Latest / The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine / Kenton Remmey: War on Betty
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- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm going down the Ciga ride in the back of
- 0:12Speaker 1: the job job, da know, I not a.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Trigger jobs from the ship love job.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Fucking Today, we've got Kenton from war On, Betty Kenton.
- 0:34Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I've never interviewed somebody that looks like
- 0:37Speaker 3: they just escaped from prison.
- 0:39Speaker 4: But here we are. You know, like, you did the thing.
- 0:43Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Alcatraz or wherever it was,
- 0:45Speaker 4: but you did it.
- 0:46Speaker 1: And Charles Bronson or not Charles Bronson? Who's the Who's
- 0:50Speaker 1: who's the guy that Tom Hardy played in that one
- 0:52Speaker 1: movie where he's like fighting people in prison? That it
- 0:56Speaker 1: was Bronson?
- 0:57Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, it's.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Not Charles Bronson though, what's his first name? Charles Bronson's
- 1:01Speaker 1: an actor?
- 1:01Speaker 2: Yeah it is, yeah, Charles or Charlie, Yeah.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Something like that. Look at that, Yeah, you kind of
- 1:06Speaker 1: have that look going. I just realized that.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I usually get like Orange County real estate agent, but
- 1:13Speaker 2: I'll take it.
- 1:14Speaker 4: Is that what they look like. I don't work with
- 1:19Speaker 4: a real estate agent here in the Twin Cities.
- 1:22Speaker 3: It doesn't look anything like you Just be honest, and
- 1:25Speaker 3: I feel like I kind of know a few of them,
- 1:27Speaker 3: and they look nothing like you.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I just do things a little differently. I guess
- 1:33Speaker 2: when I say.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, I guess you just look like a
- 1:35Speaker 3: Minnesota inmate.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good look. It's a good look.
- 1:42Speaker 3: I mean, I'd rather I'd rather you look like that
- 1:44Speaker 3: than than a Minnesota real estate agent, to be honest,
- 1:53Speaker 3: love it.
- 1:54Speaker 1: So are you actually a realtor as well?
- 1:56Speaker 2: No, No I'm not. No, I'm terrible with all that stuff. Yeah,
- 2:02Speaker 2: as far as like being a salesman, i'd be like,
- 2:05Speaker 2: do you want can you afford that? Do you want
- 2:09Speaker 2: it to sign? Here?
- 2:12Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, you're very straightforward. You can't lie
- 2:16Speaker 1: to people, is what you're saying.
- 2:18Speaker 4: Yes, it's probably why you're the way you look like
- 2:21Speaker 4: you're in prison.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Right, you gotta you gotta sell that. You gotta sell that, judge. Right, Oh,
- 2:29Speaker 2: you know what it is?
- 2:30Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's like doctor Robotnik from the.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Modern you know what some people have been in some
- 2:37Speaker 2: of our in the comments sections, people put like the
- 2:41Speaker 2: gifts just whatever you call him, and it's and it's him.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense, But it's Jim carry version all right,
- 2:49Speaker 1: what's that? It's the Jim Carrey version though, right not Yeah, yeah,
- 2:54Speaker 1: because you're you're a pretty strong looking dude.
- 2:57Speaker 2: You don't.
- 2:57Speaker 1: You don't look like a like a tough cartoon. That's
- 3:02Speaker 1: an yeh.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 3:06Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just like I feel like I feel
- 3:09Speaker 3: like this is not taken as a compliment. The compliment
- 3:12Speaker 3: is I want you on my side, like if I
- 3:15Speaker 3: were to end up in prison, I'm trying to say, yeah,
- 3:18Speaker 3: you're the guy that I want on my side, so
- 3:21Speaker 3: I feel like I at least get lunch the next day.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fine, Yeah, come with me all.
- 3:28Speaker 4: Right like that.
- 3:29Speaker 3: That's that's that's the compliment I'm trying to give to
- 3:31Speaker 3: you right now.
- 3:34Speaker 1: I love it. This is awesome.
- 3:36Speaker 2: I love it it.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Okay, okay, war On Betty is awesome. Mason and I
- 3:42Speaker 1: are digging at big time all the way through, Like
- 3:45Speaker 1: like the music, the image, everything Lyrically, it's a lot
- 3:49Speaker 1: of fun. I feel like it harkens back to a
- 3:52Speaker 1: different kind of heavy music that I can't put my
- 3:57Speaker 1: finger on, almost like Andrew w k mm hmm. Interesting.
- 4:03Speaker 1: It's got like a little bit of like a like
- 4:05Speaker 1: a party vibe to an extent, or like it's not
- 4:09Speaker 1: that driving beat. Almost every song has got a driving
- 4:12Speaker 1: beat at some point that feels very danceable, you know
- 4:15Speaker 1: what I mean.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, I mean we don't uh, we
- 4:22Speaker 2: don't like focus too much on like I think we
- 4:25Speaker 2: just end up kind of kind of gets a little dance.
- 4:28Speaker 2: He Nate and I Nate Navarro. He and I run
- 4:32Speaker 2: the band war On Betty. He's the drummer from Cobra Starship,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and so we're like very influenced by you know, great rhythm.
- 4:42Speaker 2: It's not going to get your your toes tappen, but yeah,
- 4:45Speaker 2: I mean we're I mean, most of the guests you've
- 4:48Speaker 2: had on we've you know, been inspired by so much
- 4:53Speaker 2: like the Chariot. I don't know if you've had any
- 4:55Speaker 2: of that, any of it every time I die, folks,
- 4:58Speaker 2: but definitely would like to we'd like to, yeah about
- 5:02Speaker 2: any of them.
- 5:03Speaker 4: It's just saying yeah.
- 5:07Speaker 2: No, I appreciate the compliment. It's it's it's a ton
- 5:10Speaker 2: of fun. We've yeah, yeah, we've We've got a lot
- 5:14Speaker 2: more coming that we're we're excited to show everybody.
- 5:20Speaker 1: I love it.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:21Speaker 1: To me, it's almost like you guys are having the
- 5:25Speaker 1: most amount of fun your music videos alone. If people
- 5:29Speaker 1: haven't heard, if our listeners haven't heard or seen the
- 5:33Speaker 1: music videos from War on Betty, do yourself a favor
- 5:36Speaker 1: right now, like literally, pause this. I don't care if
- 5:38Speaker 1: you come back to it or not. Pause this and
- 5:40Speaker 1: go because they're amazing that. I feel like they say
- 5:43Speaker 1: everything that they that you need to know about War
- 5:46Speaker 1: on Betty right now. They're just there's so much fun.
- 5:51Speaker 1: I've watched each one at least ten times.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, appreciate it.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Yeah, we're Yeah. That means that you're that you're putting
- 6:01Speaker 1: a lot into like not just the music, but the
- 6:04Speaker 1: image of this and a lot of it is like
- 6:06Speaker 1: selling you as an individual. So you might not be
- 6:08Speaker 1: a good salesman because you can't lie to people, but
- 6:12Speaker 1: you are a great salesman for this band because you
- 6:15Speaker 1: are an enigma of sorts.
- 6:18Speaker 4: Definitely not lying about this band.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not lying.
- 6:22Speaker 2: I'm not lying about the band. No, yeah, no. Nate
- 6:28Speaker 2: and I love making music videos, that's the thing. Yeah,
- 6:31Speaker 2: we just want we want, we want the whole package
- 6:33Speaker 2: to come together. It's like, yeah, we we we love
- 6:37Speaker 2: all different kinds of heavy music and and you know,
- 6:42Speaker 2: it's we take it seriously, but it's like we want
- 6:44Speaker 2: to have fun with it, like you said, like we
- 6:47Speaker 2: want it to be it's not a joke. But you know,
- 6:50Speaker 2: the lighter side of things is just get crazy and yeah,
- 6:54Speaker 2: we want to always make our music videos interesting, you know,
- 7:00Speaker 2: not just put something out there that's visual because you
- 7:02Speaker 2: need to. It's like we want to create an experience,
- 7:06Speaker 2: you know. Same with live so mm hmm.
- 7:11Speaker 1: But I would say, like, I've seen a lot of
- 7:13Speaker 1: great music videos in my life, but a lot of
- 7:15Speaker 1: times those music videos are paired with some pretty subpar music. Right,
- 7:20Speaker 1: this is not subpar music. This is this is music
- 7:23Speaker 1: I would listen to for enjoyment often and I do.
- 7:27Speaker 1: And I think the pairing of those two things is essential.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Like it's clear that you're not just trying to sell
- 7:34Speaker 1: one part of the band. You're like you are. You're like, hey,
- 7:38Speaker 1: we're the total package, and and that has to do
- 7:41Speaker 1: a lot with you as an individual.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I think, oh, thank you, thank you. Yeah, it is
- 7:51Speaker 2: it still echoy, No, you're good, You're okay? Cool yeah,
- 7:55Speaker 2: cool cool?
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what it reminds me of and yeah,
- 7:59Speaker 3: I I don't know if you're familiar with this band
- 8:02Speaker 3: a plea for purging, but a plea for purging was
- 8:06Speaker 3: it was like super like metalcore band from like the
- 8:08Speaker 3: twenty tens, one of clinized favorite bands of all time.
- 8:12Speaker 3: But all of their music videos were always really hilarious,
- 8:16Speaker 3: but not in a way that like demean the music.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Like the music in and of itself like stood on
- 8:22Speaker 3: its own, and it just the music videos just like
- 8:25Speaker 3: accompanied it in a way where it was like, Wow,
- 8:28Speaker 3: this is really fun and the music is incredible, and
- 8:33Speaker 3: I don't know what, Like as soon as I saw
- 8:35Speaker 3: your guys like music videos, that's the vibe I got
- 8:38Speaker 3: from Warren Betty was the music in and of itself
- 8:41Speaker 3: stands on its own, and the music videos just like
- 8:47Speaker 3: accentuate it in a way where it's like this is
- 8:49Speaker 3: so much fun, and I get so many fun vibes
- 8:53Speaker 3: from this, where I'm like, well, of course I want
- 8:55Speaker 3: to like stage dive to this, like I want to
- 8:58Speaker 3: like dance around and be silly when I like listen
- 9:01Speaker 3: to this, Like that's that's the vibe I get from this.
- 9:03Speaker 3: And so anyway, it just reminds me a lot of
- 9:06Speaker 3: like a plea for purging. Obviously, Colin will appreciate that.
- 9:09Speaker 3: A lot of our listeners will appreciate that. But it
- 9:12Speaker 3: just has like that kind of like similar vibe of
- 9:14Speaker 3: like the music in and of itself stands on its own,
- 9:17Speaker 3: and the music videos just make this like really fun vibe.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Oh that's that's a massive compliment. Thank you. I've I've
- 9:25Speaker 2: heard of them, but I don't don't. I don't think
- 9:27Speaker 2: i've listened.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Oh dude, you gotta you gotta listen their stuff, and
- 9:29Speaker 3: you gotta watch the music videos because there's so much fun.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh right on.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Yeah. I was actually gonna bring up the exact same
- 9:37Speaker 1: point that Mason just brought up. That was very reminiscent
- 9:41Speaker 1: of a plea for purging videos and stuff like that.
- 9:45Speaker 1: But the thing that I want to bring up is
- 9:48Speaker 1: you personally again. You have you have a quality about
- 9:52Speaker 1: you that is intangible. It is if a theoreal almost
- 9:59Speaker 1: to a like you. You have like this real tough guy
- 10:04Speaker 1: kind of kind of looked to you, but you also
- 10:07Speaker 1: have like this really sweet, almost effeminate nature as well,
- 10:10Speaker 1: at least in the music videos. I'm dying to see
- 10:14Speaker 1: you live because I'm sure you have a lot of
- 10:16Speaker 1: the same panache about you. Is that something that you
- 10:19Speaker 1: have decided to design intentionally or is that just you?
- 10:25Speaker 2: That's just me. Yeah, I've always been Excuse me, my
- 10:30Speaker 2: allergies are awful. I've always I've always been like a
- 10:36Speaker 2: pretty extreme like on both ends. Like I grew up
- 10:39Speaker 2: like a choir nerd but I was also a wrestler
- 10:41Speaker 2: and rugby player. He played in the school band, played
- 10:45Speaker 2: the xylophone and percussion, took piano. So it's like, what
- 10:51Speaker 2: was the guy that you graduate with Colin?
- 10:53Speaker 3: That was that was the like violin player that was
- 10:56Speaker 3: also like an all state wrestler.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Scott Stone.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Yeah, Scott Stone, Scott Stone.
- 11:03Speaker 2: That's that's a freaking yeah.
- 11:04Speaker 3: He was both a like all state like violin player
- 11:07Speaker 3: and also he was like an all state wrestler in Collins.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Great.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Wow, And he was totally jacked.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Yeah, so jacked. That's awesome. Yeah, but what's he doing now?
- 11:18Speaker 1: He's a teacher and a wrestling coach.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Now I gotta get him to play in warre on Betty.
- 11:23Speaker 1: At least I have like dude for sure.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be awesome. No, But yeah, so, like like
- 11:33Speaker 2: when I was a kid, I listened to Sarah McLaughlin
- 11:37Speaker 2: and Michael Jackson and then like Nirvana and Corn in
- 11:41Speaker 2: the same day. Yeah, and so like live like with
- 11:44Speaker 2: war On Betty, It's like I'm going absolutely fucking nuts.
- 11:49Speaker 2: But then you know, my hips don't lie like Shakira,
- 11:54Speaker 2: and so I'm doing a whole lot of that.
- 11:57Speaker 1: That's a That's a perfect way to put it, perfect
- 11:59Speaker 1: way to put it. Yeah, I wish I could put
- 12:02Speaker 1: my finger on it more. I just I can't quite
- 12:06Speaker 1: figure out. I just want to watch you more, and
- 12:09Speaker 1: I want to hear you more, and I want to
- 12:12Speaker 1: you have a quality that makes people that I think
- 12:14Speaker 1: makes people want.
- 12:16Speaker 2: To be in your presence. Oh well, thank you appreciate.
- 12:21Speaker 5: Do you get that as Walt Mason, I'm just saying,
- 12:24Speaker 5: like what you're saying is like this is like literally
- 12:28Speaker 5: like Colin's like karaoke playlist, like Shakira and like corn
- 12:33Speaker 5: all in the same playlist like that, That's exactly what
- 12:36Speaker 5: Colin would sing at karaoke.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Just saying that is true, that is true.
- 12:41Speaker 1: In fact, I've done Whitney Houston and and yeah Lincoln
- 12:45Speaker 1: Park in the same night.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, legends. Yeah, see Houston, I want to
- 12:51Speaker 2: dance with somebody like yeah, get out of here.
- 12:55Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then in the end, yeah, yes, get
- 12:59Speaker 3: after you know.
- 13:01Speaker 1: You know, so how did you how did you really
- 13:05Speaker 1: get into creating war On Betty. What's your musical career,
- 13:10Speaker 1: musical journey up to that point.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a spring chicken. So I started I
- 13:18Speaker 2: started music, pursuing music later like as a career. I
- 13:22Speaker 2: was like twenty eight and started doing like acoustics singer
- 13:27Speaker 2: songwriter stuff. And then I was like, oh, I like
- 13:30Speaker 2: I always wanted to do heavy stuff. I just never
- 13:35Speaker 2: I just never did it, you know. I was, I
- 13:38Speaker 2: don't know, like lost in my ship. But I was like, hey,
- 13:41Speaker 2: I'm getting older, like I better start doing this. And
- 13:45Speaker 2: so I started a band at that time. It was
- 13:47Speaker 2: called Warren Betty. And that was because.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Like the director or like like the director actor.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I misread his name. I was like, oh, who's
- 14:02Speaker 2: Who's more Embetti And they're like, you're an idiot, But
- 14:08Speaker 2: I was like.
- 14:08Speaker 1: That's exactly. That was the very first thing I brought
- 14:10Speaker 1: up to Mason for the first time.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was told it kind of is but
- 14:15Speaker 2: not really but yeah, but so yeah, I started that
- 14:19Speaker 2: band and then we changed our name went on tour
- 14:25Speaker 2: with Armor for Sleep and and I was like, oh
- 14:29Speaker 2: my gosh, like you know what's happening. This is awesome.
- 14:31Speaker 2: And then we got off the road and and the
- 14:35Speaker 2: band broke up. And then so I met Nate Navarro.
- 14:40Speaker 2: He was filling in playing drums for Armor and on
- 14:43Speaker 2: that tour, and him and I just started chit chatting
- 14:46Speaker 2: about you know. I was like, dude, I don't know
- 14:49Speaker 2: what to do. I don't know how to revive this band.
- 14:51Speaker 2: I couldn't find members. And he was like, do you
- 14:54Speaker 2: just like do your own thing, Like just do your
- 14:58Speaker 2: own thing and like kind of like, you know, build
- 15:00Speaker 2: it and the rest will come. You know. Was that
- 15:02Speaker 2: Field of Dreams or something?
- 15:04Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 15:05Speaker 2: Yeah, And then he was I would send him some
- 15:08Speaker 2: stuff and he was like, oh, would you mind if
- 15:09Speaker 2: I like worked on it because he's a mixer and producer.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Oh nice. It was like sure, and then it was
- 15:14Speaker 2: like oh once he got his hands on it, then
- 15:19Speaker 2: it was like the World of War on Betty like
- 15:23Speaker 2: became it and I was like, holy shit. And then
- 15:26Speaker 2: he was like all right, man, let's fucking do something
- 15:29Speaker 2: with this. And he's like, we gotta do something with that.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Warren Betty thing. He's like, if we change it, He's like,
- 15:35Speaker 2: like war on Betty, And I was like, where do
- 15:38Speaker 2: I sign? And yeah, so we that's that. You know
- 15:42Speaker 2: that we started this about like three years ago, maybe
- 15:46Speaker 2: even a little longer, but we took about like a
- 15:48Speaker 2: year and a half almost two years to like really
- 15:51Speaker 2: work on all these songs and you know the image
- 15:54Speaker 2: and you know, really create music that we want to
- 15:59Speaker 2: hear that's not being really done by everybody else. It's like,
- 16:04Speaker 2: let's just smash all this stuff together that's heavy and
- 16:07Speaker 2: fun and yeah. So I mean we have like, what
- 16:10Speaker 2: three songs out right now, we have a bunch more
- 16:14Speaker 2: and they all sound different. They're all still really heavy,
- 16:17Speaker 2: but yeah, it's some wild ass shit.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I think. I think what I love the most is
- 16:23Speaker 1: that every tune has palate cleansing moments. Right. If you
- 16:28Speaker 1: listen to whole albums where it's all, you know, roughly
- 16:34Speaker 1: the same tempo, Sure, going one hundred miles a second,
- 16:39Speaker 1: it can be good, right, But a lot of times
- 16:42Speaker 1: there's just not enough palate cleansing in there to help
- 16:45Speaker 1: you feel those big moments and to help you feel
- 16:48Speaker 1: the chaos when you bring it on and you guys
- 16:51Speaker 1: do that so well. The dynamics are incredible. I love
- 16:57Speaker 1: how you'll go from like a jaunty little almost like
- 17:01Speaker 1: like a danceable groove, and then all of a sudden,
- 17:05Speaker 1: you're you're breaking out into something that sounds like the
- 17:08Speaker 1: Chariot where it's it's it's heavy and chaotic and it's
- 17:10Speaker 1: all over the place and and it shows a completely
- 17:14Speaker 1: different mastery of what you want to do, and it
- 17:19Speaker 1: keeps everyone on their toes and it cleanses the palette
- 17:22Speaker 1: and then allows for that next moment to hit so
- 17:24Speaker 1: much harder. So are you the one that kind of
- 17:28Speaker 1: comes up with, like you know, like the different movements
- 17:30Speaker 1: within each song, Like are you coming up with like
- 17:34Speaker 1: the vast majority of everything or is Nate helping out
- 17:36Speaker 1: with a lot of.
- 17:37Speaker 2: That, or is yeah, yeah, It's it's usually built out
- 17:41Speaker 2: of like I'll come up with like like a big idea.
- 17:44Speaker 2: It's usually like my instincts like start it, and I
- 17:47Speaker 2: like a chorus or a verse or things that are repeating,
- 17:52Speaker 2: and then I'll just like I'll send it to Nate
- 17:56Speaker 2: and then I'll be like, let's add a part here,
- 17:59Speaker 2: Let's change that. It's he'll fix up the arrangement and
- 18:02Speaker 2: then he'll be like, hey, change the riff there, or
- 18:04Speaker 2: like vocally he's like, we need to do something with
- 18:08Speaker 2: the chorus here. That's you know, like but like the
- 18:11Speaker 2: song we have a song called black Sheep ironically, iron like,
- 18:16Speaker 2: I mostly do all the guitars and bass on like
- 18:20Speaker 2: most of our songs. That's all neat, Like we changed
- 18:24Speaker 2: it used to be a different song, and he came
- 18:27Speaker 2: up with like more of the lyrics and like the
- 18:28Speaker 2: vocal delivery and all that stuff. So that was it
- 18:31Speaker 2: was really cool, like to see him just be like
- 18:34Speaker 2: a drummer and like producer and mixer and then he's like, oh,
- 18:36Speaker 2: I gotta learn this guitar shit to like you know,
- 18:40Speaker 2: make songs. And then he like sent it to me
- 18:42Speaker 2: and I was like, fuck you dude, Like I've been
- 18:45Speaker 2: doing this since I was in fifth grade and now
- 18:48Speaker 2: you just show up and yeah, rips away. Yeah. It's
- 18:53Speaker 2: it's usually out of like my weird instincts. And then
- 18:55Speaker 2: Nate's like, cool, let's let's break this open. Yeah, yeah, dude,
- 19:02Speaker 2: that's amazing.
- 19:03Speaker 3: So it always ticks me off when you get those
- 19:06Speaker 3: people where it's like I've been working my ass off
- 19:08Speaker 3: for this one thing, and you just like come in
- 19:11Speaker 3: and you're so fucking good at this, and it just
- 19:15Speaker 3: it drives me nuts, Like what doesn't matter, Like what, yeah,
- 19:17Speaker 3: whether it's like music producing, doesn't matter, whatever it is.
- 19:21Speaker 3: And then you just get like that one person that's
- 19:23Speaker 3: just so good at the one thing, then they haven't
- 19:25Speaker 3: been even coming close to working for it the way
- 19:28Speaker 3: you have just drives me nuts. But you know what,
- 19:30Speaker 3: some people are just naturally talented in that way.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed it's like a thing earlier before we started,
- 19:37Speaker 2: like I'm always like working on my scream and sustainability
- 19:41Speaker 2: and different techniques and stuff for live and you know
- 19:44Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I've noticed for some reason with
- 19:48Speaker 2: drummers they can just a lot of them they just
- 19:52Speaker 2: like can sing really easily, or like if people don't
- 19:56Speaker 2: want to scream, like girls can metals amazingly, like they'll
- 20:03Speaker 2: I'll be like, they'll just like mimic like, oh you
- 20:05Speaker 2: listen to that stuff where it's like ah and they
- 20:07Speaker 2: like spit out the craziest scream and I'm like, perfectly,
- 20:14Speaker 2: you know what.
- 20:14Speaker 1: I think.
- 20:14Speaker 2: That's a real estate agent in Orange County and I'm
- 20:17Speaker 2: like you.
- 20:20Speaker 1: I think that's because they've been mimicking the vocal fry
- 20:23Speaker 1: from Dude for Britney Spears all those years. Right, yes, yeah,
- 20:31Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, like, because that's like scre.
- 20:34Speaker 2: What you're talking about. So many of the women here
- 20:37Speaker 2: talk like that. They're like a metal band. Wow, or
- 20:43Speaker 2: just watch you get a little sample screaming metal band.
- 20:48Speaker 1: So I gotta put a little bit of behind it.
- 20:51Speaker 1: And they've got it.
- 20:53Speaker 2: They've got it all.
- 20:54Speaker 4: You're telling me.
- 20:55Speaker 3: The only the only exercise I need to become a
- 20:58Speaker 3: great metale is I just watch enough keeping up with
- 21:02Speaker 3: the Kardashians and they'll be all right.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Yeah, we're desperate Housewives of Orange County talk like a
- 21:07Speaker 2: valley girl and you're and you're there. That's it.
- 21:10Speaker 4: That's that's that's the that's the secret. What that's it.
- 21:15Speaker 2: That is the metal industry secret for unlocking your harsh vocals.
- 21:22Speaker 1: I love it.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Sorry, Chris Lee Beg.
- 21:29Speaker 1: I do like that guy he's going on yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 21:36Speaker 1: I learned how to safely scream like Chris Cornell from him.
- 21:40Speaker 2: So oh right on.
- 21:42Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I I gotta ask though.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Okay, so you're like you're a formal a former wrestler guy, Yeah,
- 21:51Speaker 3: what what is it like for you to.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Get on stage? You're screaming?
- 21:56Speaker 4: Do you wish you could take out, like take out
- 21:58Speaker 4: some of those guys like like what what is it?
- 22:01Speaker 2: What?
- 22:01Speaker 4: What is it for you? Like? What what unlocks for you?
- 22:04Speaker 1: Like?
- 22:06Speaker 4: Is it like things where it's like.
- 22:08Speaker 1: I got a question that goes with that. I've noticed.
- 22:12Speaker 1: I've noticed that a lot of times you're wearing a
- 22:15Speaker 1: fur jacket. Oh yeah, do you wear that on stage?
- 22:19Speaker 1: Is it? Is it like bringing back like having to
- 22:21Speaker 1: like run in the hot wrestling room with the sweat sign?
- 22:27Speaker 2: Man? You know? Dan first response, I have not worn
- 22:32Speaker 2: that on stage yet.
- 22:33Speaker 1: Oh you gotta, you gotta, but.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I lost a lot of water weight shooting that
- 22:39Speaker 2: Bump music video. My god, dude. Yeah yeah yeah, but
- 22:49Speaker 2: you know, so your question is you know we people
- 22:53Speaker 2: on stage?
- 22:54Speaker 1: Because yeah, do you do you get do you get
- 22:56Speaker 1: feelings of of wanting to cause violence a little bit?
- 22:59Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, no, no not at all?
- 23:04Speaker 1: Gotcha.
- 23:04Speaker 2: No. The thing that I love about performing live is
- 23:07Speaker 2: that there's this like certain surrender that happens to me
- 23:13Speaker 2: where I'm like and this could all just completely can
- 23:18Speaker 2: go wrong, like technical difficulties like whatever, right, Yeah, And
- 23:26Speaker 2: for some reason, it's like I have no choice but
- 23:28Speaker 2: to submit to that whole reality. Like I don't have
- 23:32Speaker 2: time to like get in my head and be like,
- 23:34Speaker 2: well maybe I could blah blah blah like where I
- 23:37Speaker 2: do in regular life all the time. I'll steal. There's
- 23:41Speaker 2: something about it, and it's like I am so free.
- 23:46Speaker 2: That's what I love about performing live and with warre
- 23:51Speaker 2: On Betty because of the kind of music that we make,
- 23:53Speaker 2: it's like it's so fun. So to add to that
- 23:58Speaker 2: feeling to play this music live, it is like, yeah, man,
- 24:02Speaker 2: that's that's what I want.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Is there is there ever, like a like contradiction or
- 24:08Speaker 3: like dichotomy that exists between how you want to perform
- 24:13Speaker 3: live versus what the audience is experiencing. Partly because the
- 24:18Speaker 3: audience might be experiencing a potential cop just singing songs,
- 24:25Speaker 3: specifically a seventies cop singing songs, do they ever just
- 24:29Speaker 3: like assume, like, wow, the seventies on the seventies cop
- 24:33Speaker 3: show just shows up, and now we don't know whether
- 24:36Speaker 3: or not we can actually mosh or are we gonna
- 24:38Speaker 3: get arrested?
- 24:42Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 24:42Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's happened a few times.
- 24:46Speaker 4: See, I feel like it was a fair question.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no. When people come to the show, they
- 24:56Speaker 2: know for the most part, they know what they're getting into.
- 25:00Speaker 2: I definitely have surprise people though, you know, like loading
- 25:04Speaker 2: into venues and stuff like getting there early. Like you
- 25:08Speaker 2: get out of the vehicle and I'm like walking across
- 25:11Speaker 2: the parking lot and people are like, what's that?
- 25:15Speaker 1: What is that they know you're in a band at
- 25:17Speaker 1: least right? I mean, like, you can't be mistaken. You're
- 25:21Speaker 1: You're not the kind of individual that he mistake. You
- 25:25Speaker 1: could be undercover. But if this is nineteen seventy three,
- 25:28Speaker 1: it might be different. But yeah, yeah, I think there's
- 25:39Speaker 1: there is something to be said.
- 25:42Speaker 2: That.
- 25:42Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of bands that Mason and
- 25:45Speaker 1: I will go see, and you know, you might be
- 25:47Speaker 1: hanging out at a restaurant near the venue beforehand and
- 25:50Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, that guy looks like he could
- 25:52Speaker 1: be in a band, but I don't know, maybe maybe
- 25:55Speaker 1: not right, maybe he's just a fan whatever. So you
- 26:00Speaker 1: don't necessarily talk to him because you're not entially sure
- 26:02Speaker 1: if they're in a band or not, right, But you
- 26:05Speaker 1: I don't think there's any mistaking it, right. I mean
- 26:09Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be like that guy's in a band, for sure,
- 26:11Speaker 1: if you're anywhere, if you're both like a hundred yards
- 26:14Speaker 1: of a venue, it could be any venue, and they're
- 26:17Speaker 1: gonna say that guy is in a band.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Usually usually I like that non conspicuousness about you. I'm sorry,
- 26:31Speaker 1: the non conspicuousness about you. It's everything's just like laid
- 26:36Speaker 1: on the table obvious. It's amazing.
- 26:39Speaker 2: It's amazing.
- 26:41Speaker 3: I will say one thing I love about Warren Betty
- 26:43Speaker 3: from some of the You know, obviously you guys haven't
- 26:46Speaker 3: released like a ton of music yet, but you know
- 26:50Speaker 3: you're doing this like hardcore heavy music, and there are
- 26:55Speaker 3: these moments of very very too like early two thousands
- 27:02Speaker 3: alternative rock music riffs. Yes that you know that is
- 27:07Speaker 3: so it's so good, like it literally it like brings
- 27:11Speaker 3: me back to like audio slave or something, and it's
- 27:16Speaker 3: so good, and yet you're able to write them in
- 27:19Speaker 3: a way that like actually feels supernatural to like hardcore
- 27:23Speaker 3: music or heavy music, where obviously, like you know, you
- 27:26Speaker 3: guys aren't you're clearly not doing just like alternative rock.
- 27:29Speaker 3: And there's something about that that I find super creative
- 27:34Speaker 3: and very unique, and I don't I don't know if
- 27:36Speaker 3: you have like anything to say about that, but like
- 27:39Speaker 3: that that's like a first impression that I got from
- 27:42Speaker 3: the little music that you guys have out at this point.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Wow, thank you. Yeah, you know, I don't think we've
- 27:54Speaker 2: really spent a lot of time on like let's make
- 27:58Speaker 2: this riff. I think we just like you might be
- 28:03Speaker 2: referring more so to like the song Chicken Bones, Yes,
- 28:06Speaker 2: where it was like I just remember like Rage against
- 28:12Speaker 2: Machine the Born of a Broken Man, that song. I mean,
- 28:19Speaker 2: they do it in so many other songs, but it's
- 28:22Speaker 2: like it's like clean guitar and then it's like here's
- 28:29Speaker 2: the fucking chorus. You step on the distortion pedal and
- 28:34Speaker 2: it's go time. Like that's something that I feel like
- 28:38Speaker 2: got lost a bit over the past, like really, like
- 28:44Speaker 2: I don't know, twelve fifteen years. I mean, I love
- 28:48Speaker 2: like a lot of the music that's been happening, you know, since,
- 28:50Speaker 2: but I was like, oh, just that feel that payoff
- 28:53Speaker 2: of like an explosion and don't do anything crazy, like
- 28:58Speaker 2: let's let that beat drive and like send it home
- 29:01Speaker 2: with like an in your face vocal that's not too
- 29:04Speaker 2: like matthy or you know, like just like yeah, So
- 29:10Speaker 2: I think naturally that those kind of riffs like come about,
- 29:14Speaker 2: and like where I play like these riffs on the guitar,
- 29:18Speaker 2: it's like I'm not doing anything complicated, like really, I'm not.
- 29:22Speaker 2: It just feels like very comfortable. I'm like, oh, could
- 29:26Speaker 2: I play this on acoustic guitar and would it like
- 29:29Speaker 2: ring out? And like would it feel heavy on an
- 29:31Speaker 2: acoustic guitar like that? I don't know. That's that's kind
- 29:35Speaker 2: of how that sense that stuff comes about. I think, Yeah, yeah,
- 29:41Speaker 2: I love that.
- 29:43Speaker 1: What should listeners expect for the upcoming war on Betty Songs?
- 29:48Speaker 1: This back catalog that you have ready to go?
- 29:50Speaker 2: You said, well, man, I don't want to give too
- 29:58Speaker 2: much away, but nothing repeats itself, Like each song is different.
- 30:05Speaker 2: I know a lot of artists say this, but no, like,
- 30:08Speaker 2: for real, each song is totally different. There's always like
- 30:12Speaker 2: a theme to a song. Nate and I we try
- 30:15Speaker 2: to focus on, like what's the identifiable thing about this
- 30:22Speaker 2: song that makes it stand out, you know from any
- 30:26Speaker 2: other like metalcore heavy song. Yeah, Like we have a
- 30:30Speaker 2: song it sounds like if justin Timberlake wrote like a
- 30:35Speaker 2: metal song like nine Inch Nails, Like do we have
- 30:39Speaker 2: a song it's like that, like, but there's also like
- 30:42Speaker 2: some some break there's a breakdown in it that's like
- 30:48Speaker 2: I don't know, very bluesy, heavy, loose like but like
- 30:52Speaker 2: a big open halftime and some screaming, you know, like
- 30:56Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, I mean, we have some stuff that's
- 31:00Speaker 2: like a little industrial. We have things where there's like
- 31:03Speaker 2: acoustic guitars in it, but it's still like, you know,
- 31:05Speaker 2: a big loud band. Yeah that's all I'm gonna say
- 31:08Speaker 2: for now on.
- 31:09Speaker 1: It all right, sweet? Are you doing music videos for
- 31:12Speaker 1: all of them?
- 31:13Speaker 2: We're trying to do as many as we can, like
- 31:15Speaker 2: that's that's our goal. Our our goal is to have
- 31:18Speaker 2: like a fucking rad music video with with each with
- 31:22Speaker 2: each song. So it's like we're you know, we're taking
- 31:25Speaker 2: our time, you know, we're not just you know, like
- 31:31Speaker 2: my favorite bands are my favorite bands because they wrote
- 31:35Speaker 2: good music, yeah you know, not because they posted so frequently,
- 31:39Speaker 2: you know. So it's like we're like, yeah, let's let's
- 31:43Speaker 2: give them something to be excited about for sure that
- 31:46Speaker 2: they can listen to it or watch because we have
- 31:49Speaker 2: like there's people that are like I remember this woman
- 31:52Speaker 2: was like, yo, I don't normally like this music, but
- 31:56Speaker 2: I saw you and I want you to play at
- 31:58Speaker 2: my wedding. It was like the most like normy person
- 32:04Speaker 2: you get, amattin.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Imagine.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, so yeah, I love that.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Have you.
- 32:16Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if you're aware of
- 32:18Speaker 1: this or not. Mason and I we talked to bands
- 32:21Speaker 1: all the time. We you know, we kind of see
- 32:24Speaker 1: numbers and all that stuff, but we don't we don't
- 32:27Speaker 1: care about numbers per se when it comes to views
- 32:30Speaker 1: on YouTube or on spot.
- 32:32Speaker 4: I hope not because we don't have that many, but like.
- 32:37Speaker 1: It's not something that like we focus on. I don't
- 32:40Speaker 1: think we've ever really had a conversation where we've talked
- 32:43Speaker 1: about that. But for a band with only three songs out,
- 32:50Speaker 1: the amount of popularity that you have on the youtubes
- 32:55Speaker 1: at the very least is basically what I would correlate
- 33:01Speaker 1: to a band that's been around for six years, seven years,
- 33:04Speaker 1: eight years and have been, you know, a pretty high
- 33:07Speaker 1: quality band. The fact you only have three songs out
- 33:11Speaker 1: and you're already kind of hitting those numbers tells me
- 33:15Speaker 1: that this is gonna be a lot bigger than I
- 33:18Speaker 1: think maybe you're expecting it to.
- 33:22Speaker 2: M Well, thank you, Yeah, it's you know, I have it.
- 33:29Speaker 2: I have all the confidence in it, you know, And
- 33:32Speaker 2: and so is Neat. And we just focus on what
- 33:34Speaker 2: we can control, and so we can control taking our
- 33:38Speaker 2: time and making the songs as exciting to listen to
- 33:44Speaker 2: as we would want from another band, you know, and
- 33:47Speaker 2: taking the time to make sure that these music videos
- 33:49Speaker 2: look look really cool and fine and like as cheesy
- 33:55Speaker 2: as it sounds, like, it's got to be honest, like
- 33:58Speaker 2: your instincts and like your personality, like it all has
- 34:01Speaker 2: to come through, you know. And you know, yeah, seeing
- 34:08Speaker 2: the the it's easy to get lost in numbers right
- 34:14Speaker 2: right exactly, but like a big thing, you know, social
- 34:18Speaker 2: media is a knife, you know, it's it can be
- 34:21Speaker 2: a great tool and it can also be awful, right
- 34:25Speaker 2: but you know, I am great social media as a
- 34:28Speaker 2: tool in a healthy way. And what I've noticed is
- 34:31Speaker 2: I was like, I don't I don't care about like
- 34:34Speaker 2: the boosts you know for advertising, They've been super beneficial
- 34:38Speaker 2: for a ton of people, but for us, we're like,
- 34:41Speaker 2: let's not do that, like like we really want to
- 34:45Speaker 2: know what's real, so we know like who our people are. Like,
- 34:50Speaker 2: I'd much rather have like thirty people really really like
- 34:54Speaker 2: us than like three hundred thousand people that hate heavy
- 34:58Speaker 2: music and they just sawid ad and skipped because they're
- 35:03Speaker 2: trying to look at something for Sephora, and then we
- 35:07Speaker 2: just wasted all that money, you know. So I seeing
- 35:11Speaker 2: the engagement, like the shares and the comments and the
- 35:15Speaker 2: private messages we've been getting, it's, man, we're nothing but
- 35:20Speaker 2: grateful for it. It's it's pretty cool. And uh yeah, yeah,
- 35:26Speaker 2: Like when you guys reached out, I was like, no shit,
- 35:29Speaker 2: I found out about you guys. It was like twenty
- 35:34Speaker 2: it was the beginning of it was the pandemic. Oh
- 35:37Speaker 2: and yeah, and I've been listening to you guys for
- 35:40Speaker 2: you know, that whole time, and I was like, they
- 35:43Speaker 2: have like all the bands on there that I love.
- 35:47Speaker 2: So I listened to you guys all the time.
- 35:49Speaker 4: Thanks, you only listen for the bands, not for Colin, right.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Yes, the band's in Bason, that's all.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Yeah. So no, it's it's it's been a really exciting
- 36:06Speaker 2: and I would see other word I'm looking for. Yeah,
- 36:08Speaker 2: we're just super grateful and we're having a blast. I
- 36:12Speaker 2: love it.
- 36:13Speaker 1: Yeah, do you you have a tour coming up in November?
- 36:17Speaker 1: I believe with under Undertaking.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Uh, we're we're not going on tour with them, We're just.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Just playing a show. Okay, sounds good. Yeah, those guys
- 36:29Speaker 1: are super excited to meet you. I was talking to
- 36:31Speaker 1: Austin he's a good friend of the show.
- 36:33Speaker 2: And oh, right on, and he's.
- 36:36Speaker 1: I said, hey, war on, Betty, he listened yet He's like,
- 36:39Speaker 1: he's like, I've listened. I don't know about him yet, though.
- 36:42Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? He says, I
- 36:44Speaker 1: don't know. Hopefully they're cool hangs, And I said, well,
- 36:47Speaker 1: with a mustache like that, how can they not be.
- 36:51Speaker 1: So they're excited to meet you.
- 36:52Speaker 3: I know that's gonna flash that badge and make sure
- 36:55Speaker 3: that's cool Hangs.
- 36:56Speaker 1: That's right. So make sure you make sure you tell
- 37:02Speaker 1: them a big high from Colin and Mason once you
- 37:04Speaker 1: once you see them in November.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Oh definitely will definitely. Well, yeah, they're they are rad
- 37:11Speaker 2: as hell. Yeah yeah, I really I really really enjoy
- 37:15Speaker 2: his vocals, Like he gets he gets some really good
- 37:20Speaker 2: distortion and he gets his like real true voice, like
- 37:23Speaker 2: his high pitched voice through and it's like, hm, I love.
- 37:27Speaker 1: That incredibly unique.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and their riffs are disgusting, so so amazing,
- 37:34Speaker 2: and they just they just seem seem like a good
- 37:36Speaker 2: time they are. Yeah.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Yeah, they bring it live too, which which certainly adds
- 37:41Speaker 1: to the total package that is the undertaking.
- 37:45Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're they're good people.
- 37:47Speaker 3: And you know, there's a reason why they got voted
- 37:50Speaker 3: into Furnace Fest for one year, Like I mean, people
- 37:52Speaker 3: like love them enough where they literally got voted into play.
- 37:56Speaker 4: Like yeah, just because people love that so much.
- 37:59Speaker 3: Andfully so, they're just they're a fun band.
- 38:02Speaker 4: They're fun to they're obviously they're good guys.
- 38:05Speaker 2: And they just play an incredible set. Yeah yeah on
- 38:11Speaker 2: YouTube some of their their live sets, and I was
- 38:14Speaker 2: like all right now, yeah yeah.
- 38:17Speaker 1: It's perfect pairing to have to have War on Betty
- 38:19Speaker 1: with them.
- 38:19Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. I hopefully I think
- 38:22Speaker 2: it's going to be a wild as time for sure.
- 38:25Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys can actually you know, like make a
- 38:27Speaker 1: tour or.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Something like that out of it. That'll be great.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'd be a it'd be a blast. I
- 38:33Speaker 1: would I would travel pretty long distances to go see that.
- 38:36Speaker 1: So all right, I think it's time for your top
- 38:39Speaker 1: five most influential albums. Are you ready?
- 38:45Speaker 2: Dang?
- 38:46Speaker 1: You can start?
- 38:47Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go with Okay, Chevelle. Hell, oh
- 38:52Speaker 2: my gosh, what is it called? It's the one with
- 38:55Speaker 2: the red was the break out of it?
- 38:59Speaker 1: Why is it not?
- 39:00Speaker 4: So?
- 39:00Speaker 1: Well? Wow?
- 39:01Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever gotten a Chevelle calling. I'll
- 39:03Speaker 3: be honest, we have not.
- 39:08Speaker 2: Damn what happens next or something?
- 39:10Speaker 1: Wonder what's next? That's it?
- 39:12Speaker 2: Wonder what's next? Wow? Chevell record? Yeah, the the heavy,
- 39:19Speaker 2: low tuning guitars. I mean I had heard of like
- 39:22Speaker 2: corn before them. Yeah, and uh but just like his
- 39:27Speaker 2: his scream, Like the way the mix of that album
- 39:31Speaker 2: and the melodies and the dynamics, I was just like,
- 39:36Speaker 2: holy shit, that changed some stuff in me for sure.
- 39:41Speaker 1: I think that's easily got one of the Chevelle themselves
- 39:45Speaker 1: have one of my all time favorite guitar tones. I
- 39:48Speaker 1: don't know what it is that they're doing, but that
- 39:51Speaker 1: tone is instantly recognizable. Oh yeah, so crunchy and delicious.
- 39:57Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's the way it holds the pick too.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure I wouldn't doubt.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, shit. I mean, I'm so bad with album names.
- 40:08Speaker 1: That's okay, Mason. Mason and I honestly are pretty bad
- 40:11Speaker 1: at it as well.
- 40:12Speaker 2: So okay, okay, I guess The Fiance the Chariot that.
- 40:20Speaker 4: That's an album name that we're not bad at.
- 40:22Speaker 2: I'll just be on.
- 40:22Speaker 1: We are pretty good at that one.
- 40:24Speaker 2: We nailed that one.
- 40:25Speaker 4: We got that one.
- 40:27Speaker 1: We're huge fans.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're They're They're Them and Norma Jean are
- 40:32Speaker 2: my favorite heavy bands.
- 40:34Speaker 3: So that being said, I did just listen to The
- 40:39Speaker 3: Fiance in its entirety last week. I feel, you know,
- 40:44Speaker 3: it's one of those albums where literally, what's funny is
- 40:50Speaker 3: I think, what is it? Is it your third favorite
- 40:52Speaker 3: Chariot album Coulen or fourth?
- 40:54Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 40:55Speaker 1: Fourth?
- 40:55Speaker 2: Actually yeah?
- 40:56Speaker 4: And I remember, like Colin and I have this debate
- 40:58Speaker 4: all the time.
- 40:59Speaker 3: I I think it might be my third at least
- 41:03Speaker 3: probably my second maybe, and and I remember thinking to
- 41:08Speaker 3: myself like, yeah, it's still probably my second or.
- 41:10Speaker 4: Third, knowing that for Colin for sure it's his fourth.
- 41:14Speaker 3: And I remember thinking to myself as I'm listening to it, damn,
- 41:18Speaker 3: Colin is wrong.
- 41:21Speaker 2: And I felt so vindicated by it. I loved it.
- 41:23Speaker 4: I was just like, I think Colin's wrong here.
- 41:26Speaker 2: I just think it's so good. It's so good, So why.
- 41:33Speaker 1: Why why the Fiance for You? Why is that one
- 41:35Speaker 1: of those super influential records.
- 41:37Speaker 2: Okay, So I was like a weird kid. I mean
- 41:39Speaker 2: I'm a weird adult now, but I never went to
- 41:42Speaker 2: shows growing up. I did like local, I'd go to
- 41:44Speaker 2: like see like local shows like friends, bands and stuff,
- 41:48Speaker 2: but like in my mind, it just like wasn't an
- 41:50Speaker 2: It was such a luxury or like go to a concert.
- 41:56Speaker 2: So weird. So that my friends listen to the Chariot
- 42:02Speaker 2: and they were like, Yo, we're gonna go see this band.
- 42:05Speaker 2: You should come with, And I was like all right,
- 42:08Speaker 2: So I listened to it and I was like instantly
- 42:10Speaker 2: like it grabbed me. And then I saw them live
- 42:13Speaker 2: it was them Norma jean A Life Once Lost, and
- 42:18Speaker 2: then Handshake for Murder Holy was my first like real
- 42:22Speaker 2: heavy show I.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Went to, Yeah you were Baptized right away.
- 42:28Speaker 2: It's like like it literally changed, it literally changed me.
- 42:32Speaker 2: And Yeah, when I saw the Chariot, I was like, okay,
- 42:36Speaker 2: like this is music that I like, Like I wanted
- 42:43Speaker 2: to be in the Chariot, so bad, so bad.
- 42:48Speaker 1: Yeah, judging by our conversations with members of the Chariot,
- 42:52Speaker 1: it sounds like it actually probably could have been a possibility.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, the story with like Casey Woolf. Yeah, they
- 43:00Speaker 2: just like showed up on a college campus or something.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Josh was like ul a base or something or like
- 43:06Speaker 2: pretty much that.
- 43:08Speaker 1: He was psychotic. Psychotic. Yeah, I love that though. That's
- 43:12Speaker 1: that's like the definition of like d I y oh yeah,
- 43:16Speaker 1: and just like trusting other people's instincts, you know, totally.
- 43:22Speaker 1: That's amazing.
- 43:23Speaker 2: All right.
- 43:24Speaker 4: So number three influence album.
- 43:27Speaker 2: I believe the name of the album was Middle of
- 43:29Speaker 2: Nowhere and it's Hanson.
- 43:31Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like like the boy pop band.
- 43:36Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I remember I was on a I was
- 43:41Speaker 2: on a road trip with my family and that was
- 43:45Speaker 2: like one of my first albums I bought. It was
- 43:48Speaker 2: like Hanson and then uh Tragic Kingdom No Doubt.
- 43:51Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah it's a killer record too.
- 43:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 43:57Speaker 1: I'm glad that you said Hanson because everyone on here
- 43:59Speaker 1: wants to be cool and.
- 44:01Speaker 2: They wanna they want to say some heavy.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to say some heavy or something like
- 44:06Speaker 1: super artsy fartsy and stuff like that. But like if
- 44:09Speaker 1: I'm being truly honest. My most influential album because it
- 44:14Speaker 1: was the first album I ever got was Aaron's Party,
- 44:16Speaker 1: Come Get It by Aaron Carter.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, like.
- 44:22Speaker 1: That was my intro to music. So like, people should
- 44:25Speaker 1: be more honest on here.
- 44:26Speaker 2: I think we should.
- 44:28Speaker 1: We should we should force that, we should force our
- 44:30Speaker 1: guests from now on, Mason to say what their first
- 44:33Speaker 1: album they ever got was.
- 44:35Speaker 4: I agree.
- 44:36Speaker 1: I mean, no one, no one's No one's gonna look
- 44:38Speaker 1: as cool if if they have to say Aaron's Party,
- 44:41Speaker 1: Come Get It by Aaron Carter.
- 44:42Speaker 4: You know, Millennium by Backstreet Boys.
- 44:47Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, that's a bit, that's a lot. Great.
- 44:50Speaker 2: Hell Okay, here's the thing. All right, you know, all
- 44:53Speaker 2: growing up, everyone was like you look at the Backstreet.
- 44:55Speaker 1: Boys, like, yeah, they're fucking amazing.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Listen, I've been working in bars my whole adult life, Dude,
- 45:04Speaker 2: you've been bouncing. Come on, like like cover bands will
- 45:08Speaker 2: play the Backstreet Boys. All that are in that are
- 45:11Speaker 2: millennials and x'es are like you all I ever wanted,
- 45:17Speaker 2: Like they're in, but they're all in. They're all in.
- 45:22Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they're they're over they're overpowering all the girls.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, so that's what I'm talking about.
- 45:30Speaker 3: Yeah, that never makes nothing makes you drop your badge
- 45:35Speaker 3: more than Backstreet Boys, right oh?
- 45:37Speaker 2: Yes?
- 45:39Speaker 1: And his bands.
- 45:40Speaker 2: Hey, let's see, what's another one? Michael Jackson?
- 45:47Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which which Michael Jackson record? I'm guessing bad?
- 45:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love yeah bad? Which one was
- 45:59Speaker 2: thriller on?
- 46:00Speaker 1: Thriller?
- 46:01Speaker 2: Thriller? Right?
- 46:02Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
- 46:04Speaker 2: Yeah man? That he Yeah. When I was like when
- 46:08Speaker 2: I was a little kid, I would dress up as
- 46:10Speaker 2: him and I stand on my chair place.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Man, did you have the glove?
- 46:16Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I had a glove I had. I had
- 46:19Speaker 2: like a glittery glove too. My friend's mom knew that
- 46:23Speaker 2: I liked Michael Jackson, and so she gave it to
- 46:26Speaker 2: me for a birthday present. But I would set the
- 46:28Speaker 2: like a fan on and be playing his music, and
- 46:32Speaker 2: I'd have a shirt it was open so would blow
- 46:35Speaker 2: like the music videos.
- 46:38Speaker 4: Was your friend's mom Stacy's mom?
- 46:41Speaker 3: Oh why does she know this about you?
- 46:46Speaker 1: She does sound pretty hot. I'm not gonna lie.
- 46:49Speaker 2: I think she actually was kind of hot.
- 46:54Speaker 1: He thinks he knows, he knows.
- 46:56Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she was a good looking woman.
- 47:00Speaker 4: We've got word for those women.
- 47:01Speaker 1: Hey, don't dead name her here?
- 47:03Speaker 2: Now?
- 47:03Speaker 1: What's what? What? What's what? What's her at?
- 47:06Speaker 2: What's her name?
- 47:07Speaker 1: Yeah? What's her what's her name?
- 47:09Speaker 2: I don't know her first name? But uh, missus Carlyle, dude,
- 47:14Speaker 2: Drew Purcell, sorry, dude.
- 47:18Speaker 4: Missus Percell. Hell yeah, shout out to missus Purcelle.
- 47:23Speaker 2: Thanks for the glove.
- 47:25Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Parcel, I love you.
- 47:30Speaker 2: There you go love it.
- 47:33Speaker 1: Okay. So, so a Michael Jackson record, specifically.
- 47:38Speaker 2: One right, thriller bad? Let's see what is that? Three? Four?
- 47:44Speaker 1: That's four?
- 47:45Speaker 2: That's four? Save you one more?
- 47:49Speaker 1: One more?
- 47:50Speaker 2: What a moss shocks, dude?
- 48:06Speaker 3: And the way that you look when you put your
- 48:10Speaker 3: like hand on your chin, you look like you have
- 48:13Speaker 3: already earned a pH.
- 48:14Speaker 2: This is so tough. Like as far as influence, it's good,
- 48:20Speaker 2: Norma Jean, Yeah, which one? Which one? Redeemer? Oh really
- 48:26Speaker 2: gott yeah call good call. Yeah.
- 48:30Speaker 1: I would have been right about the same time that
- 48:31Speaker 1: Fiance came.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Out, right year before Redeemer came out year before, yeah,
- 48:38Speaker 2: probably the same year.
- 48:41Speaker 4: Six, and then Fiance came out two thousand and seven.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Yeah, ship, okay, So they would have been that that
- 48:47Speaker 1: that first show that you were.
- 48:49Speaker 2: Talking about that's it exactly?
- 48:52Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep, jeez, what a what a formative?
- 48:57Speaker 2: What a formativeness?
- 48:59Speaker 1: Just imagine you never went to that show?
- 49:04Speaker 2: Assure you that?
- 49:05Speaker 1: Yeah, who are you without that show?
- 49:09Speaker 2: That is so insane to think about. Yeah, even if
- 49:15Speaker 2: A continues on with Warren Bettys, just like what that
- 49:19Speaker 2: music did for me and provided for me on so
- 49:22Speaker 2: many levels. Holy ship, Yeah, yeah, the Chariot and Norman
- 49:29Speaker 2: Jean got you know you hear this all the time.
- 49:31Speaker 2: Man it it fucking it got me through some some
- 49:35Speaker 2: ship and on a deep level, and it also brought
- 49:38Speaker 2: me incredible joy. Still it still does, still.
- 49:42Speaker 4: Does without those albums, I probably hate culin yeah.
- 49:49Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and vice versa.
- 49:52Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys had that music then.
- 49:55Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, that's what brought us again.
- 49:57Speaker 2: I thank god, or we would have each other. So yeah,
- 50:03Speaker 2: that's right. I mean I kind of still do, but
- 50:06Speaker 2: I do too.
- 50:09Speaker 1: If I could jump on the screen right now and
- 50:11Speaker 1: slit your throat, I might next time, next time, next
- 50:15Speaker 1: time we sleep together? All right? All right? What would
- 50:21Speaker 1: you like to plug? Do you have? Do you have
- 50:24Speaker 1: an album coming out? An EP? Are you looking at
- 50:26Speaker 1: that down the road?
- 50:27Speaker 2: A no, no, no album yet. We're gonna keep releasing
- 50:31Speaker 2: some singles like every couple of months month, you know.
- 50:34Speaker 2: Hell yeah, we have a song coming out on the
- 50:37Speaker 2: twenty fourth, so this Friday, well, whenever this airs whatever,
- 50:42Speaker 2: it'll be out the twenty fourth, and then we'll have
- 50:44Speaker 2: a music video for it for it out on Halloween.
- 50:48Speaker 2: That's what we're aiming for. So the song is called
- 50:51Speaker 2: slumber Party. And yeah, we're gonna be playing a show
- 50:56Speaker 2: with the undertaking hell yeah program Skate Shop Fullerton November ninth,
- 51:02Speaker 2: come through. We will also be playing in Hollywood, I said,
- 51:09Speaker 2: November twenty first at the Bar Sinister And yeah, those
- 51:16Speaker 2: are the immediate things, but there's definitely a lot more
- 51:19Speaker 2: to come.
- 51:20Speaker 3: I love the fact that their show is still happening
- 51:23Speaker 3: at skate skate places, like that's cool.
- 51:26Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. It's so rad, it's so rad.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Yeah, those are two two worlds that have always existed
- 51:37Speaker 1: together and they should always continue to do.
- 51:40Speaker 3: We can't let we can't like the we can't let
- 51:42Speaker 3: those exist as like museums like those have to like
- 51:45Speaker 3: keep existing as like a real.
- 51:47Speaker 2: Thing that's happening in real time.
- 51:49Speaker 3: That can't be a thing that we talk about just
- 51:51Speaker 3: like simply a new museum.
- 51:53Speaker 2: That's right, I agree, I agreed.
- 51:56Speaker 1: No bygone eras here? All right, awesome? Anything else you'd
- 51:59Speaker 1: like to play?
- 52:02Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean this isn't probably gonna happen until
- 52:05Speaker 2: like January. But we're gonna do the lobster batch. What's
- 52:10Speaker 2: that here in Orange County? Yeah, Well it's like we
- 52:14Speaker 2: they release like, hey, the city the City of Coasta,
- 52:18Speaker 2: Mesa will release like a bunch of lobsters and like
- 52:21Speaker 2: home depots and drug stores and yeah, and so you
- 52:26Speaker 2: gotta go, you gotta go catch them, and you have
- 52:30Speaker 2: to like dress them up, you know, as Disney characters
- 52:34Speaker 2: and then set them back into the ocean and call
- 52:38Speaker 2: and then you call a relative you haven't seen in
- 52:42Speaker 2: a while, and and that's the whole point of it.
- 52:48Speaker 1: I love it. Okay.
- 52:49Speaker 4: So there there's two.
- 52:51Speaker 3: It feels like it's like hinged on two things. So
- 52:53Speaker 3: Disney character and relative. So for you, like, what what's
- 52:57Speaker 3: your preferred Disney.
- 52:58Speaker 4: Character that you're gonna dress up this lobster as?
- 53:01Speaker 3: And what's who's the long last relative you're gonna call
- 53:04Speaker 3: for the first time in a while.
- 53:06Speaker 2: I'll probably a dress up this this lot. You know, lobster.
- 53:10Speaker 4: I find is you can't do Sebastian from uh.
- 53:15Speaker 1: Because he's a crab.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Yeah he's Yeah.
- 53:19Speaker 4: It feels it feels a little too on the nose
- 53:21Speaker 4: for that guy.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it's a complete different species, no big deal.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of close though too close. It's a crustacean. Yeah,
- 53:31Speaker 2: I can't do one of those.
- 53:36Speaker 3: So what So what's the episode? I love this Simba, Like,
- 53:39Speaker 3: are you gonna dressed up as Simba?
- 53:41Speaker 2: Like I was just gonna do it as Ursula? But
- 53:44Speaker 2: I mean, I know I could, I could, I could
- 53:47Speaker 2: change it to Simba. La is fantastic. I don't know.
- 53:50Speaker 2: I like to do things on the spot.
- 53:52Speaker 1: She's a queen. I like. I like Ursula, you know,
- 53:56Speaker 1: she's a dog. I love like the community orientedness of this.
- 54:00Speaker 1: You know, it feels very feels very unique. Every every
- 54:05Speaker 1: town has like what feels like the exact same thing
- 54:09Speaker 1: going on. They're like, oh, for Turkey Day, five K
- 54:12Speaker 1: and let's let's have a I don't know, a dance
- 54:18Speaker 1: down on the main street. But like this is like
- 54:21Speaker 1: this is actually happening.
- 54:24Speaker 2: Yeah, this really gets everyone out of their houses. Yeah.
- 54:27Speaker 3: Well, and also contacting a relative that you haven't maybe
- 54:30Speaker 3: spoken to in a while that.
- 54:32Speaker 2: You probably should right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah?
- 54:36Speaker 3: So who is that for you? I mean, it looks
- 54:38Speaker 3: like you just got out of prison. So who's the
- 54:40Speaker 3: person that you need to talk to? Probably Gus Gus
- 54:48Speaker 3: from from Breaking Bad.
- 54:50Speaker 2: No, No, Gus is a he's an uncle of mine.
- 54:54Speaker 3: Oh oh wait, we probably shouldn't talk much more about
- 54:57Speaker 3: Gus if he's an uncle.
- 55:00Speaker 2: People like that, all right.
- 55:02Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you know, we'll just keep it at that.
- 55:04Speaker 2: Gus. You just need to talk to Gus. We got it.
- 55:08Speaker 3: I'm not saying much more because i'd like to I
- 55:12Speaker 3: value my life enough to not talk more about Gus.
- 55:15Speaker 1: I think you should instead maybe reach out to Missus Purcell.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think.
- 55:26Speaker 3: She's got a number. By the way, I'm just saying,
- 55:28Speaker 3: like I can give you the number.
- 55:30Speaker 1: You should be like I have. I have a diamond
- 55:33Speaker 1: and crusted glove that I would like for you to
- 55:36Speaker 1: be read.
- 55:38Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just saying, we're just saying, like, you know,
- 55:40Speaker 3: she's you know, into you know, into that kind of thing.
- 55:44Speaker 2: You know. I don't know, like I don't know where
- 55:46Speaker 2: she's at right now, you know.
- 55:48Speaker 1: Healthy. Yeah, but she you could make her a family member,
- 55:53Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 55:56Speaker 3: You know, I thought she's I thought she saw that
- 55:59Speaker 3: she liked the way I'm out her lawn, But I
- 56:01Speaker 3: don't know.
- 56:06Speaker 1: Yeah, just god, I cannot wait to see your pictures
- 56:12Speaker 1: of Lobster Bash. It's it sounds like a fun time.
- 56:15Speaker 2: It really is.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Yeah, have you done it before?
- 56:19Speaker 2: No? No, but this is the year I'm going to nice.
- 56:25Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta start somewhere, right.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Maybe this is one of the like maybe this is
- 56:29Speaker 1: like one of those like catalyst moments in your life,
- 56:32Speaker 1: kind of like the Chariot Norman Jean Show, and like
- 56:35Speaker 1: your life is going to completely change because you participated
- 56:37Speaker 1: in the lobsters Bash this year.
- 56:41Speaker 2: Man, I mean that would that would be I don't
- 56:44Speaker 2: know if if it'll be at that that scale, but hopefully, yeah, yeah, hopefully.
- 56:50Speaker 1: The beautiful thing about life is we never know what
- 56:53Speaker 1: next moment that's going to be, So it could be
- 56:55Speaker 1: it could be the Lobster Bash.
- 56:57Speaker 4: And the thing the beautiful thing about Lobster Bash is
- 57:00Speaker 4: could very turn into a very easily could turn into
- 57:02Speaker 4: lopster bisk.
- 57:05Speaker 1: That's right, and that is the ideal soup.
- 57:08Speaker 2: If you ask me. Yeah, I mean we we shouldn't
- 57:15Speaker 2: because we're setting these these lopsters free.
- 57:18Speaker 1: But but then you get there, they're easy. Then you
- 57:22Speaker 1: just go get one of their captive friends down at
- 57:25Speaker 1: the costco and now you're now it's full circle.
- 57:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the circle of life, the circle of life.
- 57:33Speaker 4: It's way more human through their head rather than boil them.
- 57:37Speaker 2: But just by the way, just so you.
- 57:39Speaker 1: Know, that's also a Disney reference. So I mean you
- 57:41Speaker 1: could really make that work.
- 57:45Speaker 2: Circle of that.
- 57:49Speaker 1: Yeah, it could work, It could work. Maybe maybe it
- 57:52Speaker 1: does need to be Simba.
- 57:58Speaker 3: By the way, if he ever needs a fetto, we've
- 58:01Speaker 3: got a guy for you, just saying, really, really, we're
- 58:06Speaker 3: really trying to make it happen, just trying.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to get on somebody's record
- 58:10Speaker 1: at some point.
- 58:11Speaker 2: So so if you're in.
- 58:15Speaker 4: You ever see a falsetto, you know who you talked.
- 58:17Speaker 1: To, that's not a falsetto, it's it's it's my real voice.
- 58:21Speaker 2: So dude, let's get you on the track.
- 58:24Speaker 4: Dude, we need to make it happen.
- 58:27Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, for real. But I'm not even kidding.
- 58:30Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding.
- 58:32Speaker 1: I'm not kidding either.
- 58:34Speaker 2: Be fun, it's making it happens.
- 58:36Speaker 1: Happen, all right, dude, it's been a lot of fun.
- 58:39Speaker 1: Thank you keating or ketting, sorry not keating.
- 58:41Speaker 2: Oh you're good, You're good. No, thank you guys so
- 58:44Speaker 2: much again for having me again. I've been a fan
- 58:46Speaker 2: of the show for the past five years now, and
- 58:49Speaker 2: it's the thrilled I could be on. I appreciate all
- 58:52Speaker 2: the support, dude.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Thank you for making great music. Keep making it and
- 58:57Speaker 1: we'll be listening and we'll be we'll be pushing it hard.
- 59:00Speaker 2: Hell yeah, appreciate it. Guys.
- 59:03Speaker 1: I'd be playing tut last night.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Don't try to say um don wow