Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Highlights for Curtis and Larry
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, glory, hallelujah, I need to give a shout out
- 0:04Speaker 1: to Dr. Gil Lederman.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Larry, Natalie, I had no voice on Saturday and Sunday,
- 0:11Speaker 2: so there was peace in the Sliwa household. Nancy loved
- 0:13Speaker 2: it that way, and the cats loved it. But I
- 0:17Speaker 2: had to get that voice back to be here, same time,
- 0:20Speaker 2: same place as we are every Monday through Friday. You
- 0:23Speaker 2: wake up with Curtis and Larry, till it's time to
- 0:26Speaker 2: hand off the microphone to Mark Simone and I.
- 0:30Speaker 1: So I had to get my special medication.
- 0:33Speaker 3: Dr.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Lederman came through. So props, great synergy. Try doing that
- 0:39Speaker 2: on a Sunday. And we're going to try to get
- 0:40Speaker 2: him on.
- 0:41Speaker 4: Is he coming up? Natalie?
- 0:44Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to try to get him coming up
- 0:46Speaker 2: because the Pope, they've determined he has a nodule on
- 0:50Speaker 2: his lung, the American Pope. And he's going to be
- 0:53Speaker 2: going under the knife. And nobody knows more about those
- 0:56Speaker 2: kind of situations than Dr.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Gil Lederman. Yeah, we're going to have him on at 6.50,
- 0:59Speaker 1: so not far away.
- 1:02Speaker 2: So he came to my aid, and he'll give us
- 1:04Speaker 2: all the information we need to know. But today is
- 1:07Speaker 2: the big Columbus Day Parade up Fifth Avenue. Now, there
- 1:10Speaker 2: are the many, many parades in the tri-state area that
- 1:13Speaker 2: took place over this weekend. Almost everywhere where there's an
- 1:17Speaker 2: Italian-American community, they had a Christopher Columbus Parade. But the
- 1:23Speaker 2: mayor decided he wasn't going to attend any of the parades.
- 1:26Speaker 2: The one that took place in the neighborhood he lived
- 1:28Speaker 2: in for a while, Astoria.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Small parade.
- 1:31Speaker 2: But there's a statue there right before you hit the...
- 1:34Speaker 2: Triborough Bridge off the Grand Central Parkway. Back in 2020,
- 1:38Speaker 2: he took a photo in front of when he was
- 1:40Speaker 2: living there with his finger. He was giving the finger
- 1:42Speaker 2: to Christopher Columbus. I saw it, and he wanted to
- 1:44Speaker 2: get rid of that day. So he's not a real
- 1:48Speaker 2: fan of Christopher Columbus, and apparently he's not a fan
- 1:50Speaker 2: of the Italian-American community in New York. No, they didn't
- 1:53Speaker 2: vote for him. You know how he wagers things. You
- 1:55Speaker 2: voted for me, or there's some support for me, I
- 1:57Speaker 2: go to your parade. You didn't vote for me, I'm
- 2:00Speaker 2: not going to your parade.
- 2:01Speaker 1: But this one.
- 2:02Speaker 2: in particular is he was in favor of pulling that
- 2:05Speaker 2: statue down. Remember the summer of George Floyd, they were
- 2:08Speaker 2: pulling Christopher Columbus statues down everywhere. They beheaded the one
- 2:12Speaker 2: in Camden. They took down the one in Trent. They
- 2:15Speaker 2: put it in a box. Remember in South Philadelphia, you know,
- 2:18Speaker 2: they headed it like a box where you couldn't even
- 2:21Speaker 2: get into it. Yeah.
- 2:22Speaker 1: It's back. Good.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And there were other statues that were being taken down
- 2:26Speaker 2: and put into storage, but New York city, In addition
- 2:30Speaker 2: to the big one in Columbus, Serco has one in
- 2:32Speaker 2: Brooklyn outside the state Supreme Court building, the one in Astoria. Imagine,
- 2:37Speaker 2: Staten Italy, right? The most Italian of worlds. They don't
- 2:39Speaker 2: even have a statue that Christopher Columbus never had.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Didn't he get rid of Little Italy, too? I mean,
- 2:44Speaker 4: he really has something against Italian-Americans. Yeah, he said, oh,
- 2:48Speaker 4: we forgot to put it on our ethnic map.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Little Italy. Look, he just.
- 2:56Speaker 2: He don't get along with Italians, and Italians don't get
- 2:59Speaker 2: along with him.
- 2:59Speaker 4: Didn't he promise he was going to be the mayor
- 3:01Speaker 4: for all people at his big speech? He was going
- 3:04Speaker 4: to be the mayor for everybody. It didn't matter if
- 3:06Speaker 4: you voted for me or not. It doesn't seem like
- 3:08Speaker 4: he's been ruling that way.
- 3:10Speaker 2: No, but if you remember that first debate, the NBC
- 3:13Speaker 2: debate with Cuomo, me, and Mondami towards the end, Me
- 3:17Speaker 2: and Mondami got into it because I said all parades matter.
- 3:20Speaker 2: In fact, that's the lead column in today's New York
- 3:23Speaker 2: Times describing how he's not going to any of the parades,
- 3:26Speaker 2: nor festivities, is that all parades matter. When you're the mayor,
- 3:31Speaker 2: you go even if you're going to get booed. Perfect example,
- 3:34Speaker 2: Bill de Blasio, who could not hide in a parade.
- 3:37Speaker 2: He was Big Bird. Guy was too tall. When he
- 3:39Speaker 2: first went to the Italian-American parades in his first four years,
- 3:42Speaker 2: they loved him. He spoke Italian, his mother. He visited Italy.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Second four years, he got booed unmercifully in Right Felicia.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So all he would do is speedwalk.
- 3:52Speaker 2: He'd speedwalk right through the parade and wave as if,
- 3:55Speaker 2: you know, they were cheering instead of booing.
- 3:57Speaker 1: This is what you do.
- 3:57Speaker 2: As a mayor.
- 3:58Speaker 4: That's a lot of mayors across the country. A lot
- 3:59Speaker 4: of mayors do exactly that, but they don't not go.
- 4:03Speaker 4: What a little wuss.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:05Speaker 1: No, he doesn't want to go.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Instead, he did a video praising Fiorello LaGuardia, Vito Marcantonio.
- 4:11Speaker 2: He was a socialist congressman from East Harlem for many years.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But that doesn't fit the bill. You should go to
- 4:19Speaker 2: every parade. You should go to every festival you can
- 4:21Speaker 2: because that's what New York City is all about. Whether
- 4:24Speaker 2: the people like you or they don't like you, you're
- 4:26Speaker 2: the mayor.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Frank Rizzo, by the way, in Philadelphia was loved at
- 4:30Speaker 4: the Columbus Day Parade, as you can imagine. But he
- 4:33Speaker 4: was loved at all the parades because the same people
- 4:34Speaker 4: that went to Columbus Day Parade showed up at the
- 4:37Speaker 4: other parades to make sure that everybody was cheering him.
- 4:40Speaker 4: They were in the crowd actually putting the arm on
- 4:44Speaker 4: people that would dare to boo the mayor.
- 4:46Speaker 2: The only time the mayor did not march in the
- 4:50Speaker 2: parade is he wanted some members of the Sopranos with him, especially,
- 4:54Speaker 2: what was that, Melfi? You know, the female shrink.
- 4:58Speaker 5: Dr.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Melfi. He was hot to trot on her. You know,
- 5:01Speaker 1: this guy. He was always perving on women, Bloomberg, even
- 5:05Speaker 1: though he had a girlfriend, right?
- 5:07Speaker 2: I mean, he insisted that he march with members of
- 5:10Speaker 2: the Sopranos. The Italian-American coalition that sponsors Bray said, no, no, no,
- 5:15Speaker 2: because they represent organized crime. So I think he decided
- 5:18Speaker 2: to take a powder, but he was prepared to march.
- 5:20Speaker 4: He didn't march with them because he thought they were
- 5:23Speaker 4: an organized crime? That was the whole reason?
- 5:25Speaker 1: No, no.
- 5:26Speaker 2: The committee didn't want members of the Sopranos. He wanted
- 5:29Speaker 2: to be holding Melfi. He was so hot to trot,
- 5:33Speaker 2: as a lot of our listeners were when they would
- 5:34Speaker 2: watch the Sopranos. Remember the female shrink to Tony? That's
- 5:38Speaker 2: the only time I think that happened. Did every other
- 5:41Speaker 2: mayor march? I believe so, unless there was something that
- 5:45Speaker 2: they were out of town or out of the country.
- 5:47Speaker 2: I will give credit to a person I never give
- 5:49Speaker 2: credit to. Hold on to your hat. Andrew Ivelisse Cuomo.
- 5:55Speaker 2: He not only preserved the parades, he preserved the statues.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Remember the summer of 2020, George Floyd. If they weren't
- 6:02Speaker 2: attacking and desecrating the statues, they were taking the statues
- 6:06Speaker 2: down and putting them into storage. He protected all the
- 6:09Speaker 2: statues with state troopers. He said, look, this is to
- 6:12Speaker 2: preserve Italian-American traditions. And when his fellow Supreme Cuisine, de Blasio,
- 6:20Speaker 2: wouldn't allow a statue to be put up to Mother
- 6:22Speaker 2: Cabrini because she was pro-life, he took it over for
- 6:27Speaker 2: the state, put up the Mother Cabrini statue. It's right
- 6:30Speaker 2: down there, the Holocaust Museum, which is in the lower
- 6:34Speaker 2: end of Manhattan before you catch the Staten Island Ferry.
- 6:37Speaker 1: So I give props to Cuomo.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Because he said that statue represents the work of the
- 6:43Speaker 2: Italian-American peoples. And he did not vacillate. He did not hesitate.
- 6:49Speaker 2: He did not blink. He did not buck. He did
- 6:51Speaker 2: not bow. He defended the tradition of the parade and,
- 6:53Speaker 2: most importantly, the many statues.
- 6:55Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing about going back in history and
- 7:00Speaker 4: rating people or deciding on the character of people by
- 7:04Speaker 4: today's standards is ridiculous. is absolutely ridiculous. There's nobody that's pure.
- 7:10Speaker 4: When you go back just a couple hundred years, there's
- 7:13Speaker 4: nobody that's pure. None of our founding fathers are pure.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Not one of them is pure. And certainly the people
- 7:19Speaker 4: that came from Europe back in the 1600s, not one
- 7:23Speaker 4: of them is pure either. So you just can't do it.
- 7:26Speaker 4: If you want to, if you want to really besmirch somebody,
- 7:30Speaker 4: then go ahead and hold them to our standards, because
- 7:33Speaker 4: our standards are completely new, and some of them are
- 7:35Speaker 4: kind of outlandish. But That's what's happening, and it's silly.
- 7:40Speaker 4: You just can't do it. You cannot do it.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Larry, I will not besmirch Columbus. I will tell you
- 7:45Speaker 2: some of the things that I've said that has gotten
- 7:47Speaker 2: me into tremendous controversy with not only our listeners but
- 7:52Speaker 2: people in general. I said there were four ships, the Nina,
- 7:55Speaker 2: the Pinta, the Santa, and the Maria. The Maria was
- 7:58Speaker 2: sort of like when you have a train, you know,
- 8:00Speaker 2: you have a caboose at the end, and people have said,
- 8:03Speaker 2: you don't know what you're talking about. The other thing
- 8:06Speaker 2: that I've discussed is how there is this theory that
- 8:10Speaker 2: this young man, Columbus, when he was born in Genoa,
- 8:13Speaker 2: before he went sailing up to England and Ireland, because
- 8:17Speaker 2: a lot of young men started to sail at an
- 8:19Speaker 2: early age, was actually born Jewish. Oh my, oh, that
- 8:23Speaker 2: starts such a controversy. But the biggest controversy is people
- 8:30Speaker 2: don't know how the day came about. You know, if
- 8:33Speaker 2: you just say to them, How did the Columbus Day
- 8:36Speaker 2: event come about? What in history precipitated that? It was
- 8:40Speaker 2: a very dark day for Italians. In fact, those who
- 8:44Speaker 2: are knowledgeable talk about the largest mass lynching in the
- 8:48Speaker 2: history of America. Now, obviously, more African-Americans were lynched than
- 8:53Speaker 2: all others combined. But on this one day, 11 Italians
- 8:58Speaker 2: were taken out of jail after most had been acquitted.
- 9:02Speaker 2: They were accused of crime. killing the police chief in
- 9:05Speaker 2: New Orleans. And the crowd, which was made of some
- 9:09Speaker 2: very esteemed people, dragged them out, shot them, and then
- 9:13Speaker 2: hung them right in the square where the cathedral is
- 9:18Speaker 2: now before you hit the levee. It was a horrid day.
- 9:22Speaker 2: And yet a lot of people justified it. To give
- 9:24Speaker 2: you an idea, at that time, Teddy Roosevelt was representing
- 9:27Speaker 2: the United States with foreign consulates. He was having dinner
- 9:30Speaker 2: with the Italian consulate. They said, hey, what is America
- 9:34Speaker 2: going to do about this? And Teddy Roosevelt said, the
- 9:37Speaker 2: only problem I have with this gentleman, I'm going to
- 9:39Speaker 2: be very direct with you, is they didn't hang more.
- 9:42Speaker 2: And then Italy wanted to go to war. People don't
- 9:45Speaker 2: realize that. They pulled their ambassadors. They closed their consulates
- 9:49Speaker 2: over that. They were threatening war. And it was President
- 9:53Speaker 2: Benjamin Harrison who decided to cast a day for Christopher
- 9:58Speaker 2: Columbus to try to assuage everybody and say it is
- 10:02Speaker 2: to honor the work of the Italian-American people. But these
- 10:04Speaker 2: were the headlines when the 11 Italians, most were Sicilian,
- 10:09Speaker 2: were hung. The Dagos did it. Teach these people a
- 10:13Speaker 2: lesson they will not forget. We need to get rid
- 10:17Speaker 2: of all these Italians.
- 10:18Speaker 1: They're vicious. They're idle, worthless, filthy. They spread disease.
- 10:23Speaker 2: I'll give you an idea that Italians were not welcome
- 10:25Speaker 2: in a lot of parts of the United States. I
- 10:28Speaker 2: say they were the equivalent Southern Italians and Sicilians of
- 10:32Speaker 2: the way Mexicans are now. They'll do any work. A
- 10:35Speaker 2: lot of them had, they couldn't read, they couldn't write
- 10:38Speaker 2: like my grandfather, Fidelio Bianchino. But you give them a shovel,
- 10:42Speaker 2: ditch digger. Like I said, today is the anniversary of
- 10:44Speaker 2: when the Holland Tunnel was first being dug, it took
- 10:47Speaker 2: them about 10 years, a lot of people died. Most
- 10:50Speaker 2: of the workers were Italian-Americans like in a lot of
- 10:53Speaker 2: those construction sites. And even Joe DiMaggio, to give you
- 10:57Speaker 2: an idea, Joe DiMaggio, 1942, you couldn't get more popular
- 11:01Speaker 2: than Joe DiMaggio. His dad, who had been here 40 years,
- 11:06Speaker 2: was considered an enemy alien.
- 11:09Speaker 1: They took his fishing.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Boat away from him in San Francisco and he had
- 11:13Speaker 2: to report Because remember, we were at war with Benito
- 11:16Speaker 2: Mussolini in addition to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime.
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- 11:42Speaker 1: Well, how about this?
- 11:44Speaker 4: What holiday should we have?
- 11:46Speaker 1: What are we missing?
- 11:47Speaker 4: And don't forget, the best talk back of the week
- 11:49Speaker 4: takes home a C-Crane radio. Well, one of the most
- 11:55Speaker 4: volatile and popular figures of NFL football in the past
- 12:00Speaker 4: several decades has passed away. We'll talk about Mike Ditka
- 12:04Speaker 4: from the Chicago Bears, the Bears, when we come back. Plus,
- 12:07Speaker 4: a chance to see Journey at 825.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Oh, what a weekend of NFL action, and who better
- 12:24Speaker 2: than Warner Wolf to kick it off.
- 12:26Speaker 1: With the Giants game, a tie, a tie. Break it
- 12:31Speaker 1: down for us, Warner.
- 12:31Speaker 5: All right, girls, here we go. Well, I'll tell you what,
- 12:35Speaker 5: no one can accuse the Giants of being boring. Yeah.
- 12:39Speaker 5: For the third straight week, they go down to the finish.
- 12:43Speaker 5: Instead of a possible 0-3, they are 2-0 and a tie.
- 12:48Speaker 5: And what in the world was Jalen Daniels thinking? 12
- 12:52Speaker 5: seconds left in overtime. Washington has the ball second down
- 12:57Speaker 5: of the Giants 24. So obviously, he is told by
- 13:02Speaker 5: the coach to either spike the ball or throw it.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Out of bounds.
- 13:06Speaker 5: Instead, he runs around, he's tackled, time runs out before
- 13:12Speaker 5: Washington can attempt a game-winning 42-yard field goal. And he
- 13:17Speaker 5: did blame himself, Daniels, after the game. And I'll tell
- 13:22Speaker 5: you who you can't blame is Jameis Winston, who lives
- 13:25Speaker 5: for at least another week before we see Jonathan James, J.J.
- 13:30Speaker 3: McCarthy.
- 13:31Speaker 5: Winston, 326 yards passing and three touchdowns. And no interceptions. Man,
- 13:39Speaker 5: he's looking good. As far as the Jets go, you
- 13:43Speaker 5: know the old saying, I'd rather be lucky than good? Oh, man.
- 13:48Speaker 5: Without the Jets recovering of the Browns' muffed pun attempt
- 13:52Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, you know it's possible the Jets
- 13:55Speaker 5: lose 12-10 rather than winning 17-12. It's also a good
- 14:01Speaker 5: thing they were playing against the Sean Watsons. who had
- 14:05Speaker 5: just 18 completions for only 155 yards, and he was
- 14:11Speaker 5: sacked eight times by the Jets' defense. Oh, Larry, this
- 14:16Speaker 5: could be the end of your two-and-three Eagles coach, Nick Sirianni,
- 14:22Speaker 5: who with eight seconds left and a 17-16 lead, chose
- 14:26Speaker 5: to kick off long downfield rather than kick the ball
- 14:30Speaker 5: out of bounds. Instead... The Jags got a 53-yard kickoff return,
- 14:37Speaker 5: and they kicked the winning field goal 57 yards with
- 14:40Speaker 5: one second left. I think Sirianni could be gone this week.
- 14:45Speaker 1: I do, too.
- 14:46Speaker 4: And somebody said if they would have allowed the guy
- 14:49Speaker 4: to run five more yards, it would have been over.
- 14:52Speaker 1: One second left when he hit the ground. One second left.
- 14:56Speaker 5: That's right.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:57Speaker 5: By the way, you were talking about Mike.
- 15:00Speaker 2: One quick question. Back to the Giants with Cam Scataboo.
- 15:04Speaker 1: He's fumbled.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Scataboo, yeah.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Yeah, every game. You know what coaches used to make
- 15:08Speaker 2: you do if you kept fumbling? They did it to
- 15:11Speaker 2: Tiki Barber. You got to carry the football around all
- 15:14Speaker 2: week wherever you go.
- 15:16Speaker 1: All week.
- 15:17Speaker 5: Lombardi did that, too, with Green Bay and Washington. Absolutely.
- 15:22Speaker 5: By the way, when he was coach of the Redskins, Lombardi–
- 15:26Speaker 5: Larry Brown, who won the Russian title, he noticed in
- 15:30Speaker 5: practice that Brown was a second off after the snap,
- 15:36Speaker 5: and he checked his hearing, and he noticed that he
- 15:39Speaker 5: was hard of hearing, so he gave him a little
- 15:42Speaker 5: special thing in his ear.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I could use that. I could certainly use that,
- 15:47Speaker 1: Warner Wolf.
- 15:50Speaker 5: You know, you talked about Mike Ditka. who really revolutionized
- 15:55Speaker 5: the role of a tight end as a pass catcher.
- 15:58Speaker 5: Before that, the tight end was a blocker. Except there
- 16:02Speaker 5: was one guy before him, and that was John Mackey
- 16:06Speaker 5: of the Baltimore Colts. And then came Ditka, who did
- 16:10Speaker 5: the same. Hey, how about the two-faced phonies of the week?
- 16:15Speaker 5: The NFL Code Commission, who fined two Bronco players $ 15, 000 each.
- 16:22Speaker 5: for imitating a dice roll when celebrating a successful two-point conversion.
- 16:29Speaker 5: A dice roll? Who are you kidding? The NFL advertises
- 16:34Speaker 5: on gambling outlets everywhere, and they even broadcast their partners
- 16:39Speaker 5: with draft kings and fan duels. Man, talk about a
- 16:43Speaker 5: bunch of phonies. Should Aaron Boone be invited back as
- 16:47Speaker 5: Yankee manager?
- 16:48Speaker 2: No.
- 16:49Speaker 4: No.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Get him out of here.
- 16:50Speaker 3: I agree. No, get him out.
- 16:52Speaker 5: He's a robot manager. He took out his starting pitchers
- 16:56Speaker 5: way too soon all season based on analytics and pitch counts.
- 17:03Speaker 5: My estimation, he cost the Yankees at least five, six,
- 17:06Speaker 5: maybe seven games by doing that. And keep in mind,
- 17:10Speaker 5: he lost to the first place Rays by five games,
- 17:13Speaker 5: which cost them a buy and home field advantage in
- 17:16Speaker 5: the playoffs. By the way, the combined payrolls of three
- 17:20Speaker 5: of the four remaining playoff teams still alive, Brewers, Rays,
- 17:24Speaker 5: and Cleveland, they don't even come close to the Mets'
- 17:28Speaker 5: payroll of $ 358 million and the Yanks' $ 342 million. What
- 17:34Speaker 5: does that tell you?
- 17:35Speaker 4: Yeah, they're three of the lowest in the league, right?
- 17:39Speaker 4: Aren't they three of the bottom five?
- 17:41Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. So, I'll tell you, man.
- 17:45Speaker 1: That's amazing.
- 17:45Speaker 5: And... Talk about passing the buck. The woeful Mets fired
- 17:51Speaker 5: their batting practice pitcher, their quality insurance coach, and their
- 17:56Speaker 5: major league hitting coach.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Come on!
- 18:00Speaker 5: Look in the mirror! They weren't the ones who let
- 18:03Speaker 5: Pete Alonzo, Brandon Nimmo, Freddie Peralta, and Edwin Diaz go.
- 18:08Speaker 5: What a sorry organization. And the pool of the week
- 18:12Speaker 5: goes to President Trump for announcing... He would give steroid
- 18:18Speaker 5: cheater Roger Clemens the Presidential Medal of Freedom Award. Come on, Mr. President.
- 18:26Speaker 5: Why don't you also give one to Barry Bonds or
- 18:29Speaker 5: Mark McGuire or Rafael Primero? Why do you think Clemens
- 18:34Speaker 5: is not in the Hall of Fame? Because he cheated.
- 18:37Speaker 5: That's why. How many batters, I'm thinking, did Clemens make
- 18:42Speaker 5: look bad enough who were perhaps eventually sent down to
- 18:46Speaker 5: the minors or maybe had their careers ended because they
- 18:51Speaker 5: couldn't hit the cheating Clemens.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Well, you know, Warner.
- 18:55Speaker 5: You say it, Curtis.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Disgraciado.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Disgraciado.
- 18:59Speaker 2: But, you know, Manny Ramirez, who used steroids, had to
- 19:03Speaker 2: use so much estrogen to cover up the steroids when
- 19:07Speaker 2: he was a Dodger, and he wants to make a comeback.
- 19:10Speaker 5: Yeah, he does. Here he is. First of all, he
- 19:14Speaker 5: was suspended 50 games for steroid use, then 100 games.
- 19:18Speaker 5: But he abruptly retired before he faced the suspension. As
- 19:23Speaker 5: you say, he wants to return to baseball as a
- 19:26Speaker 5: hitting coach. Man, I can see it now. Romero's addressing
- 19:30Speaker 5: his new team. Gather around, fellas. Here's how you inject
- 19:35Speaker 5: the steroids in trying not to get caught.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha.
- 19:41Speaker 5: And finally, here's the stooge of the week. This goes
- 19:44Speaker 5: to New York Times writer Nicholas Kristof, whose headline said.
- 19:49Speaker 2: The U.N.
- 19:50Speaker 5: Is terrible, but we need them. Who needs them? For what?
- 19:55Speaker 2: The U.N.
- 19:56Speaker 5: Has outlived their usefulness and biased anti-Semitism decisions for years.
- 20:02Speaker 5: All they do now is take up parking spaces and
- 20:05Speaker 5: cause gridlock. If they moved out of New York, I
- 20:08Speaker 5: don't think anyone would miss them.
- 20:10Speaker 4: That'd be a celebration. Very well said. Thanks a lot,
- 20:13Speaker 4: Warner Wolf.
- 20:14Speaker 1: The conversation continues.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Curtis Lewa and Larry Mendte.
- 20:20Speaker 2: 710WOR. Ah, the news. The Pope is going to go
- 20:23Speaker 2: under the knife for surgery. He's got a nodule, I guess,
- 20:27Speaker 2: on his lung. To discuss that, it's Dr. Gil Lederman,
- 20:30Speaker 2: host of Radio Surgery New York on WOR at midnight
- 20:34Speaker 2: and on the weekends, and who wrote me a prescription
- 20:37Speaker 2: on Sunday that got my voice back or I wouldn't
- 20:40Speaker 2: be here this morning.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Doc.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
- 20:45Speaker 1: All right, so what do.
- 20:46Speaker 2: You know about the Pope's condition that has caused him
- 20:49Speaker 2: to go under the knife?
- 20:51Speaker 3: Okay, so I know what you know, what you denounce,
- 20:54Speaker 3: but I'm trying to get behind the headlines and say
- 20:56Speaker 3: why the heck Are they saying this and why the
- 20:59Speaker 3: heck would they put a man, the Pope or anybody
- 21:03Speaker 3: through surgery for a nodule in the lung? There are
- 21:06Speaker 3: certainly options and many, many people, hundreds of thousands of
- 21:09Speaker 3: people have lung cancers and lung nodules. And in this
- 21:13Speaker 3: day and age, people that come to me generally don't
- 21:16Speaker 3: want to go through surgery. They don't want to have
- 21:17Speaker 3: their lung opened up. They don't want to have part
- 21:19Speaker 3: of their lung removed. And that's what they're talking about
- 21:22Speaker 3: for Pope Leo. So there are options for someone who's
- 21:27Speaker 3: got lung cancer or a lung nodule. They didn't talk
- 21:30Speaker 3: about that, and obviously it's beyond the scope of their announcement,
- 21:33Speaker 3: but usually when a person comes here with a lung
- 21:35Speaker 3: nodule planning to have surgery, the first thing a surgeon
- 21:39Speaker 3: wants to do most commonly, not always, but most commonly
- 21:41Speaker 3: is to go in and cut out part of the
- 21:43Speaker 3: lung and put it in a box and check it pathologically.
- 21:49Speaker 3: But there's ways to see if it's cancer, first of all,
- 21:51Speaker 3: with a little needle. So most people I see would
- 21:54Speaker 3: rather have a little needle put in their lung and
- 21:57Speaker 3: know whether it's cancer or not before they have surgery.
- 22:01Speaker 3: We don't know if he had that. So he may
- 22:03Speaker 3: have already had a biopsy. Who knows? There's two ways
- 22:06Speaker 3: to get a biopsy. One is put the needle through
- 22:08Speaker 3: the skin. Another way is bronchoscopy through the airway. There's
- 22:12Speaker 3: another way for people who don't want to even do biopsies,
- 22:14Speaker 3: and there's many, many people who don't want to do
- 22:16Speaker 3: biopsies because if you do a biopsy, Like for the
- 22:19Speaker 3: Pope to do surgery, he's going to end up in
- 22:21Speaker 3: the ICU for a week. His lung will be totally collapsed.
- 22:24Speaker 3: He'll have a chest tube. It will be painful. And
- 22:27Speaker 3: he has to reinflate the lung and get the lung
- 22:29Speaker 3: back and then see what this is, unless there's been
- 22:32Speaker 3: a biopsy, unless he already knows. So there are options
- 22:36Speaker 3: for him, and we certainly hope that he would have
- 22:40Speaker 3: chosen surgery and not known about other things like radiosurgery
- 22:44Speaker 3: where you don't need cutting, you don't need bleeding. You
- 22:47Speaker 3: don't need hospitals. You don't need anesthesia. And you'd think
- 22:50Speaker 3: that someone like him would want to have an equally
- 22:52Speaker 3: effective treatment that's non-invasive, that doesn't remove part of his lung.
- 22:57Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really fascinating. That's great information. I was, while
- 23:01Speaker 4: you were talking, I looked it up too, and they
- 23:03Speaker 4: said that over half of all adults who get a
- 23:07Speaker 4: chest CT scan or x-ray, they find nodules in but
- 23:11Speaker 4: most of them don't need any operations. So from what
- 23:15Speaker 4: you just said a moment ago and that fact there,
- 23:19Speaker 4: do you believe there must be something else going on
- 23:24Speaker 4: for them.
- 23:24Speaker 3: To go in? Well, look, you never know. I see
- 23:28Speaker 3: so many patients, and if a surgeon gets their hands
- 23:31Speaker 3: on a patient, and surgeons would probably love to have
- 23:34Speaker 3: a high-profile patient like the Pope on their resume, So
- 23:39Speaker 3: it can elevate them. On the other hand, it can
- 23:41Speaker 3: go bad. He can end up with a complication or
- 23:44Speaker 3: shortness of breath or not be able to breathe well
- 23:46Speaker 3: for the rest of his life or even worse. So
- 23:49Speaker 3: sometimes cowboys are surgeons and surgeons are cowboys and they
- 23:54Speaker 3: want to get a high-profile case. If the Pope Leo
- 23:57Speaker 3: or anybody, a listener, came here, we would get tested.
- 24:01Speaker 3: We'd get cancer marker, blood test. We'd get a PET scan.
- 24:04Speaker 3: A PET scan is a non-invasive way to see if
- 24:06Speaker 3: a nodule is suspicious for cancer. So in this day
- 24:08Speaker 3: and age, there's many, many non-invasive testing that can be
- 24:12Speaker 3: done to evaluate whether it's a cancer or not. And
- 24:15Speaker 3: you're right, there's many nodules in the lung, but most
- 24:18Speaker 3: of them are not cancers. He may have had a
- 24:20Speaker 3: CT scan, let's say, six months ago or a year ago,
- 24:23Speaker 3: and it wasn't there. So if it's a new nodule,
- 24:26Speaker 3: that's different than if it's a nodule that's been there
- 24:28Speaker 3: for a long period of time. Dr.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Lederman, if any of our listeners are interested in coming
- 24:33Speaker 2: to see you for a consultation, How can they get
- 24:36Speaker 2: in touch with you? Because obviously they can hear your
- 24:40Speaker 2: radio surgery program at nights here at WOR 710 at
- 24:44Speaker 2: midnight and on the weekends. But if they'd like to
- 24:46Speaker 2: come in, how do they reach out to you?
- 24:50Speaker 3: Well, number one, they can do what you did, which
- 24:52Speaker 3: is send me an email. You can send me an
- 24:54Speaker 3: email at gil, G-I-L, at rsny.org. You did it yesterday.
- 24:59Speaker 3: As you said, I wouldn't have said anything, but you
- 25:01Speaker 3: kind of preempted me. So, Patients and listeners can do
- 25:04Speaker 3: the same thing Curtis Lewa does, gil at rsny.org. If
- 25:09Speaker 3: they don't want to do that, they can call us
- 25:11Speaker 3: at 212-CHOICES, 212-CHOICES.
- 25:16Speaker 1: All right, Dr.
- 25:16Speaker 4: Lederman, host of the Radio Surgery New York at midnight
- 25:20Speaker 4: and on the weekends and the best in the country
- 25:23Speaker 4: at it. Thank you so much, Dr.
- 25:25Speaker 3: Lederman.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Good to talk to you.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Thank you. We wish the Pope a speedy recovery and
- 25:30Speaker 3: all your listeners much good health.