to be one of the magnified songs and then the
• 49:30
  only other magnified song we have available is Wet Gravity.
• 49:33
  But I think I think it's Undone or Empty friend and listening to
• 49:39
  them, they they give off the same vibe.
• 49:46
  Like normally I would kind of vibe it out and go, well, what
• 49:49
  don't we have represented? Oh man.
• 49:58
  I'm fine either with either of those.
• 50:01
  Like it really would have to be a coin flip.
• 50:04
  Yeah. I know this will help a lot, but
• 50:07
  I am also fine with either of them.
• 50:10
  They're both really great. Does anybody actually have a
• 50:15
  coin? Like I haven't had coins in.
• 50:17
  Years. I don't have a coin on me, I
• 50:19
  have one in the car. That's downloaded coin app.
• 50:23
  You know, yeah, right. Maybe there's some kind of
• 50:28
  widget in Google where I can say like pick between these two
• 50:32
  things for me? I'm trying to like break it down
• 50:38
  to like some sort of, you know, like, well, what do we have
• 50:43
  available? Like what do we already have in
• 50:48
  like is is empty friend the deep cut versus the song that people
• 50:53
  might possibly know like is that is that an angle?
• 51:00
  So the the thing with those two songs though, honestly, I think
• 51:05
  Empty Friend sounds more like it would have been a radio song.
• 51:12
  And Undone is a little bit more little bit more jarring.
• 51:20
  Like it's still catchy, but it's got that kind of like that
• 51:23
  backwards, like driving drum beat and the chords are all kind
• 51:30
  of like really like ringy and and high throat some parts and I
• 51:35
  don't know, it feel it feels really off kilter.
• 51:38
  It's kind of weird to me that that was that was the single
• 51:43
  because there's, you know, there's definitely cat ear songs
• 51:46
  on on magnified. So I guess like when you think
• 51:50
  about this band, Peter, like, is it, do you, do you learn more
• 51:55
  towards something catchy like that?
• 51:56
  Or Because I know we're all kind of in the same place, we're good
• 51:59
  with either, but it feels like one of us has to kind of go,
• 52:04
  yeah, this is the one at this point.
• 52:11
  I agree that empty friend is the more obvious choice of what
• 52:18
  should have been the single. And I think for people, we're
• 52:22
  just checking these guys out for the first time, like maybe we
• 52:25
  don't want to go for like something that's more out there.
• 52:32
  I guess like something I'd want to go with something a little
• 52:35
  bit more accessible. All right, so to that to that
• 52:38
  point, let me run down this 9 again, because I feel like on on
• 52:42
  the whole, this band is there is something jarring to this band,
• 52:47
  right? Like how big it is like how how
• 52:50
  it sounds submission stuck on you, the nurse who loved me
• 52:54
  Princess frogs let it drip Saturday savior another space
• 52:58
  song macaque do do we have room for something that is closer to
• 53:08
  straight up catchy versus or I guess maybe do we already have
• 53:13
  covered like a jarring sound. Do you think Andrew?
• 53:18
  So I think the three that we have from comfort all have a
• 53:24
  little bit of that that feel to them like that, that uneasy
• 53:30
  feeling to them. And then obviously Magnified is
• 53:36
  kind of like that transition. And then Fantastic Planet is
• 53:39
  where like everything's catchy. Oh man, I don't know, like
• 53:46
  Undone is like the like the comfort side of Magnified and
• 53:53
  Empty Friend is like the fantastic planet side.
• 53:57
  Yeah, yeah, So I guess oh man, we do have to just flip a coin,
• 54:03
  don't we? Because I.
• 54:05
  Yeah, there's merits here. I think.
• 54:07
  I think maybe. I think maybe Empty friend
• 54:11
  because like Submission, Macaque, Princess, Let it drip
• 54:18
  and frogs are all kind of like lean more into that like earlier
• 54:25
  feeling. And then we have Saturday
• 54:28
  Savior, The Nurse who Loved Me, Another Space song stuck on you.
• 54:33
  I think Empty Friend would kind of like lean closer.
• 54:40
  Yeah, 'cause then you get 5 and 5.
• 54:43
  OK, I'm with it. I mean, we were all we're all
• 54:46
  kind of like in the same space of it really could be either.
• 54:50
  So let's do empty friend. And I hate when it's like a song
• 54:55
  that was already on my list, because then I, you know, like
• 54:59
  I, I feel like I can't really tip the tip it either way.
• 55:04
  All right, let's do empty friend as #10 and then I'll run down
• 55:11
  this list one last go, and then we'll crank up the heat again.
• 55:16
  Come on, computer, stick with me here.
• 55:22
  All right, here we go. Submission stuck on you.
• 55:29
  The nurse who loved me. Princess Frogs.
• 55:31
  Let it drip. Saturday, Saviour.
• 55:33
  Another space song. Macaque.
• 55:34
  An empty friend rounds out our 10 appear.
• 55:39
  Out of those 10, which one do you think is the one?
• 55:44
  It's not stuck on you thought it out.
• 55:47
  Oh, I like that. What do you think, Andrew?
• 55:58
  I would. I would be between stuck on you
• 56:05
  and the nurse who loved me. Yeah, I think that's where I'm
• 56:09
  at. I think I think Stuck on You
• 56:17
  does what we want to do better. But I think I like I think I
• 56:23
  like the Nurse Who loved me more as far as like, if I'm weighing
• 56:27
  out the songs because like, it gets all chaotic at the end and
• 56:31
  it's like, yeah, that that screams this band.
• 56:35
  But I think maybe Stuck On You does what we want to do better
• 56:42
  while still being the band. Yeah, yeah, I I agree.
• 56:49
  Like stuck on you, like drags you in immediately.
• 56:52
  Like it's immediately Kefi, it's immediately like an ear worm.
• 56:57
  I mean, and then, yeah. If we thought, like if we really
• 57:02
  wanted to throw people off the scent, but I really do think
• 57:07
  people should be way more into this band.
• 57:09
  So like, you know, when it comes to the end end of the year, like
• 57:15
  I want people to hear the thing that might actually get them
• 57:18
  into it. Not to say that nurse who loved
• 57:21
  me wouldn't, but I think that's a steeper entry then stuck on
• 57:27
  you, If that I I think I'm saying that right.
• 57:30
  I mean considering. Only a certain kind of listener
• 57:33
  is going to gravitate towards The Nurse Who Loved Me versus
• 57:43
  Stuck on You. I think like I think, I think
• 57:46
  Stuck on You is more of a universal like ear worm type
• 57:50
  song. And the Nurse Who Loved Me is
• 57:51
  like, you know, you kind of that's kind of like a song for
• 57:56
  someone that's just into like 90's rock and grunge and space
• 58:00
  rock and all that. Like it's kind of got that, that
• 58:04
  dreary, like cloudy feeling to it.
• 58:09
  And Stuck On You is a little bit more bright.
• 58:11
  Brian, see, we're talking to you.
• 58:13
  All right, so let's get let's go stuck on you since it was all on
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  all three of our lips. So stuck on you it is.
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  And let me run this down one last go and we'll wrap her all
• 58:29
  on up stuck on you submission the nurse who loved me Princess
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  frogs let it drip Saturday savior another space song
• 58:36
  macaque an empty friend rounds out our 10.
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  Let's let stuck on you get a moment in the sun bless.
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  I love how like it like the the thing like the the riff on top
• 59:03
  is like kind of playful and underneath it like those chords
• 59:07
  are just so dooney. Oh my God.
• 59:10
  Yeah. It's so great guys.
• 59:15
  I I think I found like a a band that I'm, I'm truly in love with
• 59:19
  here and you know, it happens on this show.
• 59:21
  It's not like it never happens, but it's, it's been a while
• 59:26
  since like, something has kind of really hit me right in the
• 59:30
  veins that I want to make room for in my life.
• 59:35
  So. And I'm absolutely going to be
• 59:37
  looking out when next time I go to the record store for Failure
• 59:39
  Records because God, yeah. Like the way they fill out the
• 59:43
  sound, I can only imagine pumping it, pumping a vinyl of,
• 59:47
  of this, like just cranking. Anyway, we've done it.
• 59:52
  We've turned you on to failure and I'm speaking again directly
• 59:57
  to you, Brian Z, and anybody else who kind of lives in that
• 1:00:00
  that where 90s is their wheelhouse.
• 1:00:03
  This is probably a band you may have overlooked.
• 1:00:05
  Don't anymore. We've given you a reason to get
• 1:00:08
  in. We've got the list for you to
• 1:00:10
  listen. If you were the type that
• 1:00:13
  really, really wants to do some work as well.
• 1:00:17
  Grab every song that we brought up.
• 1:00:19
  We covered a good portion of. As a matter of fact, let's do
• 1:00:22
  the stats real quick before we get out of here.
• 1:00:24
  How much did we cover? Out of 48 songs?
• 1:00:30
  We covered 33. So there was a handful that
• 1:00:33
  didn't didn't get brought in here.
• 1:00:35
  And keep in mind the three, three out of the four off of
• 1:00:39
  Fantastic Planet that didn't come up or Segways, and they're
• 1:00:43
  literally called that Segway. The only song that didn't come
• 1:00:46
  up was Blank. We we covered everything else.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah, we covered everything else.
• 1:00:51
  That's. A good song too.
• 1:00:55
  Off a magnified we didn't Bernie and small crimes weren't brought
• 1:00:59
  up. And then on comfort, muffled
• 1:01:01
  snaps, kindred and pro catastrophe didn't come up.
• 1:01:05
  And I mean, you know, golden was a hit or miss anyway.
• 1:01:09
  So you know, good, good handful of those didn't didn't get
• 1:01:13
  brought up. Just saying that if you're like
• 1:01:17
  me and you love the 90s, this is a band that you may have and and
• 1:01:21
  or probably did miss. Go back, scoop it all up, start
• 1:01:26
  with our 10. But I guarantee if, if you like
• 1:01:29
  all that stuff, you're going to love this band and just go ahead
• 1:01:32
  and do the dive. We're a podcast.
• 1:01:35
  Of course, it's in the name deprogrammed music podcast.
• 1:01:39
  So you probably already knew that already.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah. You're listening onto on some
• 1:01:44
  sort of podcast platform, I assume if whichever one it is,
• 1:01:49
  Spotify or Apple Podcasts, you can now leave comments and if
• 1:01:56
  you rate the show 5 stars be super appreciated.
• 1:01:59
  Actually on Spotify I can I can comment back which is pretty
• 1:02:02
  neat. You're leaving a review if you
• 1:02:05
  do it on Apple Podcast again, would super appreciate it.
• 1:02:09
  Both of those things definitely help get us seen more.
• 1:02:12
  Sharing is also caring. Would appreciate that a great
• 1:02:15
  deal. If you'd like to help out
• 1:02:17
  monetarily, understand that things are tight, but if you've
• 1:02:21
  got a dollar a month, it gets you in the door.
• 1:02:23
  That gets you the episode or the podcast that we're about to
• 1:02:28
  record after the fact. The discussion continues, we're
• 1:02:32
  about to record that and that hits Patreon almost immediately.
• 1:02:35
  Like as as soon as we hit stop, I almost immediately upload it.
• 1:02:39
  So it will upload tonight. You also get deprogrammed before
• 1:02:44
  the rest of the world. You also get access to certain
• 1:02:46
  channels and discord, which is cool.
• 1:02:49
  It also gets you an automatic invite to our discord which it
• 1:02:53
  leads in a stupid discord. If you'd like to join the
• 1:02:55
  discord but didn't don't want to give the dollar, understand like
• 1:02:58
  I said, times is tough. I understand.
• 1:03:02
  Just join by searching the Legion of stupid, hop in the the
• 1:03:06
  discord and grow a tree with us. It's fun.
• 1:03:10
  You can grow a tree count. You can count with us.
• 1:03:13
  I think Peter, you said it's kind of like kindergarten in
• 1:03:16
  there, Like it's very grade school, but it's fun it and you
• 1:03:21
  know, we talk about the show in there.
• 1:03:23
  There's also a channel where if you wanted to sign up, you can
• 1:03:28
  find panelists to do shows with you like, hey, I'd love to do
• 1:03:32
  this band. Anybody want to talk about Band
• 1:03:35
  X? So that's in there.
• 1:03:37
  There's also Music League, which all which is great, all sorts of
• 1:03:40
  great stuff happening in the Legion of stupid discord.
• 1:03:43
  If none of that's for you, but you still want to help, neither
• 1:03:48
  of those other things work for you.
• 1:03:50
  I, I mentioned this before, sharing is caring, but the
• 1:03:53
  biggest way you can help is by telling somebody that you listen
• 1:03:56
  to the show. Hey, I listen to Deprogrammed
• 1:03:59
  and you should too. And with that failure, learn and
• 1:04:03
  love people. We'll see you next week.
• 1:04:06
  Bye.