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He Got ARRESTED Before His First Day... Then Still Asked for the Job · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 1: He spent his entire first week of employment in jails.
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  Speaker 2: After eight hours on the job.
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  Speaker 3: He understood our business better than the people who'd been
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  Speaker 3: running it for years.
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  Speaker 1: A minor logistics issue. I've been arrested. See you next week.
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  Speaker 4: He's literally hiding under his desk, vaving a thing horrible.
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  Speaker 4: He was fired before lunch on his first day.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: How all these stories end?
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  Speaker 5: This is The Bad Hire, the show with the best
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  Speaker 5: stories about the worst employees.
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  Speaker 4: We fired him.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, people are crazy.
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  Speaker 6: It's like an hr nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: Rfe one Bad Hire stole all of that crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 7: She got what she deserved.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: I'm your host, Ken Monroe, and every week we dive
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  Speaker 5: into real life stories from the wild world of work
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  Speaker 5: and what can happen when the wrong person gets the job.
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  Speaker 5: These stories aren't just crazy when they're cautionary tales about
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  Speaker 5: lessons learned the hard way.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get started.
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  Speaker 3: Hey everyone, and welcome back to The Bad Hire, the
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  Speaker 3: show with the best stories about the worst and most
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  Speaker 3: unfortunate employees. I'm back with Morgan and Emma.
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  Speaker 7: What's up, guys.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you're doing? Hi good? You would.
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  Speaker 7: Emma's not doing good.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently, I'm fine. I'm fine, Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: You think we're filming on a Monday, but it's Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it feels like we're filming on the.
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  Speaker 7: Mon It does because it's the first time I've been Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I say, by the time, I don't know when this
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  Speaker 1: wepsode will get released, but this is about to be
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  Speaker 1: good Friday, So everybody's ready to go weekend you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the last day of the week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For us, we take the day off on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very excited, very nice.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you guys know the drill.
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  Speaker 3: Every week we dive into the wildest, the weirdest, and
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  Speaker 3: some of the most jall dropping hiring fails from offices,
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  Speaker 3: job sites, organizations all the country. And don't forget running
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  Speaker 2: Story of the year.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the year, we're going to pick
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  Speaker 3: one and give someone ten thousand dollars. So we encourage
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  Speaker 3: you to go to the Badhire dot com and find
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  Speaker 3: out how to submit his story to us, or even
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  Speaker 3: get on the show to do a segment like you
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  Speaker 3: see every once in a while or pretty regularly now
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  Speaker 3: I think see a segment where someone tells the story
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  Speaker 3: when they're talking to one of our producers shooting one
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  Speaker 3: of our one of the segments. But yeah, that's good
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, well let's get into it and.
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  Speaker 3: I'll start it off, all right, So here we go. So,
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  Speaker 3: so I bring in a new hire, first day, clean slate,
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  Speaker 3: fresh start.
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  Speaker 2: He walks in, looks.
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  Speaker 3: Around, takes it all in, and then almost immediately starts
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  Speaker 3: telling everyone, me included, everything we're doing is wrong. One
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  Speaker 3: of those people, one of those who you remember, the
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  Speaker 3: guy who knows himself as the smartest person.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I don't like these types of people as I do,
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  Speaker 8: and I don't mean a little constructive feedback or cash
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  Speaker 8: or you know, a casual Hey, I noticed something you
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  Speaker 8: might want to look at.
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  Speaker 3: He walked in and treated his first day like he
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  Speaker 3: was a turnaround consultant, conducted a hostile takeover. Systems were broken,
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  Speaker 3: processes were inefficient, leadership had no idea what they were doing.
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  Speaker 3: He'd apparently seen better operations at a lemonade stand. So
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  Speaker 3: I listened politely for as long as I could, then
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  Speaker 3: walked him back to HR oh my god, and let
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  Speaker 3: him go first while sure this guy was stunned. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: I just gave you some of the greatest advice your
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  Speaker 3: company's ever going to hear.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's no telling where your company would be
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  Speaker 4: if I hadn't come in here and told you everything
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  Speaker 4: you were doing.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't fire him. We've I fired him, but on
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  Speaker 3: the first day. Not for incompetence, not for anything dishonest,
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  Speaker 3: just the completely unshakeable belief that after eight hours on
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  Speaker 3: the job, he understood our business better than the people
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  Speaker 3: who had been running it for years.
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  Speaker 4: Gosh, the infamous fired on the first day, she wrote.
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  Speaker 3: She wrote, day one is orientation, not a ted talk.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's so true.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you're just like trying to be as polite
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  Speaker 1: as possible and like be like, oh, like tell me
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  Speaker 1: about it, like.
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  Speaker 2: Fun. Yeah. So I imagine people were.
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  Speaker 7: Just like hmm, I'm like, okay, this is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So the executives, the owner of the CEO, you think
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  Speaker 3: they're really like the dumbest people ever to run a
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  Speaker 3: company to see, honest, yes they are.
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  Speaker 2: I just need to be the CEO.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it'll be okay, Yeah, let's just promote me day one.
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  Speaker 7: I think I know how to run.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking to get it promoted like yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so if we get to day.
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  Speaker 7: Looks like we have a store sorry to react to though.
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  Speaker 1: If Marcus wants to cue it up for us, it's
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  Speaker 1: called mo is a good hire, so Rica, which actually
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  Speaker 1: he was weird this morning, grame, So I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is about me.
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  Speaker 7: Yes it is, Yeah, mo is a good hire.
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  Speaker 4: But it's Tom again. We love home. Tom.
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  Speaker 2: You're working with.
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  Speaker 6: Seaton Hall University and I was coming in to work
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  Speaker 6: with their top team and I drove on campus and
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  Speaker 6: there was a security guard. He was at the front desk.
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  Speaker 6: His name was Mo. And as soon as I rolled
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  Speaker 6: down my window and he said who are you, I said,
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  Speaker 6: I'm Tom, the guest speaker. His face lit. I was like, oh, Tom,
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  Speaker 6: I heard you were coming today. He's like, listen you
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  Speaker 6: before you leave campus, make sure you go to Sally's Donuts.
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  Speaker 6: But make sure you ask her for this specific type
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  Speaker 6: of donut because it's not on the menu, but she
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  Speaker 6: makes it and it's amazing. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 6: they probably told you to park in parking lot eight. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: don't park there, park here. In fact, let me take
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  Speaker 6: you there. So he goes. I'm like, Mo, this is amazing,
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much. I go into the session. It's
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  Speaker 6: all the provos, thats the vps, and I start and
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  Speaker 6: I just casually say that I'm like, hey, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Who's Mo.
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  Speaker 9: The whole room lit up with excitement and everyone had
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  Speaker 9: their MO story. And that's another thing I tell people
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  Speaker 9: is that title does not equal level of engagement, because
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  Speaker 9: MO probably does more value for the Oh actually, no,
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  Speaker 9: here the VP of admissions for that university. She said
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  Speaker 9: they do a survey every year of the people coming in,
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  Speaker 9: like why did you join and there's a write in option,
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  Speaker 9: and she said, you wouldn't believe the number of people
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  Speaker 9: who write in that mo is the reason they.
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  Speaker 3: Joined the story.
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  Speaker 7: That was awesome. So I love that storry we all need.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a great story. Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: I feel bad having to read a bad story after
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  Speaker 1: that one. I'm like, we can just wrap up there.
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  Speaker 7: For the day.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, let's end a really positive again.
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  Speaker 1: Tom's a great guest. We really appreciate Tom. He gave
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  Speaker 1: us a couple of great stories. But today I have
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  Speaker 1: one story, and it's so I'm a hiring manager and
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  Speaker 1: I've got a new hire starting on a Monday. Everything
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  Speaker 1: is ready, the desk was set up, it access provisioned,
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  Speaker 1: team debriefed, We're good to go. Monday morning comes and
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  Speaker 1: he's a no call, no show. Then a few minutes
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  Speaker 1: before he's supposed to walk in, I get a text
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  Speaker 1: he needs to push his start date back a week.
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  Speaker 1: Very sorry, can't explain right now. I was baffled, annoyed, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: but fine, one week, we'll manage. I wasn't until much
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  Speaker 1: later that I found out what actually happened on that
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  Speaker 1: Monday morning. He had been pulled over for a routine
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  Speaker 1: traffic violation, and during that stop police discovered an outstanding warrant.
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  Speaker 1: He spent his entire first week of employment in jail.
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  Speaker 1: He hadn't told me because I mean, what do you
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  Speaker 1: even say, Hey, minor logistics issue.
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  Speaker 7: I've been arrested, see you next week.
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  Speaker 1: And he did eventually start, and I found out the
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  Speaker 1: real reason way later down the line. But looking back,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how to feel about it, and part
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  Speaker 1: of me almost respects the audacity. A background check run
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  Speaker 1: before his start date would have flagged the warrant. We
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  Speaker 1: have waved it to move faster. I actually have another
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  Speaker 1: story after this.
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  Speaker 3: I just realized, did she say what she had?
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  Speaker 2: We had waved.
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  Speaker 1: It, says, a background check before his start date would
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  Speaker 1: have flagged the warrant.
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  Speaker 7: We have waved it to move it faster.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as they're trying to hire him quicker, so they
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  Speaker 1: wave the background check. That's also why you need good
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  Speaker 1: background checks. I come back in twenty four hours, so
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to wave a process like that.
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  Speaker 7: It's why we use b checks.
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  Speaker 4: Or maybe some oh I don't know, some continue.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine, can you imagine have a check three
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  Speaker 3: sixty five monitoring day one, and you add him, like
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  Speaker 3: when you hire him, you add him to the system. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: before his first on his first day.
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  Speaker 7: That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: You're just like, I'd be like really ready got to
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  Speaker 1: hit imagine logging into your checks for sixty five and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, automatically, Yeah, first.
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  Speaker 3: Day the job, you get a do you get an
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  Speaker 3: a rest alert?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: So my second story is, well, I've got a new
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  Speaker 1: hire coming in on their first day. They sit down
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  Speaker 1: in the lobby to fill out their new employee paperwork,
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  Speaker 1: totally normal routine stuff. My front desk is nearby, just
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  Speaker 1: doing their thing. Then right there in the lobby, in
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  Speaker 1: full view of security camera that was not hidden it
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  Speaker 1: in any way, this person reaches over and takes the
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  Speaker 1: front desk employee's wallet and their keys, then just goes
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  Speaker 1: right back to filling out their paperwork like nothing happened,
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  Speaker 1: or I.
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  Speaker 7: Guess it's steal a car, but it's like okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then the whole thing all was on camera camera, crystal
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  Speaker 1: clear timestamp and everything. They were fired before the ink
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  Speaker 1: dried on their w what what?
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  Speaker 3: Just totally lost of the story literally, So soon's there.
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  Speaker 1: They're filling out their paperwork, yeah, for their W.
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  Speaker 3: Two, and they range across the desk and take.
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  Speaker 7: The deal there in their keys to their employee.
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  Speaker 4: I guess the person at the desk was like paying
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  Speaker 4: attention to them signing out the form, and while he's
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  Speaker 4: like filling it out, he just I guess.
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  Speaker 7: There was doing their own discreetly. They were saying, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know, yeah I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was like yeah that.
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of wonderings, like how did they get
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  Speaker 3: his wallet? And maybe maybe the guy got up walked
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  Speaker 3: away or something, and thenybody walks away.
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  Speaker 7: He's like, here's the end.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah that too.
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  Speaker 7: When we review the footage.
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  Speaker 1: The theft itself was pretty straightforward, but the one question
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  Speaker 1: nobody could answer was what exactly what they were planning
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  Speaker 1: to do with the keys, and we.
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  Speaker 7: Never found out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah see li nd of keys.
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  Speaker 7: We're like where they house kids?
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like cars, it says, and their keys, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming maybe car keys. I mean I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: like what do you do? Just like wait till after
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  Speaker 1: you're done, but something.
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  Speaker 3: Seriously interest that is some serious behavior, like you cannot
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  Speaker 3: control yourself?
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  Speaker 7: What is the movies like now? You see me, now
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  Speaker 7: you don't. It's like the magician who like he thought
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  Speaker 7: he was doing.
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  Speaker 2: That real good.
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  Speaker 3: He thought his slight of hand was literally I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know if that was actually the movie title. I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm want to get a hate comment for that, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta I got it. Okay, good because I got a
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  Speaker 1: hate comment for not understanding the difference between Fortnite v
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  Speaker 1: Bucks and Clash of Clans.
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  Speaker 7: What whatever, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I apologize, guys, I don't know the difference.
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  Speaker 7: I work full time. Maybe you should as well.
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  Speaker 1: But fond back to my hate comments about the show.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I remember that.
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  Speaker 7: I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think i'm sorry about I'm like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: let's just address all the hate comments for well.
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  Speaker 4: The hate comments was like the hate the comment was
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  Speaker 4: about how they're not the difference between the two skins,
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  Speaker 4: and then yeah, the difference between the Yeah, the difference
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  Speaker 4: between money on both games, when that was not the
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  Speaker 4: point of the conversation.
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  Speaker 7: Literally, not a way.
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  Speaker 4: We were really focused on the wrong thing here, sorry.
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  Speaker 7: Related to some of your generations.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're trying to make the audience more relevant, but.
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  Speaker 7: It's apparently what was wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys take.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Let's just do a five minute episode. Responded to all
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  Speaker 1: hate comments.
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  Speaker 4: We should read. All of my replies that I make
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  Speaker 4: to people will be because they're really funny.
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  Speaker 3: Just a hair bit of sarcasm in them, Yeah, just
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I feel most of them are on YouTube too, YouTube shorts.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: You would think it'd be like Instagram reels, but apparently
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  Speaker 1: it's YouTube shorts that regive most and then a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah all right, em, what you got?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I've got two stories. Yeah, okay, here's my first one.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm working in sale in a sales call center
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  Speaker 4: about ten years ago, and we get a new house.
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  Speaker 4: Starting on a Monday morning. He gets trained on the basics,
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  Speaker 4: which takes about an hour, gets assigned a desk, and
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  Speaker 4: gets to work. About thirty minutes later, someone notices what
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  Speaker 4: looks like little puffs of steam rising up from behind
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  Speaker 4: his monitor. Turns out he's just vaping at his desk. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: The boss pulls it aside and explains that he can't
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  Speaker 4: vape indoors, but if he needs to, he's welcome to
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  Speaker 4: step outside on his break.
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  Speaker 7: Pretty reasonable, Okay. Thirty minutes later, same thing. Really chill boss,
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  Speaker 7: because yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I guess, like you get like three strikes are out.
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  Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know. But thirty minutes later, same thing,
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  Speaker 4: little clouds drifting up from behind the monitor. He gets
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  Speaker 4: told again, this time in no uncertain terms, if he
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  Speaker 4: wants to keep his job, he needs to stop vaping
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  Speaker 4: at his desk.
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  Speaker 1: Bro is so addicted he can't even go an hour
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  Speaker 1: without being a step outside.
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  Speaker 3: Like, well, that is one of the things about vaping,
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  Speaker 3: because it doesn't do this crazy odor that a cigarette. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they think they can just slip it in.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, any smell like fruit, cereal or something.
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  Speaker 2: They think they're doing everybody a favor. Yeah, I'm making
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  Speaker 2: place smell good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 4: An hour after that, someone notices he's gone quiet. They
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  Speaker 4: look over and he's literally hiding under his desk vaping.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's horrible. He was fired before lunch on
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  Speaker 4: his first day. Oh pretty much how all these stories end.
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  Speaker 4: And the kicker is like, he literally could have just
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  Speaker 4: gone outside.
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  Speaker 7: Literally they gave him he was to go outside.
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  Speaker 4: He was given the ash out.
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  Speaker 7: That's actually sad.
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  Speaker 4: I know it was really saying, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I don't I don't begrudge people who who vape.
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  Speaker 3: No no, this is this is somebody who's got is
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  Speaker 3: that the habit kind of like takeover. It's become completely compulsive.
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  Speaker 3: And now you got you know, if you can't wait
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  Speaker 3: two hours so you can step outside for ten minutes
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  Speaker 3: and vape it up.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, we're just don't hide under your desk.
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  Speaker 3: That's a little Yeah, but what did you think? That
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  Speaker 3: Actually didn't surprise me because I've seen so many people.
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  Speaker 1: Like calling from more of the ringside crowd, can't wait
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  Speaker 1: for one second?
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, played off.
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  Speaker 2: Like that, Oh it's coming out your neck. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's like there's didn't get away with it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, some people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he would just love free flow straight off
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  Speaker 1: the back of his computers. So I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: even knew the methods of trying to conceal it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think if you're in a call center, you
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  Speaker 3: looked around and you didn't see vape smoke everywhere, you'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, probably can't vape here.
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true, you would.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: You shouldn't have to put up a big sign so
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: there's no vaping.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Gosh.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd be surprised how many people can't follow basic instruction.
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, for real, but okay.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Here's my here's my last story for today. I'm a
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: hiring manager and I've got this candidate who looks great
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: on paper, solid resume. Interviews went well. You know a
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: lot of them start off this way.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It's true they just think of that.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: But I had this nagging gut feeling that something was
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: just a little off. I couldn't put my finger on it,
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: so I pushed through and made the offer. Anyway, We
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: ran a background check, the initial screener signed off, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: we were good to go. But something made me want
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: to take a second look at the education verification HM.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I bring him into HR and we tell him that
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: the university listed on his resume has absolutely no record
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: of him. And I don't mean they couldn't locate the
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: file or there was some administrative mix up. I mean
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: no record. He had never attended, never pul never even
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: set foot on the campus before. He had listed a
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: degree from a school he had never been to in
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: his life. And the part I still think about is
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: when we confronted him with this, he didn't get defensive,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: he didn't try to explain it away. He just calmly
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: asked if there was any flexibility on this point, Oh
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: my gosh, you and there was not.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Here's the deal, right.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: He immediately went to like the education, like does it
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: matter that I didn't go to school there?
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Not the fact that he just bold faced lot. It's
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the character issue. It's the issue problem.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: You didn't have to have a degree from there, we
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: would have hire you. Yeah, but the character issue makes
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: it a mix.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: It an absolute no go.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder if they were perfect on paper though
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because of their education, or it was if the education
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: had been removed, if they would still have been perfect
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: on paper.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I wonder what maybe them want to take
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: a second look at it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: There's so many stories about, you know, executives, like high
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: profile executives, getting blown out of their job because they yeah,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: they said that, well I got an NBA from here,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I got the special degree from there, And you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: at some point they they get where there's public attention
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: on them, and then some reporter starts to do some
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: background on them and goes, yeah, they didn't. You didn't,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: there's no record you at Harvard. Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, well, Harvard is a pretty big lie,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Like that is like an IVY League or one of
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the big schools. I feel like that's insane to lie
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: about on your wis. And I feel like if it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like some like you know, like communities to college or
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's like not as bad, but like Ivy.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: League, well yeah, I mean they're both bad.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: But to try and you went to claim you went
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to yeah you went to an Ivy League school certainly
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: is and and it happens and you just like, you know,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and and you know, people show up now with certificates,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you know, with with graduation certificates that are completely bogus.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I remember we call it one one time because one
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: of our one of our adjudicators was looking at it
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: and it didn't feel right, you know. She was like,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: it's something's not right here, and so she looked up
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the name of the president.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: Wasn't the right president.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It wasn't who.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Signed it, you know, the school president, yeah, chancellor or
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: whoever they are, and it was the current one and
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: it was like twenty years ago. And they just when
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: they did it, they just grabbed the chance.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: At you photoshop this thing really nicely.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You could have done the you could have done the homework,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: but that's crazy.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So he was let go, I get I totally
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: get there was no flexibility.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, apparently.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: The thought was there, Yeah, the thought was there.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: You know, you're going to Reddit and you find these.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Just threads. They're people are just going to.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Just lie, lie lie on your resume.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, he probably saw that for him, and I was like, oh.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do Oh yeah, yeah, I need I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: need a better education than I got.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: It doesn't work out, guys, I'm sorry.
• 20:35
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• 20:39
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