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Leonard Williams talks Facing Philip Rivers this Sunday, Seahawks Hunt for NFC #1 Seed, Pros & Cons of a Hybrid D-lineman, His Anime Fandom · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: All right, y'all, you know what time of day. It's me.
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  Speaker 1: It's Kim Jordan. It's off here songs.
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  Speaker 2: It's off the edge of the podcast of Me, your host,
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  Speaker 2: Kim Jordan. I'm super excited to bring in one of
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  Speaker 2: my big dogs. Actually he's a big cat, but we'll
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  Speaker 2: get into more of that. Because he's a first round pick,
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  Speaker 2: top top ten at number like what six or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. Man, it's been the Pro Bowls, you know
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  Speaker 2: this this man is over fifty sacks. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: sitting at like sixty change.
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  Speaker 1: You know. If I'm late, I'm wrong, and I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I'm late.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this guy has a ton of potential.
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  Speaker 2: He shows a year or year out formerly of the
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  Speaker 2: big you know, of the Pac ten, now they're in
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  Speaker 2: the Big something or other.
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  Speaker 1: They left, you know, went to USC so they left
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  Speaker 1: cal behind. Now we're at the ACC.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever that is. It's my dog, big cat. Leonard Williams
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  Speaker 2: aka Leo Leo.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, baby up man? Thanks for having me?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, bro, just over the years, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: respects for your game. I met you when you was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a young cub and now you big Leo
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  Speaker 2: the lion type.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a long time, man.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation, presented
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  Speaker 2: by Toyota.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go places.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Before I even get into football, I just want
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  Speaker 2: to start off, like, how did you get in the cards?
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  Speaker 1: Trading cards? You know, it was a cash a smash.
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  Speaker 2: The only other football player that I know that has
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  Speaker 2: a big, big trading card collection is that guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a big part of it, actually. But
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  Speaker 4: I was collecting Pokemon cards when I was young. My
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  Speaker 4: cousin was in like Pokemon tournaments. He was like playing competitively.
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  Speaker 4: But at the time when I was young, I was
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  Speaker 4: just into like the shiny cards. I was collecting them,
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  Speaker 4: keeping them my binders and stuff like that. And then
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  Speaker 4: around COVID time, I found out, you know how expensive
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  Speaker 4: like a shiny Charsar was going for. And then I
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  Speaker 4: went back home. Yeah, it was crazy first edition. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, shiny chars Aar was going for a lot.
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  Speaker 4: And then I went home and found some of my
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  Speaker 4: old buying. I didn't have much in there, you know,
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  Speaker 4: but I still have a few things that were worth
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  Speaker 4: some stuff. And it kind of got me back into collecting,
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  Speaker 4: and once my little brother found out that I was
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  Speaker 4: collecting Pokemon cards, he introduced me to magic to gathering,
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  Speaker 4: and then that's when I got really big into cards
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  Speaker 4: because magic, you know, it came from collecting to playing,
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  Speaker 4: and that's when I really got competitive with it. And
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  Speaker 4: then once I got into it, Cashu's Marsh actually built
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  Speaker 4: me one of my first decks, which is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: See, I don't know if I'm ever gonna get get.
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  Speaker 3: To magic, but it's pretty complicated, bro, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Seen I said, Bro, that don't look like a kid's game.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's a pro man game right there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I even try to introduce it to my girl and
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  Speaker 4: she was just like, you know, it sounds like you're
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  Speaker 4: speaking a different language.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm good.
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  Speaker 2: You got your thing and I got my thing. Thanks,
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  Speaker 2: mab oh Man. All right, well shoot, you know we
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  Speaker 2: can definitely get back to it. Just think about looking
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  Speaker 2: around the league this week. Before I asked you to
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  Speaker 2: get on here, you know, I didn't think it would
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  Speaker 2: have this question here. Now we got Philip Rivers, you know,
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  Speaker 2: will possibly sign it with gotta ask.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what's it like?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sure, younger years, you gotta you gotta face
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  Speaker 2: him over it at the Chargers.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're my first time facing them actually really yeah,
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  Speaker 4: if he if he takes him if yeah, if he
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  Speaker 4: if he plays, yeah, I take the one.
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  Speaker 1: I take the one that sits in the pocket versus
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  Speaker 1: one that rolls out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, as a pass rusher, I mean chase. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, these modern day quarterbacks are sometimes hard to
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  Speaker 4: keep in the pocket if you can't run as a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback these days, you know, it's hard to get a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback that's running pretty much. And you know, I much
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  Speaker 4: rather have a guy that's sitting in the pocket.
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  Speaker 3: Pocket.
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  Speaker 4: We got, you know, a guy's rushing on our defense
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  Speaker 4: right now, and you know we're looking forward to getting
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  Speaker 4: to formidable front.
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  Speaker 1: You Byron Murphy, you got to tank lords.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, I said, yo, bro, like y'all just
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  Speaker 2: created an all star staff and less than look.
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  Speaker 3: Half a season.
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  Speaker 4: I remember playing against Law when I was on the Giants,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, he used to terrorize our off's when
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  Speaker 4: I was when he was with the Cowboys, and now
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  Speaker 4: being paired with him is a blessing. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 4: he's a vet. I think he's one year you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the league more than me, but just being able
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  Speaker 4: to play off of a guy like that. He's just
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  Speaker 4: a ball hawk, Like he's just so good at going
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  Speaker 4: for the ball. I mean, I think like he scored
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  Speaker 4: two touchdowns this year. He's been getting the ball out
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  Speaker 4: every week for some interceptions, like all types of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Man, He's he's an animal.
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  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean just just let's just think this
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  Speaker 2: out though. You on the couch one day, are you
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  Speaker 2: thirty nine, forty forty one, forty forty four years old
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  Speaker 2: and somebody calls you like, hey, we got this check
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: Are you coming to get a check at defensive end?
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  Speaker 3: I mean at that point, I don't know, forty four,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It depends on how I'm living. Man.
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  Speaker 3: I think if I'm out of the league for you know.
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  Speaker 4: That long, and I'm already fine during my retirement, man,
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  Speaker 4: I think I'd be all right. Man. I think I
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  Speaker 4: got my family, I got my hobbies, I got my
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  Speaker 4: other inter so outside of football at that point. Yeah, don't
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  Speaker 4: get me wrong, I'm gonna ride this until the wills
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  Speaker 4: fall off. I mean, your eleven runner, I still feel
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  Speaker 4: like I got some years of left in me. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of years left in me. But I think once
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  Speaker 4: I'm done, I'm done, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: But I finally, if the words I'm done leave my lips,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even looking back.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, can we got this ten million for you? That's nice?
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  Speaker 1: Keep it brother, Hey yeah, right, God is good. His
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  Speaker 1: body is broken.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: So when we think about when we think about just
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  Speaker 2: that landscape, right uh, you guys are sort of sort
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  Speaker 2: of fighting at the top of your division right now.
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  Speaker 1: You got a major game coming in is there?
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  Speaker 2: Min?
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  Speaker 3: Is there?
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  Speaker 2: Mindset chef, And it's almost like it's a playoff game.
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  Speaker 2: You got top of vision, top of their division opponent
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  Speaker 2: Indiapolis Coach, You guys are fighting for the top of
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  Speaker 2: your division.
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  Speaker 1: Where does that take you?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I would say what I love about
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  Speaker 4: this team so much from the start as we've been
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  Speaker 4: just taking it one week at a time, and I
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  Speaker 4: feel like that's still been the message lately. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we just came up of our tenth win of the season,
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  Speaker 4: still got four games left, We're in pretty much the
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  Speaker 4: fourth quarter of the regular season, and you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: obviously playoffs are in the back of our minds. But
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  Speaker 4: I think what's gotten to this point is taking it
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  Speaker 4: week at a time, just you know, focusing on our
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  Speaker 4: opponent this week. You know, it's easier said than done.
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  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, but I think our our team
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  Speaker 4: has done a great job of like honing in. I
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  Speaker 4: think we have a great combination of veterans and young
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  Speaker 4: guys that are you know, helping us stay focused on
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  Speaker 4: the mission. And right now it's that's the Colts. We
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  Speaker 4: don't want to think too far in advance and start
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  Speaker 4: thinking about playoffs and overlook the mission ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you said, you know last week, you know,
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  Speaker 2: not focusing on it last week or focused on this week,
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  Speaker 2: because y'all beat the hell out the Falcons. I just like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you just glance off and if there's one
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  Speaker 2: team I despise, it's the Falcons.
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  Speaker 1: I said, Oh so, yeah, whooped that ass.
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  Speaker 3: We took care of that for you, We took care
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  Speaker 3: of just took care of one for us.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when I think about you know, you're fighting
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  Speaker 2: for that number one first place, that really puts you
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  Speaker 2: in the number one seed. Then you get a bye week,
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  Speaker 2: bye week versus playing in a wild card homefol homefield
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  Speaker 2: advantage versus n You know, it's it's if you number two,
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  Speaker 2: guess what you playing. You play in the first round,
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  Speaker 2: number one, you get that week off. That's that's crucial
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  Speaker 2: for a playoff spot. So these last four games super
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  Speaker 2: crucial for you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that'd be that's that's really crucial.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're looking forward to playing the Rams obviously
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  Speaker 4: to to clinch that that bye week, and you know
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  Speaker 4: that advantage, all those advantage that.
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  Speaker 3: You just talked about.
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  Speaker 4: But also you know, we didn't play our best ball
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  Speaker 4: the last time we played them, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they still beat us by just a field goal. So
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  Speaker 4: I think our team is hungry. We're looking forward to
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  Speaker 4: playing them next week on Thursday Night football. And also,
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  Speaker 4: speaking of all those advantages that we just talked about,
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  Speaker 4: if we clinched that win, we've we're pretty We've had
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  Speaker 4: a pretty banged up team. You know, all teams are
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  Speaker 4: pretty banged up at this point in the season, and
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  Speaker 4: to be able to have that advantage of resting a
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  Speaker 4: week one of the playoffs, it would be huge.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so, so do you do you sort of
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  Speaker 2: watch what the Rams are doing right now? Are you
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  Speaker 2: are you paying attention to where they're at.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm paying attention to all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And it feels amazing because I've been in a lot
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  Speaker 4: of years and and you know, I'm on my year
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  Speaker 4: eleven right now, and I've only been to the playoffs once.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a blessing to be in this position right
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  Speaker 4: now where you know every game matters, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: we talk about playing meaningful football in December and how
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  Speaker 4: you know I've been on teams before where we're counting
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  Speaker 4: down the days by this time of year too to
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  Speaker 4: end the season, because you know, coaching staff is probably gone.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you probably got two wins, you're not going
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  Speaker 4: to the playoffs. Playing in miserable weather, it's like you're
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  Speaker 4: not really playing for much, fighting for much, and right now,
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  Speaker 4: you know everything's ahead of us. So the season feels
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  Speaker 4: like it went by super fast and.
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  Speaker 3: It's been really fun and exciting.
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  Speaker 2: The play man on the flip side, bro, we won
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  Speaker 2: three games this year. I'm like, this is the first
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  Speaker 2: time my career where i haven't been playing meaning for
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  Speaker 2: football in December. I'm like, all right, well, now I'm
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  Speaker 2: playing for me and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm playing for mine. Yea different mentality.
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  Speaker 2: It's sort of surreal in terms of a team sport
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  Speaker 2: because you're like, all right, well, like we got to
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  Speaker 2: put our best foot forward, so no matter what we do,
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  Speaker 2: even if we went out, we can't go anywhere with it.
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  Speaker 2: So now I got to play my best football for
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  Speaker 2: my next opportunity, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: That may be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's interesting. That's you know, we're joking
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  Speaker 4: about it. It's not funny because you're in this position hurt.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: I already had my bottle tequila and I found the
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  Speaker 1: depth of.
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  Speaker 4: It and I said, but I'm telling you I've been
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  Speaker 4: in that position before. And it's like we were joking
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  Speaker 4: about it the other day on our team because I
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  Speaker 4: was like, man, when I was on the Giants, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when we were bringing up the huddle before the game,
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  Speaker 4: the one thing we can say to get guys motivated
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  Speaker 4: to play was play for that name on your back.
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  Speaker 4: Like at this point of the season, when coaching statisfied
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  Speaker 4: you're not going through the playoffs, that's like pretty much
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  Speaker 4: the only thing you can represent this point is the
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  Speaker 4: name on your back.
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  Speaker 2: When they got built in excuses of why oh he
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: didn't give us all because he wasn't playing for anything. No,
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  Speaker 2: my last name says, there's a standard exactly. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about y'all, but I gotta go get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when y'all turn that tape on, you're gonna see
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  Speaker 4: the same player regardless, regardless.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, now I gotta go harder because you like
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  Speaker 1: to lose.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on the field. They was like, bro, like how
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  Speaker 2: many more years ago? Keep going, why are you going
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  Speaker 2: like this? I'm like, nah, now you gonna see me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking no reason, bro, what about what about you?
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  Speaker 2: You're going against the office alignment with the in fact,
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  Speaker 2: one of your office alignment had. When I think the
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  Speaker 2: bubble helmets on during the game, what the little the
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  Speaker 2: bubble helmets, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, the little Oh yeah, the guardian helmets.
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  Speaker 3: Guardian cat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Guardian cattle. I see him in practice.
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  Speaker 2: But when I see an office alignment or whoever with
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  Speaker 2: the guardian cap but in the game, doesn't do anything
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  Speaker 2: to you, because it does something for me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like speed of power. I know what he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to protect.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much like seeing somebody, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if I see somebody with a bunch of tape on
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  Speaker 4: their wrists. I'm like, Okay, maybe their rists is a
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  Speaker 4: little banged up here somebody exactly. So I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to attack that risk like small things like that.
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  Speaker 4: So you're right, like, but honestly, I mean, I respect
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  Speaker 4: it taking care of your brain health and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: but uh, it does look a little funny. I mean,
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: your head looks extra big out there.
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  Speaker 2: Extra big. My daughter Cedric Wilson over Miami had that
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  Speaker 2: thing on. I said, Bro, I know you lean into
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  Speaker 2: the left.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we all have it in practice, but
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  Speaker 4: to see it in the game, it's kind of funny,
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  Speaker 4: no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what has to change. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: get this guardian cap off. I'm trying to be the fastest,
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  Speaker 2: lightest possible. But I get why I don't even take
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  Speaker 2: during games. Bro, I don't believe in it, Like I'm
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: built off of showing no weakness.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I see, I see you must come
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  Speaker 3: from that old school era. Man. I don't take my
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  Speaker 3: ankles or nothing like barely risk tape.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a flex tape if if I got
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: a sprain ankle, Like nah, I don't even want that
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  Speaker 2: for real, for real?
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: How do you? How do you? How do you like
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  Speaker 1: the team? How's the locker room?
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  Speaker 3: Amazing?
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  Speaker 4: Man, It's it's really been a special Like not even
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: to try to blow gas or anything like that. Like
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: I've been in the league long enough, I've seen so
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  Speaker 4: many different locker rooms, even in the same on the
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  Speaker 4: same team, you know, I've been on you know, every year.
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  Speaker 4: We said, we say this, like even if you have
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  Speaker 4: the same coaching staff, same players coming back, it's a
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  Speaker 4: new locker room every year, regardless of where you're at.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just really special here right now. I think
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  Speaker 4: we're just all bought in to the mission. We're bought
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  Speaker 4: into like working hard. I think like because we work
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  Speaker 4: so hard and prepare so hard, we're going into games
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  Speaker 4: with just so much belief. And you know, even like
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: an example of that is like, you know, when when
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: stuff goes bad, like when momentum is not swinging our
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  Speaker 4: way in the game, like I don't see a single person,
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel the energy crack like anything like that
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  Speaker 4: on the sideline. And I've been on teams where you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're losing a lot. We may have a team, we
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  Speaker 4: may have a lead on a team in one of
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  Speaker 4: these games, but then as soon as the momentum shifts,
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  Speaker 4: you could feel the belief in the team kind of
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  Speaker 4: just just flatten out, like leave the building and on
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  Speaker 4: teams that you know are used to losing pretty much,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, it's not like that here, and this
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  Speaker 4: is just really special. We're having fun, We're shadow boxing
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  Speaker 4: in the locker room, we're playing cards on the plane rides,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, having fun with the coaches. The coaches
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  Speaker 4: are messing well with the players. It's just it's a
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  Speaker 4: really special environment.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say, in the way y'all play, it looks like
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  Speaker 2: it outside looking in. I mean, you've been on the Giant,
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  Speaker 2: So before you got to Seattle, would you said this
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  Speaker 2: is one of the better teams you've been on?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say I would say this is probably
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  Speaker 4: the best team I've been a part of. I play
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  Speaker 4: with some great players, possible Hall of Fame players, play
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: with some great coaches. You know, I'm not trying to
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: knock anywhere I've been, but this is I would say,
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: like one of the best teams because we're good in
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: all phases. We have a great special teams, we have
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: great offense, great defense, I've been a part of some
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: great defense where sometimes we're on the sideline, we get
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: a three play breather and we got to go right
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: back out there because the offense isn't getting it done.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Whereas here, you know, we're come out the field and
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: we have all the complimentary football, colimentary football at its finest, fine,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: and defense is flying around. I mean, I mean we're
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: competing to be like the headhunters on the on the defense,
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: and it's like there's so many guys to compete with
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: on every level.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: It's like our.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Linebacker, secondary, d line, It's like we're competing with a
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: lot of guys and it's it's pretty it's pushing us
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: to be so great.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: You six five, You got Reek Woodland over there.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: At six four, You got to corner at six four
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: out there flying around? What they hell like, how's this
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: juggernaut out here moving that fast? But I mean that's man,
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: that's I know, it's got to be an exciting time
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: for you. Just again, I don't even want to harp
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: on it, but going from the Giants to the Seahawks,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: that trade that happened, Bro, I was like, ain't no way,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Like I'm all about loyalty and I've only been with
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: one team, so I'm just how is it moving?
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: How is it like? What has that trade done for
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you in your career?
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: You talk about the locker room vibes, you know, when
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: you were on losing teams versus now you're walking with
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: utmost confidence. How was that transition because then you you know,
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: last year Pro Bowl. Now we know you as Leo
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: the multiple Pro bowler. You know that you are set
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: for another Pro Bowl type season this year.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: But what was that? What was that trade like for you?
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would say it's definitely interesting because, like
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: you said, I'm a loyal person too. When I'm when
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: I'm on a team, regardless of we're doing bad or not,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, even if we're doing bad, I'm like, Okay,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: I want to be here to help turned around. I
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: want to be here to be like, Okay, we came
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: from the bottom, now we're here type of thing.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, you know, I'm a loyal dude, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: you know at the time it was tough to get traded,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: but I think it was for the better of both sides,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: you know. I think they were in a rebuilding phase.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: They needed to like look forward to the future. And
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I think at the time, the Seahawks were number one
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: in the division when Pete traded for me, and they
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: were trying to make a push for the playoffs, which
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: we didn't end up going. But I think it was
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: just a blessing for me to just have a fresh start,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: new home. We got Mike McDonald pretty much right after.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I've only played eight games here, and then they signed
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: me right after they signed Mike McDonald, And you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I got to meet Mike a little bit and just
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: realized that he was a defensive genius, defensive guru, just
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: a defensive minded guy. So I'm just like, Okay, it's obviously,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: you know, as a defensive player, it's special to have
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: a head coach who cares about the defense so much.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: And I mean, I would just say, like, it's been
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: a long time coming. You know, I've been in the
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: league for a long time and I've been losing for
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: a long time, so it feels like, you know, all
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: that hard work, effort, just dedication to this game, to
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: the league is fun on the paying off.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Many Yeah, that's like I said so far to here,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: especially when you love to hear when players actually like
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: really ride for their coach, you know, like yeah, and
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: they have a head coach that actually loves a defense
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: a completely different feel.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Which one do you prefer?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Because I'm sort of I'm sort of on the fence.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm actually okay with my head coach. Don't
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: give a damn about us, like you know, like only
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: socials when.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: We mess up.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because like sometimes it is tough that like he's
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: in the defensive meeting room all the time because I'm like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: all right here, man, man watching all the time, choices. Yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like he values me
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: as one of the top players on the team. I'm
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: one of the top players on the defense, and uh,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: he puts me in positions to be great, and you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: he pushed me in positions to lead as well. And uh,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: it's definitely a lot of mutual respect. I respect the
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: hell out of Mic, no doubt.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I say, look, you gotta have your leaders actually lead.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It's hard to lead when you're like you're like, oh, hey, man, dude,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: it's just lead by lead by your words. Now, it's
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: got to be by by walk, It got to be
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: by all all walks of life.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle's a big place too. I mean New York. Look,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you know New Orleans.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: It takes you thirty minutes to drive around, like the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: entire city Seattle. Seattle sort of big family.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Had a little sleepy town though. I would say that's
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: a big difference too. Like when I was in New York,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: it was like, you know, we were close, we had
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: close teammates and stuff that we like went out all
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: the time and hung out at restaurants and went to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: shows and live shows and plays and all that type
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: of stuff. Whereas here, like we're really close in the building,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: but it's just a sleepy city. It's like it's dark
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: all the time. It's rainy as gloomy, gloomy, but we're
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: not really hanging out outside of football that much. Besides, tonight,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: we're about to go see my boy Daved Chappelle.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: That's man, that's that sounds fire like said, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: that's one of the best comedians of all times. The
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Chappelle show alone is gonna like stay in the anmals
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: of time of the craziness that set up everything else.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back now. I mean, now you labeled
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a d you know, your defensive end. You've started off
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: as a big D tackle defensive end. You know, at
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: this point you can probably play outside linebacker. I've gone
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: from D been labeled DT for a second. I said,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not that, you know, and now I think I
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: just got labeled OLB for the first time in my career.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, look at me, hybrid Titan, Like, how do
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you how do you feel like being able to be
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: able to play so many different positions?
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I love being able to be a hybrid.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's what's been able to you know, It's
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: what stood out about me during the draft. It's what's
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: been able to you know. I've been able to play
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: all up and down the line. Coaches like to put
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: me like over the tackle sometimes to help stop the
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: run or get certain pass rush ops, same vice versa.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: On the inside.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: But uh, you know what that comes hard stuff too,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Like I think I'm personally a D tackle. Actually, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: play most of my snaps at three technique. Yeah, most
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: of my rushes are from the three technique. I'm getting
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: double team like a three technique. I'm not rushing out
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: here on the edge like a guy like Miles Garrett.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: T J. Watt type of guy.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I'm more of a three technique Russian, you know, So,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: like sometimes it's kind of a hard balance because I
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: want to be a hybrid. I want to be able
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: to help my team and play along the line, play
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you know, play the piano down the line, but personally.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: But then sometimes it hurts when pro bo votes happen
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: because like even this year, like the first week of voting,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: they had me listed as a d N and my
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: stats don't really quite align with.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: D ns that.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but when you put me as a d tackle,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, top three, top five d tackle when
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: it comes to the three technique positions, So you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I eventually got that switched over, luckily, so they have
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: me listed as a detach tackle.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll tell you that that that that one.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Little thin little it makes a difference, man.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Makes a huge difference from guys that are rushing from
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: that nine SEVENS versus four I three I two I.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we are not the same.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: three fifteen, you know, I'm I'm plugging gaps, playing double
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: teams in the inside. Yeah, rushing from the three technique spot,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I'm not just blazing on the on the edge, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: it's different.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Those guys get a lot more sacks.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I'd be remissing. We look, we talked about you being
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: from USC. Take it back to the college days. How
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: do you feel about you know that that packed twelve,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: packed with PAC ten?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I was the last pack ten.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: So PAC twelve? Are you twelve? When I was?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so PAC twelve for you? Now they're in
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the Big ten, big big ten? Like that's what ce see?
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Is it twelve?
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know? You tell me there's two of them.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I know, I know cows in the a CC.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: You know, you know USC and U c l A
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: love over to the Big ten. So I'm not sure
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: that makes it big twelve.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, big twelve is is a different conference? Both of
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: them can't count. But yeah, uh so you were in
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the Big ten? Like how is it?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Does it?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Does it a fa? The way you look at it?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Like USC used to be a part of the West Coast.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah you're opponent and now you ever, you're traveling towards Ohio,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Ohio State, and you're having to go play
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Michigan or whatever that is. How do you how do
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: you feel about it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely interesting to make a big move
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: like that. Right away.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I just knew we were gonna have to build in
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the trenches if we're gonna go play over there in
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the Big Turn. They got the big country, strong boys
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: on the Yeah. And we're used to playing, you know
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: that wide open offenses, you know, like Oregon and stuff
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: On the West Office, the line that can move, Yeah, exactly.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: So you know, being on the you know, playing in
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the part twelve, we were used to being more speed oriented,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: more skill oriented, versus like being in the Big ten.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: You gotta gotta be a little slower, lay bigger.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I feel like we've been doing
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: decent this year. You know, besides that lost to Illinois,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: there's been a few, you know, losses that you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I wish we could have got back. But overall, I
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: think we're we're grown in the right direction.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, are you tracking them? Look, I'm not.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I tracked my team relatively, like like I monitor room
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: until we lose about three, and then I'm like.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Once we lose three, I'm like damp saying, So, I mean,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I'm so far removed at this point. I've been away
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: from USC for eleven years. I want to go back
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: at some point. I've been talking to them. We do
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: this thing where they bring back you know, the old
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: alum and old you know, we run the guys out
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: of the tunnel and stuff like that. So I'm looking
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: forward to doing that at some point, maybe next year
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: if I get the bye week that aligns with it.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I keep track a little bit. But like
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: you said, once we once we lose and we're like
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: out of the playoffs or something, it's kind of it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: kind of hard to follow.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: No doubt. So you are you in or out on
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: this Lincoln Riley era? You're in?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You got to be in.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Our receiver, you know, we've got like a top five
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: receiver right now. Quarterbacks pretty good. Yeah, I don't know
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: too much us besides us.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Look, cal just got got a new head coach in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Tash Lupoy, who played at Cal back.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: In the day.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm all excited now, Like I'm like, I'm all
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: back in now, I said, Tosh lu Boy back, we
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: got we got one of the big greats. Okay, we
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: got a Calbert being a calber again. You know, we
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: got Robberia as a GM. I said, I said, we
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: might be a real you know, we might be putting
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it together.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: YEA, Now I don't.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I still can't sit right there. We're in the a CC.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: We're a West.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Coast, a Pacific north West Coast teams Oakland area, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: we we played people like Duke.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is this whole nil thing. I mean,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I understand it and respected. I was a broke kid
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: in college and I went to USC.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to hear that. I don't believe you.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: It was after Reggie Bush though they were on a
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: tight leash at that point. Everybody was like, I know
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you took money, yes, but I'm like even I'm even
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: even hearing a teams are pulling out of bowl games
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: and stuff right now. So it's like, you see that
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of funny stuff happening in college football
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, huh.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame was like, you know what, I still like,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I still don't understand how Notre Dame USC is a
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: rival situation. I want to ask that it'd be yeah,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: but like Notre Dame pulls out a bowl game I'm like, yo,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: for if you're.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: A senior and listen, your last year, you're gonna pull
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: out a.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Bowl game like I wanted to playing bowl games, like
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: we fought for that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I don't college nothing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Man, you see, you see the message is that s
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: posed to teach anybody something like, yo, it's okay, like
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you didn't make it, Okay, go to a bowl game
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and show out.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: That's that's some of the last film kids are going
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: to have. Not even makes it to the league.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: And plus those are like core memories I think, as yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: like you said, nobody makes it. Not everybody makes it
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: to the league, and like I mean, those are still
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: to this day for me, core memories of going to
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: bowl games and the city taking care of the team
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: and doing all the events and shows and stuff like
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: that with the team, and you know, your last little
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: you know, chance to show scouts what you have as
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: a senior.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: You know, no doubt.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: That's like, that's like, that's like guys often now the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. If I get that invite, I'm in there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But I also, you know, maybe maybe it was me.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I also just thought like I was better than everybody,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: So I was like now I'm gonna put this on display.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: You know college, when you when you top tier, you
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: know you top tier and you're like, bro, I don't
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: care who's in front of me.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Come get some work.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: And not built the same man man.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: You know, and I get it too, Like if you
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: if you supposed to be a locked in top ten,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you know what I can understand protecting the investment. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: thought I was locked in top fifteen. I slid twenty four.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: So oh well, you know they say they say it
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: don't matter where you get drafted. I think that's a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: that's a sham. But let's say it does. It always
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: matters where you get draft, Like that's that's people that
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: haven't got drafted, or say that everybody has opportunity.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Sure you can get an opportunity, but if you're a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: first rounder, your team wants you to succeed.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your team wants you to prove like, hey, this
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: is the guy that I chose, looking him work.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Now you have to do all the work, but you're getting.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: More chances than that fifth round whatever, sixth round defensive
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: been in the same position.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Like that label kind of stays with you throughout your
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: career that you were a first rounder. Even when it
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: comes to contract negotiations, it's like, you know, once you
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: become a first rounder, your contracts is just going to
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: be in a different bracker than guys who are you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: third fourth or lower.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, immediately like, hey, like we we like
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: we like paying our guys to show loyalty towards you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: are not only our fan base, but our players as well.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I think it goes hand in hand. But like I said,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: this nil landscape is changing, it's changed.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I found out I found out a receiver in Ohio
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: State is getting paid more than Jackson Smith this year,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: and I was like, it's kind of crazy.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: No, that's wild. Yeah, he's going crazy.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: NFL the league is getting paid less than in college with.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Man, hey, god is good the money on right there.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I mean that that that alone man to be to
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: be in college and not have to worry about like
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: picking up a job or two, it would have been nice,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: really nice. I don't know if I would have ended
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: up in the league, though you would gave you would
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: have gave me four million dollars as an eighteen year
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: old bro. That would have changed everything. But like you,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I remember what I was five hundred twenty five hundred.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I was bowling.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, you know if you clear, you clear?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Rent was like a band in the bay, you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: so that's a band out. It was only getting a
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: band in. So I had I had a cop a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: second job. At one point, I had two real jobs.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I was so I was a peer advisor as well
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: as a as a security bouncer.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, I mean broy them.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Clubs, them clubes paying like twenty five dollars cash. You
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, minimum nine hours. I said, yeah,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: we'll be here in off season. Don worry about a trail,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: no paper trails, which I'm sure he got fire for that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But hey, we was we was working, working, But I
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: mean we were trapping in college, man for sure. Man,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: just hey, try to thunk this one now. And now
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the boys is out there making that money on damn
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: damn a rent? They paying condos?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: About that?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: It's hey, it's living a dream.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Uh. The last couple of questions I have for you,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I messed up and talked about trading cards.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But does that mean you an anime guy? And if so,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: what you watch it?
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I am into anime too. My favorite anime I
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: think of all time.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Might be don't you do it? No.
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  Speaker 4: One Piece is up there, It's in my top three,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: but I think my number one is Attack on tight End. Okay,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: the story, the storyline, character development, all that type of stuff.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Bring me Levi Ackerman. Yeah, yeah, I'm good with it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I see I look, bro like I'm I'm I'm here
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: for anything with hands.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: You don't like you don't like one pieceuf, bro, come.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: On, my only my only problem is the anime. And
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to start, One Piece is so trash.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It's old, right, I mean I would rather watch dragon
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Ball back in the Gap than One Piece, Like it's
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: like it was not it was like it's like it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like South Park level animation in the beginning, and the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: storyline is so mid until.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It is so dragged out.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: That's all these all these filler episodes, like.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of felling when people right.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Now though, sure, bro, the the legend goes, you have
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to watch like two hundred episodes before it gets good.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Kiss my one fight last three seasons.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: But you know what, I used to run home to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: dragon Ball Z and that used to keep me off
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the edge of my seat.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like, no, I gotta go see him. He about to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: go to work on freezer. You about to fight sale,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: He about to fight boo.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: You've never said that one time about one piece And
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: for the first couple of hundred episodes.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Now that he's on like year five, I'm like, yo,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's too late.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I'm out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I'm out. Yeah, absolutely, you know, uh.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I've got kids, So like now they just started watching
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: my reincarnated life as a slime.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: These jokers are hooked.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know that one.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that as long as there's hands,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I'm about it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So we're watching together, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I could care less if it's rocky, if it's animation, like.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Is another one of my favorite two actual The first
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: is short. It's short, but it's to the point.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: The first season.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: I like both.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Hell, the second season, I can get you. It's like
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: it's slowed down. He becomes like a farmer stuff. But
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: it's like the whole, like the source of plowshare story.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I like, no, I see, I'm not here for that.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: The first season, I said, oh, I said, I can't
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: wait for the second season. Putting hands on people. He
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: think he baki himas switched up. Now we all interpret
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: like this life aspect of like being better. No, I'm out.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm out.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Hey if I would, if I wanted you to be introspected,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I go pick up a Paul Quayler book. You know
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like man, just turning the alchemist out here.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: But so I way deep in animal. Yeah, give me
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: your top three you said it was.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: I would say attack on Titan one, pieces number two
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: and then just because of nostalgia and kind of what
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: got me into it is No. No, I know, I
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: know is a little mainstream, but I feel like it's
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: mainstream for a reason. It's it's legit.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm okay with mainstream. I started off. I started
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: off with Gunnam Wing back in the Gap.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like my older cousins watching it,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I said, oh, dang, they fighting in space.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I need that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as they got hands. I'm not here
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: to argue. Man, Like I said, I appreciate. I appreciate you.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: You do you have a kid coming?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, we're expecting in March.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I see I seen that on I g
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I said, day said, boy just got married.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I said, okay, grow up. But you know I finally
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: made it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, congratulations, I'm not eve gonna ask if it's
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a boy a girl yet.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pray as a boy. We're not going
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: to find out. Actually, so yeah, okay, Bakers Born, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: love it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: All you can do is pray for play for a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: healthy kid. I needed.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I needed to know my first one. I was like, yo,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: moment she was prayed, I said, Yo, what can we
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: get this blood test? Like I need to know, I said, boy,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I need to know it's a boy. Right once, we
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: had a boy. The next three after that, I was like, yo, whatever,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: as long as God bless them with health. Like I'm
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: not tripping.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I got four. I got one boy, and then I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, man, make men.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: The first yeah, girls.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And I got more.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I got more love than I've ever needed. Bro, I said,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: every every man deserves a girl. But yeah, sure, what
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: did I doss?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Big big blessed?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you stopping by the pod.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: It's nothing, nothing but but hopefully positive going into this
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: this uh playoffs for you. I can't you know, I
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: only want Black and Gold win a Super Bowl. So
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I can't say you do that, but I'm gonna.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Wish you well.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you man.
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  Speaker 2: grab it for the sun because he's reaching for the stars.
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