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"Frozen Out" (Friday December 05 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: This is for the team across from inter agency.
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Speaker 2: On your to do list, putting the radio on is
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Speaker 2: the first thing today, Jewart.
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Speaker 3: Said, steal MEE have a day at least for work.
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Speaker 4: When the sun comes up, drops a pet of this scum.
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Speaker 5: Joe has everything, all the chooses and needs.
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Speaker 6: The one that Joe's as smile.
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Speaker 4: He on the eggs.
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Speaker 7: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to you.
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Speaker 7: On with Bob Good. Former Congressman Andy in Florida says, Hi,
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Speaker 7: and thank you for taking some time out with us, Bob.
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Speaker 7: First things coming up. So actually that's one of the
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Speaker 7: things I wanted to bring up. Bob was now here
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Speaker 7: in Waynesboro, Virginia, our flagship city. Another one of these
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Speaker 7: enemies of our enemies that we made our friend, another
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Speaker 7: one of these Operation Allies Welcome recipients, was caught sending
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Speaker 7: guns to ISIS in Afghanistan. His dad is apparently a
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Speaker 7: commander with ISIS. K there, you know what did we do?
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Speaker 4: Did you know?
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Speaker 7: First off, I'm not a big fan of the enemy
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Speaker 7: of my enemy. As my friend stuff. I understand the
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Speaker 7: need for intel and you know, and natives of a
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Speaker 7: country to help force like the United states in Afghanistan
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Speaker 7: if liberty is going to be won over, but it
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Speaker 7: doesn't look like these folks were very clearly on our
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Speaker 7: side while we were there, were we just convenient for them,
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Speaker 7: And now they're here, they're turning on killing National Guards troops.
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Speaker 7: We just had the flags flying at half stab yesterday
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Speaker 7: for the soldier that was killed, you know, and now
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Speaker 7: another one who's just arming more, you know, and killing
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Speaker 7: more people in Afghanistan with his guns.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 9: Sadly, the time will continue to reveal and expose the
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Speaker 9: harm done by the Biden administration who did not have
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Speaker 9: America First policies general generally certainly did not as it
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Speaker 9: relates to immigration, legal or illegal invasion into our country.
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Speaker 9: Are border insecurity under the administration and those who they
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Speaker 9: brought in the country from affissarial countries and poorly vetted
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Speaker 9: or unvetted individuals. People coming from countries where they don't
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Speaker 9: even have systems to where you can accurately vet even
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Speaker 9: no matter of hours that you're trying, we don't even
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Speaker 9: know who the people are. They don't have valid ideas.
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Speaker 9: These countries don't have systems where you can investigate or
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Speaker 9: vet things properly, and so only time will tell the
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Speaker 9: harm that was done by the Biden administration. We'll begin
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Speaker 9: to see some fruit of that, unfortunately, some consequence of that. Unfortunately.
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Speaker 9: But when you allow some fifteen million people, some three
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Speaker 9: million criminal god aways, and then you rush tens of
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Speaker 9: thousands of Afghanis just as an example, out of the
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Speaker 9: country in just a few hours worth of time and
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Speaker 9: bring them into our country and release them into our country,
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Speaker 9: you're going to have these.
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Speaker 8: Kinds of consequences. Unfortunately.
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Speaker 9: As fast as Tom Holman and Christy Noman President Trump
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Speaker 9: are trying to deport these folks, they can't do it
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Speaker 9: fast enough.
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Speaker 8: And it's kind of real harm.
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Speaker 9: Awaits us as a result of who binded the Democrats
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Speaker 9: light into the country of the last four years.
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Speaker 7: Last question, Bob Good, former Chair of the House Freedom
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Speaker 7: concass host of the Good for America podcast Good for
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Speaker 7: America dot Org. This kid who apparently was hiding out
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Speaker 7: with his mom in Woodbridge, Virginia. The fellow who planted
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Speaker 7: the moms at the r n C DNS or stands
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Speaker 7: accused of it.
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Speaker 10: You know.
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Speaker 7: Cash Bettel said, yeah, we just found all this stuff cool,
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Speaker 7: you know, tidying up his language. But he basically said,
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Speaker 7: we found all this stuff laying around the FBI, and
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Speaker 7: we just started vetting the information that was there. I mean,
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Speaker 7: how embarrassing is this and how obvious is it that
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Speaker 7: there was a political agenda at the Department of Justice,
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Speaker 7: if not the FBI when this this whole all of
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Speaker 7: this information was there and they couldn't find guy or
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Speaker 7: didn't even seem to bother.
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Speaker 9: Well, the incompetence of the Biden administration, the corruption of
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Speaker 9: Biden administration in terms of his Department of Injustice and
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Speaker 9: its FBI and it's under Tony General Merrit Garland just
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Speaker 9: continues to be revealed and exposed. They spent two years
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Speaker 9: on nothing but January sixth J six, all the time,
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Speaker 9: everything through Day six lens, you know, demonizing conservatives and
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Speaker 9: Trump supporters and so forth. But they weren't obviously interested
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Speaker 9: in really tracking down true, real criminals.
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Speaker 8: And here's just the latest.
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Speaker 2: Example of them.
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Speaker 7: And ironically, the same stuff they used to round up
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Speaker 7: those thousands of J six participants and take them to
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Speaker 7: jail without even a hearing, you know, talk about due process,
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Speaker 7: and did they use the same stuff Patel and the
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Speaker 7: and Bongino used the same technologies pinging cell phones and
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Speaker 7: that kind of stuff, facial recognition to find this guy.
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Speaker 7: And you know, don't tell me the tech alogy wasn't there.
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Speaker 7: It's just it's a case of them peeing on my
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Speaker 7: leg and telling me I have a bladder control problem.
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Speaker 4: Bob.
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Speaker 7: It's well, we appreciate you trying to help make sense
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Speaker 7: of it. Now, stay warm, stay dry, shovel you know,
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Speaker 7: lift your shovel with your legs and don't hurt your back,
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Speaker 7: and we'll talk to you again next week.
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Speaker 11: Thanks Jo.
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Speaker 7: Great to be with you time for our first things
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Speaker 7: this morning. And suspect, as you mentioned, who planted the
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Speaker 7: pipe bombs blocks from the US Capital at the RNC
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Speaker 7: and DNC headquarters, Brian Cole Junior of Woodbridge, was arrested
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Speaker 7: by the FBI yesterday at his mother's house, where he's
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Speaker 7: been living since then, and according to Jenine Piro, he's
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Speaker 7: had a low key kind of life. Supreme Court Thursday
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Speaker 7: paid the way for Texas to use its re drawn
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Speaker 8: I'm afraid in the Russians. I can't sleep.
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Speaker 7: I know we spend a lot of time talking about,
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Speaker 7: you know, both sides in this Russo Ukrainian war going
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Speaker 7: on now four years and the invasion and the politics
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Speaker 7: and the corruption and all of that, But I want
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Speaker 7: to talk about humanity for a little bit. Joining us
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Speaker 7: now from an organization that I would love to spend
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Speaker 7: a lot more time on talking about it is the
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Speaker 7: Slavic Gospel Association and Network of Churches in the former
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Speaker 7: Soviet Republic's Michael Johnson is the director on it. He
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Speaker 7: is on with us this morning. Michael, thank you for
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Speaker 7: joining us. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 10: Sir.
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Speaker 7: How are you doing this morning?
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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, great well to be here.
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Speaker 7: God bless you for doing what you do. I know
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Speaker 7: that the churches were a lot of the ways that
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Speaker 7: the Soviet Union was broken up from a grassroots standpoint,
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Speaker 7: and I hope the faith is still there. I know
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Speaker 7: these are passionately religious people and perhaps the biggest mistake
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Speaker 7: the Supreme Soviet ever tried to do was to quash that.
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Speaker 7: However they did it. But you are seeing something else
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Speaker 7: going on, and that's the humanitarian side of this invasion,
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Speaker 7: which I swear to goodness. Four years ago, I remember
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Speaker 7: both sides saying that they would not target critical infrastructure,
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Speaker 7: and I guess when they said that they meant that's
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Speaker 7: all they would target. Because Ukraine has been hit with
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Speaker 7: a lot of infrastructure outage, and your church is your
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Speaker 7: faith ministries are out there trying to help folks facing
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Speaker 7: rigid winters there. Tell us what's going on.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 9: With you.
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Speaker 3: It's just a constant invasion with missiles and drones and
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Speaker 3: all kinds of things. And the Russians have specifically targeted
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Speaker 3: the infrastructure in Ukraine that which has left millions of
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Speaker 3: people without heat and power in their homes, and so
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Speaker 3: the winters are pretty harsh in those countries, so a
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Speaker 3: lot of people are really suffering as a result of this.
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Speaker 3: And so as a ministry, just real quick about our
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Speaker 3: ministry itself. We were established in nineteen thirty four as
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Speaker 3: a gospel ministry or initial thrust was the distribution of
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Speaker 3: Bibles in Christian literature, and then we had a radio
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Speaker 3: Russian language radio ministries that we broadcast over shortwave radio
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Speaker 3: proclaiming the gospel. And in many ways our ministry kept
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Speaker 3: the country open to hear and respond to the gospel.
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Speaker 3: So when the wall came down, we can We partnered.
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Speaker 7: With roughly.
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Speaker 3: Six thousand Baptists evangelical churches that existed in those countries
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Speaker 3: that were persecuted for many years, but when freedom came,
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Speaker 3: they had the opportunity to push the gospel and minister
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Speaker 3: to people and you know, meet their physical and spiritual
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Speaker 3: needs as a way of opening up opportunities to lead
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Speaker 3: people to Christ.
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Speaker 7: So we go ahead, No, no, no, go ahead. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 7: I just thought Strungeah.
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Speaker 3: So our our our ministry strategy shifted, so we don't
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Speaker 3: send missionaries over there. We created infrastructure so that we
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Speaker 3: can so we can support and equip those churches to
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Speaker 3: do the work throughout their nations. And it's just a
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Speaker 3: wonderful ministry and very fruitful. So when it comes to
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Speaker 3: humanitarian aid, there's plenty of opportunities to minister to the
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Speaker 3: physical needs of the people in those countries, and those
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Speaker 3: churches you know, are motivated to do so. But so
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Speaker 3: if we can give them some resources financial help. In
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Speaker 3: this case, we have a program called Heat and Hope
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Speaker 3: where we're providing funds for the purchase of heaters and
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Speaker 3: food and blankets and so on and so forth to
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Speaker 3: meet the needs of these people in this difficult time.
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Speaker 3: And that opens up opportunities for these people to hear
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Speaker 3: and respond to the gospel. And we've seen many, many,
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Speaker 3: many people come to faith in Christ in those countries,
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Speaker 3: and then we connect them with local Baptist churches so
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Speaker 3: that they can grow in their faith.
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Speaker 7: Well and certainly that is the most important part is
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Speaker 7: is that you're there when the chips are down, and
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Speaker 7: I think that that's one of the things that I
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Speaker 7: think has always been important. The point I was going
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Speaker 7: to make is I also know somebody who goes and
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Speaker 7: has planted several Christian ministries in Cuba as well, and
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Speaker 7: this place. You know, these these governments, these authoritarian regimes
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Speaker 7: that on a surface level look like they're devoid of it.
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Speaker 7: You can't keep a good faith down, I think is
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Speaker 7: the expression and that burning desire to live free and
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Speaker 7: to follow Christ is there, whether the government allows it
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Speaker 7: or not, and often is the fulcrum of a lot
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Speaker 7: of dissent and unfortunately, I imagine a lot of arrests
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Speaker 7: as well. Before the wall fell.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still yes, yes, absolutely, and there's still a
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Speaker 3: level of opposition to the evangelical churches. But you know,
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Speaker 3: they just keep doing what God has called them to do,
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Speaker 3: and they're going to preach the Gospel, and they're going
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Speaker 3: to share Christ with their neighbors, and they're going to
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Speaker 3: meet the physical needs of these people. And basically what
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Speaker 3: the government has recognized is that these people are good people.
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Speaker 3: They're doing good work they're ministering to citizens within their countries,
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Speaker 3: and in many cases they leave them alone to do
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Speaker 3: their ministries because of that.
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Speaker 7: So I'm sure it's very perilous as well. Michael Johnson,
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Speaker 7: it's the Slavic Gospel Association. How can somebody who's hearing
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Speaker 7: us talk about it help you do this work in
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Speaker 7: Ukraine and I imagine even probably in some of the
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Speaker 7: war torn parts of Russia. Yeah, well, we have a website.
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Speaker 3: It's SGA dot org. That's SGA dot org and if
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Speaker 3: you just hits slash Heat and Hope, you know, that's
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Speaker 3: a campaign that we developed to provide you know, heaters
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Speaker 3: and food and humanitarian aid to these people that are
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Speaker 3: really struggling and waking up in the morning without being
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Speaker 3: able to heat their homes and take care of their families.
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Speaker 3: And so because of this network of churches that we have,
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Speaker 3: all the ministries and the resources go through the churches,
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Speaker 3: so they can either come to their homes and help them,
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Speaker 3: or they can invite them to the churches which have
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Speaker 3: become what we call centers of Heat and Hope. People
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Speaker 3: can come, they can get warm, they can charge their phones,
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Speaker 3: they can receive food, and they can receive the love
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Speaker 3: of Christ through these churches that are there to help
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Speaker 3: them in their time of need.
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Speaker 7: Yeah. How many folks do you have in I don't
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Speaker 7: want to say in theater. Are these are Ukrainians? They're
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Speaker 7: helping out a fellow Ukrainians. It's got to be perilous,
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Speaker 7: I'm told. Strategically, this is when a lot of the
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Speaker 7: fighting starts up again because these roads, you know, freeze over,
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Speaker 7: so now they can drive tanks on them. Are they
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Speaker 7: concerned there for a perilous reignition of more ground combat
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Speaker 7: which is going to make their work even harder.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, they're always concerned about that because it's been
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Speaker 3: going on for so long. But you know, we have
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Speaker 3: these these these folks out in far East, in the
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Speaker 3: eastern part of Ukraine. I mean, these guys walk around
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Speaker 3: with flak jackets and everything, and they go into the
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Speaker 3: war zones to meet these meet the physical and the
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Speaker 3: spiritual needs of these people in this really bad and
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Speaker 3: desperate time. So you know they, I mean, they're fearless
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Speaker 3: and so you know they're there to help them. And again,
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Speaker 24: And at this point, the supporting statement has been recorded
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30:02
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Speaker 24: exert with virtual meetings over what gets said, when and
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30:29
Speaker 24: something that needs to be continually assessed, is whether or
30:32
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30:37
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30:40
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30:44
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30:46
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30:48
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Speaker 7: Prop and talk about the EU censorship that that is
31:04
Speaker 7: that you know, this is what jd Vance was talking
31:07
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31:20
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31:26
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Speaker 24: Yeah, it is fascinating and I really think jd Vance
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31:48
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31:52
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31:55
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31:59
Speaker 24: a respect for free speech. And if you in Europe
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Speaker 24: start going all in with your leaders on censorship, things
32:06
Speaker 24: like you can't quote from the Bible, or if I
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Speaker 24: woman simply by saying a few magic words, that I
32:14
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32:21
Speaker 24: list right of the ways in which Europe England, right,
32:24
Speaker 24: they seem to have just gone all in. At least
32:26
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32:29
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32:32
Speaker 24: right now. But at present time, there's a lot of
32:37
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32:40
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32:43
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32:46
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32:48
Speaker 8: So there's real issues.
32:49
Speaker 24: I really, you know, I'm so appreciative of Vice President
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32:55
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Speaker 7: Well in what you guys are doing is free enterprise project,
33:00
Speaker 7: always have been, has been going after the corporate uh
33:03
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33:08
Speaker 7: I think disproportionate. But for now, we fight the battles
33:11
Speaker 7: where they are. And when you see something with somebody
33:13
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33:17
Speaker 7: big as Apple, while actually owns half of Apple, so
33:20
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33:24
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33:28
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33:33
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Speaker 7: and associate the way you want to associate, even digitally, right, Stefan, Exactly.
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Speaker 24: And I think one of the key issues here is that, uh,
33:44
Speaker 24: you know this phrase, I'm just asking questions, right, We're
33:48
Speaker 24: just asking questions can get abused, but there is a
33:51
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33:55
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33:57
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34:01
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34:05
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34:10
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34:11
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34:13
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34:16
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34:18
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34:23
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34:26
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34:29
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34:34
Speaker 10: We do.
34:35
Speaker 24: We dug into the underlying documents, We saw that some
34:38
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34:42
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34:47
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34:51
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35:00
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35:03
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35:06
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35:10
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35:14
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35:16
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35:31
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35:34
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35:37
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35:40
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35:43
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35:46
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35:49
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35:52
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35:55
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35:59
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36:02
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36:04
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36:06
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36:08
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36:13
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36:42
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36:47
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36:52
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36:56
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Speaker 7: We're all afraid to speak the truth.
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Speaker 7: You're ashamed to be American? Okay, DESCO, because honestly, we
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Speaker 7: with us from the National Center for Public Policy Research
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Speaker 7: heading into Microsoft's annual shareholder meeting to push them on censorship.
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Speaker 7: And I was saying when we went to the break,
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Speaker 7: Stefan that you know, it seems like they figured out
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Speaker 7: how to use our defensive free speech to create the
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Speaker 7: premise that they can then build the lattice work of
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Speaker 7: censorship outround it. It's like sending a bunch of thugs
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Speaker 7: then tell the store owners, hey, we have a camp
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Speaker 7: that you could go to where you'll be safe, or
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Speaker 7: something like that. But they really have. They've weaponized free
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Speaker 7: speech in order to make it censorship.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 24: Absolutely, And I think so much of the work that
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Speaker 24: those of us on the right need to keep doing
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Speaker 24: is exposing the ideological underbelly, because you have to give
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Speaker 24: the left tons of credit, they are very good at
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Speaker 24: cloaking themselves in language that is hard on the surface
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Speaker 24: to push back against right again, cybersecurity, inclusivity, we're against hate, right,
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Speaker 24: But when you do the work and you trace back
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Speaker 24: the underlying ideology, so you sort of do this ridiculous
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Speaker 24: as you mentioned, this ridiculous circularity where you say, well,
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Speaker 24: speech is violence, and so therefore I can kill you
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Speaker 24: because you're going to say something that will harm me. Right, Like,
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Speaker 24: this is the absurdity, the absolute just radicalism, and that
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Speaker 24: needs to get exposed over and over again because we're
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Speaker 24: living in a world now where we've got a significant
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Speaker 24: portion of the population, particularly young people, that have been
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Speaker 24: basically indoctrinated in these ways of thinking since they were
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Speaker 24: in second grade, okay, and to break through that right
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Speaker 24: to break I mean, it's funny, we have to basically
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Speaker 24: take back the whole idea of becoming woke.
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Speaker 8: Right.
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Speaker 24: People need to wake up to what is actually underlying
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Speaker 24: these ideologies. And so we are fighting these these people
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Speaker 24: who are now adults. They're now in the executive offices,
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Speaker 24: they're in hr departments, they're in you know, government, they're
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Speaker 24: making decisions, and they have this ideology such as you know, oh,
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Speaker 24: you know, racial discrimination is okay so long as it's in.
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Speaker 8: The name of anti discrimination.
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Speaker 24: You know, punching you in the face is okay because
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Speaker 24: the words you're going to say are harmful.
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's just it is.
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Speaker 24: Ultimately, we win by simply speaking the truth. But we
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Speaker 24: have to actually do it right. We can't just sort of,
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Speaker 24: you know, furl our brow and say, well, they're crazy.
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Speaker 24: It takes work to really get through to people who
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Speaker 24: have been indoctrinated in this way of thinking since they
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Speaker 24: were in second grade and win these battles of hearts
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Speaker 24: and minds, and I think you're absolutely true.
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Speaker 8: Just to put a bow on it, you're absolutely right.
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Speaker 24: You know, we live in a world now where there
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Speaker 24: will be a public square and one person will be
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Speaker 24: speaking the truth there's only male and female, and another
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Speaker 24: person will be saying a lie, which is that these
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Speaker 24: things are completely you know, sort of on a spectrum,
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Speaker 24: and you can decide whether you want to be a
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Speaker 24: male or a female. And the person that has the
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Speaker 24: threatening fines and incarceration is the one.
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Speaker 8: Speaking the truth.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 24: Truth speaking has become the you know, the sort of
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Speaker 24: the rebellious act, if you will, And so we just
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Speaker 24: have to keep showing up and keep doing that because eventually.
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Speaker 8: We do have the truth on our side.
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Speaker 7: And the corporations are a big part of this, and
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Speaker 7: that's why doing it at places like Microsoft's meeting Stefan
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Speaker 7: Who did this is so? My buddy Alan Aramofangers and
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Speaker 7: If this is so? The High Planes drifters is the
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Speaker 7: artist behind that baby It's woke outside. Andy is on
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Speaker 7: the line at four three four eight A two four
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Speaker 7: two one seven on the issue of this coal person.
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Speaker 7: Who was the person who planted the bombs outside of
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Speaker 7: the d n C and RNC headquarters? Andy, thanks for
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Speaker 7: hanging on. Uh so you had a thought about this?
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Speaker 10: Yeah?
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Speaker 11: When I went up to the summer of twenty twenty,
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Speaker 11: I had gone up there.
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Speaker 28: To take out pieces of a track I built that
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Speaker 28: were historic and the place was the Food Desert, and
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Speaker 28: so I had I was going to do some photo
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Speaker 28: journalism up there at J six and had, uh you know,
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Speaker 28: made a reservation on the.
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Speaker 23: They've took two buses.
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Speaker 11: You know, from the airport here, and turns out they
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Speaker 11: had oversold them.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 11: But one of the things that I wanted to point
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Speaker 11: point out is that you know that this is all
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Speaker 11: uniparty kind of things left versus righty versus you know
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Speaker 11: us who were just you know, the the kind of
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Speaker 11: the victims from on the sideline of all of this.
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Speaker 7: Interesting.
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Speaker 11: So I had actually gone home remembering this just like
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Speaker 11: it was four months before, not being able to find
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Speaker 11: anything to eat or drink up there, and I found
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Speaker 11: a hotel to stay inside a reservation, you know, like
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Speaker 11: and we were going to you know, party or not
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Speaker 11: part of I was going to meet up with James o'keef.
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Speaker 11: That's from kind of tying that whole thing.
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Speaker 29: And and I told him that you know that I had,
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Speaker 29: you know, they had oversold the boss right going to
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Speaker 29: meet it had fundraiser too, and I don't think ghosts
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Speaker 29: was going to be there.
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Speaker 11: He had other things that he was uncovering.
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Speaker 23: You know, he had some deep connections like inside the
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Speaker 23: CIA that were exposed in these other things that are
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Speaker 23: all you know, coming to the surface, not the Somali stuff,
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Speaker 23: but actually the Afghans stuff.
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Speaker 7: Okay, well that's a good connection in there. But you're right,
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Speaker 7: it is it is un to party because you know,
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Speaker 7: it makes both of their cases. Uh there uh, and
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Speaker 7: I think that's why you saw it.
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Speaker 10: You know.
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Speaker 7: Oh, it's in front of the Republican headquarters too. And
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Speaker 7: it wasn't necessarily to make the case that it was
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Speaker 7: a bipartisan affair, but it was the case that you know,
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Speaker 7: we this was a setup and this was designed to
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Speaker 7: make Trump look like, you know, a problem, an existential
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Speaker 7: threat to the country, and that's why we needed to
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Speaker 7: make sure he never got elected president again.
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Speaker 23: Well yeah, that's but you know he's doing good things now.
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Speaker 7: Well yeah, no, you survived proof that you can and
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Speaker 7: you just did as a herculean effort. Thank you, Andy,
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Speaker 7: I appreciate it, my friend.
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Speaker 29: I take care.
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Speaker 7: See baby, it's woke outside, yes it is.
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Speaker 9: Uh.
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Speaker 7: We will continue Saturday morning, starting at Sex until then.
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