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JFK Book Reviews - Killing Of A President By Robert Groden · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to JFK Book Reviews, a
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  Speaker 1: division of the Lone Gumming Podcast. I'm Rob Clark, He's
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  Speaker 1: Joe Borelli, and today we're going to be reviewing the
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  Speaker 1: book Killing of a President by Robert Jay Grodin. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you've heard of him one in case you haven't, ironically enough,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Robert Groden was born on November twenty two, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: forty five, so he shares a birthday with the anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of the president's death. Oh wow, Yeah, he's uh he said,
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  Speaker 1: he said, quite the lengthy tenure as a conspiracy researcher,
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  Speaker 1: if you will. I didn't know this, Joe, but he
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  Speaker 1: dropped out of high school in eleventh grade and somehow
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  Speaker 1: managed to make himself a photographic expert, the photo optics technician,
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  Speaker 1: and a photographic consultant for the House Select Committee on
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  Speaker 1: Assassinations in nineteen seventy six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I believe he was in the army too at
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  Speaker 2: some point.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he authored. He has authored five books about the
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  Speaker 1: assassination over the years, and this is one of them.
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  Speaker 1: This is also being the second. The first was what
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  Speaker 1: was it the case for conspiracy that he did? And
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  Speaker 1: he co authored that book. Now, this book here, Killing
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  Speaker 1: of a President has a subtitle it is the complete
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  Speaker 1: photographic record of the JFK assassination, the conspiracy and the
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  Speaker 1: cover up, so wide ranging here on this book. This
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  Speaker 1: book was published in nineteen ninety three by Viking Studio Books,
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  Speaker 1: a division of the Penguin Group out of New York,
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  Speaker 1: and it does have a forward by Oliver Stone. And
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  Speaker 1: we should also mention that as of the recording of
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  Speaker 1: this here book review, Robert Gordon is still with us,
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  Speaker 1: still active in the community, still attending conferences, still very
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  Speaker 1: much interested in the subject.
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  Speaker 2: Saw him a few weeks ago. Great guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He was also a consultant for the movie JFK.
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  Speaker 1: He met with Oliver Stone several times and really helped
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  Speaker 1: the actors get into their roles and understand the gravity
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  Speaker 1: of the situations that they were put into. This book
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  Speaker 1: has about two hundred and thirty pages. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it has a ford written by Oliver Stone and introduction one.
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  Speaker 3: Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine chapters, a
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  Speaker 3: bibliography and an index, and also a suggested documentary list
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  Speaker 3: that maybe you should watch again.
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  Speaker 1: This was nineteen ninety three though, so I'm sure the
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  Speaker 1: list has grown since then, Joe sure it haes. Now
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  Speaker 1: this book here, you can get it on Amazon in hardcover,
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  Speaker 1: which is the original format and the one that I
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  Speaker 1: would suggest that you do get because I will say
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  Speaker 1: this about Robert Groden's books take Away the High Treasons,
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  Speaker 1: but his Lee Harvey Oswald book in this book the
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  Speaker 1: Killing of a President, and I believe the case for
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy or I'm sorry JFK. Absolute Proof. Sorry, his most
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  Speaker 1: recent one are all big, beautiful, colorful books, and of
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  Speaker 1: course Groden is big into photography, so these books are
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  Speaker 1: filled with pictures color and black and white and printed
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  Speaker 1: on nice glossy paper. So you definitely want to get
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  Speaker 1: the hardcovers now on Amazon. You're looking anywhere from used
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  Speaker 1: thirteen bucks to forty three brand new. And I believe
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  Speaker 1: Groden has always tried to sell his own books from
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  Speaker 1: his own website, so a lot of these things here
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  Speaker 1: you might be getting secondhand, if you will, in new condition. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he does tend to overcharge a little bit from his
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  Speaker 1: own personal website. You know, I think his most recent book,
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  Speaker 1: Absolute Proof, he was charging like eighty or one hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: But again I'm not going to trash this guy too much.
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  Speaker 1: Doing books like these is very hard work. And when
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to support yourself and your activities in this
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  Speaker 1: whole conspiracy research game, you know, you try to recoup
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  Speaker 1: your costs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeap.
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  Speaker 1: That being said, Joe, this book definitely has a conspiracy
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  Speaker 1: lean to it, I would say, for sure. And with that,
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  Speaker 1: I'll turn it over to you for the meat and taters, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. So what was the author trying to achieve with
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  Speaker 2: this book? Well, thankfully, as we like to see, he
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  Speaker 2: tells us induction. Since March of nineteen seventy five, I
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  Speaker 2: have received thousands of requests for copies of the photographic
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  Speaker 2: evidence in the Kennedy case. The photo collection contained in
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  Speaker 2: this book is the response to those requests. Many of
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  Speaker 2: these pictures are unpleasant and sensitive in nature, but must
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  Speaker 2: be published in the interest of historical accuracy. Some of
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  Speaker 2: the photography is admittedly of inferior quality, and we must
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  Speaker 2: remember that many of the photographs were taken by amateurs
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  Speaker 2: in rushed and unsettling circumstances. That is for sure. They
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  Speaker 2: are true, unaltered reflections of history and the making, and
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  Speaker 2: are offered here with the intent to keep alive of
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  Speaker 2: who really killed JFK? And like you mentioned, Rob, the
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  Speaker 2: subtitle of this book is the Complete photo graphic Record
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  Speaker 2: of the k Assassination, the conspiracy, and the cover up.
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  Speaker 2: And you know there how many chapters did you count.
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  Speaker 1: So long ago? I think it was nine?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Many, yeah, But almost every page has a picture
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  Speaker 2: on it, or a document or or or a map
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  Speaker 2: or an image, and so it really is that, and
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  Speaker 2: it is really well written, and it goes in chronological order,
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  Speaker 2: which if anyone who is familiar with our show knows
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  Speaker 2: when we review different topics, we love to do that
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  Speaker 2: and we respect it. It's also important to consider when
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  Speaker 2: this book was released, Rob. It was released in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety three, the first one, not counting other versions, and
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  Speaker 2: that is right after the JFK Records Act, right and
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  Speaker 2: before THERRB started. So it really did contribute I think
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of the momentum and photo documentary record
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  Speaker 2: in a key time in my opinion. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So the book features over six hundred and fifty photographs, maps, drawings,
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  Speaker 2: documents and enhanced images. I don't know how many were
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  Speaker 2: previously released or suppressed. I think a lot of them.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, there is a lot of value there.
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  Speaker 2: He talks about, you know, detailed analysis of the superter film,
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  Speaker 2: does kind of a frame by frame type of thing,
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  Speaker 2: and other show photos. He goes into the medical, the
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  Speaker 2: ballistics and acoustics evidence, alleges some forgery and some autopsy photos,
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  Speaker 2: and of course challenges the magic bullet theory, which is
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  Speaker 2: of course silly. You know, I really liked how he
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  Speaker 2: started off, well, he starts off with a document in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of his intro, but in one of his
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  Speaker 2: sub chapters, called the Police Response, I really like how
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  Speaker 2: he presented the transcripts of police Chief Jesse Curry and
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  Speaker 2: Sheriff Bill Decker and the radio instructions to their men
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  Speaker 2: to immediately investigate the top of the grassy knoll in
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  Speaker 2: the railroad yard behind it. These orders, given quickly in
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  Speaker 2: response to the gunfire, indicate that both Curry and Decker
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  Speaker 2: were convinced that the shots came from the knoll. Their
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  Speaker 2: car was directly in front of it when the shooting began.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, he might have some of the clearest
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  Speaker 2: picks of dark complexed man who many researchers among myself,
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  Speaker 2: and not that I want to put words in your mouth.
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  Speaker 2: I believe you believe was Felipe vital Santiago, noted Cuban exile.
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  Speaker 2: My only qualms with the book are the mysterious death project,
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  Speaker 2: which are kind of interjected like every few pages, in
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  Speaker 2: every chapter and sub chapter. And you you know, people
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  Speaker 2: have who have watched our show know some of our
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on you know, not every death was mysterious. People die,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to read a couple of the mysterious
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  Speaker 2: death claims. Let's see Hank Killim, the husband of one
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  Speaker 2: of Jack Ruby's strippers, Wanda Joyce. Killim was found with
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  Speaker 2: his throat slashed in March of nineteen sixty four. Before
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  Speaker 2: his death, kill Him had stated to his brother, I
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  Speaker 2: am a dead man, but I have to run as
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  Speaker 2: far as I'm going to run. Now. Does that have
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  Speaker 2: to do with the jfk assassination. I don't know. Beverly
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  Speaker 2: Oliver's husband, George McGann, was murdered in the home of
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  Speaker 2: a man named Ronnie Whedon. Convicted killer Charles Harrelson, who
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  Speaker 2: knew Whedon from prison, claimed that Whedon had killed McGann
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  Speaker 2: and that he had a reputation of a hitman. Again,
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  Speaker 2: not sure what that has to do with JFK. In
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine, Deputy Buddy Walters, who we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: on the show, was killed in a hotel room while
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  Speaker 2: trying to arrest a wanted criminal. It allowed the naked
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  Speaker 2: suspect to go into the bathroom and dress. When the
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  Speaker 2: man emerged with a gun, he shot Walthers in the
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  Speaker 2: chest and killed him. Related to JFK, James Warrell, a witness,
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  Speaker 2: Indi Lee Plaza, was also killed under suspicious circumstance, died
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  Speaker 2: in a car accident. David Goldstein, who had assisted the
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  Speaker 2: FBI in tracing the revolver used in the typic killing,
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  Speaker 2: died in nineteen sixty five of seemingly natural causes. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and William Whaley, of course, the cab driver died in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five and and was like the only cabby
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  Speaker 2: who was killed since thirty seven in Dallas or something.
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  Speaker 2: But do these have to have to do with a
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  Speaker 2: JFK assassination. I'm not sure. I don't know. So the book,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a huge resource, and if I
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  Speaker 2: can get it for under twenty bucks first copy original,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it because I have the PDF version
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  Speaker 2: and I'd love to have it in hand. And for sure,
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  Speaker 2: the quality is really nice. So the book is pretty
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  Speaker 2: much visual. It's not as much as a hardcore research
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  Speaker 2: book or a who Done It type of conspiracy type
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  Speaker 2: book of course, hence the subtitle. So considering what the author,
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  Speaker 2: mister Grodin had hoped to accomplish with this book in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the photographic evidence, I think he did it very,
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  Speaker 2: very effectively. And with that, sir, I'm going to hand
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  Speaker 2: it back to you for your rating.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, I've always been a fan
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  Speaker 1: of people who stand on business, and while I may
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  Speaker 1: not agree with everything Robert Grodin has said and done
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  Speaker 1: over the years, we do have to credit the man
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  Speaker 1: with a few things as well as writing these books,
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  Speaker 1: and that is getting the Zapruva film on national television
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  Speaker 1: on the Heralder Rivera Show in nineteen seventy five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he helped with that.
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  Speaker 1: For sure, and he probably prompted very much a second
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  Speaker 1: House Select Committee or second investigation you know, done by
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  Speaker 1: the House Selectmmittee on Assassinations, of which you know, we
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  Speaker 1: have an invaluable treasure trove of documents and revisiting reinvestigation
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  Speaker 1: of the case so got alone is awesome, and not
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  Speaker 1: to mention the fact that over the past thirty or
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  Speaker 1: forty years, you know, this man has parked his ass
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  Speaker 1: in Dally Plaza, peddling his wares and talking to people
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  Speaker 1: on the daily, which is I think an admirable thing.
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  Speaker 1: He also fought the city of Dallas over his many
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  Speaker 1: tickets and one you know, so I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all that is admirable for sure, you know. But back
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  Speaker 1: to the book a little bit. As you said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not meant to be a you know, word heavy
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  Speaker 1: page turner. What it does do very well, Joe, is
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  Speaker 1: it covers a multitude of subjects briefly and almost thoroughly,
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  Speaker 1: which is a very hard thing to accomplish. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this book goes into all just about everything you can
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  Speaker 1: imagine aspects of the case. Any beginner to the case,
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  Speaker 1: I would recommend get this book, yep, because it has
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  Speaker 1: literally included in it most I won't say all, but
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  Speaker 1: most of the photographs associated with this case, and they're
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  Speaker 1: reproduced here in beautiful as clear quality as you're going
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  Speaker 1: to find anywhere, really, and you will get a very
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  Speaker 1: wide general overview of the entire case. By having this book.
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  Speaker 1: Reading through this book, like I said, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: could probably do this in a day, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: come out on the other side, you know, having actually
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  Speaker 1: learned something. You know, I was flipping through this book.
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  Speaker 1: Now we don't me and Joe don't have actual physical
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  Speaker 1: copies of this book. We have the PDF file. Sorry, Robert, uh,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just as beautiful as the physical copy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: although I can't spank it in front of you today.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, as we were going back over this
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  Speaker 1: book and regoing through everything, you know, somebody like me
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  Speaker 1: who's been looking in the case thirty some years, I
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  Speaker 1: still there was two pictures in this book that jumped
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  Speaker 1: out to me that I don't remember seeing anywhere. Here's
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  Speaker 1: one of them, Joe, this is just one of them.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why this isn't. This is intriguing
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  Speaker 1: to me. So okay, uh. The black kid in the
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  Speaker 1: forefront of the picture, that's Roy Lewis. We recently had
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  Speaker 1: Ed Dow on this show and he's been talking to
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  Speaker 1: Roy Lewis for years now. At the time, Roy Lewis
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  Speaker 1: was working at the school Book Depository under age. He
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  Speaker 1: was fourteen or fifteen years old, so he's still relatively young,
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  Speaker 1: you know, at least in his seventies now as far
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  Speaker 1: as you know, witnesses to the assassination go. So that's
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  Speaker 1: very interesting. And I don't know who the big boy
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  Speaker 1: is in front of him, uh, but it's a big fella.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: What's also interesting in this photo is do you see
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  Speaker 1: the cop in the middle with the badge on his
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  Speaker 1: arm and the big thick neck ears sticking out right
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the photo. Joe, do you seem.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, looking towards the TSBD.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, all right. Now follow the top of his head
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  Speaker 1: and then to the right, and you'll see a figure
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  Speaker 1: standing on the steps of the depository looking up at
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  Speaker 1: the front entrance of the depository who has a very
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  Speaker 1: suspicious looking hairline. To me, Joe, yeah, you see that.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's not Billy Lovelady, because we know Billy Lovelady
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  Speaker 1: was wearing a red and black and like dark blue
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  Speaker 1: checkered button up collared shirt that day, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: see that in this picture because you can see Roy Lewis,
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  Speaker 1: he's got on a red or dark brown jacket, so
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  Speaker 1: the color would come through if that was Billy Lovelady
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  Speaker 1: wearing a red mostly red and dark colored shirt. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't see that. It's things like this that when
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  Speaker 1: you take the time to really study these photographs in
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  Speaker 1: the book, that you know, you can maybe find something
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  Speaker 1: to be like hmm, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that could be possibly because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we we don't have what we don't have, Joe, we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of photographs from this day. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: we don't have from this day are photographs of Lee
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  Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald leaving the depository one. So could this be
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  Speaker 1: him on the steps waiting to leave?
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  Speaker 2: Right and knowing knowing Lee's personality, Hey, work is done
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  Speaker 2: for the day, I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Me like, you know, the guy standing there with his
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  Speaker 1: arms crossed, listening to something you know, or watching something
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But that's just an example of the
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  Speaker 1: of the amazing photographs that you will find in this book, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: So with that being said, now there they're there's some
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  Speaker 1: faults in this book, as Joe mentioned some of them.
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  Speaker 1: Now I understand why they included the mysterious deaths. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's something that's always going to sell, right, that's conspiracy fodder,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's something mysterious happened here. These people are dying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, mysteriously, these witnesses. You know, that's always going
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  Speaker 1: to sell books. But as I was going back through
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  Speaker 1: this book, I see that Robert Groden thinks that there
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  Speaker 1: was six shots definitely fired in Daly Plaza, and at
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  Speaker 1: least two or three more. He says that could possibly
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  Speaker 1: have been fired in Daly Plaza as well to account
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  Speaker 1: for certain other things. So you know, for me, I
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  Speaker 1: get alarm bells when I start seeing researchers saying that
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  Speaker 1: there's you know, seven, eight, nine, thirteen shots, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and they're coming from every direction known demand. But he
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  Speaker 1: lays them out. I don't I don't buy all that
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  Speaker 1: because we have no witnesses that said that they heard
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  Speaker 1: six to eight shots, not even with echoes. Okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: not one, not one. But with that being said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for all it's its faults and warts and blemishes, this
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  Speaker 1: still comes off as a beautiful book, a great primer
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  Speaker 1: for newbies and old folks like us. I like, you
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  Speaker 1: know that occasionally find something new and it's always good
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  Speaker 1: to go back. So Joe, I'm gonna give this book,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, just the kind of work that someone
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  Speaker 1: has put out. Like, you know, this guy's been around
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. He's been looking at this for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. He has not oversaturated the conspiracy or
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  Speaker 1: research community with books. You'll see some people that just
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  Speaker 1: keep cranking fucking books out year after year after year
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  Speaker 1: because they got a new theory or something, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. Like you can tell he put his
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  Speaker 1: heart and soul into each book that he did to
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  Speaker 1: make it as beautiful as possible and as expensive as possible.
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  Speaker 1: So with that being said, Joe, I'm going to give
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  Speaker 1: this book for everything that it is, not what it isn't,
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  Speaker 1: but everything that it is. I'm giving this book a
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  Speaker 1: nine out of ten.
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  Speaker 2: Guns up, baby, I believe that is tied for our
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  Speaker 2: highest score. And yeah, I mean, as we do these reviews,
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  Speaker 2: like we say at nauseum, we we tried to see
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  Speaker 2: what the author was trying to achieve. And the subtitle
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  Speaker 2: being the Complete Photographic Record of the jfk Assassination. He
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  Speaker 2: has every photograph from the from the arrival in Dallas
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  Speaker 2: to the motorcade, to the aftermath to Parkland to tip
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  Speaker 2: it to on and on not right. Guy obviously had
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  Speaker 2: a was very involved you know, Oliver Stone using him
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  Speaker 2: as a advisor right to his movie. Uh, because I
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  Speaker 2: think the goal was to just you know, because every
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a I could be wrong. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think there's a page in this book that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have a picture with a caption or something like that,
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  Speaker 2: or a document or something thing. Right. Uh, it's crazy,
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  Speaker 2: And I think he did a great job. This might
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  Speaker 2: be my favorite Wroten book. And I'm going to give
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  Speaker 2: it a very very solid eight guns up. And I
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  Speaker 2: am going to order the hardcover first edition because I
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  Speaker 2: want to see these pictures in person. It's different than
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  Speaker 2: seeing them online.
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  Speaker 1: So well makes you give website support the man, to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: support the.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I will. He's a good he's a good guy.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: He's he's been very nice and his wife is a
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: sweetheart as well. And good people, good intentions, and definitely
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a book worth having. And like you said, Rob, definitely
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: probably one of the best books to start with photographically,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: if not the best book.
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  Speaker 1: And for ease of reading and absorbed absorption of many
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  Speaker 1: different theories and characters and scenarios and everything else. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's a great it's probably the greatest primer
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  Speaker 1: I've ever seen to be able to lay everything out
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  Speaker 1: in front of you with pictures. I mean, you can't
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• 26:29
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  Speaker 1: I've said warts in this episode. Yes, and that's no
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: slant it Robert Grodon. He has no warts at least
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  Speaker 1: and All. Right Joe yes, right, Joe yea third time? Yes,
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