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Jags Drive Time: Monday, November 19 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you don't talk what Jack Warris? Did you go?
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time right? And sex steps that John says it.
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Speaker 1: Actually Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. We have to
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Speaker 1: be able to get first downs and close the game out.
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Speaker 1: And um, you know, if you just have one first
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Speaker 1: down in any of those drives, you got a chance
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Speaker 1: to win that football game, and we weren't able to
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Speaker 1: do it. Good morning, Welcome to Jack's Drive Time, presented
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Speaker 1: by our friends at Jets Home Loans Monday, following an
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Speaker 1: epic loss Jaguars blowing a sixteen to nothing lead, and
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Speaker 1: there are plenty of storylines for us to talk about
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Speaker 1: this morning. Obviously, the quarterback will be a big part
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Speaker 1: of that, and we'll dive into that first though. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: Good morning. Are you We're okay? We'll get through. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you keep saying that, you know, I mean, you get up,
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Speaker 1: it comes up. Yeah, gotta say something, you gotta say something. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: But no, I don't. I don't even mean it like that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just twenty five years of doing this.
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Speaker 1: If you ride every low down, I mean, how do
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Speaker 1: you get back up the next day? Right? I mean,
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Speaker 1: as I'm watching that unfold yesterday. I'm thinking, well, this
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Speaker 1: ought to be a good show tomorrow morning, right, Uh.
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Speaker 1: Plenty to talk about before we do that, though, However, um,
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Speaker 1: like it on Monday's at least not the last six weeks.
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Speaker 1: But who is your Exfinity Player of the Game? I
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Speaker 1: expect Jalen to run away with this one, but Leonard
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Speaker 1: had a day, Josh Lamba kicked three field goals. Maybe
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Speaker 1: of our drive time poll on Twitter, and the good
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Speaker 1: folks at Exfinity want to know is there a prize
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Speaker 1: for that poll? Like? Does somebody win? I don't want
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Speaker 1: to influence the vote if there's a prize, but if
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Speaker 1: it's not Jalen ramscent, I know what we're doing, all right.
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Speaker 1: So let's because Jalen is a big thing one. So
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Speaker 1: let's lead off with it. Shelley, Yes, Jalen Ramsey big
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Speaker 1: thing one. After an incredible performance from him against the Stelers.
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Speaker 1: It's disappointing that we're talking about a loss, but two
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Speaker 1: interceptions covering Antonio Brown one of the best receivers in
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Speaker 1: the league almost the entire game. A J Boy had
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Speaker 1: some fine words to say about him after the game
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Speaker 1: and about the defensive performance as a whole. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: told him, you know, it's it's more of a mental thing. Um.
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Speaker 1: You know, we we threw our egos to the side.
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Speaker 1: We knew we wasn't doing what we needed to do
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Speaker 1: as a defense, and especially in the back end. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're where number one passed defense, but we're busting plays.
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Speaker 1: And I just told him, like, I'm out here fine
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Speaker 1: for y'all. And we we played together as a group.
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Speaker 1: We did a lot of good things out there, and
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Speaker 1: you know, we just can't let that last job just hurt,
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Speaker 1: you know, hurt our confidence and everything. So what a
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Speaker 1: week for the All Pro corner last week, I said,
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Speaker 1: and I believe it his worst game as a pro
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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, uh forty five games in now um this
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Speaker 1: week maybe his best. Eight tackles, both interceptions were traumatic,
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Speaker 1: three passes defense um mix in. How good he was
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Speaker 1: on Thursday when he met with the media, how dialed
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Speaker 1: and he was, how candid he was. There were times
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Speaker 1: when Jalen talks and he's just talking um. But this week,
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Speaker 1: when he stood outside of Daily's place and talked to
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Speaker 1: the media, he said something and then the Adam Schefter
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Speaker 1: tweet right before the game began, the Jaguars rebuttal of that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a Jalen Ramsey intensive week, and
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Speaker 1: then he came out and played like that. I thought
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Speaker 1: he would play well because he's too talented that when
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Speaker 1: he is completely focused and dialed in, you can't imagine
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Speaker 1: him not playing well. Uh. I didn't think he would
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Speaker 1: play that well. That was a performance that I can
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Speaker 1: think last night, you know, as I was driving home,
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Speaker 1: what's too bad as they lost? Because it should have
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Speaker 1: been a performance where, you know, as people haven't walked
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Speaker 1: the hallways, but it should have been a performance where
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Speaker 1: there's a picture on the wall with a plaque underneath
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Speaker 1: it of Jalen Ramsey's two interceptions against Pittsburgh with a
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Speaker 1: squad uneath. I mean there's one for Fred from the
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Speaker 1: ninety or from the two things. That's not a big deal,
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Speaker 1: not any base thinking about. But it should have been
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Speaker 1: that kind of game where you looked back on it
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Speaker 1: in fifteen years when we're bright, how you doing? Um?
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Speaker 1: You know, Uh, it should have been that sort of
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Speaker 1: memory for this franchise, and it was. I tell what
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Speaker 1: kind of a game it was. In a year in
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Speaker 1: which he had not played as consistently as he did
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Speaker 1: in his first All Pro season, that game got him
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Speaker 1: back to All Pro. I mean, you could have easily
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Speaker 1: envisioned him sliding out of first team All Pro on
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Speaker 1: a losing football team, and then yesterday he went and
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Speaker 1: did that with the context of the worst game he'd
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Speaker 1: ever played in Indianapolis to the best game he ever
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Speaker 1: played a week later, and everything that happened in between
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Speaker 1: first team All Pro again, not that he wasn't sure
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Speaker 1: a he might be a player, but you know how
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Speaker 1: it goes. But you've got to make some impact in
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Speaker 1: this day and age. You got to have some highlight.
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Speaker 1: You gotta get the voters coming to you. And again
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Speaker 1: it's not this is not whatever the it's really important,
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Speaker 1: but it's too bad they lost. Had they won, he's
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Speaker 1: talking to Dion Sanders on Prime Time List, I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's the sort of night it would have been. It
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say the season, it's no big deal. I get it.
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Speaker 1: The seasons a disaster, but in the context of that game,
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Speaker 1: that's what it should have been. You know, I forgot
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Speaker 1: one important part of the week because there was so
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Speaker 1: much Janlan. It was his tweet early in the week.
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Speaker 1: But you're all gonna miss me when I'm gone. So
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Speaker 1: I mean just the ups and downs of the entire weekend.
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Speaker 1: And if they had talked about trading him in the
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Speaker 1: off season, you might have understood. But you don't trade that.
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Speaker 1: It was he he cemented the fact that Jalen Ramsey
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Speaker 1: is going to be in Jacksonville for a very long time. Yeah, whatever,
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Speaker 1: And he does bring distraction, he does bring baggage whatever
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Speaker 1: it is. Uh. In in some cases it's worth carrying
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Speaker 1: the heavy suitcase. Well yeah, look, he's a great player,
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Speaker 1: but a lot like Deon Sanders. And you know what
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Speaker 1: people were asking me earlier this week with the check
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Speaker 1: wars ever trade Ramsey. I reminded them that Deon Sanders
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Speaker 1: played in Atlanta, Dallas, San Francisco, and Baltimore, the Great Corner,
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Speaker 1: the most anniversary all time team guy right, didn't play
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Speaker 1: in one place because sometimes these diva corners, right, they
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Speaker 1: were out there, welcome, right. But performances like that are
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Speaker 1: so impressive, so incredible that you can't imagine the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: trading one of the best players in their history and
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Speaker 1: saying that in his third year, says do I mean
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Speaker 1: unless you disagree with that and want to argue about it. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean, That's what I'm saying is you can't. And
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Speaker 1: I don't you know, when you hear reports like that,
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Speaker 1: you can break down. You never know what the person
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Speaker 1: is hearing. But the way it was written, it was
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Speaker 1: executives from other teams saying that they believed that this
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Speaker 1: was likely. It did not sigh Jaguars sources saying we
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Speaker 1: want to trade Jalen Ramsey, And therein lies a big
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Speaker 1: difference often in these stories. I don't you know, I
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Speaker 1: have no idea what the future will brain. I think
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of moves, uh in the
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Speaker 1: off season, some that surprised people, but I I'm with you,
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Speaker 1: I can't see that being one of them. But it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be some major stuff, so we'll say we can go.
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Speaker 1: You could have made the case to me that perhaps
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Speaker 1: this is you know, this is something that could happen today.
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Speaker 1: You can't seem insane to do. Jaylen, as I mentioned
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Speaker 1: on Thursday, was outstanding with the media. I mean as
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Speaker 1: good as he's been, he's pretty good in the post game.
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Speaker 1: He needs to not have this be a one off,
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Speaker 1: meaning there's two bodies of work in the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks right now, there's the Indianapolis game and there's
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Speaker 1: the UH Steelers. Yeah, so what are you do in Buffalo?
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Speaker 1: You can't go back to being Indianapolis, which I don't
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Speaker 1: think he will, but he needs not to. All Right,
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Speaker 1: Before we move on, let's see what Jalen Ramsey had
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Speaker 1: to say about this locker room the next six weeks.
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Speaker 1: You need a little frustration though, Um, if if people
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Speaker 1: are in here and they, you know, content, not saying
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Speaker 1: anybody is, but if if you know people are content
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Speaker 1: with losing and um, things not going right, then that's
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Speaker 1: not the type of you know, guys you want on
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Speaker 1: the team. That's not the type of team environment you
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Speaker 1: don't want to have. So you need you need people
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Speaker 1: a little piste off when they come in in the build,
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Speaker 1: when they come in ne facility, when they signed the practice,
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Speaker 1: and when they're signed to play. You need people are
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Speaker 1: a little piste off in a little you know, chick
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Speaker 1: on that shoulder, you know. And John you mentioned that
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Speaker 1: he needs to play like he did yesterday over the
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Speaker 1: final six games. Absolutely, well that's a little unrealistic, but
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Speaker 1: with that right focus on that end of the skin.
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Speaker 1: But he also needs to talk like that because if
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be here long term, he's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: go to guy. He's going to be a face of
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Speaker 1: the franchise, and those guys need to communicate. And there
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Speaker 1: are times where he says, y'all hype who you're gonna
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Speaker 1: want to hype, right, and we kind of have to
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Speaker 1: guess what he's talking about, like we did Seattle last year,
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Speaker 1: and then he stands there and says, you know, we're
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Speaker 1: piste off, and you've gotta have guys who are piste
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Speaker 1: off about this otherwise you don't need those guys in
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Speaker 1: the locker room. He was calm, reflective, introspective. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was terrific. He was everything you want to pay
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Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game yesterday. Yet it's
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Speaker 1: sometimes easy to forget that these guys are human beings.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're not on he's young and and and
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Speaker 1: they're young human beings or something. The other day and
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Speaker 1: I'd sort of forgotten he's a year younger than his
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Speaker 1: draft class even so, Uh, maturity and leadership, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say maturity, but being wanting to step into
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Speaker 1: that difficult spokesman role seventeen times a year. Uh is
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Speaker 1: not always something that people want to do at the
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Speaker 1: beginning of their career. Sometimes you have to grow into right.
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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, he's more edgy obviously than Calais Is.
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Speaker 1: Calais right, that's obvious. Calais fits that role and probably
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Speaker 1: has since the day he stepped into the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: But oh bet he's better at it now that when
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Speaker 1: he was. True. But I can't imagine Jalen doing that
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Speaker 1: seventeen times. I just don't. I don't know that that's
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Speaker 1: ever going to be his his role. He's Baileywick that
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Speaker 1: that's what he does. So you see someone like Talvin
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Speaker 1: who almost talks almost after every game and is always
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Speaker 1: insightful and everything. But when Jalen does talk and he
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Speaker 1: talks like that, it gives a lot of insight to it. All, right,
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Speaker 1: moving right along, next, big thing is obvious. Yes, big
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Speaker 1: thing too is Blake finished the day through the ball
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Speaker 1: eighteen times. That's it for a hundred and four yards
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Speaker 1: at the start of the game. It was very clear
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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars offense wanted to do, and it was
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Speaker 1: run the ball. Who worked in the first half, it
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Speaker 1: was apps in the second. You've got to look at
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Speaker 1: the offensive line when you're regarding big thing to hear
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Speaker 1: with Blake the end of the game with only two
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Speaker 1: starters from week one after they can't went out two. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I thought we were going to a SOT as we
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Speaker 1: call it. Um. Yeah, it's there's so much wrong. The
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Speaker 1: offense is broken, So I get I don't think Blake.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a hard look at the quarter position
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Speaker 1: the off season. I don't know how that look will
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Speaker 1: end up because of the cap. It's gonna be tricky
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Speaker 1: to change. Uh. It wouldn't surprise me if they change.
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Speaker 1: But there's so much unknown on that that it's hard
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Speaker 1: to say right now. He has severe limitations and things
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Speaker 1: he can do. At the same time, he sexed six times,
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Speaker 1: probably should have been sacked twelve times. Uh So, in
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Speaker 1: terms of what you should have done in the second
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Speaker 1: half of this particular game, with the offensive line not
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Speaker 1: able to block at all. Uh. You saw in the
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Speaker 1: first half times where they tried to pass, where they
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Speaker 1: tried to get something going, and it was a near disaster.
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Speaker 1: You had a sack fumble that almost turned into Steelers points.
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Speaker 1: So could they have been more creative? Should you have
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Speaker 1: thrown on third and five? Absolutely than of the game
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Speaker 1: find some way to throw on third and five at
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Speaker 1: the same time within the context of that game. Uh.
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Speaker 1: It was among the more avalanche modes I've ever seen
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Speaker 1: for a defensive line, meaning the Steelers defensive line the
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Speaker 1: day with offensive line, it was bad. So I'm standing
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Speaker 1: there with two twenty eight left to play listening to
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Speaker 1: the assistant coaches, the offensive assistant coaches on the sidelines say, look,
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Speaker 1: just one first down, we need ten yards, and that
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Speaker 1: seemed so simple, so doable, and yet what did they
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Speaker 1: end up with? Five? They have five of the ten
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Speaker 1: yards they got halfway there, which tells minus three yards
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Speaker 1: after the eight yard drive. Unfortunately, I really thought that
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Speaker 1: the game was blown in the first half, not the second.
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Speaker 1: And when you get two possessions in the second quarter
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Speaker 1: on the Steelers side of the field touchdowns there changed
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Speaker 1: the complexity of it entirely. The first half, I said, oh,
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Speaker 1: you just can't do that against Ben Roethlisberger. And you know,
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Speaker 1: here's here's my overall thought on Blake, particularly the the
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Speaker 1: post Buried Church interception drive was an absolute killer. So
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Speaker 1: when you're up by ten points in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 1: you know that it's not enough. When Blake Bortles is
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Speaker 1: your quarterback, because the guy on the other side, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's never too much, right. That's really the quarterback issue here.
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Speaker 1: He's not a fourth quarter come from behind guy. And
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Speaker 1: without the ability to throw the ball, they couldn't stay balanced,
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Speaker 1: and in that case, they couldn't protect the lead. The
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Speaker 1: defense needed help with a couple of first downs. The
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Speaker 1: defense did more than enough to win that ball game,
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Speaker 1: gave them short fields, turnovers, all of that, the offense
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Speaker 1: needed a couple of first downs to change the complexion
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Speaker 1: of it. So just a thought on Blake, And you
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Speaker 1: know we've defended him at times here this year because
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Speaker 1: of the way he can play and the guidiness. Remember
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Speaker 1: last week he had the game one Rashod Green's fumble
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Speaker 1: took away at least overtime, but in all likelihood, the
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Speaker 1: way they were driving the ball. He had done enough
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Speaker 1: last week to deliver a win in Indianapolis against by
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Speaker 1: the way, a surging Colds team. This week not enough
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Speaker 1: when you have Ben Roethlisberger. A ten point lead in
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter is not too much to overcome. When
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Speaker 1: you have Blake Bortles and this offense, it's not enough
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Speaker 1: to hold off the best. But when fans ask why
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Speaker 1: is he still the starter? Because he's the best quarterback
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Speaker 1: on your roster, two plays also stand out there. The
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Speaker 1: eight yard drive doesn't finished with a touchdown unless he
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Speaker 1: holds that ball. There's two players where he held the
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Speaker 1: ball and got the ball out to four net at
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Speaker 1: the last moment, which would not have happened. I didn't
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Speaker 1: have for Blake Bortles and the spin move to get
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Speaker 1: out of trouble. Now I can hear people saying, well,
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Speaker 1: a spin move is not what you went out of
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Speaker 1: your quarterback within the context of this team. Right now,
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Speaker 1: that drive ins there and you're only up twelve nothing
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Speaker 1: if not for his escapability, you know, that's why he'll
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Speaker 1: remain the starter for now. I believe. And it bears
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Speaker 1: mentioning one more time. You're playing with a backup guard,
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Speaker 1: a backup center, your third, fourth, fourth, left tackle. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you're playing with tight ends who are not starters. Isn't
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Speaker 1: a tight end? There's not there's not. And then you're
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Speaker 1: playing with with receivers who when they were open against
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Speaker 1: the Steelers defense, there was no time for him to throw,
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Speaker 1: and when there was time for him to throw, they
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Speaker 1: weren't open. It's not as if he's playing with a
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Speaker 1: stacked debt. He's not. And you have to see that
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Speaker 1: for what it is. And and John, I thought three
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Speaker 1: of us will appreciate this, and I don't know whether
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Speaker 1: you the audience will, but we're in the locker room
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Speaker 1: yesterday and guys are not wanting to talk all that much.
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Speaker 1: But everywhere you look, there's defensive players to talk right
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Speaker 1: A J Boy, Jalen Ramsey, A Lais Campbell, Telvin Smith, Miles,
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Speaker 1: Jackie Nique and Gockway, Barry Church Right, defense, defense, defense, defense.
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Speaker 1: There's no one on offense to talk to because there's
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Speaker 1: not a lot of players, and the guys who did
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Speaker 1: play yesterday didn't make plays. There's no offensive lineman to
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Speaker 1: talk to. Yeah, Leonard talked, uh and and Blake talked
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Speaker 1: because he has to use the quarterback. No receiver worth
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Speaker 1: talking to yesterday, no tight end worth going to, no
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman that you could converse with. There aren't enough
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Speaker 1: players on the offense, and just that in the locker
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Speaker 1: room tells me what he's dealing with and the innswers
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Speaker 1: of fairness. DJ Shark talks every week and he and
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Speaker 1: he did talk yesterday. Is growing into a kid who
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Speaker 1: I think will be a leader, but he's not now.
16:46
Speaker 1: Rookies are tough in that situation. So yes, so I
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Speaker 1: give him credit because he did stand. I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to clarify because I don't want to. But for the
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Speaker 1: most part, it's an offense without leaders, without playmakers, and
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to I'm not blaming the guys
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Speaker 1: for talking or not. It's just when you go to
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Speaker 1: the reality that list of defensive players, every one of
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Speaker 1: them is someone that the audience wants to see and
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Speaker 1: hear from, and on the offensive enough to merit speaking,
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Speaker 1: and on the offensive side, there's just not much there.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Play thought a big moment yesterday. You can
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Speaker 1: say that the offense lacked creativity and lacked aggressiveness, and
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Speaker 1: it did in key situations. It felt to me like
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Speaker 1: late in the first half they took their shots, they
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Speaker 1: had established the run, felt like they had established the
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Speaker 1: run enough to work play action, which is what This
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Speaker 1: offense is all about it once established a run and
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Speaker 1: then it wants to give Blake time for play action.
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Speaker 1: It had done that, It had its moments, It had
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Speaker 1: its chances to try it. After the Buried Church, I
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Speaker 1: think I remember this right after Bury Church they went
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Speaker 1: deep twice after Bury Church or Inception. Neither one was
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Speaker 1: close because there wasn't a receiver even close to being
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Speaker 1: open on those. And then all of a sudden after that,
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Speaker 1: the past attempts turned into Katie bar the door for
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Speaker 1: the Steelers defense. The failure on those couple of drives
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Speaker 1: I think set up what happened at the end in
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Speaker 1: terms of there's nothing we can do in the passing game,
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Speaker 1: and they're saying that's right. It feels like it plays
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Speaker 1: into the thing. And the irony of that is is
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Speaker 1: as much as people complained about the running at the end,
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Speaker 1: at that moment in time, I had people shouldn't say
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Speaker 1: to me you should have run because you were gashing
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Speaker 1: the Steelers At that point you're thinking, this is at
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Speaker 1: the very least, this is what we expected to see
18:34
Speaker 1: it up, and now it's time for the kills. I know,
18:36
Speaker 1: I get it, taken it and gotten stuffed Oh, you're
18:40
Speaker 1: an idiot. That's what it is. I know why he
18:43
Speaker 1: did what he did. It just it felt timilar. They
18:45
Speaker 1: should have been running too. We started Big Thing too
18:48
Speaker 1: with with you saying correctly, the offense is broken, and
18:52
Speaker 1: we'll end big Thing too with saying the offense is broken. Yes,
18:55
Speaker 1: Big Thing three, A Big Thing three is Ben Ben.
18:58
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger gave the opportunity to take the ball away from you.
19:02
Speaker 1: We've heard it from time and time again the past
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Speaker 1: few weeks. The Jaguars found a way to lose this game.
19:07
Speaker 1: Steelers in a beat You Jaguars found a way to
19:10
Speaker 1: lose this game. Well, Roethlisberger made seventy your touchdown. He
19:16
Speaker 1: had time to throw, h he had time to throw
19:19
Speaker 1: on the vance McDonald. He had an offensive line in
19:24
Speaker 1: front of him. Give him enough time, and he's so
19:26
Speaker 1: good in the pocket, and he's not gonna run, He's
19:28
Speaker 1: gonna stand there. He made a couple of Keith throws
19:31
Speaker 1: as as much as the Jaguars contained him for three quarters.
19:36
Speaker 1: At the end, Roethlisberger was Roethlisberger. They intercepted him five
19:40
Speaker 1: times a year. I know, I mean and and two
19:43
Speaker 1: of them were taking and got taken away. And it's
19:46
Speaker 1: a little tough to say that because the one mile
19:48
Speaker 1: is jack that got taken away got by a bad
19:51
Speaker 1: call against Calais. I thought, uh, it got taken and
19:55
Speaker 1: even call. In the next play, Jalen gets the interception.
19:59
Speaker 1: You go down and you go up sixteen to nothing
20:02
Speaker 1: after that. So those two penalties are we're talking about
20:04
Speaker 1: those penalties. You say four times they got him. Those
20:06
Speaker 1: two penalties really didn't hurt um the DJ Hayden. I
20:11
Speaker 1: rewatched it. It appeared it was a good call penalty.
20:17
Speaker 1: I don't know that it was why he got the interception.
20:20
Speaker 1: It was a little tricky, but uh, I guess point
20:23
Speaker 1: being he got picked four times and still figured out
20:28
Speaker 1: a way to keep coming back, keep coming back. And
20:31
Speaker 1: as I say that, it's because the Jaguars offense couldn't
20:35
Speaker 1: get enough separation to make him pay for those penalties.
20:39
Speaker 1: I mean to make him pay for the interceptions and
20:42
Speaker 1: credit Toune's why he's gonna be Hall of Famer. He
20:44
Speaker 1: saw the difference in the Jaguars fourth quarter offense and
20:47
Speaker 1: the Steelers fourth quarter offense. And you see the fourth
20:49
Speaker 1: quarter drives a three out minus fourteen yards three out
20:53
Speaker 1: minus one yards, a three and out positive six yards,
20:56
Speaker 1: one play, lost fumble. That's the fourth quarter. Now much
20:59
Speaker 1: to say he made great throws on that final drive
21:02
Speaker 1: to Jujuice Smith, Schuster, h too Brown. I mean, they
21:07
Speaker 1: just but it felt inevitable at that point. Yeah, you
21:09
Speaker 1: can feel com I mean it was when he's on
21:13
Speaker 1: the sideline, even up sixteen nothing, it didn't feel as
21:16
Speaker 1: if the game was yet in and and to that
21:19
Speaker 1: point they really had controlled him. He had done nothing.
21:21
Speaker 1: But it's Ben Roethlisberger and that's that's this league. But
21:26
Speaker 1: that was to have that guy. I again think that
21:29
Speaker 1: went into the decision making at the end of the
21:30
Speaker 1: first half. You're up not it was nine nothing at
21:34
Speaker 1: that point or six, and I think it was in
21:35
Speaker 1: that range. Um, there is a sense that when you've
21:38
Speaker 1: got this team down me and the Steelers, you gotta
21:40
Speaker 1: take your kill shot when you can. And and they
21:44
Speaker 1: went after it. If they hit one of those, we're
21:45
Speaker 1: talking about a different game. And uh, if you're up
21:48
Speaker 1: seventeen to nothing at the half with two touchdowns instead
21:51
Speaker 1: of three, at a field goal instead of three field goals,
21:53
Speaker 1: or even if you're up thirteen to nothing one one touchdown,
21:56
Speaker 1: in two field goals. It's a completely different game in
21:58
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Speaker 1: I don't you would want to go into the locker room. Oh,
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Speaker 1: every everywhere. That's my life, all right. We have highlights
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Speaker 1: for you. We do some good, some bad. Let's go
25:09
Speaker 1: all the way to the second quarter and show you
25:11
Speaker 1: the defensive stars for the day where he's on the
25:15
Speaker 1: sideline and Camber accepted that was Ramsey who chopped the
25:24
Speaker 1: cross the middle. That's the same play he made in
25:27
Speaker 1: October with a puck fake out this quarter on the rod,
25:35
Speaker 1: this talk Berry Church. So you're starting to think, you know,
25:40
Speaker 1: this looks just like the ballgame last October in Pittsburgh
25:44
Speaker 1: when Jalen had the interception and then very hand. Yeah,
25:47
Speaker 1: what a great play. He's done that so many times
25:49
Speaker 1: in his young career. Are we showing the second one
25:52
Speaker 1: as well? Okay, we're gonna show it. Yeah, I'll speak
25:55
Speaker 1: after them. Okay, we'll wait patiently for that and look
25:58
Speaker 1: forward to go ahead, John oh Um. Three times against
26:07
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger last year and yesterday and yesterday he has
26:13
Speaker 1: meaning Jalen made plays intercepted passes where I haven't I
26:19
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Ben about it, obviously, but there were
26:24
Speaker 1: so athletic that they defied Ben's catalog of quarterbacking, Meaning
26:30
Speaker 1: he made throws that should have been completions and should
26:34
Speaker 1: have been there and it didn't. The one in Pittsburgh
26:37
Speaker 1: last year where he cut in front of the tight end,
26:40
Speaker 1: very similar where he dupes the quarterback. He duked Roethlisberger
26:44
Speaker 1: on that one where it should have been a completion,
26:47
Speaker 1: and Jalen's athleticism is so much different than other corners
26:51
Speaker 1: that Roethlisberger played against. That he made what should have
26:55
Speaker 1: been a good throw against another corner and they turned
26:57
Speaker 1: interceptions on Ramsey. That's very, very very rare, and it's
27:00
Speaker 1: no different than the play that he made in London.
27:02
Speaker 1: I mean, Carson went through that ball. There's no way
27:05
Speaker 1: he could have thought that Ramsey, who was way out
27:07
Speaker 1: out of friending to the right, could get to the
27:09
Speaker 1: end zone to make that play, and he did. That's
27:11
Speaker 1: that's why London, though Wentz probably wasn't even reading Ramsey.
27:16
Speaker 1: Ramsey's in Rothsburg's field of vision. He's watching it. Ramsey
27:19
Speaker 1: even caused the very church intersection because he has been
27:22
Speaker 1: trying to throw it away from Uh. Ramsey is on Brown.
27:27
Speaker 1: UH usually don't see a cornerback. It's hard to dominate
27:31
Speaker 1: a game at that position. And they got ramsey wants
27:34
Speaker 1: at the very end of the game. In this league,
27:36
Speaker 1: you're gonna get gotten. UH. Two interceptions a pass breakup
27:40
Speaker 1: causing a third means you've broken served three times. It's
27:44
Speaker 1: Uh again, it's as good performance by a cornerback as
27:47
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. All right, let's keep the ball
27:50
Speaker 1: rolling the third quarter up nine to zero. Jalen yet
27:53
Speaker 1: again as scored a touchdown a second streat games it
27:57
Speaker 1: is passed the end zone. This one just defies explanation.
28:06
Speaker 1: Look at that, I mean, who does or the body
28:09
Speaker 1: control not to interfere. Oh, first of all, that's a
28:13
Speaker 1: because any other most other cornerbacks, it's interference because you
28:17
Speaker 1: have to go through them. Jalen went up and over him,
28:19
Speaker 1: which again defies logic. But look at look he hits
28:22
Speaker 1: the ball to stop it. The other angle that we
28:24
Speaker 1: show is he stops the momentum of the ball and
28:27
Speaker 1: then grabs it. And watch right here, look at this,
28:30
Speaker 1: I mean this is just look at it, looks down, catches,
28:34
Speaker 1: it has the wherewithal to realize he might not have
28:36
Speaker 1: been touched. And then there's the you know sometimes you
28:41
Speaker 1: hear from fans while they've quit they don't care, etcetera, etcetera.
28:46
Speaker 1: The the effort and the desire to make something happen,
28:50
Speaker 1: to know that your offense is basically ineffective and that
28:54
Speaker 1: has to come from your side of the ball. Uh,
28:56
Speaker 1: And then to almost that turned into twenty three more
28:59
Speaker 1: yards scored. Anyway, So this was a play set of
29:01
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But you know, don't think that these guys
29:05
Speaker 1: aren't trying. It's a silly comment. And if we see
29:09
Speaker 1: that angle one more time, you just don't see guys
29:13
Speaker 1: that can do everything that has to happen in there
29:16
Speaker 1: to stay off of Brown, to slow down the ball
29:19
Speaker 1: then the ball gets away from him. Most guys that's
29:21
Speaker 1: just a great play to break up a pass. But
29:24
Speaker 1: not Ramsey. He's able to track the ball and keep
29:28
Speaker 1: it from hitting the ground. He is and this is
29:31
Speaker 1: almost indescribable his talent. I'm gonna say this tongue and
29:34
Speaker 1: this is a guy with bad hands. He can't intercept
29:36
Speaker 1: the ball. That was the word on him coming out
29:37
Speaker 1: of Florida State. It was absolutely the reason why people
29:41
Speaker 1: thought he was going to move to safety. It was
29:44
Speaker 1: every draft analyst that you heard because I think he
29:48
Speaker 1: had one interception in college or I mean college is
29:51
Speaker 1: very low and that was the thing that was an
29:53
Speaker 1: absolute thing. You pay that talent, you deal with the
29:58
Speaker 1: talent and the baggage that comes a on with it.
30:00
Speaker 1: You just you shrug your shoulders. When he isn't here
30:03
Speaker 1: in the off season, you build around that because I've
30:07
Speaker 1: done this. There's twenty five seasons and I've never seen
30:12
Speaker 1: a cornerback like that. Yeah, the five weeks away from
30:14
Speaker 1: the stadium, really backing up on him, Yes, him really
30:18
Speaker 1: hurting him. All right, let's go to the Jaguars offense
30:21
Speaker 1: now responded well after that interception, the best drive of
30:24
Speaker 1: the game for the offense portals. I wanted to go off.
30:30
Speaker 1: Tops it off up four back Canning gold hand on
30:35
Speaker 1: the full back to the tail back to that. I
30:43
Speaker 1: guess they didn't see that, by the way, but I
30:45
Speaker 1: mean he came down with the ball in the end zone.
30:47
Speaker 1: They didn't even hesitate on the Ben Roethlisberger call, and
30:50
Speaker 1: yet here's can see that he lands with the ball
30:54
Speaker 1: on the stripe. The only thing I can think is
30:56
Speaker 1: maybe the official on this side was blocked by chart
30:59
Speaker 1: and what it make sure but clearly was Yeah. I
31:05
Speaker 1: but you know what we didn't show him that was
31:07
Speaker 1: in this series was the spin and the scramble by
31:11
Speaker 1: Blake and then the second pass with the safety Terrell
31:14
Speaker 1: Edmonds bearing down on Blake. He holds the ball until
31:18
Speaker 1: the last second to dump it out to four net
31:21
Speaker 1: who took it down inside the five yard line set
31:23
Speaker 1: up that touchdown. That was a great drive by Bordles
31:26
Speaker 1: and holding the ball. Somebody said to me last night
31:28
Speaker 1: they were checkdowns. So what difference does that? Does the
31:32
Speaker 1: ball have to go eight yards like Ben puts it
31:35
Speaker 1: to equal six points. He's got a lot of things
31:39
Speaker 1: that are that are really pluses the problem. As we
31:43
Speaker 1: all know, there are certain throws you can't make, uh,
31:47
Speaker 1: and that really hurts in this day and eight and
31:51
Speaker 1: you know, well, so much time to go over and
31:54
Speaker 1: over and over Blake as we move forward. But um,
31:57
Speaker 1: there are things you can't question and things you have
31:59
Speaker 1: to question at the story of his career. Sadly, Yes,
32:02
Speaker 1: all right, let's go all the way to the fourth
32:03
Speaker 1: quarter game on the line. You're asking the defense to
32:06
Speaker 1: a lot. Here, you're up sixteen to thirteen. Antonio Brown
32:09
Speaker 1: shows why he is an All Pro receivers. Pass three
32:19
Speaker 1: with the Ramsey on the coverage and Jaylee got rubbed
32:23
Speaker 1: on that route. You see it right there. The tight
32:25
Speaker 1: end just got in front of him trying to play
32:27
Speaker 1: cutch up. Yeah, it was. It was perfect in a
32:32
Speaker 1: clutch situation when although my name is going away, It's
32:36
Speaker 1: what the great ones do, It's what the great teams do,
32:38
Speaker 1: It's what the great wide receivers do. If Brown gets
32:40
Speaker 1: a half a step on you, then Roethlisberger is so
32:43
Speaker 1: accurate he's going to put the ball right on the spot.
32:45
Speaker 1: And those two, of course have worked together for years.
32:47
Speaker 1: They knew it was coming. When it matters. Ben struggled earlier,
32:50
Speaker 1: but when it matters, I mean there are a lot
32:52
Speaker 1: of bad passes early, but when it matters, and that
32:58
Speaker 1: of course set up Roethlisberger's touchdow Yes before the play
33:01
Speaker 1: d J. Hayden interception got called back because of a
33:03
Speaker 1: face mask, and this stealed the game for the Steelers.
33:06
Speaker 1: Pull for it's most of the way coming up, big
33:09
Speaker 1: rubbing when it got options, that does six ft five
33:18
Speaker 1: to fifty throwing his body forward and looking Miles Jack
33:22
Speaker 1: had no chance, I mean a foot further up the field.
33:26
Speaker 1: You hold him out. They kicked a field goal. You
33:28
Speaker 1: got over time. But that's the game of inchest right
33:30
Speaker 1: there at unique and Gockoy steps in. It takes that
33:33
Speaker 1: shovel past advance. McDonald away had Yeah, you know you
33:38
Speaker 1: had to stop that first, And Miles said he took
33:42
Speaker 1: should have taken a better angle, could have taken a
33:44
Speaker 1: better angle. Uh to bang bang play and it's a game. Yeah,
33:48
Speaker 1: they got all those things, game inches, they made the play.
33:50
Speaker 1: Jaguars lose their sixth in a row, Stealers win their sixth.
33:53
Speaker 1: And don't you get the idea that last year that
33:55
Speaker 1: face mask panily doesn't get called? Yeah, I mean that's
33:58
Speaker 1: that's what goes. That's sort of the way it is.
33:59
Speaker 1: When when Hayden came up with a ball, I thought, Okay,
34:02
Speaker 1: now what a story we're going to have to tell tomorrow. Yeah,
34:05
Speaker 1: you're four and six a game back in the Worldome
34:07
Speaker 1: and and heading to Buffalo with an exciting fashion. Yeah exactly.
34:11
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Speaker 1: your Jaguars sixth consecutive loss, this time to the Steelers
36:12
Speaker 1: twenty to sixteen. Kind of felt fogg you around here
36:15
Speaker 1: last night. I won't lie to you, trying to get
36:19
Speaker 1: clear of that one. Yeah, Well when you saw it
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to William A. K a broken
36:56
Speaker 1: Jacks fan. Hello, oh man, Just one question? What's Blake
37:01
Speaker 1: Boardle is doing on the field if the coaches don't
37:03
Speaker 1: trust him enough. I'm sure Kessler could hand off the
37:05
Speaker 1: ball three times too. Is this true? Um? But it
37:10
Speaker 1: goes back to what he talked about the reason he's
37:12
Speaker 1: on the field is the plays he made in the
37:15
Speaker 1: A D R drive. The mobility, the ability to get
37:19
Speaker 1: away from pressure. And again, if you have a less
37:21
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback yesterday, I don't how many times he gets
37:23
Speaker 1: a well, a less aware quarterback, the guy who has
37:26
Speaker 1: been through that less um. The trust factor also was
37:30
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I mean, you have a backup
37:33
Speaker 1: at center, guard and left tackle. Your right tackle didn't
37:37
Speaker 1: play very well yesterday and yeah, not very well at all,
37:41
Speaker 1: and so they didn't trust the protection. I'm not sure that.
37:45
Speaker 1: I mean, look, oftentimes is the case and he gets
37:47
Speaker 1: put on the quarterback. Blake was off early. He missed
37:50
Speaker 1: early in the ball game. There was a throw that
37:53
Speaker 1: he made to the wrong but t J. Yelden steps
37:56
Speaker 1: out and it's wide open. If he drops it off,
37:58
Speaker 1: it's a first down. When he didn't see that first quarter,
38:01
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, he's off today, because that that means
38:03
Speaker 1: that's just this um. He wasn't. I don't the only
38:08
Speaker 1: do the ball eighteen times? There was no rhythm, that
38:10
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it. One of his completions was a
38:13
Speaker 1: tip ball for goodness sakes, Um, but still he was
38:17
Speaker 1: to me it was the protection issues, because I would
38:19
Speaker 1: think you would have trusted him on third down and
38:21
Speaker 1: five if you had the offensive line. Again, when you're
38:24
Speaker 1: discussing Blake, you have to clarify her and things. It's
38:28
Speaker 1: not that we're defending him and saying that he played well,
38:31
Speaker 1: but at the end of the game to say that
38:35
Speaker 1: they didn't trust him, Uh, it was more not trusting
38:39
Speaker 1: the offensive line to protect at that point, Which doesn't
38:42
Speaker 1: mean we think that he's the long term answer. It
38:44
Speaker 1: means that in that moment, the trust was more offensive line.
38:48
Speaker 1: You know, early in this season, we were able to
38:51
Speaker 1: point back to the way that he played last December
38:53
Speaker 1: and the way that this team wanted to play and
38:56
Speaker 1: make a case for how he could be effective in
38:58
Speaker 1: this offense. Right now, that's a very difficult thing to do.
39:02
Speaker 1: All those puzzle pieces are missing from what we said earlier. Well,
39:05
Speaker 1: true enough, all of those pieces have to be there
39:07
Speaker 1: for sure what they decide to do going forward, you know.
39:12
Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch the Saints in the Rams
39:14
Speaker 1: game back during our bye week, Um, you saw what
39:17
Speaker 1: the future of this league is. You saw how you
39:20
Speaker 1: win in this league. Score defense has to make a
39:22
Speaker 1: couple of plays look at all the talent by the
39:23
Speaker 1: way they have on the Rams defense, right, but they
39:26
Speaker 1: just needed to get a couple of plays. They couldn't
39:28
Speaker 1: do it. The Saints same thing. They have some talented pieces.
39:31
Speaker 1: Just to play here or there, you've got to be
39:33
Speaker 1: able to chuck the ball. Like my dad said, it's
39:36
Speaker 1: boring to watch the Jaguars offense. And he's not the
39:40
Speaker 1: only person saying that. Sadly. All right, let's go to
39:42
Speaker 1: Kyle from St. Augustine, Florida. Why the lack of play
39:46
Speaker 1: action in the second half. Well, I think it goes
39:49
Speaker 1: back to the second quarter. We talked about the second quarter,
39:52
Speaker 1: and we just talked about the offensive line. It's great
39:54
Speaker 1: to have play action. If you fake the ball to
39:57
Speaker 1: the running back and turn around and there's two guys
39:59
Speaker 1: in your face, that's a scary play. They had planned
40:03
Speaker 1: on more day on that. No, No, they had planned
40:05
Speaker 1: on play action being a big part of it. And
40:07
Speaker 1: Austin Seferian Jenkins down the scene was you know, that's
40:10
Speaker 1: why they went and got him. Hasn't been here. They
40:12
Speaker 1: don't have a tight end that they can rely on
40:14
Speaker 1: in that sense, they don't have an offensive line they
40:15
Speaker 1: can rely on in that sense. So they tried play
40:17
Speaker 1: action late in the first half and it didn't work.
40:19
Speaker 1: And when you're play fake results in you getting hit,
40:25
Speaker 1: then play action is an eight yard loss rather than
40:28
Speaker 1: a good play. And so that's why the lack of
40:30
Speaker 1: in the second half. It would have been awesome, but
40:35
Speaker 1: there was not there. All right, Let's go to Jordan
40:37
Speaker 1: from Lake one of his stuff. Hey, John, turns out
40:40
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is still very good and the Jaguars probably
40:43
Speaker 1: aren't trading him. Yes, I agree, that's all I have
40:48
Speaker 1: to say. It's that was a storyline of the game,
40:52
Speaker 1: and we've gone over and over and over it. Uh.
40:56
Speaker 1: I don't see him trading him. He's a guy that
40:58
Speaker 1: you have to have as a corps and again what
41:02
Speaker 1: you hope and what he needs to do, and I
41:04
Speaker 1: think you can see him sometimes when you see these
41:07
Speaker 1: guys in real time, which we do around around him
41:09
Speaker 1: all the time, you don't realize that there is still
41:11
Speaker 1: learning how to be a pro involved. Um. I think Jalen,
41:16
Speaker 1: you hope that last week against Indy taught him a
41:20
Speaker 1: little bit more about how to prepare each week, how
41:23
Speaker 1: to be at his highest level each week. It's okay,
41:27
Speaker 1: for that to take time. These guys aren't perfect. He
41:31
Speaker 1: needs to be Pittsburgh Jalen and at Annapolis Jalen, and
41:37
Speaker 1: I can't believe being around that he doesn't know that.
41:39
Speaker 1: You know, this defense is likely to look very different
41:42
Speaker 1: next year. There's so much money committed up front, like
41:46
Speaker 1: sixty five million dollars to the defensive front. The safeties
41:50
Speaker 1: combined UH are at about fifteen million in cap room.
41:54
Speaker 1: So when you look at this defense from a big
41:56
Speaker 1: picture perspective, you gotta have some cover guys if you're
41:59
Speaker 1: gonna change the front, and they have to change to
42:02
Speaker 1: the front to some degree. Um, Jalen is one of
42:05
Speaker 1: those guys that you're gonna build around. I mean, you're
42:07
Speaker 1: gonna sit and have long conversations about how you're retooling,
42:10
Speaker 1: but every conversation starts with twenty mhm. Back there. To
42:16
Speaker 1: have a guy like that as you're reimagining how you
42:20
Speaker 1: play defense here next year, which they're going to have
42:22
Speaker 1: to do to have a guy like that, and boy,
42:24
Speaker 1: the cards we should give him credit. Boy put pretty
42:26
Speaker 1: none well yesterday, first game back since before London does
42:30
Speaker 1: the Texans game. And to have those two corners out
42:33
Speaker 1: there and yet d J. Hayden, you played pretty well
42:34
Speaker 1: as well. First time they had their secondary together since
42:37
Speaker 1: week two, and they'll have that next year. Most teams
42:40
Speaker 1: don't have the embarrassment of talent that they had last
42:45
Speaker 1: year in terms of the guy at every spot. But
42:48
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have in gock Way. You're gonna have
42:50
Speaker 1: I think Marcel Darius up front, and you have those
42:53
Speaker 1: three corners. Uh. The cupboards not bear on defenseiles Jack
42:58
Speaker 1: at least on defense. So the teams have built good
43:04
Speaker 1: defenses around less than that. All right, Bat'll do it
43:08
Speaker 1: for the ozone snapshot. We'll take one final break when
43:10
Speaker 1: we return, we'll pay off. He will, he won't. He might.
43:12
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43:15
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45:00
Speaker 1: take a look at our Exfinity player of the game.
45:03
Speaker 1: No surprise, as John said say, Jalen Ramsey two interception
45:08
Speaker 1: day covering one of the best receivers in the league
45:11
Speaker 1: had an outstanding day. And I'm reading the comments here
45:14
Speaker 1: at a morning drinkers out there, all six votes you
45:18
Speaker 1: say should be for Jalen Ramsey. Drinkers, we have a
45:21
Speaker 1: comment here and I think it's fair to point out
45:23
Speaker 1: Jogues Freak says, is DJ Chark our best special teamer
45:27
Speaker 1: right now? I feel like a good argument could be
45:28
Speaker 1: made without his special team's contributions the past two weeks,
45:31
Speaker 1: wouldn't even have a chance to win the game on
45:34
Speaker 1: both sides of it without a doubt, both in coverage
45:37
Speaker 1: as we saw yesterday in in the return game the
45:40
Speaker 1: week before. He's been steady on this since the preseason
45:42
Speaker 1: and getting much better. Yeah, every week, it seems like
45:44
Speaker 1: he's taking a step forward. Credit Jeff Agman for this,
45:47
Speaker 1: uh for the season, maybe early in the season. DJ
45:51
Speaker 1: is not there yet as a receiver. But Jeff's point,
45:54
Speaker 1: and I think he's mostly right. When you're playing as
45:59
Speaker 1: well on special teams as a young receiver as he is,
46:02
Speaker 1: or or a young player anywhere, you usually wind up
46:07
Speaker 1: seeing that player developed into a good positional player because
46:12
Speaker 1: the desire, the work ethic, all those things is right.
46:15
Speaker 1: You're not playing special teams this well as chart is
46:17
Speaker 1: just on talent alone. There's attention, there's desire to do it.
46:22
Speaker 1: So I think it does bode well for him as
46:24
Speaker 1: a as a positional player moving forward. You know, the
46:26
Speaker 1: thing that I say I have said about this kid
46:28
Speaker 1: is how smart he is. Three nine student at at
46:32
Speaker 1: L s U. Besides the length and the speed and
46:34
Speaker 1: all of that, I mean, he's a smart guy and
46:37
Speaker 1: he pays attention. And I talked to him in the
46:39
Speaker 1: locker room there. Year's first time i'd interviewed in post
46:41
Speaker 1: game because we needed an offensive player, and we talked
46:44
Speaker 1: about the offense, not about special teams. And if you
46:47
Speaker 1: go watch it, it's up on Jaguars dot com. Um
46:50
Speaker 1: he's got good answers. You know, I mean he's self reflective,
46:54
Speaker 1: he knows what he needs to do, and he's gently
46:57
Speaker 1: critical of the receivers as a whole, which is not
46:59
Speaker 1: easy for kie player to do. Three nine. That's at
47:02
Speaker 1: there inlin territory. Oh, that's very territory, very very far. Sadly,
47:07
Speaker 1: all right, Uh, let's do NFL headlines? Shall we? Can
47:11
Speaker 1: we do that? Max? Or have I jumped the shark
47:13
Speaker 1: on this one? Start with it? When you look? How
47:15
Speaker 1: about this one? Right? Yesterday, sadly, the thirty third anniversary
47:20
Speaker 1: of Joe Theisman's leg that was broken on Monday Night
47:23
Speaker 1: football when Lawrence Taylor tackled him. Alex Smith, the quarterback
47:28
Speaker 1: that the Redskins traded for with Kansas City UM hadn't
47:32
Speaker 1: had a great year, but he was sacked by Kareem
47:35
Speaker 1: Jackson and j. J. Watt and suffered essentially the same injury,
47:39
Speaker 1: a compound fracture of the tibia and the phibia, and
47:43
Speaker 1: was set for immediate surgery. And and the fact Heisman
47:47
Speaker 1: was there, and he lives in Memphis, he doesn't go
47:49
Speaker 1: to all that many games. He was there on the
47:50
Speaker 1: thirty third anniversary of him and his career never came
47:54
Speaker 1: back now never played again. No Smith and and Fisman
47:57
Speaker 1: said that there was a risk of infection with him,
48:00
Speaker 1: so they treated his injury a little bit different. The
48:02
Speaker 1: compound fracture you could have that also with Smith. Smith
48:05
Speaker 1: is thirty four years old. Who knows whether he'll returned
48:08
Speaker 1: from this one as well, But just eerie that shows
48:11
Speaker 1: in the house. And it's thirty three years to the day.
48:14
Speaker 1: Um tried to come back the next year and uh
48:18
Speaker 1: never made it back. The Skins went with J. Strader
48:20
Speaker 1: moved forward. You the difference is, unfortunately for the Redskins,
48:25
Speaker 1: Smith was playing very very well at the time. Tisman
48:27
Speaker 1: was not playing well before he got hurt. They needed
48:29
Speaker 1: to make a change. They Redskins fan at the time,
48:32
Speaker 1: I can tell you all about them. But yeah, it's
48:34
Speaker 1: a it's a tough injury for a guy. And Alex Smith,
48:38
Speaker 1: who has been a better quarterback late in his career
48:41
Speaker 1: than he was earlier. And you have Laura's Taylor that sack. Tisman,
48:44
Speaker 1: the pre eminent defensive player at this time. And you
48:46
Speaker 1: see J. J. Watt wasn't on that one as well,
48:48
Speaker 1: So even weirder Max, just the way it's the same
48:50
Speaker 1: final score as that King, I didn't even see that.
48:53
Speaker 1: It was reverse. Yeah, actually the Skins one and eighty six,
48:57
Speaker 1: eight five unless this a lot of field goal sixty
48:59
Speaker 1: three or field goal that that failed to hit the mark.
49:02
Speaker 1: So how about the Chargers. They got Joey Bosa back yesterday,
49:05
Speaker 1: one of the hottest teams in football. They're playing the Raiders.
49:09
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be seven straight. They hadn't done
49:11
Speaker 1: that in the Philip Rivers era. Then they lose a
49:14
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber defensive lineman, Coil Lagette toward his quadricep tendant.
49:18
Speaker 1: So they get back Bosa, but the strength of their
49:22
Speaker 1: defense that front, that sets up what Bosa Ingram do.
49:24
Speaker 1: They lose their best defensive player outside of those two
49:28
Speaker 1: guys yesterday. Jette is down. So Gus Bradley dealing with
49:31
Speaker 1: some injuries on the defensive side for the Chargers. And
49:34
Speaker 1: we'll wrap it up with this the Yeah, they kind
49:40
Speaker 1: of blur that there. So it's the The Saints are
49:44
Speaker 1: leading by thirty one points and on fourth and six,
49:48
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, the Saints coach, goes for it and Alvin
49:52
Speaker 1: Kamara beats Malcolm Jenkins, the former St. Current Eagle safety
49:57
Speaker 1: for a thirty seven yeard touchdown and his reaction was
50:00
Speaker 1: turn to Sean Payton and offer a salute. Nice afterwards,
50:06
Speaker 1: they said. Afterwards, Peyton says I'm cool with it, and
50:09
Speaker 1: Jakins goes, now, we're cool, man. It was just the
50:11
Speaker 1: heat of the moment. Saints number one exactly. You know
50:15
Speaker 1: how about this Saints by h give me a break.
50:18
Speaker 1: There's some talkie year ago. There was some talking year
50:23
Speaker 1: ago that Drew Brees, whose salary cap numbers was thirty
50:26
Speaker 1: seven million dollars this year, and they couldn't afford that
50:28
Speaker 1: they were up against the cabin They restructured him. And
50:31
Speaker 1: he's forty years old. And I mean they might be
50:34
Speaker 1: the favorites in the in the NFC right now. Yeah,
50:39
Speaker 1: they do. We see them on Thanksgiving saying Thanksgiving. I'm
50:43
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't care. It's very far away. Heard that?
50:46
Speaker 1: All right? How about let's pay off he will he
50:48
Speaker 1: won't he might? And wrap this show up. John from
50:52
Speaker 1: from Friday, you took unique in guck Way and play well,
50:57
Speaker 1: I got a sack. They pressured Roethlisberger in the second
51:05
Speaker 1: half and got to him on the one drive or
51:09
Speaker 1: him and Clais I think had sacks in the same way. Uh,
51:12
Speaker 1: it wasn't quite the avalanche that you need against big band.
51:17
Speaker 1: But and he's got six sacks. As I said before,
51:20
Speaker 1: if he was playing on a team with the lead
51:23
Speaker 1: as he was last year, I think he'd have nine
51:26
Speaker 1: or ten. I think he's pretty much the same player
51:27
Speaker 1: was last year. Six games left. You can easily see
51:29
Speaker 1: him getting a sack in every game. He's that kind
51:31
Speaker 1: of player, all right. Barry Church was yours, Yes he was.
51:34
Speaker 1: I said he will bounce back after a very poor
51:37
Speaker 1: performance against the Colts, and he sure did that. I
51:39
Speaker 1: said he won't be the star player on defense. He
51:42
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly the star, but he was close to it.
51:43
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey was the star on defense yesterday, and I
51:46
Speaker 1: said he might get an interception this week. What was
51:49
Speaker 1: I right? A good week? I had Miles Jack. I
51:54
Speaker 1: said that he would be a factor in the drag
51:56
Speaker 1: Wars run defense, and they held James Conner down early
52:00
Speaker 1: and uh two point five per carry for Connor only
52:02
Speaker 1: twenty five yards, So good day by Miles. And he
52:04
Speaker 1: was in on a lot of those tackles in the
52:06
Speaker 1: middle of the field like you'd expect your middle linebacker.
52:08
Speaker 1: But I said that that he won't be able to
52:12
Speaker 1: just walk out of the building and go home after
52:14
Speaker 1: the game's gonna be sore. But he got dressed and
52:16
Speaker 1: walked out of the building. So I was wrong on
52:17
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, and you hear he was walking good end. Yeah,
52:22
Speaker 1: And I said he might have an interception and uh
52:25
Speaker 1: it was taken back by the penalty on Las Campbell.
52:28
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of sort of so and then then truthfully
52:31
Speaker 1: he uh he had that bad angle, that self confessed
52:34
Speaker 1: bad angle on Ben Roethlisberger at the end of the
52:37
Speaker 1: ball game. It's tough. I mean, I was gonna say,
52:39
Speaker 1: make too much of that. Let's say it would have
52:43
Speaker 1: done an all time play to make the stop on
52:45
Speaker 1: that one. You know, and Day was making all time
52:48
Speaker 1: plays this year except for uh. That's our show on
52:52
Speaker 1: a Monday morning, Jaguars three and six. Thanksgiving week heading
52:55
Speaker 1: to Buffalo. More to talk about will be on the
52:57
Speaker 1: air tomorrow, Shlynn and I will be and then John
53:00
Speaker 1: joins us on Wednesday and Friday. We're taking Thanksgiving off, um,
53:04
Speaker 1: so we'll wrap it up. Thanks to Joe and to
53:06
Speaker 1: Hollywood in the other room. See you tomorrow morning, folks.
53:09
Speaker 1: Eight thirty here on the Jaguars Digital Network. Yeah,