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Rabbi Moshe Haber Iggeret Ramban:Humility: The Foundation of *Shechina* and Serenity 11.23.25 · Rabbi Moshe Haber - Daily Mussar/Weekly Perasha

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  Doing this letter of Ramban I know it's been a lot of it
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  Center vision predicator for Ramban is writing a letter to
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  his son has predicated on humility and the the powers and
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  the effects of humility. You see he said how do you get
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  it? He get it and about exactly so
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  he says that a person has that trait the way he describes this
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  thing is laid for Sheshmiko Adam, which means you're in a
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  certain sense you're shy in front of people.
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  In other words, not displaying arrogance and then also directly
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  related fearful from God. They go they go hand in hand and
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  a person is humble. He has the ability to see
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  people. He also has the ability to see
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  Hashem. Then he says something's
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  surprised, gentleman is surprised, and that is us.
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  When a person carries this right and most effective character
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  trait of humility, he has the spirit of the Shekinah upon him,
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  the Ziv Kivoda, another very lofty word, and he has the the,
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  the splendor of God's glory upon this person.
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  Then he says the Khayya Olamaba and the person lives life of
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  Olamaba. We're talking about the natural
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  world. That's what it means.
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  No, he's referring actually to this world, which means
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  according to his words, and we'll try to explain, the person
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  properly, gets his character under control and hits the right
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  spot of humility, has a proper recognition who he is and his
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  role and all that, and recognizes Hashem.
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  The next three steps are all powerful, lofty steps.
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  He has his Shaheena on him, he has the glory of Hashem on him,
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  and he's living alive of Allahabad in this world.
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  How is that possible? How old is lofty things
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  possible? So very clear.
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  Let's go one by one. The first one at least is
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  shakina. Shakina means you have a sense
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  of presence with you. The way it works very clearly is
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  that if a person stands very tall, the person acts arrogant.
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  The Gemini tells us arrogance, Dohera, glass, shakina,
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  arrogance pushes away. We call the feet of the
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  Shahrina. What that means is if I fill up
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  the room, there's no room for God.
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  And the opposite that we've discussed in the past, the
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  opposite is if I carry myself in a lighter way, if I make myself
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  a little more humble, I make myself in my mind a little
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  smaller, I leave more room for Hashem.
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  So what does it mean, Shahrina? How do you have Shahrina in this
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  world? Shahrina, the spirit of Hashem
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  with you means that you have extra blessings, that means you
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  have extra Hashem support, that means you have Hashem giving you
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  more happiness inside yourself. You have a certain sense that
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  you're working with a certain loftiness, that you have Hashem
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  with you, guiding you along. People who are living somewhat,
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  I might even say we all ought to agree, living miraculous lives.
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  You're living somewhat A miraculous life when you have
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  that checking out with you. Where do you get that from?
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  If you make yourself more humble, you have more assistance
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  from the shahina. I have more presence of Hashem
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  along with you and that helps you when it comes to talking to
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  others. That helps you when it comes to
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  having peace, having happiness, having a feeling of purpose of
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  life, having success in different areas.
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  All those things come with shahina.
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  You're trying to figure out your children and you have a certain
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  extra sense of how to deal with them.
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  That's Hashem with you. That's Hashem helping you.
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  That assistance comes because you have to shaken out with you.
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  What's the core of that? What brings this assistance in?
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  And that is it's mindset. And I'm humble.
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  I recognize both. I'm not the biggest deal told
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  other people. I also recognize that I'm
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  definitely nothing in the eyes of, in the presence of Hashem,
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  that mindset, we'll allow Hashem to come because I, in a sense,
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  I'm bringing Hashem in. If I'm willing to be that
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  humble, then I'm willing to recognize that God is here
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  'cause he's here anyway. If I recognize he's here, then
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  he'll be here. And when he's going to be here,
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  because I bring him here, then he'll be here for me.
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  All these different ways. And you and I know in our lives
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  we need that actual assistance. When someone says I'm doing
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  this, the Seattle Deshmaya with the help of Hashem, right?
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  You're writing a paper wall trains, you're writing a paper,
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  writing a note, you're writing the top bed summer Dalia BSD.
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  This has become second nature for many, right?
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  What does that mean? It means with the help of
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  Hashem. The help of Hashem is like these
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  little wings that get you from point A to point B.
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  We don't really recognize. It's hard to notice that we're
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  living different kind of lives and the people around us
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  whenever you hear the news and you hear this happened in
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  downtown Brooklyn and this happened over there and it's
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  like you, all the crazy things that go on the news.
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  This happened on the train, this happened there.
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  And you say this office, I know and our community too, things
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  happen. But if I'm guessing, I can't
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  pretty much guarantee if you run the data, the amount of things
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  that happens to the world and things that happen over there
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  and these crazy things and the amount of less things that
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  happens to our people, the amount of miracles that we're
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  living with. And you say to yourself, where
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  is that coming from? It's coming from protection.
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  Where is that? I'll give you even a deeper
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  example. We're all living miraculous
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  lives where we support our families.
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  If you go to people who learn all day and you say, how are
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  they supporting their families? And you go and you dig deep and
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  you find out it's coming from here or it's coming from there,
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  It's coming from some other place, coming from random thing
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  and their wife has a job, all those different things.
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  I'll give you even personally when when I got married to my
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  wife, she she had I fall in love for some reason had this thing
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  that he wants his daughters to go to college to get a degree in
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  therapists in one way or another and I don't really care that
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  much. When I was dating her, she
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  didn't do that didn't matter that much to me.
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  I didn't think of it much, but my father had this thing in his
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  head and he put them to college for this.
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  When I got married, for many years, one of my main sources of
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  support was my wife being a therapist.
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  I had he not set that up. I go to Coleo.
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  The Coleo that I go to pays the honest with you and $800 a
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  month. OK, a month.
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  How much? How far does $800 get you?
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  2 days, three days, maybe a week, $800 a month, right.
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  So they got all this support as well.
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  But if not, I'm going to college and having this degree.
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  And like I said, when I got married, I dated other girls who
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  did not go to college who did not have that plan.
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  I don't know what would have been, and I'm just one example.
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  There are 1,000,000 examples or definitely thousands of people
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  who have this extra help for my sham.
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  What is that? Siata Deshmaya assistance from
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  God. And you've all had it in your
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  way too. When you're in the business
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  world, it may not be as noticeable and maybe even more
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  noticeable. In a certain sense, it's less
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  noticeable because you're working.
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  So when you're working you, it feels like I'm working and money
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  comes in. But in other sense, if you dig a
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  little deeper, it's even more noticeable because the work that
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  we do and then the but how the consummate a lot of times it's
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  kind of surprising and that is all Siya Tadashmaya.
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  That's assistance from Hashem. That is shahina right there,
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  that shahina. And it's inexplicable to
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  recognize how we have this siya tadashmaya.
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  Well, one of the greatest sources of this is our sense of
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  humility. If we have this mindset that I
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  recognize that God exists and I recognize that in His presence I
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  am small, so I make more room for His presence.
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  When I make more room for his presence, he settles in.
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  That's how it works. You know when I'm gonna settle?
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  After the after matanzo, they were told to build the mishkan.
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  What was the purpose of building the mishkan?
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  To bring that shukina into our world.
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  Hashem says Basui miktash. Build me a miktash and I rest
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  among you. I want to be among you.
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  So if you dig deep to that concept, you say, what does that
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  mean? God is everywhere.
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  What does that even mean? That I have to make a Mishkan
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  for Hashem to be among us. He's with us regardless.
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  Yeah. This is like, you know, among us
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  either way. What exactly are these words,
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  right? What does those words mean?
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  The depth of those words is literally the depth of our
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  constants right here. And that is when the Jewish
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  people were told build a Mishkan.
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  What they were told is recognize and you need to bring Hashem.
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  Build a place to bring Hashem into your life.
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  Make room fam. Give him a spot.
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  Recognize you need him by the table, You need him in your
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  room, you need him in your home, you need him in your office.
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  And the way you can bring Hashem into all these places is by
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  making room, fam. How do you make room?
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  By being humble, By recognizing what kind of role he plays.
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  If you don't see how much Hashem fits into your marriage, which
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  means if you don't have the ability to see, you need God to
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  be there and you're humble without him being there, He's
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  not going to come in. And the same thing you should
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  with the office. You think you come into the
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  office, you have your secretary, you have your partner, that
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  other people work for you, you have the whole structure.
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  What is Hashem come in? That's troubling.
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  But if you understand this whole system, it's only going to run
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  with God's help. It's only going to run because I
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  realized, yes, I'm trying and yes, I do my best, but
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  ultimately I will not get that far without his help.
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  If you make room for him, then you're building your own
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  Mishkan. And if you build your own
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  Mishkan, then Aban is telling his son and the Shahina will
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  come in and they'll give you a Seattle Ishmael and help you.
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  They'll assist you. And everything we do in our
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  life, as we mentioned, needs those wings.
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  Without those wings, it can't function.
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  That's point I'm one that Aban is telling his son.
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  The second one, he says you have the glory of God.
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  I'm not sure exactly how to explain it.
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  The last thing he says for today is that you have something
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  called khayel or lambaba, and this is very surprising.
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  What is the definition of the words khayel lambaba?
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  What does it mean? You live in future, you living
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  the next World. The issue is the rabbi is
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  talking to his son about living in this world.
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  How do you tell your son that if you have humility, you have
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  shakina? And if you have that, you're
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  going to have next World life talking about this world.
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  What is definition of world? The words, so I think answers,
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  what do they even mean? He living in the world to come.
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  He living in two feet planted on this ground right here in
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  Brooklyn, NY is definitely is not the world to come.
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  So what do these words even mean?
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  Building up a foundation. So it could mean that you're
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  preparing for the world to come. But his words sound even more
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  direct than that. So this is the reality, the
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  world to come concept, and this is brought down to many
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  Sephardiums and I'm Baha brings down the Khazanisha is his
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  explanation. Every rabbi has their version.
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  If you ever seen certain people who seem to be at great peace
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  with themselves, they're at peace with life.
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  That means they're not edgy, they're not upset all the time.
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  Then I insult all the time. They can just go with the flow.
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  You're not nervous to be around them.
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  You're not scared where you can sing in their presence.
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  You're not afraid that you might have insulted them or maybe you
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  know, you're not afraid that you have to build them up.
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  They're there, they're good, they're fine.
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  And now because in a sense they're nobody rather because
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  they seem unbelievably content, right?
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  This is the road to goal. We all want, we all want to be
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  content. We all want to be really, we
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  think we want to be happy. Of course we want to be happy,
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  but you don't want to be happy based on anything else.
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  You just want to be content. Content is really is the this
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  world version of Olamaba. Olamaba is serenity.
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  Serenity means things just go it's smooth.
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  From your point of view as human being on this earth, if I want
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  to live Kayla ABBA, I want to have the exact same serenity.
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  And serenity includes not getting insulted, not needing to
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  be built up, not, you know, worrying about my ego.
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  Serenity includes not feeling down, right?
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  Not having that sense of depression, not having that
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  sense of drop off. It's the same perfect balance
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  and contentness, and that's the most beautiful level we can
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  have. It doesn't depend on the stock
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  market, it doesn't depend on the news, it doesn't depend on
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  what's going on in the world. It doesn't even depend what
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  people have to say to you. It simply depends on your own
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  mind. That is the balance and the
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  beauty of serenity. And by far it's the number one
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  thing you want. Definitely the number one thing
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  I want, because what it does for you is it gives me, I'm always a
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  person that likes to have balance.
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  I like that sense of balance. If I wake up in the morning and
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  I know my day might be shaky and might be something that's going
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  to be troubling today, I can't function.
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  We all like that. It may be called security and we
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  call it balance, equilibrium, whatever it is, but it's a
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  certain piece and that piece is Kaya Lama BA.
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  How do you get to that piece? He's telling you it's built on
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  the legs and the foundation of this humility.
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  When a person does not need himself to be a big deal, then
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  he's perfectly fine with anything that goes on.
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  If you need to be a big deal, then there's so many things that
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  bother you, right? If you're by a family meal and
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  you need to be something of relevance and they're not
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  talking to you or they're not addressing you, it hurts.
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  It is, is something that's a slight to you.
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  It doesn't make you feel that good.
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  If you're a member of this community, if you're a member of
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  anything. A lot of times we need to be big
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  deals. And if you do that, that that's
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  on your mind. A lot of things drive you crazy.
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  That's one. If you need to be perfectly
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  settled in every way, you need to be very well off a very
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  famous or very something. All those needs create problems.
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  The more needs you have, the more problems you create.
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  And those needs come from arrogance, when a person is
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  humble and they're settled. And if you're settled, you have
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  this shahina, and then you have haila ABBA.
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  If you ever visit a great rabbi, a Godzilla door, what you saw,
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  you met them. You don't know the Torah.
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  I don't know the Torah. The Torah is way among us, way
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  above us. I'm not going to get to the
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  Torah. Right.
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  They give you a blessing. Great.
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  What really you're getting is that you're rubbing off on their
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  shahina. That's what you're doing.
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  You're rubbing off on this and they're giving over to you with
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  Deborah, huh? Their presence of Hashem.
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  That's what they're giving over to you.
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  And when you see on their face talking about a great rabbi,
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  what you see on their face is this piece.
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  That's what you see. You see that serenity, you see
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  that calm. He's not getting agitated, not
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  getting nervous, not getting upset, not being arrogant.
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  You see that on their face. And if you don't see that, then
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  you're not really seeing the greatness.
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  Witnessing real greatness is witnessing this beauty when the
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  people around them are saying everyone's got to leave.
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  The rabbi's needs his time, and the rabbi's sitting there and
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  he's good. Yeah, he doesn't want everyone
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  to leave, but his guys are pushing people out.
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  You've seen that scene. I've seen that scene many times.
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  That's because he's at peace. He's calm.
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  You know, visit Hava Diaz, that's all.
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  Or replying Nevsky and that scene, he's sitting there, he's
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  good. People around them.
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  Maybe they're trying to defend them and trying to kick people
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  out, but this man himself is perfectly at ease.
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  That's serenity. And that is Hail Lama Bag.
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  And the reason it's called, the reason the way it works is that
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  when a person hits that point, that when his time comes after
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  120, he just continues. He's already in a Lama bag.
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  He continues on this road. It's not a new existence.
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  He continues on his moves into the next Rd.
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  That's what it means when you say someone attains eternity.
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  That's what it means when somebody retains Haya Alam about
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  on this world, the world to come on this world.
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  And that is the level we want to reach really.
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  It's the pinnacle of life. Pinnacle of life is not having
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  anything. I'm not talking about spiritual,
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  physical. The pinnacle of life is having
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  this because it makes you always the same, always balanced,
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  always happy, always content. Imagine this in Kha, the joy of
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  not being dependent on anything, not being dependent on what
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  anyone has to say or anyone gives you.
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  You could the same. That is the sign of greatness.
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  Great people, they can have a bad day, they can have even a
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  bad financial day and they remain the same.
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  They could be insulted very severely and you cannot tell on
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  the face at all. That's greatness.
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  It's a very high level, but we can have level degrees of that.
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  How do you get to that? The number one trait that leads
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  to it is this idea of humility, because you bring more of Hashem
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  into your life. And the more you bring Hashem
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  into your life, the more you have the assistance of Hashem,
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  as you told us, and then the more you have.
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  This piece, this piece, this serenity is khaye O lamhaba, and
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  it's a beautiful trait to have. There's so many stories.
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  For example, let's give you an example of emotional finds and
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  those stories are a man whom I just learned.
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  I just found out his son said he finished Shas as I read from his
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  son. So say he finished Shas 200 *
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  200 times. He finished when he was 13 years
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  old. No one did this.
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  I don't want to say they didn't do this.
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  He finished three of the main master taught when he was before
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  bar mitzvah. OK, he by by he knew by heart
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  before bar mitzvah, he knew everything, how Moshe finance.
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  And yet the greatest stories of him are the fact that he carried
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  himself in a sense, in a way, he was always the same where a
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  woman, you know, the classic story, a woman would call him up
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  on Friday afternoon when he's getting older, his son's
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  children started to answer the phone for him and the woman
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  would call up and she'd say, can I speak to the rabbi?
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  Can I speak to the rabbi? I see the rabbi's not feeling so
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  well, guys, I have to speak to him.
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  Really. The rabbit doesn't say, what do
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  you need? She said, I just want to know
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  what time candle lighting is that's you going to watch your
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  financing for. She says, yes, I did.
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  I've been doing this for for many, many years.
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  I think she said 20 years. I've been doing every single
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  Friday. This is the guy's daughter.
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  Daughter was every minute matters.
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  Every second matters. And yet he had I'm sure he
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  answered that phone. No rush, no waste.
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  No, I have to prepare. No, I need this.
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  No, I need to learn be tool to die.
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  He never said the words be tool to die.
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  Never said those words. No great man ever says to
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  another person be told to. They might feel it, it might
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  bother them, but they don't say another person make them feel
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  bad by saying be told to. He carried himself with that
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  beauty. You can recognize the beauty on
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  Sarah, on people's faces. It's maybe hard to discern, but
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  overtime you can tell it. It is this serenity and it's a
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  level we all want to reach. It's what is it rooted on?
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  It's rooted on humility. If you know the kind of humility
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  that man had, if you read the kind of humility hack in
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  everything he did literally, for example, I'll give you one
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  example. It brings this in this book, it
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  says that he and Ryakum Kamenowski, 2 with leading
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  rabbis and the Jewish roads and the age and 80s, especially in
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  the Asian Rd. They were leaving a party and
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  they were getting into a car and somewhat offered to drive them.
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  So they were getting into the car together.
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  He would take one to one spot in New York, another one to another
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  spot in Brooklyn, and they were debating before they got into
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  the car. We'll go first.
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  What's the debate? Who goes first?
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  Is that it? What could be the debate?
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  So one way we're say this is the the driver.
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  The debate was as follows. Who's in the front?
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  OK, very nice. They want to be humble.
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  No, the debate was deeper. They said the debate was like
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  this. Let me see if I got it right.
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  They said we were debating who's going to be dropped off the
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  first. Why?
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  Doesn't matter. We wanted to make sure the one
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  who gets dropped off 1st is it one that sits in the back.
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  Why? Because if the guy who got was
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  this in the front gets out the first, then the second seat look
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  like the driver in the chauffeur.
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  You didn't offer to be a chauffeur.
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  We want to make it look like a chauffeur.
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  You're a nice guy giving us a ride.
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  Therefore we want to make sure that the person who's getting
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  dropped off 2nd sits in the front room.
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  All right, now, the depth of that mindset of people who
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  easily were probably 10 times the level of Torah to this
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  individual, who I'm sure this individual would have paid for
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  the opportunity to drive them. That scene of driving these two
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  people, who gets the opportunity?
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  Yeah, they didn't think like that.
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  They didn't think down that road.
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  They throw it down a humble road.
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  And the reality is that is the proper mindset.
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  I know it's very impressive. I know it's extremely, very cool
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  and incredible, and you don't expect it to people.
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  That is the real mindset they were supposed to have.
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  Humility is required. It's not a hridosh, it's
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  required because who are we to believe anything but what God
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  gave us? We should be humble.
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  What's impressive about these people is that they live life
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  the right way, not above the right way, the right way.
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  And the result was that ease and that calm and that serenity and
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  they leave the Llama Bah. So when their time came, they
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  just went and they continued on the road.
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  They already there. They were in the world to come
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  ready. They just continue going.
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  And for all of us besides, the Sham would be the same way.
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  If we have this surrounding in this piece, we'll just continue
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  and we'll just move into the world to come and say, OK, I'm
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  here ready. I'm trying to continue going.
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  That's Khayel Lamaba on this earth.
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  Get what stuff it is.